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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @UPEASTHAITIANZ
    @UPEASTHAITIANZ Год назад +1

    Great Topics.

  • @chrisollis3816
    @chrisollis3816 Год назад +24

    I'm a song writer, for nearly 50 years, and have never been heard. I do it for friends, family, and self. If not for those reasons, and if not for my Lord Jesus, then... I quit.

    • @definfected
      @definfected Год назад +2

      Amen brother!!

    • @richardperry4105
      @richardperry4105 Год назад +3

      Love your heart. If it wasn’t for Jesus I don’t think I’d be doing what I do.

    • @leftofcenter4
      @leftofcenter4 Год назад +4

      I am with you.. I do it for the creative outlet, I am glad I didn’t try to make a living off of songwriting. I worked as a tele com tech for 30 years.. The tech industry has destroyed many working musicians and song writers lively hoods. Sure there are those who have been in the industry decades with a A list contacts who make a living but for the most part, I write my own material and I know it could be hits, but I am happy to just perform my songs and praising God in my kitchen singing and playing my guitar. This is actually why there are so many industry engineers and producers on RUclips selling there celebrity knowledge to get clicks from inspiring beginners trying to get a leg up in an industry that has been hallowed out years ago, It’s a side business and for many there main source of income. The film industry is near the same reality. It won’t be long before the average Joe could use AI to create their own movies using any actor they decide to take the likeness from. Just like sampling sound. But now you can sample everything.

  • @datdude8162
    @datdude8162 Год назад

    The entertainment industry is a vampire industry. Anything where theres passionate people theres managers and money men taking advantage. Thx Barry. Keep fighting the good fight.

  • @chrisishoy7924
    @chrisishoy7924 Год назад +10

    If Taylor Swift can’t change the streaming business, nobody can. We used to have to fight the music labels, now we have to fight the tech giants too.

  • @Whyme103
    @Whyme103 Год назад

    When wax and cds went to the wayside and streaming came along it pretty summed it up.

  • @nunoandradebluesdrive
    @nunoandradebluesdrive Год назад +2

    I'm a musician and still trying to survive on the business. Yes, gatekeepers just changed. I struggle to keep motivated to even write songs.
    Even in the live music scene it's just ridiculous, from the bigger and even the smallest venues, there's new gatekeepers and small agents to monopolize access to those places..even small clubs. So, you can't even earn your money playing. I try to solve the problem for myself and others, and it's just insane.
    Musicians canibalizing on other musicians by all shapes and forms: tribute bands, cover bands playing for peanuts; and bands screwing each other by going even cheaper and/or becoming "agents" of clubs deciding who enters or not with clearly conflict of interest.
    Now, things change, and maybe musicians must take the job of being their own labels, use social media to push your band and gather public for yourself. Then there's the money part to consider, and drawing strategies and so on ..I feel it's possible, but we're not just artists anymore. We have to become something more..and really its exhausting.
    I have lots of discussions with other musicians, and promoters and so on, and they don't seem to like when I point the responsibility on them.

    • @acai929
      @acai929 28 дней назад +1

      Yeah I find the trajectory of the industry being “musicians are first and foremost social media content creators” and even though the amount of “jobs” that one has to do has increased the money one gets is even less than it used to be. It used to be that distribution deals generally meant that someone pays the musicians to sell their music and do something to promote it and take a cut from that. Now it’s that musicians pay to be distributed on streaming services and get paid peanuts for streams.
      Granted one could just be their own label and sell their music directly to their audience but that market is pretty much dead too as no one buys music as they’re subscribed to a streaming service.
      In a way it’d be great for the industry if there was a mass exodus away from Spotify and such but for it to actually affect things we’d need the big players to do that.
      On the bright side things like Patreon and such seem to be a viable path forward if one connects with a big enough audience.

  • @cmdess
    @cmdess Год назад +1

    Great video. My last check from ASCAP was 500. I have 800 works with them and 1,000 placements of TV. Streaming destroyed whatever was left after P2P. The solution to this is a flat living wage that keeps pace with the level of the artist. The artist agrees to have a normal job, about 4 hours a day. The artist puts out a certain amount of material and they are paid a wage. The flat wage concept gets rid of copyright and middle men and publishers and all the terrible PRO liars who are really just working for international interests (british empire) and using us to shake people down. The entire world is imbalanced because abuse of power just meant holding others down. The world should be a more linear experience. This whole idea of getting people to compete with one another for work is not society building but benefiting the class structure of oppression. In a world of more balance it is more clear who is corrupt because they have clearly amassed more than their share. Wealth is made through RACKETEERING , DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION. This society is grotesque. They are intentionally collapsing it but having the private sector in control is not a viable option. This whole thing of public and private is ridiculous. The private systems have destroyed the point of society and I'm not sure how the recovery happens when it is proven how treacherous people will be to get on for themselves at the expense of others.

  • @malekkushimuzik3580
    @malekkushimuzik3580 Год назад

    The ONLY way to change this, is we as human beings have to VALUE human beings again. It's that simple.

  • @xplanet2112
    @xplanet2112 Год назад

    Nice one Barry, tell the truth man!

  • @LaminarSound
    @LaminarSound Год назад +1

    Supply and demand. There are tons, and tons, and tons...... AND TONS, of songwriters. There are not that many people who are willing to PAY for original music. Comparatively that is... Its unfortunate, and where abuse IS happening, we need to find ways to reign it in. But ultimately, supply and demand are setting wages. You have to produce something truly unique, and then also market yourself consistently over a long time to produce recurring wealth and not one hit wonders. My brother is making a name for himself writing for Nickelodeon and Disney shows. Took him 6+ years of being dirt poor to squeeze a niche in for himself and get recurring work. As a musician and songwriter myself, I wish it were easier, and I dont have answers. But its clear that the market is flooded.

  • @michaelgroom7060
    @michaelgroom7060 Год назад

    Barry. Ilike your 2 cents. Wise words. If we could only find the answer.

  • @definfected
    @definfected Год назад +2

    Glad to know you're here for the right reasons Barry. It's great to watch your vids and interact with like minded individuals. Thanks for sharing!! Much ❤️ BJ!!

  • @GeorgeAmodei21
    @GeorgeAmodei21 Год назад +1

    I agree...Colt just did aa VId on this TOPIC. Thank you for making this Video Barry! George Amodei

  • @MGTOWwithGOD
    @MGTOWwithGOD Год назад +1

    Thank God I got out of the music industry. ❤❤❤❤😂😂😂. No more recording a lot of songs cheep, no more rentals and people abusing the gear and lowballing me. No more playing two gigs for 100$ bucks. No thanks. And people say I have so much talent! 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Vybescube
    @Vybescube Год назад +4

    These streaming platforms are taking advantage of the writers ✍️ it is sad. I love your channel because you keep it real. These people are opportunists capitalizing on Artists. So sad

    • @theandroids
      @theandroids Год назад

      Since the beginning of time.

  • @jackrorystaunton4557
    @jackrorystaunton4557 Год назад

    deeply troubling. says something about where today's music is going too.
    i wrote a really good song once. one day maybe I'll put in the work to make something out of it, but your take isn't encouraging me that now is the time!

  • @FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL
    @FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL Год назад +1

    I seriously preferred the times of Limewire. (One answer is sell physical products)

  • @malcolmfrancis4543
    @malcolmfrancis4543 Год назад

    Other than PRO’s we have no union, no representation. Thats the problem, we haven’t organized.No SAG. No AFTRA.

  • @teleoneil7214
    @teleoneil7214 Год назад

    As a former analog 32 track studio owner I'm finding your channel an inspiration to go out & do a repeat performance but reality hits when I look in the mirror and face the man looking back at me.
    The first time I watched your channel was 12 hours ago regarding the topic of an Apollo interface & you discussed the UA plugins. Wow! I was taken back with your subject matter & how honest yet you remained humble with your opinions! I was really happy I found someone who was telling it how it is, & seemingly very passionate about what he was saying ! And I said, who is this guy? But things changed in a heartbeat because I watched the following video that you called ' & then the next video was watched your

  • @UPEASTHAITIANZ
    @UPEASTHAITIANZ Год назад +1

    Use the exposure then make another route.

  • @benruppel9651
    @benruppel9651 Год назад +4

    Tbh I find myself much more rewarded by doing other things, besides music. I’ve tried music for well over a decade and literally gotten nowhere with it. 2 days going back to an old habit, rollerblading, and I got a clip skating. Do what makes you happy and gets you by financially. That second part rules out music, but it can still be fun, if you’re a pain freak 🤙🏼like me

  • @genuinefreewilly5706
    @genuinefreewilly5706 Год назад +1

    Recent Spotify news, demonitizing small creators for a quantity of streams, is rather depressing. Not because they are greedy, they are out of touch with a broad section of creators uploading content to their online digital warehouse of content.
    Something seems amiss, I am for so called organic reach and growth, Not seeing squat from Spotify. Other sites, not great, but I see moderate growth. I naively believed Spotify would sort material by machine learning and their so called fancy calculous to put music where it belongs. No they don't bother, that stinks of democracy
    No they left ethics and responsibility up to an ever expanding industry of grift, pay to play on playlists, and sketchy marketers. Some of the distributors are no better.

  • @lmrecorders
    @lmrecorders Год назад +2

    Name an industry that doesn't take massive advantage of it's labor pool? Sure the music business has a storied history of artists getting the shaft but businesses don't get big unless they are taking more than their fair share from a deal. You've mentioned that you work in the hotel business, do you have unionized housekeepers at your company? What is your perspective on the idea of a collective bargaining relationship between an employer and employee? These publicly traded companies exist to please their shareholders with persistent growth. It's an impossible trendline to uphold. Persistent growth for the top is always exerting maximum persistent pressure on the bottom of the pile.

  • @adambell4513
    @adambell4513 Год назад +2

    One way to combat this is to seek out and support truly “Indie Artists” and the like. Don’t feed the machine. Sure, the recordings may not be at the same quality as the label artists but that’s because they have the money to record with the best engineers, best equipment in the best facilities. But if you push past all that, some of the best and most creative stuff is being made by no name artists in small hobby studios. The industry wants a rinse and repeat formula of whatever worked last time. I know some may disagree but I’m just not into production line music and that’s what the “pro’s” have given us for some time. If forced to choose, I’d take a GREAT song with a mediocre/poor recording over a cookie cutter/poorly written song with a $1M recording.

  • @songsbyjayy
    @songsbyjayy Год назад

    A key factor that wasn’t mentioned here: songwriters are independent contractors under US law, and therefore they’re legally prohibited from negotiating royalties as a group (it would be considered price-fixing). That’s why there’s no songwriters trade union.

  • @HalcyonGuitars
    @HalcyonGuitars Год назад

    The solution is to create a platform that compensates artists properly. Do that, and all the artists will go there instead of Spotify.

  • @PeterBunch-u5q
    @PeterBunch-u5q Год назад

    I have seen my royalty payments drop to ridiculous levels. Often less than $10 a month. Not sustainable for creators.

  • @MrSkyTown
    @MrSkyTown Год назад +2

    Ya it’s sad. Music is becoming a real financial apocalypse for many writers.

  • @phoenixbenjamin
    @phoenixbenjamin Год назад +1

    I have not seen a royalty check in 4 yrs

  • @etherealaesthetics4706
    @etherealaesthetics4706 Год назад +4

    Honestly I've been making music since 2003 and never been in the spotlight. All my friends make music but never offered me a spot. I started with Fruity loops 3, I started with acoustic guitar to beats and now symphonies and symphonic music for a dungeons and dragons affiliate for free lol. Well I guess I do make some of my friends happy, so I'm happy but still kind of disappointed. I wish I was recruited to the club. Also and AI is way better than any human being now, I feel the pain.

  • @vc2tb
    @vc2tb Год назад

    I totally agree something has to be done but I don’t know how they’ll do it

  • @MrMusic-nd5to
    @MrMusic-nd5to Год назад +2

    Buddy Holly was way ahead of everyone! Singer, songwriter, and producer! 🎸

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 Год назад

      How?

    • @MrMusic-nd5to
      @MrMusic-nd5to Год назад +2

      How? Weren't you listening to what he said? Buddy Holly influenced the Beatles@@mrflynn01

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 Год назад

      @@MrMusic-nd5to who did Buddy influence at Motown???

    • @MrMusic-nd5to
      @MrMusic-nd5to Год назад +1

      I get it, you're "Pro Black." Everyone is influenced by each other but Buddy did it before it was fashionable. By the way, I'm Black and my father was a staff writer at Motown both in Detroit and when they moved to Los Angles. Music is colorless and "Beauty is only skin deep" you dig?@@mrflynn01

  • @michaelschuberth7802
    @michaelschuberth7802 Год назад +1

    sell a physical product' & end 'streaming services....When you buy a physical 'object' it has value, you can hold it in your hand, see it , hear it...streaming renders music as valueless, except to those selling you the service. Sadly, the modern world is addicted to all things that provide instant gratification.

  • @Zmuzikpradoocer
    @Zmuzikpradoocer Год назад +1

    Wow

  • @SoulSingerJTait
    @SoulSingerJTait Год назад

    Amen

  • @mattcero1
    @mattcero1 Год назад +2

    Great message and so true. Eddie Vedder tried pushing back on the "Ticketmaster" monopoly and my hat's off to him for his effort back in the day. It's rediculous. Chance the Rapper beat the system so why don't many others go by his model?

  • @protoolsfanatic7276
    @protoolsfanatic7276 Год назад

    They are there for advertising, booking and all around guidance because if you aren't making money they aren't. They need to make a living wage and no one's going to it for less than a living wage. Problem is their living wage is all your money 😂.

  • @studionoises
    @studionoises Год назад +2

    It has destroyed the industry

  • @NEALBABBITT
    @NEALBABBITT Год назад

    If someone had an answer there wouldn't be a problem, just like playing shows, there's always someone who will play for cheaper or for free because people have no shame. Until people decide to do what is honorable there will never be a solution.

  • @JohnFraserFindlay
    @JohnFraserFindlay Год назад +2

    Funny to think that you buy a boutique guitar that a master craftsman’s pours his sweat and knowledge into yet the sound of that guitar recording no matter how good is worth ‘virtually’ nothing.

  • @ericmontgomery5241
    @ericmontgomery5241 Год назад +1

    Well, you're not wrong. Same thing happens in the film industry. A writer gets hardly anything compared to the executives and actors. Corporate greed is the issue. Now Spotify doesn't want to pay artists to be on their platform. Then someone else should start a platform to replace ethem that is willing to pay the artists/songwriters their worth.

  • @jimp.7286
    @jimp.7286 Год назад +1

    Pop song writing took off clear back during the tin-pan alley era. Publishers made money on sheet music. Artists got screwed then as well - payed by the song. Doesn't matter the genre or technology involved, (ie; streaming),....greed is a constant.

  • @facelessproduction7059
    @facelessproduction7059 Год назад

    None say or even suggest that people who build houses, manufacture cars, sell cars, drive airplanes, make your pizza, restaurants, work in the shops, food, doctors, hospital staff, drive the bus, working in educational institutions should do it all for free! So what's makes people think that the art of making music, films and media production should do it all for FREE or be any different?

  • @TonyThomas10000
    @TonyThomas10000 Год назад

    Hence the term "starving artist".

  • @rtsasa1
    @rtsasa1 Год назад

    Back in Pro Tools??

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 Год назад

    Berry Gordy was screwed over by publishers, that’s why he started Motown.

  • @jdisrael7607
    @jdisrael7607 Год назад +1

    1. Find out who owns these studios, and call them out by name and their devilish deeds.
    2. Get artist to create their own streaming service made and owned by the original producers.
    3. Form a union to control the streaming service that cannot be purchased by outside vultures.
    4. Problem solved, because everyone follows the talent, not the vulture.

  • @TheRealNewBlackMusic
    @TheRealNewBlackMusic Год назад +1

    Now Barry you know doggone well that they could care less if all of the songwriters went on strike they have their Ace in the Hole its called AI😢 as a matter of fact even if all of the touring acts could go on strike they could care less they have their Queen ready to play It's called Holograms😢😢

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 Год назад

    yeah..................

  • @BedroomStudioGuy223
    @BedroomStudioGuy223 Год назад

    I have 4 solo albums out wrote and played every note without auto tune or loops or backing tracks in past 10 years I may have made 1000.00 bucks from all sources ie CD sales and streaming etc. certainly not enough to live on lol

  • @Roddo731
    @Roddo731 Год назад +1

    Where are you and I have perspective will probably similar ages… I think I remember back in the 80s a songwriter got something like six sense copy?? That doesn’t sound like much but if you got 1 million plays… my daughter didn’t EP I Nashville that six years ago, so I’m her manager, I took care of everything with the producer. I had coffee with him one day… The producer that is, he has a friend who writes country music has at the time six gold records so each one of those songs got 1 million plays. He said one of them was played 1,000,000 1/2 times on Spotify. He made less than $1000… I think this current generation just takes it as face value as… This is the way it is… Well, it’s not the way it was and it’s wrong, and I totally agree with you… Songwriters go on strike, shut down the music on the streaming services.

  • @thumbody1
    @thumbody1 Год назад

    I would love to see something change as well but I am a realist. As long as there are deep pockets that can, and will, do back room deals with those making the rules, 'cough-politicians' it will never change. As for the industry, they can burn in Hell AFAIC. I wouldn't care if it all went away tomorrow. I can still get enjoyment from making music for me and my friends. The quality of music has suffered greatly from these practices already and it's only going to get worse. Why should anyone do it? There is no incentive unless you just want to feed your ego. When TV and movies can't get quality music for their productions then they might start to realize the error of their ways but I doubt it. AI will take over. The consumer won't care and won't know the difference.

  • @nadersharif
    @nadersharif Год назад

    As always people will complain when it's too late, when streaming services came out artists were happy and thought it's the future. Now it's affecting everyone, I said it before and I'm going to say it again stay away from streaming services even if you don't make any money. That's all started when music ripping programs came out and done nothing about it.
    People want technology, easy to carry the music you love on your mobile phones or ipods! Now all artists are suffering from this great technology and money goes to big tech companies.

  • @timm3376
    @timm3376 Год назад +2

    I made $1.06 woo hoo. For the year😢

    • @Allious131
      @Allious131 Год назад +1

      Stop doing it for them ask for your money up front before you write anything, I would go underground and charge upfront.

  • @zonarecordingstudio
    @zonarecordingstudio Год назад

    Nice avid controllers

  • @HalcyonGuitars
    @HalcyonGuitars Год назад

    I think you meant royalty screwed…;)

  • @mypetdrgn
    @mypetdrgn Год назад

    I think the consumer needs to quit streaming, retail outlets should stop streaming… the net result of all the streaming YT included cheapens the art form to such a degree that people take it for granted.

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 Год назад

    Prince was ahead of the curb on this issue and people thought he was bat shit crazy.

    • @malekkushimuzik3580
      @malekkushimuzik3580 Год назад

      Not really. Prince was ahead on the phase that is now phasing out.... Streaming.
      However.... He was around when people still saw more value in each other than technology and that is the big difference.
      The only way for us to fight this is to value each other more than the technology, and I honestly don't see that happening.

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 Год назад

      @@malekkushimuzik3580 Prince was the 1st to sound the alarm.

  • @bestof467
    @bestof467 Год назад

    Either find a completely different business💵 model that works for the real artist or develop copy-proof📼 media that you can distribute. I wonder if Blockchain crypto music could work😂

  • @johndoe-cb5ck
    @johndoe-cb5ck Год назад +5

    Well almost ALL of the popular songs are terrible

  • @BedroomStudioGuy223
    @BedroomStudioGuy223 Год назад

    Now add AI and nobody's gonna make any money!