Retro Hungarian First Class Experience!
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Up this week, we take a look at one of MÁV-START's retro InterCity First Class coaches!
Date of Travel: September 2021
Class of Travel: First Class
Rolling Stock: Bombardier Taxx with Various
Type of Service: InterCity
Train Number: IC562
Origin: Budapest-Keleti, Hungary
Destination: Füzesabony, Hungary
Cost of Ticket: 3,181Ft (£6.95, $8.70, €8.10)
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Fellow Hungarian here. Since Hungarian language is amongst the 5 most difficult languages in terms of pronunciation and punctuation, I gotta say, your pronunciation of Füzesabony was very good.
Wish I get an opportunity to visit your beautiful country 👍🏻
@Sleeper Train Fan yes thank you, i am aware 👍🏼 🙏🏽
OK but he constantly misstresses Hungarian words. As a result, I failed to get his "Keleti" and "Nyugati". He obviously doesn't know that Hungarian words are always stressed on the 1st syllable and his stressing on the 2nd one makes it really difficult to catch. No reproach involved, though, I'm just stating a fact, not blaming him.
How well do you understand Serbian or romainian
@Sleeper Train Fan u fae Scotland
For older train enthusiasts Hungary is a retro paradise, full of memories of German UIC stock in the 70,s/80,s. The livery looks very smart, I could almost imagine a powerful steam loco on the front. The thing is these retro looking trains still do the job and look nicely fitted out to modern requirements. Hungary is a lovely country too with nice friendly people everywhere, well worth a visit.
I have always loved the Hungarian jingles before PA announcements. They put me in a good mood, even if the announcement is that the train is delayed by several hours.
Correction: several dozen hours
There are new IC+ 1. and premium coaches on some IC-trains, and plans are on the way to replace those old V43 locomotives with 115 new Siemens Vectrons.
Wow, they have really cleaned up Budapest Keleti Station since I rode into town from Vienna via train in 2015....it was in a word..."frightening" back then. We did meet some nice Hungarian boys who had been to the US and dropped everything they were doing to tour us around Budapest for two days....making our visit to Budapest wonderful!!!!
A retro train in Hungary, nice! It even features wifi! That is more than any train in Belgium!
Sometimes, Dylan, it's nice to go back in time. With all the gadgets and bright lights of modern state of the art trains, there is something rather enjoyable and comforting in the older stock. Couple that together with the very cheap prices of fares This was just lovely apart from the weather. Cheers, Bob
IMO Mav-Start gives a very good price to value ratio compared to other railway operators and bus companies.
From my experience travelling on the Hungarian Railways between Budapest and Subotica in Serbia a little over 10 years ago, I can see a vast improvement.
The Hungarian offer was in turn much better than that offered by the Serbian Railways in the other direction - I believe the only other place I have seen the tracks passing below from the toilet bowl was on a heritage railway running pre-war stock!
As you noticed, the price of a First Class ticket wasn't that much more, but for me, even though the experience was hardly first class, it was well worth it for having a carriage with hardly anyone in it when the rest of the train was packed!
Indeed, a blast-from-the-past retro train ride. Always love travelling on these old Eastern Europe 'local InterCity' services. Thanks Dylan.
They introduced now new IC plus carriages with premium class and a small bistro! I love that retro style trains.
I wish you could post this videos every day but i know it is impossible... Thank you for allowing me and my friends to virtually experience travel. We cant afford it atm since it is a bit messy situation we all are in some form of crisis :) It will be ok in like few months but it was hell for the past year. Thank you once again for the content!
Really enjoyed this Dylan
Really loving the voice over feature man it is so detailed. That newer coach was something else though very modern but the older coaches are OK too
These are the coaches that we call 2G IC, abbreviated for second generation IC coach
Originally they are coaches of the Poznan factory, modernized in the Dunakeszi Járműjavító, hence the DVJ plaque on the stairs
In addition there is a bistro-business coach provided on some of these services
I lived in eastern Hungary (Miskolc) for about 9 months and used this route quite frequently to head to Budapest, so its pretty cool to see it on your channel. Though that 1st class is actually quite modern compared to some of the older inter-city stock. I recommend a trip along Lake Balaton from Deli to Keszthely for the thermal pools at Heviz. Some pretty scenic areas too along the west shore, castles, viewing towers and those ancient Soviet 'Pacers'
The haunted Minion Hotel returns 👻
Great short trip. The variations of car in this train looks cool, mixing between classic and modernity
Great video, really liked it, I enjoy the retro feeling.
Planning to do a trip report as well in a month.
Thanks Dylan,
Cheers
As always, a great video.
Great review Dylan. Keleti station is fantastic! Last time I was in Buda I got a train from one of the other stations (Nugati?) that was going to Bratislava on an evening train. Really comfy 1st class journey in a big spacious saloon just like that, and i think we got some food and drinks too. All was going well until about 10 mins from the destination when there was a massive flash outside, a horrendous banging along the roof and we screeched to a halt. Turns out the arm had been ripped off the locomotive so we were stuck without power and apparently fused the rest of the lines too. Took about 3 hours to do the last 2 km or so. Locals were just getting out and walking the rest of the way with their stuff but I wasn't keen.
That's the funniest pronounciation of ÖBB I have ever had the pleasure of hearing
Dylan is very knowledgeable on specific dates and technical data. Well done.
Please speak a little slower as it gets blurred if noe...thanks...
Those Hungarian trains are very massive. Very massive trains in Hungary.
I live in Hungary and this was the first train I rode in first class.
It's interesting to note that information in most European stations you have visited is displayed in the important languages (obviously the 'home' language as well as) English and German. It seems the only place they use French (outside of France) is in Belgium and Monaco.
Switzerland obviously uses french along with German and Englush too. I also saw some french displays in Italy near the French border.
French is one of the official languages of Belgium as Belgium is trilingual. Flemish (Dutch) for the northern half of the country, French for the southern half of the country and in a small zone near Germany German is the official language.
Hungary uses german because Austria had quite a huge influence on the country (you know the whhole austria-hungary thing), if you visit older building, the exit and entrance will be also in german instead of english
Boa tarde Dylans lindo trem gostei 👍 trem da Europa de passageiros bom
great train video i love the interia and the journey itself i look forwood to the next one
Railjet Also goes to Frankfurt International airport via Hauptstrecke München Augsburg trains 63/66 from Budapest Keleti. For freight services ÖBB Rail Cargo runs them since ÖBB MAV Cargo in 2010-2012 now called ÖBB Rail Cargo Hungary. In some cases you will find ÖBB Rail Cargo Hungary locomotives inside Köln Hbf or Aachen Hbf. MAV 480 equals Germany DB BR185.2. Apee coaches should have a builder plate That says East Germany VEB Bautzen Because Comecon regulations will prohibit Hungary For making their own railway carriages then export them outside of Hungary.
Thanks! As usual, pleasant to watch. My compliments. I traveled by train fairly extensively in Hungary and I have no complaints, except the absence of catering. Yes, most of the equipment was dated, but functioned well. No springs through the seats. High speed does not exist, but as the trip was comfortable enough, I included it in my planning. I hope they changed the tickets. I once traveled with 8 EU workers from Budapest Deli (south) to Pécs and the paper strip I got was over 2 meters long. Staff on board and in the stations were friendly, especially if you know some basic Hungarian. What bothered me in this video, and in more videos, was the strange pronunciation of names. They sounded like funny English words, not Hungarian at all.
I’ve travelled quite a bit in Central/Eastern Europe and I can say that Hungarian trains are one of the most nostalgic. When I went to go and visit family, I was expecting one of those really nice intercity trains that they have in Poland. Nope! It was a 40 odd year old train, seats as hard as anything. But I just loved the journey!
Try the balkans for trains
Well - now think why. Most of the Polish trains are somehow supported from the EU funds (at least were). And think why in Hungary (and now also in Poland) they don't have the flow of the EU money. Think who rules the countries. Here is the answer to the huge lack of funds.
Great trip report
The colorful Square Design on the Seats were pretty Posh.
Not bad from what I saw, and whilst the coaches could have been a bit more modern, they're still functional. Also, I prefer the older rolling stock, because the newer rolling stock is more likely to block out mobile phone and other signals - not idea if your train either (a) has no Wi-Fi fitted, or (b) the Wi-Fi is so slow that you can't do anything with it.
Also, that price is pretty amaing, especially 1st class. For example, my normal commute, which only takes 30 minutes, costs £25.80 return, and that's in standard class!
Thanks for another great video Dylan. My son Luke loves watching your chanel! He's 4 on Thursday, any chance of a birthday shout for him?
Happy birthday Luke! Hope you have a great day 😁
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Superb
We are already waiting for a train Helsinki - Paris through Warsaw. By Rail baltic, of course.
It would be great if you could show a few areas of the towns/cities you travel to that are not major tourist destinations. Thx.
Thank´s for a new interesting film, just curious to know which way the train went on the rest of the trip to Nyugati.
Most probably through Miskolc-Tokaj-Nyiregyháza-Debrecen and Szolnok
You call them retro, we call them finally 21st century
Quite often you run into the non-refurbidhes coaches and you fly back in time several decades
Exactly. Besides the brand new green ones around Budapest, these feel pretty modern. As a tourist I actually prefer the real retro rides to the retro train stations where you can still walk over the tracks. Oh and the Bzmots, that is propper retro.
A nice ride on a rainy day on an almost empty train. Ordinarily I'd mark them down for not serving food in First Class, but at that price who could complain?
t5hank you
Dated
4:13 That reminds me of the Renfe's S-253 locomotives
11:16 €8.10? That's what I call a cheap journey!
In fact, It's €0.90 cheaper than the Ouigo España's most advanced ticket prices!
Or the DB locos
About the same as a commuter train from Nottingham to Derby!
@@andrewwilson6240 If you're on the Midland Mainline, goo luck getting anywhere at all for the prices mentioned in the video. My journey from Wellingborough to Leicester (return) is £25.80 without a railcard...
They are same Bombardier product, the Renfe 253 and the Hungarian 480. They just run in different voltages and current.
Was your host named Gru?
One of the things I have noticed is that the dominance of EMUs/DMUs seems uncommon in many of these videos. A similar journey in the UK would likely be a 317, 323 or 350, but definitely not loco hauled.
I wish we still had various diesel or electric locomotives, with various coaches to go with them. Sadly, most of the Mk3s have been scrapped, and chances are, the Mk4s will go that way too, because there's not many loco services anymore, they're all either DMUs or EMUs.
it seems strange being in a train and the conductor is speaking hungarian
good vid btw
Bizarre how standard class looks more modern than the first class seats
How about visiting some of the countries of the former Yugoslavia and reviewing some of the trains? Are you skirting them on purpose?
Yeah, might do at some point.
And of course, there was an M41 hauled passenger train at Füzesabony. I've even seen one that was a single M41 and an old cab-car when I was there.
Retro? It's not retro the second generation IC cars (Apee 10-44, earlier: Ap 10-67 and second class version is Bpee 20-44, earlier: Bp 20-67), these are maybe 25 years old, it's will be in circulation, although it can be not in IC later, but also fast trains. The locomotive (3:27 - 4:07), than it's call "Szili" (it's have got silicon diode rectifier, not call these machine are "Szilárd", Szilárd is hungarian man name, woman's version is "Szilárda".) are retro, because they are between 50 and 60 years old. Serial numbers the various versions: 430 /GYSEV, in Sopron/ 431/than you see, the basic design, maybe going to the "trash bin" in Sátoraljaújhely, if come the Siemens Vectron's here./, 432 /Is the Pendulum train locomotive, the full rake is call Postal (the car's same color design about the part of ex postal service cars) or call Swallow pendulum train/, 433 /Is the Pendulum locomotive to, but make in around the turn of the millennium, because came form Germany 300 pieces Halberstadter car.
The Bombardier TRAXX (Plate number is 002, I mean: H-START 91 55 0480 002-9), which then pulled the train, changed design in June 2022 from praying mantis to the writer, for who's name is Áron Tamási yet.
You didn't pop into Tesco's then
There's one accross rhe road
Trains Station 🚉
I dare you to take the 17:00 Kyiv to Przemysl train. Its character building.
What about the war in Ukraine
@@heidirabenau511 What war? I was there seven days. Perhaps it was hiding.....
@@heidirabenau511 there's a daily night train to Kiev from Budapest (and Vienna)
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Keep your bloody feet off the table!
First
Most Hungarian Trains are rubbish and outdated but this train make a great exception
Excellent review as always Dylan. I'm so glad I found something on RUclips to binge-watch
Thanks!
2:58 That jingle gives me nostalgia vibes, and Fernweh.
I've been in Budapest (nearby Ferihegy train station)for last 4 days and well - view of V43 was pretty common(all IC services and also some cargo trains were operated by them - at least near Ferihegy). Absolutely love these locos - very impressive that they still perform after all those years of service. Great vid as always :-)
why do i always look forward to the loo review most, Dylan ?
One time when I was like 8 or so I was returning from a 'holiday' on Lake Balaton with my mother. She had one of her acquaintances take us up to Komárom, where we stayed the night, and took a train down to Keleti where we would have changed to one heading to Miskolc (it's the next big and important station after Füzesabony), EXCEPT our train from Komárom was late. We had to run from one side of the station to the other with our luggage, apparently losing a pair of slippers along the way. In the end, the train we took was 2 minutes late because of us, but we made it aboard thanks to the kindness of one of the conductors.
The IC trains between Keleti and Nyugati are the result of the following: after the Treaty of Trianon, a secondary line connecting two essential main lines that were then halfed by the borders was upgraded to a mainline, thus creating a loop, made up of lines 80 via the north and 100 via the south to Tokaj, interchanging with secondary lines along the way at major junction stations such as Füzesabony.
The trains bound fpr Romania and Bucharest also leaves from Keleti track 1
I saw your NS video: if you like Keleti, you could try The Hague HS, Amsterdam CS, Haarlem and Groningen. All beautiful classical stations.
Great video as always! In terms of on-board catering and first-class service, there's quite a bit of improvement ever since! A lot of these Budapest-Keleti - Budapest-Nyugati IC trains are now equipped with a brand new multifunctional 1st class carriage which includes regular 1st class, a bistro/bar section and some Business Class seats even!
As you'd imagine, Business Class is still quite affordable for Western European standards, so you'll definitely have to pay another visit to check them out!
Why are these trains running without a reasonal number of travellers? Not to say that the train is almost empty?
11:13 Back in the day, my cousin used to take the bus instead of the train, which was even cheaper. The train fare is not that cheap, compared to the local wages. But that also is true for Germany. ;-)
Take a look at the IC+ 1st class carriages
I prefer subtitles :/
great opening shot!
Bob, Kevin and Stuart must be there 😂
What at is the logo on the train's engine at 8:54? It looks very eucharistic with a chalice and host. Is it a Christian symbol, or am I imagining it?
It was probably decorated for the global eucharistic congress held earlier in Budapest
IMO you really are the No1 UK RUclipsr when it comes to trains....
Dylan, I enjoyed seeing Keleti train station again after my August 2019 summer trip to Budapest. I always like a nice summer rainy day in Europe. The first class seating looked dirty. I am going to buy a head rest cover to protect my head from other people's dirty hair folicles. Eeww! The 2nd class seating looked more enjoyable. I'd of preferred 2nd class. You're right about buying you own food outside of the train station. I bought a large coffee and danish from McDonald's across the street from Keleti. Nice nostalgic video. Thanks for taking me back to Budapest!
Wow, that was fast, thank you.
Well, the station and especially platforms look like they need renovation. But in my opinion I can see a huge lack of the EU funds here - and the question is: Is it because of the rather authoritarian Hungarian government?
1h around Budapest, most stations are fully renovated. Like so many parts in Hungary, Budapest is near unrecognizable some places. Further away you can/must still walk over the tracks and have only 1 departure info panel. Has its charm.
The capital and the central region are above EU average, so no funding from cohesion fund is available here and the government can't be arsed to put additional funding on top of EU funds