The militaristic inner monologue is more of a Batwoman thing tbh. It makes sense for her because she *was* a soldier, so she talks like one. But none of Bruce's training was army or army adjacent enough to justify him using such militaristic terms
My own weird funky opinion about Y1 Bats’s dialogue is that he’s literally FRESHLY returned from training. It takes awhile to work his brain out of that lens.
@40:00 I agree and I can post an obvious example of this. Jason Todd. Kid was stealing. If criminals were the enemy, he'd just have Jason sent to Juvie. But he had hope that Jason could be 'fixed'. That he wouldn't need to be that way. I love the times when Batman shows sympathy to the villains. The Mr. Freeze storyline in the Arkham Games, the Batman and Joker scene in One Bad Day, and why he's attracted to Selina and Talia. He wants them to be better and he can see glimmers of that. They let him down, but he never stops trying.
I love how Batman year one is part of two different storylines which have a vastly different take on where batman ends up (and on the origin of Robin). Like, it's part of the Long Halloween/Dark Victory plotlines, but it's also part of the millerverse which has ASBAR and Dark Knights Master Race
If I had a nickle for every time a Batman story jumped perspectives between Batman and Gordon and used its storyline to comment on Gotham city and humanity as a whole thereby becoming instant classics, I'd have two nickles. Which is not a lot, but it's cool that it happened twice.
The Batman took more from Batman Earth One, with Martha Wayne being an Arkham and more serial killerish take on the Riddler. I like to think of this as a prelude to Long Halloween. This is Batman establishing himself, Long Halloween is the underworld responding to Batman by replacing the traditional mob with supervillains.
I like the idea that at first Batman was militaristic molding himself after commandos. But later on coming into his own identity as Batman. But as he got into his old age he went back to it since its a mindset that keeps his mind steady.
If i had a nickle for every time frank miller felt the need to add really uncomfortable sexual overtones to a superhero story that would have been better without them... i'd probably have enough nickles to buy a first edition copy of this comic, lmao
This was the first Batman comic I bought and to be honest I had forgotten all about Bruce's part of the story line because Gordon takes the spotlight. Which is not a bad thing, but it is kind of funny. The art is so so good, I sometimes flick through it without really reading just to look at it again
I love the summaries/retelling you do in these videos. Your voice has the perfect dramaticness to it and the tone is great and the editing is just so well done. I couldn’t help thinking during this that I would love to listen to an audiobook narrated by you.
My only complaint with this story is the fact that Gordon cheats. In my opinion that isn’t the problem with Jim and Barbara’s marriage. The issue is the he can’t leave work at work and the transfer thing.
I have been HYPED for this one. I shall edit with comments on your observations upon my completion of the video. :) EDIT: (Keep in mind that all these thoughts come from a devout practitioner of "canon-blending", especially as it relates to DC Comics) - This comic feels more an origin story for the Batman-Gordon partnership than anything else, which doesn't really seem to get fleshed out in most media that I've seen. Not to say that they aren't shown to be allies/partners/friends (BTAS/TNBA "New Year's tradition"); it simply feels like Gordon just tends to show up to give Batman info on the case and then doesn't appear again until the arrest of the criminal. It's nice to see the events that show exactly how arguably the best cop Gotham's ever had comes to form this close bond with arguably Gotham's greatest masked protector. - I've always tended to give the exact same leeway about how militant Batman acts here as Panda does; Bruce starts this way and then gains his more hopeful/empathetic views over time. We have to consider that being on that plane is the first time Bruce has been in Gotham in over a decade, and he spent that time in-between training for the sole purpose of making the crime in this city cower before him. Not only that, but one has to consider some of those people Bruce was training with to understand that Bruce has been going through some brutal lessons, so having a hardened shell is understandable. As Panda also pointed out, there aren't any "super criminals" aside from Selina popping in throughout the story and then the only-mentioned Joker at the very end. Batman has yet to encounter the villains who are only villains because they have improperly-treated mental conditions. Heck, this comic is pre-Two-Face, meaning Bruce has yet to watch as one of his closest friends goes from a shining beacon of hope to a ruthless semi-unpredictable monster! Not to mention that this is a Batman/Bruce who has yet to meet his various children and friends; there is no BatFamily other than Alfred at this point. So, Bruce has little-to-no frame of reference for compassion for "the enemy" yet. But that's okay; he needs to get his bearings in the basics before he can move on to the more advanced course. - Gordon does indeed have weak moments- human moments, and I adore this comic for that. The fact that he starts an affair with Sarah while Barbara is pregnant is, as sad as it, a very common event that can occur in high-stress jobs such as police work. You also have to add the stressors of moving to an entirely different state, Gordon knowing he's the reason Barbara & him had to uproot their lives even if it was for a noble reason, seeing & seething about all the corruption in Gotham, and this whole Batman situation. People can only take so much before they do something impulsive like that kiss in the rain. So, frankly, I don't begrudge Gordon's actions here. Honestly, I think he handles it with more maturity than most; he confesses to Barbara, Sarah & him create separation to keep things from going further, and the Gordons are seeing a marriage counselor to work all the issues out in a proper environment. All this goes without even mentioning how Gordon talks about James Jr., both pre- and post-birth; this is a man who loves deeply, especially when it comes to his kid. -I've had this book for a number of years and I cannot express how much I adore the artwork and character designs. Literally, that would be a rant on its own and I've clogged up this comment enough. I will simply leave it at these colors are truly something else and I agree that this is one of the best Batman costumes created. I especially love the context that this is Batman's first ever suit, so of course there are going to be flaws and mishaps; that's what makes it feel real. Thank you for coming to my rant; have a good night! - BONUS: I personally like to think of this comic happening in the same universe as Long Halloween/Dark Victory/Haunted Knight, so some of these character interactions are a lot more humerous/tragic to me than they already are, so that's nice
Had a dream the other night where you joined nebula. No real point here other than man I really do wish I could listen to this with another app open I guess?
This video was the excuse that made me finally read this book. Overall I enjoyed it. I too like the idea that Batman brings the weirdness. I like that Gordan isnt a perfect character because everyone is flawed. I'm a big fan of Bruce messing up like with the kids, we rarely see that. I haven't read the other Frank Miller books, but I enjoyed this one at least.
I don't know why my attention span locks onto CBBC better than any animated comic book movie (or lets face it even the live actions these days) but fuck, i love these videos
Oh wow, next one is my first ever marvel comic that wasn't a crossover. Yes, as someone still sorting out which characters were marvel and which were dc, my library's selection was both very weird and VERY mean.
'Batman: year one' is actually one of the first comics I've read. I was on amazon and saw the set of three comics that were the inspiration for 'The batman' movie. It was Batman the long Halloween, Batman ego and then batman year one. Batman's always been my favourite superhero so I'm happy I got a good introduction into batman comics and comics as a whole through this book.
Also, wanted to make a second comment cuz the first was getting a bit long. I love these videos panda, I can definitely tell you put alot of effort into them. You deserve all the love for these videos, keep up the good work 👍
You know how Damian has a shard of kryptonite in his sword if I were in the bat family on April fools I would replace the kryptonite with PINK kryptonite and see how long it takes him to notice
So, I had a thought. I know, shocking. If you look at a picture of The Batman Who Laughs, or “ The Marsupial Boy That Does The Chuckling”, most of the time, you can see his nose. This leads me to believe that the very front spike of his pointy, headband, thing, is where his nose is.
To me the Gordon affair fits as it shows that good men can be corrupted by the city. Gordon starts off as a good man but the city beats him down. And because he spends all his time at work fighting the city, Sarah becomes that relief more than his wife. And he's aware of it. But when it becomes more and more of a problem, to the point where he is blackmailed over that information, he's confronted with how easy the corruption works. And Sarah realizes it too. Its why she was so open to the transfer. But while Sarah leaves the bad situation before it gets worse, Gordon stays and decides to tough it out and keep fighting. because that's the only way to make a bad situation good. Catwoman being a prostitute was...just a bad Frank Miller trope. Honestly it would have worked just as well if she was a drug dealer or something.
Wouldn't Batman actually be more militant in the beginning before adapting and evolving as he gained experience? Starting off with no plan and an idea backed by hardcore ideologies would lend itself to structuring oneself after the most available sort of violent change-making institutions available to the public: their idea of what militaries and paramilitaries are like.
psst: NOT 'rebooted continuity for the first time", not by a long shot - Earth-2 vs Earth-1, for example, or Earth-X, and the kickoff wasn't Crisis on Infinite Earths, but much earlier, the classis "Flash of Two Worlds". --Dave, that's right - Barry Allen initially broke the DC Universe, which has been suffering aftershocks at ever-reduced intervals ever since ps: i think you meant "Miller-tary-minded"
I do totally get what people like about early frank miller comics, but I just hate his writing so much. It probably is influenced by the fact that I tried reading his stuff after he'd gone full 'holy terror', and I can't help constantly looking for the early signs of those reactionary far-right politics in everything he writes, which definitely isn't a good mindset to approach a story you're trying to enjoy. But even without that, the way he writes gotham city would not work for me, and i'm far more invested in gotham as a setting than i am any of the characters who live there, which really doesn't help. He leans so hard into the 'gotham is grim and gritty and scary' stuff that it feels completely unbelievable, but (in year one especially) it never loops around far enough to hit the mcfarlen or leifeld 'so grim it's fun' point, and the result just grates on me. Also, I'm sorry, but there is not way to hit a consistent grim and gritty tone when you also have to explain why a 20 year old university drop out is dressing up as a bat. if batman's already established, you can just gloss over it, but the moment of decision is never not goofy, and you really can't be gritty and goofy at the same time.
The art is so good but like... god I hate Frank Miller's Batman. I just hate it. That said, this is an excellent case for how a colorist can totally change the vibe of a piece. The colors in contrast to all the blacks in the inking is just stunning. It's just too bad it's written by Miller. (Yes, yes, I know he's technically talented. I just really don't like his grimdark style. It's not for me.)
To quote linkara: Batman is not a soldier, he’s a knight
Which video is this from?
@@owenmatthewsacuna3813I think that’s from either his All Star Batman and Robin videos or The Dark Knight Returns video
He's got soul, but he's not a soldier
@@owenmatthewsacuna3813 dark knight returns part 1
The militaristic inner monologue is more of a Batwoman thing tbh. It makes sense for her because she *was* a soldier, so she talks like one. But none of Bruce's training was army or army adjacent enough to justify him using such militaristic terms
I got _chills_ from your take on the "None of you are safe" speech. Amazing work.
My own weird funky opinion about Y1 Bats’s dialogue is that he’s literally FRESHLY returned from training. It takes awhile to work his brain out of that lens.
Honestly the best casting from one dc project to another is Jensen Ackles voicing Red Hood and then Batman
@40:00 I agree and I can post an obvious example of this. Jason Todd. Kid was stealing. If criminals were the enemy, he'd just have Jason sent to Juvie. But he had hope that Jason could be 'fixed'. That he wouldn't need to be that way. I love the times when Batman shows sympathy to the villains. The Mr. Freeze storyline in the Arkham Games, the Batman and Joker scene in One Bad Day, and why he's attracted to Selina and Talia. He wants them to be better and he can see glimmers of that. They let him down, but he never stops trying.
I love how Batman year one is part of two different storylines which have a vastly different take on where batman ends up (and on the origin of Robin).
Like, it's part of the Long Halloween/Dark Victory plotlines, but it's also part of the millerverse which has ASBAR and Dark Knights Master Race
If I had a nickle for every time a Batman story jumped perspectives between Batman and Gordon and used its storyline to comment on Gotham city and humanity as a whole thereby becoming instant classics, I'd have two nickles. Which is not a lot, but it's cool that it happened twice.
The Batman took more from Batman Earth One, with Martha Wayne being an Arkham and more serial killerish take on the Riddler. I like to think of this as a prelude to Long Halloween. This is Batman establishing himself, Long Halloween is the underworld responding to Batman by replacing the traditional mob with supervillains.
I like the idea that at first Batman was militaristic molding himself after commandos. But later on coming into his own identity as Batman. But as he got into his old age he went back to it since its a mindset that keeps his mind steady.
You're not wrong, the art is absolutely stunning in this comic.
I think the soldier aspect fits Batman’s first year at least
Miller has Daredevil also strip and tie up a guy and leave him there when he rewrote his origin. Weird thing to repeat
If i had a nickle for every time frank miller felt the need to add really uncomfortable sexual overtones to a superhero story that would have been better without them... i'd probably have enough nickles to buy a first edition copy of this comic, lmao
This was the first Batman comic I bought and to be honest I had forgotten all about Bruce's part of the story line because Gordon takes the spotlight. Which is not a bad thing, but it is kind of funny. The art is so so good, I sometimes flick through it without really reading just to look at it again
I love the summaries/retelling you do in these videos. Your voice has the perfect dramaticness to it and the tone is great and the editing is just so well done. I couldn’t help thinking during this that I would love to listen to an audiobook narrated by you.
I totally get your praise of the Year One Batsuit as your favorite.
Personally my favorite is the Jim Lee suit circa Batman: Hush
My only complaint with this story is the fact that Gordon cheats. In my opinion that isn’t the problem with Jim and Barbara’s marriage. The issue is the he can’t leave work at work and the transfer thing.
You talk a lot about your interpretations on characters, personally I'd love a video or two about your personal interpretations on characters
I have been HYPED for this one. I shall edit with comments on your observations upon my completion of the video. :)
EDIT: (Keep in mind that all these thoughts come from a devout practitioner of "canon-blending", especially as it relates to DC Comics)
- This comic feels more an origin story for the Batman-Gordon partnership than anything else, which doesn't really seem to get fleshed out in most media that I've seen. Not to say that they aren't shown to be allies/partners/friends (BTAS/TNBA "New Year's tradition"); it simply feels like Gordon just tends to show up to give Batman info on the case and then doesn't appear again until the arrest of the criminal. It's nice to see the events that show exactly how arguably the best cop Gotham's ever had comes to form this close bond with arguably Gotham's greatest masked protector.
- I've always tended to give the exact same leeway about how militant Batman acts here as Panda does; Bruce starts this way and then gains his more hopeful/empathetic views over time. We have to consider that being on that plane is the first time Bruce has been in Gotham in over a decade, and he spent that time in-between training for the sole purpose of making the crime in this city cower before him. Not only that, but one has to consider some of those people Bruce was training with to understand that Bruce has been going through some brutal lessons, so having a hardened shell is understandable. As Panda also pointed out, there aren't any "super criminals" aside from Selina popping in throughout the story and then the only-mentioned Joker at the very end. Batman has yet to encounter the villains who are only villains because they have improperly-treated mental conditions. Heck, this comic is pre-Two-Face, meaning Bruce has yet to watch as one of his closest friends goes from a shining beacon of hope to a ruthless semi-unpredictable monster! Not to mention that this is a Batman/Bruce who has yet to meet his various children and friends; there is no BatFamily other than Alfred at this point. So, Bruce has little-to-no frame of reference for compassion for "the enemy" yet. But that's okay; he needs to get his bearings in the basics before he can move on to the more advanced course.
- Gordon does indeed have weak moments- human moments, and I adore this comic for that. The fact that he starts an affair with Sarah while Barbara is pregnant is, as sad as it, a very common event that can occur in high-stress jobs such as police work. You also have to add the stressors of moving to an entirely different state, Gordon knowing he's the reason Barbara & him had to uproot their lives even if it was for a noble reason, seeing & seething about all the corruption in Gotham, and this whole Batman situation. People can only take so much before they do something impulsive like that kiss in the rain. So, frankly, I don't begrudge Gordon's actions here. Honestly, I think he handles it with more maturity than most; he confesses to Barbara, Sarah & him create separation to keep things from going further, and the Gordons are seeing a marriage counselor to work all the issues out in a proper environment. All this goes without even mentioning how Gordon talks about James Jr., both pre- and post-birth; this is a man who loves deeply, especially when it comes to his kid.
-I've had this book for a number of years and I cannot express how much I adore the artwork and character designs. Literally, that would be a rant on its own and I've clogged up this comment enough. I will simply leave it at these colors are truly something else and I agree that this is one of the best Batman costumes created. I especially love the context that this is Batman's first ever suit, so of course there are going to be flaws and mishaps; that's what makes it feel real.
Thank you for coming to my rant; have a good night!
- BONUS: I personally like to think of this comic happening in the same universe as Long Halloween/Dark Victory/Haunted Knight, so some of these character interactions are a lot more humerous/tragic to me than they already are, so that's nice
this convinced me to buy it! i dont regret it the art really is absolutly gorgeous the use of shadows and lighting especially is muah
These are so enjoyable, love throwing them on while I'm making dinner
Had a dream the other night where you joined nebula. No real point here other than man I really do wish I could listen to this with another app open I guess?
God I wish 😂 I love Nebula and watch pretty much all of the creators on there. Fingers crossed for the future.
@@ThePandaRedd hell yeah dude maybe one day who knows.
Obligatory algorithm comment, and this comic was a fun read, can’t wait to hear your analysis of the book.
For some reason the (ft. Batman) in the title made me think that some guy dressed as Batman was gonna show up in this video with a rap verse
❤ thank you forever for continuing the readings 🎉❤
great job again, really admire the work you put into these. Having the comic dramatically read really scratches that audiodrama itch!
I really enjoy this show man. Thanks so much for another awesome episode 😁
One of my favorite Batman stories
This video was the excuse that made me finally read this book. Overall I enjoyed it. I too like the idea that Batman brings the weirdness. I like that Gordan isnt a perfect character because everyone is flawed. I'm a big fan of Bruce messing up like with the kids, we rarely see that. I haven't read the other Frank Miller books, but I enjoyed this one at least.
I don't know why my attention span locks onto CBBC better than any animated comic book movie (or lets face it even the live actions these days) but fuck, i love these videos
Man I love this story and I’m so glad you liked reading it too
dropped this with just enough time to finish my shift BLESS
Currently my favorite series on RUclips
You know what? Braden is a MUCH more fitting name for him!! Definitely more of an A-Hole name. (Apologies to anyone named Braden.)
Oh wow, next one is my first ever marvel comic that wasn't a crossover.
Yes, as someone still sorting out which characters were marvel and which were dc, my library's selection was both very weird and VERY mean.
I like this. Thank you
'Batman: year one' is actually one of the first comics I've read. I was on amazon and saw the set of three comics that were the inspiration for 'The batman' movie. It was Batman the long Halloween, Batman ego and then batman year one. Batman's always been my favourite superhero so I'm happy I got a good introduction into batman comics and comics as a whole through this book.
Also, wanted to make a second comment cuz the first was getting a bit long. I love these videos panda, I can definitely tell you put alot of effort into them. You deserve all the love for these videos, keep up the good work 👍
Low key this video made me want to buy the comic so bad.
Yey Gordon year one lol
You know how Damian has a shard of kryptonite in his sword if I were in the bat family on April fools I would replace the kryptonite with PINK kryptonite and see how long it takes him to notice
26:08 is it just me or does Jim look simultaneously jaundice and high as fuck
Eliza Dushku does rule though she's great in Buffy. What if you did a Buffy comic you don't own those
So, I had a thought. I know, shocking. If you look at a picture of The Batman Who Laughs, or “ The Marsupial Boy That Does The Chuckling”, most of the time, you can see his nose. This leads me to believe that the very front spike of his pointy, headband, thing, is where his nose is.
Please soon cover Spider-Man Life Story. It’s so good
Yeah i love that story 😊 but i dont know if its no the list
I don’t own that, but if someone sends it to me it’ll be added to the shelf!
@@ThePandaRedd I would let u borrow my copy until u get to reading it but idk if ur down for that lol
@@ThePandaRedd thanks for the answer
Miller eventually bought his own hype. He crawled up his own backside and never came back out.
Noooo past panda don’t read earth x!!!!
Captain Branden has the exact same way my name is spelled
Great job and God bless
To me the Gordon affair fits as it shows that good men can be corrupted by the city. Gordon starts off as a good man but the city beats him down. And because he spends all his time at work fighting the city, Sarah becomes that relief more than his wife. And he's aware of it. But when it becomes more and more of a problem, to the point where he is blackmailed over that information, he's confronted with how easy the corruption works. And Sarah realizes it too. Its why she was so open to the transfer. But while Sarah leaves the bad situation before it gets worse, Gordon stays and decides to tough it out and keep fighting. because that's the only way to make a bad situation good.
Catwoman being a prostitute was...just a bad Frank Miller trope. Honestly it would have worked just as well if she was a drug dealer or something.
you should do denny oneils the question
Wouldn't Batman actually be more militant in the beginning before adapting and evolving as he gained experience? Starting off with no plan and an idea backed by hardcore ideologies would lend itself to structuring oneself after the most available sort of violent change-making institutions available to the public: their idea of what militaries and paramilitaries are like.
HOLY SHIT I HAVE THIS
psst: NOT 'rebooted continuity for the first time", not by a long shot - Earth-2 vs Earth-1, for example, or Earth-X, and the kickoff wasn't Crisis on Infinite Earths, but much earlier, the classis "Flash of Two Worlds".
--Dave, that's right - Barry Allen initially broke the DC Universe, which has been suffering aftershocks at ever-reduced intervals ever since
ps: i think you meant "Miller-tary-minded"
Have you seen the batman cartoon?
Please do mister miracle at some point
Shit I'm 2 days late!
When dose Batman become batgod he is known as
I do totally get what people like about early frank miller comics, but I just hate his writing so much. It probably is influenced by the fact that I tried reading his stuff after he'd gone full 'holy terror', and I can't help constantly looking for the early signs of those reactionary far-right politics in everything he writes, which definitely isn't a good mindset to approach a story you're trying to enjoy. But even without that, the way he writes gotham city would not work for me, and i'm far more invested in gotham as a setting than i am any of the characters who live there, which really doesn't help. He leans so hard into the 'gotham is grim and gritty and scary' stuff that it feels completely unbelievable, but (in year one especially) it never loops around far enough to hit the mcfarlen or leifeld 'so grim it's fun' point, and the result just grates on me.
Also, I'm sorry, but there is not way to hit a consistent grim and gritty tone when you also have to explain why a 20 year old university drop out is dressing up as a bat. if batman's already established, you can just gloss over it, but the moment of decision is never not goofy, and you really can't be gritty and goofy at the same time.
The art is so good but like... god I hate Frank Miller's Batman. I just hate it. That said, this is an excellent case for how a colorist can totally change the vibe of a piece. The colors in contrast to all the blacks in the inking is just stunning. It's just too bad it's written by Miller. (Yes, yes, I know he's technically talented. I just really don't like his grimdark style. It's not for me.)