Audi A3 no clutch... Fault finding and repair. READ DESCRIPTION!
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I got this car, because the clutch was not working...
What initially has been diagnosed as the slave cylinder, soon revealed to be something else... (At least to start with...)
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it.
Although driveable, later I found that this car DM (Dual Mass) flywheel, was on its way out... this work was then performed at another place, as it is easier to do it on an elevator, due to having to remove the gearbox etc...
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Have exactly the same issue in a vw Touran.
Quoted £490 to fix.
I’m two hours I’ve got everything I clipped and I’m waiting for the spare part.
I know if I went to a garage, I wouldn’t be quoted that but I think every man should be able to service and do basic repairs on a vehicle they own.
The brake fluid level does not go low in these vehicles because the feeder pipe for the clutch system is very high on the brake fluid reservoir. Even if there is a leak on the clutch system the fluid in the reservoir reduces up to the point of the feeder pipe.
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Most cars with this approach are like that...
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Excellent, same as mine with cassette deck; brilliant; I've (still!?) hundreds of cassettes, for the car, which sound as good as anything else, if not better, for playing in the car!
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Hi, my pedal also went to bottom! But slav cylinder is Placed inside gearbox, my car is a quattro, so workshop must go in and replace it! They also got me a new coupling, 2000 pound repair went for, nice he?
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Wow, my clutch is currently falling like that and I struggle to select gears. The oil has been changed twice in a month now but by different people. They both said I have to change the master cylinder, but the quotation including labor is on another level. Labour is 3x price of the cylinder. I am still trying to figure out what to do, thanks a lot for the video.
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@@LMAutoRepairs Master cylinder has been changed but mechanic says the clutch is still sticking and suggests he changes another cylinder and other things in the gearbox
@@missq9320 Hi, did you change the slave cylinder in the end?
Learned something new today I too thought it was the slave in the belhousing,should be metal rod.
Well done again keep up the great content.
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i had the same problem however my master drew air . I did the job removal from engine bay. The pipe assembly needed to be unhinged to get it out of the cilinder. The 2 halfmoon plastic tab are a nightmare to reinstall while in the car . bleeding air on the system slave is also extreem difficult as trapped air in slave wont just come out. I prefill slaves on clutch job due to this.
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Hi Luis, clearly the new Sachs m-cyl is modified with the flutes on the side of the pushrod as I know these to be troublesome, but plastic parts eh! years ago that would have been steel & never would have broken! Inbuilt obsolescence these days is rife. Do observe one thing though, the color of the brake fluid was black, usually indicative of rubber seal failure somewhere in the system may be the concentric slave cylinder seals are starting to fail, cover your backside man, it may fail in short order! Tell the customer of their discolored fluid & what it may mean. Keith
Thanks Keith!
Have you read the description of the video?
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@@LMAutoRepairs Lol Luis, I Hadn't read it until you just said! there you go then the flywheel problem was causing the concentric slave cyl to 'overstroke' & flex the m-cyl pushrod as it bottomed out many times = too much stress on the pushrod= SNAP!. All too common with all dual mass flywheels also bloody expensive! I'll text you soon Luis. Keith
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Heroic work saving that man all that money 💪🏻
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Certainly saved the customer a few quid there , excellent job . Why they make things out of plastic baffles me !
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It is cheaper and weighs less...😉
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good video most common proublem is master bursts usually because clutch pedal was heavy had one or two with this proublem
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Nice video, I have the same problem
For what it takes 3 8mm bolts and 3 block connectors from the light switch remove that panel the the 3 13mm nuts take the pedal outits so much easier and I advise get a new white clip coz they always brake iv done loads why make things harder
I have one... this..
Thank you for the suggestion...
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Thank you so much for posting this up, my shaft broke right at the end inside the master cylinder, i can still use it thank god but at least I'm now confident to sort it, still need ti take pedal out though because the shaft is stuck in that end and the spring dropped out 🤦🏼♂️
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I am sure you will get it done!
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Can you help me too guys i have audi a3 2009 fwd.it start but theres no power to pull,i just change the oil then went down..thankss
You saved me a headache i was told it was my clutch
The last time I worked on a car with that much plastic in the build it was made by Airfix
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@@LMAutoRepairs @GTI Mod Blog Bro, what happens if you a Dual Mass Flywheel fails? What's the consequence?. I mean using the car with a Dual Mass Flywheel failing ? Will it work normal but making a noise only?
And probably a lot of vibration...
Brilliant job yet again an honest assement of the fault and repair, I bet the customer was relieved.
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Hi Luis,thanks for this video & the tip for just twist & turn the Clutch Master Cylinder to come out ! Saved a lot of hassle! Funny enough got the same colour vehicle too lol😂😂. As always mate keep up Good work & God Bless 😅😊😊
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Just done a oil pump drive on a A3, So much fun..
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Nice one!
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Big smiles as you were in like a ferret to find out the problem...well done agn, Luis. 8-)
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I have an Audi A3 8P (2007) i had an issue like this.
My master clutch cylinder broke in the same way as in the video. The reason for why it snapped is because of it suddenly having a whole lot of pressure in the clutch pedal and the plastic rod just couldn't take it.
I got the master cylinder replaced and all was fine. But after around 60 days I began having problems shifting again. The clutchpedal sometimes went back slowly instead of as it normally should when let go.
I had the brake fluid replaced which is probably the reason for it holding up a bit longer than it should've.
What I believe is the issue for my case is that the slave clutch cylinder may be leaking or maybe it gathers air. I'm not a mechanic, so I am simply speculating.
What do you guys think it may be? The master cylinder did break from the begining, but it doesn't seem to be the cause of the issue.
Hi Milan, did you find out what was your issue? :)
@@kopenhagdakiadamimiz Slave cylinder. Clutch worked fine after changing the slave cylinder. Got that repair done about 6 months ago and I no longer have those issues.
@@milani5300 How much did the repair cost in total? Mine started doing that and a friend of mine said his cost like £3000 to get it sorted out.
@@eugenechelseafc89 It is an expensive repair as the slave cylinder is hard to get to. The part is pretty cheap but the work will be what is expensive
I live in Sweden and I went to a smaller business to get it fixed. This separately would have costed a lot less than £3000. In my case I had a total that was around £3000 including some other repairs.
I recommend you to ask a mechanic for an estimate before start. I also recommend you to let them take a look around if they find anything else that may be loose or worn. In my case they found that my flywheel and timing chain were a bit loose, I also had a crack in my valve cover. They also noticed that my drive belt was damaged.
I got all these parts changed for around £3000.
With these parts changed I also got rid of some noise that I had before. Ran smoothly after this.
@@milani5300 Thanks for the reply. I've just had my Audi A3 16reg fixed after encountering the issue on Saturday. Car brokedown at my house and I had to get the breakdown guys to tow the car to the garage where they specialise in clutch repairs. It turns out it was the slave cylinder that was leaking. The dual mass flywheel also got replaced, as it was on its way out, along with the slave cylinder and other parts. The whole job cost £1370. I'm gutted that I had to spend that amount out of the blue but at the same time I'm glad the nightmare's over.
First, First, First !!!! Do a purge of the pedal and replace all the brake liquid with new. With a syringe and a little plastic tube suck all the liquid. Press completely your pedal and suck (to suck receptor liquid).
In my case (leon 2.0 tdi 170 2010) with the same symptom all goes well since 1.5 year since the problem.
The problem was that some dirt come to the system in the pedal, that lock the movement (in my case).
This one was slightly different... as per description...
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Glad you got the laughing shaft sorted. 😀👍
Tough situation this one, I'm not a fan of over quoting, good will goes a lot further in our trade, but I'd hope the high quotes were for the clearly broken rod AND a new clutch as this was probably the cause
Indeed!
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Wish you would show part numbers of new parts required as this would help you viewers source new parts
My bad...
Easy to find them though...
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Thank you for sharing this video🙏👍🇸🇪
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The great German 'premium' car con. Win over customers with the interior quality, but use cheap and feeble plastic components for critical parts not seen by the average customer.
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I wonder why there’s an electric plug on the clutch pedal? Maybe that’s what stops car revving over 3k when clutch is down, also I guess u need to depress clutch to start some cars
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Yes... correct...
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We’ll explained, thankyou for sharing.
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20 grand car wen new made from plastic . you saved the guy some money there
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True...
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Good job,but you should of recommended the owner of this car to flush the brake fluid as it's so dark ,it was dripping black drops while you were holding the master cylinder.
I did...
Have you read the description of the video?
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@@LMAutoRepairs Yes I did,I always do :)
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As they say "patience is a virtue" but man watching this video tried my patience. Thanks for the diagnosis, but man oh man....what a Looooonnngggg winded story you told there.... ( I think this story could have been told in about three minutes tops. )
Like all my videos... they can be done in a third of the time... my objective is not to show the problem, and then show it fixed...
My objective is for people to understand the process, the struggles, etc...
My videos are definitely not for those looking for silver bullets...
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Can you describe how you bleed the clutch hydraulics please?
By opening the bleeder...
Just like any other similar system...
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a bad slave cylinder can cause the break in the shaft on the master. The slave binds up and a human leg is strong enough the snap the crappy plastic parts used by VW/Audi/Skoda
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Nice One mate, thanks for sharing.
Do you think the DMF failing was a cause of this Slave cylinder peddle connector breaking ???
Not sure... it could be that the owner have forced the pedal... I don't know...
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This fix is only temporary. It will need a clutch kit and flywheel very soon. Unless the failure was due to heat from the exhaust.
@@RumelM What is the relationship, if i may ask?
Need a similar video for 2003 mk1 audi s3 8l the 1.8t Quattro 225bhp BAM engine code
When I remove the cylinder from the engine bay do I need to pull the shaft out of the cylinder towards the white tubs in the pedal
Hi mate got a audi a3 1.6 petrol not going into 3 and 4 and advised
You forgot to show how to disconnect the pipes on the rear of slave cylinder inside bonnet cause that's the bit am stuck on the but video jumped that bit
how did you figure its master problem
Thanks for your time and effort, my issue is with a skoda, but all the hardware is still the same. Just one question, do you think the cable and pipes would pull through into the drivers bay? it would be a lot easier if it did, I ask as the engine bay on the skoda looks even more crammed full of stuff.
Don't think it does... but might be different on that one...
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I can’t get the plastic rod to come out the back of the peddle any ideas ?
So I need to pull the pedal off too?
I have a mk7 gti the clutch is slipping in the morning but when I drive the car for a while it’s good I bleed it but same problem
Probably the clutch it self is on its way out...
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I actually took it to a mechanic he said the clutch is 100% good
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If the clutch is slipping, either is your clutch, pressure plate or flywheel... there not mutch more to it...
I have this issue I had done 3 clutch’s in 2
Years now my pedal has finally gone replaced the clutch and slave and still no pedal breaks are
Fine .where did you buy this part and what is it called
Can't remember where I bought it... sorry...
It is the master cylinder...
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hi. i have 08 passat 2.0T 6spd manual. last night i lost my clutch, i can press pedal and it comes up. but cannot put in gear. how can I tell if its master or slave cylinder. No leaks anywhere.
Did you fix it ?
It is possible that something is broken inside this pump? I have the exact same problem and i dont want to spend 1k euro to replace the entire system like most of the mechanics want from me
It is possible... you need to investigate...
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I’ve got Audi A3 2011 and I’ve got no clutch . Similar to this . Not sure if it’s slave cylinder or master cylinder. Help!
Hi Luk have you found out what it is?I have the same problem!
@@jrjamoles4873 I have the same problems on a 2013 2.0 TDI. My mechanic said Geabox Off job☹️
@@brokenmanbrokenman5222 replaced MC - still sucking air.End up buying those bleeding kit combine with traditional pedal pumping 20 times then bleed work a trick😁 at least at the moment🤞
Audi will say master cylinder bcz they just want the big money..
CAN BELIEVE HOW INCOMPETENT VW AUDI MECHANICS ARE THAT THEY CAN DIAGNOSE A SIMPLE FAULT .... Great video....
Audi main dealers are total bandits. My a4 went in for a cam belt and was later informed the oil seals needed replacing on the camshafts and the camshafts had to be removed to do this at a cost of an extra £400 . My Audi had only 40k on the clock so I believe it was all lies. Never went back again .
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Great fix.. Thank you for another great video!
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How easy is it to replace only the white plastic clip inside the pedal assembly? They commonly break and make an annoying clicking sound everytime i step on clutch. I have replacement clip that the ball of the cylinder rests inside. I want to replace without havnt to completely remove and bleed cylinder. Do you know if thats possible? Thanks
Never attempted that... sorry...
Hello, I have just bought a 2008 A3 1.9tdi and the battery light is coming up on 1 turn of key and it struggles to start and when it does the engine cuts out at low revs at junctions. Battery was changed this winter and the seller claims nothing like this has happened to him.
Do you have any suggestions please? Many thanks.
Check the alternator voltage supply...
Have the battery tested as well...
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Good job Lewis that's an extremely cheap & weak design by VAG
I believe it is indeed...
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Hello sir, did you have any problems getting the clutch hose to snap back into the master cylinder?
Don't think I did...
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Thank you very helpful
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Hello sir, do you know the clutch sensor position? Where it is?
I think is by the pedal... if I recall correctly...
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Just done this job struggling to get the pipe on the bottom with the clip to be air tight is there a seal that could have fallen out?
Indeed... it is a bit tricky... specially if yo8 have big hands...
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Fuck me so i replace the master cylinder after getting cuts and scratches on my arms and hands, i lose one of those rubber things that holds the pipe together after finding it i try bleeding the clutch and the spring flew off the pedal
@Ben Shea yes there is a seal
Can you show the bleeding process please
Just a normal bleed...
Next time I will try to record it...
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Can you please explain to me how you fit the gasket coz mine falls off when i disconnect the pipe towards the slave cylinder.Thanks in advance!
Can't remember now... sorry...
I did it somehow though...🤷♂️
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You need to properly push it on thr pipe so it snaps in place
Great fix.
Thanks!
My clutch pedal is light till half way down it had a new clutch just over a year ago should I replace the clutch master cylinder
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It is a possibility... but do all the checks before you do it...
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Check if the spring is missing or dislodged from the pedal.
After the replacement of the Master cylinder (by a mechanic, not me) the clutch become very hard to press.
Need new clutch pressure plate be weak
@@chrismills9346 I did that also. Did not solve the problem.
I have the same problem, because the spring in the mechanic has come out of position, and the pedal is blocked.
hi, my A1's clutch pedal has been sticking, and outside of the car I hear a hissing sound, as if I was trying to fill a punctured tyre. Is it the slave cylinder?
Or the bearing...
Just guessing though...
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Thanks for this great content
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How do the other pipe come off do u just pull it 🤔
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I really don't remember now...
Sorry...
See if there is any tabs that needs pushing... or something along those lines...
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Hi were is the bleeder on gearbox or pedal
There is no bleeding on the pedal if I am not mistaken... the bleeding point is on the slave cylinder...
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nice job
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Hi Luis, I admire your channel, but... as soon as someone starts broadcasting his work, he should stop doing it 'garage' way - showing how you mess around with car fluids, in this case dripping breake fluid all over your driveway, is not a good example to follow. The rest is top performance as usually. Peace! 😜
I always try to minimize the spillage... I usually collect the fluids and dispose them in a recycling center near me...
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When you reach the pearly gates you will be rewarded my son.
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Any idea 💡 what year car effected oil pump failure?
Not really... sorry...
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How did you bleed it?
The normal way...
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No mention of changing seals which is very important.
Which seals are you referring to?
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He's referring to the seal for the pipe going to the slave.
Thank you very useful . Just concentrate on the important things . To much talking without coming to the point
The talking is part of the learning...
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GOOD ONE THANKS !
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you replaced master cylinder, not slave.
Don't think I said I did the slave... but I might mistakenly did said it...🤷♂️
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Can you translet in french please...
I would advice anyone never never by from a Audi company deal or you will pay over the nose these people live of your commission and laugh at you because hes just ripped you off big time
Do not buy an A3 if that is a indication of the engineering.
Well, guess you can add a lot more cars to the list... many parts on many cars are made of plastic nowadays... Lol
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Very helpful thankyou
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