I learned a few things from you over the years. A few years ago, I was putting a baseboard trim with a nail gun, a nail went straight into a pipe behind the wall (I mean dead center into the copper pipe behind the wall), water was everywhere. Of course, I didn't call a plumber. I came here to learn how to fix it. Last month, my wife asked me to install a spigot in the garden because she was tired of dragging a heavy hose around. I came here to learn learn how to prime and cement PVC pipes. Spigot is up. She's happy. I'm proud of my work. Life is good.
I work at valley valve and pipe supply in college station. You’ve been a big help since I started working there. I know have the knowledge of the materials and the ways to use/install them. Hoping to get my plumbers license in the future
knowing how to use materials is what makes someone a pro. like using the wrong pipe to enter a septic system or a sewer and it ends up crushed 10y later, or burrs are left in at a reducer and it causes clogs. a good plumber is like a good mechanic. replacing parts isn't the job, knowing how the parts you use work and function through all it's expected range and failure range is how you be better than everyone else!
I started at Winnelson Supply house or Winsupply (as it's known now) and a master plumber I've worked for did the same in the 80s...it's not a bad place to start from if you really want to get into plumbing...you not only get to know fittings and lingo, but you get to meet the connections(plumbers) that will give you a shot to work for them...since your delivering to them everyday...infact it maybe be one of the best places to start unless you grew up mechanical, that's what alot of plumbers look for a mechanically incline farm boy lol
Hey Roger, you make some awesome videos. When I was an apprentice I was taught, in a DWV system, to have the letters facing down on the horizontal, to line the letters up (like you talked about), and on top of that to install the pipe so that the letters can be read in the direction of flow. Please, please keep the great vids coming.
I'm hoping to see more stuff like this. because i'm going through an apprenticeship, and double checking all the general skills i've learned over 5 years as a handyman. Because i'm constantly told I don't know anything. Though it's defeating to see these videos and see that i have been doing stuff right. I admit i don't know a lot of codes or very specific plumbing tasks. But even so I'm look down on, and treated like I don't know anything. When all my general skills are rock solid, I have installed showers, toilets, sinks, glued pipes, soldered pipes, snaked pipes, installed and repaired water tanks, and more. All successfully, correctly, and ina timely manner, but for some reason despite everything i was taught growing up. Skill doesn't seem to be respected in the trades, just what paperwork you have attached to you.
Amen dude I have felt the same way before. Unfortunately you just have to put time in at a place an show those mother suckers your worth something. It's bs but it is what it is
Even though I enjoy plumbing especially new construction (passing by a new house later on and knowing you had something to do with it's construction is cool) plumbers can be some of the meanest and unrelenting to work for...but I have met a couple cool as a fan master plumbers that are easy to work for....that's not always the case
I have 40+ years experience as a HVAC&R contractor we’re moving to another state they do not recognize my experience because it’s not verifiable … no papers no license 👎
@@sekseemarcuskidd And yet they'll complain they can get people to do the trade anymore. And now talking about this with others, i'm finding out so many have had same experience and it just ruined the trade for them. So a lot just go off to be handyman or do something else, because they have do that then needlessly endure the bullshit. And I get it, none of us want to work somewhere that isn't an enjoyable place. Out lives and time are always more valuable then any job.
I'm approx 30 days into my plumbing class. Flying through the nccer material so far. Learning about the triangle math involved an fitting allowance an make up an all that is really cool. I have heard before that all a plumber needs to know is cold on the right hot on the left an crap flows down hill. But there is way more to this then I ever thought.
There is...it's good to know the heavy mathematics of it, but in the field sometimes you'll be in positions where it's muddy, cramped, uncomfortable...crawling with cricket 🦗 from hell...and that math goes to the back of your mind..you now just want to use that level and tape measure and get the hell out of there...but on your own two feet on a commercial job that math could be invaluable and set you ahead of others
Roger, as much as I appreciate all your advice, the true and even more so the sad part of what is going on in the field that aren't even close to as good as you do. I have seen so many plumbing jobs done in recent years that truly look like a blind person did it. A perfect example of this was a job I happened to be on. I saw two different joints that were never even glued. I pointed it out to the supervisor on the site. I was told to mind my own business and get off his site. So many new construction projects today seem to be looking for a fast job over quality, more so the workers just don't care. All too often, fewer and fewer people care about the quality of their workmanship than ever. I see it more and more in the past few years, and it only seems to be getting worse.
I really liked that at the end you said that you do things the way you do things because you take pride in your work. I am very much the same. When I do something I want to do it correctly and to look professional. Thank you for your videos!
Awesome video! Just something to add, I usually keep a rag with me and and wipe down the pipe and fitting to make sure there is no dust dirt or grease before prime and glue. Also I’d like to hear your thoughts on time sensitivity on the primer still being wet when while you apply the cement. I’m not a fan of people pre-priming several fittings, I always tell my guys to apply the glue while the primers still wet.
Hey roger I just wanted to say that watching your videos and some others on RUclips helped me fix some serious plumbing issues in my home. Like tear down plumbing issues it was that bad. Thank you for all the work you have put out there for people like me to watch!! I feel amazing and we have saved thousands thanks to you!!!
Is their different brands that we should avoid? I heard about years ago there was a glue which was mostly water that caused plenty of leaks in the south Texas areas.
Great video. My dad always emphasized if you're going to do something, do it right, do it with pride. Watched your video because I'm about to change out a pool pump today. Watched several videos on how to do it and one thing I noticed was the pool techs in the videos were hacks! Crooked sawzall cuts, uneven, sloppy work. I can get free installation from pool parts store but I would rather do it myself, take my time and do it right. Appreciate the tips!
Check out Hercules Un-purple primer. It will show purple under a UV light. They used to send out a free mini light that I would give to inspectors because they weren’t up to date on new code approved products (shocking right)
I made the mistake of kicking one of those purple cans over, I forgot it was there getting off ladder and tripped over it... thankfully it was in a slab house and it just got the concrete purple, they hadn't laid the finished flooring thank God...but I got quite an ear full from the guy I was helping do the plumbing...he is the only one around here in KY that uses the purple stuff. ( From Chicago) but even the clear primer will mess up a finished floor it will eat and discolor it
In the 1940s - 1960s people did not have proper glue daubers that where attached to the lid so they had a paint can type can that would require a bristle brush to apply glue to the pipe and fitting.
@@dorianwhitford5607 a lot of places like New York did not use PVC or ABS till the 1980s, I am in Wisconsin and I see very old installations in my area. I also find many vintage fittings for my collection from the 1960s and early 1970s.
Is there a way to separate glued fittings and reset them in an emergency situation when you don't have additional parts? They would have to pushed on without the twist.
I started my commercial plumbing apprenticeship, and I've been doing 12" down to 3" pvc pipes, and I've been told the more primer and glue the better, lol. We get it all over the place. The master plumber I'm working with keeps telling me remember leaks are expensive, sometimes a little bit of overkill is necessary.
It depends on the kind of pipe. PVC pipe like in the video is glued together most of the time. In places like underneath sinks, there are other kinds of PVC fittings that are screwed together and sometimes contain rubber gaskets and washers. Metal pipes are usually soldered or screwed together, and pex piping has clamped fittings. It depends on the usage and if it’s meant to be taken apart again in it’s lifetime, and the risk of leaking if in enclosed spaces like within a wall or floor.
We always knock the burrs off of pvc, but when using foam core pvc we try to be very careful. We do 5psi air test, and if you scrape the pipe to much it won’t hold pressure. I would love Your thoughts on this?
Same here. On one of the initial underground test we even had to primer and glue down the gauge cuz once it reached 5 it would shoot up and out of the riser. Oh and we needed Jim caps cuz the same would happen to the wafers. That sound normal?
We used a chamfer tool at my job for plastic gas lines, but not for PVC pipe, and I guess because the tool is very expensive for what it is. I like the sandcloth method, because it looks effective and inexpensive. I will have to try that, because I hate when customers call us back to fix problems with the work we just completed.
A good chamfer tool for PVC is the Reed DEB4, it does all size pipe for residential work, the cutter that does the chamfer is tool steel and you can flip and rotate it 4 times to get tons of life out of it and it’s like $70
I’m just a 90 day apprentice so I’d like to know the difference between pvc seament and pvc cement. Follow up question; What color handle is the pipe stretcher? I’ve heard blue or green and don’t want to disappoint my supervisor when he sends me to the van looking for it
Yeah plumber play silly games like that...I got the same treatment lol, if they ask you for a tool you have never heard of don't be afraid to ask be honest lol better than spending all day in the van or truck looking for something that doesn't exist lol 🤣 plus when you ask they usually laugh it off anyway and you can join in rather than having everyone laugh at you tearing the van apart in search for a tool
I wish I had done plumbing somewhere it was cool enough to need to hold joints for 30 seconds. It was so hot where I worked 3-6 seconds and it would cure... Not the most fun and horrible when something decides to not seat correct.
I don’t put glue and cleaner past the fitting. Some do for the inspector but you can tell purple primer is there regardless. If I put primer only where the fitting goes, I have a better idea if the fitting is all the way up and if it pulls off. As for which part to glue first, that depends. If I have a loose fitting and piece of pipe, I do the fitting first so I can set it down. If the pipe is fixed then it doesn’t matter. Mainly you don’t want to put glue and cleaner on the pipe and then when time matters have to set it down where the glue doesn’t touch. As for dauber size, I used to keep pint cans when I’d do a lot of top outs because almost everything was 2” and down. However I do everything now so I keep quarts. You can get by with a fitting or two in 6” with the quart dauber but if you were doing it regularly get a gallon and a long dauber or you’ll run out fast and spend way too much time applying it.
Official challenge for Roger's next video: film the whole thing without saying "literally" or "actually." 😸 If he can do it, he'll win this gorgeous trophy! 🏆 Literally just 2 words that are not actually that important so it should literally be a piece of cake. 💁🏻♂️ You game?
Just became your 667th like on this video also I agree we appreciate you making videos like this as a homeowner and someone who does things way outside the box I greatly appreciate it. I'm dealing with sump pump issues as it is I had a rubber donut or a rubber cap that was on a Santee that is on its side which is garbage as we know I'll be changing that out too I watched one of your other videos explaining Santee and the other one I can't remember I know what it looks like and I found it on Lowe's😅 anyhow that said one line is some flexible stuff I've never seen that wasn't really buried into the ground that's kind of scary The other one is an iron pipe and that one's been there longer than I have been around I'm pretty sure it's all coming out I'm even going through the house basement wall clear everything out and do it professional Even though I'm not a plumber I must know everything about the job and do it right the first time hell I already know how to do copper plumbing in the house thanks to you and I think one other RUclipsr got2learn But in all seriousness I do love your videos you keep it interesting and it's not like some others out there that just drabble on forever it's like trying to eat ramen noodles dry and yes I've done it I'm pretty damn sure that the one line may have collapsed outside when that rubber cap came off in the house I realized that it was after that because if I had a plug from before that that thing would have never fired off and all the pressure would have probably broke the PVC
This is going to be my first time trying to DIY a PVC Pipe for swimming pool, I have 2 questions: - What if the position is impossible to give a quarter turn? - How much time do I have after applying the primer and the cement before inserting the pipe? I plan to bypass 2 pipes, one is above the other, so I'm going to use 2 elbows and 1 straight down pipe. Plan to install the 2 elbows to the straight down new pipe first, then glue both upper and lower side at the same time to the 2 pipes. That's when I can't make a quarter turn and will need some time to apply primer and cement on 2 elbows and 2 pipes. Thank you.
If you can't do a quarter turn, any amount will work...as for the amount of time, it doesn't have to be immediate, but within a minute or two after applying everything is when you need to put the two together, don't let the cement or primer go dry..
Any reason why in the USA you don't use PVC drain pipes with rubber O rings like in the EU? They're super easy to install (relatively) and they've proven to be very long lasting w/o problems.
witte pvc kun je overal kopen verschillende kleuren pvc lijm ook. zelfs blauwe pvc en blauwe lijm. enz enz. Dit paarse wat je ziet is primer. en is niet de lijm. in nederland gebruiken we geen 2 stappen lijm methode
Devil is in the details. That bit of trick of the trades is being lost. As a mechanic I can appreiciate other tradesmen who take pride in what they do. Thats what makes America great
I just use sawzall.. especially under house...I worked for a guy that used a chop saw for all cuts lol, when I first started using sawzall I got some pretty horrible cuts honestly, but enough practice makes you able to get pretty decent cuts I just keep blade straight, and twist pipe slightly halfway through
Has anyone ever heard of glue puddling? I wasn't sure if this was just something that has to be an extreme amount of glue type of situation, or if it's careless gluing. I err on the side of a little extra glue as opposed to too little, but it seems like "puddling" would require quit a bit of extra glue.
use the applicator in the can and several times around the pipe to coat all areas that will have contact. coat both the "male" and "female" of the parts to be joined with both primer and cement. Assemble and give at least 1/4 turn. Hold long enough that it doesn't try to move when you let go. (about 10 to 15 seconds) The pipe breaks before the glue = you did it right.
@@boby115 Then maybe if you are going to teach you should "if your jurisdiction requires purple primer then this is how how". But then again that must be in writing and not just because the inspector wants to see it. If you are going by the IPC then primer is not a requirement as long as your glue is a certain ASTME number. Not a good idea but not a requirement.
Where did you see that info that's kind of odd since the primer softens the PVC I tried it without primer years ago and it came a loose after a few minutes
not supposed to use pvc for drain pipe. been gluing pipe for years with an auto cutter that leaves those edges like you mentioned. never mess with them, never had a leak.
Yeah and not to mention putting tape on every pipe joint on a new construction job would take so much extra time..better off with clear primer if concerned about appearance lol 🤣 though some OG plumbers seem to not be as messy with the purple stuff
Mr Wakefield....I tried sending you pics of a square toilet...I hoped it worked. Be honest......without looking it up...within 10 seconds...can you tell what the difference is between a "stack vent" and a " vent stack"? Lol
😶 mmm...like u Roger's but I've never seen anyone go through so much effort to do a glue joint. I see 2checks being handed out with that painters tape technique. Nice presentation but I don't see this on the field.
I learned a few things from you over the years.
A few years ago, I was putting a baseboard trim with a nail gun, a nail went straight into a pipe behind the wall (I mean dead center into the copper pipe behind the wall), water was everywhere. Of course, I didn't call a plumber. I came here to learn how to fix it.
Last month, my wife asked me to install a spigot in the garden because she was tired of dragging a heavy hose around. I came here to learn learn how to prime and cement PVC pipes. Spigot is up. She's happy. I'm proud of my work. Life is good.
I work at valley valve and pipe supply in college station. You’ve been a big help since I started working there. I know have the knowledge of the materials and the ways to use/install them. Hoping to get my plumbers license in the future
knowing how to use materials is what makes someone a pro.
like using the wrong pipe to enter a septic system or a sewer and it ends up crushed 10y later, or burrs are left in at a reducer and it causes clogs.
a good plumber is like a good mechanic. replacing parts isn't the job, knowing how the parts you use work and function through all it's expected range and failure range is how you be better than everyone else!
I started at Winnelson Supply house or Winsupply (as it's known now) and a master plumber I've worked for did the same in the 80s...it's not a bad place to start from if you really want to get into plumbing...you not only get to know fittings and lingo, but you get to meet the connections(plumbers) that will give you a shot to work for them...since your delivering to them everyday...infact it maybe be one of the best places to start unless you grew up mechanical, that's what alot of plumbers look for a mechanically incline farm boy lol
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Love how much pride you take in your work!
I have never seen anybody use tape to protect the pipe from excessive primer/cement, but I like it.
It’s kinda satisfying at the end, taking the tape off…
Using lettering as a trick to line up things is a genius idea that im gonna start using. thanks for that
You bet! It looks great too, let me know how it works out for you😎
Hey Roger, you make some awesome videos. When I was an apprentice I was taught, in a DWV system, to have the letters facing down on the horizontal, to line the letters up (like you talked about), and on top of that to install the pipe so that the letters can be read in the direction of flow. Please, please keep the great vids coming.
I'm hoping to see more stuff like this. because i'm going through an apprenticeship, and double checking all the general skills i've learned over 5 years as a handyman. Because i'm constantly told I don't know anything. Though it's defeating to see these videos and see that i have been doing stuff right. I admit i don't know a lot of codes or very specific plumbing tasks. But even so I'm look down on, and treated like I don't know anything. When all my general skills are rock solid, I have installed showers, toilets, sinks, glued pipes, soldered pipes, snaked pipes, installed and repaired water tanks, and more. All successfully, correctly, and ina timely manner, but for some reason despite everything i was taught growing up. Skill doesn't seem to be respected in the trades, just what paperwork you have attached to you.
Sounds about right. Hard to find someone who will be respectful and teach you how to do the job without being a condescending a hole
Amen dude I have felt the same way before. Unfortunately you just have to put time in at a place an show those mother suckers your worth something. It's bs but it is what it is
Even though I enjoy plumbing especially new construction (passing by a new house later on and knowing you had something to do with it's construction is cool) plumbers can be some of the meanest and unrelenting to work for...but I have met a couple cool as a fan master plumbers that are easy to work for....that's not always the case
I have 40+ years experience as a HVAC&R contractor we’re moving to another state they do not recognize my experience because it’s not verifiable … no papers no license 👎
@@sekseemarcuskidd And yet they'll complain they can get people to do the trade anymore. And now talking about this with others, i'm finding out so many have had same experience and it just ruined the trade for them. So a lot just go off to be handyman or do something else, because they have do that then needlessly endure the bullshit. And I get it, none of us want to work somewhere that isn't an enjoyable place. Out lives and time are always more valuable then any job.
I'm approx 30 days into my plumbing class. Flying through the nccer material so far. Learning about the triangle math involved an fitting allowance an make up an all that is really cool. I have heard before that all a plumber needs to know is cold on the right hot on the left an crap flows down hill. But there is way more to this then I ever thought.
There is...it's good to know the heavy mathematics of it, but in the field sometimes you'll be in positions where it's muddy, cramped, uncomfortable...crawling with cricket 🦗 from hell...and that math goes to the back of your mind..you now just want to use that level and tape measure and get the hell out of there...but on your own two feet on a commercial job that math could be invaluable and set you ahead of others
Next high end pool equipment pad I install I’ll definitely use that tape trick. I hate seeing messy pipes on a nice new equipment pad.
Roger, as much as I appreciate all your advice, the true and even more so the sad part of what is going on in the field that aren't even close to as good as you do. I have seen so many plumbing jobs done in recent years that truly look like a blind person did it. A perfect example of this was a job I happened to be on. I saw two different joints that were never even glued. I pointed it out to the supervisor on the site. I was told to mind my own business and get off his site. So many new construction projects today seem to be looking for a fast job over quality, more so the workers just don't care. All too often, fewer and fewer people care about the quality of their workmanship than ever. I see it more and more in the past few years, and it only seems to be getting worse.
I really liked that at the end you said that you do things the way you do things because you take pride in your work. I am very much the same. When I do something I want to do it correctly and to look professional. Thank you for your videos!
I appreciate that!
Awesome video! Just something to add, I usually keep a rag with me and and wipe down the pipe and fitting to make sure there is no dust dirt or grease before prime and glue. Also I’d like to hear your thoughts on time sensitivity on the primer still being wet when while you apply the cement. I’m not a fan of people pre-priming several fittings, I always tell my guys to apply the glue while the primers still wet.
Hey roger I just wanted to say that watching your videos and some others on RUclips helped me fix some serious plumbing issues in my home. Like tear down plumbing issues it was that bad. Thank you for all the work you have put out there for people like me to watch!! I feel amazing and we have saved thousands thanks to you!!!
Is their different brands that we should avoid? I heard about years ago there was a glue which was mostly water that caused plenty of leaks in the south Texas areas.
That would be blue glue, stay away from that stuff, fittings come apart on their own
Great video. My dad always emphasized if you're going to do something, do it right, do it with pride. Watched your video because I'm about to change out a pool pump today. Watched several videos on how to do it and one thing I noticed was the pool techs in the videos were hacks! Crooked sawzall cuts, uneven, sloppy work. I can get free installation from pool parts store but I would rather do it myself, take my time and do it right. Appreciate the tips!
I like the clear primer, most inspectors around here don't get all worked up about it.
I use clear primer on all my repair work. You drip purple on any finished surface and it is forever purple.
Check out Hercules Un-purple primer. It will show purple under a UV light. They used to send out a free mini light that I would give to inspectors because they weren’t up to date on new code approved products (shocking right)
I made the mistake of kicking one of those purple cans over, I forgot it was there getting off ladder and tripped over it... thankfully it was in a slab house and it just got the concrete purple, they hadn't laid the finished flooring thank God...but I got quite an ear full from the guy I was helping do the plumbing...he is the only one around here in KY that uses the purple stuff. ( From Chicago) but even the clear primer will mess up a finished floor it will eat and discolor it
Okay maybe I missed it but do you let your primer dry before applying glue?? And do you apply primer twice like the can says?
Always read and follow printed directions on your products for that information. Most I have come across specify application while the primer is wet.
In the 1940s - 1960s people did not have proper glue daubers that where attached to the lid so they had a paint can type can that would require a bristle brush to apply glue to the pipe and fitting.
They didnt use plastic pipe in the 40s and 60s in my area. The earliest was 75 and it was ABS only for drains
@@dorianwhitford5607 a lot of places like New York did not use PVC or ABS till the 1980s, I am in Wisconsin and I see very old installations in my area. I also find many vintage fittings for my collection from the 1960s and early 1970s.
Is there a way to separate glued fittings and reset them in an emergency situation when you don't have additional parts? They would have to pushed on without the twist.
Can’t you buy a chamfer bit for a drill now?
Hey! A noob here. Is the cement the stuff that dissolves and fuses the PVC? Or is it the glue? Great vid!
Same thing. It's a solvent. It fuses the pipe and fitting into, essentially, one mass.
Lots of great tips for a homeowner
Glad you think so!
I always put primer in the fittings first. This way any excessive primer will run in the fittings and not along the pipe.
love your work.............hope your on other platforms........you deserve more views
4 and a half inch angle grinder works with a flap wheel 80 grit commercial plumber
I started my commercial plumbing apprenticeship, and I've been doing 12" down to 3" pvc pipes, and I've been told the more primer and glue the better, lol. We get it all over the place. The master plumber I'm working with keeps telling me remember leaks are expensive, sometimes a little bit of overkill is necessary.
Great video, but how would you make that neat connections vertically? Thank you.
Speed 😅🤣
Can you help me on the debate as to whether or not to let the primer dry before applying the cement?
Most manufacturers say to apply solvent while primer is still wet.. Weld-On solvent states this specifically..
Thank you ! People like me need a refresher course ever now and then! POMO
Excellent video! So many useful details and I like your style.
Thanks for the tips!!
I Appreciate your video, very informative! I also like the tip about the letters matching and facing up, that is Next Level Craftsmanship!!!
Do you glew every pipe together in the house ?
Or do you have other pipesystems to ?
Question from germany
It depends on the kind of pipe. PVC pipe like in the video is glued together most of the time. In places like underneath sinks, there are other kinds of PVC fittings that are screwed together and sometimes contain rubber gaskets and washers. Metal pipes are usually soldered or screwed together, and pex piping has clamped fittings. It depends on the usage and if it’s meant to be taken apart again in it’s lifetime, and the risk of leaking if in enclosed spaces like within a wall or floor.
Have you ever tested if primer actually does anything? You have that burst chamber - maybe you could test it for us?
We always knock the burrs off of pvc, but when using foam core pvc we try to be very careful. We do 5psi air test, and if you scrape the pipe to much it won’t hold pressure. I would love Your thoughts on this?
Same here. On one of the initial underground test we even had to primer and glue down the gauge cuz once it reached 5 it would shoot up and out of the riser. Oh and we needed Jim caps cuz the same would happen to the wafers. That sound normal?
Is it enough to apply only Blue cement? I see gardeners doing that a lot for irrigation systems.
For irrigation it’s not much of a big deal but for water mains you have to use primer.
Is it ok for purple primer to mix into the cement? It will get on the dauber no matter what.
is it true u dont need primer w christys?
What a hero
I did learn something today…….thanks to you. Thank you very much.
Love your videos man
How to push together fittings when there is no way for ¼ twist?
Any way to stop a small drip in a glued fitting?
'Devcon home' brand, Plastic Welder (an acrylic 'epoxy')
How long do you wait before water can be turned back on after glueing?
Depends on the glue, size of pipe and water pressure. Read the glue can a d it’ll tell you. For most cases 1 hour is fine.
I’ll be charging double if I have to put duck tape , on a 300 unit top out apt or high rise apt ,
It may be not for everyone, but can you do a video about installing a 8,10 or 12 inch fitting at worksite? I need some tips!
best advice for someone going to take tradesman exam (texas) ? What should I study the hardest And practice
very informative thank you!
You're welcome!
We used a chamfer tool at my job for plastic gas lines, but not for PVC pipe, and I guess because the tool is very expensive for what it is. I like the sandcloth method, because it looks effective and inexpensive. I will have to try that, because I hate when customers call us back to fix problems with the work we just completed.
A good chamfer tool for PVC is the Reed DEB4, it does all size pipe for residential work, the cutter that does the chamfer is tool steel and you can flip and rotate it 4 times to get tons of life out of it and it’s like $70
I’m just a 90 day apprentice so I’d like to know the difference between pvc seament and pvc cement. Follow up question; What color handle is the pipe stretcher? I’ve heard blue or green and don’t want to disappoint my supervisor when he sends me to the van looking for it
💯🤣🤣 their is no pipe stretcher it like asking your formen for level fluid cuz it's low 😂😂
Yeah plumber play silly games like that...I got the same treatment lol, if they ask you for a tool you have never heard of don't be afraid to ask be honest lol better than spending all day in the van or truck looking for something that doesn't exist lol 🤣 plus when you ask they usually laugh it off anyway and you can join in rather than having everyone laugh at you tearing the van apart in search for a tool
@@sekseemarcuskidd 😂 absolute correct 8 hrs looking for nothing 👍
@@stv1249 😭🤣🤣
I wish I had done plumbing somewhere it was cool enough to need to hold joints for 30 seconds. It was so hot where I worked 3-6 seconds and it would cure... Not the most fun and horrible when something decides to not seat correct.
How do I apply it quickly
great video, nice guy !
I don’t put glue and cleaner past the fitting. Some do for the inspector but you can tell purple primer is there regardless. If I put primer only where the fitting goes, I have a better idea if the fitting is all the way up and if it pulls off. As for which part to glue first, that depends. If I have a loose fitting and piece of pipe, I do the fitting first so I can set it down. If the pipe is fixed then it doesn’t matter. Mainly you don’t want to put glue and cleaner on the pipe and then when time matters have to set it down where the glue doesn’t touch. As for dauber size, I used to keep pint cans when I’d do a lot of top outs because almost everything was 2” and down. However I do everything now so I keep quarts. You can get by with a fitting or two in 6” with the quart dauber but if you were doing it regularly get a gallon and a long dauber or you’ll run out fast and spend way too much time applying it.
Official challenge for Roger's next video: film the whole thing without saying "literally" or "actually." 😸 If he can do it, he'll win this gorgeous trophy! 🏆 Literally just 2 words that are not actually that important so it should literally be a piece of cake. 💁🏻♂️ You game?
This actually might literally be the hardest thing ever!
@@RogerWakefield haaaa!!!!
Just became your 667th like on this video also I agree we appreciate you making videos like this as a homeowner and someone who does things way outside the box I greatly appreciate it. I'm dealing with sump pump issues as it is I had a rubber donut or a rubber cap that was on a Santee that is on its side which is garbage as we know I'll be changing that out too I watched one of your other videos explaining Santee and the other one I can't remember I know what it looks like and I found it on Lowe's😅 anyhow that said one line is some flexible stuff I've never seen that wasn't really buried into the ground that's kind of scary The other one is an iron pipe and that one's been there longer than I have been around I'm pretty sure it's all coming out I'm even going through the house basement wall clear everything out and do it professional Even though I'm not a plumber I must know everything about the job and do it right the first time hell I already know how to do copper plumbing in the house thanks to you and I think one other RUclipsr got2learn
But in all seriousness I do love your videos you keep it interesting and it's not like some others out there that just drabble on forever it's like trying to eat ramen noodles dry and yes I've done it
I'm pretty damn sure that the one line may have collapsed outside when that rubber cap came off in the house I realized that it was after that because if I had a plug from before that that thing would have never fired off and all the pressure would have probably broke the PVC
Work ethic 💯
You have managed too make the word Pipe(1 syllable) 3. I guess that's how it's pronounced in the UPC. I enjoy your videos, seriously.
pa-ah-pe but thank you for watching, seriously 😂
Thank you for your videos
This is going to be my first time trying to DIY a PVC Pipe for swimming pool, I have 2 questions:
- What if the position is impossible to give a quarter turn?
- How much time do I have after applying the primer and the cement before inserting the pipe? I plan to bypass 2 pipes, one is above the other, so I'm going to use 2 elbows and 1 straight down pipe. Plan to install the 2 elbows to the straight down new pipe first, then glue both upper and lower side at the same time to the 2 pipes. That's when I can't make a quarter turn and will need some time to apply primer and cement on 2 elbows and 2 pipes. Thank you.
If you can't do a quarter turn, any amount will work...as for the amount of time, it doesn't have to be immediate, but within a minute or two after applying everything is when you need to put the two together, don't let the cement or primer go dry..
Any reason why in the USA you don't use PVC drain pipes with rubber O rings like in the EU? They're super easy to install (relatively) and they've proven to be very long lasting w/o problems.
Expensive and in my state of Kentucky not approved for Kentucky code
The PVC pipe we use in the Netherlands is grey. The glue we use is just a transparent pvc glue, I've never seen purple glue or white pvc.
witte pvc kun je overal kopen verschillende kleuren pvc lijm ook.
zelfs blauwe pvc en blauwe lijm. enz enz.
Dit paarse wat je ziet is primer. en is niet de lijm.
in nederland gebruiken we geen 2 stappen lijm methode
Devil is in the details. That bit of trick of the trades is being lost. As a mechanic I can appreiciate other tradesmen who take pride in what they do. Thats what makes America great
Being a tradesmen is the most prideful profession...wish more people would take it seriously
How do you get a square cut on a round pipe? 🤔 😉
Mitre saw!
I just use sawzall.. especially under house...I worked for a guy that used a chop saw for all cuts lol, when I first started using sawzall I got some pretty horrible cuts honestly, but enough practice makes you able to get pretty decent cuts I just keep blade straight, and twist pipe slightly halfway through
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thanks for the pin roger
Has anyone ever heard of glue puddling?
I wasn't sure if this was just something that has to be an extreme amount of glue type of situation, or if it's careless gluing.
I err on the side of a little extra glue as opposed to too little, but it seems like "puddling" would require quit a bit of extra glue.
use the applicator in the can and several times around the pipe to coat all areas that will have contact.
coat both the "male" and "female" of the parts to be joined with both primer and cement.
Assemble and give at least 1/4 turn.
Hold long enough that it doesn't try to move when you let go. (about 10 to 15 seconds)
The pipe breaks before the glue = you did it right.
Why don't you just use clear primer? It's a lot cleaner and you can get the job done in a timely manner. or are we just going for the hourly rate?
A lot of code authorities throughout the country want to see that Color primer; They can’t prove you used it with clear..
@@boby115 Then maybe if you are going to teach you should "if your jurisdiction requires purple primer then this is how how". But then again that must be in writing and not just because the inspector wants to see it. If you are going by the IPC then primer is not a requirement as long as your glue is a certain ASTME number. Not a good idea but not a requirement.
@@jwblount7802 , You’re preaching to the choir and yes Roger should have addressed the use of clear primers in his video.
Ima move there and do plumbing Texas is the only state that gives you a clear way to do it where I’m from it’s a pain in 🐔
The Great PVC Primer Debate and engineering student did a study and found that joints made with primer failed quicker than joints made without primer.
Where did you see that info that's kind of odd since the primer softens the PVC I tried it without primer years ago and it came a loose after a few minutes
not supposed to use pvc for drain pipe. been gluing pipe for years with an auto cutter that leaves those edges like you mentioned. never mess with them, never had a leak.
Is it weird that I like the smell of the purple pvc primer? 💀 I don’t huff it obv but when my dads using It I can always smell it lol
Why do you guys use a 2 step glue instead of a one step glue like Christie's red hot blue glue?
yep, just charge more as each connection is going to take 3-5 minutes longer.
My apprentice would still find a way to drip primer down the pipe even with tape.
Yeah and not to mention putting tape on every pipe joint on a new construction job would take so much extra time..better off with clear primer if concerned about appearance lol 🤣 though some OG plumbers seem to not be as messy with the purple stuff
I always apply glue directly to the nostril but I guess everyone does it a bit different
Mr Wakefield....I tried sending you pics of a square toilet...I hoped it worked.
Be honest......without looking it up...within 10 seconds...can you tell what the difference is between a "stack vent" and a " vent stack"? Lol
Btw....I am a licensed plumber.....been a master plumber for 18+ years.....been a plumber for basically 50 years...I'm 50 years old lol
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Damn, click the like button people!!!
100% I can’t tape all my joints. I’ve been doing a lot of industrial work lately and I can’t be taping all of it
LOL !
😶 mmm...like u Roger's but I've never seen anyone go through so much effort to do a glue joint. I see 2checks being handed out with that painters tape technique. Nice presentation but I don't see this on the field.
Who cares about cutting and gluing. HAVE YOU SEEN THE COST OF IT LATELY
cant believe you would do that when doing any large plumbing jobs. yes it is a better job, is it necessary? not really.
Teach the apprentice how to use primer properly all you have to do is shake the ever living life out of it in the van 😂
A little out of focus
Lol..."it looks nice"
And NOBODY will EVER see it buried behind drywall or dirt....
Come on man you can't cut it strait with a saw! No one has time to prep the pipe like that that's not a real world application.
You’d think that but there are lots of people out there that pay a lot of money for work that is done to high standards regardless of what it is.
Great video! Thank you
Glad you liked it!