Cleared Hot Episode 45 - Jessica Lynch
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- At the age of 19 Jessica Lynch joined the Army, and just over one year later she found herself staged for the invasion of Iraq. During the initial surge towards Baghdad, her unit became separated from their convoy, and found themselves in the town of Nasiriyah. Her smaller unit was ambushed, and she became the first American POW (Prisoner of War).
As Jessica and her unit were staging for the invasion in Kuwait, my unit was in Saudi Arabia, doing the same thing. As the war began, we began working through our target deck, until actionable intelligence was received about her location. After a quick forward staging, planning, and limited rehearsal, we assaulted the hospital, and recovered her on 1 April 2003. It was the first successful of an American POW since WW2.
Jessica was immediately taken to a higher level of medical care, and slowly began her journey home to the US via Germany.
There has been much controversy over what happened during the events leading up to the rescue, and of the rescue itself. It is safe to say, in my opinion, that the military used the operation to serve their needs at the time.
I had not spoken to her until this recording, and it was great to revisit the events of 15 years ago from both sides of the same coin.
Who's here because of the Rogan Podcast?
Fr1n9e 420 here brother
Me, in Los Angeles lock down so i will be here for a while.
quarantine by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.
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Me
Me!
I heard about this from Joe and Andy and I got here as fast as I could.
Nicholas Smith sane hahaha
Yep didnt even finish the rogan podcast lol il go back to it tho
Same
Nicholas Smith
That. crazy man. You should tell everyone in the comment section....
@@rrek7 what you said is even crazier dood! Blew my mind. You should tell everyone who said that in the comment section.
Just learned a bit more about this mission from PopoMedic who just put out a piece on this. Happy to be here, and can't wait to understand the story from both sides of it. Andy, you rock for helping save her life, and Jessica, you're a beast for sticking through it. From a dumb civvy to you two, thanks for doing all you've done.
Same lol I assume you saw that one comment
@@henryschmidt485 yep! Once I did, I figured "hell, who better to hear the story from than those directly involved?!" Lol. To be fair, it was a great video, but why not get all the details?
@@CrashRacknShoot very true I feel this about popos and other ppls videos too they are super high quality with lots of great information but really are only scratching the surface of what happened
Well, that makes a few of us who saw that comment..😂..
Salute, Gentlemen..🍻🍻
Same
Andy was talking about recruiters and I've heard lots of horror stories others have had with them. My recruiter was TOTALLY honest with me. He told me "you're going to hate boot camp....you're supposed it...it sucks". He worked part time at a local bar at night. When I came home the first time after I was in, he was working one Saturday evening (at the bar). I walked in, and he had his back to the bar and a mirror in front of him. He looks up, see's me and says, "well, did I lie?". I said, No, it sucked". He gave me a beer and ordered a big burger for me and I drank free all night. We shot the shit and he gave me more advice. Cool guy, I still have the card he gave me the first time I talked to him.
TideFan Yankee boot camp sucked but I’d do it again in a minute
@@josephlynch1853 Yeah, it was sort of fun....in a sick, twisted way. LOL
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This is a great fanfic
@@damanOts If you're referring to my original post, it happened.
A SEAL, talking to a supply Specialist about a Ranger and doing so with the respect of one professional to another. Zero ego involved. If only it were always this way.
The experience I have/had is that those Tier one guys are very humble, friendly and willing to help. No ego at all. The night i decided to check out the police officer that came to call was a Ranger. He spent the next year making sure I got to my VA appointments.
@@destrocrimson That’s an awesome story brother. I hope you’ve got a really open & strong support network around you, because YOU are worth it. Thank you for your service. All the way from Australia 🇦🇺
My kid is an 11C in the Louisiana National Guard. He spent most of 2021 deployed to Syria. His unit served with some elements of MARSOC and some Rangers. He said those Operators were top notch, humble, and eager to share their knowledge and experiences with the Guardsmen. The Marines trained him up so that he could run an entire section of mortars, also they drilled our soldiers on urban combat and all kinds of other tactics. They were eager AF to work with our soldiers to make them better, more effective warriors.
@@destrocrimson My son says the same thing about those guys. See my comments below.
Not just any SEAL, but a DEVGRU gold squadron operator
Joe Rogan introduces me to the most interesting people I’ve never met.
Meow he said never bro
Jessica Lynch is not the most interesting person you have ever met! lmfao
Agreed!
Me too bro
That tends to happen when you don't do anything with your life
Thank you for being on the JRE show cause it got me here to your show and I’m pumped what an awesome show and thank you so much for your service. Really appreciate my simple life and love what you guys do
I also just got here from JRE. Thank you so much for your service. I have a good life and enjoy my civil liberties thanks to the men and women like yourselves!!
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I found Cameron Hanes from JRE, was browsing his stuff and then just found this podcast, then found Andy on JRE lol
I just wanted to thank Jessica for not letting Barbra Walters interview alter the truth .... respect !
Jessica, I was in 5/52 with one of the advance teams. We were moving so fast that by the time we reached the AP west of Nasiriyah it was just my team and two APCs from 3rd ID. We were all by ourselves for two days before anyone else from the battalion showed, let alone our battery. The one thing I remember hearing LTC Fischetti say before we crossed the berm was something to the effect of "If anyone gets stuck or breaks down, they're on their own because they didn't do proper maintenance on their equipment." It was a damn mess, and he had no idea how different that place was going to be from Ft Bliss. We had a dozen people MIA from the AP all the way to our objective outside Baghdad. We didn't even know about what happened to you and your unit until we'd set up in Karbala. It tore us up. One of my friends was extremely close to Piestewa, and Edgar had been in our battery all the way up until we deployed. That worthless colonel from 31st didn't do us any favors either, when we got to the airport in Baghdad she told us everyone from 507th who had been captured had been executed. We didn't find out the truth until we read it in Stars & Stripes. I haven't seen you since probably a week before we left Ft Bliss but I want you to know that I am so glad that you pulled through that nightmare. I try to inform people about the actions of Sgt Walters and PFC Miller, and how they saved the lives of the others who had been captured. Always remember that we love you.
Were you a red leg? Noticed you mentioned being part of a battery.
Attn: John Dorey...I am seeking to learn about the actions of Sgt Don Walters. I know he was later awarded a silver star, but I’d like to hear about him. I live where he went to high school, and where he joined the Army, Salem, Oregon. I worked here both at the time of his first combat experience in the 1990 Gulf War, then the 2003 invasion of Iraq. I’d like to learn about Sgt. Walters, and I like to learn what others can remember...
@@TruTube.1. the fact that you’re willing to tell someone who is sharing a life and death traumatic event from their life, that you’re laughing your smelly, ignorant, dumb ass off at them says one thing about you...you’re worthless and as empty minded as the democrat party!
Can you inform us about the actions of Sgt Walters?
@@roymoore3156His brother posted a comment and was replying to ppl in the comment section of the last video I was watching before I ended up here. It was a video from about a month ago about this story on a channel called "David Hookstead". It was one of the top comments you should see it, he talks about his brother.
Stumpf: “I had a small role in this operation.
Lynch: “But u were there.
Stumpf: You’re welcome.
Hilarious 😂
I found the Spotify, I am now following him.
You probably didn't realize it, but you left out where Lynch told him "Thank you" right after saying "But you were *there*". Just the love and devotion that they have for one another as fellow soldiers; it is amazing and quite frankly a privilege for "us" to be let in to this conversation and get to experience the sincerity of the gratitude she feels toward him for the role that he played. She knows that when he [and the rest of that element] got the call, they were locked in and willing to do their very best to ensure that she got to come home. My hat is off to these two soldiers, and everyone else who was involved in the op. The bureaucracy in DC sadly is also present in the Defense Department. That should never be the case.
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Route Clearance veteran here. You got me thinking back to pre-mission checks before going out and using the mine sweeper to look for IEDs and I was terrified for months until I decided that I was going to die out there. I accepted it like it was going to bring me relief from some overwhelming stress. After that things became much easier. However that change in thought process was what made reintegration back home difficult.
i really appreciate how she didnt give in to the bullshit propaganda that the army attempted to sell about her and she just told the truth. i have a lot of respect for her because of that.
its the media and the army was complicit, fuck the media
I’m glad to finally find this podcast, I was in the same unit as Jessica and in the same convoy. My job was a mechanic and I stopped to fix a broken down vehicle right before entering into town. Afterword we found out what happened and was so relieved when we found out she was rescued. After when we got home we talked a little while during a ceremony, and have not tried to catch up after the military. I’m glad she is doing good after all this.
I was the Commissioning Authority and Cx agent for the National Intrepid Center of Excellence. I did all of the Electrical, Mechanical and Plumbing commissioning and final acceptance for that facility. It made my day to hear that Andy Stumpf was treated there. It was even better to here what good work they are doing for our armed services!
I kinda feel like Joe Rogan told me where to find gold with this one!!
Special Forces be it Seals or the British SAS the guys are such nice people, hard as nails though. Andy is a credit to the service.
A lot of people who got their ass really kicked become very good people. Not always though..
Not all friend, Damn Few
@@LivingtheHumanExperience You know plenty of them then huh
See Andy’s joe Rogan podcast.. his best friends and most mortal enemies were seals... his honor man was a serial killer who’s in prison now...
@@TWN321 Name of the serial killer?
Thanks, Andy, this was therapeutic for me... and hearing Jessica's voice so full of sunshine was AWESOME! I served in the Infantry back in the 80's and remember how "cheated" I felt about not being able to go into Iran when they had taken our 52 hostages because Reagan was sworn-in and the Iranians had the hostages on the first flight out of Tehran to Weisbaden as Reagan was taking his oath of office. I was in Germany, on alert and ready to go, and was PISSED that I got cheated out of putting my training to use. I fought a medical board while at Walter-Reed just to finish my hitch without a medical discharge, and then I immediately missed Panama and Grenada, and I was pissed at the U.S. Army for a LONG time about all that.
Now I have two sons serving, one in SOCOM and one in the Infantry, and I always wonder if I had romanticized my service too much and inadvertently provoked some sense of gung-ho heroism in them... and I worry about shit like friendly-fire all the time. I am extremely proud of them and they're as smart as they are brave, but it's not just pride I feel - it's a mixed bag of negative shit too. Anyway, I enjoyed this interview with Jessica immensely and I want to thank both of you for your service, and especially Jessica for SOUNDING as bright & sunny as her smile... some guy got really lucky to win her heart. Thank you both for sharing, it's really quite healing for my darker ghosts.
Thank you and your children for your service!
I am from her hometown, was like 5 or so when the homecoming happened. I remember a decent amount of it only because of how big of a deal it was for our community. have always heard people's "insider knowledge" about the events but never had the opportunity to hear her talk about it herself. Very excited when I heard you interviewed her. Thank you!
I pray you honor her well. God bless!
Andy, I was a C-5 Loadmaster and flew an element of the 160th SOAR into ArAr just before the war started.
This was a really insightful podcast for a civilian like me. I can't even imagine what our troops have to go through and deal with mentally and physically. Have so much respect for our brothers and sisters in arms
Wow you seals and SF are some absolutley badasses. Thanx for your service and selfless sacrifice.
I guess because I'm over 40 I remember this story very well. High quality interview Andy. Unbelievable that you were able to reconnect with her all these years later and share your stories of the event.
What an inspirational person. I don’t think I could go thru that and be anywhere near as gracious as ms lynch. I have complete respect for her
Man, my E.A.S was in October of 2002. I remember when this happened. I came here from listening to you on Rogan. Thank you both for serving. Semper fi.
I wish you'd have video. It doesn't have to be great quality, you don't need a studio with a tricaster and all that, but it would be so much nicer to also watch something in addition to listening.
El Bill Burrito your name and profile pic made me laugh out loud, fuck you and have a nice day.
Hah bill burr.
It's nice to listen to at work.
Agree but jo rogan often states the majority of his listeners are audio only. I think the majority of podcast listeners are audio.
@@LP3me then there's no reason not to have both, that way people can watch it if that's how they like it and if not then they can opt out of the video and just listen to the audio.
Listening to this podcast and then going to see the video of Jessica being rescued brought me to tears. We are so lucky to have a volunteer army that is willing to sacrifice everything for our freedom. Thank you Jessica and Andy for your service!
Agreed. Now if we only had political leaders deserving of this same level of respect.
Our "freedom?"
You have no freedom sucks to be you
I was in basic training when 9/11 happened. I didn't even think it was real when they first told us outside. At first I was thinking this was some training exercise, and it was a really twisted way of creating one. They took us inside and had us sit down in one of the classrooms. Once they turned on the news, that is when it really hit me that this was not a drill. Spent the next six years between home station and deployed over seas every winter launching jets to support the war. Totally agree on the family you build in the military. Totally different bond than what you have in the civilian world. My most memorable night was the day Bush declared war. Standing out there on the flightline in the desert as the sun set on the horizon. Pretty much every bomber we had fully loaded took off with barely any problems. It was surreal. Shift was over so after they all took off some of us headed to the beer tent watching as the bombs began to drop.
Married to a psychologist now and that was interesting hearing the discussion on PSD from your point of view.
During BASIC in '96 they told us we'd just went to war with North Korea, so I can totally understand why you'd think that your sergeants weren't being serious about 9/11 being real at first.
I was in knox scout osut, i think it was January or February 2001. Drill says we bombed the shit out of iraq or Baghdad get ready to go to war. Funny how 2 years later we were there……….. So what did we bomb that night in ‘01 pre 9/11 ???
@@Quesoverga 🤔 interesting
Great conversation! Fantastic guest and amazing two way perspective of such a personal and historical event. Thank you Mrs Lynch for sharing. And thank you Andy for seeking her out.
Yes, Joe R brought me here as well: a great follow up to Joe's podcast - these two are amazing for completely different reasons: thank goodness for people like them
I was in the Army and in Nasiriyah, Iraq when this went down. I'm thankful to hear this podcast because nobody else has even spoken to Jessica, and this is now 17 years ago. Thanks to Jessica and thanks to Andy for this podcast. More importantly, thank you for your service in the United States military.
I was 16 the when we invaded Iraq. I 100% remember seeing Jessica on TV! I have to say in all honesty I wondered from time to time how Jessica was doing after she got home. Now I know! Thanks Jessica for doing the interview with Andy! Thank you both for your service!
Popo Medic just had a video about this, and your podcast was recommended. Gotta appreciate the fleeting occurrences of a good recommendation in the RUclips comments.
As a fellow teacher, I can sympathize with Jessica when she groans about the use of cell phones in the classroom. I deal with adult students, so yeah. Great podcast. I remember when this was happening, I was out of the army and in grad school by then. So glad to see she is kicking ass in life.
What a fantastic girl that Jessica is. And so are you Andy. Thank you very much for this great discussion. As a Viet Nam vet I am proud of my service, but only in the last few years. We were treated horribly by some, but not all, Americans when we came home. I am so glad that most Americans honor and respect our military men and women in the last two decades.
25:00 What a blessing to have the capacity to forget traumatic events. I am glad she recovered so well. I saw the video of her in the hospital bed and it broke me. Tough gal.
Yea I can’t even fathom how terrifying that would of been! She was soo scared when she heard the gunshots outside! And the guy told her “it’s ok, you’re with us now you’re safe, we won’t let anything happen to you” 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@ryanbuckley5529 Physical symptoms of PTSD are haunting to watch. I personally think because she forgot she probably suffers from nightmares but I'm sure she had a therapist or sufficient time to explore those "lost feelings" after all we never truly forget anything.
Most people who suffer a traumatic event spend a few hours everyday recalling the events (mostly while staring into the distance), but the mind will eventually incorporate those difficult memories into her higher consciousness. That will probably have an effect on her personality in the process. One hopes that it is something positive as it is also rather easy to vent out to racism or some other negative social construct, but that's for her therapist to work out.
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Given she is a soldier it will probably make her more of a patriot. One hopes soldiers are trained to expect PTSD, and her response to her weapon jamming, as well as everyone else's seems more in that direction. That being said I have no idea how religious she is, and becoming more religious as a result is also rather common.
Having listened to it again, it seems she was not prepared, and I sense a disassociation through avoidance. She uses terminology like, "just get through it" or "get to the other side" which to me suggests that. I am not a psychologist but I would expect episodes of sleep walking or vivid nightmares and the like. Another thing she said was, "good Iraqis" so you can already see an absolute good and bad divide there. Her first memory she says was waking up in the hospital, I don't think that it was. Another indication is her stress levels going up when saying "my" but not "my body", suggesting disassociation is still making it easy for her. This is really rough to listen to as well, let alone watch the clip.
I wanted to also mention the other side of the blessing that is forgetting which is the best social integration method but from a security perspective it also makes her vulnerable to negative influence. So what I mean by that is if somebody had an audio recording of her interrogation they may play it to her, forcing her to relive those forgotten moments inducing stress she has been avoiding, which could be paralyzing.
Given her tendency to associate absolute good and bad adjectives to Iraqis, it may be possible for a social hacker to get her to harm someone her social media sources convinced her was a "bad Iraqi", who could be any target, allowing a hacker to abuse her trauma to harm maybe even kill and have her end up in prison if she isn't technically inclined to understand the methods employed by the hacker.
That could eventually have her be dependant on her psychologist potentially for the rest of her life, which could end up being another limiting factor in her life.
In conclusion I'll say forgetting is a blessing so long as she is aware of how her communication devices operate and/or she would be willing to be in close proximity to mental help. Otherwise I think remembering every painful detail until she is desensitized is a better approach, but again I'm not a psychologist.
@@ryanbuckley5529 Did I mention war is hell?
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Just saw you on JRE. Thanks for your service and the time you're taking to tell these stories.
I saw your episode on JRE. I’m a subscriber now with all notification. I never served in the military (graduated 1991) but I have huge amount of respect for that served. Thanks for putting yourself in harms way and extreme danger for our country. My best to you and your.
Well said. Same
Good talk. Glad to hear her clear the air. I was there in 2003 and those convoys were a big cluster f@ck.
Only thing I would say is to let her talk more.
Thanks for your service Andy and being such normal dude.....I was an FMF Corpsman in the early 80's
One of the best podcast I've ever heard. I remember when that happened and I always wonder about the seals and pjs who participated in that mission, if they ever reached out to Jessica Lynch. Great interview and keep it up man. The radio comms at the beginning sounds very original and bad ass.
It is from a A-10 pilots console video with integrated audio. I think the video is called a-10 footage cleared hot, but he chopped the audio up, those dudes on the ground where he is yelling west of the smoke, you can see and hear the gunfire in the video. It was wild.
Thank you Andy for having an awesome Podcast. Jessica, thank you for telling your story and thank you both for serving. I also served for 17 years and retired early. Went in Sept 1980 and I still remember my recruiter ICC Roy Spencer. He was very honest with me and through it all and I am very proud of my time in. My son is about to go in and I wish him well and both of you too.
A great story about the value of telling the truth without embellishment. Two great heroes.
JRE def brought me here. These are true patriots! Her story about getting the American flag from one of the guys shows their true love for our country! God Bless all of the people involved.
I cant begin to fathom how scary it must have been for Jessica.. being the first prisoner of the war sounds so harrowing.. So glad she made it back home and is doing okay these days.
Thank you for this episode! You both are heros to me.
I’m here because Joe Brought me here. As a Canadian Canada 🇨🇦 God Bless America 🇺🇸
Likewise from USA eh!
She is a Hero because her country asked her to go and she and Lori went into the unknown! Several of the 507th Maintenance did not make it home alive. There were several American Hero’s who answered the call.
Love to you both. I feel really bad for Jessica. It sucks that people blame her for anything. Her name was used when I was in basic as an example and warning of what not to be. I thought that was odd considering the official narrative. Then we got a new drill sergeant who was formerly in her unit and I got a little better information. That would have been 2004.
Wow, cool insight!
I wish this was video recorded, be so much better to see the expressions on their faces as they talk to each other 👌🏻
Cleared Hot should be required listening. Enjoy the variety of guest. Keep up the Awesome content.
Nothing should be “required listening” get out of here with that communist shit!
Andy Stumpf is the reason I'm here. Great dude...good stuff Andy.
You got a hard-on for a guy that is named after a baby newborns belly button. 😂
I, like, so many, have come here from Joe Rogan. So glad I did!!
Most underrated podcast out there. The spectrum of guest is incredible and including Andy’s crazy ass life makes for so many great episodes
Man. This was great. Thanks. I have to say - listening to your podcasts and the stories of combat in a real way has helped me quite a bit. Surprisingly. I usually avoid the “triggers” like documentaries and movies that might be a little close to reality (if that’s even possible) but this medium and presentation is so goddamn good. Hearing it on a much higher level than I ever participated on, hearing you and mike Glover talk... it’s helping me get everything categorized in my mind and framed in the proper perspective and I just want to convey to you how fucking beneficial these podcasts are to a middle aged former SAW gunner grunt in the Army.
Thank you for your service and for your raw honesty. I am in awe of your sacrifice and bravery.
Thank you both for your service. - Canadian neighbour
Thank you both. I think part of this blowing out of proportion is: I've this phenomenon all throughout my life. Scout, School, Corporate world, etc. When things are active, some people want to look BIG, no matter how small a part (if any) they played. Most prevalent when the person has no part, of it and can benefit from the tall tale.
basic training - my last week of basic WAS 9/11 - crazy shit LOL - so glad you guys got this girl - i remember the chanel squawking about all this at the NOSC - it hit pretty close to home cause i started off training to be a pj and kept in touch and one of my buddies (a pj in the 24th STS? at the time - went to basic with his little bro and he was at lackland when we graduated basic) was almost detached to a unit that was there - he was like "i was almost on that team" - we both got little sisters so we both wanted to something, anything - so jess, if you're reading this, i'm ecstatic that you're doing well - wish you the best in all you do
Thank you both, Jessica and Andy. There are significant explicit and implicit healing properties to your dialog. Thanks.
Thank you for the honesty both of you shared. Thank you for your service! I am a new subscriber because I followed Evy P. Secret service agents and now I have been binge listening all day. 50 yr old single nurse now with no clean scrubs for wrk in ER tomorrow. lol it was worth it. Thank you again for a deep educational episode!
Very honest and insightful interview. As a Army Vet I can see the Army and Govt doing just what you both explained, and also understand the reasoning why. But I also am happy to hear the honesty come out from those that were involved. What Jessica went threw was enough on it's own and she deserves to be honored by that alone. I also respect, greatly, and sympathize her survivors guilt towards those who fought with her and did not come home. Thank you for the podcast.
Not taking away anything from this PLATINUM GRADE of a Podcast but This is Why Rogan Podcast is Important!! I accidentally heard it and now I’m here enjoying this Beautiful Conversation ♥️
This should have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views.
Andy, this was the first podcast of yours that I listened too and honestly dude you nailed it.
If I didn’t know that this was #45 I would of assumed you had been doing these for some time now. If you’re ever looking for a convo with a SeaBee hit me up dude I served from 2000-2008 and was certainly apart of some great things and worked with some amazing people!!!
Best of luck too you brother.
Chad D you should check the episode andy did with sean evangelista a friend of andy that was on devgru gold squad with andy. They talk about the raid that andy got wounded and extortion 17 (devgru gold) evangelista was on gold deployed when it happened (half of gold died)the other half were in another region in Afghanistan.
Wow she is sooooooo lucky. God has his eyes on her. Gives me hope to hear her seem so happy and enjoying life. Hope she’s doing great. Thanks for your service guys.
With the injuries she Still deals with I'm not sure she's so lucky 🤔 but I'm So Thankful she came out alive!! God bless all our troops
Thank you Mr Stumpf. I found you on Rogan's podcast. As a AZ resident we followed Jessica Lynch's story as Ms Piestewa was also in that squadron. You are a fine representative of the USN. Thank you from another Sailor. Thank you for using your gifts for protecting America.
Ms Lynch, you are a bright star on a dark night. I can never understand what you went through, but I appreciate your service. I am a USN vet of 6 years during Desert Storm. And then you became a teacher. Wow, my daughter is going to college to be a teacher. You are a hero for 2 generations. Please find peace for your heart.
Joe brought me here .. Thanks for the interview. Thank you both for your service.
Thank you Andy ! Men like you make America the greatest country on the planet. Much appreciation from Pittsburgh
Came here from PopoMedic.
This is one of the greatesest and most real podcasts I've heard in my life. THanks both of you fo r that.
I can honestly say I am here because I am seeking the truth, not because of a podcast. Thank you for your service. Respect.
Like this Lady, I rarely have problems with the VA. I remeber having to wait for the Doc to see me years ago. He found me in the waiting room and apologized. He told me that he had an 87 year old WW2 veteran with chest pains & that the veteran was on about 16 different meds that he had to sort out so he could admit him. After hearing that there was no need to apologize and I told Doc to take all the time he needs. Waiting was the least I could do and to do all he could for Him. I was annoyed at first & humbled quickly. Everyone hates sitting in waiting rooms & most of the time it's over bullshit. But now I try to keep what happened that day in the back of my mind, sometimes more important issues are happening
Finally got around to watching this. Not to sounds arrogant, but she sounds amazingly bright and well spoken being from rural West Virginia. She could have her own podcast for sure!
these 2 are the most down to earth "heroes". what a great podcast. thanks andy and jessica. a thoroughly absorbing 2 hours. all the best to you both.
Found your podcast Andy on Today's Joe Rogan. 2 hours didn't seem like long enough for this. This was such a great interview. Hearing both perspectives converging. Watching video of the rescue. I would love to hear the stories from the other people from this event to help piece this story. The ones that Jessica had written down. You definitely do very well interviewing people Andy. I'm looking forward to listening to your other videos in your channel. Thank you sir!
It would be crazy meeting someone you went in and saved like that and it would be crazy for both sides
Great interview. I remember when this happened and it’s terrific to get her perspective and know she’s doing so well
Incredible story. Sharing with my friends. Thank you, Andy and Jessica for your service to our nation.
Mr Stumpf THANK YOU this is good good stuff.
Totally brought me to tears instantly when she said the guy tore off the American flag off his uniform and handed it to her!!! I totally broke down crying
U should look up the video of it happening she looks at that little flag Exactly as a mother does when she looks at her baby for the first time. Love.
Being disabled 100% with PTSD and some left hand injuries (i was left handed) it can pop up at strange times, sometimes sitting in traffic just at a red light a thought will pop into my head and sometimes it takes me over and sometimes it doesnt.
Please take care of yourself. You are valuable to our country.
This was an Amazing listen. Thank you Andy for the great content.
Thanks for this Andy, I was over there in 2003 too. It's crazy to relive some of these experiences while listening to this.
God Bless you!!!!
I’m glad to hear she’s ok.I was 14 when the invasion happened and she was captured. I remember people praying for her safe return but bracing themselves for bad news. While there were plenty of people who were killed, this was a young pretty girl whose face we were introduced to night after night. Good podcast
What a great interview! Thanks Andy! And thank you both for the sacrifices you've made for me!
This was definitely my favorite podcast to listen to. God bless both of you ❤
1:14:41 the sweetness is palpable. Amazing interview all around and welcome home, both of you.
Also here from Rogan
Two people teaching and healing together, even though they are so different.
Jen farmer oh wow! You’re so brilliant! SMH! You make zero sense.
Jen farmer lol. That’s moronic. I’m glad the US isn’t full of cowardice snowflakes like yourself.
Jen farmer bless your heart
Couldn't agree more... MOPP4 was aweful! Loving Cleared Hot
Wow just listening to these two talk about getting the shot right before going over. I got married to my husband 8 days before he left with 502nd 101st. I remember him getting the shot and getting so sick. I was losing it over so much fear of the unknown and all the stories of ppl theorizing what they were about to go through. I couldn't say anything and just cried so much. That year was one of the worst of my entire life knowing and loving so many ppl leaving and not knowing. My heart is still with every military member. I know my experience is nothing compared to real soldiers but it was still a very real experience for us wives left behind
My dad was in the National Guard out of Martinsville, IN. I believe he left the same time as these guys and was in Kuwait too. I remember that he was already gone before Bush declared war. I thank God that he didn't see a lot of combat. He mostly was the air conditioner guy lol. Even if he did i don't think he would tell me. He just said when I asked him if he's shot at anyone, "if someone was shooting at you Cass you'd shoot back." Thank you to all service men and women who fight for our freedom 🙏
This podcast goes viral 2 years later bc of Rogan lol shows the power of his show and how they are great podcasts you never even know exist just bc there are so many....they say there are 700k just in the states now you think like 2 ppl work on each one at the least 1.5 million ppl doing a podcast out of 300m ppl that's a huge percent of the country....someone should make a channel that scans them all and shows the best ones for the day this one should have been up at the top when it came out... The whole country knew about this story when it happened
Andy is hands down the best story teller.
Compared to what ? A bird??
I remember watching her congressional testimony and just thinking "wow, she's an absolute sweetheart" and thinking how criminal it was that it was something she was forced to do due to the bullshit circumstances.
Yeah, same here. That makes her a hero to me. She sticks with herself and the truth, then eliminating the political bullshits. That's a rare hero trait in young women like her age.
It was so political. 'Let's shit all over Bush, and we'll use this poor little woman to do it.' This political awfulness happens on both sides. Nowadays it is 1000 times worse. It's like Individual human beings don't matter when it comes to the political agendas of operatives.
Jessica Lynch sounds like the coolest lady ever!
This was a great listen. I remember this fairly well. Good to hear the full story from both sides.
Thank you .
That was an excellent interview to finally hear the truth about her experience and twisted the media and politics told the story for ther gain is sad.
I truly wish Jessica and all veterans happiness and health .
Great interview. I really enjoyed it. Nice to see factual info presented in a professional way. Truth should always prevail.
Likes about you:
+No bragging/embellishing, just tell it like it happened.
+Articulite & well spoken.
+True Seal, not movie magic
+Interesting insights of the moment you are in.
+tone of voice is excellent, calm and controlled.
Negatives:
- none
I heard your conversation with Rogan, about Jessica's story. Found this Podcast. Absolutely pinned to my seat. Andy, look forward to listening to you. And Jessica , Phenomenal discussion you and Andy had. Very Thankful for the Freedom that our soldiers keep secure. I hate how the Gov't and Hollywood take a good story and ruin it with Theatrics.
Finally..Andy, don't change a thing. Love the content and the delivery...God Bless!!!
Eating like a trash can, taking suppliments, hoping that it helps...
It's like you summed up my life.
I am so thankful I found this podcast. So Thank You ! ☀️
She wasn’t even tortured. She laid in a hospital for a few days guarded by guards.