if you want the best battleship of all time HMS Warspite has the most battle honours of any battleship I think. she might not have been the most powerfull or biggest but my god did she serve with distinction
At about 2:10 there's a shot of USS Washington, right after the announcement of "South Dakota class." Sorry, but the Mighty W was of of the North Carolina class - two ships that preceded South Dakota, Massachusetts, Alabama, and Indiana.
For those pining for the Bismarck, it did have a substantial flaw, in that it’s Fire Control wiring was laid ABOVE its armor - quite a weakness, it turned out.
Bismark It was a decent battleship but nothing special. It got lucky with a shot on Hood and that made everybody think it was almost invincible. Hms Prince of Wales damaged her causing her to head for Port for repairs and pow was a mess due to being a new Battleship as it had many operational faults due to not being fully tested and was not fully operational with some gun turrets jamming and not operational. Hood was a Ww1 Battlecruiser and sailed the seas for over 20 yrs before Bismark was even built. Bismark hit the ocean floor days after Hoods sinking before her paint had chance to dry. I don't get why a one hit wonder was turned into a legend as it was not in my book.
You're certainly american man !!! Dont' you forget the Richelieu and her sister ship Jean Bart and the Vittorio Veneto, the Littorio etc...in your ranking ??
yeah Richelieu was pretty darn good and Roma (Littorio class) was one of the best ever made tbh if you do extensive research only really Iowa is above it
The Iowa Class Battleships were basically a lengthened version of the North Carolina Class with more powerful engines, and the South Dakota class was a shorter version of the North Carolina with the more powerful engines that would later be installed in the Iowa class - same armor scheme, fire control systems, secondary and AA layout - aside from engines and lengths (hence top speeds) only major difference between the 3 classes was that the Iowa class had 16"/50 caliber guns whereas the NC and SD classes had 16"/45 caliber guns - both guns fired the same shells with the same accuracy, but the 50 caliber gun had a range of 41,000 yds vs. 37,000 yards for the 45 caliber guns
@@onlythewise1 NC class - beam = 108 ft 4 inches, SD and Iowa classes - beam = 108 ft 2 inches - beam is virtually identical, only 2 inches different and the North Carolina class could transit the Panama canal as well, since the canal posts a maximum width of 110 ft - my point remains: the Iowa class was merely an improved version of both the NC and SD classes with the only major differences of main armament (as previously noted), length (thus displacement) and horsepower - armor thickness and layouts were virtually identical among'st the 3 classes. The first US Navy warship design to exceed Panamax limits was the (planned) Montana-class battleship.
Greatest by influence and combat record, Bismarck, Yamato, Richelieu, Iowa, Texas, KGV, Rodney, New Jersey, Warspite. Warspite is the Queen, closely followed by her American Cousin New Jersey, both fought like Tigresses and survived. Warspite edges it by being in the middle of Jutland, so fought savagely in WWI and WWII. Warrior Queen Warspite, with Warrior Princess New Jersey...
OK, from looking @ this, I must say that there are too many 1st-rate battleships to determine an accurate ranking order. Not playing World of Warships, I wouldn't have the stats & specs right there to even give it a try! And yes, I'll add my voice to those who say that if the Warspite had been American, we probably WOULD have preserved her.
The greatest battleship of them all was HMS Warspite. And it's not about guns, or armor, speed, or tonnage. It is in what she did. In two World Wars she stood in the line of battle and exchanged broadsides with her countries enemies. She stormed up a fjord in Norway and broke up an invasion fleet, firing, for all intents and purposes over open sights as she destroyed a squadron of destroyers who should have been firing torpedoes. She fended off repeated air attacks and, although Stukas damaged her in the Mediterranean, she lived to fight another day. She scored the most distant hit on a moving enemy ship of any battleship or battle cruiser in any fleet, any where. She did it all, and no other battleship can say that. And then the cretins in the Admiralty scrapped her. It makes you wonder.
Unfortunately many of these forums are dominated by the Americans and their definitions of GREAT. I agree with you HMS Warspite was the greatest battleship of all time...she's been there and done that. I think it is ironic that if she had been American, with her history, they would have preserved her.
Joe Butterman. That with the most distant hit is not true. The german fast Battleship Scharnhorst managed to hit farer than the warspite. According to my source the HMS Warspite hit the Giulio Cesare at about 26000 yards(23,7km) while the Scharnhorst hit the HMS Glorious at slightly less than 26420 yards(24,1km).
To be fair, the Warspite was barely holding together when it was retired. She'd had a serious pounding during her career and the likelihood of her being refurbished after a war like that was zero. Not really the Admiralty's fault - just a fact of life. A real shame though.
@@felix25ize Which was probably not moving, otherwise, everyone would just talk about, what sniper capabilities the Rechelieu has. Additionally I highly doubt that the dispersion of the Quad-Turret would make it possible to hit anything at that range.
10. Kongo class 9. Colorado class 8. King George V class 7. Queen Elizabeth class 6. Bismarck class 5. Scharnhorst class 4. Littorio class 3. South Dakota class 2. Iowa class 1. Yamato class Based on both naval power and service...
Why is it that the Class forever linked to Pearl Harbor, travel more miles, fire more ordnance, cover every major landing, participate in the last ever battleship versus battleship confrontation, awarded 8 battle stars, and the Navy Unit Commendation always overlooked? Well at least it was pictured leading the charge to Luzon!
+Peter Pan because their capability is not as good. The Standard battleships however does see a lot of action. Well action that not much people normally would like to see from battleships so they are normally neglected. Yea they saw combat in Surigao strait, but anyone that read up on it knows how uneventful and one-sided the battle was. personally, that battle was pretty bland.
This is your own ranking. Just giving me two cents: Richelieu, Vittorio, Vanguard and King George V were all superior to the Queen Elizabeth, Nagato and Nelson. You may value service history, though.
Any last generation BB is going to be superior to a WW1 design so absolute comparisons are of no use. You can really only compare impact, service history and technological improvement if you're looking at the history of the class.
I think Warspite is and should be one of the favourites of most BB fans, its sheer bravado, and lets be honest blind luck in some cases. It was just out there doing things. If any ship deserved to be preserved it was this beauty
nelson was pretty good as well as nagato, i's say nelson would make it due to an immense broadside and being rather modern, whilst nagato is a faster ship then qe and nelson.
It seems like you only thinking about offensive capability. I Iowa class for example had to trade in armour for speed so it could keep up with carrier groups, and also armour to fit in the Panama canal because of displacement. Speed does mean it can stay at range it it chooses and it did have 50 caliber barrels for extra range, so I guess it works out.
Speed should also have been considered, which would have dropped Nelson lower. Richelieu needs to be on the list, and also HMS Vanguard, which was clearly superior to many ships listed.
I stopped watching after you said the Colorado class had 9- 16" guns (it had 8), and then had two pictures of class, one with triple turrets, other with 2 gun turrets. Don't put up site if you don't know crap.
If we’re talking top 10 modern battleships for their time, it’d probably be, from best to worst; Iowa Class, South Dakota Class, North Carolina Class, Yamato/Musashi, Richelieu/Jean Bart, Bismarck/Tirpitz, Littorio Class, HMS Vanguard, Nagato Class, King George V class. Based loosely on service history as well as overall quality of ship, fire control systems, guns, AA capabilities, etc.
I want to point out that the North Carolina class was designed to withstand 14 inch projectiles. The South Dakota was designed to withstand 16 inch projectiles. Otherwise the ship were comparable in armament and speed. So I don't know why most people rank the North Carolina Class superior to the South Dakota class. Then the Nagato had 8 guns which used 16" shells much lighter and inferior to the nine 16" guns of the North Carolina and South Dakota class. The ten newer American battleships had the best air defensive armament in the war and it was usually aircraft that brought about the end of battleships. That has to count for something.
Interestingly had the Americans been at war with Germany in 1941 they had nothing with which to counter the Bismark The North Caroliners were late 1941/42 and although they were the first American " fast " battleships- they failed to reach their designed speed due to excessive vibration!! The USS Washington was sent to re enforce the home fleet as a counter to the Tirpitz threat and unless they scored an early hit on her engine room , they were no where near fast enough to keep up with the Tirpitz. I imagine this was kept secret throughout the war.
On trials, her vibration began at speeds above 24 knots and increased to the point where it knocked out the ship's radar. In addition, she was only armored against 14" gunfire- one of only three classes of capital ship designed after the cessation of the treaties not to meet the "balanced armor" concept (with Iowa and King George V classes).
Queen Elizabeth Class was great in WWI but was obsolete in WWII..Churchill called them "coffin Ships"….You have a picture of USS Washington in with South Dakota class..She was of the North Carolina Class…The Colorado Class was too slow and obsolete for anything except shore bombardment…What about the Italian Littoral class and the French Richlieu class???They were superior to the Colorados, Queen Elizabeths, Nagatos and Nelsons…..
I have to say that the bismarck was the best. The Only ship That could walk away from any of these fights was the Bismarck cause when you see what German are capable of you would be scared of how accurate there precision they have. They sunk about 10 ships with one shot each(two for the HMS Hood. So the Yamato would die before they know what hit them. And also to add the bismarck was the fastest Battleship ever to sail the see.
GhostRider655 wrong, Bismarck top speed 28 knots. Iowa class top speed 33 knots. Additionally, AA Battery was crap and 15" main battery was inferior to 16" 50 cal or 45 cal of top 10 U.S. battleships. Top of the line in 1940 maybe, by 1942 no way!
Bismarck and tirpitz were famous cuz they were hyped by the british. Put this ships on the pacific theatre and they would easily get sunk due to their bad aa. American and japanese counter parts are better
To be honest, Hitler hated battleships because of its lack of defense against AA. That's why he found it useless to put AA since it would still just get destroyed just like yamato. But lets be honest, it was about to destroy 2 battleships almost single-handedly. Bismarck was the greatest ship at its time.
She did not destroy two battleships. She destroyed the hood but not POW. The POW was so new her guns were not set to work and she still had dockyard workers on board. At some times she only had one turret working. She still hit the Bismarck and ultimately helped settle her fate by causing her to lose fuel. KG5 also had gun problems during the Bismarck fight.
Bismarck was an old fashioned design with poor armour arrangements and vulnerable electronics. She was hard to sink because she was big and had small compartments due to her lack of need for long deployments. Well made but the Germans did not have the interwar experience to keep up with the Allies.
@@sydlemon5285 Indeed Bismarck and Tirpitz were overrated ships. Big and powerful, yes, but essentially built to post WW1 designs - because the Germans had no experience in building major warships after 1918. Bismarck's first engagement, when she sank Hood with a lucky salvo, and then caused Prince of Wales to flee did a lot for her reputation. But it is noteworthy that when engaged by King George V and (I can't recall whether it was Rodney or Nelson) she did little damage to either ship while herself being pounded into a wreck.
My favourite BB is the Bismarck. Took out Hood imediatly after the engagement started and forced KGV to retreat than even if alone it took so much effort to sink her. I've also heard that the torpedo planes that attacked her were hit by it's AA armament but the shells failed to detonate in time or so, the planes were full of holes.
The Germans have always maintained it was the Heavy Cruiser the Prinz Eugen who fatally hit the Battle Cruiser HMS Hood, not the Battleship Bismark. The Poms insist it was the Bismark so as to not feel embarrassed their Battle Cruiser was taken out by a smaller Heavy Cruiser
The USS Colorado class were armed with eight - 16 inch guns, not nine. the Colorado class was a direct competitor of the Queen Elizabeth class and possibly the later Nelson and |Rodney and the Japanese 16 inch gun ships of the same post WWI period. The Hood was a supersized battle cruiser of the same era, and until the start of WWII, the largest warship in service in the world. The (second?) USS Washington class was probably the first of the "modern" battleships that saw service in WWII, being considerably better armored and faster than all previous battleships and armed with the latest large caliber, long range rapid fire main guns. Battleships against other battleships is the only fair way to rank them - strictly as big gun ship vs. big gun ship. That was the basis of the design. Comparing how well the ships could defend against air attacks is irrelevant in comparing ships of a type that were rendered obsolete by the advances of air and submarine power that began during WWI. Sort of trying to compare which army's Calvary Regiment could best fend off an ICBM attack....
To many errors in this list I have no idea where your getting your displacements for one. It Showing images of the Colorado you use one of the Pennsylvania and don't tell me the second ship in the line is the Colorado, that doesn't count.
Both the North Carolina and South Dakota classes were built to the Washington Naval Treaty limit of 35,000 tons. although they did add some tonnage during the war from increased and improved anti aircraft armament. Your listed tonnage of 40,000 tons is inaccurate.
Hood was a battlecruiser not a battleship. Big difference. Prince of Wales was brand new ship and had not completed testing when sent after the Bismarck.
The South Dakota herself was a bad ass of a ship. She helped sink the Japanese super battleship the Kirishima. Even when most of her electronics where destroyed the ship itself severely damaged. But the South Dakota with the help of the Washington managed to sink the Kirishima, take out dozens of Japanese planes and take out 4 Japanese destroyers. And a Japanese heavy cruiser all in the same battle down in the Philippines
@@jameswoodson1292 All the damage was done by USS Washington. South Dakota failed to land a single hit. USS Massachusetts, South Dakota's sistership, did help to sink the battleship Jean Bart during the battle of Casablanca, where she also sank three destroyers, three abandoned passenger liners, a cargo ship, and a floating dry dock.
Ranking military technology like this is one thing I dislike, without proper indication of what you are ranking. Navies have different needs. Italy could focus on speed over range unlike the French who focused on a balance of the two. Britain had to focus on getting the most ships from their tonnage far more than other navies who had far less sea to keep supremacy over and most navies respected the Washington Naval Treaty, unless you are Japan then you crank that ships tonnage to max and exploit more loopholes. Unless a ship outclasses another in every respect can one truly rank it without specifications. All warships have their place in a navy and deserve equal fascination and interest as others. Warspite, Bismarck, Texas, Victory, Illustrious, Enterprise, Washington, Belfast, Prinz Eugen, and Laffey the Benson not Summers class are just some of my favorites, not for their paper stats but service record. Edit: also anyone wishing to learn more about individual ships, battles, or any subject naval history related I recommend Drachinifel a RUclipsr completely dedicated to naval history.
How come Nagato would be over South Dakota , SD had more and more modern 16” gun , faster, and had better AA since she is American. As as other suggested, Richelieu and Roma are very capable and efficient design even though will little battle record. Then there’s the Bismarck, powerful ship for Germany, but it was far from efficient for its displacement, most other ships up there are about more efficient and with better battle record, Schanhorst class are slightly faster, better armoured, though with less firepower come with smaller displacement and more successful raids than the Bismarcks, I think Schanhorst should be there instead.
The Bismark is translated as the worstest battleship from germany to ever float in the sea because it didn't have proper AA, actualy neither german ships have proper AA.
Have to agree with many of the comments, nagato and colarado class shouldnt be in top 10 at all, king george V class would have to be in top 5, nelson/rodney ok but it better then woukd have built 5 of them like king george V. Vanguard is the improved king george V and has to be 3rd behind yamato and lowa class cant be anything but number 1 as equal firepower in real terms to yamato but much more accurate and successful. Bismark and Tirpitz hard to rate as they hardly saw action, bismark with an incredibly lucky shot on Hood.
@John Higgins My 1st. statement was true . . . they are all great ships, I'm sure even you will agree to that. It was simply MY view, something I feel strongly about . . . anything wrong with that ? The 2nd part was too give praise to ALL members of these ships . . . which I also thought deserved to be mentioned, and was true in an offbeat way. I was trying to point out the human element in war and how it can and does effect the outcome. Don't think for a minute I'm unaware of the numbers that each ship possesses, I can read the data as well as anyone. But I try to look deeper and notice other factors that contribute to a great ship. Now, why did you bring your dog into this ? What are you specifically objecting to ?
I watched the video again and am even more certain I'm not off-base. 75 years ago battleships were at the top of the food chain. And as such, all were designed as best as possible. They were marvelous in what they accomplished, in every aspect. In some cases just their appearance would prevent conflicts. BISMARCK offered beer to it's crew. IOWA's possess a full chemical lab. The OREGON steamed around the ''horn'' on coal . . . unescorted. They are all great ships. We've got nine which can be visited, do one at least. Get out of Warcraft thinking.
Anas Mahmud no, South Dakota was the lead ship of four that were commissioned after Pearl Harbor. Two still survive as museum ships, Alabama and Massachusetts.
No. The South Dakota was still fitting out. Pearl Harbor Battleships; Nevada Oklahoma Pennsylvania Arizona Tennessee California Maryland West Virginia Also, the demilitarized Utah.
Marcello Zapelini ; On December 7, 1941, U.S. Battleships in the Atlantic were... Arkansas New York Texas New Mexico Mississippi Idaho North Carolina Washington (running sea trials) The South Dakota's were still under construction... South Dakota was completed in January' 42 Indiana & Massachusetts were completed that May. (About a week apart.) Alabama in August '42. Cheers! ☺ Also, the Colorado was in the Pacific Fleet. She wasn't at Pearl Harbor. On December 7, she was in San Deigo. That's all of them.
The Nelson's don't belong, she along with the Richelieu's were very poor compromises. And the Yamato's were "paper tigers" with neither the crew training or experience to survive an engagement with the Iowa's.
The only real compromise was speed. She was better armored than Bismarck, had bigger guns and better radar. It only took one salvo from Rodney to finish Bismarck as an effective fighting unit. Put Bruno out of action and destroyed the central fire control systems. Bismarck did not score a hit.
Joe Molvar keep quoting Nelson,in my humble opinion most famous British battleship was HMS Rodney,involved in numerous operations,including the battle with Bismarck,also helped to get the Ohio in to Valletta harbour ,instrumental with her 16” guns in destroying the German armour on D day,shame they never kept her at the end of the war,her only failing was her slow speed,but a brilliant ship.
Most famous British battleship has to be the Warspite. She saw more action than any other ship in modern Royal Navy history, holds the record for the longest range first time hit on a moving enemy (probably) and scuppered herself on the way to the breakers yard.
The order of appearance needs to be modified. The South Dakota Class was better than the North Carolina Class. Both the South Dakota Class and the North Carolina were better that the Nelson Class.
Joey Knight the Iowa class was four ships; Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin. They are all identical; additionally, two others were never completed, the Kentucky and Illinois.
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This is very poorly researched, King George V class was 42,751 tons standard & 46,088 tons full load, Queen Elizabeth class was 33,110 tons standard & 33,790 tons full load, Bismarck class was 41,700 tons standard & 52,600 tons full load and so on. I couldn’t watch anymore, mistake after mistake it’s utter nonsense!!
Yamato class never sunk another ship or even performed in a successful operation, but this list has them at #1 above the Iowa class. The list is more like most hyped battleships.
Joe, you know nothing ! Littorio's guns outranged and out penetrated both Iowa's and Yamato's guns (Yamato pen better @ < 26k) Littorio's Terni cemented armor was best of WWII. Such that Littorio's 13.8 inch turret faces were equal to 32 inches of Iowa's Class B (aka homogenous armor) turret faces, surprising eh ! Littorio's decapping armor belt was only rivaled by Yamato's. Look it up ! See navweps, Okun etc.. But if you look at combinedfleet you will only get dumber and more ridiculous.
+311nonono not true, Vittorio Veneto class had exceptionally powerful guns but penetration still did not match that of the Yamato or Iowa classes. The range is only couple hundred meters farther than yamato's guns but loses A LOT of penetration due to lower mass of the 15" shells. It's armor quality is not that much superior, i have read the sources you listed. Navweaps, Okun and Combinedfleet I have read.
Hey I even Agree. The Only ship That could walk away from any of these fights was the Bismarck cause when you see what German are capable of you would be scared of how accurate there precision they have. They sunk about 10 ships with one shot each(two for the HMS Hood. So the Yamato would die before they know what hit them. And also to add the bismarck was the fastest Battleship ever to sail the sea. But the Yamato could shoot the exact distance as the bismarck which could also be used as artillery which is more than 30 Miles. ;)
Dustin Kelley Bismarck armor is not capable of stopping Yamato's guns at any range. German radar was also incapable of beyond the horizon. So Both Yamato and Bismarck would prefer to close the distance. Bismarck gun. Bismarck would need to be *shorter* than 18km to even able to penetrate Yamato's belt armor. Both nation have showed good firing accuracy, and poor ones too. But that is up to the crew which i will generally ignore since human factors are hard to quantify. In a technical standpoint, both ships can hit each other accurately at 24km without need of spotter planes. While Bismarck can potentially strike more vulnerable areas, it will also means it does not hit anything vital to Yamato. For Bismarck to win, it will need to hit the FCS of the Yamato. The odds of that is not very high. However Yamato can hit ANYWHERE and still deal significant damage, so the chances of Yamato being able to land a fatal hit first is much higher than that of Bismarck. Under this logic, Yamato will win majority of the time. Also the Iowa class is the fastest BB to ever set sail at 33 knots. Bismarck is 30 knots.
1: Roma 2: Yamato 3: USS New Jersey 4: HMS Warspite 5: USS Washington 6: USS Massachusetts 7: Giulio Cesare 8: HMS Rodney 9: Bismark 10: Vittorio Veneto
The only reason why the Musashi and the Yamato didn't do well was because they were up against a much more productive foe (US). I'd bet on the Yamato to go against any German battleship and win, I'd also bet on the Yamato to go against any British battleship and win.
they were to big so they were a big target to go after. and they were super slow with reloading. and they were not good against fighter planes . it would be good for ww1 but not ww2.
That's battleships in general. Battleships were not a key choice in WW2 as aircraft made them obsolete. The Yamato was still a powerful battleship even though it was taken out by aircraft.
its to powerful that its useless because your enemy would have a big priority to sink it.if you have a big battleship at a base they are going to attack that base and the battleship. you don't want really powerful battleships you want ones that wont be a big threat but still get a job done you don't need 18 inch guns when 14 inch guns will get the job done.
Very subjective choice. At least two of these ten are rated as among the world's WORST warships in Antony Preston's book. There is more than one criterion for assessing how good a warship is.
Really .All these late date battleships were obsolete after it was shown that planes could sink them.I think that was done after Ww1. As matters of national pride they continued to be built. Airpower from a carrier was the future. Neither the Bismark,the Tirpitz or Yamato did anything significant. They were vastly overrated as threats. Big carriers maybe passe except in certain shuttle uses.
After WW1 aircraft were still in development for practical use. Of course navies were already converting and experimenting with aircraft carriers, take HMS Eagle, but the doctrine for navel engagements remained. The traditional line of battle had remained from the beginning of the age of sail and the aircraft carrier battles only dominated the Pacific theatre. In the Atlantic and Mediterranean they were used for strikes and on maintaining air superiority, take Illustrious in the British Mediterranean fleet. This due to the lack of any opposing aircraft carriers and aircraft were more than capable of launching airstrikes on opponents in traditional battle and for Germany if one of their surface raiders engaged even a cruiser let alone a proper British fleet they would be put out of operation for repair. The combat you explain was untested and not expected for all navies. But of course as you said BBs were built for combat but as well as a status symbol for a nation.
Took Bismarck 6 salvos to sink Hood (that would be up to 48 shots). Bismark then fired 5 salvos at Prince of Wales hitting her 4 times (out of 40 shots) without affecting her sea worthiness, speed, or knocking out any guns. In Bismarck's final battle Rodney did most of the significant damage, responsible for knocking out most of Bismarck's guns. This is usually attributed to Bismarck steering gear being damaged, but Bismarck's guns were not disabled, it was still steaming and it was not traveling in a straight line or constant arc - it was not a sitting duck. Bismark failed to score a single hit in its last battles against many destroyers, several cruisers and 2 battleships. It had plenty of targets.
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if you want the best battleship of all time HMS Warspite has the most battle honours of any battleship I think. she might not have been the most powerfull or biggest but my god did she serve with distinction
She was in the Queen Elisabeth class so is included.
Typo... Colorado class had eight not nine 16 inch 45 guns in pairs in four turrets.
At about 2:10 there's a shot of USS Washington, right after the announcement of "South Dakota class." Sorry, but the Mighty W was of of the North Carolina class - two ships that preceded South Dakota, Massachusetts, Alabama, and Indiana.
Multiple errors in captions and incorrect photos. Very little research done.
For those pining for the Bismarck, it did have a substantial flaw, in that it’s Fire Control wiring was laid ABOVE its armor - quite a weakness, it turned out.
XD !!!! And the engine orders were delivered by little pixies.
It was also sunk on its first voyage.
Bismarck made only 1 lucky hit in its cheap career :)
Bismark It was a decent battleship but nothing special. It got lucky with a shot on Hood and that made everybody think it was almost invincible. Hms Prince of Wales damaged her causing her to head for Port for repairs and pow was a mess due to being a new Battleship as it had many operational faults due to not being fully tested and was not fully operational with some gun turrets jamming and not operational. Hood was a Ww1 Battlecruiser and sailed the seas for over 20 yrs before Bismark was even built. Bismark hit the ocean floor days after Hoods sinking before her paint had chance to dry. I don't get why a one hit wonder was turned into a legend as it was not in my book.
The biggest question is what do you base this on? Innovation? Service time? Power? Armor? Speed?
You're certainly american man !!! Dont' you forget the Richelieu and her sister ship Jean Bart and the Vittorio Veneto, the Littorio etc...in your ranking ??
yeah Richelieu was pretty darn good and Roma (Littorio class) was one of the best ever made tbh if you do extensive research only really Iowa is above it
My grandfather served on HMS QE during ww2
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The Iowa Class Battleships were basically a lengthened version of the North Carolina Class with more powerful engines, and the South Dakota class was a shorter version of the North Carolina with the more powerful engines that would later be installed in the Iowa class - same armor scheme, fire control systems, secondary and AA layout - aside from engines and lengths (hence top speeds) only major difference between the 3 classes was that the Iowa class had 16"/50 caliber guns whereas the NC and SD classes had 16"/45 caliber guns - both guns fired the same shells with the same accuracy, but the 50 caliber gun had a range of 41,000 yds vs. 37,000 yards for the 45 caliber guns
nope they made the iowa narrow so it would fit in the panama canal
@@onlythewise1 NC class - beam = 108 ft 4 inches, SD and Iowa classes - beam = 108 ft 2 inches - beam is virtually identical, only 2 inches different and the North Carolina class could transit the Panama canal as well, since the canal posts a maximum width of 110 ft - my point remains: the Iowa class was merely an improved version of both the NC and SD classes with the only major differences of main armament (as previously noted), length (thus displacement) and horsepower - armor thickness and layouts were virtually identical among'st the 3 classes. The first US Navy warship design to exceed Panamax limits was the (planned) Montana-class battleship.
@@erichammond9308 no the north Carolina was a improved version to then
Greatest by influence and combat record, Bismarck, Yamato, Richelieu, Iowa, Texas, KGV, Rodney, New Jersey, Warspite. Warspite is the Queen, closely followed by her American Cousin New Jersey, both fought like Tigresses and survived. Warspite edges it by being in the middle of Jutland, so fought savagely in WWI and WWII. Warrior Queen Warspite, with Warrior Princess New Jersey...
I hear that
The Bismarck was sunk on its first voyage so was an utter failure.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329exactly.. She got a lucky shot on Hood and became a legend. Even though she was on the ocean floor shortly after Hood.
I have seen a few battle ships - but to come along side the Iowa - it takes your breath away - a real monster but a beauty.
My list
10 Nagato
9 Nelson
8 Bismarck
7 Richelieu
6 north carolina
5 littorio
4 South dakota
3 Vanguard and King George V
2 Iowa
1 Yamato
What about HMS Rodney? It destroyed the Bismarck.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 9 Is Nelson and Rodney. The sister ships are included on the list but I just wrote the leadship of the class
OK, from looking @ this, I must say that there are too many 1st-rate battleships to determine an accurate ranking order.
Not playing World of Warships, I wouldn't have the stats & specs right there to even give it a try!
And yes, I'll add my voice to those who say that if the Warspite had been American, we probably WOULD have preserved her.
The greatest battleship of them all was HMS Warspite. And it's not about guns, or armor, speed, or tonnage. It is in what she did. In two World Wars she stood in the line of battle and exchanged broadsides with her countries enemies. She stormed up a fjord in Norway and broke up an invasion fleet, firing, for all intents and purposes over open sights as she destroyed a squadron of destroyers who should have been firing torpedoes. She fended off repeated air attacks and, although Stukas damaged her in the Mediterranean, she lived to fight another day. She scored the most distant hit on a moving enemy ship of any battleship or battle cruiser in any fleet, any where. She did it all, and no other battleship can say that. And then the cretins in the Admiralty scrapped her. It makes you wonder.
Unfortunately many of these forums are dominated by the Americans and their definitions of GREAT. I agree with you HMS Warspite was the greatest battleship of all time...she's been there and done that. I think it is ironic that if she had been American, with her history, they would have preserved her.
Joe Butterman. That with the most distant hit is not true. The german fast Battleship Scharnhorst managed to hit farer than the warspite. According to my source the HMS Warspite hit the Giulio Cesare at about 26000 yards(23,7km) while the Scharnhorst hit the HMS Glorious at slightly less than 26420 yards(24,1km).
To be fair, the Warspite was barely holding together when it was retired. She'd had a serious pounding during her career and the likelihood of her being refurbished after a war like that was zero. Not really the Admiralty's fault - just a fact of life. A real shame though.
@@Zakahia Richelieu is the only BB who suceeded to touch a target from 40 km at the second round.
@@felix25ize Which was probably not moving, otherwise, everyone would just talk about, what sniper capabilities the Rechelieu has. Additionally I highly doubt that the dispersion of the Quad-Turret would make it possible to hit anything at that range.
10. Kongo class
9. Colorado class
8. King George V class
7. Queen Elizabeth class
6. Bismarck class
5. Scharnhorst class
4. Littorio class
3. South Dakota class
2. Iowa class
1. Yamato class
Based on both naval power and service...
The Bismark is probably the most famous battleship of WW2 but the USS Missouri had the longest act of service. WW2 through Desert Storm.
New Jersey wassecond.
Scott Mottaz Sr HMS Warspite. Her Battle record is far superior
Warspite....the rest ;)
These battlewagons are down right beautiful . yeah baby !!!!!
Except the Nelson-class those are Oil Tankers with guns lol
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Richelieu class not even mentionned. Stupidity or ignorance? Should be at least ranked 3 ...
ah my fellow naval pal don forget the italian fleet they built some beautiful ships as well and the french and the russians
The Dunkerque is my favorite French battleship
Bismarck is my favorite battleship
Turpitz
Why is it that the Class forever linked to Pearl Harbor, travel more miles, fire more ordnance, cover every major landing, participate in the last ever battleship versus battleship confrontation, awarded 8 battle stars, and the Navy Unit Commendation always overlooked? Well at least it was pictured leading the charge to Luzon!
+Peter Pan because their capability is not as good. The Standard battleships however does see a lot of action. Well action that not much people normally would like to see from battleships so they are normally neglected. Yea they saw combat in Surigao strait, but anyone that read up on it knows how uneventful and one-sided the battle was. personally, that battle was pretty bland.
This is your own ranking. Just giving me two cents: Richelieu, Vittorio, Vanguard and King George V were all superior to the Queen Elizabeth, Nagato and Nelson. You may value service history, though.
Any last generation BB is going to be superior to a WW1 design so absolute comparisons are of no use. You can really only compare impact, service history and technological improvement if you're looking at the history of the class.
Jack Rolfland: The KGV was mentioned or shown in this video.
I expect service history was taken into account. If so then HMS Warspite alone would put the QE Class in the top 10.
I think Warspite is and should be one of the favourites of most BB fans, its sheer bravado, and lets be honest blind luck in some cases.
It was just out there doing things.
If any ship deserved to be preserved it was this beauty
nelson was pretty good as well as nagato, i's say nelson would make it due to an immense broadside and being rather modern, whilst nagato is a faster ship then qe and nelson.
HMS Warspite 1913 - 1950..... the VERY best!
The Yamato shall always be my number 1 warship of all time
Italian "Littorio Class": Littorio,Vittorio Veneto,Roma,Impero. over 46.000 tons - 9 381/50 guns... Please,update your video.
Hear-Hear. Very handsome ships. Art Deco interiors . . . could have passed for cruise ships.
Ahem... the Richelieu class battleships.
It seems like you only thinking about offensive capability. I Iowa class for example had to trade in armour for speed so it could keep up with carrier groups, and also armour to fit in the Panama canal because of displacement. Speed does mean it can stay at range it it chooses and it did have 50 caliber barrels for extra range, so I guess it works out.
HMS Vanguard is forgotten once again…
Scharnhorst ??
Speed should also have been considered, which would have dropped Nelson lower. Richelieu needs to be on the list, and also HMS Vanguard, which was clearly superior to many ships listed.
and colorado would not be present
I stopped watching after you said the Colorado class had 9- 16" guns (it had 8), and then had two pictures of class, one with triple turrets, other with 2 gun turrets. Don't put up site if you don't know crap.
well that with triple turret was a pennsylvania class battleship (to which arizona belongs to) and had 14" insetead of 16" guns.
Vittorio Veneto Roma littorio erano sicuramente superiori alla Nelson e Queen Elizabeth questa lista e stilata da un incompetente
If we’re talking top 10 modern battleships for their time, it’d probably be, from best to worst; Iowa Class, South Dakota Class, North Carolina Class, Yamato/Musashi, Richelieu/Jean Bart, Bismarck/Tirpitz, Littorio Class, HMS Vanguard, Nagato Class, King George V class.
Based loosely on service history as well as overall quality of ship, fire control systems, guns, AA capabilities, etc.
Richelieu would probably be worst than the King George V's due to its disgusting salvo spreads
I want to point out that the North Carolina class was designed to withstand 14 inch projectiles. The South Dakota was designed to withstand 16 inch projectiles. Otherwise the ship were comparable in armament and speed. So I don't know why most people rank the North Carolina Class superior to the South Dakota class. Then the Nagato had 8 guns which used 16" shells much lighter and inferior to the nine 16" guns of the North Carolina and South Dakota class. The ten newer American battleships had the best air defensive armament in the war and it was usually aircraft that brought about the end of battleships. That has to count for something.
Interestingly had the Americans been at war with Germany in 1941 they had nothing with which to counter the Bismark The North Caroliners were late 1941/42 and although they were the first American " fast " battleships- they failed to reach their designed speed due to excessive vibration!! The USS Washington was sent to re enforce the home fleet as a counter to the Tirpitz threat and unless they scored an early hit on her engine room , they were no where near fast enough to keep up with the Tirpitz. I imagine this was kept secret throughout the war.
On trials, her vibration began at speeds above 24 knots and increased to the point where it knocked out the ship's radar. In addition, she was only armored against 14" gunfire- one of only three classes of capital ship designed after the cessation of the treaties not to meet the "balanced armor" concept (with Iowa and King George V classes).
The South Catalonia was definitely the best battleship of all itme. Or it would have been if Spain had ever built it.
1. Yamato
2. Iowa
3. South Dakota
4. Bismarck
5. King George V
6. Littorio
7. Richelieu
8. Nagato
9. West Virginia
10. Queen Elizabeth
The Colorado class had 8 16inch guns in 4 twin turrets
awesome video
Queen Elizabeth Class was great in WWI but was obsolete in WWII..Churchill called them "coffin Ships"….You have a picture of USS Washington in with South Dakota class..She was of the North Carolina Class…The Colorado Class was too slow and obsolete for anything except shore bombardment…What about the Italian Littoral class and the French Richlieu class???They were superior to the Colorados, Queen Elizabeths, Nagatos and Nelsons…..
I have to say that the bismarck was the best. The Only ship That could walk away from any of these fights was the Bismarck cause when you see what German are capable of you would be scared of how accurate there precision they have. They sunk about 10 ships with one shot each(two for the HMS Hood. So the Yamato would die before they know what hit them. And also to add the bismarck was the fastest Battleship ever to sail the see.
Joan Holbrook Payne Colorado class had more than that, they were the best ships at the time, they couldn't even sink an unfinished one themselves
GhostRider655 wrong, Bismarck top speed 28 knots. Iowa class top speed 33 knots. Additionally, AA Battery was crap and 15" main battery was inferior to 16" 50 cal or 45 cal of top 10 U.S. battleships. Top of the line in 1940 maybe, by 1942 no way!
2:10 was north carolina class not south dakota class
No. The North Carolina lent its name to its own class.
@@tomvernon2123 i know jdiot
Bismarck and tirpitz were famous cuz they were hyped by the british. Put this ships on the pacific theatre and they would easily get sunk due to their bad aa. American and japanese counter parts are better
To be honest, Hitler hated battleships because of its lack of defense against AA. That's why he found it useless to put AA since it would still just get destroyed just like yamato. But lets be honest, it was about to destroy 2 battleships almost single-handedly. Bismarck was the greatest ship at its time.
She did not destroy two battleships. She destroyed the hood but not POW. The POW was so new her guns were not set to work and she still had dockyard workers on board. At some times she only had one turret working. She still hit the Bismarck and ultimately helped settle her fate by causing her to lose fuel. KG5 also had gun problems during the Bismarck fight.
Bismarck was an old fashioned design with poor armour arrangements and vulnerable electronics. She was hard to sink because she was big and had small compartments due to her lack of need for long deployments. Well made but the Germans did not have the interwar experience to keep up with the Allies.
@@sydlemon5285 Indeed Bismarck and Tirpitz were overrated ships. Big and powerful, yes, but essentially built to post WW1 designs - because the Germans had no experience in building major warships after 1918. Bismarck's first engagement, when she sank Hood with a lucky salvo, and then caused Prince of Wales to flee did a lot for her reputation. But it is noteworthy that when engaged by King George V and (I can't recall whether it was Rodney or Nelson) she did little damage to either ship while herself being pounded into a wreck.
What a stupid opinion
Vittorio Veneto
Also missiouri, Montana, tirpitz, mushashi, ijn Kongo, Arizona, Massachusetts,Texas
The one more thing the USS Missouri was a iowa class ship so she does count in this top 10 list
Mai Ong Texas deserves to be on the list
Montana was never built.
My favourite BB is the Bismarck. Took out Hood imediatly after the engagement started and forced KGV to retreat than even if alone it took so much effort to sink her. I've also heard that the torpedo planes that attacked her were hit by it's AA armament but the shells failed to detonate in time or so, the planes were full of holes.
The Germans have always maintained it was the Heavy Cruiser the Prinz Eugen who fatally hit the Battle Cruiser HMS Hood, not the Battleship Bismark. The Poms insist it was the Bismark so as to not feel embarrassed their Battle Cruiser was taken out by a smaller Heavy Cruiser
the bismarck show his power in a historical clash vs one BC and one BB .....and the yamato show than they can not sink a littel aux CVL.
They call ships "she" not "he"
The Germans call ships He.
But they did sink a cvl. USS Gambier Bay sank to a single hit and several damaging near misses from Yamato. USS Johnston was also sunk by Yamato.
The USS Colorado class were armed with eight - 16 inch guns, not nine. the Colorado class was a direct competitor of the Queen Elizabeth class and possibly the later Nelson and |Rodney and the Japanese 16 inch gun ships of the same post WWI period. The Hood was a supersized battle cruiser of the same era, and until the start of WWII, the largest warship in service in the world. The (second?) USS Washington class was probably the first of the "modern" battleships that saw service in WWII, being considerably better armored and faster than all previous battleships and armed with the latest large caliber, long range rapid fire main guns.
Battleships against other battleships is the only fair way to rank them - strictly as big gun ship vs. big gun ship. That was the basis of the design. Comparing how well the ships could defend against air attacks is irrelevant in comparing ships of a type that were rendered obsolete by the advances of air and submarine power that began during WWI. Sort of trying to compare which army's Calvary Regiment could best fend off an ICBM attack....
What about the vanguard class
The Vanguard was not a class
Members of the Vanguard class.
Vanguard.
To many errors in this list I have no idea where your getting your displacements for one. It Showing images of the Colorado you use one of the Pennsylvania and don't tell me the second ship in the line is the Colorado, that doesn't count.
Feel like the Texas should be on this list.
The PNolandS yes.
Colorado class more modern and more punch than Texas and sister ship New York. Texas’ 2-war Service record is undeniable.
You are right, but look what the n3g3 class was called
Both the North Carolina and South Dakota classes were built to the Washington Naval Treaty limit of 35,000 tons. although they did add some tonnage during the war from increased and improved anti aircraft armament. Your listed tonnage of 40,000 tons is inaccurate.
The Bismarck is probably the most famous ship of all time
Because it sunk the HMS Hood with one hit and Damaged the Prince Whales.
Hood was a battlecruiser not a battleship. Big difference. Prince of Wales was brand new ship and had not completed testing when sent after the Bismarck.
Noahs ark most famous ship of all time
Patrick McCrann The same applies pretty much to the Bismarck. There were still some deckhands on the ship during her maiden voyage.
HMS Victory?
But I'm still floating today's
South Dakota battleships always amazed me with their extraordinary antiaircraft guns. Lessons learned during the Pacific War?
The South Dakota herself was a bad ass of a ship. She helped sink the Japanese super battleship the Kirishima. Even when most of her electronics where destroyed the ship itself severely damaged. But the South Dakota with the help of the Washington managed to sink the Kirishima, take out dozens of Japanese planes and take out 4 Japanese destroyers. And a Japanese heavy cruiser all in the same battle down in the Philippines
James Woodsen *Fast Battleship Kirishima It's not Yamato
USS South Dakota didn't land a single hit on Kirishima. All of the damage was done by USS Washington.
@@jameswoodson1292 All the damage was done by USS Washington. South Dakota failed to land a single hit.
USS Massachusetts, South Dakota's sistership, did help to sink the battleship Jean Bart during the battle of Casablanca, where she also sank three destroyers, three abandoned passenger liners, a cargo ship, and a floating dry dock.
Wasn't the USS Washington a North Carolina class BB.
Yes
Ranking military technology like this is one thing I dislike, without proper indication of what you are ranking. Navies have different needs. Italy could focus on speed over range unlike the French who focused on a balance of the two. Britain had to focus on getting the most ships from their tonnage far more than other navies who had far less sea to keep supremacy over and most navies respected the Washington Naval Treaty, unless you are Japan then you crank that ships tonnage to max and exploit more loopholes. Unless a ship outclasses another in every respect can one truly rank it without specifications. All warships have their place in a navy and deserve equal fascination and interest as others. Warspite, Bismarck, Texas, Victory, Illustrious, Enterprise, Washington, Belfast, Prinz Eugen, and Laffey the Benson not Summers class are just some of my favorites, not for their paper stats but service record.
Edit: also anyone wishing to learn more about individual ships, battles, or any subject naval history related I recommend Drachinifel a RUclipsr completely dedicated to naval history.
Richelieu should be on the list, otherwise excellent picks, Rodney destroyed Bismarck in first 15 minutes of their battle not often noted.
No
How come Nagato would be over South Dakota , SD had more and more modern 16” gun , faster, and had better AA since she is American.
As as other suggested, Richelieu and Roma are very capable and efficient design even though will little battle record.
Then there’s the Bismarck, powerful ship for Germany, but it was far from efficient for its displacement, most other ships up there are about more efficient and with better battle record, Schanhorst class are slightly faster, better armoured, though with less firepower come with smaller displacement and more successful raids than the Bismarcks, I think Schanhorst should be there instead.
Nagato class have 46,000 tons and Yamato class have 73,000 tons
The Bismark is translated as the worstest battleship from germany to ever float in the sea because it didn't have proper AA, actualy neither german ships have proper AA.
Well they had proper AA but they never used it effectively . The only AA gun that was bad was the 3,7 cm Flak because it had a bad fire rate
This video is inaccurate. USS Colorado had 8 16-inch guns, not 9.
Hope these ain’t in order as that would make zero sense
Have to agree with many of the comments, nagato and colarado class shouldnt be in top 10 at all, king george V class would have to be in top 5, nelson/rodney ok but it better then woukd have built 5 of them like king george V. Vanguard is the improved king george V and has to be 3rd behind yamato and lowa class cant be anything but number 1 as equal firepower in real terms to yamato but much more accurate and successful. Bismark and Tirpitz hard to rate as they hardly saw action, bismark with an incredibly lucky shot on Hood.
Warspite and Bismarck is my fav battleship
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The Colorado had 8 guns 16 inches u are right on that tho
People . . . they are all great ships. Why turn this into a bickering contest? Numbers don't make the ship, the crews do.
@John Higgins A bickering comment trying to bitch about something he doesn't understand or is able to convey.
@John Higgins My 1st. statement was true . . . they are all great ships, I'm sure even you will agree to that. It was simply MY view, something I feel strongly about . . . anything wrong with that ? The 2nd part was too give praise to ALL members of these ships . . . which I also thought deserved to be mentioned, and was true in an offbeat way. I was trying to point out the human element in war and how it can and does effect the outcome. Don't think for a minute I'm unaware of the numbers that each ship possesses, I can read the data as well as anyone. But I try to look deeper and notice other factors that contribute to a great ship.
Now, why did you bring your dog into this ? What are you specifically objecting to ?
I watched the video again and am even more certain I'm not off-base. 75 years ago battleships were at the top of the food chain. And as such, all were designed as best as possible. They were marvelous in what they accomplished, in every aspect. In some cases just their appearance would prevent conflicts. BISMARCK offered beer to it's crew. IOWA's possess a full chemical lab. The OREGON steamed around the ''horn'' on coal . . . unescorted. They are all great ships. We've got nine which can be visited, do one at least. Get out of Warcraft thinking.
Was south dakota a ship that was in the occurance of the pearl habour attack
Anas Mahmud no, South Dakota was the lead ship of four that were commissioned after Pearl Harbor. Two still survive as museum ships, Alabama and Massachusetts.
No. The South Dakota was still fitting out.
Pearl Harbor Battleships;
Nevada
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
Arizona
Tennessee
California
Maryland
West Virginia
Also, the demilitarized Utah.
I'm curious, I never saw a list of the US battleships in active service during the outbreak of WWII - how many battleships were in the Atlantic Fleet?
Marcello Zapelini ;
On December 7, 1941, U.S. Battleships in the Atlantic were...
Arkansas
New York
Texas
New Mexico
Mississippi
Idaho
North Carolina
Washington (running sea trials)
The South Dakota's were still under construction...
South Dakota was completed in January' 42
Indiana & Massachusetts were completed that May. (About a week apart.)
Alabama in August '42.
Cheers! ☺
Also, the Colorado was in the Pacific Fleet. She wasn't at Pearl Harbor. On December 7, she was in San Deigo.
That's all of them.
Thanks a lot! I thought South Dakota was completed later, in 1943, courtesy of a wrong date set in a Brazilian book...
USS, Missouri ??
USS Missouri is an Iowa Class BB so it's included on the list.
The USS Wisconsin BB64 was a Bad wicked beast ask the Iraq armor units
Bismarck Klasse.
The last Bismarck picture is not Bismarck!
It's unique a german Battlecruiser!
Like Hipper or Hindenburg...
definately looks like Bismarck to me
The Nelson's don't belong, she along with the Richelieu's were very poor compromises. And the Yamato's were "paper tigers" with neither the crew training or experience to survive an engagement with the Iowa's.
The only real compromise was speed. She was better armored than Bismarck, had bigger guns and better radar. It only took one salvo from Rodney to finish Bismarck as an effective fighting unit. Put Bruno out of action and destroyed the central fire control systems. Bismarck did not score a hit.
the bismark had 8 15in guns wile the nelson had 9 16in guns.
Joe Molvar The number of guns on your ship counts less than the number of hits on the enemy ship.
Joe Molvar keep quoting Nelson,in my humble opinion most famous British battleship was HMS Rodney,involved in numerous operations,including the battle with Bismarck,also helped to get the Ohio in to Valletta harbour ,instrumental with her 16” guns in destroying the German armour on D day,shame they never kept her at the end of the war,her only failing was her slow speed,but a brilliant ship.
Most famous British battleship has to be the Warspite. She saw more action than any other ship in modern Royal Navy history, holds the record for the longest range first time hit on a moving enemy (probably) and scuppered herself on the way to the breakers yard.
@@garryburton36 nah, the Dreadnought is way more famous
The order of appearance needs to be modified. The South Dakota Class was better than the North Carolina Class. Both the South Dakota Class and the North Carolina were better that the Nelson Class.
Colorado have 8 16inch instead of 9
This seems to be about gun size and how cool they looked, Warspite was a more successful ship than most of these and was built for ww1.
More successful than all of them lol.
She was also in the Queen Elisabeth class so is included.
Sometimes success comes down to a heavy dose of good luck.
on the Iowa class you also showed the USS Missouri
Joey Knight the Iowa class was four ships; Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin. They are all identical; additionally, two others were never completed, the Kentucky and Illinois.
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Why did you coose theese pictures of the Bismarck? There are much better pictures! Do you hate germany?
Got to be honest with you. The Iowa class Battleship with defeat a Yamato class any day of the week !
where's Gangut?
Pour moi le Bismarck reste le plus beau cuirassé du monde 🤙
Bismarck is the best
The USS Washington was a USS North Carolina class...NOT a South Dakota class...get it right dude.
italian ship?
This is very poorly researched, King George V class was 42,751 tons standard & 46,088 tons full load, Queen Elizabeth class was 33,110 tons standard & 33,790 tons full load, Bismarck class was 41,700 tons standard & 52,600 tons full load and so on. I couldn’t watch anymore, mistake after mistake it’s utter nonsense!!
They were not that good. The guns they carried were low powered.
There armor wasn't that good.
Yamato at the top as it should be.
Yamato class never sunk another ship or even performed in a successful operation, but this list has them at #1 above the Iowa class. The list is more like most hyped battleships.
Nope all 3 Yamato class ships had sunk
The 2 other Yamato class ships where cancelled
The only 3 where built
My favorite is Battleship No. 5
clearly little knowledge of Battleships.
Washington is a North Carolina class ship, not South Dakota
excuse me but Battleship Texas is missing from your list
South Catalonia??!??!?!?
No.1 Bismarck ！！
0 AAA
Joe, you know nothing !
Littorio's guns outranged and out penetrated both Iowa's and Yamato's guns (Yamato pen better @ < 26k)
Littorio's Terni cemented armor was best of WWII.
Such that Littorio's 13.8 inch turret faces were equal to 32 inches of Iowa's Class B (aka homogenous armor) turret faces, surprising eh !
Littorio's decapping armor belt was only rivaled by Yamato's.
Look it up !
See navweps, Okun etc..
But if you look at combinedfleet you will only get dumber and more ridiculous.
+311nonono not true, Vittorio Veneto class had exceptionally powerful guns but penetration still did not match that of the Yamato or Iowa classes. The range is only couple hundred meters farther than yamato's guns but loses A LOT of penetration due to lower mass of the 15" shells. It's armor quality is not that much superior, i have read the sources you listed. Navweaps, Okun and Combinedfleet I have read.
Hey I even Agree. The Only ship That could walk away from any of these fights was the Bismarck cause when you see what German are capable of you would be scared of how accurate there precision they have. They sunk about 10 ships with one shot each(two for the HMS Hood. So the Yamato would die before they know what hit them. And also to add the bismarck was the fastest Battleship ever to sail the sea. But the Yamato could shoot the exact distance as the bismarck which could also be used as artillery which is more than 30 Miles. ;)
Dustin Kelley Bismarck armor is not capable of stopping Yamato's guns at any range.
German radar was also incapable of beyond the horizon. So Both Yamato and Bismarck would prefer to close the distance. Bismarck gun. Bismarck would need to be *shorter* than 18km to even able to penetrate Yamato's belt armor.
Both nation have showed good firing accuracy, and poor ones too. But that is up to the crew which i will generally ignore since human factors are hard to quantify.
In a technical standpoint, both ships can hit each other accurately at 24km without need of spotter planes.
While Bismarck can potentially strike more vulnerable areas, it will also means it does not hit anything vital to Yamato. For Bismarck to win, it will need to hit the FCS of the Yamato.
The odds of that is not very high.
However Yamato can hit ANYWHERE and still deal significant damage, so the chances of Yamato being able to land a fatal hit first is much higher than that of Bismarck.
Under this logic, Yamato will win majority of the time.
Also the Iowa class is the fastest BB to ever set sail at 33 knots. Bismarck is 30 knots.
Hey //i am 25 and this is what I study and the Yamato couldn't hit bismarck for there own lives.
the // was weird
Pick a South Dakota and it will smash a Nagato.
HMS Dreadnought!?
1: Roma
2: Yamato
3: USS New Jersey
4: HMS Warspite
5: USS Washington
6: USS Massachusetts
7: Giulio Cesare
8: HMS Rodney
9: Bismark
10: Vittorio Veneto
the only good thing with the yomato was power speed was bad, and the fact that all three of its class sunk in about 5 years makes it bad
The only reason why the Musashi and the Yamato didn't do well was because they were up against a much more productive foe (US). I'd bet on the Yamato to go against any German battleship and win, I'd also bet on the Yamato to go against any British battleship and win.
they were to big so they were a big target to go after. and they were super slow with reloading. and they were not good against fighter planes . it would be good for ww1 but not ww2.
That's battleships in general. Battleships were not a key choice in WW2 as aircraft made them obsolete. The Yamato was still a powerful battleship even though it was taken out by aircraft.
its to powerful that its useless because your enemy would have a big priority to sink it.if you have a big battleship at a base they are going to attack that base and the battleship. you don't want really powerful battleships you want ones that wont be a big threat but still get a job done you don't need 18 inch guns when 14 inch guns will get the job done.
I know the Yomato was powerful and big it would have been amazing in the first world war but in ww2 you needed aircraft carriers.
Very subjective choice. At least two of these ten are rated as among the world's WORST warships in Antony Preston's book. There is more than one criterion for assessing how good a warship is.
Really .All these late date battleships were obsolete after it was shown that planes could sink them.I think that was done after Ww1. As matters of national pride they continued to be built. Airpower from a carrier was the future. Neither the Bismark,the Tirpitz or Yamato did anything significant. They were vastly overrated as threats.
Big carriers maybe passe except in certain shuttle uses.
After WW1 aircraft were still in development for practical use. Of course navies were already converting and experimenting with aircraft carriers, take HMS Eagle, but the doctrine for navel engagements remained. The traditional line of battle had remained from the beginning of the age of sail and the aircraft carrier battles only dominated the Pacific theatre. In the Atlantic and Mediterranean they were used for strikes and on maintaining air superiority, take Illustrious in the British Mediterranean fleet. This due to the lack of any opposing aircraft carriers and aircraft were more than capable of launching airstrikes on opponents in traditional battle and for Germany if one of their surface raiders engaged even a cruiser let alone a proper British fleet they would be put out of operation for repair. The combat you explain was untested and not expected for all navies. But of course as you said BBs were built for combat but as well as a status symbol for a nation.
Aircraft Carriers are made obsolete by guided missiles.
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Everybody says Yamato is the best when actually it's really not
You can't really expect us to change our opinion if you don't present any evidence to your claims.
Bacon Tuxedo facts
Took Bismarck 6 salvos to sink Hood (that would be up to 48 shots). Bismark then fired 5 salvos at Prince of Wales hitting her 4 times (out of 40 shots) without affecting her sea worthiness, speed, or knocking out any guns.
In Bismarck's final battle Rodney did most of the significant damage, responsible for knocking out most of Bismarck's guns. This is usually attributed to Bismarck steering gear being damaged, but Bismarck's guns were not disabled, it was still steaming and it was not traveling in a straight line or constant arc - it was not a sitting duck. Bismark failed to score a single hit in its last battles against many destroyers, several cruisers and 2 battleships. It had plenty of targets.
hawre rocky sorry, i know tirpitz was bismark's sister
No it was not the fastest, The Iowa Class was the fastest. Also the Iowa's would out shoot any other battleship.