Table tennis training session with coach Liu Juan (part 1 - loops)

In this session Liu Juan giving me advice on my looping technique from one position and in backhand-forehand drills.
В этой части тренер Liu Juan дает мне советы по технике выполнения топ-спина справа и слева из одной точки, а также в динамике через упражнения с переходом слева-направо и справа-налево.

[@zazenforever4940]

Very good lesson. So your coach has you follow through lower on your forehand. I've been told to follow through to my forehead and it's hard at times. You look good!

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

@@zazenforever4940 thank you ! Yes I feel her advice was spot on

[@RedArrow2007]

She is a good coach. I use a heavier blade but I also exercise to strengthen my arms, my shoulders, my legs, and core. Then the blade is not that heavy. I liked your forehand, it was very good once she got you to use the proper technique.

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

@@RedArrow2007 thank you! Yes putting the whole body into shots definitely makes things easier

[@explorery6691]

Your fh and bh are so stable!! I feel that your elbow is fixed at that position, and you hardly move your upper arm, most of the backhand loop is down by the wriest. How do you feel with this 20 mins training? Is it tiring? and btw, Is that Lester Fan sitting next to the table? lol :)

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

Thanks man! Yes, you got it right. The full training was 1 hour long, 3 sections by 20 mins. It wasn’t too tiring, it was just very humid and hot in that club (summer…). I liked the training, I feel like I’ve got useful advice from Liu Juan. It will take time until I can fully implement these things into my game, but already now I feel my game changing.
And yeah it’s most certainly Lester there - he helped with translations into English :)

[@scooterinmie1]

keep the spring in your legs when you are doing backhand practice (around 6:41), like shocks in a car.

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

@@scooterinmie1 thanks, good point

[@frankdong7396]

Backhand became much more stable

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

Thank you!

[@alexeykan7455]

Вот вроде норм всё с синхронизацией ног-корпуса-руки на фх-топсе, но рука идёт не по-китайски далеко от корпуса и её как-то много в том числе в локте, из-за чего создаётся ощущение шлепка, а не удара. Плюс в конечной фазе ракетка по-советски идёт к противоположному плечу, а должна ко лбу, из-за этого на заваленных ударах из локтя идёт ненамеренное обратное боковое вращение

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

Спасибо за комментарий, приму к сведению.

[@DanielsTischtennisecke]

Hi. So I'm curious why she told you to use less wrist during the backhand stroke? Was it so you just concentrate on the under arm movement and to get the tight timing there first?
Because the more "tutorials" and trainings I personally watch, the more I realize how different the tips are from each coach. From almost no wrist to very heavy wrist usage.

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

Thank you for your question! She told me that because my wrist was too loose and, hence, less consistent, harder to control the contact with the ball. Using more forearm helped stabilize it and increased consistency. I still will be using my wrist in certain situations but I have now a better sense of how to control it in a rally game.
Techniques vary person by person, so for me it was “use less wrist”, while other people might involve it much less if at all on backhand, so they are told to use it more. It all depends on your technique. I think the better you feel the ball the more you can involve your wrist on bh, because it adds quite a bit of power to the shot, but should be controlled.

[@DanielsTischtennisecke]

Thank you for the answer! Appreciate it. Keep up the good work!

[@odessit777]

Оо, какие люди... Ютюб плохого не порекомендует. Привет из мериленда

[@odessit777]

@@chyngyzdavletov214 kostya kostya

[@odessit777]

@@chyngyzdavletov214 kostya (chopper)

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

Привет, Костя! Рад «видеть» :)

[@odessit777]

@@chyngyzdavletov214отлично выглядишь. имхо, особо в голову комментарии не бери... Все мы индивидуальны, плюс минус техника у всех немного разная. Конечно какие-то большие вещи можно пересмотреть но только по совету 2500-2600 а не диванных экспертов

[@user-je3ng3hs7h]

Shift your body weight a little from foot to foot? Did she mean it?

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

I guess you can say that. I am not sure which point in the video you are referencing though, without a timestamp, so I cant quite respond to your question.

[@user-vc7zk9tv4d]

Какие советы она тебе дала?

[@chyngyzdavletov214]

находить оптимальное расстояние от стола, не слишком близко, не слишком далеко, учитывая мой рост; сильно не размахиваться справа, сделать удар более компактным; слева сократить махи кистью, опять же выполнять удар более четко и компактно, стараться больше задействовать предплечье; не опускать ракетку сильно вниз в открытом розыгрыше, так как там почти все мячи с верхним вращением, которые не нужно поднимать снизу, а нужно играть "пОверху"; при переходах слева-направо и справа-налево больше использовать повороты ногами и стараться сохранять "связанность" корпуса, ног и руки.