Sad they couldn’t fit a pun into the English. In the Japanese he says 勧誘は結構だ (kanyuu wa kekkou da) which means, to translate kind of literally, “I don’t want your solicitation.” Solicitation in Japanese is pronounced as Kanyuu, which sounds similar to “can you.”
It's just innocent meta humor, and honestly, I like this more. Sometimes you can change it to the other person speaking a different language to have the exact one for one meaning to the scene, but a bit of meta humor while also lighthearted jabbing at people from foreign countries, especially America, slowly speaking English like that will somehow make them completely understand you is a great joke. I wish the thumbs up was a bit more obvious though. I could barely tell it was a thumbs up at first. I feel a wink + thumbs up would have made it funnier as a 100% "yeah, we know you know" would gave it the perfect cap stone. This is a time where I think changing a scene made it just as funny for Japanese players as English players, but that's just me
I definitely did not notice the fourth wall break until I watched it again because of how subtle it was, but it’s definitely hilarious when I see it again lol
Yeah I wish that Ichiban went "HAHA THIS IS THE ENGLISH DUB BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH ISN'T THAT WACKY" instead of this already cringeworthy edit made by localizers.
@@jotarokujo4641 Actually, the edit was done by the Japanese team at the request of the localizers. Plus, going about it that way would be way too on the nose.
@@Kono_Dio-Da So westerner parasites are getting to directly meddle with japanese games now? Jesus christ, how do we live in an age where western game devs put more effort into sabotaging games they never made, as opposed to making their OWN games? Wait, silly me, I know the answer; we didn't keep the lemmings out. Fuck my life.
@@jotarokujo4641 That's not what I said. I said that the localization team asked that to be put in for the Englush Dub version of the game as a bit of meta humor. Playing the Japanese version, or even the English Version with the Japanese Audio, removes this animation from the scene
Thank goodness they made a 4th wall break with Ichiban to tell players that the dub version is indeed an ironic joke, otherwise the scene would be weird.
Aw... I would have appreciated the meta-humor of the English voice track having the guy speak Japanese... EDIT: It might not be Japanese in the English voice track but when Ichiban looks at the camera after learning he's speaking in English, that is serious meta-humor
I also love how in the Japanese version he speaks properly but he overly announciates everything in the English version as if he isnt familiar with the language because him and ichiban are speaking the same language to us. the guy who directed this scene was on point
That's kinda relatable. I feel like whenever a non native english speaker is asked something in English, they'll go "oh shit it's English" in their head as they're trying to remember the useful direction related phrases lol 😂 in English, too, because you've already clicked the language button, right.
When I got to this substory I was wondering why the hell was this dude speaking perfect english to a random japanese man, did he expect him to just know english?
Thing is... they kinda do!!! I lived in Kyoto for a while, would spend all day brushing up on my Japanese, go out ready to test it on the neighbours aaaaaand .... everyone I met would talk to me in English!
@@nathangould9549 literally all tourist from all corners of the world who come visiting my country speaks english and expect us to understand it, I became unofficial ambassador because I can understand English. And not just american. Recently, a french tourist tries to speak English to me, previously before that is Korean girl. Before that is english guy, nice guy that. But holy heck, the one time the American come with their military ship. The thing was gigantic as fuck...not like anything I have seen in the movie...well, it was the first irl time i actually witness the thing...
I commented on another comparison video that they should've had Ichi's text box be in Japanese to emphasize that he still technically is speaking Japanese, I think it would've been a nice touch.
That would be a fun bit, but do remember that subtitles do have other purposes than just translating languages. Like I don't think a deaf dude's gonna find that bit *aaaas* funny. lol
@@mchicken6390 well you gotta factor in terminology too. If this were about food instead of directions, imagine the foreign dude is br*t*sh, wanting a biscuit, and so ichiban hands him a biscuit and the dude asks where the chocolate chips are or something
- spends precious time and manpower forcing Sega Japan to insert little _wink wink nudge nudge haha ironic_ animation - "The Japanese people don't know about the slow head turn thing we have to teach them!" - can't see half of it because of the textbox Good job! Back to subs.
The english tourist in the Japanese version sounded nicer. In the english version, he just sounds like an asshole who just says "ugh, why can't you just speak english you idiot?" Definitely like the Japanese version more. Like, if we had that voice clip, since he was already english in that version, it would be neat.
It's too bad the talents of the English VAs they lined up for the dub were wasted with poor direction and almost deliberately shoddy localizations of the text. "Aha... it's English..." gets turned into "Oh sh--! It's English!", and although Ichiban says "Hm?" a different way every single time in the original, he says "Huh?" the exact same way every time in English. They also made the foreigner dude sound like a calculatingly irritating buffoon because rewriting SEGA's story and characters for them is evidently their job now...
Tbh this feels kinda wasted, he just talks slower, and he's obviously not Japanese, he looks very stereotypically English, if they're gonna make the joke he can't speak English, they shoulda went all the way
The joke isnt "he can't speak english". They make him talk slower to fit the stereotype of how americans talk to people in a foreign country (maybe they can understand me if I talk slower). It just falls a little flat when they both speak english, which is why the focus is on the head-turn.
At first I was upset but I find the meta humor of him turning to the camera cuz they’re fully aware also very funny. Also, guy isn’t “obviously not Japanese” he’s a recolored Japanese model. So he isn’t stereotypically English
English overvoice for japanese games should be banned and everyone who played it should be send to gulag. This is just horrible, how people can play with that?
You obviously didn't think when you posted this comment the world doesn't revolve around you they're are people who can't read because they either didn't learn or they have dyslexia so that wouldn't be fair to leave them out also you have the option to change the language
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I expected them to replace with something like german or french, but this works.
I honestly expected them to go with the Persona 3 route where English is French
Or Persona 4 Golden where English is Spanish
me too lmao
Persona 3 is trash, fact
@@UltraNAGO
Persona 4 is also factually garbage
@@abovethelaw4417 go play fortnite kid
When you play in japanese and have german subtitles on it says "oh shit he is speaking german".
What
Same difference
Well, after all English is a Germanic language xD
Sad they couldn’t fit a pun into the English. In the Japanese he says 勧誘は結構だ (kanyuu wa kekkou da) which means, to translate kind of literally, “I don’t want your solicitation.” Solicitation in Japanese is pronounced as Kanyuu, which sounds similar to “can you.”
It's just innocent meta humor, and honestly, I like this more. Sometimes you can change it to the other person speaking a different language to have the exact one for one meaning to the scene, but a bit of meta humor while also lighthearted jabbing at people from foreign countries, especially America, slowly speaking English like that will somehow make them completely understand you is a great joke.
I wish the thumbs up was a bit more obvious though. I could barely tell it was a thumbs up at first. I feel a wink + thumbs up would have made it funnier as a 100% "yeah, we know you know" would gave it the perfect cap stone.
This is a time where I think changing a scene made it just as funny for Japanese players as English players, but that's just me
I definitely did not notice the fourth wall break until I watched it again because of how subtle it was, but it’s definitely hilarious when I see it again lol
Yeah I wish that Ichiban went "HAHA THIS IS THE ENGLISH DUB BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH ISN'T THAT WACKY" instead of this already cringeworthy edit made by localizers.
@@jotarokujo4641 Actually, the edit was done by the Japanese team at the request of the localizers. Plus, going about it that way would be way too on the nose.
@@Kono_Dio-Da So westerner parasites are getting to directly meddle with japanese games now? Jesus christ, how do we live in an age where western game devs put more effort into sabotaging games they never made, as opposed to making their OWN games? Wait, silly me, I know the answer; we didn't keep the lemmings out. Fuck my life.
@@jotarokujo4641 That's not what I said. I said that the localization team asked that to be put in for the Englush Dub version of the game as a bit of meta humor. Playing the Japanese version, or even the English Version with the Japanese Audio, removes this animation from the scene
Thank goodness they made a 4th wall break with Ichiban to tell players that the dub version is indeed an ironic joke, otherwise the scene would be weird.
Funny that the Japanese guy speaking English is in Katakana in the subs
Oh yeah😂
Cause it’s basically that lol, it’s a part of the joke of him not being able to speak fluent perfect English, so it’s displayed in katakana
@@icannotthinkofaname6248 which is mostly used to write foreign words (katakana) and is also the easiest system to learn if you're studying japanese.
"GOOO STLAITO
DEN TURN RAITO
GOGOGOGO
GO YOU ARE WAY"
BEREEBU YUASERUF
Aw... I would have appreciated the meta-humor of the English voice track having the guy speak Japanese...
EDIT: It might not be Japanese in the English voice track but when Ichiban looks at the camera after learning he's speaking in English, that is serious meta-humor
Should've been in Latin.
I also love how in the Japanese version he speaks properly but he overly announciates everything in the English version as if he isnt familiar with the language because him and ichiban are speaking the same language to us. the guy who directed this scene was on point
Ichiban speaking English:
"oh sh!t , it's English"
That's kinda relatable. I feel like whenever a non native english speaker is asked something in English, they'll go "oh shit it's English" in their head as they're trying to remember the useful direction related phrases lol 😂 in English, too, because you've already clicked the language button, right.
@@Pavlinka__ well... I can't say ur wrong , but ... Maybe it's just me but I don't have that much of a problem like that . I'm Russian tho)
Oh, adachi's there. Guess this was before he went to the sticks
When I got to this substory I was wondering why the hell was this dude speaking perfect english to a random japanese man, did he expect him to just know english?
Americans literally do that haha, its a whole thing of tourists to get frustrated in other countries when nobody speaks their language
Thing is... they kinda do!!! I lived in Kyoto for a while, would spend all day brushing up on my Japanese, go out ready to test it on the neighbours aaaaaand .... everyone I met would talk to me in English!
@@nathangould9549
literally all tourist from all corners of the world who come visiting my country speaks english and expect us to understand it, I became unofficial ambassador because I can understand English. And not just american. Recently, a french tourist tries to speak English to me, previously before that is Korean girl. Before that is english guy, nice guy that.
But holy heck, the one time the American come with their military ship. The thing was gigantic as fuck...not like anything I have seen in the movie...well, it was the first irl time i actually witness the thing...
Honestly I'd love if Ichiban muttered something under his breath to make light of the situation in the English dub
Wait, I'm speaking English. Why can I suddenly not understand him?
I commented on another comparison video that they should've had Ichi's text box be in Japanese to emphasize that he still technically is speaking Japanese, I think it would've been a nice touch.
That would be a fun bit, but do remember that subtitles do have other purposes than just translating languages. Like I don't think a deaf dude's gonna find that bit *aaaas* funny. lol
"Oh shit, its English" - in English
"Oh shit... It's English!"
1:37 👀
Now THAT's how you localize!
Bro, the slow zoom in is amazing
"I invented this whole thing" You invented shit
I expected they were going to give him an hard accent to understand like Scottish, Irish or Australian.
Irish is the absolute worst accent and thats a fact
@@abovethelaw4417 As an Irish person, can confirm (I don't know what they're saying half the time)
Australian isn't that bad unless a full on dropkick is speaking
@@mchicken6390 well you gotta factor in terminology too. If this were about food instead of directions, imagine the foreign dude is br*t*sh, wanting a biscuit, and so ichiban hands him a biscuit and the dude asks where the chocolate chips are or something
@@abovethelaw4417Nope it's the british accent that sounds the worst
shoulda had him speak german or somethin
"Könnten Sie mir bitte verraten, wie ich zum Bahnhof komme?" (assuming he means the train station)
This was pretty funny on English. I’m not about to go back to the pause menu just for this though! Thanks for the upload!!
This and the pokemon reference look to the camera got good laughs out of me.
1:40 This is Hawaii anime scene in Persona 5 with Ryuji, but in reverse!
I feel like this dub will be amazing
- spends precious time and manpower forcing Sega Japan to insert little _wink wink nudge nudge haha ironic_ animation
- "The Japanese people don't know about the slow head turn thing we have to teach them!"
- can't see half of it because of the textbox
Good job! Back to subs.
Soy pog moment
Japanese: Talk Fluent English.
English Dub: Being Meta by talk like Japanese trying speak 'Engrish'.
This is literally a Big Train sketch.
I love how this whole mission resolved itself lol
"can you tell me how to go to the station"
"I am not interesting"
*OK now WHAT THE FUCK*
Too subtle IMO. The dialog box blocks the thumbs-up.
I like both!!!
The English version of this scene is so much better lol
This makes him sound more like a caveman
eh. that isn't really a thumbs up as it is a arm flick
I agree, they should have made the animation a bit slower
The fact that he did this twice (once in Judgement) proves that he chooses not to learn Japanese
In the german version he speaks english and kasuga said its german. It even gets more confusing when you have japanese voices on😂
The uncanny valley I got from this guy is unbelievable. He's *WHITE*
Hahahaha im dying!
Honestly i expected him to speak in japanese instead
Why did they have to redub the foreigner man?
Could've used french or italian, hell, even russian could've worked. It's like Dora the expora in Russia is teaching english instead of spanish.
Literally the only reason to play this in english
The english tourist in the Japanese version sounded nicer.
In the english version, he just sounds like an asshole who just says "ugh, why can't you just speak english you idiot?"
Definitely like the Japanese version more. Like, if we had that voice clip, since he was already english in that version, it would be neat.
It's too bad the talents of the English VAs they lined up for the dub were wasted with poor direction and almost deliberately shoddy localizations of the text. "Aha... it's English..." gets turned into "Oh sh--! It's English!", and although Ichiban says "Hm?" a different way every single time in the original, he says "Huh?" the exact same way every time in English. They also made the foreigner dude sound like a calculatingly irritating buffoon because rewriting SEGA's story and characters for them is evidently their job now...
Tbh this feels kinda wasted, he just talks slower, and he's obviously not Japanese, he looks very stereotypically English, if they're gonna make the joke he can't speak English, they shoulda went all the way
The joke isnt "he can't speak english". They make him talk slower to fit the stereotype of how americans talk to people in a foreign country (maybe they can understand me if I talk slower). It just falls a little flat when they both speak english, which is why the focus is on the head-turn.
At first I was upset but I find the meta humor of him turning to the camera cuz they’re fully aware also very funny. Also, guy isn’t “obviously not Japanese” he’s a recolored Japanese model. So he isn’t stereotypically English
@@awesomebrand6122 Also to add the Brits tend to do that too, it's a common trope for English speakers
First
That's why Jojo is better since every characters has japanese speaking
There are English dubs for JoJo as well.
who tf are the nerds ruining the second clip tf
Pretty sure the dude on the left is one of the people on the English localization team 😐
Seriously, this substory in ENG dub made me lose my brain cells.
Oh, look at those cringy ass masks. XD
The English the guy sounds so stereotypical and annoying. Japanese has it way better.
English overvoice for japanese games should be banned and everyone who played it should be send to gulag. This is just horrible, how people can play with that?
You obviously didn't think when you posted this comment the world doesn't revolve around you they're are people who can't read because they either didn't learn or they have dyslexia so that wouldn't be fair to leave them out also you have the option to change the language