The simplistic view that creation entails a God, who as a supreme being, fashions one lesser being after another, and then allows or does not allow one thing after another to happen in his creation, was transcended long ago by more liberal, much more sophisticated forms of the faith. Yet this dead horse continues to be wailed on relentlessly by internet skeptics who fancy themselves as cutting edge. Evangelicals, who never moved beyond the literalism of bible worship, make easy--much too easy--targets. Why not tackle Kierkegaard or Tillich or Teilhard, to name only three very different, yet very serious, thinkers. Beware of any spokesperson for Christianity whose theology begins and ends with C.S. Lewis.
@@newtonfinn164 I don't care about any of that, as long as Christianity continues to diminish and be replaced by better ideas 😌 I was making a joke about the stinky trees that Dr Dan mentioned at the beginning of the episode. They smell bad 😹
Jacob didn't work a second seven years before marrying Rachel, he married Rachel a week (seven days) later, then worked the second seven years with both wives.
Hey guys. I can see you (the photo of you two), but I can't see you (where you two are in "live" form, if recorded, in interiors with mics present). What's up with that? But thanks for another great episode in any case.
*God wrestles Jacob* “Ok, you got me. I’m the one the ID people say is the omnipotent creator of space and time and the laws of physics. That doesn’t make me good at wrestling.”
"Yisra" in "Isra-El" connotes "put down, won the fight", not just "contended with". It's more like "Is going to overpower God". The point of the story is that it is making a clear contrast between the trickery Jacob is using and the idea of divine providence, where you're not supposed to do any of that. By doing that anyway, Jacob is, in effect, outwitting God's plan, and in that scene, where he sends his wife and children behind, this is the tensest moment of his life, where he finds if his gambles have paid off.
Jacob should have been 15 when Abraham died, but there is no interaction between Abraham and Jacob. In fact, Abraham never interacts with Isaac after the sacrifice scene in Genesis 22.
*Separate Patriarch stories woven* Jacob should have been 15 when Abraham died, but there is no interaction between Abraham and Jacob. In fact, Abraham never interacts with Isaac after the sacrifice scene in Genesis 22. For ages, See Genesis 21:5, 25:25, 35:28-29
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I set my washer to the Jacob Cycle. My clothes came out dirtier than they went in. 11:13
Amen to that!! LOL!
Oh -- and in the "Heroes...???" genre, you should add David as second only to Jacob in mean deceit and manipulation.
No loving god would create the Bradford pear tree 😞
The simplistic view that creation entails a God, who as a supreme being, fashions one lesser being after another, and then allows or does not allow one thing after another to happen in his creation, was transcended long ago by more liberal, much more sophisticated forms of the faith. Yet this dead horse continues to be wailed on relentlessly by internet skeptics who fancy themselves as cutting edge. Evangelicals, who never moved beyond the literalism of bible worship, make easy--much too easy--targets. Why not tackle Kierkegaard or Tillich or Teilhard, to name only three very different, yet very serious, thinkers. Beware of any spokesperson for Christianity whose theology begins and ends with C.S. Lewis.
@@newtonfinn164 I don't care about any of that, as long as Christianity continues to diminish and be replaced by better ideas 😌
I was making a joke about the stinky trees that Dr Dan mentioned at the beginning of the episode. They smell bad 😹
There is NOTHING more entertaining than a stoned Dan McClellan. 18:05
Jacob didn't work a second seven years before marrying Rachel, he married Rachel a week (seven days) later, then worked the second seven years with both wives.
Thank you.
I’m Glad you guyz exist . great work!
Can we talk about how poorly built that temple was that all of the load of the roof was borne by two pillars?
Hey guys. I can see you (the photo of you two), but I can't see you (where you two are in "live" form, if recorded, in interiors with mics present). What's up with that? But thanks for another great episode in any case.
*God wrestles Jacob*
“Ok, you got me. I’m the one the ID people say is the omnipotent creator of space and time and the laws of physics. That doesn’t make me good at wrestling.”
Do you think the Phillistines are the "sea people" Dan?
I won't be around for the response but it is a worthy thing for ponder.
Dan is brilliant
Are we having uploading issues again for the video?
"Yisra" in "Isra-El" connotes "put down, won the fight", not just "contended with". It's more like "Is going to overpower God". The point of the story is that it is making a clear contrast between the trickery Jacob is using and the idea of divine providence, where you're not supposed to do any of that. By doing that anyway, Jacob is, in effect, outwitting God's plan, and in that scene, where he sends his wife and children behind, this is the tensest moment of his life, where he finds if his gambles have paid off.
Isn't the killing of the lion supposed to connect Samson to Hercules?
Dan McClellan, what do you think was wrong with Leah's eyes?
Jacob should have been 15 when Abraham died, but there is no interaction between Abraham and Jacob.
In fact, Abraham never interacts with Isaac after the sacrifice scene in Genesis 22.
The whole sacrifice thing must have put a damper on their relationship. Family gatherings must have become uncomfortable.
@@meej33 “Have you heard any dictatorial voices recently, Dad?”
*”I would not wrestle a stranger till daybreak”* 16:14
Well _you_ just ruined your chances of ever becoming a biblical character!
*Separate Patriarch stories woven*
Jacob should have been 15 when Abraham died, but there is no interaction between Abraham and Jacob.
In fact, Abraham never interacts with Isaac after the sacrifice scene in Genesis 22.
For ages, See Genesis 21:5, 25:25, 35:28-29