I think Bob may have misspoke when describing the switch for ohm load... the bottom would be 2 ohm, 4 +4 ohm cabinet. He said the middle setting would a 8 ohm with a 4 ohm, that would be the top switch setting according my owners manual and amp. The middle setting is for 8 ohm or 4 ohm. Anyways I love Bob and GK!
Nice. I have an MB Fusion 800 and a Legacy 500. The MB Fusion is my main "clean" amp and I use the Legacy for the distortion in a progressive metal band. My tone has been described as "thick, brutal" and "sounds like a bulldozer or a nuclear reactor"
So glad you made this video! Absolutely love this amp, have the 410 combo. Now I can understand it's features much better to get the most out of playing it
@@Gallien-Krueger I do. I think. Just concerned I won’t make the right choice. I wanna buy once and be done. I’ve spent over 20yrs years playing through average gear. I’m ready to step my game up and buy pro equipment My Sweetwater rep says the legacy is the best selling amp. I wonder why. Thoughts? I would think the fusion would be the go to because of tubes. Guess I’m wrong again lol. Both are in my sweetwater cart. Just gotta figure out the one. Thanks.
@@hardway1746 That maybe, but consider the Fusion S 1200 are hard to find because they sell out so quickly. I was on the waiting list until they were restocked.Finally got mines shipped, and now they are out of stock again.Can't go wrong either way . Good luck
Bought the 1200 fusion head, 2x12 and 1x15 Neo cabs. Sounds good. The cabs don’t come with slip covers. Disappointing considering how expensive they are.
So I currently run a 1001rb into the older neo series 212/115 stack. One thing I really like is the biamp with the head, is that still a feature in these newer models?
Thanks for making such a comprehensive video. I'm rather new to bass amps and such. I don't like wasting money on inferior products. I'm not gigging, yet, still in the learning process. Which amp/cabinet or combo would you recommend at this stage? Thanks
The Legacy 500 or 800 with a CX 210 or CX 410 would be a great rig to start with. It would be able to handle any practice situation and most gig situations. If a combo is more your speed, you can't go wrong with the MB 212!
@@Gallien-Krueger Thank you for the reply. I had similar thoughts, but $100 more for the 800 watts seems a better value. Any other reason for getting the 500 watt? Why the cx cab over the neo?
@@barondavis5692 we would recommend the 800, only reason for the 500 is if you just don't ever think you'll need the extra headroom/volume and wanted to save a little
@@barondavis5692 Also regarding the cabs, the CX are just more affordable if you are looking for a beginner kind of rig, the NEO cabs are amazing though, so if you want to just go with a pro rig right away the NEO IV 410 and Legacy 800 would get you there!
I recently purchased a slightly used Fusion 500S and I am loving the flexibility of the tone variations that I am able to get out of it with my upright acoustic bass or any of my passive or active bass guitars. It is absolutely wonderful. I have a problem with the footswitch. As soon as I insert a a known good mono cable (2-conductor tip/sleeve 1/4" plug) into the footswitch jack the amp instantly switches to the overdrive channel regardless of if the footswitch is connected to the other end of the cable. With the footswitch connected, the LED on the switch toggles off and on, but does not switch channels on the amp. Is there a special cable required for the footswitch? I have emailed GK Customer Service twice regarding this but have not heard back. Thanks for this video.
Don’t know if GK will still be reading these comments a year on but if anyone else out could advise that would be really helpful too. I’m looking at getting the Fusion 1200S head with the Neo IV 212 4ohm and 112 8ohm cabs. My question is, that cab config would have a 2.7ohm load so the head would put out 950watts. My concern is that the 112 is only rated to 400watts and I wouldn’t want to risk damaging it. For context, I will be running the rig at high volume hence the relevance to my question. This will not be me tinkering at low volumes in my bedroom! So is the 112 at risk of overload is my question? Cheers
The NEO IV 112 will handle that rig just fine! The Fusion 1200S has two power amps, so you will be putting the NEO IV 212 into one channel drawing about 600 watts and the NEO IV 112 into the other channel drawing about 300 watts. It's actually the perfect setup for that amp since each speaker will be putting out roughly 300 watts. Let us know if you have any other questions!
Got the rig now and gigging it. Really impressed with it. Build quality is first class. Sound quality is amazing. And it really does have enough power for any situation. Plus it’s tiny compared to all the other heads I’ve owned. The cabs are equally as good. I’m getting compliments from audience members on how it sounds and how it looks too. Thanks for such a great product.
I have the 1200s model and the chassis gets hot to the touch while the unit is on. Even if I am not playing anything through it. It is not hot enough to burn you but hotter than warm. Is this normal?
How many people in GK understand what Bob is talkin about??? Guys! Legacy! come on! Do something before he sails off to Greece on his yacht indefinitely.
YUK. Absolute YUK. There was not one solitary moment where I thought, Gees that sounds almost ok. Each and every adjustment made me want to cringe. Like chomping down on a roll of tin foil. Harsh I know but that's where I'm at with Class D amps. I'm simply more interested in the tone shaping abilities they do not produce. All the efficiency of today's technology, its lightweight, compact, glorious advancements are completely negated by such sterile, overly hifi preamp sections.
@Gallien-Krueger That's all well and good. Alas, I'm only concerned with my sound for my conditions and regardless of what others use or how popular they are, the amp still sounds like crap to me.
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Just bought the Fusion S800 for Memorial Day 23 Robert 🍻 This video sold me on the amp.
Awesome! We hope you love it!
Really enjoyed hearing about all the quality and features from you.
Bob! ....thank you for giving us amazing ways to express ourselves, amazing moments in my live playing your amps 😍
I think Bob may have misspoke when describing the switch for ohm load... the bottom would be 2 ohm, 4 +4 ohm cabinet. He said the middle setting would a 8 ohm with a 4 ohm, that would be the top switch setting according my owners manual and amp. The middle setting is for 8 ohm or 4 ohm. Anyways I love Bob and GK!
Yup... Agreed... My 800S comes in tomorrow and I was reviewing this video... ;)
I have the 1001-RB, Legacy 800 and Fusion S 800. The Fusion S has become my go to amp.
We appreciate the support and happy to hear the Fusion S is at the top of your list!
Nice. I have an MB Fusion 800 and a Legacy 500. The MB Fusion is my main "clean" amp and I use the Legacy for the distortion in a progressive metal band. My tone has been described as "thick, brutal" and "sounds like a bulldozer or a nuclear reactor"
So glad you made this video! Absolutely love this amp, have the 410 combo. Now I can understand it's features much better to get the most out of playing it
That's amazing and the exact reason we wanted to make these videos!
This is the video I’ve been looking for!! Thank you!!🙏🏽🙏🏽
Awesome!
Thank you! You have answered all of my questions! I appreciate the time you put into this!
That is what we love to hear, thanks for watching!
Thank You for the demonstration Bob & Forrest, I Love my GK amps & cabinets & my Plex as well ! 😀 👍
Great products.
Thanks for watching!
@@Gallien-Krueger You're welcome, I really enjoy your watching your videos, so well done & informative. 😀
That amp is brilliant! 💚 love all features
Thank you!
Torn between the Fusion 800 and the Legacy 800. Can’t make up my mind. Help. lol. I’m ready to purchase. Gonna order the 2x12 neo cab with.
Can't go wrong with either! Basically you have to ask yourself if you want tubes or not!
@@Gallien-Krueger I do. I think. Just concerned I won’t make the right choice. I wanna buy once and be done. I’ve spent over 20yrs years playing through average gear. I’m ready to step my game up and buy pro equipment My Sweetwater rep says the legacy is the best selling amp. I wonder why. Thoughts? I would think the fusion would be the go to because of tubes. Guess I’m wrong again lol. Both are in my sweetwater cart. Just gotta figure out the one. Thanks.
@@hardway1746 That maybe, but consider the Fusion S 1200 are hard to find because they sell out so quickly. I was on the waiting list until they were restocked.Finally got mines shipped, and now they are out of stock again.Can't go wrong either way . Good luck
Bought the 1200 fusion head, 2x12 and 1x15 Neo cabs. Sounds good. The cabs don’t come with slip covers. Disappointing considering how expensive they are.
Beautiful amp
So I currently run a 1001rb into the older neo series 212/115 stack. One thing I really like is the biamp with the head, is that still a feature in these newer models?
If this had a power switch on the front I'd buy one. It would be a huge pain trying to turn it on or off when mounted in a rack
Leave the GK power switch in the "On" position, and power it up with a rack mounted Furman power conditioner.
How would the 800 fusion head work with your 1x15 neo cab? Studio use
That's a great combination! It would work well live and in the studio!
Thanks for making such a comprehensive video. I'm rather new to bass amps and such. I don't like wasting money on inferior products. I'm not gigging, yet, still in the learning process. Which amp/cabinet or combo would you recommend at this stage? Thanks
The Legacy 500 or 800 with a CX 210 or CX 410 would be a great rig to start with. It would be able to handle any practice situation and most gig situations. If a combo is more your speed, you can't go wrong with the MB 212!
@@Gallien-Krueger Thank you for the reply. I had similar thoughts, but $100 more for the 800 watts seems a better value. Any other reason for getting the 500 watt?
Why the cx cab over the neo?
@@barondavis5692 we would recommend the 800, only reason for the 500 is if you just don't ever think you'll need the extra headroom/volume and wanted to save a little
@@barondavis5692 Also regarding the cabs, the CX are just more affordable if you are looking for a beginner kind of rig, the NEO cabs are amazing though, so if you want to just go with a pro rig right away the NEO IV 410 and Legacy 800 would get you there!
@@Gallien-Krueger Got it, my thoughts confirmed. Thanks again.
I recently purchased a slightly used Fusion 500S and I am loving the flexibility of the tone variations that I am able to get out of it with my upright acoustic bass or any of my passive or active bass guitars. It is absolutely wonderful. I have a problem with the footswitch. As soon as I insert a a known good mono cable (2-conductor tip/sleeve 1/4" plug) into the footswitch jack the amp instantly switches to the overdrive channel regardless of if the footswitch is connected to the other end of the cable. With the footswitch connected, the LED on the switch toggles off and on, but does not switch channels on the amp. Is there a special cable required for the footswitch? I have emailed GK Customer Service twice regarding this but have not heard back. Thanks for this video.
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Quick question - does the head come with a gig bag or carry case? I know the older Fusion heads did (or, at least one was available).
Can the Fusion S heads or combo amps use the DI out without speaker load???
Yup! You don't need a speaker load
do gk amps have any kind of built in hpf?
Don’t know if GK will still be reading these comments a year on but if anyone else out could advise that would be really helpful too.
I’m looking at getting the Fusion 1200S head with the Neo IV 212 4ohm and 112 8ohm cabs. My question is, that cab config would have a 2.7ohm load so the head would put out 950watts. My concern is that the 112 is only rated to 400watts and I wouldn’t want to risk damaging it. For context, I will be running the rig at high volume hence the relevance to my question. This will not be me tinkering at low volumes in my bedroom! So is the 112 at risk of overload is my question? Cheers
The NEO IV 112 will handle that rig just fine! The Fusion 1200S has two power amps, so you will be putting the NEO IV 212 into one channel drawing about 600 watts and the NEO IV 112 into the other channel drawing about 300 watts. It's actually the perfect setup for that amp since each speaker will be putting out roughly 300 watts. Let us know if you have any other questions!
@@Gallien-Krueger thanks so much for replying to me. This is great news. Better get on and order it all then.
@@0i-di absolutely! Cabinets should be coming back in stock shortly!
Got the rig now and gigging it. Really impressed with it. Build quality is first class. Sound quality is amazing. And it really does have enough power for any situation. Plus it’s tiny compared to all the other heads I’ve owned. The cabs are equally as good. I’m getting compliments from audience members on how it sounds and how it looks too. Thanks for such a great product.
@@0i-di great to hear, thanks!
Question does this amp require a load since it has tubes??
Nope!
I have the 1200s model and the chassis gets hot to the touch while the unit is on. Even if I am not playing anything through it. It is not hot enough to burn you but hotter than warm. Is this normal?
GK support got back to me and stated that the heat sinks are mated to the chassis to dissipate heat and this is normal.
How many people in GK understand what Bob is talkin about??? Guys! Legacy! come on! Do something before he sails off to Greece on his yacht indefinitely.
add more eq. graphic. parametric. but more tone shaping
Got damn that bassline got old
YUK. Absolute YUK.
There was not one solitary moment where I thought, Gees that sounds almost ok.
Each and every adjustment made me want to cringe. Like chomping down on a roll of tin foil.
Harsh I know but that's where I'm at with Class D amps. I'm simply more interested in the tone shaping abilities they do not produce.
All the efficiency of today's technology, its lightweight, compact, glorious advancements are completely negated by such sterile, overly hifi preamp sections.
This amp is currently being used in the live rigs of some of the biggest bands in the world... but go off 🤣
@Gallien-Krueger
That's all well and good. Alas, I'm only concerned with my sound for my conditions and regardless of what others use or how popular they are, the amp still sounds like crap to me.
Y’all could’ve found a better bass player. Respectfully
It took me a long time to find my tone with the 1001rb, now it's starting to take a dump on me and they discontinued it.