What’s Better Off-Road...a Car or a Truck?
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TFL: “Can these off road machines handle this trail?”
Random Lady in EV wagon: “I’m just enjoying this scenic drive.”
Highly dramatized for your viewing pleasure Jethro. 🤣
She was talked out of doing the whole thing, otherwise would have beat them to the signpost 😂
🤣 COLORADO FTW I've seen more people in vehicles with zero business where they are in this state than any other I've lived in. "We got up here in 1974 in our station wagon" haha
There's a point when listening to the GPS just becomes ridiculous and human intervention (RE brain power) is required. 😁
Add: Oh geez, I said that as a joke thinking about the people that drive into a lake on the way to costco. Lo and behold, it came true.
Yeah, this is not a 6.
That's barely a 4, if that. 😂
Scenic drive for sure, nothing crazy though.
Unpopular opinion here, I dont think the new Ranger is thay badly priced, I actually think it is a good deal. People still look at the Ranger as the cheap, terrible but endearing midget beater truck that it was 15 years ago, the newer Ranger is closer in size to that gen F150 than that gen Ranger. $60k is ton of money, but its equivalent to $45k in 2015 dollar terms and compared to new as well as used truck prices these days its pretty reasonable. The new Ranger is good enough I think it almost makes the F150 redundant, as if youre towing snd hauling stuff consistently you're stepping up to a F250 at least and if youre just wanting to truck stuff occasionally the Ranger is much more liveable and capable enough.
When people were begging for the return of the Ranger, I don’t think they wanted a 3/4 scale F150. Pretty sure they wanted the small, simple, affordable truck that was the old Ranger.
@@-Jethro-that’s where the Maverick landed (we could argue unibody vs body on frame but thats another convo). Size wise, my mom has both a 99 Ranger extended cab and a 24 Maverick. Very close in size, bigger (and nicer interior), a little bit shorter bed but deeper, much higher payload capacity with the Maverick.
I don;t know if I would say almost redundant. I have a 23 F150 and had considered the Ranger. F150 has much more interior space and a bigger bed. My spec has a similar payload as the ranger raptor, but 12,500 pounds towing. The Ranger is probably all of the truck I really need, but I like the F150 much more.
Eh it's not that reasonable when a Chevy Colorado ZR2 is $5-10k cheaper and just as capable as the Ranger Raptor.
@heavymetal9099 Nahh the Raptor is more extreme desert baja runner and the ZR2 is more like Overlander+, the ZR2 is more comparable to a Tremor packaged truck. Chevy must hate money and refuses to give us an actual Raptor fighter in any category: Fullsize, Midsize, or Bronco-type truck. Another massive thing is resale, look at any Raptor ever made and resale defies logic, so any extra savings will be quickly eaten up by depreciation.
Ford managed to include a winch from the factory while making it look like an aftermarket add-on.
Beautiful video love the trucks and scenery and of course Roman and Andre thanks guys
Glad you enjoyed it
I think Andre had a great idea!! Bronco pickup!!!
Glad to see you guys are starting to air down. It is absolutely critical to offroading. I would like to see you go around 18 PSI on these trucks instead of 25. I have ran kingston peak many times and you don't need to worry about ground clearance with that truck.
You guys do a great job! Love watching these kind of videos! Two very cool and capable rigs!
Glad you like them!
African or European swallow? It's such an important difference
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
@@-Jethro- a 5 oz bird cannot carry a 1 lb coconut
It's not a question of how it would grab it it's a difference in weight ratios
I fart in your general direction!!
So where is the car?
The Bronco is not a truck
@@timothymccurdy8207 it’s also not a car smh
@@Texas_G_Longhorns fair
Bingo. Neither of these are cars.
I think it was the Subaru EV. And apparently it was doing fine. 😂
I have done this trail several times with and Xterra on 33’s, it is fun challenge with some steep loose climbs, ruts and rocky areas. If you are on 35’s or bigger it will take away the challenge but still a great trail for scenery.
A vehicle I wish was still made!!
@@thedude828-ed2nn I'm surprised Nissan hasn't capitalized on the overland/off-road craze and released an updated model.
@@dwleffler right I have a frontier I'm planning on titan swapping it I got it on a a Bilstein 5100 kit from all dogs with their uca's and 33 in tires and it has taken me everywhere I want to go. The cool thing about Nissan is all the parts are interchangeable from the Xterra to the frontier and titan. No other company does this they could be huge in the off-road community if they had more aftermarket support.
I'm not sure why everyone says the scenery is so great. Just looks like rocks and dirt to me. The Mountains are impressive but give me a forest any day. Better yet, Glacier Nat'l Park... Mountains, trees, rivers, and lakes.
A Sasquatch ranger would be crazy
Great job capturing that scenery!
I'd go with the ranger as well because if there's a body of water, I'm going fishing. And you don't want certain stinky things in the cabin.
Truck vs suv, but we enclosed the truck bed so it’s like a suv where you hav to go outside to get into the back.
There's a notch in the ultimate splash meter when you've got it so high that you run into it again on the way down. It's a fun game to play.
They are pretty much the same vehicle other than the bodywork and body mounts as they are on the same chassis
Your way off , you can't compare 4cyl to a 6cyl 😂
@@dee151 Well it depends but in general no ,if its a Detroit 5.1 4 banger though rip the 6cyl!
That Jaco air down gauge is legit with the quick-connect 🤯
We're on the edge of a cliff, there's a very large ditch on the left 🤣
Great video - love that trail! Also thank you for showing that Jayco deflator, have been looking for one with a quick lock tip. Looks like it has a quick release too.
What a great improvement with the videography. Good angles. The skyview fallaway. The top down, drive-by still shots. Lots of great stuff y’all!
Without seeing it all, I think these are pretty equally matched. It looks like a GFC on the Ranger. It looks good.
It depends on the person. Some will want the SUV and others will choose the truck bed. I had a 2013 jeep wrangler 4 door and sold it for a 2023 gladiator Mohave and I definitely prefer the truck.
Like they said a truck is more all around useful a body on frame SUV is more capable off road.
I originally wanted a 4dr Badlands Sasquatch, but the frameless doors and removable roof, and the fact that I decided I really had to have a bed for hauling nasty stuff I couldn't haul inside were the reason I got a 2024 Colorado ZR2 instead. I knew that with the Bronco I'd never take anything but the front top part off (and then where do you store it?), would never take the back part off, and would never even consider taking the doors off. And the fact is, the vast majority of owners don't either, at least not on a regular basis. The frameless doors were a major nope for me because I work at 7,300ft where it snows, and when (not if) the window freezes in the up position, it's a pain to even open the door, and then when you do, the window will not seal because there's now a gap, plus it's hard on the window motor etc. (possible damage) doing that. So, yes, the ZR2 has a little longer wheelbase and less breakover and departure angles, but it's more stable on the trail and on the road (which, let's face it they spend by far the most time on) especially when towing (they usually have higher ratings too). And it while it has less internal room, it has a MUCH bigger bed you can put waterproof storage boxes in (I have a truck box I can easily put in and out and secure it with anti-theft cables) and you could put a camper on it. WAY more versatile. Since I got the power moonroof, I have almost all the benefits of the removable front top, AND the ability to quickly close it in inclement weather and still look up thru the glass, or if the sun is beating down on my face, I close the shade. I recently did a 3,700mi trip in 10 days from basically Southern CO to Glacier Nat'l Park and back down for 1-1/2 days wheeling in Moab and it was awesome having that flexibility with the moonroof. It's all in what works best for your needs, and for many of us, that's a truck. LOVE my ZR2, WAY more capable than I am as a driver. I think Chevy should make a new body on frame Blazer based on the Colorado but with framed doors and a solid roof (with optional moonroof) for those of us that want one. THAT would sell like hotcakes!
You must just like em LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Come on TFL, yall can do a harder trail than this!!! Yall have in the past (Bronco vs Defender vs Wrangler) (Bronco vs Super Wrangler vs Super Defender) … I want to the the Ranger Rapter vs Colorado ZR2 Bison vs TRD Pro.
How many commercials can one show do?
Felt like I was watching a 22min ad
14? Just guessing. Haven’t watched the whole video yet.
I am at 2 at 3 minutes in. I might have underestimated. 😂😂
they’re running a business not a charity. That’s how they can create this content for our enjoyment
@@nolo3 True! Got to make money. Also, all of our comments about the ads helps with the RUclips algorithm.
These Colorado trail ride videos have been great!
Airing down to less than 20 psi would make it worthwhile
I run 10 psi on my Bronco in the rocks, never lost a bead
It's a tough one I'll take the bronco, but I would like the engine in the ranger
I can't tell you how many times I have gone well off road only to find a Subaru (or a group of Subaru's) out there. Certainly, the approach angles are not as good as they could be but the Wilderness editions have good ground clearance. And, I have never seen a Subaru owner air down. Jeep and Bronco owners seem to constantly air down when they don't have to (and should not have).
My 2010 RAV4 V6 AWD (now with 212k miles!) is surprisingly capable, especially since, unlike Subies, I can actually mechanically lock the center diff up to 25mph. I've taken that thing ALL kinds of places I probably shouldn't have, and almost got it stuck (badly!) only once, and it made it every time. Sometimes barely (gotta be careful, no skidplates!), but it did. BUT, having said that, it's (and Subies) capabilities are nowhere near those of my 2024 Colorado ZR2 or anything similar. Not even close. Ground clearance, actual lockers, skidplates, and low range are SO much better offroad. Plus it's more enjoyable since even on stuff the little SUV's could do (but at a crawl, stressing over your lines), the ZR2 just cruises over like it was nothing, allowing me to enjoy the scenery with a lot less stress.
Some people have to understand that AWD is not the same as 4x4.
From a purely off roading perspective, the Bronco would have better breakover angle due to its shorter wheelbase. Its departure angle is also better.
Great vid as always! As a total noob offroader, I LOVE seeing trails like this that it looks like I can seek out and do. MUCH better than just blindly trying a new path and then have it suddenly turn too difficult. While my 2024 Colorado ZR2 is easily capable of more difficult trails than this, since I'm a noob, I look for trails like this to learn on. Next time I'm back in CO, hopefully I can hit this trail. Keep up the good work! Oh, and for me, the truck makes a lot more sense because I can haul stuff...
The camera work and editing were stellar in this video. Great job guys
Apples to Apples on mods. SUV in theory should always do better off road with shorter wheelbases and better approach/departure angles.
For me and my wife it’s easy, we don’t have kids and I like to haul stuff so the Ranger!
Bang for the buck, the Ranger Raptor is fantastic. You can always put larger tires on it. Being able to haul and tow is great.
Please tell me you’re not calling a Ford Bronco, which is body-on-frame, a car in this comparison. I know you guys use the term car for almost every vehicle and that’s one thing. But to compare two body-on-frame vehicles, and calling one of them a car is a stretch. Maybe if you compared the Ranger with a Bronco Sport, but cmon guys. I’ve been watching your channels for 8+ years and I obviously enjoy the content. Just maybe reconsider what you call a car next time.
Very nice vehicles gentleman. In about 20 years from now I should be able to afford 1 or the other when the price comes down they will have a few dents too from hail.
I agree with Andre, Bronco pickup truck like the initially said they were considering.
You guys should really have headsets when offroading like this so you can have both hands on the steering wheel.
And its way more convenient!
I really really really want to get my Ford RR out to Colorado and experience these trails. You guys are so lucky. Great video.
I love that trail and the camping in that area is wonderful. It's not easy, but before my FX4 Ranger I used to take a Nissan Murano and Mazda CX-5 up there.
I paid 46,000+ for my Ford focus RS in 2017 at that time it was ford’s most expensive product. And of course, plus markup.
Even in 2017 the HD trucks were WAY more than that.
The old truck vs suv debate. The truck has so much more utility, but the Bronco does give the option of being far more specialized. Easier to get crazier lifts and tires without much work, plus the top coming off. Still wild that a Ford Ranger costing almost 60k though. The times we live in.
You guys were at the James Peak Lookout on Hilltop Rd / Kingston Peak Trail which is at 11,500 feet or so and you can see James Peak Lake, Little Echo Lake and of course James Peak from there. Stunning views.
Bronco and Ranger are both T6’s. One has a little more off-road bolt one and one a little more functional bolt ons. Tech and functions are similar.
This was one LONG COMERCIAL
Its Spelled ' commercial ' ..... genius. Next time you want to start trolling...bring a dictionary.
@@2151abell cool story karen
at least the sponsors of the video are legit products (on x offroad app and Jaco rapid deflator). I don't mind it at all when the sponsors are relevant. TFL needs to be paid for their awesome content and thats how its done
"I wish I was a crow" -Andre lol
"It's like skiing" -Roman lol
For the price I think these are good value vehicles. People think these are for “everyday” people. This are truly meant for people who off-road…not for driving to Costco
Bronco pickup truck?!? They have the same chassis, motor whatnot. They are already pretty much the same thing with different bodies right?
I think the point is making a bronco with the same towing and payload capacity as the ranger raptor…
Nice video guys. You two work well together. Keep it going.
Go Subaru Solterra!!
Thanks for the great trail suggestions! Looking forward to exploring them.
Nice Ranger splashing Andre!
I am absolutely cross shopping the two. Not sure why you would say that Roman.
I’m pretty sure that this is the peak that we drove to in our 2 Wheel drove our TEC Ford Econoline poptop top camper in the 80s with my grandparents in their 2 Wheel drive ford pick up truck camper. I have to dig around on the photo albums, but I am sure looks like the same place to me. We were off rock hounding because grandpa and grandpa were into lapidary work.
The bronco is a not a “car” its a Body on frame Truck. And its always been the suv version of the pickup truck.
Wow, they're actually comparing apples to apples instead of apples to oranges. That's a nice change.
The Ranger is what made the F150 so popular… before it got too big. Make a manual transmission option and I’m in.
Amazing video. Thank you
the bronco wildtrack price in my country arround 190k $ something 😁
You guys are gonna get soo high!
Truck vs car? We need some 2wd car action! Some wheelspin!
Both great, but I'm not spending 58k on *anything* new. But in 3 or 4 years I'll try to find a used Ranger Raptor for 50 or 60 cents on the dollar. Until then, I'll keep loving my 6.2 Raptor. Leaving on another trip to Moab exactly 14 days from now.
Why does this channel push for everyone to buy the top modes 😂. Test xl and work trucks.
Awesome video! Thanks guys
Awesome vid..great scenery..good looking vehicles
Great Job Men.... Loved the video, as Always !
Glad you enjoyed it!
The Everglades also has different fenders as well which I like on the Everglades.
That's cool, to bad I only work 60 hours a week and will never afford any of these.
You can sleep inside the Bronco so you don't need an $11k GFC. My dog isn't getting up in a RTT with me and he isn't fitting in the back of that Ranger. Also, you can have the Bronco with a manual. I have a Chevy Colorado already and for less $ than you put into the GFC I could put a supercharger on it and have more power than the turbo Ranger. So I think I'd go for a lower spec Manual Bronco and a supercharger for my Colorado and still be under $58k
Hope you put the j braces on the ranger with that load.
Everything has been way over price since covid. I’m not shock of any prices now a days.
One is a pickup one isnt they both have the same engine options so in my opinion they are both trucks
So what happened to the woman in the Subaru did she make it to the lake ? You guys said you would check on her
If I were to buy new, the Ranger Rapter would be my everyday driver choice. If I did more off-roading, I would still take the Ranger but change to 35's and take the steps off and replace them with real sliders. Also, the price needs to be reduced by at least 15%. Personally, I would wait two or three years and make the same changes and save a lot of money.
James peak is 13294 ft, not sure your parking lot was 13234 ft. I was there about month ago. Had to walk to James Peak because the gate was closed a couple miles from the James Peak parking lot. Beautiful place.
Great vid bros.
Not being able to get the Everglades with a manual transmission even though it comes standard with the motor that's available with the 7MT makes absolutely no sense to me.
I was just looking for this video
Jeep needs a 392 XR Mojave already...
Which one of you had a quieter interior for the ride to the trail?
Well considering that the bronco 4 door and Ranger are built on nearly the same frame and they both have ecoboost engines I think the performance is going to be pretty similar between the 2. My money is on the Bronco tho. Bigger tires better clearance.
They all that off-roading that is a ever day road here in Tennessee 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You guys really gotta get some proper rock rails on that ranger
Could you please try the maxxtrax Indeflate it works much better when airing down. You work regret it.
Why do wranglers and broncos have such a vertical windshield?
Love the video lads.
Hell you can’t find one for 58 k all dealers nave marked the ranger raptor above MSRP
As a EU citizen I am just very jealous of Colorados trail network and the possibilities you have over there. In my country every road is either closed off or paved with tarmac, if you cant drive there with a Nissan Leaf its illegal. I can see where these rules come from but its been taken far too long
We are the land of the Free and fighting to keep it that way. I'm Irish, no comparison to the USA!
While Colorado/Utah/Montana/etc.. offer impressive public trails in vast wilderness, it's not like the whole USA is like that :- ). And while majority of Europe has indeed nothing of it, we do have very similar trails on periphery. Romania and Balkans (Particularly Montenegro, Albania,..) offer wild camping and off-road trails. And further east, though not by crazy much, Armenia and Georgia are still super safe (for now...) and also offer wild camping and off-road trails.
It all requires bit more time for travel (so no weekend trips) but still very impressive and I would say even more diverse experience.
@@user-yl9vs9eh1w That’s cool. we get to carry guns though! Mostly “just because we can”
13, 294 feet- - - per the sign. Your shot showing the Bronco tires is showing some bolt Way out unscrewed next to one all tightened up. 👀
The problem with 33" tires is that they're actually 32.7" and once the weight of the truck is on them probably 32.2" To advertise 33" tires they should have to actually be 33" tires.
Bed stiffener have been on back order for months. How did you get a set to run the ranger camper top? Anything over 88 lbs above the bed needs them according to ford. Don't understand why they make a flimsy bed requiring such a thing?
I want the bronco pickup
@Tfl. What kind of walkie talkie are you guys using on the trails.
I'd like to know, too. They used to have a radio sponsor several years ago but these units are clearly not those. I suppose any common units would work at the very short vehicle-to-vehicle distances they keep, though (trails, drag races, etc).
I wouldn't take any "car"off-road, but would a SUV (if capable). As for "what's better off-road" IMO it depends on the particular trail: Is a shorter wheelbase (SUV) better suited for that trail or is a longer wheelbase (truck)? For one example, but truck and SUVs can do Black Bear Pass, but the best choice (makes it EASIER) is a 2-door SUV (like a Wrangler). However, as said BOTH types of vehicles CAN do that pass. On a pass with break-over-challenge obstacles, then yes, a truck isn't so good.
-- BR
It would have been cool if they kept the Grenadier for longer than a month and had it in this comparo. Because this wasn't rock crawling but trail driving i.e. over-landing. And then we'd have seen what an extra $20K gets you - or not - over the Bronco.
both trucks are built in the same plant with essentially the same chassis. they are both trucks
In what universe is a Bronco on 35's a car?
Did you add the J-Braces to the Ranger Raptor for that cap?
Wheres the car? Mustang? Camry? A truck would absolutely be better than a car. In this comparison Id choose the Bronco SUV.
My choice is the Ranger Raptor 😎