Honestly, it difficult when you’re talking about actions vs intentions. Assuming we’re going by intention here, I honestly think gigi and cecilia don’t really do good for good sake. Feels like they just follow orders. I particularly don’t see cecilia saving someone if she isn’t asked to do so. “FOR JUSTICE”
Mumei is Neutral Evil imo, especially if you go by her actions during streams. Shiori would be Lawful Evil, she's extremely dangerous by lore and by character she reminds me of some cartoon villains sometimes by her antics. Edit: Very fun video m8 keep it up!
Fauna [allegedly] is actually an evil witch who stole the powers of nature from its previous keeper, Nemu, and turned her into her pet. At least from Nemu's point of view lol
Nah that was just a “story” she made up and even questioned right after telling it (cuz she likes that little horror element) but it’s not canon. Plus logically, no way the gods that made her or CouncilRyS, especially the ones made before her, wouldn’t have noticed this
I guess Baelz being lawful neutral goes to show that her passovely influencing others to be chaotic on stream despite her lawfulness is lore accurate. Though I do interpret her chaos as punk-style chaos. A punk can still have a solid moral code, but it isn’t influenced by authority, which in my honest opinion even an anarchist can be lawful neutral or lawful good/evil if they bring down their government through a self-imposed code. (Take Zaheer in Legend of Korra who would be lawful-evil by his actions and aspires for anarchy)
I got to say Mumei belongs in neutral evil at least. In her Don don music video it is confirmed that she among other things caused the black death, sunk the Titanic and Atlantis, and caused the Hindenburg. She will commit mass murder just because she felt like it.
Judging from their lores, it sounded as if that the deities that somehow connected to all of them are Azathoth and his descendants. What do you guys think? If so, what does this mean to the One with the 99 names? P.S: The species that perished during the Siberian Trap event have something else to say about Queen Fauna.
Re: Lawful Neutral, Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil I see alignments as this. Lawful to Chaos is the spectrum of Order that character respects. Good to Evil is the spectrum is on their values in morals. Heading towards neutral from both axes, it more becomes about personal survival. I personally don't like the idea that any ONE or two of these alignments as "obsessed" or "delusional" since zealotry can pop up from any point in the plane. That said, I've played a lot of Lawful Neutrals and Lawful Evils. There's nuance. Lawful Neutral is someone who abides to order because it benefits themselves. These can be people who are in seats in power who want to stay there for the benefits. Or those who proclaim order as their means preservation. Two characters can have the same alignment but can have drastically different motivations-that's just humanity. Lawful Evil was the definition I didn't like on this video. They're not exactly delusional. They just questionable morals as they're willing to do bad things to uphold order. Sometimes, they don't have a choice in the matter. Some see the law as means to justify their actions. Neutral Evil is a tragic character. They're more-or-less reliant of morally dubious acts in order to sustain themselves. They're characters who are driven to the brink of insanity who are constantly trying to fight their demons aware they bring harm to others in their wake and trying to not succumb to chaos. This is the separation between the Chaotic Evil. Chaotic Evil is harm for harm's sake. It has no goal, at least to our typical understanding. This is why I heavily oppose characters who build CE characters when I'm the GM. You have to REALLY convince me and sell me to your concept. Give me something to work with than just giving every good-doer, not just the other PCs, being constantly after you.
I think you're closer than the video, but you're still missing a bit. Lawful Evil doesn't have to uphold order as a goal; their lawful component just means they have to believe in some sort of order, be it the law or some sort of personal code. Neutral Evil doesn't have to be tragic or insane. They just have to not generally care about other people. They don't have to go out of their way to hurt people, but they'll never give it a second thought if it's the easiest way to get what they want. And Chaotic Evil is eternally the most-misunderstood alignment. It is NOT harm for harm's sake. It's the amorality of Evil combined with the "free thinking" of Chaos. They don't care about people and they don't care about rules. It's easy for that to end up as the stereotypical rampaging maniac, but that's far from the only way Chaotic Evil can play. Of course, these alignments also CAN be what you described, but they don't have to be that extreme.
Ame should be Neutral Good if anything. As a detective she would be law-abiding and live by a code, which is the epitome of Lawful but she does have her moments of being a maniacal gremlin which would be more Chaotic.
the way i see it Kronii is lawful neutral as time is inevitable and does not discriminate. Fauna is true neutral, nature does not aid good or evil, nor does it favour order or chaos, it's all about balance. Bae is obviously chaotic neutral
Biboo is 100% Chaotic Good. Lol. Anyone who delivers thatas much cringe (Gyatt for Nerizzler is a perfect example) while openly laughing about it is far from Neutral. 😂😂😂
i would absolutely put gura into chaotic neutral and ina as well. you see when gura bit ina in her sleep, ina actually did unleash the ancient ones and both did battle with zero regard for any inacent bystanders, causing the destruction of marines pirate ship in their wake, that doesn't sound like something a "good" person would do, even a chaotic one.
I think IRyS should be lawful neutral. She is half demon and half angel after all and her character is honestly pretty morally ambiguous. Hope is pretty much always a good thing but there's an aspect of mystery to IRyS like we don't know the whole story of her mission on earth.
fun fact there is a term in chemistry called entropy or how unoriginized things are...or chaotic. And without it nothing grows and nothing changes so if the entropy of the universe ever becomes 0 we are fucked so makes sense Bae would not be evil
you said lore but where's gura's gawr? I think each gen has true neutral Amelia / Baelz / Shiori / Cecilia Ame - already bends the laws of time, she follows her own way, the Ame way Bae - chaos is everywhere and doesn't conform to no one Shiori - she just want to archive everything Cecilia - she's just a blank slate atm, no significant order to follow
Also one of the more recent lore-ish videos was that she stole the trident and used it to forcibly leave Atlantis, in addition to bathtub pizza and the multiple feet compilations.
Eh?!? She stalked, harassed, hunted and killed Mumei on the towl's first Minecraft stream just for the lolz. Same thing later with IRyS and Kronii for the first Senpai Tax of quartz, which she invented in the first place so she wouldn't have to farm it herself.
TRUE NEUTRAL IS MUMEI. You all weird, guys. TRUE NEUTRAL IS SOMEONE WHO CAN DO BOTH GOOD AND BAD STUFF. Mumei can do good stuff can do bad stuff. She's not chaotic evil. She obeys rules, she cares about animals and stuff. Unlike Jiji and Cecil who can be so evil. Throwing this and that in games Edit : you guys seems misunderstand about "neutral good" and "neutral evil". If u think a neutral character need to be all good, then it's just NEUTRAL GOOD. if u think mumei is neutral but evil, then it's neutral evil. But then again, mumei is in the middle. Neutral neutral. True neutral. Can be good and evil
Even tho i did say that i would take their personality into consideration, I really mainly just looked at their lore!
Shame no recap or chart at the end
Shiori did say she killed the elf she took her bookmark from, so she is willing to hurt people in her pursuit of knowledge.
The way you described ame and gura make them sound like chaotic neutral, no going out of their way to do good
Amelia Watson is Lawful Good.
@@Lemuel928 Then why did she ground pound my mom?
@@scruffyryan ground-pounding your mom is morally correct, therefore it's a lawful good action.
gura and ina also broke marines pirate ship
I find it funny how the embodiment of chaos isn’t in chaotic alignment
Honestly, it difficult when you’re talking about actions vs intentions.
Assuming we’re going by intention here, I honestly think gigi and cecilia don’t really do good for good sake. Feels like they just follow orders.
I particularly don’t see cecilia saving someone if she isn’t asked to do so. “FOR JUSTICE”
so true lawful?
Cici is true neutral, because whatever she does is FOR JUSTICE.
What's justice you might ask? Whatever she wants.
Mumei is Neutral Evil imo, especially if you go by her actions during streams. Shiori would be Lawful Evil, she's extremely dangerous by lore and by character she reminds me of some cartoon villains sometimes by her antics.
Edit: Very fun video m8 keep it up!
appreciate you!
Mumei: I'm not Chaotic Evil yet? Guess you want to be hurt more. 😊
lawful?
Fauna [allegedly] is actually an evil witch who stole the powers of nature from its previous keeper, Nemu, and turned her into her pet. At least from Nemu's point of view lol
Woah, that’s actually so cool
Nah that was just a “story” she made up and even questioned right after telling it (cuz she likes that little horror element) but it’s not canon.
Plus logically, no way the gods that made her or CouncilRyS, especially the ones made before her, wouldn’t have noticed this
FuwaMoco's alignment is doggo. xP
(Also, I feel Callie went from Lawful Neutral to Neutral Good when she stopped reaping peoples' souls)
I guess Baelz being lawful neutral goes to show that her passovely influencing others to be chaotic on stream despite her lawfulness is lore accurate.
Though I do interpret her chaos as punk-style chaos. A punk can still have a solid moral code, but it isn’t influenced by authority, which in my honest opinion even an anarchist can be lawful neutral or lawful good/evil if they bring down their government through a self-imposed code. (Take Zaheer in Legend of Korra who would be lawful-evil by his actions and aspires for anarchy)
*passively influencing
or Technoblade
Bae is more a harbinger or emanator of chaos; she herself isn't very chaotic, but wherever she goes chaos follows.
If your job is chaos, does being chaotic make you lawful?
@@KGH3000 tbf this is actually what punk logic is like. If punk gets defined in a certain way by authorities, then they will subvert that definition.
I got to say Mumei belongs in neutral evil at least. In her Don don music video it is confirmed that she among other things caused the black death, sunk the Titanic and Atlantis, and caused the Hindenburg. She will commit mass murder just because she felt like it.
Clearly Bae’s alignment is Chaotic Lawful, has a strict code of conduct but no one knows what it is
Instructions unclear, ended up somehow in True Neutral
I think lawful evil also means doing bad things but having a personal code they follow
Judging from their lores, it sounded as if that the deities that somehow connected to all of them are Azathoth and his descendants. What do you guys think? If so, what does this mean to the One with the 99 names?
P.S: The species that perished during the Siberian Trap event have something else to say about Queen Fauna.
Re: Lawful Neutral, Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil
I see alignments as this.
Lawful to Chaos is the spectrum of Order that character respects.
Good to Evil is the spectrum is on their values in morals.
Heading towards neutral from both axes, it more becomes about personal survival.
I personally don't like the idea that any ONE or two of these alignments as "obsessed" or "delusional" since zealotry can pop up from any point in the plane.
That said, I've played a lot of Lawful Neutrals and Lawful Evils. There's nuance.
Lawful Neutral is someone who abides to order because it benefits themselves.
These can be people who are in seats in power who want to stay there for the benefits.
Or those who proclaim order as their means preservation.
Two characters can have the same alignment but can have drastically different motivations-that's just humanity.
Lawful Evil was the definition I didn't like on this video.
They're not exactly delusional. They just questionable morals as they're willing to do bad things to uphold order.
Sometimes, they don't have a choice in the matter.
Some see the law as means to justify their actions.
Neutral Evil is a tragic character. They're more-or-less reliant of morally dubious acts in order to sustain themselves.
They're characters who are driven to the brink of insanity who are constantly trying to fight their demons aware they bring harm to others in their wake and trying to not succumb to chaos.
This is the separation between the Chaotic Evil.
Chaotic Evil is harm for harm's sake. It has no goal, at least to our typical understanding.
This is why I heavily oppose characters who build CE characters when I'm the GM. You have to REALLY convince me and sell me to your concept. Give me something to work with than just giving every good-doer, not just the other PCs, being constantly after you.
I think you're closer than the video, but you're still missing a bit.
Lawful Evil doesn't have to uphold order as a goal; their lawful component just means they have to believe in some sort of order, be it the law or some sort of personal code.
Neutral Evil doesn't have to be tragic or insane. They just have to not generally care about other people. They don't have to go out of their way to hurt people, but they'll never give it a second thought if it's the easiest way to get what they want.
And Chaotic Evil is eternally the most-misunderstood alignment. It is NOT harm for harm's sake. It's the amorality of Evil combined with the "free thinking" of Chaos. They don't care about people and they don't care about rules. It's easy for that to end up as the stereotypical rampaging maniac, but that's far from the only way Chaotic Evil can play.
Of course, these alignments also CAN be what you described, but they don't have to be that extreme.
Ame should be Neutral Good if anything. As a detective she would be law-abiding and live by a code, which is the epitome of Lawful but she does have her moments of being a maniacal gremlin which would be more Chaotic.
Now i wanna see the chart based on their past actions/stream. Lets see it shuffle😅
the way i see it
Kronii is lawful neutral as time is inevitable and does not discriminate.
Fauna is true neutral, nature does not aid good or evil, nor does it favour order or chaos, it's all about balance.
Bae is obviously chaotic neutral
Kiara is straight up Lawful Evil.
I.E. Bottom Left. XD
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lawful neutral for kiara? i guess the usual room isnt technically part of her official lore... but damn...
Biboo is 100% Chaotic Good. Lol. Anyone who delivers thatas much cringe (Gyatt for Nerizzler is a perfect example) while openly laughing about it is far from Neutral. 😂😂😂
i would absolutely put gura into chaotic neutral and ina as well.
you see when gura bit ina in her sleep, ina actually did unleash the ancient ones and both did battle with zero regard for any inacent bystanders, causing the destruction of marines pirate ship in their wake, that doesn't sound like something a "good" person would do, even a chaotic one.
I'd almost argue Cecilia is chaotic evil 😂 but i love it and all for it 💚🔪
I think IRyS should be lawful neutral. She is half demon and half angel after all and her character is honestly pretty morally ambiguous. Hope is pretty much always a good thing but there's an aspect of mystery to IRyS like we don't know the whole story of her mission on earth.
Mumei is straight up evil and we like it. Neutral evil it is.
fun fact there is a term in chemistry called entropy or how unoriginized things are...or chaotic. And without it nothing grows and nothing changes so if the entropy of the universe ever becomes 0 we are fucked so makes sense Bae would not be evil
Bae as a chaos is not really evil, she is just unpredictable.
you said lore but where's gura's gawr?
I think each gen has true neutral
Amelia / Baelz / Shiori / Cecilia
Ame - already bends the laws of time, she follows her own way, the Ame way
Bae - chaos is everywhere and doesn't conform to no one
Shiori - she just want to archive everything
Cecilia - she's just a blank slate atm, no significant order to follow
Don't know of any time Gura did anything immoral or unjust? Are you kidding me? Bathtub pizza ring any bells?
FACTS MB
Also one of the more recent lore-ish videos was that she stole the trident and used it to forcibly leave Atlantis, in addition to bathtub pizza and the multiple feet compilations.
Eh?!?
She stalked, harassed, hunted and killed Mumei on the towl's first Minecraft stream just for the lolz. Same thing later with IRyS and Kronii for the first Senpai Tax of quartz, which she invented in the first place so she wouldn't have to farm it herself.
TRUE NEUTRAL IS MUMEI.
You all weird, guys. TRUE NEUTRAL IS SOMEONE WHO CAN DO BOTH GOOD AND BAD STUFF.
Mumei can do good stuff can do bad stuff. She's not chaotic evil.
She obeys rules, she cares about animals and stuff. Unlike Jiji and Cecil who can be so evil. Throwing this and that in games
Edit : you guys seems misunderstand about "neutral good" and "neutral evil".
If u think a neutral character need to be all good, then it's just NEUTRAL GOOD. if u think mumei is neutral but evil, then it's neutral evil. But then again, mumei is in the middle. Neutral neutral. True neutral. Can be good and evil
Wow calm down jamal...!
Sorry but if this video include Amelia and not Sana, i didn't take it seriously
Why? 🤔
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