Tudor's T-Fit is cool but might not be all you expect
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Hey all you bracelet fit neurotics out there! Like everyone I thought Tudor's T-Fit clasp was the bee's knees for a company that doesn't seem to understand all customers want is a simple half-link. Well the clasp itself is gorgeous on my BB54, no doubt. But the range of travel of the T-Fit is less than the size of a link and guess what, I'm kinda at both ends whether I add a link or take it out. In comparison Rolex's Glide-Lock has a way longer range of travel. So you can settle right in the middle and get it tighter and looser as the day goes. It ain't gonna be like that with your Tudor for SOME wrists. You might just be like me, right at the edge where the T-Fit isn't gonna do much for you, and you'd still need a half-link to get it to work to its full capacity. Speaking of half-links, check out Steel Reef if you want that half-link for you BB58, it'll be a much better idea than wondering if you can fit the 54 clasp on your 58: the metal isn't the same colour and who in their right mind would purchase a whole bracelet or rubber strap just to get that clasp. Anyway, check out my scientific experiment, I hope it shows clearly how a couple of mm's would have made it better. It's OKAY but it's not what you might expect it to be. Hope it works you for your wrist. Mine is about 17cm.
Half links will solve the problem. Uncle Seiko offers high quality links for Tudors and other brands. Give them a month or so and you can likely find it there. I got a half link from them for a BB 36 and it worked our perfectly.
I plan to get the BB 54 on the rubber strap.
The half link quality OK or not ? Got 80 % like original tudor link.?
The Uncle Seiko half links for Tudor are Perfect in quality and looks! 😊
Yea I agree, the half link is a great product from Uncle Seiko :)
Uncle’s Seiko sabed my life with my BB58
You may want to move one link from the 6 o clock end to the 12 o clock end, thereby changing the position of the clasp on the inside of your wrist, which is what I did on one of my Tudors.
👆This. Changing links from either side to the other can help fitment as it changes where the clasp wears, and wrists are not symmetrical.
is it only me? The bracelet of any of my watches will wear loose for the first 5 minutes. After that, they're tighter !!
Same here ! Always. Worst in humid summer.
The Uncle Seiko Half Link might help you out.
I was thinking the same thing
My thoughts exactly and that should do the trick
It will DEFINITELY fix the problem. I bought the half link for my BB Pro GMT and it fixed the same issue.
For sure......
I’ll also add to the confirmation. Had a BB Pro, half link from Uncle Seiko did the trick.
100% correct on this, I've brought this up in a forum, thank you for making a video and a wider audience. They could have made the t-fit range 1.5 links but didn't... so if you're unlucky you are stuck right at end of the t-fit range. There is a half link for the P39 on Uncle Seiko to fix this issue.
Had the exact same issue on my Tudor Black Bay Pro. Tudor needs to offer a half link. Thankfully, Uncle Seiko made a half link for the Pro bracelet, and it works perfectly - now I am able to have it comfortably snug when contracted, and plenty of space to expand 1 or 2 positions as needed. I’m 100% sure he will make one for the 54 or confirm compatibility for a half link he already offers.
I did the same as you on my Pro.
Agree, 5 adjustments at 1.6mm should be enough but doesn’t seem to be. It needs an extra two positions. Still needs a half link. Uncle seiko half link and t-fit might be the answer for many.
Thankfully I can get a perfect fit with my Pelagos 39.
I know what you mean, for my bb58 I needed an uncle Seiko half link to get the right fit with a "normal" wrist, then a steel reef easylink for when my wrist is hot. Expensive but I got there. You would have hoped Tudor could figure this out with some simple maths.
Now that I've installed my Uncle Seiko half link I usually have a perfect fit at position 1 or 2. Previously without the half it was either all out or all in, equivalent to position 0 or position 3 in my experience. Thanks for your follow up video which encouraged me to upgrade mine.
Exactly same as me. Really the whole clasp isn't very useful at all even with the half-link. For the way my wrist expands, which is a lot in Hong Kong, Rolex's easy-link is perfect.
Alternative solution: Either gain around 5kg or lose a few kg. The gaining would be more fun but either option should help. 😄
I'm trying man, might add a few sets of forearm workout...
@@UptickWatchReviews No no, around where the watch sits is no muscle tissue but only the muscle attachment fibrous which do not grow at all. You can only modify your wrist circumference with losing or adding fat :)
Perfect video for me….thank you. I picked up the BB54 last week and have exactly the same problem. I too removed 4 links and am using the largest setting on the T-Fit. The watch feels fine most of the time, but when I’m hot I would really like a little bit of extra bracelet length. I was considering adding another link but you have confirmed my fears that this would result in the watch being too loose. A half link is definitely required…..or only wearing in cool weather!!
I'm kinda relieved not to be the only one but feel sorry at the same time
This is one of the most informative videos I've seen in a while. Just like many of the other gents in the comments, I had to resort to getting a half-link from Uncle Seiko for my Tudor Heritage Black Bay (version 1 ETA movement).
I find this is a problem in general with 3-link Oyster-style bracelets. Jubilee 5-link bracelets are better, because every link is the equivalent of an Oyster-style half link. Therefore, I think the new fixed-bezel Black Bays (31/36/39/41) might be OK with this exact T-fit clasp so long as they ship with the 5-link. When I get to the ADs I'm going to measure the 5-link segment length and compare that to the 3-link segment length.
I have the BB58 blue with 2 “half” links from Uncle Straps which are closer to 2/3 links. I use the middle micro adjustment. Pretty good fit so far. We’ll see when summer hits.
I have a half link from uncle seiko for my BB58. It works well, really comfortable and as it’s fitted by the clasp, you don’t notice it.
Only issue with the Uncle Seiko half links is they way overdid the faux rivets. So much more noticeable than the ones on the stock bracelet. I love the fit, but really puzzling why they made their half link so much worse than the regular bracelet.
I can’t tell the difference but I’m not really looking too closely for any differences. Also, I don’t even notice any of the rivets once the watch is on my wrist. I’d still prefer a bracelet without rivets but it’s overall a non issue. No watch is perfect but the BB58 blue is so close to it for me.
@@theenavybluemonster yeah I agree, I don’t even see the rivets, but if you compare the original with the uncle Seiko, it’s a big difference. Not a big deal, just doesn’t make any sense
This works better with the new Jubilee (picked up the Champagne 41 which I’m loving). It seems to be one jubilee link exactly, I can choose a perfect fit either on T fit fully in or T fit fully out with one less link. Fully in being better (as can expand when feels a bit tight / swell).
That's great to hear. I did try on the new Jube BB41 and that's a super nice watch that I'd have bought if I didn't have already 25 watches too many
Some people won't be satisfied short of Tudor making a bespoke bracelet just for them with 20 microadjust notches.
Micro-adjustment is supposed to allow you to fine tune between removed links when your wrist expands. With half links you could adjust to a mid-point and THEN use the micro-adjustment. Is that too much to ask from a $3.5k watch? Other manufacturers manage it for a lot less $$$. It’s called ‘thinking it through’.
See his follow up video where this issue is resolved with the Uncle Seiko half link. I had exactly the same problem and now that I've upgraded I'm overjoyed with my new watch. It's totally perfect for me now.
Rolex glidelock remains the undisputed best adjustment system in a bracelet.
Omega's adjustment clasp is fantastic as well
Well, Tudor Pelagos. Rolex looks cleaner, though. The next version of the Pelagos clasp will probably be the best.
Not being able to get a perfect fit has spoiled my enjoyment of my BB58 tbh...
Seems this STILL isn't the panacea! However, surely a half link (available aftermarket soon enough I expect) will finally solve this 100%!
I had the same. Sold it an bought a Pelagos 39…
Hopefully the T-Fit on the BB41 with 5 link won’t have this problem due to shorter length links
This is the weird stuff I love about this channel. Thanks for the video! Loving my Pelagos 39.
It’s not the T-Fit system that is the problem. It’s the fake rivets.
They stop there being enough micro adjust because it has to stop where the rivet meets the clasp.
All watches need 2.5mm of adjustment.
The Rolex has more adjustment on the clasp because it does not have the rivets stoping the bracelet going in further.
It’s the same with the non T-Fit clasp Tudor river bracelets.
Okay, very nice review. Thank you. You might need a half link. Just curious, what size is your wrist?
This is very informative. If you are an in betweener the t fit does nothing for you…. It’s just simply on the fly micro adjust. Maybe looks like the equivalent of 3 holes micro adjust in a traditional clasp?
The uncle Seiko half link was the answer for my BB58 perfect fit. Looks totally oe.
Just wanted to add.. So, for me I have the 58 in blue. I was thinking of ordering the ranger bracelet to get the T-fit myself. The color tone in the metal of the 58 black and blue are slightly different. Same with the ranger. But, honestly you cant tell in day to day wear. The biggest issue I have with the OEM BB58 bracelet, is the non articulating link on the far end of the clasp. It literally sticks out on my wrist and is horrible. So, for $850 USD yes its a bit of a spend, but to get rid of the fake rivets, and get the T-fit and to get rid of that non moving end link.. yeah I think that is a deal! (not to mention someone will give me a few hundred I am sure for a OEM BB58 bracelet in near mint condition) bringing down the swap cost a bit.
Totally agree. I can live with the BB58 clasp's limited adjustment and I even like the faux rivets, but that non-articulating totally throws the balance off.
Don’t do it. Keep your oem 58 clasp. In this hobby watches come and go. No matter how much you like one soon you might want to sell it. Buying only a steel bracelet also is a way to destroy money. Unless you’re 110% sure this is a keeper don’t do it.
Also it shouldn’t be your duty to Frankenstein the perfect watch and pay for the mistakes the company did with your precious time.
@@giorgios7785 Good advice!
@@weitsung-lin I just went to the mall, where the AD is.. and saw the 54 once again, just now. bad news.. the same non articulating link is on the T-fit clasp a well :-(
On my Ranger I couldn't find the right position. Tudor has to produce half links. Maybe the jubilee bracelet works better?
I have the same exact problem, thanks for the video!
It’s so difficult with the Hong Kong weather. The metal bracelet fit changes so much throughout a week or even a day..
Uncle Seiko half links will once again be the solution to Tudor's continued oversight not including 2 half links as they really should do.
I have this watch, and this exact problem, I bought the Uncle Seiko half link, now it’s perfect, and the adjustment gives me enough movement for when my arm swells, but I but a lot of half links, I struggle on lots of watches to get the fit I like
You need to wait for Uncle Seiko to come up with a half link for this bracelet. He has one for the BB58 already.
Your video really shows the beauty of this watch more than most I have watched. Uncle Seiko will be along son enough with a half link for £20 I am sure. I can't wait to try this watch on to see if I can be tempted to trade up from my original BB36.
You made a mistake. What you’re not taking into account is how your wrist expands with an open hand. Your wrist is smallest with a closed fist and expands when you open your hand.
I’ve only seen few watch video show this. I bet the extra link installed would be perfect fit with a open hand and slightly loose with a closed hand.
A few half links are needed if the adjustment is so small. The adjustment is needed if you get wrist expansion not to get the right fit. The Rolex easy link is 50mm and this isn't much more. The easy link also has 3 points of fit which gives another half link.
I'll take the easy-link with the half-link and anchoring points all day over this beautiful but stupid T-Fit. I've ordered the Uncle Seiko half link for the 58 and hope it'll fit in this bracelet otherwise it'll go back in the box and the watch will stay on a parachute strap
I watched 30 seconds of your video and knew a half link from Uncle Straps would be your solutions.
Funny enough I syphosize with this issue. Thank you for another great video.
I actually have the same exact problem. I removed 3 links. Was fine while at the AD, and walking outside after the purchase.
But after a couple of weeks I noticed it was too tight, was going for a quick adjust only to find out it was alrdy at the max.
Take the link from the other side, it makes a difference
T-fit works for me, but I do wish the clasp was longer to offer more adjustment, and two half-links on each side of the clasp would be great.
What a serious bummer for such a handsome watch.... 😢
It needs to fit Just right if you wear a gmt/sub etc on a bracelet and wish to LIVE with it..
I feel your pain, seriously!
I just went to the AD to see the 54 (for a second time) It is really nice. However, regarding the T-fit, I just noticed that even here the far end link on the bottom of the clasp also doesn't fully articulate like the one I have on the BB58 :-( I was hoping this would not be the case. Also, ironically because the T-fit clasp is a little longer, means that would be even more of an issue on my smaller wrist. So, sticking with the OEM on the BB58 (for me) will be best.
Just curious, do you have 4 links removed on the bb58 too?
Move it from 6 to 12 or buy a half link for the 58 from Uncle, if the color doesn’t match it is going to be mostly under the clasp anyway, no big deal.
I too own both SD4k and BB58. P39 wouldve been a little too redundant, but not BB58… well at least not to me. SD4k is not a typical office dive watch and getting the perfect fit is quite essential. It would feel very uncomfortable if you dont cuz it’s top heavy, but not with BB58. Mine is also a notch too long but I can wear it slightly loose cuz it’s very light, and Im pretty sure BB54 is even lighter. BB58 is so comfortable I sometimes forget to take it off when I go to bed.
They should make a half link option. I don’t have any issue with fitting my BB58 Bronze with the original t-fit, but might just be luck for my wrist size.
Agree , got A good fit with my ranger bracelet but not so good with my pelagos 39 😤
I bought the Ranger bracelet just for my BB58. It costs AUD1430, and the fit wasn't as great as I had hope. Oh, dont forget you will need to put Locktite in or risk dropping your watch because the links can fail without it.
So sad, i have same problem on my blackbay pro, at the end i sold my pro. I wanna buy 54 too, hope it isn’t same case on that 😥
I have an Uncle Seiko half link on my Black Bay 41mm blue bezel diver because there are only three micro adjust holes. They should make a half link for all the common Black Bay bracelets
That should make Uncle Seiko happy
Subscribed. Great vibe and great content here. Merci!
I love the way it looks but inhave the issue where i take a link it's tight and I add it it's loose I bought a 3rd party half link and it helped but everytime I move my hand a certain way it opens up so it's not very secure to stay at the size I want hopefully things get better down the road thanks for your reviews
Uncle Seiko makes a half link for the BB 58
Had the same issue with my Pelagos 39. There’s not quite enough positions with the T Fit clasp 😢
No half links? You can fit a Tudor clasp on a Forstner jubilee. That might be a way to put a t-fit on a bracelet with smaller links on the 58. The 54 might not have an similar alternative yet.
haha. so funny. never had problem with my cheaper ML Aikon 39mm. there is half links.
I guess it's a trade-off between the larger / longer clasp and the sleek looking one included in the BB54. Everyone has different preferences on fit, of course. It seemed like it still fit you a bit better with the added link and the T-fit all the way 'in' to the tightest setting. 🤷♂
Also, I believe most Omega bracelets come with half links. As you note, it's a very easy solution and rather puzzling that Tudor doesn't do this!
Maybe the bracelet will stretch over time.
Aren't there several steps that you can move in between?
What happened to the spring loaded clasp that Tudor did? I’m sure the Pelagos had a T-fit with an automatic spring loaded adjustment. 🤔
Yup, mystery why they never put it in another watch
It will be interesting to see if the new five link BB bracelet has the same problem.
I’m guessing the links are smaller anyway so probably not.
I have the same problem on my Black Bay Pro! Just can't get a perfect fit. Find the easy link on my Explorer works better.
Uncle Seiko makes a half link for the BBPro
Same. The ez link is just right for me
@@salmoreno6797 yeah but buying an aftermarket part for a near £3500 watch, of which a big fuss has been made as to how great it’s adjustable clasp is, just doesn’t seem right to me. Given uncle seiko and that have had to actually provide the extra half link in the first place because of their awareness of the problem, Tudor could of done a bit more testing on the T-fit.
@@UptickWatchReviews Yep wrist gets a bit tight when out and about during the day just click it out and good to go. Nice and simple.
@@stephenmurphy3961 I completely agree. Just saying there’s an affordable aftermarket solution if you like the watch and want to get the right fit.
What is your wrist size exactly?
I don’t understand why Tudor doesn’t make half links for the bracelets 🤷🏻♂️
Always Toulouse 😅
I have the same issue on my P39. It’s all down to your personal wrist size. However my bb58 gives me the perfect fit. I’ve never really understood the hype about the T-fit clasp as I’ve never been able to benefit from it …
My 300M tag aquaracer is so much easier, just push the button and slide as needed. Shame that Tudor which is highly regarded can't provide an easier clasp
Tudor is overrated
Yes, we need "hafe link" !
I have a same problem on mine tudor ranger 2022.. My Wrist is about 15.7 cm.. In the end I make a custom made leather strap..
It looks good though! Uncle Seiko do a good 1/2 link for the '58. Yeah, this sort of thing really irritates me, because let's face it, it's nickel and dime cost saving. As if margins were tight at Tudor Towers... If an expensive watch comes on a bracelet, there is no excuse not to adjust in 2mm (max) increments. Even clever half link design can achieve this (Parmigiani, Longines...), without micro adjust. Personally, I don't think Glidelock is all that - it could be finer. I find the current Sub pretty uncomfortable (SD116600 is better).
Citizen’s diver bracelets have the best expansion clasps
And that's something And the citizen watches Cost less than the taxes On this tudor watch😂
@@denbou00 made in China that's why.
@@g43654 Yeah in China But if you look on the wrist Of the real divers You only see citizen and watches
@@g43654 citizen and seiko have superior surface treatment on their titanium watches. my pelagos was a disappointing scratch magnet
@@edrader I had the Pelagos lhd And I end up trading for an omega aquatera For the same reason it
Really interesting...
I have an Uncle Seiko half link and the easy link from the other fellow on my BB58
Tudor should sell half links or 3/4 links to do coarse adjustments
wait till Uncle Seiko offers BB54 bracelet half-links
just wait for the uncle seiko half link
or try the one they have for the 58
Yup, still need a half link.
The Tudor BB GMT and BB Chrono do not fit me on the bracelet, so I wear all Black Bays that come with that nasty rivet bracelet on Rubber.
Guessing the new Opaline one has the same issues which is a joke.
I would prefer two extra micro adjustment points beyond the length of a full link, and not a half link as they are a bit ugly.
I had the same problem. Ordered a half link.
From uncle seiko?
@@jeff1231 mine was from uncle straps. Quality is ok but definitely not as good as factory. Fits perfectly now.
Uncle seiko have a half link for the 58 bracelet .
👍cool video.
Don't know why Tudor doesn't just provide the suspension clasp from the 42mm Pelagos on all their dive watches. It's the most practical solution for people who live in humid climates as your wrists will keep changing size as you move in and out doors from the heat to air conditioning.
Funny you have a BB54, BB58 and a SD4k. You can't settle on one size or one watch. First world problems!
Its perfect! Aahhh.. can't watch these first world problems. Send me the watch, i give you 80% list price 😅😅🤣
I had the exact same issue with the Tudor Ranger I bought last year. Too tight with a link out, too loose with a link in. The problem is they made the adjustment about the same on link. This is such a bad design for me. I had to buy a half link from uncle seiko that fits but does not exactly match the bracelet to make it fit in the middle. This could all be fixed by providing a half link from the beginning from Tudor but as far as I could find out last year they don't offer one in this size. Such a huge disappointment in my opinion.
Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy and sorry to hear you're in the same predicament
Still better than the easylink on my OP 🤷♂
The ez link is trash I don’t know who it’s useful for
I prefer the easy link tbh. It's ideal for how my wrist expands
@@UptickWatchReviews your wrist must expand A LOT.... so maybe put the other link in?
Pretty much the same flexibility offered with IWC, ALS and GO. Different system, same adjustment possibilities
Tudor should make 1/2 links
Same for me with bb58 bronze 😩
Does Uncle Seiko offer bronze half link? 😂
Have the same issue on my ranger
Maybe a half link then but that’s really annoying
The T-fit needs to be the same size as the Rolex submariner clasp
But the Ranger bracelet fits the 58.
Is the steel of the ranger the same colour as the 58? The 58 black has a very different shade than the blue, so no way the ranger can be both...
What's with Tudors fascination with fake rivets ?
It's riveting to them :-)
@@UptickWatchReviews ....LOL😁
Same thing happend to me with pelagos39
Good old Tudor making everyone feel the pain of no half-link.
After these years Tudor still can’t get the fit right
This is probably a none issue.
Rolex has a well thought out clasp design. Rolex “nailed it” with their design of micro adjustment of their clasp. Tudor failed on this new T lock system leaving you only 0.10” total adjustment. This is called in the manufacturing world. We saved some machining time on the clasp and money. Lets move forward and rush it out to the public. We will make changes later date and charge the public again for it.
Half link by uncle seiko coming soon 😅
Hope they bring A titanium half link out for my pelagos 39
A couple of things:
1. As Uptick mentioned, some people will experience this issue.
2. While having half links would be a helpful option, it's not a perfect solution as I have a watch in my collection where I still struggle to find the ideal fit even with half links.
Finding the perfect fit can be as difficult as finding the perfect watch.
Thanks for sharing! I'm sure many will find your video educational and beneficial!
Since half links aren't actually half the size of a full link but slightly more, you might find 2 half links will help.
This certainly helped me get the correct fit on my 16610, after I used 2 half links from a 116610.
Only 3 links takeout
Its not to loose your wrists change through out the day thats the right fit for you
my local AD pissed me off when sizing my bracelet. i wanted it a bit loose and they said that is not how Rolex wants you to wear it. i was like WTF? you controlling fucks already pick and choose who can buy the watches now you tell me how to wear it?
You are one of many sheep following orders.