I don't get why people hate on either game. Like sure, I prefer TDX, but TDS also has its appeal. When I see somebody rant about how TDX is doomed and the game sucks, etc etc, I'm just wondering what they're even talking about.
As a tds player i also hate the tds community, they are the most ungrateful people on this earth i swear... and instead of enjoying updates they try to point out the most inconveniences possible instead of enjoying the game. They also have like 0 logic when reviewing things too, they either just plain hate or make the stupidest points that can easily be debunked. Most of them also dont consider why it might be reasonable for an update to have flaws, for example Operation ice. For pretty much any game, the Christmas event will usually be in more of a time crunch than the Halloween event due to how much time is in-between Halloween and Christmas. For tds, after Halloween they had updates such as pls donate event, commando rework, pursuit rework, molten mode rework and sandbox mode. Those are 3 pretty major updates and 2 huge updates all made in the time between Halloween to Christmas, because they've worked on so much AND the Christmas event, its very likely and reasonable for it to have more flaws. People dont consider these things and need everything to be perfect no matter the circumstances. Ty for reading "allat"
PLEASE READ FIRST!! This comment is not meant to put down TDX. Trust me, the game is absolute FIRE, and it's actually pretty fun, with good updates and gameplay. What I am putting down, however, is this video. Content creators like this in my opinion are blinded by hate, anger, and ambition. They want their game to come out on top. This results in hate videos like this. This creator I can tell, has not fully played or evaluated TDS with an actual mind. He is just stating his opinions STRONGLY AGAINST TDS because people have been saying TDS is beating TDX in success, making him angry I guess. So, much love from TDS, I am NOT hating against TDX, but instead deeply criticizing this video because of how outright false this information is, consisting of just his opinion with NO clear evidence. Here is some detailed criticism by breaking down the whole video, along with my opinion. NOTE: I am a TDS fan but whilst writing this I take no sides: Im honestly so surprised on how far people will go to "win". Like honestly the rivalry is not even real unless it's between small content creators thirsty for attention. 5:39 also this makes no sense why are u posting this vid then ur acting like this is a competition. Also there is no way around competition bro just because it isn't "officially stated" competition is inevitable. Competition isn't just head to head, it's indirectly made for other games to reach the top. You could anime adventures "beat all other ads games by showing high quality and surpassing many other games. 7:56 In a genre like tower defense I don't understand how you "steal" ideas in tds. Take a look at tdx and tds. Look at how similar these towers are. It's not like they outright stoluefrom each other. It's basically impossible to come up with towers that would make sense and be balanced, whilst also not making it similar to other game. 8:48 like chill bro ur obviously just mad lil bro we can all hear ur voice ur probably crying in anger rn Im not saying ads is the almighty best, but dude chill its a video game. Your laughing is 100% forced ad out of anger lol. Both of the communities are sick of these content creators. 9:45 are you stupid you dont understand. He means TDS beat TB while they were still updating. 10:29 its not like Below WOULDNT update his game just because tower battles didn't update. That's not the whole motivation of a project. 10:09 to all the people who want to hear person teak so hard over a game lol. Ur laughing bro what. Also the TDS updates nowadays are actually polished, diverse, "especially events", and come out EVERY WEEK. TDX also has vey high end updates, events, and unique towers. Im just pointing out. When you get so one-sided, it's hard to notice positives on the other side, something I try to avoid. Just to also point out TDS is hard a f***, and can be confusing for younger audiences. The UI may be simple, but the difficulty in which. you must strategically farm (get towers that make money), upgrade, and place can be fun and challenging. 12:45 watch this through carefully, this is true stupidity. 5ouls is not saying that TTD did NOT beat TDS. He is simply stating that TTD seems more of a low quality, cashgrab game that bandwagons onto a highly child appealing trend that could make them famous. These factors causes the game to be a bit more low end and it looks as if the developers dont really care. He is saying that TTD DID beat TDS, but the quality of TDS is better, and he feels that it may have deserved to win.I also dont understand how TDS is a child apealing game. The UI looks simple, but Im not sure that's the reason TDS is actually doing okay. I dont get what you mean by "Low attention span kids", as TDS matches take lots of attentiveness due to their balanced tower, whilst also being fairly long. 13:29 damn this guy is stupid as hell. TDS PLAYERS ARE DUMB AS BRICKS? "DONT KNOW HOW TO STRATEGIZE?" Look at all the strategies the TDS communities created. They are exact, precise, and are actually hard to follow (unless you have some experience doing strategies in TDS.) 14:45 They were. You see, game competitions isn't so straight forward. It's not head on eval. Both games just try to create new updates, that may lead them to surpass another game in popularity with high end updates. This is done so they high climb higher uo the tables, for more recognition. They are not supposed to diss each other, more of a battle between frequent and good updates. I dont understand why so many people are so sour over this. NO HATE TO TDX FANS!! YOUR GAME IS FANTASTIC! Im just saying how these certain people are acting so stupid, blind, foolish, and mad over a natural cycle throughout development. 14:10 he meant new ideas are good, but constantly releasing new towers and skins becomes so boring and common, it becomes unoriginal, no matter how unique it is. Instead, you could add new gametes, challenges, and more unique gameplay ideas, instead of just some random towers that come into your mind. 14:24 I think your to stupid to understand his "gibberish", but he means that because TDS has used this format for so long, it forms its own identity. He means that TDS has established themselves as a unique game, although it could be similar to others. This makes it seem more appealing, and more fun. ANYWAYS IF YOU READ THIS WHOLE PIECE OF WRITING, GREAT JOB! Feel free to like if you agree! TDX fans other than this creator please tell me some things that may be unclear as I am mostly a TDS player. (I still play TDX, which is why I feel valid to provide actual clear evaluation.) EDIT btw this video Stop Falsely Criticizing TDX For Views (Roblox Rant) highly goes against most of his arguments here. Just look at 5mins and 6 secs in in that vid it says that some people think the game isn't for certain people like what ur vid here is completely against that.
@@Jik99-zp9dxJik99 trying not to say tds is a good game and trying not to glaze tdx for 2 secs: Impossible, you also dodged @peetertoth113 question like fucking politicals lol
Another reason why Tdx is getting lower player counts is because it's just basically the same game you defend the base, place a tower, and kill the boss since no one wants to grind again for another basically the same game and people already got good in tds so some people don't want to just suffer grinding again.
U got the good point vut for the player tht like abit more challenging tdx isn't bad choose. It's just depends on person choose bc i really hate how both tds and tdx community keep arguing each other while i was played both the game
@@tds_sledger4178Tds is classic strategy. Tdx is tds but with phonk and hp system. Look at Halloween events in both games. In comparison tdx looks more serious and idk "adult"
@@6o6yuH_23TDX having phonk actually explains the fanbase. Didn't John nerf certain strategies in the game anyway? Grinding is far more easy in TDS and I'd rather play that than TDX a few times a month because I'll make progress at least.
@@6o6yuH_23 tds halloween event was far more boring. this is a weird point to explain, but in tds the best strategy almost always boils down to "upgrade your stuff more". What i mean by that is in tdx ill go "hey, (insert enemy/wave here) is coming up, ill go for a (insert tower here) to counter that wave." In tds, theres no moments like that, its more just "place eg-> farm/ upgrade->place supports->upgrade everything to most efficient level->upgrade to max." for every. single. gamemode. It makes the modes feel a bit repetitive and blend together, as I don't have to really think about the wave design like I do in tdx.
@reconsider3735 if you've played the rework fallen there are some definite waves you have to look out for (14,19,22,31,40) and in general all other gamemodes have a wave you need to be wary of.
I wanna add my reason why TDX never died because when any game releases OF COURSE its gonna have a high player count. Because people were wanting to play the game on release and when the game went to what it usually averages. People just started saying "Oh TDX died". But thats just not true people just bored of playing TDX for hours on end or felt like doing something else. For example when TDX released there winter event the game peaked 17k to 20k i belive. So it means that the TDX community is still very well alive and going strong.
Tbh I kinda feel like the only “competition” between the two games is sort of the type of indirect competition that two companies tend to have like Xbox and PlayStation.
as a lv 555 tds player, here is my response - I agree that they arent "competing" against each-other, but the reason that tds updates weekly is competing with tdx player base - no, tds updates are not unfinished sometimes (other than act 3) and tds doesn't have bad updates, its just like you said about tdx, people just overhype them - tds isnt just a mindlessly played game, you just dont know how to make it hard. eg) solo fallen with only inter towers, solo hc with 4 tower slots etc - in the least retarted way possible, i can see tds just being un-encouraged by the tds community and the pressure on tdx at the same time - tds even with the grow up still would be winning as it appeals to a younger audience and bigger dev team - at one point, you literaly made no fucking sense, you said tds updates updates are just buggy uncompleted or just boring, like i said earlier you guys just have your expectations so high, and by the time tdx updates, tds would fix the problems they made
Yeah, the video was good overall, it was just mindlessly criticizing tds with little to no proof and the immaturity being displayed lol. Hopefully he can take some of this advice and better his content.
@TheDJskeleton-ek7oq this guy actually needs to stop criticizing tds bcus he likes tdx better and stop tryna get views over overused AF ideas, like bro how many vids did he even post based on bashing tds bcus he likes tdx better, i used to really enjoy his vids but now its just him beating up every aspect of tds and glazing the fuck out of tdx in the meantime, and when someone says something harsh about the game, he just comes and defends it like its his own child
@serily4524 I have never heard the claim of tds copying tb over tb not updating. The narrative I've seen promotes the idea of tds originally copying tb and eventually branching out while sometimes taking inspiration. Also, tds has original updates with good quality. Sure, some updates are buggy as hell and are rushed, but that has always been a problem due to the age of the game. If anyone can find evidence to debunk some of my criticisms, I will retract them. I also have more, but I don't want to list them all out lol.
2:15 The tds fanbase is absolute ass its just a bunch of five year olds that complain about the game no matter what. I play tds and play on and off tdx for the events and such. I have to say the tds community isn't ever happy about anything when, truthful, the game is growing and improves. However, the argument and tds beat tdx is stupid they both pull concurrent players. As of now, they are both in a stalemate with each other its just that the tds community love hating on every single aspect of the game, and thats what pulls views. TDS is flawed in many ways, just like tdx and doomspire defense (silly game I also play) Plus its always been stupid seeing a war over a roblox tower defense game. Let people enjoy their own game no need to shit on a game people enjoy without providing proper criticism
for me i just sit there and watch the chaos unfold and be silent regarding that stuff becaause its each games' take on a tower with similar traits eg cryo blaster and cryomancer, trapper and mine layer however, the title can start to be true but its arrival relies on roblox's hands
Copying is basically a normal standard for Roblox games but I'm return for you copying, other fellas can copy you and there is a limit to how similar your games are ,and no the towers are too similar to be considered inspiration even btd6 crosspaths can be considered different towers
Bro, these games have 1k and up concurrent players every day, and a game that has 1k+ concurrent players means that your game is good and the best.I dont understand why people are comparing things like this everyday.
TDX and TDS are great games, I just wish the communities would be chill just like the owners are instead of comparing each other to see which is better. I like both games btw.
“TDS beat TDX is completely false” “Player count isn’t entirely true that some game is succesful or not” “The count if players is certainly a factor” ;That’s contradictions… Think about it ig… Also, laughing at 5ouls, shouting, acting on emotions… 13:30 Or just they got used to tds, not because tdx is harder. You’re talking a lot about a kids, but YOU are showing your immaturity 14:44 Calm down, do you need to go to the doctor?
“Beat” the other td game? WRONG. They are both good TD games. I am not saying one is better than another/one copied another, etc. Just enjoy the damn game. The creators are chill, why cant the community? All of those argument and debate for what? NOTHING. All im saying? Stop arguing about if tdx/tds is better than the other and agree that they are both good td games.
if TDX were less grindy i would play it but I really don't feel like spending weeks grinding for a battlepass or a good tower. You could argue that TDS is also grindy (it is) but because it's really easy to get the stuff you need it's not that bad. Also, TDS is more of a casual game I'd say. While you say it's very easy there's still ways to give yourself a challenge. But still, most of the time i just like to sit back and watch my mortar kill 13 enemies in one shot. I prefer TDS but still love and respect what TDX has done for the tower defense community. (also, why the hell is the like only good popular tower defense game outside of roblox btd6? someone should do something about that)
I mean last battlepass was so easy to grind, and getting towers is also a lot easier (unless you want to get lvl towers since lvling up in tdx takes forever)
Using strats sucks tbh i rather do stratless but as grind in tdx is so boring then i use strat to get smth fast as possible.... because I'm not enjoying tdx events sorry if i was bit rude @TDX_Advisor
I quit tdx because I felt like it was kinda bland, it was overhyped ALOT, and the grind is just way to long, yes I gave it a chance because I was lvl 119 before I decided to leave the game, I’ll most likely give it another chance in like a year or sum
I think poeple only started to think tdx was in a competion bc when tdx released tds and started updating alot more with better updates (Note I am not saying they were in a compaition just theorizing why poeple think this)
So let me get this straight everybody thinks that someone is winning yet nobody even is competition like what? It’s like starting a war over nothing but it’s not to an extreme level.
Toilet Tower defense being somehow the most popular one still confuses me. But when it comes to every other TD game on Roblox its just some good old variety and no game is the same.
13:10 so sure tds is more child appealing than the more militaristic tdx but not by much but Skibidi toilet td is gonna attract way more kids than a td with a more cartoony style. And dude why are you insulting tds players calling them idiots I play tb, tds, and tdx what does that make me? ok I just watched 13:35 and all you do is insult tds players c'mon you just sound ignorant. other than that I agree arguing over which game beat the other is pointless
@@Jik99-zp9dx I wasn't trying to sound smart, I was trying to call you stupid for assuming you're smarter than TDS players because you play a different tower defense game on a platform made for CHILDREN. You are not better than TDS players, and TDS players aren't better than you. Next time you create a video like this, just be a *bit* less hostile towards TDS players. You are feeding into the constant hatred towards TDX, which leads to hatred towards TDS, which fuels the never-ending cycle. While I have your attention, I should mention that TDS having more players more consistently does make it more successful, but they haven't "won" the non-existent battle.
Honestly i strogly agree with the fact that the tds community is not as nice as the tdx community because most people in the tdx community are very helpful and the pros are really nice
While yes tds is not in competition and it never beat any game you ruin your arguments whit insults imo especially at 11:12/8:46 you could have worded those arguments less…agresive bc while yes 5souls seeing td genre as a competition is bad, tdx aint dead,tds might be esier(tho balancing is a Bit different in both games bc they are diferent games) there is no need to act all..like that. And can i just say something, i try to be as constructive as i can but man.. some tds/tdx fan just make the dumbest arguments and rhe ones that are legit and good just beuried between the pile of absolute SHIT. JUST SAY THE GOOD POINS,IS IT SO HARD TO BE ONLY CONSTRUCTIVE TO BE POSITIVE AND NOT NEEDING TO MAKE SOME DUMBASS TAKE OR INSULT???? and while yes tds might “appeal to kids” is not as lucrative as ttd and while yes some tds fans cant handle tdx and some complained just bc someone made a bs tjing doesnt mean the community is like that. and real quick, tds makes original updates and while some might look…similar they add an original spin to it(tho theres the consumables update..no i wont add pursuit bc its just one tower and tds is not restricted to one path stuff bc if so tdx also wouldnt need to have 1 path stuff so dont say that if you thought it was a counter argument). And i think im done, if you the reder have questions ho ahead and ask em and ill try to respond. Keep being ohio w rizz winter arc skibidi sigame still water something something rage and cya.
@serily4524 What makes you think you can give people the title of bias when you've been a biased tdx player since the start lmao, literally all your comments about tds are dogging on it usually just calling things trash instead of criticising, you are the dumb part of the tdx community.
God finally pointed that Tds community is dumber than a rock, no td games in roblox competed on each other, I as a Tower Battles Veteran, TB and TDS didnt fought, no compete, TDS community is just playing a more baby game, it aint that hard to grind, and to point it also, it became a gambling, transaction game..... And yes thanks for pointing this video out
*"Rushed TDS Frost Event 2024 vs Rushed TDX Halloween IV Event"* *Rushed TDS Frost Event 2024* = Delayed - Bugs everywhere on Fresh Release - Wave 30+ = Yandere Simulator FPS - "Triple A styled battlepass" but nerfed - No free Deluxe Crate as event - Annoying Dialogue - two of mid moments event towers = somewhat Nostalgia pandering = "Triumph a few Hards, then we're done" = High quality skins in battlepass (but locked as paid) = The waves were little threatening (Frost shielder and unstable ice is biggest threat) + Has VA and Cutscene + The song is alright + The map is good + Shirtless buff Ramiel *Rushed TDX Halloween IV Event* = Delayed - Finding to matchmake feels stupid (min : must have gjugg and golden ranger) - Has a same quality of Halloween III (feeling dissapointed) - Never promises a VA or Cutscenes = Event Towers feels like Meta and the FOMO is haunting you = Nightmare Grumble is so cancer = the Map is alright = Reused enemies in alright way + Still Fun + Never or slight felt a Lag + Battlepass is completely free, but requires intensive grinding + The song is good + Tons of Replayability (because free but grindy battlepass) + The Waves had it's meaning (end of Wave 2, if u forgor bringing a anti air, you're dead fr)
i remember in early 2024 i REALLY hated tdx becaus of how awful the grinding was and john just continuously nerfed every decently fast grinding method since then hes stopped doing that and even buffed rewards from every gamemode a lot up to now and tdx became my 2nd favorite roblox td game ...if only tds devs tried to fix the games issues as much as tdx devs have
he only nerfed GRINDING strategies, because at the end of the day, tdx is a hard game, and by just doing the same easy strat over and over again, you don't really get better at it. By nerfing grinding strats he forces you to actually play the game and engage with it's mechanics.
@reconsider3735 theres a pretty clear difference between getting better at the game and doing the same thing over and over and over and over again just to get 1 new tower
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f the terrible grinding, despite me not being really affected by it anymore i can still see how AWFUL the grind is for stuff like engineer and all the golden towers the game is also very buggy, like every other update theres at least 1 gamebreaking bug that lets you do something stupid that shouldnt be possible
One very positive thing for me is optimization, TDX has much better optimization and it is difficult for the game to start to lag a way that makes the game almost unplayable while in TDS in both most recent events the lag was extreme
@4dstrawberry-l9z42f i also play in phone and the lag It's present in both games, but in TDS, for me at least, the lag is much worse, while in TDX the lag is present but not as severe as in TDS.
Can everyone just stop comparing both of these games like shut up and just play both games if you like them or do anything else then just comparing tds to tdx like dude just enjoy both of them and i hate it when people compare both these games who cares if tds or tdx events suck just enjoy them atleast (This is not a hate comment ok i made this bc people are still comparing tds and tdx just shut up ok i just hate it when people compare both of them)
because the tds community are a complete hypocrites like they always complain whining like they want updates to be fast and lastly they change their minds after that update released because it was buggy it's their fault for rushing them
You can't exactly blame tds for its community. Also by that logic ttd would be better than both as they love buying op towers with robux and showing them off
I would agree with your video except for a few things -Not all tds fans are stupid, I play both tds and tdx and I don’t compare them. Also don’t act like it’s just tds fans comparing tds and tdx, there’s also tdx fans that compare them together -5ouls himself said that he later disagreed with his video in the comments and because of that I assume he deleted it cuz he nolonger agrees with what he was yapping about -This one isn’t related to tds or tdx but rather your video I don’t think the r slur was necessary Other than that ig I agree with your points
The whole video is of him laughing at 5ouls over his opinions of why tds is topping over every other tower defense games with the players tbh he made some good points at the start of the video and the rest was him trashing the tds community this just shows the immaturity coming from him
"TDS vs TDX" get out from home and touch some grass, oh, i forgot that there no grass cuz its ALREADY DECEMBER, WHY THEY STILL ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER?
My guy both of these games are good, most of these points are critiques at TDS's community. It's been seen by both Below and John that they like eachother's games. Just say you hate TDS bruv.
criticism does not equal hate, get out of here tds fan, you clearly cant handle criticism over tds and its community, the game isn't perfect stop being ignorant
and while yes I agree that TDS has tons of flaws, my main gripe is how they are over shadowed by the main thing stated in this video which is simply stating the community is all dumb
Cool video. But honestly I have some issues with it. First off, I agree with you on the topic of being no competition between the two games and that 5ouls just spoke gibberish for the most part. So nothing to put on that. But. About my first issue would be that even while tds is more suitable for kids due to less mechanics and stuff it having greedy micro transactions isn't something that can be compared with tdxs micro transactions. They both let you get level locked towers early with robux, infact if I recall correctly tdx has a "Starter pack" offer shoved into your face when you join it. So I'd say they're around the equal in the micro transaction side, if not tdx having a bit more. For update quality, Id say tdx has slightly more quality updates. Going for a quality over quantity type of cycle. While tds is more of a quantity over quality. But I wouldnt say the updates they make are necessarily TOO bad. As tds community can't wait fucking 2 weeks without an updating, forcing the devs to get one out every week or so. Making it pretty hard for the devs to fix all the bugs even tho they have a huge team. So I'd blame most of the community for that. For around the part where tower battles comes brought up. Yes, tds stole from tb. Alot. But they had a few niche updates here and there. Also, tds being easier doesn't mean it's a 100% "kid targeted" gameplay. It's just a way to make begginers get used to the game easier, which kind of completes each other with tdx. Tds being a more laid back experience, with tdx being for those who are more of a challenge seeker. So could say they both are for different type of people. Anyways, nice video. Btw, for those who might sys I glazed tds. I played both of the games and I still do.
I do want to clarify that TDS also has the starter pack shoved into your face if you're a new player, they did that ever since the tutorial update I believe.
the devs of both games highkey need to address this shit. this stupid ass civil war has been going on for too long. I hope you dont mind If i make a video about this same topic, cuz the issue needs to be addressed further.
The owner of tower battles is a tower of battles event in tdx at the last moment, like seven hours before the game mode went out he tried to do it nightmare I think dog should be updating his game. I know who he’s active on Roblox.
Im level 300 on tds and 100 in tdx and i quitted tdx because i feel the main gamemodes expert and elite felt bland an unfinished and overall boring, but if they rework them ill sure be back
lowkey these points are kinda buns point 1 - you provided zero evidence for why the TDX fan base is content with the game, you only provided evidence that says the player base hates TDS, which it doesn't. The videos you showed aren't hate, it's criticism.
also, the player count does also contribute significantly to a games success. If TDX had 10k players on release, and only averages 2k now, that means that the game isn't good enough for most players to feel rewarded to keep playing it.
just because updates role out quicker doesn't mean they aren't made with quality and care. Take the molten rework for example. also, TDX has been relying heavily on introducing a new tower almost every single update. this does not help the power scaling issue at all and how are players supposed to buy the newest tower if they just bought the last one?
you keep complaining "waaaaa waaaaa tds is more kid friendly!!!! waaa waaa" this isn't a bad thing, since TDS has expanded their player base from just older people to younger audiences. It doesnt make the game worse for also appealing to kids, it only makes it better, that's different from being a game for kids.
I like both games and I am pretty good at them too, but I don't really like the way TDS is going, especially with its greedy Battle Pass system, where it's gone SO BAD to the point it's not even worth doing and people are using TINYTASK to complete the battlepass, I feel like ever since Lunar Overture the game has been going downwards.
tds has more game passes then ttd but 5ouls said ttd is like a game made by corporate, tds has more game passes so the same could applied here. But i yet to have played ttd
I think one of the reasons tds's fanbase is "not content with the game" while tdx's fanbase is, is because of how tds's fanbase is MUCH MUCH bigger than tdx's. And more people equals to more complaining. Also tdx isn't that much fun compared to tds. Ive pretty much completed both games having all the towers except past events one and all i can say is tds and tdx are boring af. None of them won shit because tower defense games in general are just boring as hell. Tds and tdx are an example of that, its all just soul depriving grinding over and over again.
The event are pretty fun the first few times you play em but I do agree that the grinding is pretty boring most of the time. The grind wasn't much in the tdx halloween event tho and the no path maps were pretty cool with the soundtracks being awesome.
Saying that tds games aren’t that smart is unfair and biased. I play both tdx and tds and I can see a higher level of simplicity in tds but I wouldn’t say they are dummer I would say the lower level players lack effort.
I feel like TD games get made for 2 reasons: 1-Cash grab 2-To get a start and a small community for future and more complex games that the dev has in mind, as seen with tower blitz. (I strongly recommend the 2nd one)
@UnrandomXD29 td games are easy to make and pretty popular so small devs can benefit from the simplicity and the fanbase it can create, so I don't think that all td games are cash grabs.
@UnrandomXD29 also, I don't think tdx is a cash grab because, majority of gamepasses aren't necessary to win (like timescale) and still grindable (like coins). Yes, they do have flaws in how they handle progression still, they are improving a lot.
@@Shereen3 @Shereen3 dawg im level 468 in tds and level 120 in tdx, if you think I don’t know that you are delusional. and them being friends doesn’t mean they don’t compete with eachother what is wrong with yall bro
@@PenumbrasTDS Your level in both games has nothing to do with this argument. My point is that both game owners share ideas (implied so), and therefore, it wouldn't make sense to consider it competing when they're helping one another.. Saying that they're competing can cause indirect toxicity between both communities, I've seen it happen.
@serily4524 im not the one who made a whole video bashing a game I don't like. people that truly fight which game is better are stupid. again, play whatever one you like.
criticizing is a normal thing little timmy and u seem like u cant handle seeing ur beloved tds getting criticized, too bad tds is not as good as u think, this is why people dont like the tds community, bunch of immature brats that cant take simple criticism of their flawed game and community
@serily4524 look at you over a game, jokes on you I played both tds and tdx. both are fun good games. if you seriously get worked up this much over roblox it's maybe time you seek healthier hobbies. grow up.
I hate all the TDS 5 year olds saying TDS isnt stealing anything and they are just adding in common ideas, meanwhile looking back at all the updates TDX received were copied within a week by TDS (ex: heli tower added to TDX, some days later TDS reworks pursuit), i'm a fan of both games but i'm leaning on TDX's side because of TDS becoming too cartoony.
@serily4524 warden was copied, barracks from tdx and tb were copied by tds as mercenary base, intermediate mode from tdx being copied by tds with the same name at launch (intermediate mode in tdx being the first iteration of tower hp, tds making their intermediate boss be able to kill is just next level copying)
DISCORD: discord.gg/wWTuTTtd
Btw at 10:23 I meant to say "Tower Battles" and not "TDX" lol
Also dude at 1:43 you say 5ouls deleted the vid but the thing is there at the bottom left corner
@@VoidYt01 no its not
@@Jik99-zp9dxoh, mb. Btw which vid were you talking about then?
@@Jik99-zp9dx yeah, I rewatched the vid and misheard what you said
I just realized that people are just saying that tdx and tds are fighting just to get views
I love how both John and Below are chill but the community’s are a dumpster fire lol
average game community logic:
owners:🤝
communities:⚔
Me who enjoys both games when they update and don't interact with the hostile community:
give this man a True...
Same, why can’t people just stop comparing them
I don't get why people hate on either game.
Like sure, I prefer TDX, but TDS also has its appeal.
When I see somebody rant about how TDX is doomed and the game sucks, etc etc, I'm just wondering what they're even talking about.
Your being too true sigma
Same bro
This video made my tower blitz defense and Galactica all over my X
AYO WHAT?!
Oh nah
What the brainrot bro yapping about?
(Ik what tbz and tg is but what the heck is a tower blitz defense and X?)
@@canthecoder
Tower blitz is another good Roblox TD game, and X is basically Tdx... Duh
@clintivanorsolino9518 I said i know tbz(tower blitz)Tdx too
PLS PLS PLS STOP COMPARING BOOTH GAMES they are both great and their owners are friends
Based sigma
Both*
Just looking out for you buddy
me when i dont watch the video and go straight to commenting the same fucking comment on every video even mentioning tds and tdx in the title
@@MartinCruz-cv7ve ty
the whole world bout to be covered in nuclear winter before this "tds vs tdx" shit ends
Decaying Winter reference?
As a tds player i also hate the tds community, they are the most ungrateful people on this earth i swear... and instead of enjoying updates they try to point out the most inconveniences possible instead of enjoying the game. They also have like 0 logic when reviewing things too, they either just plain hate or make the stupidest points that can easily be debunked. Most of them also dont consider why it might be reasonable for an update to have flaws, for example Operation ice. For pretty much any game, the Christmas event will usually be in more of a time crunch than the Halloween event due to how much time is in-between Halloween and Christmas. For tds, after Halloween they had updates such as pls donate event, commando rework, pursuit rework, molten mode rework and sandbox mode. Those are 3 pretty major updates and 2 huge updates all made in the time between Halloween to Christmas, because they've worked on so much AND the Christmas event, its very likely and reasonable for it to have more flaws. People dont consider these things and need everything to be perfect no matter the circumstances.
Ty for reading "allat"
As John Roblox once said “Just enjoy both games, bro.”
chat lets just appreciate what tdx and tds have to offer
PLEASE READ FIRST!!
This comment is not meant to put down TDX. Trust me, the game is absolute FIRE, and it's actually pretty fun, with good updates and gameplay. What I am putting down, however, is this video. Content creators like this in my opinion are blinded by hate, anger, and ambition. They want their game to come out on top. This results in hate videos like this. This creator I can tell, has not fully played or evaluated TDS with an actual mind. He is just stating his opinions STRONGLY AGAINST TDS because people have been saying TDS is beating TDX in success, making him angry I guess. So, much love from TDS, I am NOT hating against TDX, but instead deeply criticizing this video because of how outright false this information is, consisting of just his opinion with NO clear evidence.
Here is some detailed criticism by breaking down the whole video, along with my opinion. NOTE: I am a TDS fan but whilst writing this I take no sides: Im honestly so surprised on how far people will go to "win". Like honestly the rivalry is not even real unless it's between small content creators thirsty for attention. 5:39 also this makes no sense why are u posting this vid then ur acting like this is a competition. Also there is no way around competition bro just because it isn't "officially stated" competition is inevitable. Competition isn't just head to head, it's indirectly made for other games to reach the top. You could anime adventures "beat all other ads games by showing high quality and surpassing many other games. 7:56 In a genre like tower defense I don't understand how you "steal" ideas in tds. Take a look at tdx and tds. Look at how similar these towers are. It's not like they outright stoluefrom each other. It's basically impossible to come up with towers that would make sense and be balanced, whilst also not making it similar to other game. 8:48 like chill bro ur obviously just mad lil bro we can all hear ur voice ur probably crying in anger rn Im not saying ads is the almighty best, but dude chill its a video game. Your laughing is 100% forced ad out of anger lol. Both of the communities are sick of these content creators. 9:45 are you stupid you dont understand. He means TDS beat TB while they were still updating. 10:29 its not like Below WOULDNT update his game just because tower battles didn't update. That's not the whole motivation of a project. 10:09 to all the people who want to hear person teak so hard over a game lol. Ur laughing bro what. Also the TDS updates nowadays are actually polished, diverse, "especially events", and come out EVERY WEEK. TDX also has vey high end updates, events, and unique towers. Im just pointing out. When you get so one-sided, it's hard to notice positives on the other side, something I try to avoid. Just to also point out TDS is hard a f***, and can be confusing for younger audiences. The UI may be simple, but the difficulty in which. you must strategically farm (get towers that make money), upgrade, and place can be fun and challenging. 12:45 watch this through carefully, this is true stupidity. 5ouls is not saying that TTD did NOT beat TDS. He is simply stating that TTD seems more of a low quality, cashgrab game that bandwagons onto a highly child appealing trend that could make them famous. These factors causes the game to be a bit more low end and it looks as if the developers dont really care. He is saying that TTD DID beat TDS, but the quality of TDS is better, and he feels that it may have deserved to win.I also dont understand how TDS is a child apealing game. The UI looks simple, but Im not sure that's the reason TDS is actually doing okay. I dont get what you mean by "Low attention span kids", as TDS matches take lots of attentiveness due to their balanced tower, whilst also being fairly long. 13:29 damn this guy is stupid as hell. TDS PLAYERS ARE DUMB AS BRICKS? "DONT KNOW HOW TO STRATEGIZE?" Look at all the strategies the TDS communities created. They are exact, precise, and are actually hard to follow (unless you have some experience doing strategies in TDS.) 14:45 They were. You see, game competitions isn't so straight forward. It's not head on eval. Both games just try to create new updates, that may lead them to surpass another game in popularity with high end updates. This is done so they high climb higher uo the tables, for more recognition. They are not supposed to diss each other, more of a battle between frequent and good updates. I dont understand why so many people are so sour over this. NO HATE TO TDX FANS!! YOUR GAME IS FANTASTIC! Im just saying how these certain people are acting so stupid, blind, foolish, and mad over a natural cycle throughout development. 14:10 he meant new ideas are good, but constantly releasing new towers and skins becomes so boring and common, it becomes unoriginal, no matter how unique it is. Instead, you could add new gametes, challenges, and more unique gameplay ideas, instead of just some random towers that come into your mind. 14:24 I think your to stupid to understand his "gibberish", but he means that because TDS has used this format for so long, it forms its own identity. He means that TDS has established themselves as a unique game, although it could be similar to others. This makes it seem more appealing, and more fun.
ANYWAYS
IF YOU READ THIS WHOLE PIECE OF WRITING, GREAT JOB!
Feel free to like if you agree! TDX fans other than this creator please tell me some things that may be unclear as I am mostly a TDS player. (I still play TDX, which is why I feel valid to provide actual clear evaluation.)
EDIT btw this video
Stop Falsely Criticizing TDX For Views (Roblox Rant)
highly goes against most of his arguments here. Just look at 5mins and 6 secs in in that vid it says that some people think the game isn't for certain people like what ur vid here is completely against that.
“Brevity is the soul of wit” - William Shakespeare
@@Jik99-zp9dx You are criticising the TDS community while you are acting the same. it's a bit hypocritical don't you think?
@petertoth113 dawg I read the whole comment but i still think it's stupid how long it is
@@Jik99-zp9dxbro dodged the question so hard lol
@@Jik99-zp9dxJik99 trying not to say tds is a good game and trying not to glaze tdx for 2 secs: Impossible, you also dodged @peetertoth113 question like fucking politicals lol
Another reason why Tdx is getting lower player counts is because it's just basically the same game you defend the base, place a tower, and kill the boss
since no one wants to grind again for another basically the same game and people already got good in tds so some people don't want to just suffer grinding again.
U got the good point vut for the player tht like abit more challenging tdx isn't bad choose.
It's just depends on person choose bc i really hate how both tds and tdx community keep arguing each other while i was played both the game
@@tds_sledger4178Tds is classic strategy. Tdx is tds but with phonk and hp system.
Look at Halloween events in both games. In comparison tdx looks more serious and idk "adult"
@@6o6yuH_23TDX having phonk actually explains the fanbase. Didn't John nerf certain strategies in the game anyway? Grinding is far more easy in TDS and I'd rather play that than TDX a few times a month because I'll make progress at least.
@@6o6yuH_23 tds halloween event was far more boring. this is a weird point to explain, but in tds the best strategy almost always boils down to "upgrade your stuff more". What i mean by that is in tdx ill go "hey, (insert enemy/wave here) is coming up, ill go for a (insert tower here) to counter that wave." In tds, theres no moments like that, its more just "place eg-> farm/ upgrade->place supports->upgrade everything to most efficient level->upgrade to max." for every. single. gamemode. It makes the modes feel a bit repetitive and blend together, as I don't have to really think about the wave design like I do in tdx.
@reconsider3735 if you've played the rework fallen there are some definite waves you have to look out for (14,19,22,31,40) and in general all other gamemodes have a wave you need to be wary of.
I wanna add my reason why TDX never died because when any game releases OF COURSE its gonna have a high player count. Because people were wanting to play the game on release and when the game went to what it usually averages. People just started saying "Oh TDX died". But thats just not true people just bored of playing TDX for hours on end or felt like doing something else. For example when TDX released there winter event the game peaked 17k to 20k i belive.
So it means that the TDX community is still very well alive and going strong.
just correcting you here, not disagreeing with you, but the highest player count for the winter event was 15k.
Alr :)
Both community thinks their game is the messiah and anything else is just a pile of garbage.
eeyikes my '5oul' is leaving my body!!
TDS vs TDX is basically apple vs android 😭🙏🏻
nah not really it's more of like chrome vs edge
That is so true lol
And tdx is android the underrated one
@fireyhitmyfuseAnd tds is iPhone the popular one
Tbh I kinda feel like the only “competition” between the two games is sort of the type of indirect competition that two companies tend to have like Xbox and PlayStation.
as a lv 555 tds player, here is my response
- I agree that they arent "competing" against each-other, but the reason that tds updates weekly is competing with tdx player base
- no, tds updates are not unfinished sometimes (other than act 3) and tds doesn't have bad updates, its just like you said about tdx, people just overhype them
- tds isnt just a mindlessly played game, you just dont know how to make it hard. eg) solo fallen with only inter towers, solo hc with 4 tower slots etc
- in the least retarted way possible, i can see tds just being un-encouraged by the tds community and the pressure on tdx at the same time
- tds even with the grow up still would be winning as it appeals to a younger audience and bigger dev team
- at one point, you literaly made no fucking sense, you said tds updates updates are just buggy uncompleted or just boring, like i said earlier you guys just have your expectations so high, and by the time tdx updates, tds would fix the problems they made
Yeah, the video was good overall, it was just mindlessly criticizing tds with little to no proof and the immaturity being displayed lol. Hopefully he can take some of this advice and better his content.
Agreed, the points about them not competing were great in the video, but he definitely over exaggerated his criticisms on TDS
@TheDJskeleton-ek7oq this guy actually needs to stop criticizing tds bcus he likes tdx better and stop tryna get views over overused AF ideas, like bro how many vids did he even post based on bashing tds bcus he likes tdx better, i used to really enjoy his vids but now its just him beating up every aspect of tds and glazing the fuck out of tdx in the meantime, and when someone says something harsh about the game, he just comes and defends it like its his own child
@@Locky_Games"mindlessly criticizing tds" no shut up good criticism
@serily4524 I have never heard the claim of tds copying tb over tb not updating. The narrative I've seen promotes the idea of tds originally copying tb and eventually branching out while sometimes taking inspiration. Also, tds has original updates with good quality. Sure, some updates are buggy as hell and are rushed, but that has always been a problem due to the age of the game. If anyone can find evidence to debunk some of my criticisms, I will retract them. I also have more, but I don't want to list them all out lol.
2:15 The tds fanbase is absolute ass its just a bunch of five year olds that complain about the game no matter what. I play tds and play on and off tdx for the events and such. I have to say the tds community isn't ever happy about anything when, truthful, the game is growing and improves. However, the argument and tds beat tdx is stupid they both pull concurrent players. As of now, they are both in a stalemate with each other its just that the tds community love hating on every single aspect of the game, and thats what pulls views. TDS is flawed in many ways, just like tdx and doomspire defense (silly game I also play) Plus its always been stupid seeing a war over a roblox tower defense game. Let people enjoy their own game no need to shit on a game people enjoy without providing proper criticism
the only tds fans that I know that aren't complaining about every update are the reddit users lol
"the game is growing and improves" well nice joke but it isn't improving
@serily4524 you are exactly the audience he is referring to
Both communitys are ass lmao.
@serily4524 1/10 ragebait
for me i just sit there and watch the chaos unfold and be silent regarding that stuff becaause its each games' take on a tower with similar traits
eg cryo blaster and cryomancer, trapper and mine layer
however, the title can start to be true but its arrival relies on roblox's hands
Copying is basically a normal standard for Roblox games but I'm return for you copying, other fellas can copy you and there is a limit to how similar your games are ,and no the towers are too similar to be considered inspiration even btd6 crosspaths can be considered different towers
@@Senselessdogruffruff I never said those things and regardless it isn't the main point but wtv
I here to see the rage baits and outrage reactions
Yeah you would hope that they are actually rage bait and not idiotic comments.
Dunno about the hope part but I heard some people got rage baited here
I meant this video comment not my comment part
@@biluko Rage bait is so stupid, can we please get back proper comments 😭🙏
Hey TDS community and TDX community! Stop fighting because the owners of those games are friends!!!
Alternate title: Jobless teenager rants about TDS and glazes TDX for 15 minutes and 36 seconds
bro quit comparing both games tdx was never supposed to beat tds 😭
ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS IN THE VIDEO IS AGINST COMPARING THE GAMES AS IF THEY ARE IN A COMPETITION
@@Jik99-zp9dxthe rest of the video was you trashing the community and comparing the games?
@@ethanbennett7791why wouldn't he trash a trash game and trash community, thats called criticism
@@ethanbennett7791 NO IT WAS NOT
@@Jik99-zp9dx mb jit 😭
Bro, these games have 1k and up concurrent players every day, and a game that has 1k+ concurrent players means that your game is good and the best.I dont understand why people are comparing things like this everyday.
I'm so glad someone had to point that out.
TDX and TDS are great games, I just wish the communities would be chill just like the owners are instead of comparing each other to see which is better. I like both games btw.
“TDS beat TDX is completely false”
“Player count isn’t entirely true that some game is succesful or not”
“The count if players is certainly a factor”
;That’s contradictions…
Think about it ig…
Also, laughing at 5ouls, shouting, acting on emotions…
13:30 Or just they got used to tds, not because tdx is harder.
You’re talking a lot about a kids, but YOU are showing your immaturity
14:44 Calm down, do you need to go to the doctor?
tds is boring asl tho
@reconsider3735 iyo, this doesnt even relate to this comment really.
@RuvinPlaysOfficialdoesn't matter its still true
@serily4524 both if you just have un backed-up takes. Not even gonna bother if yall arent even bothered either.
instead of comparing both of those games why not just accept that both games are great?
A reality too good to be true, why cant tds and tdx players unite to dog on ttd lol
@RuvinPlaysOfficial "when the antagonist teams up with the protagonist to fight against a greater evil" type ahh scenario
@@vor.c fr fr
“Beat” the other td game? WRONG. They are both good TD games. I am not saying one is better than another/one copied another, etc. Just enjoy the damn game. The creators are chill, why cant the community? All of those argument and debate for what? NOTHING. All im saying? Stop arguing about if tdx/tds is better than the other and agree that they are both good td games.
5 thousand views and under 300 likes explains it.
ratio fr
When I'm in a bad opinion competition and my opponent are the mfs in this comment section (I'm cooked):
I thought this war ended already 😭
if TDX were less grindy i would play it but I really don't feel like spending weeks grinding for a battlepass or a good tower. You could argue that TDS is also grindy (it is) but because it's really easy to get the stuff you need it's not that bad. Also, TDS is more of a casual game I'd say. While you say it's very easy there's still ways to give yourself a challenge. But still, most of the time i just like to sit back and watch my mortar kill 13 enemies in one shot. I prefer TDS but still love and respect what TDX has done for the tower defense community. (also, why the hell is the like only good popular tower defense game outside of roblox btd6? someone should do something about that)
Tdx isnt grindy at all, maybe only an event because the part 2 didnt release yet
I mean last battlepass was so easy to grind, and getting towers is also a lot easier (unless you want to get lvl towers since lvling up in tdx takes forever)
@The_Mistake yes, but there are cool strats that can help you get exp
Using strats sucks tbh i rather do stratless but as grind in tdx is so boring then i use strat to get smth fast as possible.... because I'm not enjoying tdx events sorry if i was bit rude @TDX_Advisor
@TotallyNotSnowy. I mean using event strat sucks cuz this event is easy and it's just funnier to use matchmaking instead of solo grinding
I left tds for Tdx and I’m level 300 in tds, tds is just to laggy while Tdx is not as much
I quit tdx because I felt like it was kinda bland, it was overhyped ALOT, and the grind is just way to long, yes I gave it a chance because I was lvl 119 before I decided to leave the game, I’ll most likely give it another chance in like a year or sum
Rear admiral
game bland? ❌
you just suck and got all your levels from easy grind strats? ✅
@ Bru I didn’t even use strategies , if you just want to say that I should have never left TDX just say it.
@reconsider3735 opinions exist
@Legal_Gato You should have never left TDX 🤑
I like my tdx "alive" bruh
Roblox youtubers try not to call tdx a failure challenge
4:51 also it was a literal school project to add onto that
I think poeple only started to think tdx was in a competion bc when tdx released tds and started updating alot more with better updates
(Note I am not saying they were in a compaition just theorizing why poeple think this)
So let me get this straight everybody thinks that someone is winning yet nobody even is competition like what? It’s like starting a war over nothing but it’s not to an extreme level.
just question, how you feel about eradicator emote, cute or funny?
Why not Cute AND Funny?🤔
@mattdecosto1103 you can't have both
Toilet Tower defense being somehow the most popular one still confuses me.
But when it comes to every other TD game on Roblox its just some good old variety and no game is the same.
13:10 so sure tds is more child appealing than the more militaristic tdx but not by much but Skibidi toilet td is gonna attract way more kids than a td with a more cartoony style. And dude why are you insulting tds players calling them idiots I play tb, tds, and tdx what does that make me? ok I just watched 13:35 and all you do is insult tds players c'mon you just sound ignorant. other than that I agree arguing over which game beat the other is pointless
I can feel that this video is biased af. He kept trashing on tds players which is just funny at this point.
@@vereus6300does have point, the problem is how they word it
This video is the definition of the dunning-kruger effect
bro nobody uses that term
you do NOT sound smart saying that😭
@@Jik99-zp9dx I wasn't trying to sound smart, I was trying to call you stupid for assuming you're smarter than TDS players because you play a different tower defense game on a platform made for CHILDREN.
You are not better than TDS players, and TDS players aren't better than you. Next time you create a video like this, just be a *bit* less hostile towards TDS players. You are feeding into the constant hatred towards TDX, which leads to hatred towards TDS, which fuels the never-ending cycle.
While I have your attention, I should mention that TDS having more players more consistently does make it more successful, but they haven't "won" the non-existent battle.
Ok so the best event(frost invasion) coming back in tds didnt make the tds community satisfied?
It's a good thing I play every td game I could
Bc I like em
frost invasion was not the best event lil bro
@@thesmileman6931 ur probably gonna say solar eclipse
@@thesmileman6931 Ehh between hexscape its close but tbh it might be the best event
may I ask what's the game name?
In the background
Transformers Legends 2
Honestly I think alot of the comments here are just here to argue.
Maybe specify that its a response video since a whole lot of people seem to miss that
Honestly i strogly agree with the fact that the tds community is not as nice as the tdx community because most people in the tdx community are very helpful and the pros are really nice
While yes tds is not in competition and it never beat any game you ruin your arguments whit insults imo especially at 11:12/8:46 you could have worded those arguments less…agresive bc while yes 5souls seeing td genre as a competition is bad, tdx aint dead,tds might be esier(tho balancing is a Bit different in both games bc they are diferent games) there is no need to act all..like that. And can i just say something, i try to be as constructive as i can but man.. some tds/tdx fan just make the dumbest arguments and rhe ones that are legit and good just beuried between the pile of absolute SHIT. JUST SAY THE GOOD POINS,IS IT SO HARD TO BE ONLY CONSTRUCTIVE TO BE POSITIVE AND NOT NEEDING TO MAKE SOME DUMBASS TAKE OR INSULT???? and while yes tds might “appeal to kids” is not as lucrative as ttd and while yes some tds fans cant handle tdx and some complained just bc someone made a bs tjing doesnt mean the community is like that. and real quick, tds makes original updates and while some might look…similar they add an original spin to it(tho theres the consumables update..no i wont add pursuit bc its just one tower and tds is not restricted to one path stuff bc if so tdx also wouldnt need to have 1 path stuff so dont say that if you thought it was a counter argument). And i think im done, if you the reder have questions ho ahead and ask em and ill try to respond. Keep being ohio w rizz winter arc skibidi sigame still water something something rage and cya.
FUCK I SUCK AT TEXTING
ur biased tds fan, shut up, trash should be treated as trash
@serily4524 What makes you think you can give people the title of bias when you've been a biased tdx player since the start lmao, literally all your comments about tds are dogging on it usually just calling things trash instead of criticising, you are the dumb part of the tdx community.
God finally pointed that Tds community is dumber than a rock, no td games in roblox competed on each other, I as a Tower Battles Veteran, TB and TDS didnt fought, no compete, TDS community is just playing a more baby game, it aint that hard to grind, and to point it also, it became a gambling, transaction game..... And yes thanks for pointing this video out
Bro explain how it became a transaction game
Tdx fan trying to prove a good point abt tds without bringing up the community: impossible!!!
srsly though both games are cool, you can like both :p
@@ARandomDoodDoesn't change the fact that tds community is dumb asf(even tho im one of them)
@@ARandomDoodtds fan trying to not glaze and defend their sloppy game just cause its popular challenge(impossible)
@@ChilledTopHataverage tds timmy not understanding that something doesn't need to affect the gameplay to be a microtransaction
Glazing a game before it got release is crazy dawg
Say that to rell seas fanboys
Idk what the reaction if u say tht to real sea fans lol
Technically it is a released game, I don't know what you're talking about. If it's in private beta, that would be different.
tbh none of em will win, john and below are friends
make love, not war-
I am worlding all over my simulator with x while blitzing all over my ice breaker
*"Rushed TDS Frost Event 2024 vs Rushed TDX Halloween IV Event"*
*Rushed TDS Frost Event 2024*
= Delayed
- Bugs everywhere on Fresh Release
- Wave 30+ = Yandere Simulator FPS
- "Triple A styled battlepass" but nerfed
- No free Deluxe Crate as event
- Annoying Dialogue
- two of mid moments event towers
= somewhat Nostalgia pandering
= "Triumph a few Hards, then we're done"
= High quality skins in battlepass (but locked as paid)
= The waves were little threatening (Frost shielder and unstable ice is biggest threat)
+ Has VA and Cutscene
+ The song is alright
+ The map is good
+ Shirtless buff Ramiel
*Rushed TDX Halloween IV Event*
= Delayed
- Finding to matchmake feels stupid (min : must have gjugg and golden ranger)
- Has a same quality of Halloween III (feeling dissapointed)
- Never promises a VA or Cutscenes
= Event Towers feels like Meta and the FOMO is haunting you
= Nightmare Grumble is so cancer
= the Map is alright
= Reused enemies in alright way
+ Still Fun
+ Never or slight felt a Lag
+ Battlepass is completely free, but requires intensive grinding
+ The song is good
+ Tons of Replayability (because free but grindy battlepass)
+ The Waves had it's meaning (end of Wave 2, if u forgor bringing a anti air, you're dead fr)
You forgot to add buff shirtless Ramiel to TDS' pros
@@ClassicChlorinesure
Today I went to tdx discord and the first thing I saw is frost spirit walking out the map, tds just has too many bugs
@@TDX_Advisor it isn't a bug tho. that's a thing in elite mode
@@ClassicChlorineayo?
"my block game is better than yours and you are stupid and bad if you disagree."
because tdx was never a threat to tds
Mb dude i think I might've misinterpreted your comment
let go of the beef already man. below and john are friends you know
Tdx vs tds in the big 2024/2025💔
@@Chomper69420 I can already predict the "TDX PVP VS TDS PVP" videos happening next year 😭
Smartest Murder Drones fan:
i remember in early 2024 i REALLY hated tdx becaus of how awful the grinding was and john just continuously nerfed every decently fast grinding method
since then hes stopped doing that and even buffed rewards from every gamemode a lot up to now and tdx became my 2nd favorite roblox td game
...if only tds devs tried to fix the games issues as much as tdx devs have
he only nerfed GRINDING strategies, because at the end of the day, tdx is a hard game, and by just doing the same easy strat over and over again, you don't really get better at it. By nerfing grinding strats he forces you to actually play the game and engage with it's mechanics.
what issues?
@reconsider3735 theres a pretty clear difference between getting better at the game and doing the same thing over and over and over and over again just to get 1 new tower
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f the terrible grinding, despite me not being really affected by it anymore i can still see how AWFUL the grind is for stuff like engineer and all the golden towers
the game is also very buggy, like every other update theres at least 1 gamebreaking bug that lets you do something stupid that shouldnt be possible
As a player who has been 4 years in tds, gotta say fighting over 2 same games is nonsense, they are the same tdx is tds, and thats it
One very positive thing for me is optimization, TDX has much better optimization and it is difficult for the game to start to lag a way that makes the game almost unplayable while in TDS in both most recent events the lag was extreme
I lag in both game's events on my phone, so I'm confused here...
@4dstrawberry-l9z42f i also play in phone and the lag It's present in both games, but in TDS, for me at least, the lag is much worse, while in TDX the lag is present but not as severe as in TDS.
Can everyone just stop comparing both of these games like shut up and just play both games if you like them or do anything else then just comparing tds to tdx like dude just enjoy both of them and i hate it when people compare both these games who cares if tds or tdx events suck just enjoy them atleast
(This is not a hate comment ok i made this bc people are still comparing tds and tdx just shut up ok i just hate it when people compare both of them)
This is so stupid TDX wasn't made to beat TDS it's made because John wanted to make his own tower defense game
that's the point of the video lol😭
Well another yter trying to get views by yapping 15 minutes of nonesense
@fangediespinneyt What nonsense?
stay mad
cope tds fan
@serily4524 lmao i play tdx prob. Rn way more rhan tds 😂
@reconsider3735 i am not mad lol
Bro just hating tds community for 15 minutes 36 seconds
because the tds community are a complete hypocrites like they always complain whining like they want updates to be fast and lastly they change their minds after that update released because it was buggy it's their fault for rushing them
Bro most of tdx community is people that played tds so that means tdx fans are the same
@@АбебраАмигусович and yet they dont complain as much... almost like tdx is played by more mature people?
@reconsider3735 as i said if they play tdx they most likely play tds
Buddy the phrase Tds beat tdx is stupid both games are cool and is not a fight, when the players Will notice
You can't exactly blame tds for its community. Also by that logic ttd would be better than both as they love buying op
towers with robux and showing them off
Wait till tdx get invited to a boblox event
I would agree with your video except for a few things
-Not all tds fans are stupid, I play both tds and tdx and I don’t compare them. Also don’t act like it’s just tds fans comparing tds and tdx, there’s also tdx fans that compare them together
-5ouls himself said that he later disagreed with his video in the comments and because of that I assume he deleted it cuz he nolonger agrees with what he was yapping about
-This one isn’t related to tds or tdx but rather your video I don’t think the r slur was necessary
Other than that ig I agree with your points
I did say MOST TDS fans but yeah still
@@Jik99-zp9dx oh mb i mustve misheard that part then
The fact that TDS players tried to argue with TDX players thinking they could win by common facts
Yikes why can't both of the the communitys just accept the both games are great and kinda similar when we having a tds x tdx collab like wth
A flaming TDX fan tries to prove that his tower placement simulator is better than another tower placement simulator.
when did he ever say that tdx was better than tds
He never said that one game is better than the other, stop shoving words.
1:11 what is the name of the game?
Transformers Legends 2
Thanks
so i love tdx so much cuz i don't have any real progress in tds? i played mostly th before tdx came out so that would make sense
The whole video is of him laughing at 5ouls over his opinions of why tds is topping over every other tower defense games with the players tbh he made some good points at the start of the video and the rest was him trashing the tds community this just shows the immaturity coming from him
not opinions lies cope 5ouls stan
Yeah 5L's vid rly shows how braindead tds players can be
After playing tds for 4 years i can agree, 5ouls is so bad at his arguments tho
Yall stop yapping and be friends
Like of course 5ouls said bringing new ideas to the table is bad, tds has been copiying every other game for 4 years lol
I think thats why 5soul delete the video
@@UnrandomXD29He never deleted the video... You can literally see it when he showed his channel😭
@areus2244 lets see
@@UnrandomXD29 It's still there
11:10 the only thing you are wrong about. Can you not give the point if you dont even know what you are talking about lil bro
Can we just like both games and stop comparing the two of them oh my god
"TDS vs TDX" get out from home and touch some grass, oh, i forgot that there no grass cuz its ALREADY DECEMBER, WHY THEY STILL ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER?
They ruining the jolly mood 😥
They are equal for me i dont want either of them to be hated on i just want both games to go good
My guy both of these games are good, most of these points are critiques at TDS's community. It's been seen by both Below and John that they like eachother's games. Just say you hate TDS bruv.
criticism does not equal hate, get out of here tds fan, you clearly cant handle criticism over tds and its community, the game isn't perfect stop being ignorant
Exactly @serily4524
I mean, I have every tower in tdx aside from golden mine layer so like, I'd say i like both games
and while yes I agree that TDS has tons of flaws, my main gripe is how they are over shadowed by the main thing stated in this video which is simply stating the community is all dumb
@@ARandomDood not all, but mostly
First time hearing TDX hasn’t beaten TDS nowI’m reading thatTDS hasn’t beaten TDX what should I believe anymore?
Just believe both game will explode
Dont believe either side
Cool video. But honestly I have some issues with it.
First off, I agree with you on the topic of being no competition between the two games and that 5ouls just spoke gibberish for the most part. So nothing to put on that.
But. About my first issue would be that even while tds is more suitable for kids due to less mechanics and stuff it having greedy micro transactions isn't something that can be compared with tdxs micro transactions.
They both let you get level locked towers early with robux, infact if I recall correctly tdx has a "Starter pack" offer shoved into your face when you join it. So I'd say they're around the equal in the micro transaction side, if not tdx having a bit more.
For update quality, Id say tdx has slightly more quality updates. Going for a quality over quantity type of cycle. While tds is more of a quantity over quality. But I wouldnt say the updates they make are necessarily TOO bad. As tds community can't wait fucking 2 weeks without an updating, forcing the devs to get one out every week or so. Making it pretty hard for the devs to fix all the bugs even tho they have a huge team.
So I'd blame most of the community for that.
For around the part where tower battles comes brought up.
Yes, tds stole from tb. Alot.
But they had a few niche updates here and there. Also, tds being easier doesn't mean it's a 100% "kid targeted" gameplay. It's just a way to make begginers get used to the game easier, which kind of completes each other with tdx.
Tds being a more laid back experience, with tdx being for those who are more of a challenge seeker. So could say they both are for different type of people.
Anyways, nice video.
Btw, for those who might sys I glazed tds. I played both of the games and I still do.
I'm glad someone can criticize my views without being a whiny baby about it in this god-forsaken comment section
I do want to clarify that TDS also has the starter pack shoved into your face if you're a new player, they did that ever since the tutorial update I believe.
the devs of both games highkey need to address this shit. this stupid ass civil war has been going on for too long.
I hope you dont mind If i make a video about this same topic, cuz the issue needs to be addressed further.
9:55 average tds fan's iq
The owner of tower battles is a tower of battles event in tdx at the last moment, like seven hours before the game mode went out he tried to do it nightmare I think dog should be updating his game. I know who he’s active on Roblox.
Im level 300 on tds and 100 in tdx and i quitted tdx because i feel the main gamemodes expert and elite felt bland an unfinished and overall boring, but if they rework them ill sure be back
lowkey these points are kinda buns
point 1 - you provided zero evidence for why the TDX fan base is content with the game, you only provided evidence that says the player base hates TDS, which it doesn't. The videos you showed aren't hate, it's criticism.
also, the player count does also contribute significantly to a games success. If TDX had 10k players on release, and only averages 2k now, that means that the game isn't good enough for most players to feel rewarded to keep playing it.
just because updates role out quicker doesn't mean they aren't made with quality and care. Take the molten rework for example. also, TDX has been relying heavily on introducing a new tower almost every single update. this does not help the power scaling issue at all and how are players supposed to buy the newest tower if they just bought the last one?
also most of the video is just you saying "no" or "yes" to a certain point, then giving zero evidence on why it's correct.
you keep complaining "waaaaa waaaaa tds is more kid friendly!!!! waaa waaa" this isn't a bad thing, since TDS has expanded their player base from just older people to younger audiences. It doesnt make the game worse for also appealing to kids, it only makes it better, that's different from being a game for kids.
Whats your point, or did you even watch the whole video
here comes the tds glayers
Honestly, the frost event might have been rushed but I still had fun playing it
I like both games and I am pretty good at them too, but I don't really like the way TDS is going, especially with its greedy Battle Pass system, where it's gone SO BAD to the point it's not even worth doing and people are using TINYTASK to complete the battlepass, I feel like ever since Lunar Overture the game has been going downwards.
should of made your outro 2 minutes long ngl
THIS GUY IS SPITTING STRAIGHT FACTS🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
tds has more game passes then ttd but 5ouls said ttd is like a game made by corporate, tds has more game passes so the same could applied here. But i yet to have played ttd
tds fan and tdx fan should be friend on god except ragebait kids for tds and tdx.
I think one of the reasons tds's fanbase is "not content with the game" while tdx's fanbase is, is because of how tds's fanbase is MUCH MUCH bigger than tdx's. And more people equals to more complaining. Also tdx isn't that much fun compared to tds. Ive pretty much completed both games having all the towers except past events one and all i can say is tds and tdx are boring af. None of them won shit because tower defense games in general are just boring as hell. Tds and tdx are an example of that, its all just soul depriving grinding over and over again.
The event are pretty fun the first few times you play em but I do agree that the grinding is pretty boring most of the time.
The grind wasn't much in the tdx halloween event tho and the no path maps were pretty cool with the soundtracks being awesome.
"Tower defence games in general are just boring as hell"Have you played any td game outside of roblox?
more bigger fanbase doesn't always mean worse more complaining fanbase, if u want to have a good fanbase make a good game
Saying that tds games aren’t that smart is unfair and biased.
I play both tdx and tds and I can see a higher level of simplicity in tds but I wouldn’t say they are dummer I would say the lower level players lack effort.
because the game is dull and doesnt require any effort 😂
@reconsider3735 Fallen mode and hardcore mode:
I feel like TD games get made for 2 reasons:
1-Cash grab
2-To get a start and a small community for future and more complex games that the dev has in mind, as seen with tower blitz.
(I strongly recommend the 2nd one)
All TD games are crash grab even tdx Change my mind 🧐
@UnrandomXD29 td games are easy to make and pretty popular so small devs can benefit from the simplicity and the fanbase it can create, so I don't think that all td games are cash grabs.
@UnrandomXD29 also, I don't think tdx is a cash grab because, majority of gamepasses aren't necessary to win (like timescale) and still grindable (like coins). Yes, they do have flaws in how they handle progression still, they are improving a lot.
@therobloxbaconman Tds or Tdx is not cash grabbing in my point of view, they did not force you to buy their products at all.
@@UnrandomXD29 May you point out what you think is a cashgrab game and a game with passion in your view first?
TDX and TDS are doing their own things and have never tried to compete with each other and never will
Same with tb and tbz
@dandersaur1022 lies
@@PenumbrasTDSWdym "lies." The owners are literally friends 😭🙏 I hope that says enough.
@@Shereen3 @Shereen3 dawg im level 468 in tds and level 120 in tdx, if you think I don’t know that you are delusional. and them being friends doesn’t mean they don’t compete with eachother what is wrong with yall bro
@@PenumbrasTDS Your level in both games has nothing to do with this argument. My point is that both game owners share ideas (implied so), and therefore, it wouldn't make sense to consider it competing when they're helping one another.. Saying that they're competing can cause indirect toxicity between both communities, I've seen it happen.
Bro is coping over roblox, just play whatever damn game man.
"coping" tds fan spotted when they see criticism
@serily4524What…?
He literally just said to enjoy whatever game ya want.
@serily4524 im not the one who made a whole video bashing a game I don't like. people that truly fight which game is better are stupid. again, play whatever one you like.
criticizing is a normal thing little timmy and u seem like u cant handle seeing ur beloved tds getting criticized, too bad tds is not as good as u think, this is why people dont like the tds community, bunch of immature brats that cant take simple criticism of their flawed game and community
@serily4524 look at you over a game, jokes on you I played both tds and tdx. both are fun good games. if you seriously get worked up this much over roblox it's maybe time you seek healthier hobbies. grow up.
I hate all the TDS 5 year olds saying TDS isnt stealing anything and they are just adding in common ideas, meanwhile looking back at all the updates TDX received were copied within a week by TDS (ex: heli tower added to TDX, some days later TDS reworks pursuit), i'm a fan of both games but i'm leaning on TDX's side because of TDS becoming too cartoony.
tds copied the entire design of commander and other towers on tb lol huge coping
@serily4524 warden was copied, barracks from tdx and tb were copied by tds as mercenary base, intermediate mode from tdx being copied by tds with the same name at launch (intermediate mode in tdx being the first iteration of tower hp, tds making their intermediate boss be able to kill is just next level copying)
@Viktorr572 4/10 ragebait
@Viktorr572I'm pretty sure there wasn't a boss that could kill towers since 2023
@@onemsizbirvarlk5318 please read what you just wrote because i do not understand what you mean.
Bro is NOT CrazRex