After learning about these kinds of things ive been training to train my intuition by using those guessing games and poker and such. One thing I learned is that it isn't in the form of thoughts. It's an instinct like feeling that comes automatically. You don't do it purposefully but rather just let it happen and be very self-aware and willing to let things be without hoping for an outcome.
Regular exercise in meditation (being mentally still without falling asleep or getting restless), and concentration (maintaining ones attention on one thing uninterruptedly). It is learnable.
I'm also interested in the mechanics of the kind of choice that is happening. I have a background in academic physics and have put together an explanation of the phenomenon based on quantum theory. What Mr. Radin refers to as "real magic" is the apparent ability of consciousness to influence quantum events. To understand the relationship between quantum effects and consciousness, one must accept the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.What we experience as a singular "I" is actually a multitude of "selves" that reside in the so-called multiverse. However, this is not noticeable because the hallmark of "experience" is its singularity-we experience ourselves not as many, but as one person. This is because each "instance" of our self experiences only itself and has no access to the actual multiplicity of its being. The group of our "selves" moves together through the statistical landscape of possible quantum states described by the Schrödinger equation. Each instance has similar or even vastly different experiences. The crucial point is that no possible experience is omitted. Every possible experience is realized in an existing world. We, as observers perceiving ourselves as a singular "I," effectively take a sample from this set of existing worlds through our existence and call this our life. Up to this point, this description corresponds to established quantum theory and adds nothing to it.What Mr. Radin calls "real magic" comes into play with the mystery surrounding the question of why I experience myself as this one "I," and not as one of the others. Quantum theory makes no statement about this selection because it explicitly deals only with phenomena within the realized world. The selection by which our experience is drawn from the set of possible experiences is not part of the physical world. There is no mechanism in physical reality that describes this selection, as the selection itself is not part of physical reality. It has no explanation in the world and is therefore a mystery. The thesis behind the idea of "real magic" is that the experiencing consciousness has the means to actively choose the specific path through the space of possible quantum states because there is no physical law to which it is subject. The occurrence of this choice appears to an observer as if they are influencing an event in the world with their consciousness. However, this influence is only apparent. In reality, the choice is about which consciousness from the set of alternative worlds we experience as our current, experiencing consciousness. From the perspective of this consciousness, it appears as an influence on circumstances in the world. I feel that I can physically explain the phenomenon quite well. What's still mysterious to me is how consciousness can approach the choice of a specific path in state space. It may revolve around these: Intuition, Intention, belief, conviction, concentration, "feeling", "manifestation", visualization. It's difficult to put the finger onto something concrete.
Heard these stories almost daily. Finally on the radar. Stories taught me just how cruel and arrogant people in healthcare can be. Yet these are the people we're forced to trust with our lives. Gratitude goes out to those who humbly and genuinely take care of us to the best of their abilities.
Through focused intention and elevated emotion we are creating a gravitational relationship between ourselves and the future event. Because the future exists strickly in a probabilistic state what we are actually doing us shifting the probabilites into our favor. But focused intention and elevated emotion are the spiritual practices but action is typically required for the best results.
@@vanessac1965 _" Yes but how do we know we are not causing others to lose out or suffer through these manipulations? Then it is black magic"_ Firstly, if anyone suffers because of something you did. the main moral contention is the question of your intention. --- If your intention was to harm, then that was your intention. But say if you were a sugeon and your intention for a particular incision was to help make someone better, but they died, then your intention was still to help them. Si it's your intention which defines your conscience and whether you'll suffer. Not someone else. Secondly, you can never be the single, exclusive causal agent for the suffering of another. Why?? because youre not the only living person obviously. lol Youre not the only person having thoughts, feeligns, actions and intentions on this planet. . And thirdly, going back to your _"how do we know we are not causing others...."_ . The answer is, YOU DONT KNOW; the same way you dont know whether you're causing others to succeed in life or attain bliss and enlightenment.
_" Yes but how do we know we are not causing others to lose out or suffer through these manipulations? Then it is black magic"_ Firstly, if anyone suffers because of something you did, the main moral is to do with intention. --- If your intention was to harm, then that was your intention. But say if you were a sugeon and your intention for a particular incision was to help make someone better, but they died accidently, then your intention was still to help them. Meaning it's your intention which defines your conscience and your suffer. You create it. Secondly, you can never be the single, exclusive causal agent for the suffering of another. Why? because youre not the only living person or interactive variable in this universe, obviously. Youre not the only person creating intentions, thoughts, feeligns, and actions around here. lol And thirdly, going back to your _"how do we know we are not causing others...."_ . The answer is, you _dont_ know; the same way you dont know whether you're causing others to succeed in life or attain bliss and enlightenment.
Fascinating discussion, thank you. I have a question- have you considered working with lightworkers or energy healers? Lightworkers work to affect the physical world but we do it by working in other realms, or in the inner world (like meditators) working on an energy level to affect the physical world. I don't know if you would include Lightworkers in your definition of Magicians. There are many traditions often with quite a bit of overlap between them. Energy healers also work on energy and vibration but do so directly here in the physical realm. At least that's my understanding from my own experience. Fantastic that you're doing this work, really interesting.
This is also where I feel yoga would be an interesting area for study since yoga is about harnessing the internal and the external. In fact, yoga, means to yoke. The breath is the bridge between the internal and external worlds - the seen and the unseen. the known and the unknown.
The third option here and something which I think Mr. Radin has missed is that there is a feedback loop between the inside and the outside. Even in martial arts, the martial artist always observes his posture, his steady breathing, heartbeat, focus, determination, inner stillness, composure, self awareness, etc.
From a quantum perspective, the concepts of mediators versus "magic" in the context of intention and action effects can be interpreted through the lens of quantum mechanics, particularly when exploring phenomena like entanglement, non-locality, and observer effects. In classical physics, mediators-such as particles, forces, or fields-transmit interactions between objects. For instance, photons mediate electromagnetic forces, and gluons mediate the strong nuclear force. These mediators follow the laws of causality, working within the space-time fabric to produce observable, predictable effects. In quantum physics, however, the relationship between cause and effect is not always straightforward. Quantum entanglement suggests that two particles, once connected, can affect each other instantaneously across vast distances without any classical mediator-seeming to act almost "magically" or mysteriously. This non-local interaction defies the classical idea of direct mediation and points toward a deeper, less understood reality where intention and effect could be intricately linked. When examining intention and action effects, quantum mechanics introduces the idea that the act of observation (or the "intention" behind measurement) can collapse a quantum system into a definite state. This observer effect implies that the mere intention to observe or measure a system plays a role in determining its outcome. Some interpretations, such as the quantum mind or consciousness theories, posit that human intention might influence quantum systems in subtle ways, although this remains speculative. In comparison, "magic" in this context might represent the intuitive, non-scientific belief that intention can directly shape reality without an observable mediator, akin to how entanglement appears to defy classical notions of space and time. Quantum mechanics, while grounded in empirical science, offers strange parallels to this idea by revealing that the universe operates in ways that are not always governed by classical cause-and-effect relationships. Thus, from a quantum perspective, the distinction between mediated effects (through particles or forces) and seemingly "magical" effects (such as entanglement or observer-driven outcomes) challenges our understanding of reality. It suggests that intention, action, and effect might be more interconnected than classical physics allows, with quantum mechanics opening up new questions about the nature of causality and consciousness in shaping physical reality.
My sense is that the "now" is where everything becomes concrete, and the future is hazy within certain constraints but as yet not fully decided. You can put your mark on it, within those constraints, to *intend* it to come out a certain way. But given that there are constraints (from other people's intentions, or greater movements, or limited flexibility within the situation) you can't totally control the future. But you can attempt to direct things towards your preferred outcome, or at least negotiate a path within the constraints that is "least bad". The trouble with scientific experiments to determine whether psychic phenomena exist is that there is not just the intention of the subject, but also the intention of the scientists (for example to disprove the effect), interacting together to produce a result. You can't have just any scientist lead the experiment. It needs to be someone who is neutral about the result. Or else the experiment has to be designed in such a way that the intention of the scientists is neutralised or cancelled out, and only the intention of subject is being measured. I like the way Dean Radin is talking. Hopefully he can make some good discoveries.
I have a background in physics and have put together an explanation of the phenomenon based on quantum theory. In see no specific hurdle to physically prove the effect Mr. Radin is referring to because it is manifesting in the same way as any other measurable physical phenomenen. The main problem seems to be that most "serious" physiscist avoid the topic because they suspect that somthing "supernatural" is involved. What Dean calls "real magic" is the apparent ability of consciousness to influence quantum events. To understand the relationship between quantum effects and consciousness, one must accept the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.What we experience as a singular "I" is actually a multitude of "selves" that reside in the so-called multiverse. However, this is not noticeable because the hallmark of "experience" is its singularity-we experience ourselves not as many, but as one person. This is because each "instance" of our self experiences only itself and has no access to the actual multiplicity of its being. The group of our "selves" moves together through the statistical landscape of possible quantum states described by the Schrödinger equation. Each instance has similar or even vastly different experiences. The crucial point is that no possible experience is omitted. Every possible experience is realized in an existing world. We, as observers perceiving ourselves as a singular "I," effectively take a sample from this set of existing worlds through our existence and call this our life. Up to this point, this description corresponds to established quantum theory and adds nothing to it.What Mr. Radin calls "real magic" comes into play with the mystery surrounding the question of why I experience myself as this one "I," and not as one of the others. Quantum theory makes no statement about this selection because it explicitly deals only with phenomena within the realized world. The selection by which our experience is drawn from the set of possible experiences is not part of the physical world. There is no mechanism in physical reality that describes this selection, as the selection itself is not part of physical reality. It has no explanation in the world and is therefore a mystery. The thesis behind the idea of "real magic" is that the experiencing consciousness has the means to actively choose the specific path through the space of possible quantum states because there is no physical law to which it is subject.The occurrence of this choice appears to an observer as if they are influencing an event in the world with their consciousness. However, this influence is only apparent. In reality, the choice is about which consciousness from the set of alternative worlds we experience as our current, experiencing consciousness. From the perspective of this consciousness, it appears as an influence on circumstances in the world. I feel that I while I can physically explain the phenomenon quite well, it's still mysterious to me how consciousness can approach the choice of a specific path in state space. It may revolve around these: Intuition, Intention, belief, conviction, concentration, "feeling", "manifestation", visualization. It's difficult to put the finger onto something concrete.
The wave attaches to our observing consciousness, so we become included in the outcome and the particle component as debris moves through and presents as such.
Observation means, on the one hand, to interpret the sensory input and build a narrative, a story, but, on the other hand, a system is also "tuned", the way it functions as a frame directly influences what forms or narratives it constitutes. This "form of the form" makes "Observation" itself a conditioned coproduction. Without the need for an Observer. The Observer is part of the narrative, that consciousness tells itself.
Love your work Dr Radin. So, what do you call it when you start meditating under the stars internally and the external “lights” start interacting in the sky? Is it possible that some “observers” can collapse the wave function of things normally not seen? Thanks for the knowledge!🤙🏼✌🏼😊
@brandonb5075 Consider that our experience of an inner world and an outer world are but a trick of language causing an indoctrination about the existence of a physical universe and a non-physical mental space we call mind or consciousness that we think is located in our brain which is contained in our skull. When we take birth, we are told by the existing body of humanity who and what we are, and as we grow and develop we take our place alongside all the others who have done the same for generations before us. To enter this world is to step onto an invisible treadmill upon which rides the questions, what is a self, and who is my self? This is what underpins what we call a human life. Do you have an idea that you think of as you? In defining our selves as a separate self whose mental state is a non-physical phenomena that exists in a brain in a skull we assume the mantle of certain limitations that we will live within for the rest of our lives. This is what is called normal. What Radin refers to as "real magic" is the observation that some experiences seem to exist in spite of the limitations that existing science says are impossible to exceed. Obviously they are happening, so the implication is that science itself is deficient in its ability to ascertain what is happening with these "exceptions" to its rules. So here's my take. What if there is no actual distinction between an inner and outer reality? What if ideas of inner and outer are but characteristic *territories* or unique strata on a continuum of experience so that when you meditate on light and then open your eyes, you notice that stars have become mobile and start gliding around in the sky? Quantum Physics is telling us there is no such thing as a thing. If the universe is one complete infinite phenomena, then who are we to think that the localization of a point in consciousness we label "I" is not one with the stars and everything else that can be named? Consciousness is what gives rise to all perception and definition. There is nowhere that it is not. I'm so bold as to say, believe not what you think, but what you experience directly. The stars dance with you and for you because at essence we ARE the stars and they ARE us.
Practitioner of Buddhist based internal practice, sitting in awareness, sitting in the moment, maintaining that awareness, opening up myself to potential through internal process. Yet, I am also a practitioner of external esoteric practice. My internal practices have no doubt had a positive effect on my external esoteric practices as far as manifestation. This is subjective I understand but still my experience on this path. People comment like they know how matters of such really work but it is really all subjective in my opinion. No one know the ultimate truth.
Great work much appreciated. Actually I have never seen the results of the double slit experiment with a photon detector. I have seen the ones with interference patterns (without detectors) and I have seen simulations or actual experiments with sand or balls showing two stacks on the other side of the slots often accompanied with the commentary that it is what we should expect to see when light behaves as a particle. Do you have references to experiments we can see about my inquiry above. Thx and Namaste.
Positive Disintigration as Dubrowski proposed has great merit. Wii kill off the "I" that Wii were in the past to become the Mii with eyes that see beyond the "I" that once was me. The mystery of the short viral language of Wibblry and Wub. Why do Wii come into existence? With purpose or fate? Thank you Dean for your research.
I would be curious to know how much time is given between setting attention and result of the slit test experiment, as FMRI scans have proven that our brain makes decisions before conscious awareness of those decisions. So one could say where one ‘decides’ to place attention (observation) happens before conscious awareness of the decision and perhaps it is not us who are deciding the result by observing, but the result tells us what we have observed. The results of the FMRI scan infers that consciousness may not be happening BY us but THROUGH us. It’s like the Buddhist teachings of one is not their thoughts. Added with The split brain experiment which has proven that we hold multiple ‘modules’ of consciousness in different areas of the brain, and that we have yet to actually define what we mean by consciousness, just as we have yet to define what we mean by observation, the study may be biased in its definition of “magic” as well. I believe it was Aristotle who said "In a shorter time more will be known about the most remote world, namely that of the stars, than about the most nearby topic, namely perception."
6:52 I’m interested in learning more about this. I have relationships and interest in the internally focused world, but I am more naturally externally focused. Both have elements of developing internal, but I find it difficult to find methods to nurture/develop/expand external focused practices without paying for memberships or something, whereas natural internal focus is always accessible and free. It’s kind of bumming me out.
How about this explanation for the double slit experiment described at 4:30 min: Because you placed the photon detector behind one of the slits you blocked it and it is not a double slit experiment any more, hence the result is different from the classic double slit experiment.
In physics terms you become entangled with that system either way. You become part of the system. Then in principle you should be able to influence it, or if by some means through your consciousness you can avoid knowing the result (avoiding waveform collapse), then maybe (who knows) you can postpone the outcome becoming concrete. But whatever you do, you're still influencing it because you're part of the experimental system now.
@@richardpaschal2218 The point at which wavefunction collapse occurs is what is still under debate, and still being investigated. We suppose that consciousness (or an "observer") causes wavefunction collapse when they see either one result or the other. Yes, it's a good question whether perception (processing through the brain's visual system for example) is enough of consciousness to cause wavefunction collapse. No thought, no emotion, is pretty hard for a human. But I think as we get closer to that state in practice (e.g. walking meditation), things become weirder. It may be that there is less of the kind of "consciousness" that causes things to become definite. Orthodox physics supposes that you can't maintain uncollapsed wavefunctions when entangled with complex systems like the brain. However let's say that you can. In that case it may be that maintaining a completely still mind would allow you to maintain the result as not-yet-defined. But the moment you or another observer engage in "observation" it would become concrete. Quantum states are incredibly fragile, so this seems quite hard to pull off. But normal science has been gradually achieving entangled uncollapsed quantum states on greater and greater scales, so we don't yet know what's possible.
Many say that the “world” and everything that occurs in it arises and sets in each individual “consciousness”. It cannot be anything but subjective. Consciousness is never objective.
I'm not a scientist but I'm a deep thinker so I have a question for this very smart man,who puts the certain waves in front of us so we collapse the wave function and a car or an hoover appears, this is the big question scientists need to ask
IMO, all human minds are having a very real impact upon events all the time. For the most part, those effects are hidden from us. But the influence is real. nevertheless.
The energy takes all possible vectors, it is in interference with itself when it is acting point like. These positions are where the waves interfere. In reality, the one we don't perceive correctly, the energy takes the shape of a growing sphere. The not sphereness that we observe are a result of our own vector of perspective in spacetime. But the reality of timelessness experienced at speed c , that perspective has energy as growing bubbles that pop when they touch each other. The pop is the function collapse in that point of spacetime and is a real location.
What you flash-fractal re-cognise the inside-outside presence of omnidirectional-dimensional whole holography message, it's knowledge everywhere-when everyone has available, ..in the way Euler's e-Pi-i 1-0-infinity instantaneous Perspective observed this phenomenon, another aspect-version of QM-TIME self-defining projection-drawing is revealed.
The best way to be “pushed out” of situational awareness is to turn off the TV, turn off the “sex, drugs & rock n roll”, no “social network stuff, take care of yourself, meditate snd get back in touch with your true nature. Ayahuasca helps but at the end of the day it comes to unplugging and going barefoot.
Why would Dean want to communicate with an AI ? Dean is seeking real knowledge not information channeled from an individual imagination , see Carl Jung Active Imagination
My uninformed theory to explain quantum effects is that the quantum field is the field of thoughts. Locally perhaps one observer can effect tiny changes. For bigger effects there would need to be more minds involved. If this is true, then humans could possibly unite to fix world problems. Unfortunately it seems that one charismatic evil leader is enough to influence the entire world. Evil should not be acceptable.
I don't believe that you can effect anything in the physical world with a thought because there is no interaction between a thought and a physical object. But we may be able to choose between alternative worlds to experience. To the observing consciousness this looks like it has brought about a change.
Do you folks at the Institute want a 40-year master practitioner of the Occult? I've been traveling around the Americas for about 25 years teaching people how to tap into magick like this, and I've seen massive results everywhere I've gone.
Funny how certain numbers pop up when you stumble on these. The numbers are an interesting way to leave way markers for your students, whomever "you" are! They may merely be numbers but that logic would only dictate that a stopsign is a mere metal plate. The color we paint the metal plate is what authorizes it. (Hint: The color we charge numbers with is the organization of things in the collective/memetic dreamscape i.e. a figurative application of the splitting of light into it's rainbow of wavelengths and ultimately in following this train of thought we arive at the simulated descent of light into matter. Is it physically possible? Probably not but who knows right now. Maybe some of you but we are all students and teachers in the university of existence. Is it socially as well as mentally possible? Yes! Hint no 2 for the curious. "Color Charge" is not a misnomer and has multiple meanings. There is no coincidence it was employed as a term in quantum physics. They knew what they were doing. Let my word salad be word salad to the prideful, let it scare the superstitious and irrational and let it nourish the wise, from a martial artist and enthusiast of philosophy, thank you for such a beautiful message!)
I know what I’m going to be looking up to read tonight in bed! Thanks for the info. Human spirituality truly is the most fascinating thing I’ve encountered in my life. The most disgusting crime against humanity ever committed has been convincing the masses that we are weak, dependent, and powerless.
Without any physical interference with the photon, measurement is impossible. The claims and assumptions that a measurement could be made without any interaction are totally false.
@@JoJo-vg8dz I see your point, but the impact of a particle is of little to no use in the context of a double slit experiment. That was my point. In order, to detect a particle in the context thereof, interference is inevitable.
Wow, you are totally misinformed. In Radin’s experiments there were 2.5 to 6 sigma statistically significant variance effects with an effect size of 0.25. There is no need for measuring devices. Do your damn research before asserting your ignorance.
There must be a universal intelligence that is nonlocal. Look in the mirror. Et already phoned home. Hey, he can make bicycles fly. Maybe we are in an alien movie. It is just hard finding the allusive push rod that changes randomness.
@@fredrkoenig Never tried to persuade anybody in social media to do so. As a PRACTIONER...Know this is bunk. There is much of life designed to NEVER be understood by the flimsy human brain.
After learning about these kinds of things ive been training to train my intuition by using those guessing games and poker and such.
One thing I learned is that it isn't in the form of thoughts. It's an instinct like feeling that comes automatically. You don't do it purposefully but rather just let it happen and be very self-aware and willing to let things be without hoping for an outcome.
Regular exercise in meditation (being mentally still without falling asleep or getting restless), and concentration (maintaining ones attention on one thing uninterruptedly). It is learnable.
I feel the same. I's more your body telling you, rather than your mind. Like a gut feeling.
@@marcelamsss yep exactly. for me if i try to think or use rationality or logic i instantly lose all ability to predict or create the outcome
I'm also interested in the mechanics of the kind of choice that is happening. I have a background in academic physics and have put together an explanation of the phenomenon based on quantum theory. What Mr. Radin refers to as "real magic" is the apparent ability of consciousness to influence quantum events. To understand the relationship between quantum effects and consciousness, one must accept the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.What we experience as a singular "I" is actually a multitude of "selves" that reside in the so-called multiverse. However, this is not noticeable because the hallmark of "experience" is its singularity-we experience ourselves not as many, but as one person. This is because each "instance" of our self experiences only itself and has no access to the actual multiplicity of its being. The group of our "selves" moves together through the statistical landscape of possible quantum states described by the Schrödinger equation. Each instance has similar or even vastly different experiences. The crucial point is that no possible experience is omitted. Every possible experience is realized in an existing world. We, as observers perceiving ourselves as a singular "I," effectively take a sample from this set of existing worlds through our existence and call this our life.
Up to this point, this description corresponds to established quantum theory and adds nothing to it.What Mr. Radin calls "real magic" comes into play with the mystery surrounding the question of why I experience myself as this one "I," and not as one of the others. Quantum theory makes no statement about this selection because it explicitly deals only with phenomena within the realized world. The selection by which our experience is drawn from the set of possible experiences is not part of the physical world. There is no mechanism in physical reality that describes this selection, as the selection itself is not part of physical reality. It has no explanation in the world and is therefore a mystery.
The thesis behind the idea of "real magic" is that the experiencing consciousness has the means to actively choose the specific path through the space of possible quantum states because there is no physical law to which it is subject. The occurrence of this choice appears to an observer as if they are influencing an event in the world with their consciousness. However, this influence is only apparent. In reality, the choice is about which consciousness from the set of alternative worlds we experience as our current, experiencing consciousness. From the perspective of this consciousness, it appears as an influence on circumstances in the world.
I feel that I can physically explain the phenomenon quite well. What's still mysterious to me is how consciousness can approach the choice of a specific path in state space. It may revolve around these: Intuition, Intention, belief, conviction, concentration, "feeling", "manifestation", visualization. It's difficult to put the finger onto something concrete.
@@minimal3734You need a good reason to do magic, or it works against you.
Heard these stories almost daily. Finally on the radar. Stories taught me just how cruel and arrogant people in healthcare can be. Yet these are the people we're forced to trust with our lives. Gratitude goes out to those who humbly and genuinely take care of us to the best of their abilities.
Only trust yourself with your own life. You have to live or die with the consequences no matter who made the decision.
Go to a child's cancer ward in a hospital their youngest will see the miracle of modern medicine and you will finally grow up 5@@elinope4745
ooooh not long enough. Great, but too short for this fantastic topic. Dean Radin is the best.
Thanks for the upload. I am pleased to hear that there is research of this nature.
Cheerz!
Through focused intention and elevated emotion we are creating a gravitational relationship between ourselves and the future event. Because the future exists strickly in a probabilistic state what we are actually doing us shifting the probabilites into our favor. But focused intention and elevated emotion are the spiritual practices but action is typically required for the best results.
Yes but how do we know we are not causing others to lose out or suffer through these manipulations? Then it is black magic
@@vanessac1965 altruism and love are the most powerful imo. The ego gets in the way with Lowe emotions like greed.
@@vanessac1965 _" Yes but how do we know we are not causing others to lose out or suffer through these manipulations? Then it is black magic"_
Firstly, if anyone suffers because of something you did. the main moral contention is the question of your intention. --- If your intention was to harm, then that was your intention. But say if you were a sugeon and your intention for a particular incision was to help make someone better, but they died, then your intention was still to help them. Si it's your intention which defines your conscience and whether you'll suffer. Not someone else.
Secondly, you can never be the single, exclusive causal agent for the suffering of another. Why?? because youre not the only living person obviously. lol Youre not the only person having thoughts, feeligns, actions and intentions on this planet. .
And thirdly, going back to your _"how do we know we are not causing others...."_ . The answer is, YOU DONT KNOW; the same way you dont know whether you're causing others to succeed in life or attain bliss and enlightenment.
_" Yes but how do we know we are not causing others to lose out or suffer through these manipulations? Then it is black magic"_
Firstly, if anyone suffers because of something you did, the main moral is to do with intention. --- If your intention was to harm, then that was your intention. But say if you were a sugeon and your intention for a particular incision was to help make someone better, but they died accidently, then your intention was still to help them. Meaning it's your intention which defines your conscience and your suffer. You create it.
Secondly, you can never be the single, exclusive causal agent for the suffering of another. Why? because youre not the only living person or interactive variable in this universe, obviously. Youre not the only person creating intentions, thoughts, feeligns, and actions around here. lol
And thirdly, going back to your _"how do we know we are not causing others...."_ . The answer is, you _dont_ know; the same way you dont know whether you're causing others to succeed in life or attain bliss and enlightenment.
@@Corteum Thank you for that thoughtful, empathetic and patient response to someone who didn't think their thought through
what a reiief no music - thank you
That was great. Thank you. I appreciate what you all are doing. Looking forward to Garret's interview.
Fascinating discussion, thank you. I have a question- have you considered working with lightworkers or energy healers? Lightworkers work to affect the physical world but we do it by working in other realms, or in the inner world (like meditators) working on an energy level to affect the physical world. I don't know if you would include Lightworkers in your definition of Magicians. There are many traditions often with quite a bit of overlap between them. Energy healers also work on energy and vibration but do so directly here in the physical realm. At least that's my understanding from my own experience. Fantastic that you're doing this work, really interesting.
Outstanding. My hero.
Nuance absent
@@doctorcrafts Bluntness achieved.
This is also where I feel yoga would be an interesting area for study since yoga is about harnessing the internal and the external. In fact, yoga, means to yoke. The breath is the bridge between the internal and external worlds - the seen and the unseen. the known and the unknown.
Dean Radin's book Supernormal: Science, Yoga, and the Evidence for Extraordinary Psychic Abilities addresses this.
Very interesting to know that there is scientific research in magic
Thank you for your work.
Yes, intention absolutely affects the physical world. It does so as soon as you follow your intentions with appropriate actions.
The third option here and something which I think Mr. Radin has missed is that there is a feedback loop between the inside and the outside. Even in martial arts, the martial artist always observes his posture, his steady breathing, heartbeat, focus, determination, inner stillness, composure, self awareness, etc.
Agree. I pointed out that this is in fact what yoga means. To yoke - join together
Yes, future events can be influenced accordingly via energy of focused dynamic intent.
Such is the skill of the Shaman, Wizard, Warlock & Sorcerer.
What does that even mean? 😂 "focused dynamic intent"?
From a quantum perspective, the concepts of mediators versus "magic" in the context of intention and action effects can be interpreted through the lens of quantum mechanics, particularly when exploring phenomena like entanglement, non-locality, and observer effects.
In classical physics, mediators-such as particles, forces, or fields-transmit interactions between objects. For instance, photons mediate electromagnetic forces, and gluons mediate the strong nuclear force. These mediators follow the laws of causality, working within the space-time fabric to produce observable, predictable effects. In quantum physics, however, the relationship between cause and effect is not always straightforward. Quantum entanglement suggests that two particles, once connected, can affect each other instantaneously across vast distances without any classical mediator-seeming to act almost "magically" or mysteriously. This non-local interaction defies the classical idea of direct mediation and points toward a deeper, less understood reality where intention and effect could be intricately linked.
When examining intention and action effects, quantum mechanics introduces the idea that the act of observation (or the "intention" behind measurement) can collapse a quantum system into a definite state. This observer effect implies that the mere intention to observe or measure a system plays a role in determining its outcome. Some interpretations, such as the quantum mind or consciousness theories, posit that human intention might influence quantum systems in subtle ways, although this remains speculative.
In comparison, "magic" in this context might represent the intuitive, non-scientific belief that intention can directly shape reality without an observable mediator, akin to how entanglement appears to defy classical notions of space and time. Quantum mechanics, while grounded in empirical science, offers strange parallels to this idea by revealing that the universe operates in ways that are not always governed by classical cause-and-effect relationships.
Thus, from a quantum perspective, the distinction between mediated effects (through particles or forces) and seemingly "magical" effects (such as entanglement or observer-driven outcomes) challenges our understanding of reality. It suggests that intention, action, and effect might be more interconnected than classical physics allows, with quantum mechanics opening up new questions about the nature of causality and consciousness in shaping physical reality.
My sense is that the "now" is where everything becomes concrete, and the future is hazy within certain constraints but as yet not fully decided. You can put your mark on it, within those constraints, to *intend* it to come out a certain way. But given that there are constraints (from other people's intentions, or greater movements, or limited flexibility within the situation) you can't totally control the future. But you can attempt to direct things towards your preferred outcome, or at least negotiate a path within the constraints that is "least bad".
The trouble with scientific experiments to determine whether psychic phenomena exist is that there is not just the intention of the subject, but also the intention of the scientists (for example to disprove the effect), interacting together to produce a result. You can't have just any scientist lead the experiment. It needs to be someone who is neutral about the result. Or else the experiment has to be designed in such a way that the intention of the scientists is neutralised or cancelled out, and only the intention of subject is being measured. I like the way Dean Radin is talking. Hopefully he can make some good discoveries.
Well said
I think it’s his book SuperNormal that discusses the rigorous techniques they’ve developed to deal with that very issue.
I have a background in physics and have put together an explanation of the phenomenon based on quantum theory. In see no specific hurdle to physically prove the effect Mr. Radin is referring to because it is manifesting in the same way as any other measurable physical phenomenen. The main problem seems to be that most "serious" physiscist avoid the topic because they suspect that somthing "supernatural" is involved. What Dean calls "real magic" is the apparent ability of consciousness to influence quantum events. To understand the relationship between quantum effects and consciousness, one must accept the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.What we experience as a singular "I" is actually a multitude of "selves" that reside in the so-called multiverse. However, this is not noticeable because the hallmark of "experience" is its singularity-we experience ourselves not as many, but as one person. This is because each "instance" of our self experiences only itself and has no access to the actual multiplicity of its being. The group of our "selves" moves together through the statistical landscape of possible quantum states described by the Schrödinger equation. Each instance has similar or even vastly different experiences. The crucial point is that no possible experience is omitted. Every possible experience is realized in an existing world. We, as observers perceiving ourselves as a singular "I," effectively take a sample from this set of existing worlds through our existence and call this our life.
Up to this point, this description corresponds to established quantum theory and adds nothing to it.What Mr. Radin calls "real magic" comes into play with the mystery surrounding the question of why I experience myself as this one "I," and not as one of the others. Quantum theory makes no statement about this selection because it explicitly deals only with phenomena within the realized world. The selection by which our experience is drawn from the set of possible experiences is not part of the physical world. There is no mechanism in physical reality that describes this selection, as the selection itself is not part of physical reality. It has no explanation in the world and is therefore a mystery.
The thesis behind the idea of "real magic" is that the experiencing consciousness has the means to actively choose the specific path through the space of possible quantum states because there is no physical law to which it is subject.The occurrence of this choice appears to an observer as if they are influencing an event in the world with their consciousness. However, this influence is only apparent. In reality, the choice is about which consciousness from the set of alternative worlds we experience as our current, experiencing consciousness. From the perspective of this consciousness, it appears as an influence on circumstances in the world. I feel that I while I can physically explain the phenomenon quite well, it's still mysterious to me how consciousness can approach the choice of a specific path in state space. It may revolve around these: Intuition, Intention, belief, conviction, concentration, "feeling", "manifestation", visualization. It's difficult to put the finger onto something concrete.
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I love this content. Your work is powerful.
The wave attaches to our observing consciousness, so we become included in the outcome and the particle component as debris moves through and presents as such.
Fascinating!!
Great to see Dean again, 73 DE KL7FB
Observation means, on the one hand, to interpret the sensory input and build a narrative, a story, but, on the other hand, a system is also "tuned", the way it functions as a frame directly influences what forms or narratives it constitutes. This "form of the form" makes "Observation" itself a conditioned coproduction. Without the need for an Observer. The Observer is part of the narrative, that consciousness tells itself.
❤If we can learn to let go and trust; to not measure, the waves of light become apparent.
Love your work Dr Radin.
So, what do you call it when you start meditating under the stars internally and the external “lights” start interacting in the sky?
Is it possible that some “observers” can collapse the wave function of things normally not seen?
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@brandonb5075 Consider that our experience of an inner world and an outer world are but a trick of language causing an indoctrination about the existence of a physical universe and a non-physical mental space we call mind or consciousness that we think is located in our brain which is contained in our skull. When we take birth, we are told by the existing body of humanity who and what we are, and as we grow and develop we take our place alongside all the others who have done the same for generations before us.
To enter this world is to step onto an invisible treadmill upon which rides the questions, what is a self, and who is my self? This is what underpins what we call a human life.
Do you have an idea that you think of as you?
In defining our selves as a separate self whose mental state is a non-physical phenomena that exists in a brain in a skull we assume the mantle of certain limitations that we will live within for the rest of our lives. This is what is called normal.
What Radin refers to as "real magic" is the observation that some experiences seem to exist in spite of the limitations that existing science says are impossible to exceed. Obviously they are happening, so the implication is that science itself is deficient in its ability to ascertain what is happening with these "exceptions" to its rules.
So here's my take. What if there is no actual distinction between an inner and outer reality? What if ideas of inner and outer are but characteristic *territories* or unique strata on a continuum of experience so that when you meditate on light and then open your eyes, you notice that stars have become mobile and start gliding around in the sky?
Quantum Physics is telling us there is no such thing as a thing. If the universe is one complete infinite phenomena, then who are we to think that the localization of a point in consciousness we label "I" is not one with the stars and everything else that can be named? Consciousness is what gives rise to all perception and definition. There is nowhere that it is not.
I'm so bold as to say, believe not what you think, but what you experience directly. The stars dance with you and for you because at essence we ARE the stars and they ARE us.
When you're in combat your instincts and awareness are heightened exponentially because its about life or death.
Thank you nice and interesting topic.
Practitioner of Buddhist based internal practice, sitting in awareness, sitting in the moment, maintaining that awareness, opening up myself to potential through internal process. Yet, I am also a practitioner of external esoteric practice. My internal practices have no doubt had a positive effect on my external esoteric practices as far as manifestation. This is subjective I understand but still my experience on this path. People comment like they know how matters of such really work but it is really all subjective in my opinion. No one know the ultimate truth.
How do you Think Megalithic Stones were used? Technology went a different way.
I would like to ask Dean. Do you feel the pressure to find hopeful answers, in a world currently unsettled, and could this lead to a dystopian future.
Great work much appreciated. Actually I have never seen the results of the double slit experiment with a photon detector. I have seen the ones with interference patterns (without detectors) and I have seen simulations or actual experiments with sand or balls showing two stacks on the other side of the slots often accompanied with the commentary that it is what we should expect to see when light behaves as a particle. Do you have references to experiments we can see about my inquiry above. Thx and Namaste.
Positive Disintigration as Dubrowski proposed has great merit. Wii kill off the "I" that Wii were in the past to become the Mii with eyes that see beyond the "I" that once was me. The mystery of the short viral language of Wibblry and Wub. Why do Wii come into existence? With purpose or fate? Thank you Dean for your research.
Fascinating! Cherish every moment. Please?
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I would be curious to know how much time is given between setting attention and result of the slit test experiment, as FMRI scans have proven that our brain makes decisions before conscious awareness of those decisions. So one could say where one ‘decides’ to place attention (observation) happens before conscious awareness of the decision and perhaps it is not us who are deciding the result by observing, but the result tells us what we have observed. The results of the FMRI scan infers that consciousness may not be happening BY us but THROUGH us. It’s like the Buddhist teachings of one is not their thoughts. Added with The split brain experiment which has proven that we hold multiple ‘modules’ of consciousness in different areas of the brain, and that we have yet to actually define what we mean by consciousness, just as we have yet to define what we mean by observation, the study may be biased in its definition of “magic” as well. I believe it was Aristotle who said
"In a shorter time more will be known about the most remote world, namely that of the stars, than about the most nearby topic, namely perception."
I have so many questions about my own observations and tests..
I feel this is too short. It's an introduction. I'd like more - in depth, i.e. not more people, but longer interviews. Thank you!
6:52 I’m interested in learning more about this. I have relationships and interest in the internally focused world, but I am more naturally externally focused. Both have elements of developing internal, but I find it difficult to find methods to nurture/develop/expand external focused practices without paying for memberships or something, whereas natural internal focus is always accessible and free. It’s kind of bumming me out.
do thoughts with physical actions amplify the intentions?
How you focus your PURE intention ... please use pure intention.❤
Pure emotion, not intention. The practice is focused intention, elevated emotion
@@childofkhem1.618it's up to them what they want to express,not you, I feel you have along way to go to gain emotional maturity
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Would love to see you do this with Grandmaster Wolf.
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A Focused Intentional ...Objectivity, Projectivity, and Subjectivity ....
How about this explanation for the double slit experiment described at 4:30 min: Because you placed the photon detector behind one of the slits you blocked it and it is not a double slit experiment any more, hence the result is different from the classic double slit experiment.
Yes and have you ever heard of any other experiment that got the same result? This is the only experiment I've ever heard of.
Where is the portugal based group located please?
Question: If you observe but only with pure perception sans any thought and/or emotion, does the proton change its behavior?
In physics terms you become entangled with that system either way. You become part of the system. Then in principle you should be able to influence it, or if by some means through your consciousness you can avoid knowing the result (avoiding waveform collapse), then maybe (who knows) you can postpone the outcome becoming concrete. But whatever you do, you're still influencing it because you're part of the experimental system now.
@@uazuazu what would happen though if the observer was only pure perception? No thought. No emotion.
@@richardpaschal2218 The point at which wavefunction collapse occurs is what is still under debate, and still being investigated. We suppose that consciousness (or an "observer") causes wavefunction collapse when they see either one result or the other. Yes, it's a good question whether perception (processing through the brain's visual system for example) is enough of consciousness to cause wavefunction collapse. No thought, no emotion, is pretty hard for a human. But I think as we get closer to that state in practice (e.g. walking meditation), things become weirder. It may be that there is less of the kind of "consciousness" that causes things to become definite. Orthodox physics supposes that you can't maintain uncollapsed wavefunctions when entangled with complex systems like the brain. However let's say that you can. In that case it may be that maintaining a completely still mind would allow you to maintain the result as not-yet-defined. But the moment you or another observer engage in "observation" it would become concrete. Quantum states are incredibly fragile, so this seems quite hard to pull off. But normal science has been gradually achieving entangled uncollapsed quantum states on greater and greater scales, so we don't yet know what's possible.
Many say that the “world” and everything that occurs in it arises and sets in each individual “consciousness”. It cannot be anything but subjective. Consciousness is never objective.
I'm not a scientist but I'm a deep thinker so I have a question for this very smart man,who puts the certain waves in front of us so we collapse the wave function and a car or an hoover appears, this is the big question scientists need to ask
IMO, all human minds are having a very real impact upon events all the time. For the most part, those effects are hidden from us. But the influence is real. nevertheless.
The energy takes all possible vectors, it is in interference with itself when it is acting point like. These positions are where the waves interfere.
In reality, the one we don't perceive correctly, the energy takes the shape of a growing sphere. The not sphereness that we observe are a result of our own vector of perspective in spacetime. But the reality of timelessness experienced at speed c , that perspective has energy as growing bubbles that pop when they touch each other. The pop is the function collapse in that point of spacetime and is a real location.
Interesting
What you flash-fractal re-cognise the inside-outside presence of omnidirectional-dimensional whole holography message, it's knowledge everywhere-when everyone has available, ..in the way Euler's e-Pi-i 1-0-infinity instantaneous Perspective observed this phenomenon, another aspect-version of QM-TIME self-defining projection-drawing is revealed.
The best way to be “pushed out” of situational awareness is to turn off the TV, turn off the “sex, drugs & rock n roll”, no “social network stuff, take care of yourself, meditate snd get back in touch with your true nature. Ayahuasca helps but at the end of the day it comes to unplugging and going barefoot.
Wheeler says that "knowledge of the which way information collapses the wave function"
👉 _When_ will Dean Radin talk in depth with 'BASHAR' regarding such topics?
Why would Dean want to communicate with an AI ? Dean is seeking real knowledge not information channeled from an individual imagination , see Carl Jung Active Imagination
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What is the intention of one who sits in front of screen and ...
Why AI in the background?
"External focus".
Try having two Meisner trained actors do repetition exercises for half an hour and then test them.
If this is true, how come there are no magicians winning the lottery?
Yes we observe but who's putting the waves there in the 1st place
My uninformed theory to explain quantum effects is that the quantum field is the field of thoughts. Locally perhaps one observer can effect tiny changes. For bigger effects there would need to be more minds involved. If this is true, then humans could possibly unite to fix world problems. Unfortunately it seems that one charismatic evil leader is enough to influence the entire world. Evil should not be acceptable.
I don't believe that you can effect anything in the physical world with a thought because there is no interaction between a thought and a physical object. But we may be able to choose between alternative worlds to experience. To the observing consciousness this looks like it has brought about a change.
Do you folks at the Institute want a 40-year master practitioner of the Occult? I've been traveling around the Americas for about 25 years teaching people how to tap into magick like this, and I've seen massive results everywhere I've gone.
Im 41 and call myself THE Hermetic Master, im curious for your abilities
That's what Wheeler calls "knowledge of the which way information"
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I gotta wiggle and giggle Sigil 🥳
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i always knew dont look
I suggest the next time you perform this Sigil…use empaths who are Highly Sensitive People aka HSP.
Funny how certain numbers pop up when you stumble on these. The numbers are an interesting way to leave way markers for your students, whomever "you" are! They may merely be numbers but that logic would only dictate that a stopsign is a mere metal plate. The color we paint the metal plate is what authorizes it.
(Hint: The color we charge numbers with is the organization of things in the collective/memetic dreamscape i.e. a figurative application of the splitting of light into it's rainbow of wavelengths and ultimately in following this train of thought we arive at the simulated descent of light into matter. Is it physically possible? Probably not but who knows right now. Maybe some of you but we are all students and teachers in the university of existence. Is it socially as well as mentally possible? Yes! Hint no 2 for the curious. "Color Charge" is not a misnomer and has multiple meanings. There is no coincidence it was employed as a term in quantum physics. They knew what they were doing. Let my word salad be word salad to the prideful, let it scare the superstitious and irrational and let it nourish the wise, from a martial artist and enthusiast of philosophy, thank you for such a beautiful message!)
There's studies that have been done with empirical evidence showing that prayer can effect events of the past. Let that marinate for a minute.
It works for past present and future events
I know what I’m going to be looking up to read tonight in bed! Thanks for the info.
Human spirituality truly is the most fascinating thing I’ve encountered in my life. The most disgusting crime against humanity ever committed has been convincing the masses that we are weak, dependent, and powerless.
There are no such studies. Grow up.
The so-called study you are referring to was actually a joke in the scientific community designed to illustrate faulty thinking
Citation please?
Dean should hook up with Donald Hoffman. Dean may be measuring tweaks to the "headset", that are orchestrated by conscious agents.
Oh wow, man. Like...far out, man.
"Only through mortal combat can the fate of Earthrealm be decided."
-Raiden
I want to be an experience designer. How do I get that job?!
Esoteric eh ? So its witchcraft ?
Attention is used for hyperstition. Magick right?
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Not understanding or simply ignorant?
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Without any physical interference with the photon, measurement is impossible. The claims and assumptions that a measurement could be made without any interaction are totally false.
You can see the mark of the impact of a particle without intercepting it.
@@JoJo-vg8dz Sure but this is only possible after the impact. What if you needed to know anything about the particle before the impact?
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My point is that measurement is possible that way.
So it's not always impossible.
@@JoJo-vg8dz I see your point, but the impact of a particle is of little to no use in the context of a double slit experiment. That was my point. In order, to detect a particle in the context thereof, interference is inevitable.
Wow, you are totally misinformed. In Radin’s experiments there were 2.5 to 6 sigma statistically significant variance effects with an effect size of 0.25. There is no need for measuring devices. Do your damn research before asserting your ignorance.
There must be a universal intelligence that is nonlocal. Look in the mirror. Et already phoned home. Hey, he can make bicycles fly. Maybe we are in an alien movie. It is just hard finding the allusive push rod that changes randomness.
Your hair is glitching brother, too many double slit experiments hes disappearing 👁️😂😂😂
Dr. appears as an AI Bot and as this is a fact; trust my own judgement of this being FAKE and just more PROPAGANDA.
Whatever, you pseudoskeptic
It’s a green screen. No I don’t trust your judgment.
@@fredrkoenig Never tried to persuade anybody in social media to do so.
As a PRACTIONER...Know this is bunk. There is much of life designed to NEVER be understood by the flimsy human brain.
Dean was in the movie Down the Rabbit Hole and he said that " There is only 1 mind"..!
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