Already had my a7iii and won’t get an a7C. The size difference would’ve driven me to get the a7C with a Ronin SC, but then DJI released the RSC2, which has no issues with my a7iii now. The flip screen would’ve been great, along with the focusing, but they’re not enough to make me pay more. I still would like a 2nd body, but maybe waiting to see what Sony does with the a7iv (whenever that may be) is my best thing to do.
Bought A7C instead of A7iii, even with the sale... - Smaller, main priority. Will use with small primes. - Travel camera... It was this, or A6400, and preferred full size - Not price sensitive... paid extra for full frame, but did not want a larger camera - Don't care at all about the single SD card slot as a hobby camera The market for this are new buyers who previously have not bought cameras primarily due to physical size, who are not price sensitive, and where full-frame is a selling point. Sony will sell a ton of these - just not to existing A7iii owners, it's not an upgrade. The existing A7iii owners will upgrade to either A7S (for video) or A7iv (for photo). Makes total sense to someone who is new to the ecosystem, and who prioritizes size. Main issue now is the idea is powerful but small/light... And there are only so many quality lenses which fit this criteria...
Coming from a6400, never really shot a full frame camera (I held an a7ii in my hands briefly). No joystick, meh evf, no front dial, non issues for me.. As I've learned to live with it. Hopefully coming in Friday with a viltrox 85mm...
It has faster processor. Light and small. I used cameras mostly for travel. I got mine today. EVF is small but not bad at all. I think it's tough for whoever wears glasses though.
I sold my canon R6 for the A7C and wow what an amazing camera! People on RUclips need to stop making these cameras seem pointless.... this camera is for any content creator who wants a smaller setup without compromising high-quality video/photo.
The a7c is a fantastic travel camera for an enthusiast. Create image quality, & access to all the fantastic Sony mount lenses. I bought one and I am loving it!
i sold my A7iii & bought A7C, the reason i did it becuz the FAST auto focus for human & dogs/cats. If i really need 2 cards for serious videos, no choice i have to use Ninja Monitor, but for autofocus....A7C is great. No regret so far :)
I bought Sony A7iii.... build quality and the grip feels good. A7C doesn’t add much more to what A7iii already has. Although A7C seems really compelling to buy as it seems small or compact. Once we put a good lense on it. Everything boils down to what I need. EVF is much needed for my go to A7iii 👍🏻either way both are great
Got both! I’m a mid-level shooter, not a professional, so both cameras fit my needs. Upgrading from the A7s, the A7SIII is exciting, but $3500 for one camera body is too much 😭 So I got the A7III to use as my main work camera for hybrid work paired with my Sony 24-70 GM lens and purchased it recently brand new for only $1606 - body only - in B&H (EDU Advantage pricing)! I got weak arms, so I need a smaller camera to use on my gimbal and to use as a B Cam, so the A7C’s smaller size is perfect (it is also less intimidating for my hubby to use). Bought it brand new for $1888 with the 28-60mm kit lens (once again, with student pricing from B&H)!
Just got the a7c with the 20mm 1.8 Sony lens. Probably the best setup for a individual content creator thanks to the awesome autofocus and flip screen.
Talking about the 16-50 kit lens starting at 16:50 I wonder whether it was planned. Also, the 16-50, as you surely know, is an aps-c lens. The first kit lens for FE was the 28-70.
I am a hiker and mountaineer, and I bought the a7c as a lightweight and slimmer (in the sense of fitting it into my backpack) alternative to the a7III (which I also own and am very happy with). It works well with the Batis lenses (e.g. 25 or 40 mm), and also with the Tamron 28-75mm.
Hi how is it the result of tamron 28-75? Is it great lens? Im also newbe. Or a below beginner. I want to upgrade my camera and i read your comment. Can u also suggest which one i ashould take?
Picked up the A7c and I'm using it far more than the A7III. The smaller size really makes a difference, and I prefer the rangefinder placement viewfinder.
I just got my A7C and I love it. I cancelled my A7SIII due to cost and sticked with A7C and I am so glad that I did especially for my needs as I am not in to any professional work and I am only doing RUclips videos.
@@simplevisuals good call. I got my A7c last weekend and I am thoroughly enjoying it. Check out the latest 2 videos on the channel and you will see the quality of the camera.
The A7C would probably be the perfect upgrade for me right now from the A6300 but I'm not in love with the price so might pick up an used A7III for 1600$ (a new one in Sweden is like 2300$) or save up a bit more and get the A7IV when that drops.
@@CarlBergsdorf If you are planning to use it for RUclips content creation, then go with A7C. I was a A7III user and even with the $100 difference if I have to pick now, I would go with A7C instead of A7III because of the improvements and flip out screen which helps a lot when making content as one man show.
This camera gives someone an option who likes small lenses and enjoys full frame. I own Batis, Loxia and samyang. These lenses fit great this camera. I sold my Sony a7R and a6000.
My wife and I shoot photography together and she currently uses the A6600. I am about to get the A7siii.......My wife likes the size of the a6600 better than my a7iii so I have been thinking about selling both my a7iii and my a6600 and getting an a7c. Still the same size as my wife and then I still have a full frame backup camera and the plus is it has a flip out screen. Thats my thinking.
A returned my a7iii to get the a7C. I do more video work and it has been better for me. I do miss the multi port and the 2nd SD card slot. Main reason I switched was the rotating screen and no recording limit.
This is a tricky one! I´ve been considering the a7iii for months but I am a bit scared to pull the trigger. I kinda feel like I am missing out on some of the new features like the new digital stabilization, the improved AF and the new screen, compared to the C (or a7siii, or a7iv..) However, I would like to have the ability to maybe start doing some paid gigs at some point, and I agree that those missing dual card slots are a dealbreaker and the fact that it is so compact might not look good for the potential client. One option ofcourse is to wait for the A7iv but I would be stretching my reasonable budget with the A7iii so A7iv probably would be a bit too much... gotta be able to afford that sigma 24-70 aswell 😅
So me and my business partner own a Sony A7Siii. It's our main camera for what we do, and I was looking for a personal camera that would also double as a B cam if need be. I say that because I think if we didn't own that camera, I'd have bought the A7III. I bought the A7C for a number of reasons but ultimately, after seeing the world through the A7Siii I could not go back to the old, slightly magenta tinted world of Sony's previous color science. It's a small difference, but ultimately the one that put it over the top for me.
I'd personally go for the a7iii because I need the dual card slots, front dial and custom buttons. However, I think the a7c would suit a (rich) vlogger well.
My A7C allows to customize 7 buttons and has 3 custom modes on the dial. Even if you compare directly to A7 III, at least count the top "video" button as a custom button.
@@chrisbrockhurst Nah there are many reasons I got the 7C. Just pointing out what I thought was the biggest misinformation in your video. But that of course is one way to take it.
It is totally made for people like me! I am video focused and mostly record myself (drumcovers, talking head) for RUclips. Therefore the flipscreen is veeery handy. Also, I like to take pictures of my children when they play and run around the house. I tried the Sony A7III, but I really was unimpressed by the autofocus, which gets worse when shooting video. The flapping doors on the A7III were horrible, and having a mic and a pair of headphones connected most of the time, they would have broken within 2-3 months. I like the better colors, the better autofocus and the flipscreen a lot! Coming from the rather cheap Canon M50, I just can't without those features. I am still gonna wait for the Sony A7IV before investing my money into any of those cameras. Hoping for a fully capable touchscreen though!
I bought the A7C over A7III. Reasons, new color science, no record limit, more portable, better Autofocus, gyro stabilization post, flip out screen. And one so few people mention... resale value. I figure I can get 90% back if the A7IV comes out in the near future. The A7III are already depreciating and it will only get greater when its successor comes out. At least that's what I'm betting on.
Which one to buy? Easy for me. Still the A7C. Why? Because I like vlogging with my camera. That's it. It has a flippy screen and that makes it worth more than the A7III in my book. Any other minute difference doesn't really matter.
Spot on review, too bad I watched it after purchasing A7C kit. I've now returned the A7C and promptly bought just the A7iii body and couldn't be happier. A7C feels like a toy for photography, the size differences are overblown too. The biggest let down to me was the EVF and lack of buttons/wheels, the nipple joystick is a real deal breaker too. The 28-60 kit lens isn't bad, but I feel this range is better covered with a quality prime. It has really bad purple fringing at F4.0 too. You only buy the A7C for light gimbal vlog use, otherwise just go with the superior A7iii. Even the buttons feel better quality.
How is the autofocus no the a7iii? I’m happy with my video quality for the a7c but I can’t stand the tiny view finder. I’m thinking of going for a a7iii but I don’t want to compromise the quality of my videos
@@FrancoEnElMedio I honestly have no complaints, if A7C is better I forgot and can't tell the difference, A7iii is great at everything, including video af
You can customize all of the buttons on the Camera. So yes it gets rid of their original functionality, but There are more like 9 custom buttons instead of 3 or 4.
I’m looking seriously at moving to full frame after 15 years of Canon APSC. Camera size and WEIGHT is a critical factor whilst having excellent auto focus capabilities. I’m not a pro so 2 cards, meh! Interesting review but looking from my perspective it’s a great option.
Been thinking about getting this to jump into full frame. Only do RUclips stuff so the flip screen is what I have been waiting for. Might just wait for the a7iv
This may be a strange statement, but I’d rather have one UHS-II card than a dual card slot solution that uses UHS-I as one of the card slots. I briefly tried the A7III and found the card write times to be painfully slow when using both card slots in redundant mode, especially when coming from a Z6 with a super fast XQD card. I started with mu43 cameras and my favourite bodies were the Panasonic GX8, GX80 and GX9. This A7c reminds me of those cameras and looks really good. The A7c looks good for an enthusiast travel or family documentary shooter and I am tempted.
First off, love your videos! I'm a new subscriber! Hiiii! Secondly, I just purchased the A7C (body only) over the A7iii . I chose it due to the flippy screen and no record limit. Dual card slots aren't really important to me at this point in time. Im just now picking up the hobby of photography and videography, so I figure it's a good enough practice camera for me in those areas. I'm also ready to retire my iphone when recording my podcast. I do plan to upgrade to the A7IV whenever that comes out, but the A7c will still work for me as a B cam, or as an easy to tote travel/vlog camera. Can't say I love it yet because I haven't received it yet, but I'm ready to get it and test it out.
excellent choice, I am in the same boat as you :-) so far loving it and it really made the youtube workflow easier. Main camera for me now is A7C and my overhead camera is ZV1
This camera saved me some money :D I was ready to buy the Canon R6 from Sony, than they anounced A7C... I needed a camera - I ended buying A7III with more than 2 years of warranty second hand for 1200 euro. Thanks Sony for saving me money :). PS you forgot to share with us the truth about the shutter in this camera. It is crippled to one curtain like in the A3000, A5000, A5100 and it ruins your bokeh on speeds above 1/1000. It messes up the photos with flash in HSS because of the one curtain... For me the A7C is a huge fail. It is not small, it lack a lot of buttons and grip and backup options (not for pros), it is expensive... I think they wanted to create something to put against EOS R but ... It was going to be much better to simply make a facelift of the A7III. A paid firmware update or a A7III with the flip screen. I really do not know what were they thinking...
Gimbals and the siii sensor and the newer processor as you noticed the menus system is faster, the gyro makes it future proof tech and the new vari display makes the evf not as needed since you can just go portrait on the display now
Pointless in most real world scenarios except for streaming in which case you're better served by A6600+Sigma 16mm F1.4 (I have this setup). FF is overkill because the stream is so compressed there's no benefit. You might say it's for the bokeh but at some point your background will start to look fake and tiny focus area will work the camera very hard if you move, even the best lenses will hunt. Otherwise when do you really need a single clip to be longer than 30min? Very few situations, but I can see the need for assembly, cooking time lapse style videos
If the price point was a little cheaper, I would be down to buy it. I think it would be an excellent everyday camera you could throw in a backpack for vlogs and random photos.
I am not even going to lie, I legitimately bought the a7iii as an upgrade from my a6500 for the body. I like the EVF being in the middle (coming from a former canon DSLR) and I never liked the a6500's left side EVF. mot even the size of it. and like you showed, the grip. I have big hands. the A7C is amazing for people who want a smaller camera. just not my preference.
Hi Chris! FIrst of all congrats on this amazing channel that I've been following already for over a year, I love your way of explaining and speaking. I wanted to ask you a question. I own an a7iii and now I need a second body, in my mind it pops 3 possibilities: another a7iii (1500€), a7c (1800€) or go for an a6600 (1000€). what would you take? this second body is mainly for Video. and in mind I think as soon as the a7iv is released t(2021?) hat would be my main camera and the a7iii a second body... Thank you so much in advance.
I have been looking at getting an A7iii for a couple months but just not sure when's the right time to pull the trigger. Thanks for the vid - great insight.
The weight difference is the reason why one camera sounds louder then the other the c is lighter so more noise. You do realize that the c cam was never meant to be a pro cam so one sd card slot is fine . 2 the small EVF is because this cam main propose is to shoot video reasons it has a flip out screen . There two completely different cam for 2 different uses
@@chrisbrockhurst on which point I'd like to know your opinion but I think most here on youtube are taking the a7c way to seriously . It's a have some fun use on auto reason not a lot of buttons blog camera . For the amateur up and coming RUclipsr
I have one on preorder. Sold my A7iii and (selling) my A6600 to cnsolidate to this. But my decision fatigue is more about what a potential A74 would be. But then again, unfair to compare this to an undeclared phantom camera. If one doesn't mind the loss of money, this would make for a good stop gap till the A74 is announced and eventually shipped.
Another weird side-grade by Sony, they did with the a6500 - a6400 too, the a6400 improves almost everything about the a6500 (just no ibis and less custom buttons). Once the A7iv is released the A7c will make more sense but right now it is just a insult to the A7iii by being perceived lower model but getting newer tech and features which the a7iii will not get.
I bought the Sony A7III a week ago and never used it. I am planning to return it because I heard a lot of them will get a broken shutter. Now I am thinking to get the A7C but I heard it doesn’t have such a good image stabilization. I don’t know what to do.
Great review, i much prefer the bigger camera. However, I can see that is these more for the consumer friendly photographers. I’m still holding out for the A7sIII. I had a question thou, that yellow cable for your mic is very nice. Do you remember where you got it? Thanks in advance.
When you are trying to show the indentation/step-down in A7C at 2:35, it's a little annoying that the focus is not on it and is still locked onto your eyes. Maybe you should be holding the camera so that it blocks your eyes when showing such features (I'm not sure if A7C has the "product showcase" feature that does this automatically, when enabled). Not a criticism, just a point so that you can do this in the future, if you want to.
Chris, I’m using Sony A6400 and interested to switch to A7iii, but I am not sure whether I should wait for A7iv. I only have the E 18-135mm OSS lens and it is not great for low light photography. I need your opinion on this matter.
My a7c came in the mail today and I hate the eye part. It feels really uncomfortable. Not sure if I even need a 2100$ camera now. Might just get the a7iii. If I need to take selfies, there are always other options
Chris, love your video pal. Honestly, I'm a fan and I gain such a wealth of knowledge from them. Can I ask that you please stop shooting in a such a shallow depth of field and then continue to show products in your hands. They're never in focus, nor do they ever reach focus when you extend your arm out. Either increase your aperture or just stick to using your beautiful b-roll footage where needed so that it accompanies the footage of you (without products) and then continues over as V/O through the B-roll. You do this very well. Watch the video back with what I've told you especially when you're comparing it to a camera 03:34. I can't see either of them clearly. Just a tip I thought I'd share. I think it's better if we are honest and look to help one another grow. Again, I'm a fan and would love for you to be the best you can be. Take care pal. Hope I won the competition for the a7siii small rig. 😂
hm they price is identical XD if you have sony a7siii which is better as secondary camera more for photos or streaming? btw samyang lens is sharp for the price, though some of them does not have weather seal but I mean can you complain for 250 usd getting sharp wide angle lenses? Compared to 28-70mm i used for a long time, it is day n night sharper, more compact and simply better. Just use it as placeholder to save for lens you really want
We know you know who it's for. It's for vloggers/ YouTUbers which aren't handling the camera. It goes on the Joby Gorilla Pod. You hit record and there you go.
I just bought mine yesterday and it should arrive tomorrow but this video did not change a single thing for me. A7C for the price still makes no sense to me.
I never got why the a7III had only two custom slots on the mode dial. My a7RIII has three and it came out before the a7III. I don't see how a third one would be some fundamental drag on the hardware, nor do I see adding it as something that would undercut sales of more expensive models, but I'm not an expert so take that as you may lol.
hey Chris, do you think a7c could be a a7sIII B-camera ? this one is 8bit right ? is the difference will be huge that you can't use it as B-camera ? is atomos ninja would resolve the (no dual Sd card slot and) 8bits restriction ?
The giro stabalisation is the feature that I find interesting. Id love to see you do a video on it. If I was going to buy one it would probably be with the 17 28 Tamron to keep it compact and relatively lightweight.
Hi. Can you get some a7c footages to download in 4k and 1080p 120 fps in S-Log and HLG with a face in the frame? I wanna check the new color science and the quality of Full HD image.
Do you ever plan to shoot f1.8 glass wide open outdoors and hate using ND filters ? Then stay away from A7C as it has max shutter speed 1/4000 wich is too slow even at ISO50 in sunny outdoors.
This is not a camera to change a7iii, I want to buy this camera cz i love a6500 size, from long ago i want a ff camera but i hate the size cz mainly i use it for traveling, now i sold all of my a6500 camera and lens already put an order for the a7c and come the begining of December 👌🏻 just share my opinion
AF-C generally won't work great with adapted lenses, no matter what lens or adapter you use. At least, that's my finding. But for photo, depending on what you do, AF-S could work pretty decent. I believe there are a lot of videos about this on YT.
Can you do a quick test or at least reply to this comment about charging by USB and if you can charge and stream with this camera and other various useful I need to get a really small travel camera which one do it all. Please tell me how I can I childhood where are you speak can I charge on stream for six hours ?
@@thienloI'm not a big fan of Zeiss due to their appearance tbh. Already got a 24-70GM but I think I should sell it for a tamron 28-75 for ergonomic purposes.
A lot of people want the rangefinder A6000 series style -it sold loads but who wants a crap low res LCD AND a crap EVF on a camera for that much $$. Sony are mean and lazy. Battery life is not an excuse it is class leading already.
I don't get why so many people keep saying they don't know who this is for... - Better AF - Articulating Screen - Upgraded colors - Better design (Flaps are more solid and headphone jack isn't in the way of the display) - IBIS + Catalyst Browse - Screen doesn't black out I feel in every way besides ergonomics and custom buttons its better than the A7iii. Both solid options but there is absolutely a lane for the A7C.
@@chrisbrockhurst Yeah when it comes to professional work there are some flaws but someone who wants to get into full frame with an articulating screen which is highly favored, thats where the A7C fits. Practical for alot of people out there.
Did you grab an A7C? If so, why not an A7III? No wrong answers... just interested! K, off to watch the Election madness unfold, bye!
(1)No 30 min limit as A7iii
(2)Better autofocus compared to A7iii
(3)flip screen.
Already had my a7iii and won’t get an a7C. The size difference would’ve driven me to get the a7C with a Ronin SC, but then DJI released the RSC2, which has no issues with my a7iii now.
The flip screen would’ve been great, along with the focusing, but they’re not enough to make me pay more.
I still would like a 2nd body, but maybe waiting to see what Sony does with the a7iv (whenever that may be) is my best thing to do.
Bought A7C instead of A7iii, even with the sale...
- Smaller, main priority. Will use with small primes.
- Travel camera... It was this, or A6400, and preferred full size
- Not price sensitive... paid extra for full frame, but did not want a larger camera
- Don't care at all about the single SD card slot as a hobby camera
The market for this are new buyers who previously have not bought cameras primarily due to physical size, who are not price sensitive, and where full-frame is a selling point.
Sony will sell a ton of these - just not to existing A7iii owners, it's not an upgrade. The existing A7iii owners will upgrade to either A7S (for video) or A7iv (for photo). Makes total sense to someone who is new to the ecosystem, and who prioritizes size.
Main issue now is the idea is powerful but small/light... And there are only so many quality lenses which fit this criteria...
Coming from a6400, never really shot a full frame camera (I held an a7ii in my hands briefly). No joystick, meh evf, no front dial, non issues for me.. As I've learned to live with it. Hopefully coming in Friday with a viltrox 85mm...
It has faster processor.
Light and small. I used cameras mostly for travel.
I got mine today. EVF is small but not bad at all. I think it's tough for whoever wears glasses though.
I sold my canon R6 for the A7C and wow what an amazing camera! People on RUclips need to stop making these cameras seem pointless.... this camera is for any content creator who wants a smaller setup without compromising high-quality video/photo.
The a7c is a fantastic travel camera for an enthusiast. Create image quality, & access to all the fantastic Sony mount lenses. I bought one and I am loving it!
i sold my A7iii & bought A7C, the reason i did it becuz the FAST auto focus for human & dogs/cats. If i really need 2 cards for serious videos, no choice i have to use Ninja Monitor, but for autofocus....A7C is great. No regret so far :)
Good to hear Fred, enjoy it!
So using atomos ninja v means i can record with two memory card?
The A7III has the same animal autofocus, right?
@@leonarddai4998 you can use Atomos Ninja V to record as well.
@@Collin2377 No, for animal autofocus for sure the A7C is much faster.
Solid review my friend. I just bought the a7iii and love it so much.
I've watched enough A7c tutorials and none of them was so in depth, down to the tactile experience. Thank you!
I bought Sony A7iii.... build quality and the grip feels good. A7C doesn’t add much more to what A7iii already has. Although A7C seems really compelling to buy as it seems small or compact. Once we put a good lense on it. Everything boils down to what I need. EVF is much needed for my go to A7iii 👍🏻either way both are great
Got both! I’m a mid-level shooter, not a professional, so both cameras fit my needs. Upgrading from the A7s, the A7SIII is exciting, but $3500 for one camera body is too much 😭 So I got the A7III to use as my main work camera for hybrid work paired with my Sony 24-70 GM lens and purchased it recently brand new for only $1606 - body only - in B&H (EDU Advantage pricing)!
I got weak arms, so I need a smaller camera to use on my gimbal and to use as a B Cam, so the A7C’s smaller size is perfect (it is also less intimidating for my hubby to use). Bought it brand new for $1888 with the 28-60mm kit lens (once again, with student pricing from B&H)!
Just got the a7c with the 20mm 1.8 Sony lens. Probably the best setup for a individual content creator thanks to the awesome autofocus and flip screen.
I bought a7c too! It's a very good camera. I use it every day. The video was very interesting. Thank you! With love from Japan :)
Talking about the 16-50 kit lens starting at 16:50 I wonder whether it was planned. Also, the 16-50, as you surely know, is an aps-c lens. The first kit lens for FE was the 28-70.
I had this exact question, but lol can’t afford either. If I could tho, I decided the a6600 would be the best
I am a hiker and mountaineer, and I bought the a7c as a lightweight and slimmer (in the sense of fitting it into my backpack) alternative to the a7III (which I also own and am very happy with). It works well with the Batis lenses (e.g. 25 or 40 mm), and also with the Tamron 28-75mm.
Hi how is it the result of tamron 28-75? Is it great lens? Im also newbe. Or a below beginner. I want to upgrade my camera and i read your comment. Can u also suggest which one i ashould take?
Picked up the A7c and I'm using it far more than the A7III. The smaller size really makes a difference, and I prefer the rangefinder placement viewfinder.
I just got my A7C and I love it. I cancelled my A7SIII due to cost and sticked with A7C and I am so glad that I did especially for my needs as I am not in to any professional work and I am only doing RUclips videos.
makes total sense! No need for A7sIII for that. Enjoy it!
I cancelled my Sony A7siii preorder too! Getting the A7C
@@simplevisuals good call. I got my A7c last weekend and I am thoroughly enjoying it. Check out the latest 2 videos on the channel and you will see the quality of the camera.
The A7C would probably be the perfect upgrade for me right now from the A6300 but I'm not in love with the price so might pick up an used A7III for 1600$ (a new one in Sweden is like 2300$) or save up a bit more and get the A7IV when that drops.
@@CarlBergsdorf If you are planning to use it for RUclips content creation, then go with A7C. I was a A7III user and even with the $100 difference if I have to pick now, I would go with A7C instead of A7III because of the improvements and flip out screen which helps a lot when making content as one man show.
This camera gives someone an option who likes small lenses and enjoys full frame. I own Batis, Loxia and samyang. These lenses fit great this camera. I sold my Sony a7R and a6000.
My wife and I shoot photography together and she currently uses the A6600. I am about to get the A7siii.......My wife likes the size of the a6600 better than my a7iii so I have been thinking about selling both my a7iii and my a6600 and getting an a7c. Still the same size as my wife and then I still have a full frame backup camera and the plus is it has a flip out screen. Thats my thinking.
A returned my a7iii to get the a7C. I do more video work and it has been better for me. I do miss the multi port and the 2nd SD card slot. Main reason I switched was the rotating screen and no recording limit.
This is a tricky one! I´ve been considering the a7iii for months but I am a bit scared to pull the trigger. I kinda feel like I am missing out on some of the new features like the new digital stabilization, the improved AF and the new screen, compared to the C (or a7siii, or a7iv..) However, I would like to have the ability to maybe start doing some paid gigs at some point, and I agree that those missing dual card slots are a dealbreaker and the fact that it is so compact might not look good for the potential client. One option ofcourse is to wait for the A7iv but I would be stretching my reasonable budget with the A7iii so A7iv probably would be a bit too much... gotta be able to afford that sigma 24-70 aswell 😅
I think we’re going to be waiting until late next year for a A74. Probably going to have 4k 60 and 10bit which would harm sales of A7sIII for now
Thanks. Totally sold on the A73. 2 SD card slots, better grip and more custom buttons.
agreed x 3
So me and my business partner own a Sony A7Siii. It's our main camera for what we do, and I was looking for a personal camera that would also double as a B cam if need be. I say that because I think if we didn't own that camera, I'd have bought the A7III.
I bought the A7C for a number of reasons but ultimately, after seeing the world through the A7Siii I could not go back to the old, slightly magenta tinted world of Sony's previous color science. It's a small difference, but ultimately the one that put it over the top for me.
I'd personally go for the a7iii because I need the dual card slots, front dial and custom buttons. However, I think the a7c would suit a (rich) vlogger well.
Love your videos thank you for your info I personally have had both but use the a7iii
My A7C allows to customize 7 buttons and has 3 custom modes on the dial. Even if you compare directly to A7 III, at least count the top "video" button as a custom button.
I’m afraid you’re reaching for justification
@@chrisbrockhurst Nah there are many reasons I got the 7C. Just pointing out what I thought was the biggest misinformation in your video. But that of course is one way to take it.
It is totally made for people like me! I am video focused and mostly record myself (drumcovers, talking head) for RUclips. Therefore the flipscreen is veeery handy. Also, I like to take pictures of my children when they play and run around the house. I tried the Sony A7III, but I really was unimpressed by the autofocus, which gets worse when shooting video. The flapping doors on the A7III were horrible, and having a mic and a pair of headphones connected most of the time, they would have broken within 2-3 months. I like the better colors, the better autofocus and the flipscreen a lot! Coming from the rather cheap Canon M50, I just can't without those features. I am still gonna wait for the Sony A7IV before investing my money into any of those cameras. Hoping for a fully capable touchscreen though!
PIcked an A7C primarily for the size and updated specs. Got tired of waiting for A7IV and wanted to leave APS-C for good.
I bought the A7C over A7III. Reasons, new color science, no record limit, more portable, better Autofocus, gyro stabilization post, flip out screen. And one so few people mention... resale value. I figure I can get 90% back if the A7IV comes out in the near future. The A7III are already depreciating and it will only get greater when its successor comes out. At least that's what I'm betting on.
Which one to buy? Easy for me. Still the A7C. Why? Because I like vlogging with my camera. That's it. It has a flippy screen and that makes it worth more than the A7III in my book. Any other minute difference doesn't really matter.
Spot on review, too bad I watched it after purchasing A7C kit. I've now returned the A7C and promptly bought just the A7iii body and couldn't be happier. A7C feels like a toy for photography, the size differences are overblown too. The biggest let down to me was the EVF and lack of buttons/wheels, the nipple joystick is a real deal breaker too. The 28-60 kit lens isn't bad, but I feel this range is better covered with a quality prime. It has really bad purple fringing at F4.0 too. You only buy the A7C for light gimbal vlog use, otherwise just go with the superior A7iii. Even the buttons feel better quality.
How is the autofocus no the a7iii? I’m happy with my video quality for the a7c but I can’t stand the tiny view finder. I’m thinking of going for a a7iii but I don’t want to compromise the quality of my videos
@@FrancoEnElMedio I honestly have no complaints, if A7C is better I forgot and can't tell the difference, A7iii is great at everything, including video af
The size is discussed but not the weight. A7C weighs 22% less than A7iii. This makes it more travel friendly for sure.
I agree. However To put this into perspective we’re talking 140 ish grams.. less than half a can of soda in weight. Is that actually a big deal?
You can customize all of the buttons on the Camera. So yes it gets rid of their original functionality, but There are more like 9 custom buttons instead of 3 or 4.
A7c means I need to wait for the a74 hopefully will have all those features and at least 4K 60fps. Great video bro
I’m looking seriously at moving to full frame after 15 years of Canon APSC. Camera size and WEIGHT is a critical factor whilst having excellent auto focus capabilities. I’m not a pro so 2 cards, meh! Interesting review but looking from my perspective it’s a great option.
I will buy it for the auto-focus, and I will use it as a stand-alone camera when live-streaming.
Been thinking about getting this to jump into full frame. Only do RUclips stuff so the flip screen is what I have been waiting for. Might just wait for the a7iv
Great for travel..use the fn button for manual focus etc , I love my A7c
Can shutter speed and aperture be assigned to the Fn button menu?
This may be a strange statement, but I’d rather have one UHS-II card than a dual card slot solution that uses UHS-I as one of the card slots. I briefly tried the A7III and found the card write times to be painfully slow when using both card slots in redundant mode, especially when coming from a Z6 with a super fast XQD card. I started with mu43 cameras and my favourite bodies were the Panasonic GX8, GX80 and GX9. This A7c reminds me of those cameras and looks really good. The A7c looks good for an enthusiast travel or family documentary shooter and I am tempted.
First off, love your videos! I'm a new subscriber! Hiiii! Secondly, I just purchased the A7C (body only) over the A7iii . I chose it due to the flippy screen and no record limit. Dual card slots aren't really important to me at this point in time. Im just now picking up the hobby of photography and videography, so I figure it's a good enough practice camera for me in those areas. I'm also ready to retire my iphone when recording my podcast. I do plan to upgrade to the A7IV whenever that comes out, but the A7c will still work for me as a B cam, or as an easy to tote travel/vlog camera. Can't say I love it yet because I haven't received it yet, but I'm ready to get it and test it out.
excellent choice, I am in the same boat as you :-) so far loving it and it really made the youtube workflow easier. Main camera for me now is A7C and my overhead camera is ZV1
This camera saved me some money :D I was ready to buy the Canon R6 from Sony, than they anounced A7C... I needed a camera - I ended buying A7III with more than 2 years of warranty second hand for 1200 euro. Thanks Sony for saving me money :).
PS you forgot to share with us the truth about the shutter in this camera. It is crippled to one curtain like in the A3000, A5000, A5100 and it ruins your bokeh on speeds above 1/1000. It messes up the photos with flash in HSS because of the one curtain... For me the A7C is a huge fail. It is not small, it lack a lot of buttons and grip and backup options (not for pros), it is expensive... I think they wanted to create something to put against EOS R but ...
It was going to be much better to simply make a facelift of the A7III. A paid firmware update or a A7III with the flip screen. I really do not know what were they thinking...
Gimbals and the siii sensor and the newer processor as you noticed the menus system is faster, the gyro makes it future proof tech and the new vari display makes the evf not as needed since you can just go portrait on the display now
Think I'll wait to see start the A7lV offers
No record limit A7c. So nice.
True!
Pointless in most real world scenarios except for streaming in which case you're better served by A6600+Sigma 16mm F1.4 (I have this setup). FF is overkill because the stream is so compressed there's no benefit. You might say it's for the bokeh but at some point your background will start to look fake and tiny focus area will work the camera very hard if you move, even the best lenses will hunt. Otherwise when do you really need a single clip to be longer than 30min? Very few situations, but I can see the need for assembly, cooking time lapse style videos
If the price point was a little cheaper, I would be down to buy it. I think it would be an excellent everyday camera you could throw in a backpack for vlogs and random photos.
I am not even going to lie, I legitimately bought the a7iii as an upgrade from my a6500 for the body. I like the EVF being in the middle (coming from a former canon DSLR) and I never liked the a6500's left side EVF. mot even the size of it. and like you showed, the grip. I have big hands. the A7C is amazing for people who want a smaller camera. just not my preference.
Gotta love the flaps! If they could have made that kit lens a 20-60 they would have a winner.
Hi Chris! FIrst of all congrats on this amazing channel that I've been following already for over a year, I love your way of explaining and speaking.
I wanted to ask you a question. I own an a7iii and now I need a second body, in my mind it pops 3 possibilities: another a7iii (1500€), a7c (1800€) or go for an a6600 (1000€).
what would you take? this second body is mainly for Video. and in mind I think as soon as the a7iv is released t(2021?) hat would be my main camera and the a7iii a second body...
Thank you so much in advance.
I have been looking at getting an A7iii for a couple months but just not sure when's the right time to pull the trigger. Thanks for the vid - great insight.
I suggest you do it asap! the price will be back to normal in a bit without a doubt. Hope you enjoy it! It is a pretty amazing camera.
@@jorgeloaizaarias2000 I'm from the UK so not many great deals on here (yet)... Gonna wait and see if it fits the budget come black friday!
In this video, Chris tells us all about the length of his body parts.
The weight difference is the reason why one camera sounds louder then the other the c is lighter so more noise. You do realize that the c cam was never meant to be a pro cam so one sd card slot is fine . 2 the small EVF is because this cam main propose is to shoot video reasons it has a flip out screen . There two completely different cam for 2 different uses
I respectfully disagree with most of that.
@@chrisbrockhurst on which point I'd like to know your opinion but I think most here on youtube are taking the a7c way to seriously . It's a have some fun use on auto reason not a lot of buttons blog camera . For the amateur up and coming RUclipsr
I have one on preorder. Sold my A7iii and (selling) my A6600 to cnsolidate to this. But my decision fatigue is more about what a potential A74 would be. But then again, unfair to compare this to an undeclared phantom camera. If one doesn't mind the loss of money, this would make for a good stop gap till the A74 is announced and eventually shipped.
Another weird side-grade by Sony, they did with the a6500 - a6400 too, the a6400 improves almost everything about the a6500 (just no ibis and less custom buttons). Once the A7iv is released the A7c will make more sense but right now it is just a insult to the A7iii by being perceived lower model but getting newer tech and features which the a7iii will not get.
I got it for non professional jobs/hiking, take anywhere and everywhere type of camera,
I bought the Sony A7III a week ago and never used it. I am planning to return it because I heard a lot of them will get a broken shutter. Now I am thinking to get the A7C but I heard it doesn’t have such a good image stabilization. I don’t know what to do.
Great review, i much prefer the bigger camera. However, I can see that is these more for the consumer friendly photographers. I’m still holding out for the A7sIII. I had a question thou, that yellow cable for your mic is very nice. Do you remember where you got it? Thanks in advance.
When you are trying to show the indentation/step-down in A7C at 2:35, it's a little annoying that the focus is not on it and is still locked onto your eyes. Maybe you should be holding the camera so that it blocks your eyes when showing such features (I'm not sure if A7C has the "product showcase" feature that does this automatically, when enabled). Not a criticism, just a point so that you can do this in the future, if you want to.
I actually don't like the shutter sound on the A7C
It's hard to explain but it sounds like the shutter needs to clear its throat. 😅🤷🏽♂️
Chris, I’m using Sony A6400 and interested to switch to A7iii, but I am not sure whether I should wait for A7iv. I only have the E 18-135mm OSS lens and it is not great for low light photography. I need your opinion on this matter.
My a7c came in the mail today and I hate the eye part. It feels really uncomfortable. Not sure if I even need a 2100$ camera now. Might just get the a7iii. If I need to take selfies, there are always other options
Yeh the eye piece is solid rubber. Not comfortable at all
Chris, love your video pal. Honestly, I'm a fan and I gain such a wealth of knowledge from them. Can I ask that you please stop shooting in a such a shallow depth of field and then continue to show products in your hands. They're never in focus, nor do they ever reach focus when you extend your arm out. Either increase your aperture or just stick to using your beautiful b-roll footage where needed so that it accompanies the footage of you (without products) and then continues over as V/O through the B-roll. You do this very well. Watch the video back with what I've told you especially when you're comparing it to a camera 03:34. I can't see either of them clearly.
Just a tip I thought I'd share. I think it's better if we are honest and look to help one another grow. Again, I'm a fan and would love for you to be the best you can be.
Take care pal. Hope I won the competition for the a7siii small rig. 😂
13:14 LOL I did that today for some b-roll and the lens rolled of the table! :o Luckly, there was a thick carpet there to save it so no damage done.
I just got the 7iii and love love love love it. The 7C looks too small for my taste and the look of the 7iii makes me feel like a pro
Lol same but still don’t know what to get 🥺
@@optimuscunt7746 I don't regret one bit :) I love the a7iii
same as me, but ill go for the 7iii
hm they price is identical XD
if you have sony a7siii which is better as secondary camera more for photos or streaming?
btw samyang lens is sharp for the price, though some of them does not have weather seal but I mean can you complain for 250 usd getting sharp wide angle lenses? Compared to 28-70mm i used for a long time, it is day n night sharper, more compact and simply better. Just use it as placeholder to save for lens you really want
Hello is A7C support Vertical Grip?
hey man! do you use a filter for your highlights? they look quite soft and dreamy
Diffusion filters have been living on my lenses for the past 6 months!
@@chrisbrockhurst thanks for the response! Is that tiffen pro mist?
We know you know who it's for. It's for vloggers/ YouTUbers which aren't handling the camera. It goes on the Joby Gorilla Pod. You hit record and there you go.
I wouldn’t spend that much on it for a RUclips camera.
right when I buy the a7iii literally less than 2 hours ago you post this...
give it a watch, you wont be annoyed.
@@chrisbrockhurst great video and review Chris! Now I don’t feel as guilty for not buying the a7c lol.
I just bought mine yesterday and it should arrive tomorrow but this video did not change a single thing for me. A7C for the price still makes no sense to me.
I never got why the a7III had only two custom slots on the mode dial. My a7RIII has three and it came out before the a7III. I don't see how a third one would be some fundamental drag on the hardware, nor do I see adding it as something that would undercut sales of more expensive models, but I'm not an expert so take that as you may lol.
hey Chris, do you think a7c could be a a7sIII B-camera ? this one is 8bit right ? is the difference will be huge that you can't use it as B-camera ? is atomos ninja would resolve the (no dual Sd card slot and) 8bits restriction ?
Does the a7c have a joy stick?
The giro stabalisation is the feature that I find interesting. Id love to see you do a video on it.
If I was going to buy one it would probably be with the 17 28 Tamron to keep it compact and relatively lightweight.
But the processing time is too long
I’m gonna to try it out soon!
Happy with my A7III.
Hi. Can you get some a7c footages to download in 4k and 1080p 120 fps in S-Log and HLG with a face in the frame? I wanna check the new color science and the quality of Full HD image.
Do you ever plan to shoot f1.8 glass wide open outdoors and hate using ND filters ? Then stay away from A7C as it has max shutter speed 1/4000 wich is too slow even at ISO50 in sunny outdoors.
Are you still using the R6? I don’t remember seeing any updates on that
This is not a camera to change a7iii, I want to buy this camera cz i love a6500 size, from long ago i want a ff camera but i hate the size cz mainly i use it for traveling, now i sold all of my a6500 camera and lens already put an order for the a7c and come the begining of December 👌🏻 just share my opinion
does the a7c autofocus work with adapted canon mount lenses or sigma lenses? I'm thinking of getting this with the sigma mc-11
AF-C generally won't work great with adapted lenses, no matter what lens or adapter you use. At least, that's my finding. But for photo, depending on what you do, AF-S could work pretty decent. I believe there are a lot of videos about this on YT.
I got 2 A7iii already. Think that's enough..haha!
For pro video, what your recomendation a7iii or a7c??
A7C is slightly better for video.
Better AutoFocus in video
No recording limits
Improved color science
Flippy Screen
People in Japan are found of it as far as sales are concerned
A7iii now cost $1,698 usd in usa
Can you do a quick test or at least reply to this comment about charging by USB and if you can charge and stream with this camera and other various useful I need to get a really small travel camera which one do it all.
Please tell me how I can I childhood where are you speak can I charge on stream for six hours ?
Any affordable wide lens to pair with a7c?
Look at Samyang 14mm 2.8 AF
Samyang is the most affordable one. If you like Batis, you can grab one in the used market.
@@chrisbrockhurst thank you, I will try to grab one
@@thienloI'm not a big fan of Zeiss due to their appearance tbh. Already got a 24-70GM but I think I should sell it for a tamron 28-75 for ergonomic purposes.
Why did you laugh when you said it had a good set of flaps?! 😜😂😂🤣
No idea what your talking about 😂
Video autofocus much better than a7iii
A lot of people want the rangefinder A6000 series style -it sold loads but who wants a crap low res LCD AND a crap EVF on a camera for that much $$. Sony are mean and lazy. Battery life is not an excuse it is class leading already.
Recoil/ shutter shock is a bad thing to have..
A7III no matter what.
why bro?
One SD card slot = absolute deal breaker/no thank you.
Agreed!
The camera no one asked for. Even better lets take away the second card slot!
😂
I don't get why so many people keep saying they don't know who this is for...
- Better AF
- Articulating Screen
- Upgraded colors
- Better design (Flaps are more solid and headphone jack isn't in the way of the display)
- IBIS + Catalyst Browse
- Screen doesn't black out
I feel in every way besides ergonomics and custom buttons its better than the A7iii. Both solid options but there is absolutely a lane for the A7C.
1 card slot + 1 custom button make this camera not practical for a lot of people. Myself included
@@chrisbrockhurst Yeah when it comes to professional work there are some flaws but someone who wants to get into full frame with an articulating screen which is highly favored, thats where the A7C fits. Practical for alot of people out there.
it's clearly tailored for video shooters rather than photographers.
Flaps.
everyone loves a good set of flaps.
Man you missed so many points of this camera :/ but it’s more of a video camera.
Only if it had 10bit 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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