The Comic Industry is Pure Garbage! Wizard Magazine 64, December 1996
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Thank you for keeping the Gareb Shameless " moniker alive. He escaped the industry relatively unscathed for amount of damage he did to the industry overall.
Ted McKeever - Superman's Metropolis, Batman: Nosferatu, Wonder Woman: The Blue Amazon
That Thunderbolts page was kayfabe, Marvel was trying to sell these new superheroes in Wizard before they revealed the villain twist
Thunderbolts is one of the movies Marvel Studios is doing next, looking at that image of them in here feels like a bad omen.
The upper picture in the comic code article is the infamous "Fridging" of Kyle Rayner's girlfriend
The three McKeever Elseworlds were Superman: Metropolis, Batman: Nosferatu, and Wonder Woman: The Blue Amazon, which was based on The Blue Angel. There were two more proposed based on Green Lantern and Aquaman, but DC turned them down.
Man, I wish those other books could have been completed!
Only Greg Capullo should draw Angela. It's a shame Marvel has basically put her in the vault and lost the key...
Good point, now that Capullo is back at Marvel why not not let him draw a variant cover with Angela or something…
That Spidey cover is great, RIP Mike Wieringo.
X-Men TAS wasn't cancelled. They simply fulfilled their contract. First a season of 13 episodes, then another season order of 13 episodes. Then Fox bumped it up to 65, then 70, to be animated concurrently. Production of the episodes were farmed out to several different animation studios, rather than AKOM, who mainly had worked on the first two seasons. After the Phoenix Saga, episodes were not as continuously linked back-to-back as they had been before and were designed to air mostly in any order. However, some came back late or with several animation errors that had to be fixed and still managed to mess up the continuity. Some aired with the animation errors in tact and were later corrected for future airings. Some STILL have the animation errors left in.
For example... Lady Deathstrike was originally drawn without a shirt on (the animators based her design on the toy rather than the model sheets they were sent) and had to reanimate several thousands of animation cells once the producers saw it. The original Phoenix Saga intro aired without voice over narration that was added in future airings. 'No Mutant Is an Island' was aired two years after it was intended and then was completely reanimated a second time from the ground up. One version aired in North America, the other in Europe. If you look around, you can find comparison videos and screen shots. 'Cold Comfort' has a bunch of overlapping animation from different scenes that was never fixed. Episodes like 'Longshot' and 'A Deal with The Devil' aired a year or two after intended.
The series was still bringing in solid ratings, so Marvel and Saban wanted to keep it going with another season. The producers pitched a final season as tying up lingering threads from the series. Fox wavered at times between order numbers, but ultimately decided on 6 more. By then, Marvel was mired in bankruptcy proceedings and couldn't put up the money, so Saban decided to animate it in-house rather than farming them out to another studio... thus the "simplified" design of the final six episodes were created as a cost saving measure.
I never actually owned an issue of Wizard (they were hellishly expensive because of import costs), but I made sure to read through every issue I could at my local news agent. Man I feel old
This was my first issue of Wizard. Got it off the magazine rack at a Blockbuster Music. I had no idea things were this bad in the industry but for a teenage kid who had no access to the internet at the time, this issue blew my mind.
Just glance over the Ron Marz Q&A. Poor guy.
You guys mentioned Kelly Jones is the ongoing batman artist at this point, would love to see you take a look at Batman & Dracula: red rain, it's from the peak era of intercompany crossovers and it feels like DC realized they could do one in house with a public domain character and not have to split the profits, but Jones kills it, and really evolved and gets more abstract through the trilogy because they're so far apart
This is about where the road starts getting ReEEeEeEeEeEal rocky lol. Camt wait for the rest of this series!
I was 14 and all about Vertigo and Dark Horse, along with the Maxx, Grendel, and I dropped 99% of marvel/dc
Thunderbolts having a generic look to them was also the feedback back in the ‘90s when Hulk #449 came out but before issue #1 was released. The design turned out to be brilliant when we found out that the characters were villains. Imagine a bunch of villains designing their own look for the express purpose of fooling the general public. What would it turn out to be? I’d imagine it’d be very similar. Perry smart on Busiek and Bagley’s part.
"Marvels 2" would end up being released as "Marvels: Eye of the Camera", a 6 issue mini-series written by Kurt Busiek and drawn by Jay Anecleto. The main character continued to be Phil Sheldon, the photographer that was the main character in "Marvels".
Mike Parobeck did an interesting half issue of Guy Gardener Warrior, where Marc Campos did the other half, which tells the same story simultaneously in 2 contrasting styles. Campos in a "House guy doing extreme studios" style and Parobeck in the Aventures/Animated series style issue. GG Warrior issue 41. Might make a decent vid.
lets get some likes for these gentleman putting out dope content on the reg
I heard if you get to 100k subs you have to review the Spider Man Clone Saga, ALL OF IT.
Kidding but it would be funny.
That would be awesome! Story aside, the whole arc had a plethora of amazing artists. Bill Sienkiewicz, John Buscema, JRJR, Dan Jurgens inked by Klaus Janson, John Byrne... I could go on, but you get the point.
God I miss Toyfare magazine. It was so awesome and I can't forget about Mego Spidey and crew those comics were so damn funny!!! To me that was the true MCU!!!
I laughed so hard when they flipped the page to the Hep Cats article. I nearly died when they flipped the page to the Ron Marz article.
and then the cut so they don't even comment on it lol. But yeah, having read some of Hepcats, pretty terrible
I love that there are no comments on the Ron Marz article.
Hey fellas. A young Jack Black is in Mars Attacks. I rewatched it recently and I literally paused the movie and said aloud, " Is that fucking Jack Black?"
I wish you guys would do an entire episode of those books Ed calls "rich kid comics" that buy an entire ad page of a Wizard but look like garbage. Great episode as always!
McKeever's Elseworlds "Wonder Woman -The Blue Amazon", was patterned after the 1930 German classic, "The Blue Angel", starring Marlene Dietrich, famous for her singing the song "Falling in Love Again".
13:30 I remember reading these when they came out and really liked it. The story was from the perspective of the police that have to deal with super heroes. Cool storyline, but yeah the art was never going to live up to Alex Ross. I dug it tho
Man, I'd love to see a look at the Impact Comics line. I have fond memories of some of those titles. Be interesting to see how or if they hold up.
A lot of the start of my collection was Impact books my dad and I picked out of the dumpster at our LCS around ‘98 or something.
That was the comic line of:The Shield,the FLY,Jaguar and a few other heroes I can't remember right now. I think I still have some issues of those comics in my storage unit. Haven't read any of them in years tho.
Haha. I loved that heroes reborn Iron Man. It was all about how Whilce drew the Hulk like no one else. After watching you guys eviscerate that comic….I cannot defend that take. It’s really bad.
Ref.... FemForce issues #200 came out last year, and while it has been cheese cake stuff for sure, the recent issues have had some nice colorful Pop Art imagery, and the story telling has been fun superhero stuff... if anyone sees a copy on the shelf at your LCS pick it up and give it a look.
Dunno how I know this but pretty sure the Uncle Sam character in the Alex Ross series is not the Mort of the Month DC superhero character… but rather the creative team’s take on the classic propaganda character.
Would love to see y’all look at it to gauge whether it has aged well. There were some striking images and ideas presented in there. A wild, sorta brave artistic follow-up to Marvels and Kingdom Come.
The prince of Anthrocon had me dying lmao
Mike Weiringo did some great issues of FF. In fact he was one of my favorites from the post 2000's period. Really cartoony style but also super Art Adams influenced. Rest in Peace Mike Weiringo
46:00 Am I the only one who was monumentally annoyed that Jean Grey had no code name?
Mike Parobeck was an incredible artist and one of my favorites of the 80s and early 90s. His style to me was a mixture of Fleischer and Byrne and was a welcome alternative to the image gang for me. His work on the Justice Society comics was exceptional. Gone FAR too soon.
RIP Eddie P. ❤❤❤❤
This was such an insightful episode. I would love to hear your opinions on the early influx of manga in the 90s and the quasi manga like Warrior Nun Areala and Ninja Highs School. Thank you for such a fun look at the time I started reading comics.
21:37 LOL classic ad, great racer as well
Heh my only memory of that Top Cow/Marvel crossover was "wow, what a cool drawing of Mephisto, too bad Top Cow's comics suck"
0:28:15 Scott Hanna inked most of JRJR's Spider-Man stuff, including the conclusion of the clone "saga". The drawing here does not look like Hanna Inking at all, so I had to look it up. Turns out it's from the Al Milgrom-inked cover from Spider-Man #75. Not that interesting.I'll admit, but again, I had to look it up so there you go ;)
RIP Eddie
Shooters headshot looks a lot like Dave Sims punisher ROACH
I bought the Top Cow Marvel stuff…good point why was it not Ripclaw and Wolverine!?! Lol😂
Roman Reigns knows four moves, two of which include headlock and armbar, both resting holds. Somehow, he's managed to be champion in WWE for nearly half a decade and make the entire roster look pathetic. I'll keep mine AEW.
I LOVE wizard but to see these videos you guys are messing with my mind at that time LOL
14:46 Boondoggle for the WIN! Bottom left corner.
Whatever happened to the new spawn movie?
I just flipped through Code of Honor #1 on the Marvel app while watching this, that looks terrible
26:55 Id watch a video of that
28:15 Believe it or not, that’s Al Milgrom on inks.
"You guys really bought this shit didn't you?" No. At that point, I had taste in comics and started getting the indie shits.