@@rosscockcroft5662it seems to me they are trying to make the time it takes to get the guns camos closer to the time it takes to max the gun out. They also make u want to get the higher camos too by giving u few and bland options early
@felonies1600 incorrect... Lol I have never touched hardcore for a second... But I've many a grinded for camo... Ur dancing around the fact that people don't want to b forced to do something... So wat would u then say for the people like me that don't have the sheeple reaction to do something they don't want to do..? Explain us... Lol
@@zeebaka That's weird because Activision would make a lot of money if it was. They even have patents for it. But we all know they're not scummy enough to put that stuff in the game. They hate money. They just like paying millions of dollars to Demonware every year to create patents they'll never use
I found the camo grind to be easier in Core this year. In Hardcore I’m so focused on lining up the headshot that I end up missing out on kills because the enemy just has to tap me anywhere on the body and I’m dead. Unless it’s a map like Stakeout, then headshots are easy in Hardcore. But the map rotation is so damn stingy with that map. It’d be nice if they brought back Stakeout 24/7
@@TheRabidDeer Nope, there are quite a few guns that require 2 shots to kill to the head at certain ranges. Ace has covered a number of these in his gun guides.
One downside: I've died many times because I stopped shooting after landing 2-3 headshots. Just so trained at this point that was a "kill" that I need to re-train my brain on that feature....
It shouldn't be a feature because if you know in every sense that you got the kill and it doesn't happen, it's the games problem and that shit needs to be fixed. It's utterly pathetic if they get away with this. That's why I despise patching a game based on so called "Pro Players" is the dumbest thing in the world and utterly destroys games in the long run, it's one of the main reasons Overwatch failed spectacularly about halfway into it's life cycle. Too much comp focus utterly changing the whole design philosophy of games has sucked the life of many games I enjoyed.
I have the same problem, I switched to hardcore around the new MW era. The only time I play core is for the party modes like zombies, gun game, or prop hunt
Increase the multiplier for headshot damage, keep the recoil penalty and add an idle sway penalty so holding a headglitch isn't strong but snapping to the head is rewarded
@hoodz3316 this 💯💯 in the current state of the game, that barrel is useless because its purported use is being actively negated by lowered headshot damage. If they'd just make it do what it's supposed to do, we wouldn't need this video fr. Ace could have used his time on something better than having to explain why the devs are making headshots useless.
I think that Treyarch doesn't want the effectiveness of the CHF barrel to stack with the rapid fire so they have introduced the recoil penalty for the CHF barrel, but the change in a lower general headshot multiplier comes later in the balancing.
That or make the multipliers stronger so the recoil and range penalities are actually justified. Imo, it's fine that the base guns have weak headshot multipliers, but equipping the CHF barrel should make headshots significantly more effective. Like, only needing one or two headshots to connect to reduce shots to kill on the majority of guns.
@@hoodz3316 recoil penalty is fine but no idle sway penalty dude. the idle sway for all the weapons is already bad enough in this game combined with the visual shake
Ngl, the gunfights in BO6 is hella random and most of the time it feels like a coin-toss, sometime it gives me kill and sometime I just shoot marshmallow at enemies and they kill me. And this Headshot multiplier things makes it even worse cause you feel like you should get a kill after hitting someone with 2 Headshots yet you end up in the losing end. Off-topic but anyone else having tough time noticing enemies? Don't know what's the problem for me but sometimes some of the operators blends in so perfectly that it's tough to tell exactly where I got shot from. And because of supine prone, proned enemies are even tougher for me to notice, especially in Hardcare.
Absolutely, I swear some people are never even on my screen or they just blend in so well you can’t see where you’re being shot from. I’m 23 and have 20/20 vision…it’s bad in this game
I watched a short last night for bo6 and it literally showed enemies materialising after they got a kill with a bundle weapon. For example, the Blackcell weapons make people explode, if an enemy makes a teammate explode, that enemy becomes literally invisible for a around 2 seconds to the other guys. It's fucked
i'm definitely also having issues registering players and sometimes I'll be on a kill streak and out of nowhere there's an enemy right in front of me that caps me on the spot. i'm unsure if it's due to something in game or if my vision just sucks- but it hasn't always been like this.
yeah, idk, I just thought it was my terrible vision screwing me over. But ive definitely have noticed that i cant see proned people at all on the first 2-3 glances
Just remove the recoil penalty on the CHR barrel. High Caliber in old CODs didn’t have a recoil penalty and gave you 30-40% more headshot damage instead of the CHF 10-15% increase. And why do we balance so much crap around the “competitive” scene? These “pros” ban half the guns and attachments anyway.
Treyarch has historically been the competition-friendly studio for CoD--they put more emphasis on balance and are willing to trade in accessibility and casual fun in order to have a happier hardcore and competition scene.
@@HowManyToasters To be fair, I never said to increase the headshot damage. If we left the CHF where it is more guns would still take 2-3 headshots even with the barrel to help. In that case, I think a recoil penalty is overkill, unless they further increase the headshot damage in which case there should be a slight recoil and/or flinch penalty.
@@HowManyToastersbro get the fk out of here, headshots are suppose to be powerful, as your shooting a small target which takes skill, which separates you and the shit cnts
I think that Treyarch doesn't want the effectiveness of the CHF barrel to stack with the rapid fire so they have introduced the recoil penalty for the CHF barrel, but the change in a lower general headshot multiplier comes later in the balancing. I also feel like many of the automatic weapons in BO6 have pretty low initial recoil by default for hitting consecutive shots on an adjacent body part, so like if you're aiming and firing at the head first and you're likely to hit the head multiple times at close to medium range before the recoil kicks in. Probably another reason for them to target a general low headshot multiplier.
For those who don't know, the Australian/OCE servers have not been working properly for almost a week. Specifically, it seems that there is massive server congestion, meaning >90% of games are offloaded on to Asian servers, resulting in 150ms+ ping matches. This is an issue that is affecting EVERYONE in the region; just sort the subreddit by new. Treyarch have been completely silent for this for a week. A video about this topic would go a long way toward resolving the issue.
Servers you right for buying this game You know they don't fix cod games and you couldn't help yourself and bought bo6 Long may the Server issues continue
This also affects us on the Singapore servers as we get so clamped down by the lag compensation that tries to accommodate / adjust players who should be on Aussi servers that it also is practically unplayable for me as well when I have such players in the lobby. Could this also be 'deliberate', as it feels there are so few players are actually playing the game so they are desperately trying to fill lobbies?
Won't get any camos without them. Also it will improve your aim consistently hitting the head over the body. Ultimately making you a better player. So are they usless ??
Flinch is probably necessary on snipers but is just annoying on every other gun. Obviously if flinch is removed on all guns except snipers then that's a massive nerf to snipers so they would probably need a buff to their ads time and then that would probably just make the game more fun for everyone.
I think they have flinch balanced very well right now. No flinch at all would make snipers be incredibly overpowered. And if they only gave snipers flinch they’d be underpowered because it would make them feel so much worse than everything else in the game
Treyarch is completely wrong. Headshots should always be useful. The fact a dedicated attachment doesn’t even reduce the shots to kill with 1 headshot is absurd
Every gameplay developer decision in CoD nowadays is about about helping little Timmy Nothumbs to have a less horrifying experience. Just look at how they absolutely ruined the snipers to prevent quickscopers from going toe to toe with the full-auto sprayers. What a joke this franchise has become.
@@habijjj I'm gonna have to disagree. Pro players can aim for the head just fine, it's just that in B06 they seemingly don't like it that only one(?) rifle benefits from the headshot multiplier, which is also so easily activated by the flinch. The professionals want consistency, hence the always-returning Gentlemen's Agreement to avoid outliers that skews the match unfairly. Previous CoD titles handled headshots better.
@@habijjjactually it's for both lmao the way the game is designed the players that have the most fun are the bots and the pros or ultra sweats. The average player has got the Diddy treatment from cod since cold war.
its actually simple as fk, if you want to eliminate the flinch headshot make the gun flinch down or even off to the side instead of up. now its harder to line up a headshot. ezpz.
The Desync on this game is just so bad. Most lobbies i have 20-40 ping and i still feel like i get insa dead randomly. They really need to fix their netcode..
It's EOMM not desync. Pay attention to the players that do this. Normally they go negative by the end of the game. It's the game's cheap way of balancing the lobby by giving the noobs free kills against the skilled players. Happens all the time
BO6 is my first cod game in many years. I grew up playing COD starting with the original and played each game up until Ghosts came out. Shitty net code and packet loss in multi-player is nothing new. This is how all cod games have always been. Gotta have proper expectations with these games in order to have fun. The game is designed and made to be played as a casual arcade shooter, this game has never been oriented towards being a balanced competitive game.
Probably because there are only some guns have the high caliber (or even high caliber II), and only some guns have the rapid fire as well (there are one or two gun exceptions iirc).
It definitely makes the military camo grind.... Really weird. As well as Headies. Being set up on a crazy headglich is supposed to be dangerous with a headshot multiplier.
Yet here I sit with two golden weapons the xm4 and the Jackal PDW without even prestiging yet. I'm just getting to level 54 So I chopped this up into a skill issue
@@KaentukiTheFuki mmm yes and no. Skill issue yes, but that doesntmran their point is invalid. Headshots require more skill and should be rewarded accordingly. I know COD isn't exactly realistic, but having 4 shots to the head for a kill just feels mega arcade On a side note, if you want to grind headshots quicker play hardcore
This "competitive scene" argument is *so weak*. OG MW2 had a 1.4x headshot multiplier that still felt weak, when compared to other shooters like battlefield 3 and its 2x multiplier. Going for headshots is supposed to reward you, since it requires higher skill. In my actual opinion? This is due to omnimovement, mostly sliding. Sliding moves your model and puts your head right where your center of mass usually is when standing. Players who are used to aim there will get unintentional headshots on enemies who are sliding. So, in an effort to make headshots less punishing to those using sliding/omnimovement, they nerf headshots.
@@Reginald_Harrison No they mix all players with each other. It's very common for above average players to have to carry a team full of Timmys... & if the Timmys are on the other team, they get extra bullet damage against the good players and take like half a mag to kill. Oh uh I mean "desync"...
Yeah let's make all of the camo challenges headshot related, and then make headshots useless. This has got to be some of the worst gunplay/balancing in COD history.
I find the combination of average to bad headshot multipliers, the new omni movement system, and the worthlessness of the CHF barrel all make a bad game design slog to slow down your dark matter progress. There's no way this was done unintentionally.
@HardTahc But unfortunately there is a camo grind which is a big reason to why people play Multiplayer nowadays. The design philosophy goes completely against anyone actively aiming for the head to the point where anyone aiming center mass will win every time except with specific guns.
Well, it is from the same dev team who made an SMG with the special ability of having increased headshot multiplier in exchange for slow RoF and slow projectiles, and then still gave it a damage and headshot multiplier that didn't change the shots-to-kill at all so you were left with a low-DPS gun with 0 upsides. Nevermind playtesting, they don't even do the most basic of maths when balancing.
im a KB/M player and in this game it seems like the best way to alleviate the annoying camo grind is to just play hardcore. for the vast majority of guns its just a single tap to the head as opposed to having to track their head through recoil and flinch
I play HC to finish my double kill camo grinds.. HC is the onl 9:57 y time I score 3 head shot kills, core is usually 8 or 9. HC hit markers are awesome too though lol
I agree that some if not a majority of the reasons for weak headshots is pro play. Treyarch has typically been the most in tune with the cwl/cdl of the different teams. The problem with that though, (and I say this as someone who loves competitive cod) is that most of the pros are 1: heavily biased 2: very rarely objective in their criticisms and 3: are currently in a weird identity crisis where there HAS to be two Submachine guns per team and there HAS to be very specific stats on the AR
The thing is hardcore basically nullifies this. It’s a core issue and a really big one. But if you’re camo grinding the efficient way it should be a non issue
The only reason for useless headshot is to slown down the community on the camo grind and help player retention on the long run, that's it. Activision only cares about the data, they don't care about how it impacts the gameplay.
@@alexmason5521 I'm all about thinking critically and I 100% agree with Ace reasoning regarding why Treyarch would make these choices for the headshot and what they should do to improve them. But when you know Activision is behind all the decisions made for the game, how they usually operate and how important player retention is for their shareholders, this is the best reason business wise on why they nerfed the headshots like that. Maybe in February/march, they will do something for the headshots when they see in their data that the community is well advanced in the camo grind
@@alexmason5521 This guy is thinking 10 times more critically than Ace was in this video. Ace thinks statistically but probably more than anything else, whether what he says will get him in trouble with Activision. Gotta keep that bread buttered after all
@@alexmason5521 lol huh? thats the most logical conclusion, following the money and not being distracted by preconceived notions is the most critical thinking of all. cod isn't a game to activision it's purely a vehicle for revenue. they put more bundles than content in the game because that makes them more money. they put skill gap compressing elements into the game because it makes them more money, they put sbmm in the game because it makes them more money, they made these horrific maps because small killbox maps make them more money
You’re right they should listen to the shitters playing for 2 hours a day on their 70 inch tv in the living room. I’m sure MWII still had a player base, go play that.
I like what Cold War did to the flinch to mitigate the "luck" with headshot with eliminating real flinch (no movement in point of aim and only being a visual effect) in that scenario, if you want to get into heatshots, only your aiming and recoil control will judge the outcome of that gunfight, also it will aliviate the headglitching even more
Real They already do it for warzone, same guns same engine, why can't they do it for ranked Either that or just buff the CHF barrel anyway, those crybaby "pros" ban half the attachments and guns anyway in ranked so a buff to the headshot barrel would be irrelevant to those crybabies if they ban it anyway
@masonjack7741 not hard to figure out, but they are different games. No, the guns don't do the same damage as they do in battlefield, modern warfare, blackops2, counterstrike, or warzone 1/2, campaign etc.
That's part of the EOMM algorithm to retain casual players. (hears independent thought alarm) Oops I mean "desync". Just happens desync always benefits the worst players. Crazy coincidence
Here's my fix for this. I don't think they need to increase headshot damage in general just make the chf barrel better this way, people who actually have good aim and want to be rewarded for it. Throw the barrel on and it makes it worth it. And the others don't have to use it, and they can just play normal, but it shouldn't be so overpowered that when someone's using it you cant kill them hardly at all ya know
Sad that BLOPS 6 is going to get best multiplayer game of the year with how mid it's been right now. It could be great but it's barely hitting mid for me💀
One thing that gets missed in the discussions is that unlike the high caliber attachment from previous games, there’s an higher opportunity cost for CHF since it’s an attachment primarily competing against the long barrel which offers a far more consistent and important benefit in gunfights.
I am a sniper user and I've gotten at least 10 Headshot hitmarkers with the LR 7.62. Granted they were wallbangs but I even had fmj on a few of those occasions and it was through like Nuketown garage door. Dude a sniper headshot should never be a warning shot
do u want to be killed without a chance to move just cause someone chose to hit a random ahh wall. If u played siege u know how frustrating it is to have some random guy shoot a wall and get a wall bang headshot with zero intel
@@Xictliithats called getting lucky.. because it isn't consistent and you SHOULD be rewarded for guesstimating where they could be, just like how you're punished for missing
As a member of the competitive scene, it feels like we've been ignored more than ever. The competitive maps & modes are a mess; Ranked is at its worst, most of the issues being incredibly simple fixes. Weak headshots are nice, but I doubt comp is the reason they exist. No flinch would be prefered.
@@warwolf715 The real problem is flinch, which raises the receiver's point of aim, which results in accidental headshots. You can aim for the knee, but because your opponent hits shots into you, you end up getting a headshot. I'm sure you can understand how that's a problem if headshots are strong. Your opponent is punished for hitting shots into you.
@@Arctic3OD I pick up what you're putting down. I think flinch should be visual only. So your screen moves, but your point of aim doesn't move. So you still get flinched (should be removed imo anyways, it's just annoying full stop, but I can see it's purpose)
The only real weird gunfights are with the tsarkov so I really feel like it’s working to make it more consistent, while also on the other hand I like the idea of going back to higher multipliers having 26 guns diamonds so far
It is such an odd design choice. Headglitching being so strong has always been a problem with CoD, and the only downside to holding those angles was if you got hit you died fast. With headshot damage gone, it makes it so hard to contest these angles. Their intent may have been to make TTK more consistent, but this wasn't the way to do it.
I hated the MCW’s 1 headshot reduction to TTK last year, even though it made sense for balance in public matches. That said, I would’ve been fine with 3 out of 4 headshots reducing ttk, and 2 with an attachment. This requiring all headshots, or them not mattering at all is a definite L for me, even as a sweaty ranked player. My personal preference would probably be all but 1 headshot as a default, and all but 2 with the attachment, with potentially different or less punitive downsides.
@@truthdog1107I've been browsing the comments and the amount that you have left with this insane cope take is hilarious. Skill based damage isnt a thing, you are just coping with the fact a bad player sometimes kills you. You should take a break from cod if it makes you so upset you are spreading literal conspiracy theories
@@truthdog1107Ironic since you definitely heard someone else make up 'skill based damage' and jumped on the bandwagon. Weird how eager you are to believe something with no evidence rather than rightfully being skeptical
The reason headshots are weak are because headshots widen the skill gap. Activision want the skill gap as narrow as possible to cater to the casuals because that's how they make money.
they don't widen the skill gap at all, they do the opposite. lower damage headshots make it easier to deal max ttk for both parties and reduce inconsistency leading to an advantage to the better player who will more than likely shoot first. it's less likely for the better player to shoot first and die because the other guy hit a lucky flinch headshot
@@lemmingsftw2480 sorry but if one player can consistently hit headshots and the other can't, the former player is the better player, but currently that skill expression isn't in the game
@@CorrosiveCitrus well yeah obviously, not really what i'm talking about though. as it is now the player that shoots first and has better aim is the better player. the consistency makes it easier for better players to dominate worse ones without getting beamed in the head from someone who has been bad all game and just luckily aimed at the head without meaning it
The chf barrel is literally useless on all weapons except Tsarkov. Max health is 100. If you put the chf on the Tanto smg, its headshot damage from one bullet is above 50... but it still remains a 3 shot kill weapon even in point black range. So even when MATH says yes, Treyarch says no!
with the very unpredictable movement, shouldn't it be MORE rewarding to get headshots compared to other games instead of less? Crits are such a big thing in FPS games, why did they have to minimize it?
They really should remove flinch from regular guns. It’s not a fun or engaging mechanic, frequently not doing much other than shaking your screen more, while adding a bit of inconsistency. And like you said, it flinches people into headshots.
Been a problem since launch and it’s still not fixed? This is why I quit the game when season 1 dropped. They just ignore us when we tell them there are game breaking problems. They don’t care about us
the CHF barrel could also do what similar barrels did in vanguard: substantially reduce bodyshot damage, substantially improve headshot damage. Hit two headshots in a row or you get a poor TTK, for example.
The head glitching/headshots not counting problem also adds to the numerous spawn issues & how easy it is to spawn trap whole lobbies. It’s almost impossible to break out of certain map spawns because an entire team will just sit & head glitch into the spawns & those getting spawn trapped have virtually no counter to that
This might go against a lot of people but I’m fine with headshots being weak. And this is because I think the vast majority of headshots ever hit in call of duty have been complete accidents. For good or bad players, the natural instinct is to aim for center mass and this is overall the right choice. Flinch/recoil/just “accidentally” aiming at the head has probably caused way more headshots than deliberately aiming at the head. I think the CHF barrel needs a buff tho. Making the choice to use this attachment and making headshots a purposeful part of your play style is a completely different situation.
I agree with this. I do agree with headshots should matter but it’s also annoying to be first on target and lose the gunfight because the flinch knocks up to the head
yeah i love the current balance, gunfights feel really readable. While I am not fully against Ace's idea, I prefer what we have now. I also didn't find going for headshots for dark matter hard either, as someone who did 95% of the grind in core.
so you basically agree that the issues is not headshots but the shitty flinch mechanic.... cool, now just adapt your reasoning to headshots going back to normal and they just removing the trash ass flinch mechanic.
the "natural instinct" comes from headshots being useless. You can watch people who have played other FPS games swap to CoD and have to force themselves to *not* aim for head because that's *their* "natural instinct"
In my opinion, I think I am fine with headshots being much less useful in the maximum damage range. In those cases, you have movement to help you outplay other players, plus it prevents those luck flinch headshots from reducing the ttk too much. However, in further damage ranges, where you might be fighting someone who is headglitching, these are the scenarios where I think headshots should be helping you. At further ranges, movement becomes much less of an impact on those gunfights as even if you do a quick slide, it is still only a small amount to move your aim to trace the enemy. Plus, when fighting at further ranges, the flinch will likely move you off target more often, as the enemy is a smaller target anyways. So at these further ranges, you should be able to reduce your shots required against a headglitching opponent as a method of countering the headglitch and rewarding accuracy. I do think in this case the damage ranges of the ARs would likely need to be adjusted with this philosophy, because as it stands with only 2 ranges in most cases, the minimum damage range is just too far for this change to really be reasonable for most gun-fights. We might need a middle damage range where we see this impacted more. I think for me personally, this is a good balance because of many reasons: - You don't have potential crazy fast ttk up close and it remains consistent even with omni-movement - Skill is still rewarded as movement is an option up close. - Headshots are still useful - It gives a strong option of countering headglitches - Up close movement is rewarded, further away better accuracy is rewarded, so different playstyles get rewarded in different ways and if someone is an all-around player, they have the ability to prove that at different ranges. With all of that said, the CHF barrel is a whole other balancing challenge. I agree that it should typically be making headshots a lot stronger than it does now, because it is generally not worth running.
Would love to see a video on tips to get the second rocket launcher camo grind done easier. No lock-on and requiring so many scorestreaks to get gold and further, not including just getting regular kills.
Previous COD games didn't penalize the headshot attachments nearly as hard, and the benefit was greater. I want the CHF buffed but I'm not sure what the solution would be to keep it from being the de-facto barrel given that every attachment this year is purely bonus, but maybe penalizing range and bullet velocity instead of recoil to make it a direct sacrifice vs. the other barrels that improve it.
Agreed! Just another handicap to make little Timmy keep playing and spending money on mommy's credit card. COD can barely be classified as a game at this point 😕
Pros actually favor this change. Headshot multipliers increase the chance of random flinch headshots, lowering the skill gap. No actual good player/pro ever aims for headshots.
@@justinbieber3697pros are playing a completely different game than you and I. And you just admitted that it’s the stupid flinch mechanic that’s the issue and not accidental headshots. Make headshots have an impact again and reduce flinch it’s literally that simple
@@justinbieber3697 yeah, that's interesting with cod tbh. Every other game, headshots are a kill (as it should be..) headshots offer a trade off, high reward for hitting, but harder to hit. Thus you are punished ir rewarded according to how consistent your aim is.. in other games like counter strike anyways. Just feel silly pumping 3 7.62mm rounds into someone's head just for them to slide towards you and hipfire kill you lmao
Somebody else had the Problem, that when you pick up a reconcontract, it doesnt‘t Show the Place where you have to go? Or when you pick up a bounty, but the Hostile is literally on the other side of the map
I don’t think that low headshot damage is a bad thing. If we are all honest headshots kills come from luck in a gunfight unless you have your crosshairs super high and going for headshots. Good players aim for the body and land their shots. Dying to someone who got a lucky headshot on you is dumb and lowers the skill gap. Having to hit your shots on target and not get lucky is better for the game. 2:00
Fair take I think it should be increased to reward the people with the skill to actually hit the headshots it’s abit inconsistent that I shoot someone in the head and it does the same damage as if i shoot their toes and the barrel that increases the headshot damage is terrible because of the lack of recoil control it creates that’s just my take tho
You HAVE to be a bot, i can't fathom that someone would suggest headshots aren't a skilled approach. Play literally any other game like idk, counter strike, where you're a bad play for aiming body. M4 is 2 headshots, 4 body. It just sucks if you're bad and can't land headshots lol
@@warwolf715 that’s not how cod is played tho. With the fast paced action you don’t have time to aim for the head. And games like CSGO and Valorant are diffrent games compared to cod. If you aim for the head every gun fight your ultimately going to lose to the guy aiming for the chest and hitting his shots.
I just got this game yesterday and now I see why it feels so off to go for headshots and why it feels like I kill enemies just as fast with leg shots as I do with headshots. My first CoD since Ghosts so I have a lot of catch up on haha
With the SVD I often had that weird thing that I landed a one shot kill to the chest (even in slowmo you could clearly see that it was to the chest), then i flinched from getting shot and then it counted as a headshot. I can't explain what happened
it hurts the most on mnk tbh, ive been playing cod for decades now on pc and have been going primarily for headshots in every title and its hard to break that habit i think reducing flinch/kick on automatic weapons specifically would make more sense along with increasing the headshot multiplier to 1.3x across the board
So the thing I found with the ranger foregrip (ads focus) it was a lot easier for me to get headshots. I got 8 headshot kills last night with CHF, recoil springs and the focused ads.
My solution to this problem: Make a separate damage zone for the head where only shooting the center point of the head will 1-shot kill. Hitting the very corner of the head will act more like a “graze” rather than deal significant damage.
Wanted to say thanks for the Audio video earlier. I would never have thought turning off enhanced is better! I absolutely hear better direction turning it off. Makes no sense. I’m on ps5 pro using inzone Sony earbuds.
I completely agree, like you mentioned yourself, legitimate balance reasons aside, at the end of the day, it simply FEELS wrong and unsatisfying. Btw, I would love to see a video on the Enforcer perk tree and how unsatisfying it feels compared to the other two, especially in tier 1. Alternatively, a video on the state of perks in general would be great!
I think the lack of a huge headshot damage increase balances the game. Cheaters don't have a huge advantage and lower skill players have a chance against high skill players.
They should just made flinch go in a random direction so it's not usually going to help you hit a headshot (or even upperbody). Make the flinch less intense overall but it could go left, right, up, down, or a mix in between
I was crying just trying to do the Goblin's 100 headshots. I camped at either kitchens on stakeout with the CHF barrel for half of the kills, and the effective range for the goblin's headshot multiplier to be any bit of meaningful was just out of range. It was absolute hell trying to do it, and when I finally finished it, I have never felt at more peace to n00btube for the two challenges. The goblin sucks so much ass. Maybe fixing the headshot multiplier would improve quite a bit of the gun.
I think that many of the automatic weapons in BO6 also have pretty low initial recoil by default for hitting consecutive shots on an adjacent body part, so like if you're aiming and firing at the head first and you're likely to hit the head multiple times at close to medium range before the recoil kicks in. Probably another reason for them to target a general low headshot multiplier.
Also the hit box for head shots is very inconsistent like sometimes they don't count unless it's to the upper head so if you shoot in the jaw it won't count as a headshot don't know if anyone else has seen this problem but it's as though you have to shoot specifically in the upper head for kills to register as a headshot sometimes
I agree it feels weird that headshots don’t improve TTK, but I do enjoy that it places more importance on positioning and reduces the luck of flinching into a headshot. Maybe a way to reward a headshot kill is a bonus to score streaks?
Anyone else kinda miss the tactical mode from infinite warfare? Health values weren’t changed at all but the headshots from weapons were hyper lethal. Really rewarded good aim
I think instead of reducing accuracy, the CHF barrel should reduce mobility. Reduce sprint to fire, slide to fire, dive to fire, and ADS speed for a meaningful increase in headshot damage.
I just got BO6 after they put the cross gen bundle on sale and instantly noticed how headshots were so weak. I made the personal decision to grind camos on hardcore. That's usually what ive done with weaker gun classes in the past anyways.
only way to balance headshots without changing the flow of combat this year would be to keep everything as is and remove the drawbacks of CHF barrel so it has space to shine within the current game balance
I've been grinding headshots on and off in MP because I'm spending most of my time going for the zombies camos lately, and man.... It is so frustrating having situations where I get a body hit marker and two headshot hit markers and still don't kill the guy, let alone get a headshot kill to progress the challenge. Hardcore it is, I guess.
Biggest benefits I saw from chf barrell or rapid fire was the added recoil. Think you touched on it but it's helped my luck with headshots due to bounce. Strange way to do it but it worked for me
I think the ttk consistency is great! Plus it counters those times where you shoot first and die due to the enemy’s flinch causing them to headshot you! I think 2-3 headshots giving one less to kill is a great spot
I do agree that with the omnimovement having the more consistent time to kill is nice, along with the fact that headshots seem to often come from accident more than intent. Even as a slightly above average player (1.7-2kd) I find most of the time my headshots aren't purposeful, I am just trying to hit center mass chest area and attempting to control the guns recoil gives me a free headshot. I do agree with the point of the camo grind being headshots when they aren't meaningful is dumb. I wouldn't mind seeing the CHF barrel improved to where in most scenarios in max damage range with an SMG or AR you only need to hit 1 headshot in the max damage range to improve TTK, but in no situation should it reduce your shots to kill by 2.
I've personally stopped grinding for camos this year and probably won't go after it again. I did it for the last 3 or 4 years and got high ranked, and all that fun stuff. But it just became an addiction and not fun. So I've stopped all camo grinds from this year on, and I no longer spend money
SMGs not having headshot potential by default actually makes sense. But everything else? It's a bit harsh. I get the idea but it's not without notable flaws.
My opinion; Keep SMG headshot damage the same, increase AR headshot back to 1.5-2x dmg. There, fixed, now I can counter those annoying SAUG players with a headshot lol
My opinion; Keep SMG headshot damage the same, increase AR headshot back to 1.5-2x dmg. There, fixed, now I can counter those annoying SAUG players with a headshot lol
It’s so bizarre they make the camo grind all about landing headshots but give hardly any gameplay incentive for aiming for the head.
It’s actually very obvious that they’ve made getting headshots more difficult so that you have to play for longer
@@rosscockcroft5662it seems to me they are trying to make the time it takes to get the guns camos closer to the time it takes to max the gun out. They also make u want to get the higher camos too by giving u few and bland options early
Especially for fucking shotguns and snipers like cmon man
every year the camo grind is done in hardcore anyway
@felonies1600 incorrect... Lol I have never touched hardcore for a second... But I've many a grinded for camo... Ur dancing around the fact that people don't want to b forced to do something... So wat would u then say for the people like me that don't have the sheeple reaction to do something they don't want to do..? Explain us... Lol
The only consistency in this game is the spawns constantly fucking you over
And bad players dropping you in 2 bullets. Also bad players tanking like half a mag
@@truthdog1107skill based damage isnt real, stop coping
@@zeebaka I love the schizo people still talking about that shit 💀
@@zeebaka That's weird because Activision would make a lot of money if it was. They even have patents for it. But we all know they're not scummy enough to put that stuff in the game. They hate money. They just like paying millions of dollars to Demonware every year to create patents they'll never use
hmm aight then so post the clips
Headshot hitmarkers in hardcore is actually driving me nuts with this camo grind.
How are you getting a headshot hitmarker in hardcore? Don't all guns 1 shot headshot in hardcore unless it is through something?
@TheRabidDeer depends on the gun and the range you're at mainly smgs are affected
I found the camo grind to be easier in Core this year.
In Hardcore I’m so focused on lining up the headshot that I end up missing out on kills because the enemy just has to tap me anywhere on the body and I’m dead.
Unless it’s a map like Stakeout, then headshots are easy in Hardcore. But the map rotation is so damn stingy with that map. It’d be nice if they brought back Stakeout 24/7
@@Reginald_Harrisonyou’re not gonna believe this
@@TheRabidDeer Nope, there are quite a few guns that require 2 shots to kill to the head at certain ranges. Ace has covered a number of these in his gun guides.
One downside: I've died many times because I stopped shooting after landing 2-3 headshots. Just so trained at this point that was a "kill" that I need to re-train my brain on that feature....
It shouldn't be a feature because if you know in every sense that you got the kill and it doesn't happen, it's the games problem and that shit needs to be fixed. It's utterly pathetic if they get away with this. That's why I despise patching a game based on so called "Pro Players" is the dumbest thing in the world and utterly destroys games in the long run, it's one of the main reasons Overwatch failed spectacularly about halfway into it's life cycle. Too much comp focus utterly changing the whole design philosophy of games has sucked the life of many games I enjoyed.
SAAAAAME^^^ such a bad habit lmao
DUDE SAME
I have the same problem, I switched to hardcore around the new MW era. The only time I play core is for the party modes like zombies, gun game, or prop hunt
same and is lazy on the devs part I prefer having bonuses to headshots. Rewards good aim.
CHF barrel needs to have it's downsides removed imo, the multiplier increase isn't worth harming recoil
Increase the multiplier for headshot damage, keep the recoil penalty and add an idle sway penalty so holding a headglitch isn't strong but snapping to the head is rewarded
@hoodz3316 this 💯💯 in the current state of the game, that barrel is useless because its purported use is being actively negated by lowered headshot damage. If they'd just make it do what it's supposed to do, we wouldn't need this video fr. Ace could have used his time on something better than having to explain why the devs are making headshots useless.
I think that Treyarch doesn't want the effectiveness of the CHF barrel to stack with the rapid fire so they have introduced the recoil penalty for the CHF barrel, but the change in a lower general headshot multiplier comes later in the balancing.
That or make the multipliers stronger so the recoil and range penalities are actually justified. Imo, it's fine that the base guns have weak headshot multipliers, but equipping the CHF barrel should make headshots significantly more effective. Like, only needing one or two headshots to connect to reduce shots to kill on the majority of guns.
@@hoodz3316 recoil penalty is fine but no idle sway penalty dude. the idle sway for all the weapons is already bad enough in this game combined with the visual shake
Ngl, the gunfights in BO6 is hella random and most of the time it feels like a coin-toss, sometime it gives me kill and sometime I just shoot marshmallow at enemies and they kill me.
And this Headshot multiplier things makes it even worse cause you feel like you should get a kill after hitting someone with 2 Headshots yet you end up in the losing end.
Off-topic but anyone else having tough time noticing enemies?
Don't know what's the problem for me but sometimes some of the operators blends in so perfectly that it's tough to tell exactly where I got shot from. And because of supine prone, proned enemies are even tougher for me to notice, especially in Hardcare.
Absolutely, I swear some people are never even on my screen or they just blend in so well you can’t see where you’re being shot from. I’m 23 and have 20/20 vision…it’s bad in this game
I watched a short last night for bo6 and it literally showed enemies materialising after they got a kill with a bundle weapon. For example, the Blackcell weapons make people explode, if an enemy makes a teammate explode, that enemy becomes literally invisible for a around 2 seconds to the other guys. It's fucked
The connection is trash. There have been many times when I mag dump someone just to be instantly killed by what was supposed to be 3 shots from an SVD
i'm definitely also having issues registering players and sometimes I'll be on a kill streak and out of nowhere there's an enemy right in front of me that caps me on the spot. i'm unsure if it's due to something in game or if my vision just sucks- but it hasn't always been like this.
yeah, idk, I just thought it was my terrible vision screwing me over. But ive definitely have noticed that i cant see proned people at all on the first 2-3 glances
Just remove the recoil penalty on the CHR barrel. High Caliber in old CODs didn’t have a recoil penalty and gave you 30-40% more headshot damage instead of the CHF 10-15% increase.
And why do we balance so much crap around the “competitive” scene? These “pros” ban half the guns and attachments anyway.
It would need stronger downsides, decreasing your ttk with 1 headshot is insanely powerful
Treyarch has historically been the competition-friendly studio for CoD--they put more emphasis on balance and are willing to trade in accessibility and casual fun in order to have a happier hardcore and competition scene.
@@HowManyToasters To be fair, I never said to increase the headshot damage. If we left the CHF where it is more guns would still take 2-3 headshots even with the barrel to help.
In that case, I think a recoil penalty is overkill, unless they further increase the headshot damage in which case there should be a slight recoil and/or flinch penalty.
@@HowManyToastersbro get the fk out of here, headshots are suppose to be powerful, as your shooting a small target which takes skill, which separates you and the shit cnts
I think that Treyarch doesn't want the effectiveness of the CHF barrel to stack with the rapid fire so they have introduced the recoil penalty for the CHF barrel, but the change in a lower general headshot multiplier comes later in the balancing.
I also feel like many of the automatic weapons in BO6 have pretty low initial recoil by default for hitting consecutive shots on an adjacent body part, so like if you're aiming and firing at the head first and you're likely to hit the head multiple times at close to medium range before the recoil kicks in. Probably another reason for them to target a general low headshot multiplier.
For those who don't know, the Australian/OCE servers have not been working properly for almost a week. Specifically, it seems that there is massive server congestion, meaning >90% of games are offloaded on to Asian servers, resulting in 150ms+ ping matches. This is an issue that is affecting EVERYONE in the region; just sort the subreddit by new. Treyarch have been completely silent for this for a week. A video about this topic would go a long way toward resolving the issue.
And the numerous calling card or trophies that don’t track or pop, and treyarch are again SHHHH (like their stupid winners circle says shhh)
I was wondering whats been happening to our servers , I usually play on 13 ping but last few days its been anywhere from 140+ its basically unplayable
Servers you right for buying this game
You know they don't fix cod games and you couldn't help yourself and bought bo6
Long may the Server issues continue
If youre dogshit just say youre dogshit @everyone1liesd459
This also affects us on the Singapore servers as we get so clamped down by the lag compensation that tries to accommodate / adjust players who should be on Aussi servers that it also is practically unplayable for me as well when I have such players in the lobby.
Could this also be 'deliberate', as it feels there are so few players are actually playing the game so they are desperately trying to fill lobbies?
Headshots are worthless
yet we need 100 for each gun to grind camos
On most guns. Not all.
@@TonyWa1kercamo challenges aren’t supposed to be easy.
@@TonyWa1ker FRRRR
Won't get any camos without them. Also it will improve your aim consistently hitting the head over the body. Ultimately making you a better player. So are they usless ??
Flinch causing lucky headshots isn't a headshot problem it's a flinch problem..... flinch has always been stupid imo
The truth
Flinch is probably necessary on snipers but is just annoying on every other gun. Obviously if flinch is removed on all guns except snipers then that's a massive nerf to snipers so they would probably need a buff to their ads time and then that would probably just make the game more fun for everyone.
I think they have flinch balanced very well right now. No flinch at all would make snipers be incredibly overpowered. And if they only gave snipers flinch they’d be underpowered because it would make them feel so much worse than everything else in the game
An easy fix to the flinch is just to have it on snipers and marksman rifles
Nah there’s no need for lucky headshots, no one goes for head shots to kill faster, it’s always luck. We don’t need that bs
Treyarch is completely wrong. Headshots should always be useful. The fact a dedicated attachment doesn’t even reduce the shots to kill with 1 headshot is absurd
Every gameplay developer decision in CoD nowadays is about about helping little Timmy Nothumbs to have a less horrifying experience. Just look at how they absolutely ruined the snipers to prevent quickscopers from going toe to toe with the full-auto sprayers. What a joke this franchise has become.
@randomcomment1105 its the exact opposite its to appease the ranked/pro players.
@@habijjj I'm gonna have to disagree. Pro players can aim for the head just fine, it's just that in B06 they seemingly don't like it that only one(?) rifle benefits from the headshot multiplier, which is also so easily activated by the flinch. The professionals want consistency, hence the always-returning Gentlemen's Agreement to avoid outliers that skews the match unfairly. Previous CoD titles handled headshots better.
@@habijjjactually it's for both lmao the way the game is designed the players that have the most fun are the bots and the pros or ultra sweats. The average player has got the Diddy treatment from cod since cold war.
its actually simple as fk, if you want to eliminate the flinch headshot make the gun flinch down or even off to the side instead of up. now its harder to line up a headshot. ezpz.
The Desync on this game is just so bad. Most lobbies i have 20-40 ping and i still feel like i get insa dead randomly. They really need to fix their netcode..
It's EOMM not desync. Pay attention to the players that do this. Normally they go negative by the end of the game. It's the game's cheap way of balancing the lobby by giving the noobs free kills against the skilled players. Happens all the time
@@truthdog1107 take ur meds bro, im praying for you 🙏
@@asdfghjkl2261 I'm not your bro, don't waste your prayers
Must be nice mine is always 200 ms ping plus
BO6 is my first cod game in many years. I grew up playing COD starting with the original and played each game up until Ghosts came out.
Shitty net code and packet loss in multi-player is nothing new. This is how all cod games have always been. Gotta have proper expectations with these games in order to have fun.
The game is designed and made to be played as a casual arcade shooter, this game has never been oriented towards being a balanced competitive game.
I HATE this. I will lose fights because I took time to shoot for the head while the other person is just throwing bullets at me and hits my toe.
Yup
Guess you should stop aiming for the head then huh
@@grilledleeks6514 Did you forget about camos? The only reason anyone plays this shit
@@grilledleeks6514 Yeah, he should play with less skill and just spray bullets, much more interesting that way.
Listen to yourself, lol
Unless you’re going for camos there’s literally no reason to specifically aim for headshots. In no cod has that ever been the ideal way to play
I remember most gun in bo4 had a useless headshot multiplier too but the high caliber attachment actually worked
Probably because there are only some guns have the high caliber (or even high caliber II), and only some guns have the rapid fire as well (there are one or two gun exceptions iirc).
It definitely makes the military camo grind.... Really weird. As well as Headies. Being set up on a crazy headglich is supposed to be dangerous with a headshot multiplier.
I would say that some of my headshots aren’t headshots, but some of my non headshots looked a lot like a headshot
Just play hardcore? Why are you playing normal mp for headshot camos? That makes no sense.
@@William1683BT this grind has made hardcore so boring. Everybody is just holding angles and every game reaches the time limit
@@PlatfootNL Well it’s the fastest and easiest way to unlock camos, the camo grind isn’t supposed to be fun, headshots are useless in core mp.
@@William1683BT why shouldn't it be fun? It makes zero sense
0:15 i actually think it's worse than the connection and bug issues. It's SO dumb to bind such a massive gameplay decision to the camo grind
It’s always been that way, is this your first cod?
@giraffenuzZ it hasn't... headshots have always been more powerful! is this YOUR first cod? 😂
Yet here I sit with two golden weapons the xm4 and the Jackal PDW without even prestiging yet. I'm just getting to level 54 So I chopped this up into a skill issue
@@KaentukiTheFuki mmm yes and no. Skill issue yes, but that doesntmran their point is invalid. Headshots require more skill and should be rewarded accordingly.
I know COD isn't exactly realistic, but having 4 shots to the head for a kill just feels mega arcade
On a side note, if you want to grind headshots quicker play hardcore
This "competitive scene" argument is *so weak*.
OG MW2 had a 1.4x headshot multiplier that still felt weak, when compared to other shooters like battlefield 3 and its 2x multiplier. Going for headshots is supposed to reward you, since it requires higher skill.
In my actual opinion? This is due to omnimovement, mostly sliding. Sliding moves your model and puts your head right where your center of mass usually is when standing. Players who are used to aim there will get unintentional headshots on enemies who are sliding. So, in an effort to make headshots less punishing to those using sliding/omnimovement, they nerf headshots.
Hmmm, makes sense tbh.
Yep. They don't want the addy babies using their new toy being punished for slipping around everywhere.
They haven't listen to Pros in a minute. It's really cause of the Camo grind
Also OG MW2 was broken AF so IDK that's a good example for balancing. The game was loved cause it was broken
@@jeremybrown9611 it was broken AF, but headshots didn't even get near the top 10 list of broken things about it lol
High headshot dmg widens the skill gap. They can’t have that because they need little Timmy to buy a bundle.
Yeah Ace clearly knows this but he also knows where his bread is buttered 💯
It also results in more bunny hopping which i can do but it just looks stupid when everyone is just hopping the whole time
With SBMM, Little Timmy is playing in lobbies full of Little Timmy’s.
@@Reginald_Harrison No they mix all players with each other. It's very common for above average players to have to carry a team full of Timmys... & if the Timmys are on the other team, they get extra bullet damage against the good players and take like half a mag to kill. Oh uh I mean "desync"...
@@bray2079 i've seen exactly 0 bunny hoppers. jumping isn't all that good in this game. this isn't xdefiant lol
Yeah let's make all of the camo challenges headshot related, and then make headshots useless. This has got to be some of the worst gunplay/balancing in COD history.
Its all manipulation, just like sbmm/ eomm. Gatekeeping camos behinds headshots that you never get keeps you grinding longer.
@@typeohero3519I'm glad I have never in my life made an in game purchase, this manipulative shit needs to be prohibited
I find the combination of average to bad headshot multipliers, the new omni movement system, and the worthlessness of the CHF barrel all make a bad game design slog to slow down your dark matter progress. There's no way this was done unintentionally.
Not everything’s a conspiracy, all the functions work together logically even if there was no camo grind (as the goal is consistency and not slowdown)
@HardTahc But unfortunately there is a camo grind which is a big reason to why people play Multiplayer nowadays. The design philosophy goes completely against anyone actively aiming for the head to the point where anyone aiming center mass will win every time except with specific guns.
Well, it is from the same dev team who made an SMG with the special ability of having increased headshot multiplier in exchange for slow RoF and slow projectiles, and then still gave it a damage and headshot multiplier that didn't change the shots-to-kill at all so you were left with a low-DPS gun with 0 upsides.
Nevermind playtesting, they don't even do the most basic of maths when balancing.
im a KB/M player and in this game it seems like the best way to alleviate the annoying camo grind is to just play hardcore. for the vast majority of guns its just a single tap to the head as opposed to having to track their head through recoil and flinch
except when it takes more than one headshot.... I exclusively play HC mode. It isn't very consistent at all.
I play HC to finish my double kill camo grinds.. HC is the onl 9:57 y time I score 3 head shot kills, core is usually 8 or 9. HC hit markers are awesome too though lol
@@misplacedcaper9662and when it does the chf barrel is actually useful and makes it a 1 tap.
I agree that some if not a majority of the reasons for weak headshots is pro play. Treyarch has typically been the most in tune with the cwl/cdl of the different teams. The problem with that though, (and I say this as someone who loves competitive cod) is that most of the pros are 1: heavily biased 2: very rarely objective in their criticisms and 3: are currently in a weird identity crisis where there HAS to be two Submachine guns per team and there HAS to be very specific stats on the AR
Did my entire dark matter grind without touching CHF , recoil was just ridiculous and not worth it
No one cares about you farming a zombie glitch
The thing is hardcore basically nullifies this. It’s a core issue and a really big one. But if you’re camo grinding the efficient way it should be a non issue
Yeah much easier to play HC than deal with that ridiculous weapon handling
The only reason for useless headshot is to slown down the community on the camo grind and help player retention on the long run, that's it. Activision only cares about the data, they don't care about how it impacts the gameplay.
You don’t care about thinking critically
Yeah that’s the only logical reason. Activision only cares about money so it makes sense
@@alexmason5521 I'm all about thinking critically and I 100% agree with Ace reasoning regarding why Treyarch would make these choices for the headshot and what they should do to improve them. But when you know Activision is behind all the decisions made for the game, how they usually operate and how important player retention is for their shareholders, this is the best reason business wise on why they nerfed the headshots like that.
Maybe in February/march, they will do something for the headshots when they see in their data that the community is well advanced in the camo grind
@@alexmason5521 This guy is thinking 10 times more critically than Ace was in this video. Ace thinks statistically but probably more than anything else, whether what he says will get him in trouble with Activision. Gotta keep that bread buttered after all
@@alexmason5521 lol huh? thats the most logical conclusion, following the money and not being distracted by preconceived notions is the most critical thinking of all. cod isn't a game to activision it's purely a vehicle for revenue. they put more bundles than content in the game because that makes them more money. they put skill gap compressing elements into the game because it makes them more money, they put sbmm in the game because it makes them more money, they made these horrific maps because small killbox maps make them more money
This is why you don’t listen to pros
Since when
The pros have more hours in the game than 90% of the community combined lol.
@@awepossum1059no they don’t. Not sure what you define as a pro but there are a lot of streamers who aren’t pro that play the game for a living too
Every single game goes down the can when developers start listening to professional video game player losers
You’re right they should listen to the shitters playing for 2 hours a day on their 70 inch tv in the living room. I’m sure MWII still had a player base, go play that.
I like what Cold War did to the flinch to mitigate the "luck" with headshot with eliminating real flinch (no movement in point of aim and only being a visual effect) in that scenario, if you want to get into heatshots, only your aiming and recoil control will judge the outcome of that gunfight, also it will aliviate the headglitching even more
cold war shits all over this garbage game. bo6 is a huge disappointment.
Why not just have separate weapon stats for ranked... A full game based on a ranked game mode is really very stupid.
Real
They already do it for warzone, same guns same engine, why can't they do it for ranked
Either that or just buff the CHF barrel anyway, those crybaby "pros" ban half the attachments and guns anyway in ranked so a buff to the headshot barrel would be irrelevant to those crybabies if they ban it anyway
@sonofsam6969 exactly. Why a whole ass game should conform to ranked play and cdl nerds is beyond me
That sounds awful
@@CorrosiveCitrus do your guns do the same damage in mp as they do in warzone? How is that not awful?.
@masonjack7741 not hard to figure out, but they are different games.
No, the guns don't do the same damage as they do in battlefield, modern warfare, blackops2, counterstrike, or warzone 1/2, campaign etc.
Feels like the enemy team is playing Hardcore and my team is playing 10 shots to kill Mode. MP feels weird.
That's part of the EOMM algorithm to retain casual players. (hears independent thought alarm) Oops I mean "desync". Just happens desync always benefits the worst players. Crazy coincidence
Solution: Give all weapons inherent CHF and change CHF to improve some other aspect.
I had the same idea. CHF barrel can be changed to headshots causing extra flinch
Here's my fix for this. I don't think they need to increase headshot damage in general just make the chf barrel better this way, people who actually have good aim and want to be rewarded for it. Throw the barrel on and it makes it worth it. And the others don't have to use it, and they can just play normal, but it shouldn't be so overpowered that when someone's using it you cant kill them hardly at all ya know
That effing jeep on Nuketown is a terror for headglitch
Why did we finally lock camos behind headshots again the year that headshots are practically worthless?
I know the game isn't supposed to be a realistic mil-sim but a barrel that increases head shot damage is basically magic.
Sad that BLOPS 6 is going to get best multiplayer game of the year with how mid it's been right now. It could be great but it's barely hitting mid for me💀
What? And not warhammer?
delta force is out next month for pc at least so i guess that technically counts and its 20 times better than this rat bag game
I think Helldivers 2 has a better chance of winning that.
One thing that gets missed in the discussions is that unlike the high caliber attachment from previous games, there’s an higher opportunity cost for CHF since it’s an attachment primarily competing against the long barrel which offers a far more consistent and important benefit in gunfights.
I am a sniper user and I've gotten at least 10 Headshot hitmarkers with the LR 7.62. Granted they were wallbangs but I even had fmj on a few of those occasions and it was through like Nuketown garage door. Dude a sniper headshot should never be a warning shot
It isn't. Wallbangs shouldn't be 1 shot kills. Non wall bangs are.
@@grilledleeks6514say u have less then 70 iq without telling me
do u want to be killed without a chance to move just cause someone chose to hit a random ahh wall. If u played siege u know how frustrating it is to have some random guy shoot a wall and get a wall bang headshot with zero intel
@@Xictliithats called getting lucky.. because it isn't consistent and you SHOULD be rewarded for guesstimating where they could be, just like how you're punished for missing
I have a clip saved of wall banging a one hit kill with the AX50 on Piccadilly. Sniper power was never a question until BO6
MW2019 M13 had a mediocre time to kill, but mix in just 1 headshot and you had the fastest AR TTK in the game. That was fun a rewarding.
mediocre ttk? that shit was literally Hardcore
@@Manning0151 Re-read my comment. Didn't say that MW19 had a slow TTK, but the M13 TTK was slower than any other AR in the game.
How about let’s talk about the server problems 😂 (Not mad at you ace, I love you, keep up the great work)
As someone who plays HC almost exclusively, I haven’t really noticed. What I have noticed though is the stupid amount of smoke grenades being thrown.
As a member of the competitive scene, it feels like we've been ignored more than ever. The competitive maps & modes are a mess; Ranked is at its worst, most of the issues being incredibly simple fixes.
Weak headshots are nice, but I doubt comp is the reason they exist. No flinch would be prefered.
I dont understand why comp wants headshots lessened..? It makes perfect sense for headshots to be punishing on the receiving end, at least imo
@@warwolf715 The real problem is flinch, which raises the receiver's point of aim, which results in accidental headshots.
You can aim for the knee, but because your opponent hits shots into you, you end up getting a headshot. I'm sure you can understand how that's a problem if headshots are strong. Your opponent is punished for hitting shots into you.
@@Arctic3OD I pick up what you're putting down.
I think flinch should be visual only. So your screen moves, but your point of aim doesn't move. So you still get flinched (should be removed imo anyways, it's just annoying full stop, but I can see it's purpose)
The only real weird gunfights are with the tsarkov so I really feel like it’s working to make it more consistent, while also on the other hand I like the idea of going back to higher multipliers having 26 guns diamonds so far
When you're so early you don't know what to say
Doing well so far!
It is such an odd design choice. Headglitching being so strong has always been a problem with CoD, and the only downside to holding those angles was if you got hit you died fast. With headshot damage gone, it makes it so hard to contest these angles. Their intent may have been to make TTK more consistent, but this wasn't the way to do it.
I wouldn't call it a down side though
It's not like your head is any easier to hit just because your body is obscured
@@CorrosiveCitrus it's the predictability. You know where their head is gonna be if they're headglitxhing
I hated the MCW’s 1 headshot reduction to TTK last year, even though it made sense for balance in public matches. That said, I would’ve been fine with 3 out of 4 headshots reducing ttk, and 2 with an attachment. This requiring all headshots, or them not mattering at all is a definite L for me, even as a sweaty ranked player. My personal preference would probably be all but 1 headshot as a default, and all but 2 with the attachment, with potentially different or less punitive downsides.
Ace, is there currently any weapon you believe the CHF barrel is worth the trade off?
The problem is, I get headshots and then some bot whos probably drooling on their controller gets all toe shots and Im the one who dies.
That's EOMM. (hears independent thought alarm) Oops I mean "desync". Just happens desync always benefits the worst players. Crazy coincidence!
@@truthdog1107it's the damage multipliers... Didn't you just watch the same video?
@@truthdog1107I've been browsing the comments and the amount that you have left with this insane cope take is hilarious. Skill based damage isnt a thing, you are just coping with the fact a bad player sometimes kills you. You should take a break from cod if it makes you so upset you are spreading literal conspiracy theories
@@TheMirksta Strange that you'd be threatened by a theory. You've probably never had an original thought in your life
@@truthdog1107Ironic since you definitely heard someone else make up 'skill based damage' and jumped on the bandwagon. Weird how eager you are to believe something with no evidence rather than rightfully being skeptical
Thank YOUUUUU I've started the camo grind and started with marksmans and it was sick how accurate I had to be while also doing low damage
The reason headshots are weak are because headshots widen the skill gap. Activision want the skill gap as narrow as possible to cater to the casuals because that's how they make money.
The truth
This is the facts
they don't widen the skill gap at all, they do the opposite. lower damage headshots make it easier to deal max ttk for both parties and reduce inconsistency leading to an advantage to the better player who will more than likely shoot first. it's less likely for the better player to shoot first and die because the other guy hit a lucky flinch headshot
@@lemmingsftw2480 sorry but if one player can consistently hit headshots and the other can't, the former player is the better player, but currently that skill expression isn't in the game
@@CorrosiveCitrus well yeah obviously, not really what i'm talking about though. as it is now the player that shoots first and has better aim is the better player. the consistency makes it easier for better players to dominate worse ones without getting beamed in the head from someone who has been bad all game and just luckily aimed at the head without meaning it
The chf barrel is literally useless on all weapons except Tsarkov. Max health is 100. If you put the chf on the Tanto smg, its headshot damage from one bullet is above 50... but it still remains a 3 shot kill weapon even in point black range. So even when MATH says yes, Treyarch says no!
with the very unpredictable movement, shouldn't it be MORE rewarding to get headshots compared to other games instead of less? Crits are such a big thing in FPS games, why did they have to minimize it?
To lower the skill ceiling lol. Just look at what else they did.. assist now count as kills hahahaha, now the shit players think they're good too!
They really should remove flinch from regular guns. It’s not a fun or engaging mechanic, frequently not doing much other than shaking your screen more, while adding a bit of inconsistency. And like you said, it flinches people into headshots.
Been a problem since launch and it’s still not fixed? This is why I quit the game when season 1 dropped. They just ignore us when we tell them there are game breaking problems. They don’t care about us
"game breaking" 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah idk about gamebreaking... but definitely aggravating. Headshots should be rewarding..
the CHF barrel could also do what similar barrels did in vanguard: substantially reduce bodyshot damage, substantially improve headshot damage. Hit two headshots in a row or you get a poor TTK, for example.
1:30 yet the TTK is more random and less consistent than ever...
Love the videos! I gotta admit though, my OCD caused me so much pain with you holding that archangel for so long....
If they did this for “consistency in time to k*ll”
Then why is time to k*ll in this game so inconsistent???🤦♂️
The head glitching/headshots not counting problem also adds to the numerous spawn issues & how easy it is to spawn trap whole lobbies. It’s almost impossible to break out of certain map spawns because an entire team will just sit & head glitch into the spawns & those getting spawn trapped have virtually no counter to that
Any non IW studio won't stop until the TTK is in business days and your movement feels like Sonic the Hedgehog.
This.
lol you're speaking too many facts for a COD comment section
So what was MW3
@@jeremybrown9611 Not an IW game
@@jeremybrown9611 trash?
I'm so glad I'm not crazy. I figured out while doing all the camos that going for headshots are not worth going for except for like a handful of guns.
This might go against a lot of people but I’m fine with headshots being weak. And this is because I think the vast majority of headshots ever hit in call of duty have been complete accidents. For good or bad players, the natural instinct is to aim for center mass and this is overall the right choice. Flinch/recoil/just “accidentally” aiming at the head has probably caused way more headshots than deliberately aiming at the head.
I think the CHF barrel needs a buff tho. Making the choice to use this attachment and making headshots a purposeful part of your play style is a completely different situation.
I agree with this. I do agree with headshots should matter but it’s also annoying to be first on target and lose the gunfight because the flinch knocks up to the head
yeah i love the current balance, gunfights feel really readable. While I am not fully against Ace's idea, I prefer what we have now. I also didn't find going for headshots for dark matter hard either, as someone who did 95% of the grind in core.
Found the headglitch abuser. Bro lives behind the Nuketown Jeep
so you basically agree that the issues is not headshots but the shitty flinch mechanic.... cool, now just adapt your reasoning to headshots going back to normal and they just removing the trash ass flinch mechanic.
the "natural instinct" comes from headshots being useless. You can watch people who have played other FPS games swap to CoD and have to force themselves to *not* aim for head because that's *their* "natural instinct"
It takes too many bullets to kill in general when it feels like I’m getting melted with 2 bullets and killed when I’m already behind cover.
In my opinion, I think I am fine with headshots being much less useful in the maximum damage range. In those cases, you have movement to help you outplay other players, plus it prevents those luck flinch headshots from reducing the ttk too much.
However, in further damage ranges, where you might be fighting someone who is headglitching, these are the scenarios where I think headshots should be helping you. At further ranges, movement becomes much less of an impact on those gunfights as even if you do a quick slide, it is still only a small amount to move your aim to trace the enemy. Plus, when fighting at further ranges, the flinch will likely move you off target more often, as the enemy is a smaller target anyways. So at these further ranges, you should be able to reduce your shots required against a headglitching opponent as a method of countering the headglitch and rewarding accuracy.
I do think in this case the damage ranges of the ARs would likely need to be adjusted with this philosophy, because as it stands with only 2 ranges in most cases, the minimum damage range is just too far for this change to really be reasonable for most gun-fights. We might need a middle damage range where we see this impacted more.
I think for me personally, this is a good balance because of many reasons:
- You don't have potential crazy fast ttk up close and it remains consistent even with omni-movement
- Skill is still rewarded as movement is an option up close.
- Headshots are still useful
- It gives a strong option of countering headglitches
- Up close movement is rewarded, further away better accuracy is rewarded, so different playstyles get rewarded in different ways and if someone is an all-around player, they have the ability to prove that at different ranges.
With all of that said, the CHF barrel is a whole other balancing challenge. I agree that it should typically be making headshots a lot stronger than it does now, because it is generally not worth running.
Would love to see a video on tips to get the second rocket launcher camo grind done easier. No lock-on and requiring so many scorestreaks to get gold and further, not including just getting regular kills.
The competitive scene is gay as hell for banning anything to begin with. Everyone just uses the same 2-3 guns. Lame as fuck
Previous COD games didn't penalize the headshot attachments nearly as hard, and the benefit was greater. I want the CHF buffed but I'm not sure what the solution would be to keep it from being the de-facto barrel given that every attachment this year is purely bonus, but maybe penalizing range and bullet velocity instead of recoil to make it a direct sacrifice vs. the other barrels that improve it.
Protecting the lower skilled players.
Agreed! Just another handicap to make little Timmy keep playing and spending money on mommy's credit card. COD can barely be classified as a game at this point 😕
Pros actually favor this change. Headshot multipliers increase the chance of random flinch headshots, lowering the skill gap. No actual good player/pro ever aims for headshots.
@@justinbieber3697pros are playing a completely different game than you and I. And you just admitted that it’s the stupid flinch mechanic that’s the issue and not accidental headshots. Make headshots have an impact again and reduce flinch it’s literally that simple
@@justinbieber3697 yeah, that's interesting with cod tbh. Every other game, headshots are a kill (as it should be..) headshots offer a trade off, high reward for hitting, but harder to hit. Thus you are punished ir rewarded according to how consistent your aim is.. in other games like counter strike anyways.
Just feel silly pumping 3 7.62mm rounds into someone's head just for them to slide towards you and hipfire kill you lmao
@@poppychalupa9390 I didn't admit that at all. While flinch is the bigger issue, accidental headshots exist too.
Somebody else had the Problem, that when you pick up a reconcontract, it doesnt‘t Show the Place where you have to go?
Or when you pick up a bounty, but the Hostile is literally on the other side of the map
I don’t think that low headshot damage is a bad thing. If we are all honest headshots kills come from luck in a gunfight unless you have your crosshairs super high and going for headshots. Good players aim for the body and land their shots. Dying to someone who got a lucky headshot on you is dumb and lowers the skill gap. Having to hit your shots on target and not get lucky is better for the game. 2:00
Fair take I think it should be increased to reward the people with the skill to actually hit the headshots it’s abit inconsistent that I shoot someone in the head and it does the same damage as if i shoot their toes and the barrel that increases the headshot damage is terrible because of the lack of recoil control it creates that’s just my take tho
You HAVE to be a bot, i can't fathom that someone would suggest headshots aren't a skilled approach. Play literally any other game like idk, counter strike, where you're a bad play for aiming body. M4 is 2 headshots, 4 body. It just sucks if you're bad and can't land headshots lol
@@warwolf715 that’s not how cod is played tho. With the fast paced action you don’t have time to aim for the head. And games like CSGO and Valorant are diffrent games compared to cod. If you aim for the head every gun fight your ultimately going to lose to the guy aiming for the chest and hitting his shots.
My only gripe and complaint is that they don't have the middle finger emote like they had in cold war
I don't want things to feel "consistent." I want them to feel "competitive."
As a potential for the chf barrel, if you buff the headshot damage maybe add in extra flinch so you're less likely to hit that lucky headshot
I just got this game yesterday and now I see why it feels so off to go for headshots and why it feels like I kill enemies just as fast with leg shots as I do with headshots.
My first CoD since Ghosts so I have a lot of catch up on haha
With the SVD I often had that weird thing that I landed a one shot kill to the chest (even in slowmo you could clearly see that it was to the chest), then i flinched from getting shot and then it counted as a headshot. I can't explain what happened
it hurts the most on mnk tbh, ive been playing cod for decades now on pc and have been going primarily for headshots in every title and its hard to break that habit
i think reducing flinch/kick on automatic weapons specifically would make more sense along with increasing the headshot multiplier to 1.3x across the board
So the thing I found with the ranger foregrip (ads focus) it was a lot easier for me to get headshots. I got 8 headshot kills last night with CHF, recoil springs and the focused ads.
My solution to this problem:
Make a separate damage zone for the head where only shooting the center point of the head will 1-shot kill. Hitting the very corner of the head will act more like a “graze” rather than deal significant damage.
Wanted to say thanks for the Audio video earlier. I would never have thought turning off enhanced is better! I absolutely hear better direction turning it off. Makes no sense. I’m on ps5 pro using inzone Sony earbuds.
I completely agree, like you mentioned yourself, legitimate balance reasons aside, at the end of the day, it simply FEELS wrong and unsatisfying.
Btw, I would love to see a video on the Enforcer perk tree and how unsatisfying it feels compared to the other two, especially in tier 1. Alternatively, a video on the state of perks in general would be great!
I think the lack of a huge headshot damage increase balances the game. Cheaters don't have a huge advantage and lower skill players have a chance against high skill players.
Correct. They lowered the skill ceiling. Dumbing down the game so more people can play :)
They should just made flinch go in a random direction so it's not usually going to help you hit a headshot (or even upperbody). Make the flinch less intense overall but it could go left, right, up, down, or a mix in between
I was crying just trying to do the Goblin's 100 headshots. I camped at either kitchens on stakeout with the CHF barrel for half of the kills, and the effective range for the goblin's headshot multiplier to be any bit of meaningful was just out of range. It was absolute hell trying to do it, and when I finally finished it, I have never felt at more peace to n00btube for the two challenges. The goblin sucks so much ass. Maybe fixing the headshot multiplier would improve quite a bit of the gun.
I think that many of the automatic weapons in BO6 also have pretty low initial recoil by default for hitting consecutive shots on an adjacent body part, so like if you're aiming and firing at the head first and you're likely to hit the head multiple times at close to medium range before the recoil kicks in. Probably another reason for them to target a general low headshot multiplier.
I didn’t notice this cuz i have 1500 kills on Tsarkov and never knew they weren’t important.
Also the hit box for head shots is very inconsistent like sometimes they don't count unless it's to the upper head so if you shoot in the jaw it won't count as a headshot don't know if anyone else has seen this problem but it's as though you have to shoot specifically in the upper head for kills to register as a headshot sometimes
I started playing hardcore modes because of this it actually feels really good I doubt I’ll go back to core unless they change this
I agree it feels weird that headshots don’t improve TTK, but I do enjoy that it places more importance on positioning and reduces the luck of flinching into a headshot. Maybe a way to reward a headshot kill is a bonus to score streaks?
Anyone else kinda miss the tactical mode from infinite warfare? Health values weren’t changed at all but the headshots from weapons were hyper lethal. Really rewarded good aim
I think instead of reducing accuracy, the CHF barrel should reduce mobility. Reduce sprint to fire, slide to fire, dive to fire, and ADS speed for a meaningful increase in headshot damage.
I just got BO6 after they put the cross gen bundle on sale and instantly noticed how headshots were so weak. I made the personal decision to grind camos on hardcore. That's usually what ive done with weaker gun classes in the past anyways.
only way to balance headshots without changing the flow of combat this year would be to keep everything as is and remove the drawbacks of CHF barrel so it has space to shine within the current game balance
I've been grinding headshots on and off in MP because I'm spending most of my time going for the zombies camos lately, and man.... It is so frustrating having situations where I get a body hit marker and two headshot hit markers and still don't kill the guy, let alone get a headshot kill to progress the challenge. Hardcore it is, I guess.
They overcompensated, the only problem with headshots in the previous game was essentially the mcw with its 1 headshot to change ttk, just the mcw.
Maybe compounding headshot multiplier would be an interesting thing to try, instead of a static headshot multiplier.
I like the current damage multipliers. Keeps the game feeling consistent.
Biggest benefits I saw from chf barrell or rapid fire was the added recoil. Think you touched on it but it's helped my luck with headshots due to bounce. Strange way to do it but it worked for me
Everything you said and change flinch to down instead of up for CHF barrel. Done. Fixes the lucky flinch mentioned.
I think the ttk consistency is great! Plus it counters those times where you shoot first and die due to the enemy’s flinch causing them to headshot you! I think 2-3 headshots giving one less to kill is a great spot
I do agree that with the omnimovement having the more consistent time to kill is nice, along with the fact that headshots seem to often come from accident more than intent. Even as a slightly above average player (1.7-2kd) I find most of the time my headshots aren't purposeful, I am just trying to hit center mass chest area and attempting to control the guns recoil gives me a free headshot. I do agree with the point of the camo grind being headshots when they aren't meaningful is dumb. I wouldn't mind seeing the CHF barrel improved to where in most scenarios in max damage range with an SMG or AR you only need to hit 1 headshot in the max damage range to improve TTK, but in no situation should it reduce your shots to kill by 2.
I've personally stopped grinding for camos this year and probably won't go after it again.
I did it for the last 3 or 4 years and got high ranked, and all that fun stuff. But it just became an addiction and not fun. So I've stopped all camo grinds from this year on, and I no longer spend money
SMGs not having headshot potential by default actually makes sense. But everything else? It's a bit harsh. I get the idea but it's not without notable flaws.
My opinion;
Keep SMG headshot damage the same, increase AR headshot back to 1.5-2x dmg. There, fixed, now I can counter those annoying SAUG players with a headshot lol
My opinion;
Keep SMG headshot damage the same, increase AR headshot back to 1.5-2x dmg. There, fixed, now I can counter those annoying SAUG players with a headshot lol