One of my favorite Yokai. He has a wonderful design and emits an eerie aura. They should have included the “otherworldly “ birds and marine life that accompany his presence. That could have added some ranged attacks.
What I really love about this is how they decided to add a yokai that's verily shrouded in mystery (like, I think there's only one or two stories surrounding Bake-Kujira that's accessible or at least known). I only knew about this yokai due to the amount of research I was doing a few years ago... and now I get to see him in a game~!
I expected him to be slightly larger but in that form is probably more balanced. I quite like his abilities especially auto attack passive but I wish sonic wave have reveal effect like camazotz's 1. Also it would be nice if ult had animation with whale jumping like on lore video and then activating aoe effect.
@@Phantom-bh5ru Tbf honestly giant sized gods like that are torture to use sometimes and just also not great either for alotta skins to be used with. Also limits what kind of abilities they can have also
@@Phantom-bh5ru The reason Jorm can be as big as he is, is because he is a snake, who can have most of his body bellow ground, and only his head sticking up so that his model doesn't actually take up that much more space than other gods. That is just not feasable with a whale. Imagine if Kujira was as tall as Jorm, and just think about how long he would have had to been, and just how much space he would take up.
That's a bunch of crap guys .. fenrir ult he grows big .. lancelot has the horse .. characters like cerberus and this dude that is a GIANT monster should be bigger 😅 damn love the kit but hate the in game model 😭
i’m going to school in order to get a degree in marine biology with the intention of hopefully studying mammalogy at some point and ever since i heard about bake kujira, it inspired me to get an entire tattoo piece on my back resembling the yokai of despair. haven’t played smite in over nearly 2 years but this announcement might very well bring me back.
His kit synergizes well with each other, but his ult needs a little work imo. Not being cc immune really hurts his team fight, but having cc immunity on a 3 second ult like that would be busted, so maybe he could use some small amount of mitigations to compensate. Also watching this video confirms that his time dilation doesn't work like olorun field and projectiles still fire at the same speed even if they are shot slower.
Atleast the 3 is inmune to some cc, and have a little of mitigations in passive and the first ability, like they choose more Anti cc in differents parts of the kit and a little in ult, is a little weak but is still fun and usable
Sacrificing a great amount of CC immunity in order to reduce enemies damage and increase the damage they receive is what Terra also does and how often does Terra fit in meta? Or how often do people even play Terra accordingly? While Terra has the CC/Healing, big whale has the constant damage reduction. Terra gets knock-up immune, whale gets knock back immune, while terra has to waste an entire mana pool for aoe damage, whale does it while sleeping. It's a playstyle that compared to other guardians, this one is the 2nd (imho) that can easily trigger adcs when not played correctly (Jorm support triggers just being in lane)
@@Pigayyy It kind of is in the context of this ultimate where the passive of the god allows your to stick to your target indefinitely and you're getting increased damage at the epicenter or you can run around and position the time dilation even though the time dilation is on the weaker side from what we've seen with time stuff in the game. I think mitigations would make the ult feel better while still allowing for some counter play.
I hope so. I would love to see Yokai like Jorogumo, Umibozu, Itsumade, Gyuki, Tanuki, Yuki-Onna, Oni, Baku, Enenra, Akaname, Kappa, Basan, Akashita, Sogenbi, Ubagabi, Wanyudo, Nue, Haku-Taku, Yama Orabi, Kodama, Nuppeppo, Bakotsu, Betobeto-san, Omukade, Kamaitachi, Kirin, Kogarasu, Kijo, Yamawani, Kechibi, Yamajijii, Mamo, Yado Mori, Inugami, Nogitsune/Yako and Gashadokuro in the game!
I mean, league's next champion is a complete non-human (dragon adc), and one of the 4 champions released last year was also a complete non-human (Naafiri).
I hope this means we'll have even more legends that aren't human-shaped. Doesn't necessarily have to be from Japan. Hell, I'd love to see something more from Lovecraft works.
Gojira: Flying Whales Waters of chaos have invaded all space The flood on Earth again, I have to find the whales That once did guide us to dry lands of life I won't despair, I'll break this dark around Under heavy sea I'll search the flight of whales Beneath the seas, I searched and had a different view Of us on Earth, the sinking ship of men But it's beyond the stars, I found the place where They were, and they finally came to light Over the winds They dwell in light Like the arrow in the sky I found myself on higher grounds from up here For I see them all the ways in flight Now I can see the whales Looming out of the dark Like arrows in the sky I can't believe my eyes But it's true Huge tunnel ends in light Like banks of clouds, they gather See massive shape of flesh Swimming giants in the clear The mightiest comes to me I'm on the wing, wide open They teach me how to fly Slowly moving in the air So much told with no words at all Powerful presence for only speech Breath Over the winds They dwell in light Fly
Animations could definitely be better here like i wish he had some fog beneath him instead of him just straight up flying and some of the sounds could be better also
He should breach like whales do when he ults. Theres not enough dynamic movement in his animations to convey the gravitas his art/design and actual whales have lol. Otherwise really happy with this god. Please keep adding monsters and original designs!
"This whale is cursed!" That's bad. "But it's got strong AoE!" That's good! "But it can't increase its attack speed!" That's bad. "But it causes enemies to do less damage!" That's good! "But it lacks any sort of range or sustain!" Can I go home now?
I always find it really funny when there's an absolutely gargantuan god introduced like Cthulhu or Tiamat and then in the actual game they're like the size of a horse. Like not small surely but certainly not big. (speaking of it would be really cool to see more gods in the great old one pantheon, namely Nyarlathotep or Hastur.)
Well in game the gods are massive compared to the minions which are mortals. So they aren’t horse sized for the most part and ya it would be cool if they would add some more of lovecraft gods but they already said they aren’t because lovecraft was a well know racist
Embarking on a supernatural journey with Bake Kujira, the Ghost-Whale in Smite! 🐋✨ Excited for the God reveal and all the mystical adventures it promises.
I've seen a good few people complain about his abilities being boring. He's literally a whale, what did you expect him to do? Anyway I think it's a nice change of pace to have a more simplistic god, we've have so many flashy ones already.
Whales can easily kill people, but they don't do it by spasming around and twirling. The bio-sonar of sperm whales is powerful enough to rupture human organs from a distance. They can fit multiple humans in their mouths, and breach over many more... I guess they made his abilities lore-accurate, but not accurate to what he is-- a whale. They usually don't miss that, which only makes it more noticeable. It almost feels like the abilities were cycled from another kit. What even are his basics? Is he just splashing around? I genuinely don't understand what he's doing. There's not much skill expression in multiple aura abilities, also having all of his dmg and utility spread out over such a large distance means that his final balance state probably won't be very good.
Id love to see more yokai for japanese gods in smite 2 yokai like Yama-Uba (a japanese ice witch), a tengu- like god (tengu are forest demons) and a Kama-Itachi yokai (a weasel spirit that is said to be the explaination for wind burns)
Wtf I never knew about this thing before this comment. As a die hard Godzilla fan, I should have known about this thing! Gojira has to be partly inspired by it, right?!
Looks great and all but.. Why would you add a line to the trailer that said its described as a 'skeletal whale' and then make a design thats barely skeletal at all.
Missed opportunity to make his 3rd ability a breach where he dives underground, picks a spot to breach and knocks up enemies. Really hone in on the fact he's just a whale 🥲
Will Smite bring characters from the Silmarillion, The Hobbit, to The Lord of the Rings? I hope Eru Iluvatar, Manwe, Varda, Aule, Yavana, and Melkor can be characters in this game.
The ultimate god pass is still on sale for $30 and the other options are also on sale... There's a "10 year pass" If you decide to do it now, because this sale only available until December 20th
@@mercifulservant9619 I mean I would say you're right. However I'm a returning smite player and they changed so much on the map, I played jungle and legit got flamed by 4 players because I did the wrong start... What just turned into my team trolling me and let me die and spamming in comms, like give me pointers but even that's too much to ask
@soapy4821 this is nature of moba people love to bully noobs and those who dnt know if u get back to league right now and u play sup smite and ghost you will be flamed by 9 :) and league is sometimes less toxic due to so many player got chat penalty or afraid to get one and i talk about league community as whole is so toxic any where any time
We need more "nonhuman" characters like this. I still hope for Aten The Solar Disk someday but this is awesome too.
Aten: arrives
Literally every other member of the Egyptian Pantheon: KILL IT KILL IT KILL THE USURPER!
Akhenaten would like to know your location
na bro, they r gods not human
@@Lunaryx Akhenaten go get eaten by Ammit.
@@adamsyarifhidayatullah5826 Gods who take on humanoid avatars
This is my type of character. He looks simple and effective with just being in the enemies way and being disruptive.
Yeah against those cowards with hard cc in arena or brawl
One of my favorite Yokai. He has a wonderful design and emits an eerie aura. They should have included the “otherworldly “ birds and marine life that accompany his presence. That could have added some ranged attacks.
What I really love about this is how they decided to add a yokai that's verily shrouded in mystery (like, I think there's only one or two stories surrounding Bake-Kujira that's accessible or at least known). I only knew about this yokai due to the amount of research I was doing a few years ago... and now I get to see him in a game~!
Hirez tends to release the popular gods when they need audience and keep adding the less known ones when they have enough audience.
@@Haaton-of-the-Basement which is great imo!!!
Bake Kujira and Kujira are both in onmyoji!
@@Sweetwolfyn Oh, yeah. I forgot all about them lol. But to be fair, I stopped playing Onmyoji Arena a long time ago...
@@Sweetwolfyn We need the mirror yokai in Smite
I expected him to be slightly larger but in that form is probably more balanced. I quite like his abilities especially auto attack passive but I wish sonic wave have reveal effect like camazotz's 1. Also it would be nice if ult had animation with whale jumping like on lore video and then activating aoe effect.
I’m so disappointed at his size bruh. I wanted jorm sized instead we got a cerb sized disappointment
@@Phantom-bh5ru Imagine his aoe basic attack with jorm size.
@@Phantom-bh5ru Tbf honestly giant sized gods like that are torture to use sometimes and just also not great either for alotta skins to be used with. Also limits what kind of abilities they can have also
@@Phantom-bh5ru The reason Jorm can be as big as he is, is because he is a snake, who can have most of his body bellow ground, and only his head sticking up so that his model doesn't actually take up that much more space than other gods. That is just not feasable with a whale.
Imagine if Kujira was as tall as Jorm, and just think about how long he would have had to been, and just how much space he would take up.
That's a bunch of crap guys .. fenrir ult he grows big .. lancelot has the horse .. characters like cerberus and this dude that is a GIANT monster should be bigger 😅 damn love the kit but hate the in game model 😭
I haven’t heard played this game in 5 years. This god makes me want to play.
Just got back into smite and he's already my favorite 😂 his voice lines are the best.
heLLOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOO
i’m going to school in order to get a degree in marine biology with the intention of hopefully studying mammalogy at some point and ever since i heard about bake kujira, it inspired me to get an entire tattoo piece on my back resembling the yokai of despair. haven’t played smite in over nearly 2 years but this announcement might very well bring me back.
Please come back. This young bloods are terrible
Great design, wish his abilities weren’t so boring 😭
Well good because i mostly play support people hate that role lmao
Well, he's both a guardian and a whale. Can't expect his abilities to be all flashy.
I expected his Ult to Massively launch himself into the air and Summons a Tidal Wave and him becoming bigger like Cthulhu that dives into a large AOE.
heh heh, whale go splash
What you expected? "His 1st ability is doing this and this when this then that on tuesday and sunday +kickflip" ?
His kit synergizes well with each other, but his ult needs a little work imo. Not being cc immune really hurts his team fight, but having cc immunity on a 3 second ult like that would be busted, so maybe he could use some small amount of mitigations to compensate. Also watching this video confirms that his time dilation doesn't work like olorun field and projectiles still fire at the same speed even if they are shot slower.
Maybe have 1-sec cc immunity during the start of his ult during a casting animation? But maybe it would be too similar too Charon idk
its not really busted considering guan yu has a sort of long ult and he stays cc immune
Atleast the 3 is inmune to some cc, and have a little of mitigations in passive and the first ability, like they choose more Anti cc in differents parts of the kit and a little in ult, is a little weak but is still fun and usable
Sacrificing a great amount of CC immunity in order to reduce enemies damage and increase the damage they receive is what Terra also does and how often does Terra fit in meta? Or how often do people even play Terra accordingly? While Terra has the CC/Healing, big whale has the constant damage reduction. Terra gets knock-up immune, whale gets knock back immune, while terra has to waste an entire mana pool for aoe damage, whale does it while sleeping.
It's a playstyle that compared to other guardians, this one is the 2nd (imho) that can easily trigger adcs when not played correctly (Jorm support triggers just being in lane)
@@Pigayyy It kind of is in the context of this ultimate where the passive of the god allows your to stick to your target indefinitely and you're getting increased damage at the epicenter or you can run around and position the time dilation even though the time dilation is on the weaker side from what we've seen with time stuff in the game. I think mitigations would make the ult feel better while still allowing for some counter play.
I’m excited to see the type of skins this guy could have. Eldritch monsters and a mosasaur skin would be awesome.
Give me a megalodon!
Damn Smite adding Special Grade Curses to the God pool now.
Dagon who? This the real ocean spirit
I hope this means more Yokai will be added
I hope so. I would love to see Yokai like Jorogumo, Umibozu, Itsumade, Gyuki, Tanuki, Yuki-Onna, Oni, Baku, Enenra, Akaname, Kappa, Basan, Akashita, Sogenbi, Ubagabi, Wanyudo, Nue, Haku-Taku, Yama Orabi, Kodama, Nuppeppo, Bakotsu, Betobeto-san, Omukade, Kamaitachi, Kirin, Kogarasu, Kijo, Yamawani, Kechibi, Yamajijii, Mamo, Yado Mori, Inugami, Nogitsune/Yako and Gashadokuro in the game!
I really need to start playing this again 👌
Haven’t played in like 2 years. I spent 2k hours on this game throughout college lmao
I don't play smite but since they've done all the gods everyone knows it is so cool to see the niche picks they have to choose
Allah and Jesus... Dude, it will be fire and bomb across the country as the twin skyscrapers were hit by airplane.
They only done a quarter of the gods that exist in lore there's still plenty to discover
I love how the art style of the lore reflect the gods culture
Would like to see a Mosasaurus skin for Bake-Kujira.
Also, would like to see a skin based on Moby Dick.
I imagine also a excavator Bake, like a earth themed skin that instead of waves and seas uses sand and rocks, maybe Even a Sands of time theme
how about a magical Liopleurodon?
how about Gojira/Godzilla
kyogre skin>
Very interesting kit. Love initiators that shove enemies into your team. Very nice flanker.
I’m absolutely in love with this design
Man League needs more character designs like these
I mean, league's next champion is a complete non-human (dragon adc), and one of the 4 champions released last year was also a complete non-human (Naafiri).
@@MerasFleshyes but does league have bake kujira?
Like what? Yokai themed? Cause I'd be down for that.
Its just a whale....
I feel your pain gojira..
Best lore section in a while loved the art
Looks really fun to play.
I hope this means we'll have even more legends that aren't human-shaped. Doesn't necessarily have to be from Japan. Hell, I'd love to see something more from Lovecraft works.
I love this just outa no where one of my favorite spirits ever gets added to a game i might start playing this over league....
How if this one has very little "stories" about him
@@Exel3nce i did religous and spiritual study in college.
Don't even play the game anymore but man I love the reveals
does the indicator above its icon serve any purpose? or is it there just because every other god has one?
Gojira: Flying Whales
Waters of chaos have invaded all space
The flood on Earth again, I have to find the whales
That once did guide us to dry lands of life
I won't despair, I'll break this dark around
Under heavy sea
I'll search the flight of whales
Beneath the seas, I searched and had a different view
Of us on Earth, the sinking ship of men
But it's beyond the stars, I found the place where
They were, and they finally came to light
Over the winds
They dwell in light
Like the arrow in the sky
I found myself on higher grounds from up here
For I see them all the ways in flight
Now I can see the whales
Looming out of the dark
Like arrows in the sky
I can't believe my eyes
But it's true
Huge tunnel ends in light
Like banks of clouds, they gather
See massive shape of flesh
Swimming giants in the clear
The mightiest comes to me
I'm on the wing, wide open
They teach me how to fly
Slowly moving in the air
So much told with no words at all
Powerful presence for only speech
Breath
Over the winds
They dwell in light
Fly
wailord used splash, super effective
He’s gonna be slept on 😂 y’all tripping if you think he’s gonna be boring!
People underrate how satisfying and fun simpler kits with good synergy are
@@folkelkthere are ways to make simple and fun,this aint it
@@antoniopedrocaykydonascime6213 you haven’t even played the character yet bro
He's a giant whale 🐋 how is it not cool?
I get to be a cool looking whale say no more I’m in
Nurarihyon should be your next Japanese god reveal. “Night Parade of 100 Demons” would be such a cool idea for an ultimate ability.
I like the ult. It's gonna be pretty annoying in a large fight.
nice seeing the old style of animation for trailers coming back
Playing them with olorun could get craaazzy. The ult synergy
I don’t think I heard anything about his ancient history before but it is interesting 😊
Bakekujira was one of my mains in another Moba hahahaha this made me interested.
onmyoji arena lol
Looks like another hit, can’t wait to play
“Bake Kujira imbues his body with cursed energy.”
YOU ARE MY SPECIAL
I wanna see what happens if bake and olorun ult at same time.
Literally the coolest character in the game. by far.
Every time she says “cursed energy” my brain goes “JUJUTSU KAISEN! DOMAIN EXPANSION!”
His ult is so pretty. I wish it healed too.
Man I thought we were going to get Jormungandur 2.0 and see a massive whale pop up that you can see from across the map
Looks very easy to play, i love the design and colors are biautiful big up to everyone who work on that
are you okay?
Looking forward to playing him. =)
Animations could definitely be better here like i wish he had some fog beneath him instead of him just straight up flying and some of the sounds could be better also
God dam
I’m going to come back and start playing smite again.
These new gods and designs look so cool
Idk about the ult
He should breach like whales do when he ults. Theres not enough dynamic movement in his animations to convey the gravitas his art/design and actual whales have lol. Otherwise really happy with this god. Please keep adding monsters and original designs!
"This whale is cursed!"
That's bad.
"But it's got strong AoE!"
That's good!
"But it can't increase its attack speed!"
That's bad.
"But it causes enemies to do less damage!"
That's good!
"But it lacks any sort of range or sustain!"
Can I go home now?
I don't think this god will really stick as a favorite among gaurdian players, but I do love how the audio drowns when you get hit by his ulti
All I know is that Bake reminds me of Bakemon, and Kujira sounds like Gojira combined with Hideo Kojima.
Still wanting a Godzilla crossover, even have some ideas for it, but a Whale kaiju is nice too, lol.
Cursed Energy? Domain Expansion? this truly is our jujutsu kaisen.
Oh wow another new guardian!
I always find it really funny when there's an absolutely gargantuan god introduced like Cthulhu or Tiamat and then in the actual game they're like the size of a horse. Like not small surely but certainly not big.
(speaking of it would be really cool to see more gods in the great old one pantheon, namely Nyarlathotep or Hastur.)
Hastur, please, he would definitely be a Mage for sure
@@PaladinQuinn you right
Imagine more old gods, just imagine Yogg sototh or shugg nigurath, the King in yellow could be awesome too
@@changeling6450 honestly my two wants for this next year is a new old god and Gawain for the Arthurian pantheon
Well in game the gods are massive compared to the minions which are mortals. So they aren’t horse sized for the most part and ya it would be cool if they would add some more of lovecraft gods but they already said they aren’t because lovecraft was a well know racist
is it just me or does hearing "bake kujira" 30 times drive you crazy?
Embarking on a supernatural journey with Bake Kujira, the Ghost-Whale in Smite! 🐋✨ Excited for the God reveal and all the mystical adventures it promises.
That’s great I hope next year Balor king of the Formorians becomes a playable god representing the Celtic pantheon.
I've seen a good few people complain about his abilities being boring. He's literally a whale, what did you expect him to do? Anyway I think it's a nice change of pace to have a more simplistic god, we've have so many flashy ones already.
Whales can easily kill people, but they don't do it by spasming around and twirling. The bio-sonar of sperm whales is powerful enough to rupture human organs from a distance. They can fit multiple humans in their mouths, and breach over many more... I guess they made his abilities lore-accurate, but not accurate to what he is-- a whale. They usually don't miss that, which only makes it more noticeable. It almost feels like the abilities were cycled from another kit.
What even are his basics? Is he just splashing around? I genuinely don't understand what he's doing.
There's not much skill expression in multiple aura abilities, also having all of his dmg and utility spread out over such a large distance means that his final balance state probably won't be very good.
I will say, smite absolutely dumpsters all over league when adding new charaters. What a unique looking god.
Id love to see more yokai for japanese gods in smite 2 yokai like Yama-Uba (a japanese ice witch), a tengu- like god (tengu are forest demons) and a Kama-Itachi yokai (a weasel spirit that is said to be the explaination for wind burns)
Welp time to start playing Smite.
Hello Hi-Rez , i really waiting new crossover . I want Digimons ; especially Ranamon , Renamon and Frigimon
the best part is that he's a perfect fit for the missing member of the avatar team: APPA!
Am I understanding correctly that the ult gives the opponent lag?
Hear me out now we can have an Appa skin! With a special of the avatar gang riding his back!
how long have i been away from smite for them to make a freaking Whalelfall character!
hopefully 2024 comes out with gods more often!
i dont even play this game, but this character really caught my eye
Oh GOOD, the new episode of “Bake The Grappler” is out!
love the skill set they made for him
HE INFUSES HIS BASIC ATTACK WITH WHAT!!! 1:52
Imbue not infuse
@@xBoxSuP4xHacKerMYGT same thing😒 (jjk reference)
Adept finally got her video game appearance
Out of all the possible characters…this was a surprising choice! Tho i do not complain!
Is this being added in smite 2 as well?
They should do Honengyo next. It's the yokai who is similar to Godzilla.
Wtf I never knew about this thing before this comment. As a die hard Godzilla fan, I should have known about this thing! Gojira has to be partly inspired by it, right?!
Sweet, my favorite yokai!
"Such boring abilities"
Its a ghost whale who's wikipedia article is a paragraph long, plus the combinations yiu can make....
I wish he came out before charon so he could’ve had the big wave ult would’ve been cool on a whale
Looks great and all but.. Why would you add a line to the trailer that said its described as a 'skeletal whale' and then make a design thats barely skeletal at all.
Missed opportunity to make his 3rd ability a breach where he dives underground, picks a spot to breach and knocks up enemies. Really hone in on the fact he's just a whale 🥲
Great lore narration.
This is interesting. A tank more concerned with debuffing the enemy than healing or buffing allies.
His X dosent give him haste tho? And his basic ls only reduce it by .1 seconds but in the video it's 1 seconds every basic 🤔
Oh look at those abilities! They added Magikarp!! 😆
Rowe what were you doing on guan yu
Is this related to the anime gegege no kitaro?
He looks really fun.
Will Smite bring characters from the Silmarillion, The Hobbit, to The Lord of the Rings? I hope Eru Iluvatar, Manwe, Varda, Aule, Yavana, and Melkor can be characters in this game.
He could have rush to enemies & create massive global Tsunami in all directions. What a waste opportunity. Coolest ult is wasted!
Waiting for certain kind of artists to draw him in certain kind of way.
I need to see Erzulie Dantor and Erzulie Freda
Looks like we've got a hot one for Gaijin Goombah!
NOW I CAN SEE THE WHALES, LIKE ARROWS IN THE SKY!!!
okay that does look pretty cool
I need to get back into this game. If only I could transfer my god pass and my skins to my ps5
The ultimate god pass is still on sale for $30 and the other options are also on sale... There's a "10 year pass"
If you decide to do it now, because this sale only available until December 20th
@@tsohgallik I’m aware but I am more upset about the $300 dollars worth of skins that i want transferred
He arrives on my Birthday, awesome
happy birthday Michael
Bake Kujira basic attack:
My mind: "Its super effective!"
I chose to start playing this instead of league a week ago and I gotta say great decision on my part.
I gotta ask, I play both league and smite, which community do you think is more toxic? I feel, right now, it's smite..
@@soapy4821its league imo. One dude threatened me lol
@@soapy4821 league 100%
@@mercifulservant9619 I mean I would say you're right. However I'm a returning smite player and they changed so much on the map, I played jungle and legit got flamed by 4 players because I did the wrong start... What just turned into my team trolling me and let me die and spamming in comms, like give me pointers but even that's too much to ask
@soapy4821 this is nature of moba people love to bully noobs and those who dnt know if u get back to league right now and u play sup smite and ghost you will be flamed by 9 :) and league is sometimes less toxic due to so many player got chat penalty or afraid to get one and i talk about league community as whole is so toxic any where any time
1:00 that's f@(king Sin,
now i know the inspiration of FFX boss, it never occurred to me