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hey youre mean

Below and John seeing there fandom have a world war:

People say TDS beat TDX because of the playercount, much more eventful updates, much more active developers and lots of changes rolling in, NOT JUST PLAYERCOUNT. 5ouls also addressed in the pinned comment that he just wanted to share his thoughts (iirc), so I don't necessarily think that matters. I wonder why he deleted though. Egg is also just a massive complainer bro (my dude made like 10 of these vids this year ALONE and got away with it meanwhile mert makes three vids and gets entire vids tryna debunk his points). Check out my comments on his vids if you want to learn more (especially his recent one and cashgrab one) TDX's community is more forgiving (overall) too. Both games have different gameplay, but TDX is NOT COMPLEX in the slightest, and I'd argue they're actually on par in terms of complexity. Also for monetization, all I'm gonna say is TDX has been out for one year, while TDS has been out for more than 5. And despite that., everyr obux tower in TDX costs MORE than every gamepass in TDS. As a TDS player I couldn't find any flaws (on the surface) when TDX first released and I enjoyed it more than TDS to be honest. ALSO STOP DIRECTING EVERYTHING AT TDS PLAYERS AND STEREOTYPING THEM!! THIS IS JUST FACTUALLY INCORRECT TO CALL EVERY TDX CRITICIZER A TDS PLAYER. TDS also fixes their updates pretty quickly, and I've noticed a lot less bugs with them (generally speaking), which is cool, considering the game has super outdated code. I disagree with you saying they're unfinished/rushed. I actually enjoy TDS updates a lot more than TDX updates since they actually prioritize reworking their outdated game, unlike TDX (the game ain't even outdated, but the main modes are, and we've gotten next to zero info on it). The quality of these updates is also subjective. I could argue TDS's updates are a lot higher in quality, but the entire argument is subjective either way. 2 - competition is NOT bad. This type of competition between TDS and TDX isn't bad (I'm talking about the games not communities), wanna know why? Because both games have been getting better overtime by competing. TDS has locked in with weekly updates and is prioritizing reworks, while TDX is adding a lot of new content. If these games weren't competing, we wouldn't be seeing this many updates for both TDX and TDS. In short, there is good and bad competition. Bad competition would be developers arguing with eachother, while good competition is essentially TDS and TDX, because it brings a lot to the table by encouraging the devs to push out better updates. 3 - the souls vid not going to address this because here are some patterns I see here, and I want to emphasize another point here. >laughing and pointing fingers at 5ouls because you disagree w/ him >saying he "lies" because you disagree w/ him >unnecessary bashing >contradictions "this argument doesnt make sense", "at least his other arguments made sense" I also want to emphasize that you keep on directing things at the TDS community. Sure, some of the community is FILLED with bad people, but that doesn't mean the entire community is bad. And even then, you're acting like EVERY TDX HATER is a TDS player. It's just not true. ANOTHER thing I wanted to point out is that you crash out over the TINIEST criticisms, meanwhile you make entire videos trying to defend TDX and start bashing creators who make TDX criticism videos. It's just so hypocritical. that's all

Bro got roasted in the comments lol

Maybe specify that its a response video since a whole lot of people seem to miss that

Nvm

Bro, these games have 1k and up concurrent players every day, and a game that has 1k+ concurrent players means that your game is good and the best.I dont understand why people are comparing things like this everyday.

Honestly I think alot of the comments here are just here to argue.

Cool as fuck

Some people forget that tdx copied tower blitz and also I have never seen a brawler type tower in tower battles And no hate btw

damn tb and tdx glazing goes shit

This is so stupid TDX wasn't made to beat TDS it's made because John wanted to make his own tower defense game

webcam will be missed 😔🙏🏼

Cool video. But honestly I have some issues with it. First off, I agree with you on the topic of being no competition between the two games and that 5ouls just spoke gibberish for the most part. So nothing to put on that. But. About my first issue would be that even while tds is more suitable for kids due to less mechanics and stuff it having greedy micro transactions isn't something that can be compared with tdxs micro transactions. They both let you get level locked towers early with robux, infact if I recall correctly tdx has a "Starter pack" offer shoved into your face when you join it. So I'd say they're around the equal in the micro transaction side, if not tdx having a bit more. For update quality, Id say tdx has slightly more quality updates. Going for a quality over quantity type of cycle. While tds is more of a quantity over quality. But I wouldnt say the updates they make are necessarily TOO bad. As tds community can't wait fucking 2 weeks without an updating, forcing the devs to get one out every week or so. Making it pretty hard for the devs to fix all the bugs even tho they have a huge team. So I'd blame most of the community for that. For around the part where tower battles comes brought up. Yes, tds stole from tb. Alot. But they had a few niche updates here and there. Also, tds being easier doesn't mean it's a 100% "kid targeted" gameplay. It's just a way to make begginers get used to the game easier, which kind of completes each other with tdx. Tds being a more laid back experience, with tdx being for those who are more of a challenge seeker. So could say they both are for different type of people. Anyways, nice video. Btw, for those who might sys I glazed tds. I played both of the games and I still do.

this is a statement that is completely *FALSE* 👺

lowkey these points are kinda buns point 1 - you provided zero evidence for why the TDX fan base is content with the game, you only provided evidence that says the player base hates TDS, which it doesn't. The videos you showed aren't hate, it's criticism.

Love the design

This video is the definition of the dunning-kruger effect

A flaming TDX fan tries to prove that his tower placement simulator is better than another tower placement simulator.

snowflake lol

Tbh I kinda feel like the only “competition” between the two games is sort of the type of indirect competition that two companies tend to have like Xbox and PlayStation.

THIS GUY IS SPITTING STRAIGHT FACTS🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

Beating my shit to those images rn

Ong NoL 2.0 real?!

why would you use intro?

Toilet Tower defense being somehow the most popular one still confuses me. But when it comes to every other TD game on Roblox its just some good old variety and no game is the same.

Wbout tds

İmprovements very nice

Not forever during that time grinding was a breeze I was speed running release party revenge in 10 mins my fastest run was 9: 47 its not a problem for me and you could also speed run incident not just release party revenge I would say its easy because its litterly the normal grind for units except its not as bad because it was easier during when mastery update released was the prime of grinding strats like the amount strats that make a bunch of bricks are insane the age of grinding was probs during this time like the grind was easy for everyone if you know how to speed run release party revenge your set like just 2 hours a day is enough to get you a bunch of bricks

as a level 150 in tds and level 107 in tdx tds and tdx were not meant to be the same game tdx and tds has their own qualities that make them unique im not going against tdx or tds but im definitely judging the guy who made the video he complains and complains about how the people who play tds are babies when he is the most whiny bitchy fucked up piece of shit child i have met your points are genuinely retarded whenever i heard any good points you contradict it instantly just stfu theres a reason nobody likes you

the new changes looks dope

Ngl you gotta be quiet man, didn't you play tds? Infact you were complaining about a furry skin. Zoinks man

PLEASE READ FIRST!! This comment is not meant to put down TDX. Trust me, the game is absolute FIRE, and it's actually pretty fun, with good updates and gameplay. What I am putting down, however, is this video. Content creators like this in my opinion are blinded by hate, anger, and ambition. They want their game to come out on top. This results in hate videos like this. This creator I can tell, has not fully played or evaluated TDS with an actual mind. He is just stating his opinions STRONGLY AGAINST TDS because people have been saying TDS is beating TDX in success, making him angry I guess. So, much love from TDS, I am NOT hating against TDX, but instead deeply criticizing this video because of how outright false this information is, consisting of just his opinion with NO clear evidence. Here is some detailed criticism by breaking down the whole video, along with my opinion. NOTE: I am a TDS fan but whilst writing this I take no sides: Im honestly so surprised on how far people will go to "win". Like honestly the rivalry is not even real unless it's between small content creators thirsty for attention. 5:39 also this makes no sense why are u posting this vid then ur acting like this is a competition. Also there is no way around competition bro just because it isn't "officially stated" competition is inevitable. Competition isn't just head to head, it's indirectly made for other games to reach the top. You could anime adventures "beat all other ads games by showing high quality and surpassing many other games. 7:56 In a genre like tower defense I don't understand how you "steal" ideas in tds. Take a look at tdx and tds. Look at how similar these towers are. It's not like they outright stoluefrom each other. It's basically impossible to come up with towers that would make sense and be balanced, whilst also not making it similar to other game. 8:48 like chill bro ur obviously just mad lil bro we can all hear ur voice ur probably crying in anger rn Im not saying ads is the almighty best, but dude chill its a video game. Your laughing is 100% forced ad out of anger lol. Both of the communities are sick of these content creators. 9:45 are you stupid you dont understand. He means TDS beat TB while they were still updating. 10:29 its not like Below WOULDNT update his game just because tower battles didn't update. That's not the whole motivation of a project. 10:09 to all the people who want to hear person teak so hard over a game lol. Ur laughing bro what. Also the TDS updates nowadays are actually polished, diverse, "especially events", and come out EVERY WEEK. TDX also has vey high end updates, events, and unique towers. Im just pointing out. When you get so one-sided, it's hard to notice positives on the other side, something I try to avoid. Just to also point out TDS is hard a f***, and can be confusing for younger audiences. The UI may be simple, but the difficulty in which. you must strategically farm (get towers that make money), upgrade, and place can be fun and challenging. 12:45 watch this through carefully, this is true stupidity. 5ouls is not saying that TTD did NOT beat TDS. He is simply stating that TTD seems more of a low quality, cashgrab game that bandwagons onto a highly child appealing trend that could make them famous. These factors causes the game to be a bit more low end and it looks as if the developers dont really care. He is saying that TTD DID beat TDS, but the quality of TDS is better, and he feels that it may have deserved to win.I also dont understand how TDS is a child apealing game. The UI looks simple, but Im not sure that's the reason TDS is actually doing okay. I dont get what you mean by "Low attention span kids", as TDS matches take lots of attentiveness due to their balanced tower, whilst also being fairly long. 13:29 damn this guy is stupid as hell. TDS PLAYERS ARE DUMB AS BRICKS? "DONT KNOW HOW TO STRATEGIZE?" Look at all the strategies the TDS communities created. They are exact, precise, and are actually hard to follow (unless you have some experience doing strategies in TDS.) 14:45 They were. You see, game competitions isn't so straight forward. It's not head on eval. Both games just try to create new updates, that may lead them to surpass another game in popularity with high end updates. This is done so they high climb higher uo the tables, for more recognition. They are not supposed to diss each other, more of a battle between frequent and good updates. I dont understand why so many people are so sour over this. NO HATE TO TDX FANS!! YOUR GAME IS FANTASTIC! Im just saying how these certain people are acting so stupid, blind, foolish, and mad over a natural cycle throughout development. 14:10 he meant new ideas are good, but constantly releasing new towers and skins becomes so boring and common, it becomes unoriginal, no matter how unique it is. Instead, you could add new gametes, challenges, and more unique gameplay ideas, instead of just some random towers that come into your mind. 14:24 I think your to stupid to understand his "gibberish", but he means that because TDS has used this format for so long, it forms its own identity. He means that TDS has established themselves as a unique game, although it could be similar to others. This makes it seem more appealing, and more fun. ANYWAYS IF YOU READ THIS WHOLE PIECE OF WRITING, GREAT JOB! Feel free to like if you agree! TDX fans other than this creator please tell me some things that may be unclear as I am mostly a TDS player. (I still play TDX, which is why I feel valid to provide actual clear evaluation.) EDIT btw this video Stop Falsely Criticizing TDX For Views (Roblox Rant) highly goes against most of his arguments here. Just look at 5mins and 6 secs in in that vid it says that some people think the game isn't for certain people like what ur vid here is completely against that.

6 videos and the webcams already gone 😭

tds fan and tdx fan should be friend on god except ragebait kids for tds and tdx.

This… is a bucket. And also a guy wearing it i guess

nice art

Bro gonna get his female alternative version

Welcome to the club lil (I think???) bro

I thought this war ended already 😭

Can we just like both games and stop comparing the two of them oh my god

this society is cooked

trash cannot be enjoyed(tds)

Wait till tdx get invited to a boblox event

As a tds player i also hate the tds community, they are the most ungrateful people on this earth i swear... and instead of enjoying updates they try to point out the most inconveniences possible instead of enjoying the game. They also have like 0 logic when reviewing things too, they either just plain hate or make the stupidest points that can easily be debunked. Most of them also dont consider why it might be reasonable for an update to have flaws, for example Operation ice. For pretty much any game, the Christmas event will usually be in more of a time crunch than the Halloween event due to how much time is in-between Halloween and Christmas. For tds, after Halloween they had updates such as pls donate event, commando rework, pursuit rework, molten mode rework and sandbox mode. Those are 3 pretty major updates and 2 huge updates all made in the time between Halloween to Christmas, because they've worked on so much AND the Christmas event, its very likely and reasonable for it to have more flaws. People dont consider these things and need everything to be perfect no matter the circumstances. Ty for reading "allat"

why they can’t just play both games, why better thing to do for peoples is compèring both games?

13:10 so sure tds is more child appealing than the more militaristic tdx but not by much but Skibidi toilet td is gonna attract way more kids than a td with a more cartoony style. And dude why are you insulting tds players calling them idiots I play tb, tds, and tdx what does that make me? ok I just watched 13:35 and all you do is insult tds players c'mon you just sound ignorant. other than that I agree arguing over which game beat the other is pointless

this looks like that one NoL character did NoL get his from coutner too?

They are equal for me i dont want either of them to be hated on i just want both games to go good

The whole video is of him laughing at 5ouls over his opinions of why tds is topping over every other tower defense games with the players tbh he made some good points at the start of the video and the rest was him trashing the tds community this just shows the immaturity coming from him