It was muy first camera and still have it. Since I bought, I'm always a Canonist. This camera was and is amazing, a great personality and a piece of a history.
Great review. I got my 650 in 1988. I was using a T50 at the time ( which was a gift ), so the 650 was a big step up for me. I used it for a long time until I got an Elan 2e, and then a Elan 7e. I just dug up my 650 from the back of my closet to run a roll of film through it ( feeling nostalgic, this is the 35th anniversary of it's release). It worked flawlessly, no problem with sticky shutter release button or any other problem. Like any other camera, once you get used to operating it, it's easy to use, and very reliable. Great little camera, especially for the money ( cheap these days ). Would make a good student camera, and like you said, any EF lens can be used on any film or digital camera upgrade, as long as they use the EF mount.
While I see your point about Manual mode not being affected by Exposure Compensation there is one thing happening behind the scene. Your metering is indicating if you are under or over exposed at your settings. This is also factoring in your desired Exposure Compensation which is useful if you wish to push or pull the film. I like to shoot by Sunny 16 and overexpose by a stop in manual mode, just for the satisfaction of progressively getting better at reading the light... dialling that stop of Exposure Compensation in and checking the guess against the camera meter is fun.
I've walked into my local Canon shop and bought a brand new 24-70 F4L using a voucher someone gave me for Christmas. The look on their face when I mounted it on an ancient EOS650 was worth it. It worked flawlessly - even the image stabilisation. It's just easy to use, comfortable in the hand and unobtrusive. Once you know what the autofocus is looking for, it doesn't seem so hit-and-miss. Even when the AF misses - you can still get split-prism viewfinders for it to take manual control. It's become my 'go-to' camera for holidays and travel - I can hand it to anyone, they can stick it in 'green square' and they'll be able to get a picture out of it, even if they've only ever used a phone.
Hey there. A big canon fan from Latin America here. I´ve been searching and searching about old slr`s and over all canon cause im a canon user. Just found your channel and think THIS ARE THE BEST VIDEOS EVER. Not just show and old camera but bringing back all that information lost in time wich no body else carry in blogs or web pages easily. Please keep making videos and maybe give information what camera replace one other and why.
EOS system changed everything and basically made Canon global photo market leaders, beating Nikon and setting a standard for modern auto focus and professional reporter cameras design. Great reviews, keep it up!
I recently bought EOS 650 and it works very well with old EF lenses, but there's a problem with new ones (say, made in 2014) - there is a weird horizontal blackout on part of the frame (like a black lightleak or something), which i assume to be some sort of a mirror/shutter problem. Got any ideas of what that is? Example www.flickr.com/photos/hki_drifter/28290490031/ p.s. it is definitely not a development issue, because it's different on each frame, and only 17 out of 36 exposures had it.
Just picked up a 620 from KEH (and an F1 as well). First rolls of film I've shot in probably 20 years. 620 really feels like a pretty respectable piece of kit. Fun stuff!
The battery was/is the only complaint I have on my Elan ii. So I found a battery grip for way cheap and now run Amazon basic AAs rechargeables. While I love all the things the Elan ii does, and it is an amazing camera, still love my FD Canons. The feel of an A-1 or AE-1 Program or even the T70 can't be beat. In my never humble opinion.
Probably the best value used 35mm body out there. I paid $20 for my EOS 650 on eBay. Unfortunately, the shutter bumpers tend to disintegrate overtime if they're not kept properly, leaving goo residue on the shutter curtain. However, it's a pretty easy to clean off with some alcohol and a few notecards. Other than that they make great cameras, especially if you already have a bunch of EF lenses.
It would not be until the introduction of the T-90 before I began to adopt these All-In-One designs and not until the introduction of the EOS 1 before going AF. Like many at the time who were pondering about the move to AF, I was a bit angry that Canon did not adopt a lens mount system that would accommodate both EF and FDs like Nikon had done. In hindsight, however, I suspect that with Canon sticking to a pure EF system and phasing out the FD, this likely allowed Canon to perfect their AF technology to the point that Canon would usurp Nikon's dominance (especially in the photojournalism arena) for the 90s and beyond, though now in the DSLR era, it is pretty much at an even pace. So, any chance you might profile the Canon T-90? That said, I recently divorced from Canon after 39 years, switching to Fuji-X (don't hate). All in all, they were great years both professionally and for personal use, but I needed a change.
Based on this, I bought an EOS 650 for 20€ in almost mint condition, really nice body! Heavy, solid, dutiful. Very good viewfinder as well. AF speed is reasonable, I don't mind. Overall, very pleased. I compared it with an EOS 100 at the same price and preferred the older model, which is better to my eyes on everything except AF speed and silence shooting.
Great review! I have the 630, got it mint in box from Japan. Quickly learnt that a knock off EF lens will not work with these cameras!!! So I had to buy genuine Canon lenses and they work like a charm!
Great video!! By the way, you gained me as a subscriber as of today. I hope to see more videos from you as your schedule permits! I've owned a 620 for nearly 30 years and it has been nothing short of reliable and a dedicated workhorse. While I shoot a 6D full frame DSLR, I still prefer film for black and white. And unless I'm tripod shooting and using the mirror lock on my EOS-1n, my 620 still gets pressed into service as it just works wonderfully with far less heft than the 1n. A couple questions. I noticed your handgrip on the 620 is the GR10 model which does not have the connector for the cable release. Is that the way Canon Canada distributed the model or did you purchase it that way you purchased it? My 620, when purchased new in 1990, came with the GR20 grip with the cable release connector as standard equipment from Canon USA. The 650 had the GR10 grip though. Also, had you had to have the internal 3V lithium button cell (used to retain settings like ISO, exposure mode, etc) on yours? Canon claimed 5-10 years for the backup battery but mine is still going strong after 29 years. Lastly, the 620 was preferred by me over the 650 for the faster flash sync (1/250 vs 1/125 for the 650) and maximum shutter speed (1/4000 vs 1/2000 on the 650).
I guess your 620 is fresher than the 650? Inside they are 99% equal. I just got my dad's 650 today. Looks brand new and is an early one, March 1987. Together with two lenses and a 300EZ Flash. Look forward to shooting with it. Your vid helped out a lot!!
I've been wanting to get a DSLR for a while, but recently dug up my parents' old 650 while cleaning my dad's office. The whole kit is complete with lense, flash, and instruction manuals. (The flash still works after all these years with the old AAs!) I'm wondering if it is worth it for me to invest in new film and batteries to experiment around with the camera. The only caveats I have about this are that the lense has a rattling sound coming from inside of it; the fact that I would need to purchase new film and batteries; and that I would need to go get the photos developed.
SenorSexylicious If you have it anyway take it out and give it a try. Unless your lens are trashed you can carry them forward to a Canon dslr as well. Some of the older Rebels are quite inexpensive used now... or for a couple of bucks more you could carry on to the Canon 5D classic which is still an awesome full frame dslr after all these years.... but pick up a box or two of film and try that camera.
One of my all-time favorite Canon EOS models, and it has one of the biggest and brightest viewfinders i've ever seen on an SLR before, unfortuately mine ended up dying a few months after i bought it due to the sticky shutter problem, and that's the problem, these cameras are super unreliable, maybe the times come to buy another one, or just use my EOS 500.
Perhaps you've never seen the OVF from a Minolta XD7, X-700. Or the cheapskate bread & butter X-300, they've all extraordinary big OVFs inside, through the X-series. That OVF is even bigger, than into the 2008/9 introduced 24 MP FF Sony Alpha 850/900 DSLR, which was truly a Konica-Minolta DSLR, but since Sony bought all KM assets into 2006, and KM quit then the camera gear business, it was being released as Sony gear.
Hai would recommend to buy the the EOS 650 camera? am not a professional photographer but I love to take pictures..and was thinking of buying a camera that takes good quality pictures! thank you..
I'm a new sub to the channel, and I'm amazed by this video. Being a Canon user, I'm collecting the early EOS cameras, where did you get the ads and old footage from. Many thanks.
Nice review but in my opinion not enought technical explications. Eos 620 shutter is the same as T90. 1/4000 sec and synchro flash 1/250. dont forget screen illumination in blue... so nice... I have 650. 620. 630. RT and 1. Eos RT is fantastic in low Light conditions. no vibrations. and super quiet. Eos 1 for sports With booster. but heavy like hell ! for commun use I prefer 620... good for all. nice feelling. nice shutter sound. I use il with modern glass. all works like. like IS and nano usm ! continue your good job !
Here's a question for you. I have in my collection a 650 but just bought a 630. Where does the 630 fit into the scheme of things? I got the 630 with a brand new 2CR5 lithium battery, two rolls of colour film, and an EF 50mm F1.8II for forty bucks. I will purge the lens when I get a front cap for it for double what I paid. It has a lovely Hoya UV filter on it.
I sorted it out after I asked the question. The 630 came after the 620 in 1989. It apparently improved on auto-focus speed. Like the 620 the shutter seems way more robust when compared to the 650. I find the Canon museum website a little confusing.
hi Azriel, thank you for the great review you made this long time ago, you said you are gonna keep these as collector pieces and not as working horses, which canon 35mm camera from the 90s would you recommend as working horses, something like a EOS 3 ? kind regards
Thanks for the question. These days I tend to cycle out what I have reviewed for new cameras. Despite how many dif cameras I have shot with, I don't have much of a collection. I'd rather know they are being used by someone.
Azriel Knight I have an adaptor that let's me put the old FD mount to my modern Canon EF mount. I also own an adapter for my old Minolta MD mount lenses. To work on my Canon DSLRS. I bought them from Fotodiox.
Schardt Cinematic Productions Can you confirm if the adaptors will work with the 650 EOS. I have a M42/EOS adaptor but it will not let me take pictures with any of my SMC Takumar lenses. I don't know if this is an electronic issue or if the mirror doesn't clear the adaptor.
excellent, thanks a bunch, just bought a eos 620 from value village, perfect condition, no lens for 29 Canadian dollars. I'm probably going to purchase a pancake lens for it. looks good. Calgary I like more than Edmonton, but keep it a secret.
Love the video, I am currently looking at purchasing a 630 to expand my film camera collection. From what you have commented on the 620 and 650 would you say this is a middle ground between the two? Thank you.
A little late to the show, but I'm wondering if the canon BP 511 battery would work with the 650? They look awfully similar but I can't remember where I heard the 511 would work. I'm just trying to buy batteries so I can actually use the thing!
Hi Lawrence, thanks for the question. The 511 is not comparable. New flashes will work on old Canon's though, so you can get TTL metering with a newer flash like the 580ex II on a 650. Don't put old flashes on new cameras though. Hope this helps :)
I am looking at getting this camera or the 10s for shooting IR, I will be using my Zuiko OM lenses with an adapter so autofocus won't really matter - do you have a recommendation there? I figure simpler is better, but I'm not sure if newer is better for the camera condition.
Can I ask why you're using adapters? I ask because what I like the most about the EOS 35mm SLR's is the autofocus and being able to use modern lenses, so depending I might not recommend this one, but something more mechanical.
I don't have any EF lenses and doubt that I will get any since I don't have Canon digital. I already have an Elan IIe I use manual lenses on which is sort of funny - but I'm not shooting action or anything.
Excellent videos, thank you. One question: if the 620/650 are essentially prototypes, what's the Canon model from this era that qualifies as the "finished" version? Anything in the $100 price range?
Hi David, glad you enjoyed the video :) Not sure if this answers it for you but the canon EOS 5 or A2e feels a lot like modern dslr's in the way it operates. I have a video on it you could check out. ruclips.net/video/mNSaTQajT9c/видео.html It really depends what you want though. I hope this helps :)
Thanks, Azriel. I've watched that one a few times too already! I love my AE-1 and have also owned various 5D DSLR models over the years, and am just looking for something "in between" that I can use my L-Series glass with. I'm thinking I'll give the 620 a try.
the ef-s lenses were designed for crop sensor cameras, and are designed to be closer to the film plane. you risk bumping your mirror at worst, or at least causing serious vignetting.
Azriel Knight that's ok it's something small. I just have to remember to take the battery out each time I am done using it. I think I'll save up money to fix the camera in the future.
Three Questions - 1: Where are the results of the built-in light-meter displayed? - 2: Does the green info shown in the viewfinder disappear or is it permanently visible? - 3: How bright is the viewfinder (your personal impression)?
Hello, thanks for the questions! 1. should be both in the viewfinder and the top display. 2. It's been awhile but I believe it displays when the shutter is half pressed. 3. I'm not one to notice something like that unless it's obvious, so I would say there's nothing special wither way...maybe a little dark? I hope that helps!
@@AzrielKnight well, I'm waiting for it to arrive in a few days. Ill reply here when I'm done testing. If it's like on the digital bodies it should work just fine just no bip when it achieves focus
I just bought a 620, and the exposure meter doesn't blink when under/overexposed, but in program mode, it changes settings based on light. Any thoughts?
The manual says the shutter speed and aperture should flash when proper exposure cannot be made. Then it said some other confusing things haha. If you hold the aperture button to adjust, it will say "op" for open or "cl" for close, but nothing ever flashes (blinks) in the viewfinder (other than the in-focus indicator). It's weird that the meter seems to be functioning, but not triggering the display to blink like it should lol.
That's odd. Without it in my hand it's not easy to tell. For me, when something is going screwy, I ask "what is the elusive obvious" The typical "is is plugged in" type questions. So in your case "is the battery dying?" or "Does it act different with a roll of film inside?" Perhaps the 620 is just different from the 650 in that regard.
Has anyone had this camera before? I recently got one and bought a newer lens on eBay, but it won't take a photo. It seems to work and be in good condition. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with it not sensing my lenses focus, any thoughts? Or has anyone experienced this?
It will attempt to advance and fail. Then indicate the roll is done. This works for 12 20 and self rolled canisters of odd numbers. The camera tries to pull the film a pre determined amount and if it can't it won't let you take another photo.
Hi there, I bought a 620, literally tonight. While testing with a 50mm EF 1.4, it worked properly. Short after, the camera would only trigger when the lens was off. With the lens on it would show the bc-error (turn on horror music). When I took the lens off again, and it was working again as the camera should, from 30" to 1/4000. Any idea what the problem could be?
Thing is, the EOS 650, -620 are really ugly cameras, from a aesthetic PoV...but they've done their homework. Into the early days of Canon EF Mount, up to ca. mid 90's - Nikon still was king in terms of AF SLR, but Canon scored hard among pro's, with their EOS-1 series, and all further, later iterations..many AF points, and a fast framerate, also weathersealing.
It was muy first camera and still have it. Since I bought, I'm always a Canonist. This camera was and is amazing, a great personality and a piece of a history.
Great review. I got my 650 in 1988. I was using a T50 at the time ( which was a gift ), so the 650 was a big step up for me. I used it for a long time until I got an Elan 2e, and then a Elan 7e. I just dug up my 650 from the back of my closet to run a roll of film through it ( feeling nostalgic, this is the 35th anniversary of it's release). It worked flawlessly, no problem with sticky shutter release button or any other problem. Like any other camera, once you get used to operating it, it's easy to use, and very reliable. Great little camera, especially for the money ( cheap these days ). Would make a good student camera, and like you said, any EF lens can be used on any film or digital camera upgrade, as long as they use the EF mount.
I feel like this channel is gonna go far, keep it up!
Sid Brunskill Wow thanks! Pressure is on I guess :P
Azriel Knight is this camera considered crop frame or full frame. I've looked everywhere online but nowhere is it telling me if it's full or crop.
"Full frame" is supposed to be the same dimensions as 35mm film, and since this camera takes 35mm film then it's "full frame."
While I see your point about Manual mode not being affected by Exposure Compensation there is one thing happening behind the scene. Your metering is indicating if you are under or over exposed at your settings. This is also factoring in your desired Exposure Compensation which is useful if you wish to push or pull the film. I like to shoot by Sunny 16 and overexpose by a stop in manual mode, just for the satisfaction of progressively getting better at reading the light... dialling that stop of Exposure Compensation in and checking the guess against the camera meter is fun.
I've walked into my local Canon shop and bought a brand new 24-70 F4L using a voucher someone gave me for Christmas. The look on their face when I mounted it on an ancient EOS650 was worth it. It worked flawlessly - even the image stabilisation.
It's just easy to use, comfortable in the hand and unobtrusive. Once you know what the autofocus is looking for, it doesn't seem so hit-and-miss. Even when the AF misses - you can still get split-prism viewfinders for it to take manual control.
It's become my 'go-to' camera for holidays and travel - I can hand it to anyone, they can stick it in 'green square' and they'll be able to get a picture out of it, even if they've only ever used a phone.
What you describe as metering is actually the drive mode: Single Continuous and Selftimer
+David Taylor oopsy, good catch!
This seems really advanced for the year it came out. Nice LCD display on the body, and the green LED readout in the viewfinder.
Yeah at one point Canon were the innovators like apple was in 2007 (compare the iphone to any other of the year).
Hey there. A big canon fan from Latin America here.
I´ve been searching and searching about old slr`s and over all canon cause im a canon user. Just found your channel and think THIS ARE THE BEST VIDEOS EVER. Not just show and old camera but bringing back all that information lost in time wich no body else carry in blogs or web pages easily. Please keep making videos and maybe give information what camera replace one other and why.
Thanks for the awesome compliment :)
Indeed a good review.
The 35-70 mm lens shown here is absolutely horrible, but the 50 mm is decent.
EOS system changed everything and basically made Canon global photo market leaders, beating Nikon and setting a standard for modern auto focus and professional reporter cameras design. Great reviews, keep it up!
+Dani Timo Thanks!
I recently bought EOS 650 and it works very well with old EF lenses, but there's a problem with new ones (say, made in 2014) - there is a weird horizontal blackout on part of the frame (like a black lightleak or something), which i assume to be some sort of a mirror/shutter problem. Got any ideas of what that is? Example www.flickr.com/photos/hki_drifter/28290490031/
p.s. it is definitely not a development issue, because it's different on each frame, and only 17 out of 36 exposures had it.
Just picked up a 620 from KEH (and an F1 as well). First rolls of film I've shot in probably 20 years. 620 really feels like a pretty respectable piece of kit. Fun stuff!
Thanks for sharing Tom, hope it goes well!
Another fine presentation. I'm eager to view the other episodes.
+John DiLiberto Thanks! I appreciate it!
The battery was/is the only complaint I have on my Elan ii. So I found a battery grip for way cheap and now run Amazon basic AAs rechargeables. While I love all the things the Elan ii does, and it is an amazing camera, still love my FD Canons. The feel of an A-1 or AE-1 Program or even the T70 can't be beat.
In my never humble opinion.
Probably the best value used 35mm body out there. I paid $20 for my EOS 650 on eBay. Unfortunately, the shutter bumpers tend to disintegrate overtime if they're not kept properly, leaving goo residue on the shutter curtain. However, it's a pretty easy to clean off with some alcohol and a few notecards. Other than that they make great cameras, especially if you already have a bunch of EF lenses.
Agreed. These days my film EOS is a 30V but I really liked the 650 and 620.
Thanks Azriel, this is very helpful. today I saw 650 here in Cairo/Egypt with 50mm F1.8 with an insane price tag almost 300 USD!!
Highway robbery!
It would not be until the introduction of the T-90 before I began to adopt these All-In-One designs and not until the introduction of the EOS 1 before going AF. Like many at the time who were pondering about the move to AF, I was a bit angry that Canon did not adopt a lens mount system that would accommodate both EF and FDs like Nikon had done. In hindsight, however, I suspect that with Canon sticking to a pure EF system and phasing out the FD, this likely allowed Canon to perfect their AF technology to the point that Canon would usurp Nikon's dominance (especially in the photojournalism arena) for the 90s and beyond, though now in the DSLR era, it is pretty much at an even pace. So, any chance you might profile the Canon T-90?
That said, I recently divorced from Canon after 39 years, switching to Fuji-X (don't hate). All in all, they were great years both professionally and for personal use, but I needed a change.
Based on this, I bought an EOS 650 for 20€ in almost mint condition, really nice body! Heavy, solid, dutiful. Very good viewfinder as well. AF speed is reasonable, I don't mind. Overall, very pleased. I compared it with an EOS 100 at the same price and preferred the older model, which is better to my eyes on everything except AF speed and silence shooting.
Glad I could be of some help!
just bought my 620 with 35 - 70 mm lenz... for a bargain (20€) on local site. Now the testing will start.... thanks for the nice video....
Hope it works out Carel, feel free to let me know how it goes!
So in depth, great research and production!
Thanks so much :)
Thanks a lot man! This is a great format. Hopefully your channel will grow!
But one thing I'd like to know, what do I have to do, to set the date one my 650?Do I need this Interface Unit TB?
Thank you!
Gibari Inkognito Yeah, an accessory back is what you'll need. Good old pen and paper is good too but I never remember ;)
Great review! I have the 630, got it mint in box from Japan. Quickly learnt that a knock off EF lens will not work with these cameras!!! So I had to buy genuine Canon lenses and they work like a charm!
Great video!! By the way, you gained me as a subscriber as of today. I hope to see more videos from you as your schedule permits!
I've owned a 620 for nearly 30 years and it has been nothing short of reliable and a dedicated workhorse. While I shoot a 6D full frame DSLR, I still prefer film for black and white. And unless I'm tripod shooting and using the mirror lock on my EOS-1n, my 620 still gets pressed into service as it just works wonderfully with far less heft than the 1n.
A couple questions. I noticed your handgrip on the 620 is the GR10 model which does not have the connector for the cable release. Is that the way Canon Canada distributed the model or did you purchase it that way you purchased it? My 620, when purchased new in 1990, came with the GR20 grip with the cable release connector as standard equipment from Canon USA. The 650 had the GR10 grip though. Also, had you had to have the internal 3V lithium button cell (used to retain settings like ISO, exposure mode, etc) on yours? Canon claimed 5-10 years for the backup battery but mine is still going strong after 29 years.
Lastly, the 620 was preferred by me over the 650 for the faster flash sync (1/250 vs 1/125 for the 650) and maximum shutter speed (1/4000 vs 1/2000 on the 650).
I guess your 620 is fresher than the 650? Inside they are 99% equal. I just got my dad's 650 today. Looks brand new and is an early one, March 1987. Together with two lenses and a 300EZ Flash. Look forward to shooting with it. Your vid helped out a lot!!
Yeah since this video the 650 bit the dust, partially my fault but the 620 did seem in better condition. I liked the few extra features it had.
got a 650 at goodwill today for $1, looks pristine. hope it works, waiting on a battery.
Good luck!
I've been wanting to get a DSLR for a while, but recently dug up my parents' old 650 while cleaning my dad's office. The whole kit is complete with lense, flash, and instruction manuals. (The flash still works after all these years with the old AAs!) I'm wondering if it is worth it for me to invest in new film and batteries to experiment around with the camera. The only caveats I have about this are that the lense has a rattling sound coming from inside of it; the fact that I would need to purchase new film and batteries; and that I would need to go get the photos developed.
SenorSexylicious If you have it anyway take it out and give it a try. Unless your lens are trashed you can carry them forward to a Canon dslr as well. Some of the older Rebels are quite inexpensive used now... or for a couple of bucks more you could carry on to the Canon 5D classic which is still an awesome full frame dslr after all these years.... but pick up a box or two of film and try that camera.
7:20 Rochester represent.
Thanks Azriel for this excellent, well-considered, thoughtful video review. This channel has far too few subscribers, in my honest opinion.
Thank you. :)
Hello, just found your channel and really enjoying it. Have you done a review on the Canon EOS 630?
One of my all-time favorite Canon EOS models, and it has one of the biggest and brightest viewfinders i've ever seen on an SLR before, unfortuately mine ended up dying a few months after i bought it due to the sticky shutter problem, and that's the problem, these cameras are super unreliable, maybe the times come to buy another one, or just use my EOS 500.
Perhaps you've never seen the OVF from a Minolta XD7, X-700. Or the cheapskate bread & butter X-300, they've all extraordinary big OVFs inside, through the X-series. That OVF is even bigger, than into the 2008/9 introduced 24 MP FF Sony Alpha 850/900 DSLR, which was truly a Konica-Minolta DSLR, but since Sony bought all KM assets into 2006, and KM quit then the camera gear business, it was being released as Sony gear.
Hai would recommend to buy the the EOS 650 camera? am not a professional photographer but I love to take pictures..and was thinking of buying a camera that takes good quality pictures! thank you..
+Juluv Mtonga It's pick the 620 over the 650 but both are solid cameras
Marvellous video! If you keep on doing this amazing format, could you make a video on the Pentax K1000?
+FilmjesMan For sure, one of my favs. It's on the list!
How do you check the shutter speeds and makes those amazing diagrams?? Do you use the recording method or something else?
Thank you! I have a hand made shutter tester I bought on eBay, and then I made the chart in Photoshop :)
I'm a new sub to the channel, and I'm amazed by this video. Being a Canon user, I'm collecting the early EOS cameras, where did you get the ads and old footage from. Many thanks.
I have an extensive magazine and commercial database that I've been acquiring for years.
Nice review but in my opinion not enought technical explications. Eos 620 shutter is the same as T90. 1/4000 sec and synchro flash 1/250. dont forget screen illumination in blue... so nice...
I have 650. 620. 630. RT and 1.
Eos RT is fantastic in low Light conditions. no vibrations. and super quiet. Eos 1 for sports With booster. but heavy like hell ! for commun use I prefer 620... good for all. nice feelling. nice shutter sound.
I use il with modern glass. all works like. like IS and nano usm !
continue your good job !
Thanks for the comment and suggestions!
Here's a question for you. I have in my collection a 650 but just bought a 630. Where does the 630 fit into the scheme of things? I got the 630 with a brand new 2CR5 lithium battery, two rolls of colour film, and an EF 50mm F1.8II for forty bucks. I will purge the lens when I get a front cap for it for double what I paid. It has a lovely Hoya UV filter on it.
Not sure actually, have you check the Canon Museum Website? Lists them all in order.
I sorted it out after I asked the question. The 630 came after the 620 in 1989. It apparently improved on auto-focus speed. Like the 620 the shutter seems way more robust when compared to the 650. I find the Canon museum website a little confusing.
hi Azriel, thank you for the great review you made this long time ago, you said you are gonna keep these as collector pieces and not as working horses, which canon 35mm camera from the 90s would you recommend as working horses, something like a EOS 3 ?
kind regards
Thanks for the question. These days I tend to cycle out what I have reviewed for new cameras. Despite how many dif cameras I have shot with, I don't have much of a collection. I'd rather know they are being used by someone.
legendary
I have both kinds of lenses. I prefer the newer EOS mount. It has allowed for greater flexibility with adapters as well.
both kinds?
Azriel Knight I think what he tried to say is that he owns both the FD and the newer EF mount lenses
Azriel Knight I have an adaptor that let's me put the old FD mount to my modern Canon EF mount. I also own an adapter for my old Minolta MD mount lenses. To work on my Canon DSLRS. I bought them from Fotodiox.
Schardt Cinematic Productions Can you confirm if the adaptors will work with the 650 EOS. I have a M42/EOS adaptor but it will not let me take pictures with any of my SMC Takumar lenses. I don't know if this is an electronic issue or if the mirror doesn't clear the adaptor.
Yo Dude! awesome stuff man... looking at a 630 on EBay... any thoughts ?
THANKS!
Never shot with the 630. Ask lots of questions?
excellent, thanks a bunch, just bought a eos 620 from value village, perfect condition, no lens for 29 Canadian dollars. I'm probably going to purchase a pancake lens for it. looks good. Calgary I like more than Edmonton, but keep it a secret.
Thank you Richard!
Does 650 fit with L series Lens?
Love the video, I am currently looking at purchasing a 630 to expand my film camera collection. From what you have commented on the 620 and 650 would you say this is a middle ground between the two? Thank you.
Thanks for the comment Thomas. I have not shot with a 630, but the differences I imagine would be really minimal.
Hey, does anyone know why this thing might don’t see any EF lens mounted? I’ve bought myself one of this and it’s the only issue it has.
great stuff azriel. do you have batt drain issues on the 620?
Jeremy Phua I honestly couldn't say. I tend to use one battery for several cameras and take it out when not needed.
A little late to the show, but I'm wondering if the canon BP 511 battery would work with the 650? They look awfully similar but I can't remember where I heard the 511 would work. I'm just trying to buy batteries so I can actually use the thing!
Hi Lawrence, thanks for the question. The 511 is not comparable. New flashes will work on old Canon's though, so you can get TTL metering with a newer flash like the 580ex II on a 650. Don't put old flashes on new cameras though. Hope this helps :)
Oh, I'm sorry! I was asking in regards to the battery. what battery works with the canon 650?
My camera only focuses but doesn't ever capture the image, what am I doing wrong?
Without more info to go on hard to tell. Do you hear the shutter fire?
Canon have been ahead for years
but now Canon is now behind in sensor domain.
Good review
Thanks Boris.
I am looking at getting this camera or the 10s for shooting IR, I will be using my Zuiko OM lenses with an adapter so autofocus won't really matter - do you have a recommendation there? I figure simpler is better, but I'm not sure if newer is better for the camera condition.
Can I ask why you're using adapters? I ask because what I like the most about the EOS 35mm SLR's is the autofocus and being able to use modern lenses, so depending I might not recommend this one, but something more mechanical.
I don't have any EF lenses and doubt that I will get any since I don't
have Canon digital. I already have an Elan IIe I use manual lenses on
which is sort of funny - but I'm not shooting action or anything.
What about this camera appeals to you?
Excellent videos, thank you. One question: if the 620/650 are essentially prototypes, what's the Canon model from this era that qualifies as the "finished" version? Anything in the $100 price range?
Hi David, glad you enjoyed the video :) Not sure if this answers it for you but the canon EOS 5 or A2e feels a lot like modern dslr's in the way it operates. I have a video on it you could check out. ruclips.net/video/mNSaTQajT9c/видео.html
It really depends what you want though. I hope this helps :)
Thanks, Azriel. I've watched that one a few times too already! I love my AE-1 and have also owned various 5D DSLR models over the years, and am just looking for something "in between" that I can use my L-Series glass with. I'm thinking I'll give the 620 a try.
Well made video. Thank you!
+Degotelo Thanks for watching!
When did the first Canon Rebel come out and what was it's model name?
Not sure, but you can find out by googling the "Canon Museum." shows all models in chronological order.
excellent video, subscribed
Thanks :)
Hey fella, sorry about this stupid question. Why does EF-S lens not work with it? Thanks in advance.
the ef-s lenses were designed for crop sensor cameras, and are designed to be closer to the film plane. you risk bumping your mirror at worst, or at least causing serious vignetting.
Azriel Knight thanks a lot for that info Azriel, very useful
I have a Canon EOS 650 that drains the battery very very fast.Any help?
No idea sorry.
@@ffs3pro Thanks!
Hope you can review the Canon EOS-RT.
Added to the list, thanks :)
Can you explain why the EOS 630 has a battery drain problem? I bought one a couple of days ago and lost the blue backlight.
Sorry I'm not sure, but I don't think all 630's have that problem.
Azriel Knight that's ok it's something small. I just have to remember to take the battery out each time I am done using it. I think I'll save up money to fix the camera in the future.
Three Questions -
1: Where are the results of the built-in light-meter displayed? - 2: Does the green info shown in the viewfinder disappear or is it permanently visible? - 3: How bright is the viewfinder (your personal impression)?
Hello, thanks for the questions! 1. should be both in the viewfinder and the top display. 2. It's been awhile but I believe it displays when the shutter is half pressed. 3. I'm not one to notice something like that unless it's obvious, so I would say there's nothing special wither way...maybe a little dark?
I hope that helps!
In manual mode, does the meter work if I have a manual lens without contacts ? I wanna use my Samyang 14mm
That is a good question. I am not sure.
@@AzrielKnight well, I'm waiting for it to arrive in a few days. Ill reply here when I'm done testing. If it's like on the digital bodies it should work just fine just no bip when it achieves focus
I just bought a 620, and the exposure meter doesn't blink when under/overexposed, but in program mode, it changes settings based on light. Any thoughts?
Not sure tbh. What did the manual say?
The manual says the shutter speed and aperture should flash when proper exposure cannot be made. Then it said some other confusing things haha. If you hold the aperture button to adjust, it will say "op" for open or "cl" for close, but nothing ever flashes (blinks) in the viewfinder (other than the in-focus indicator). It's weird that the meter seems to be functioning, but not triggering the display to blink like it should lol.
That's odd. Without it in my hand it's not easy to tell. For me, when something is going screwy, I ask "what is the elusive obvious" The typical "is is plugged in" type questions. So in your case "is the battery dying?" or "Does it act different with a roll of film inside?" Perhaps the 620 is just different from the 650 in that regard.
Has anyone had this camera before? I recently got one and bought a newer lens on eBay, but it won't take a photo. It seems to work and be in good condition. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with it not sensing my lenses focus, any thoughts? Or has anyone experienced this?
It should still fire without the lens attached, if it isn't it's probably the camera.
how does the camera know if you're shooting a 24 or a 36 exposure roll? so you don't waste like 15 photos
It will attempt to advance and fail. Then indicate the roll is done. This works for 12 20 and self rolled canisters of odd numbers. The camera tries to pull the film a pre determined amount and if it can't it won't let you take another photo.
It actually reads the DX code off the cartridge if possible to determine the film count. It also auto detectives ISO by reading the DX code.
I think both are right, if it has the DX code it reads from that and when it doesn’t, it “feels” the tension and rewind
so good! keept it up! good work.
can you tell me if theres a light meter inside the 620/650? (it would help me to buy one in ebay)
thanks a lot!
yes of course and a very good one ! matrix 6 zones. average and spot
@@christophewagner4028 nice. 4 years later. really relevant :D
Hi there,
I bought a 620, literally tonight.
While testing with a 50mm EF 1.4, it worked properly.
Short after, the camera would only trigger when the lens was off.
With the lens on it would show the bc-error (turn on horror music).
When I took the lens off again, and it was working again as the camera should, from 30" to 1/4000.
Any idea what the problem could be?
Sebastian Spiller tuff call but I would start by cleaning the lens mount connections. try another lens too if you can. hope it works!
Though I tried my 50mm and 20mm, without any positive result, I´ll try cleaning them.
Thanks for the tip and quick reaction.
Sebastian Spiller if you tried two lenses it may be the connections on the camera.
Hmm, could be, then.
Well, good thing I got it for 25,-, haha.
Thanks a lot.
Update: Took the whole thing apart and cleaned it with the blower-thing.
Fired twenty shots and now it's working WITH lenses.
:D :D :D
Great vid! Subscribed
Thanks Adam!
awesome. thx
no problem :)
Do you know how long the battery will last?
I'm afraid I don't as I tend to leave my cameras on by accident ;)
Pentax SPII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*cries in T90*
Why did Canon switch mounts? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yup.
Thing is, the EOS 650, -620 are really ugly cameras, from a aesthetic PoV...but they've done their homework. Into the early days of Canon EF Mount, up to ca. mid 90's - Nikon still was king in terms of AF SLR, but Canon scored hard among pro's, with their EOS-1 series, and all further, later iterations..many AF points, and a fast framerate, also weathersealing.
howww do i turn it to black and white mode on the 650?? thanks so much
Put black & white film in.
sweet, thanks. I had seen somewhere i swear the option to turn black and white mode on, but may be dreaming. appreciated.
dan james Wrong camera... you are thinking of the 650D dslr... not the 650 film camera.
"you don't have to be a pro to shoot like one..." well,that is offense to the product itself.