I started my pc builder journey during covid. I went from an AIO in a mid tower to now a custom loop rack mounted EPYC server that resides in a different room than my main rig. Your talk of honing your “engineering skills” really inspires me!…..to do a water cooled threadripper AI build…Thank you!
For me personally it was worth it to switch as even the biggest gpu coolers are limited by their fans and surface area and i do perceive them even through the headset, only thing i regret when i started wcing two years ago is building in the paean premium which unfortunately isnt so premium and buckles under the weight, nevermind some qol features missing compared to an o11, on the plus side the paeans performance is excellent due to its layout, however i will probably switch to a thermaltake core p3 pro and just go with two rads or the Bykski B-WCTP-X depending on the final pricing when it arrives at ezmodding. One cool thing about watercooling in general is that you can make it as complex, cumbersome or as pragmatic as you want, and in that sense i think that huge cases like a 9000d or v3000+ are completely outdated approaches given how easy watercool made external cooling with their mora iv, sure its an initial investment, but one needs less fans, fittings, maintenance is way easier and one can choose any case, and its hilarious in a cool way when people pair itx builds in something like an nr200 with a mora 400. Going further with that thought, i think like with most hobbies frustrating moments lead one to quit for a time, but it usually fades and people approach it from a new angle.
With how good air coolers have gotten in the past few years, i've started to think of AIO liquid coolers as more of a 'CPU + case ventilation' combo. With a lot of cases supporting room for 7, 10, or even more chassis fans, you end up spending ~100$ish for a good air cooler that vents into the internal area of the case, and still need to buy enough fans to fill the open slots and vent that heat. an AIO can run about the same amount- 100-150$ ish, but takes up 2 or 3 of the chassis fan slots, meaning 2 or 3 less individual fans you need to buy. With some of the more pricier options being up to 125$ for a 3pk of fans, this can easily make an air cooler significantly more expensive for a whole build when you factor in the rest of the parts. Regardless of if the AIO is operating as air intake (better CPU cooling, higher internal case temps) or air exhaust (worse CPU cooling, less contribution to internal case temps) the AIO is contributing more to the overall airflow in a case compared to a 1 or 2 fan air cooler and at a cheaper price point.
Watercooling just saw a peak because of Intel chips drawing 200W and being ~10% better than AMD. Now we're just in a valley for the hobby because the best chips draw less than half that and air towers manage just fine. It'll be back if we start getting consumer chips that are top performers and draw 200W+ again, which honestly, sucks so lets just not.
Mine arrived with not enough liquid and I had to send it back. It was ok for horizontal setup, but when radiator was vertical (tubes down), pump started making air bubble noises
The right channel audio is disabled on purpose in this video ?
Hey thanks! I just realized it was. I'm not sure what happened
I instantly checked my headphones before I saw Your comment xDDD
@albertwesker4266 yeah I had the audio messed up
Thank ypu for stating the obvious in the first few seconds.
I started my pc builder journey during covid. I went from an AIO in a mid tower to now a custom loop rack mounted EPYC server that resides in a different room than my main rig. Your talk of honing your “engineering skills” really inspires me!…..to do a water cooled threadripper AI build…Thank you!
@@freightrainfred7512 that would be pretty awesome! I would love to see that
Apologies for the one channel audio
For me personally it was worth it to switch as even the biggest gpu coolers are limited by their fans and surface area and i do perceive them even through the headset, only thing i regret when i started wcing two years ago is building in the paean premium which unfortunately isnt so premium and buckles under the weight, nevermind some qol features missing compared to an o11, on the plus side the paeans performance is excellent due to its layout, however i will probably switch to a thermaltake core p3 pro and just go with two rads or the Bykski B-WCTP-X depending on the final pricing when it arrives at ezmodding.
One cool thing about watercooling in general is that you can make it as complex, cumbersome or as pragmatic as you want, and in that sense i think that huge cases like a 9000d or v3000+ are completely outdated approaches given how easy watercool made external cooling with their mora iv, sure its an initial investment, but one needs less fans, fittings, maintenance is way easier and one can choose any case, and its hilarious in a cool way when people pair itx builds in something like an nr200 with a mora 400. Going further with that thought, i think like with most hobbies frustrating moments lead one to quit for a time, but it usually fades and people approach it from a new angle.
With how good air coolers have gotten in the past few years, i've started to think of AIO liquid coolers as more of a 'CPU + case ventilation' combo. With a lot of cases supporting room for 7, 10, or even more chassis fans, you end up spending ~100$ish for a good air cooler that vents into the internal area of the case, and still need to buy enough fans to fill the open slots and vent that heat. an AIO can run about the same amount- 100-150$ ish, but takes up 2 or 3 of the chassis fan slots, meaning 2 or 3 less individual fans you need to buy. With some of the more pricier options being up to 125$ for a 3pk of fans, this can easily make an air cooler significantly more expensive for a whole build when you factor in the rest of the parts.
Regardless of if the AIO is operating as air intake (better CPU cooling, higher internal case temps) or air exhaust (worse CPU cooling, less contribution to internal case temps) the AIO is contributing more to the overall airflow in a case compared to a 1 or 2 fan air cooler and at a cheaper price point.
Watercooling just saw a peak because of Intel chips drawing 200W and being ~10% better than AMD. Now we're just in a valley for the hobby because the best chips draw less than half that and air towers manage just fine. It'll be back if we start getting consumer chips that are top performers and draw 200W+ again, which honestly, sucks so lets just not.
It’s always going to be worth mixing fluids with electronics. Good lord. You can’t walk away from the damn thing when it’s on.
erm , the FREEZER aio 360 is still the best cooler for vram and gpu
That is a great aio price per performance for sure
Mine arrived with not enough liquid and I had to send it back. It was ok for horizontal setup, but when radiator was vertical (tubes down), pump started making air bubble noises
AI generated thumbnail....you know what the means....
@@zeroxception sure do I have elons brain chip implanted
I love the Thundercats! I hope they do the movie right...
ur right audio channel is dead
Yeah I caught that. I fixed it this morning thank you
Intel keeps it relevant 😂
They need each other