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  • Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
  • The Rolex Submariner is the worst dive watch. The Rolex Datejust is the perfect watch for a job interview. Tudor’s snowflake hands are ugly. Richard Mille will make you popular with the ladies. The Calatrava is the ultimate dress watch. 34mm Rolex watches are the most underrated.
    These are all opinions we USED to believe. For this special edition of our Plus or Minus debate show, we’re reconsidering some previously held opinions. People learn, people grow, and minds change.
    This is Plus or Minus: The Horological Debate Show about the BEST and WORST of the Watch World. We're going head-to-head and saying everything you wish people would say about the watches we love and hate.
    Balazs Ferenczi (@ferenczibazs)
    Co-Host of the Fratello On-Air Podcast
    Thomas Hendricks (@je_tomm)
    Host of the Chrono24 RUclips Channel
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Комментарии • 39

  • @tuberaider
    @tuberaider 18 дней назад +6

    I understand where he is coming from. Rolex really hasnt been making tool watches ever since they discovered the margin was in precious metals and polishing. Their last real tool watch was the 5 digit preceramic sub, the 14060M. Yes, it is a 10k diver, so could I take it for light diving as long as the gaskets are in good condition? Sure. Would it be my first choice for serious diving instead of a dive computer... Hmm, maybe not?

  • @sibrayJP
    @sibrayJP 16 дней назад +2

    I like the potential for sequels. You do the anticipation better than Disney. Next video, you apologize to Cartier because you understand it is a great watch for many actual watermen.

  • @GrumblingForesight
    @GrumblingForesight 18 дней назад +7

    This series never dissapoints!

  • @cgarcia3964
    @cgarcia3964 16 дней назад +1

    😂😂 The purpose of the 911 Porsche is racing , 99% never touch a racing track
    You are buying quality

  • @osobad1127
    @osobad1127 18 дней назад +3

    When your boss tells you that your video pissed a lot of ppl off 😂

  • @nickjanssen
    @nickjanssen 14 дней назад

    Good video, thanks for sharing. What I do find unfortunate is that you tone down your previously stated opinions to keep your followers satisfied.

  • @markikn3183
    @markikn3183 18 дней назад +3

    Im enjoying this new format, Tom. It gives you the platform to show your knowledge and the conversations are sharp and witty. Theo & Harris for adults

  • @watchhunter
    @watchhunter 15 дней назад +1

    That´s why you don´t get tattooed.

  • @dbsurtanicolorsnscent386
    @dbsurtanicolorsnscent386 16 дней назад

    breitling make the best dive watches. multiple models

  • @anonymousonlineuser6543
    @anonymousonlineuser6543 16 дней назад

    These series should be renamed to: ''Balash and Goulash'', guess who is who.

  • @MM-xm7fr
    @MM-xm7fr 18 дней назад

    this discussions never make me boring 🙂 I agree that maybe 0,1% of people will dive with sub... and maybe 5% will go to the sea with them on the wrist 🙂 guys all the best... I am keen to see another video with you guys...🙂

  • @felipesancho7259
    @felipesancho7259 17 дней назад

    Balazs, how cool ca you be!!!!??

  • @dscotp185
    @dscotp185 18 дней назад +2

    Enjoyable video, as always. You guys have great chemistry together. Keep up the great work. 👍

  • @derekbrettell8121
    @derekbrettell8121 18 дней назад +2

    I think a more affordable 3 watch collection is:
    Speedmaster
    Submariner
    Reverso
    I agree though, most people don't wear dress watches anymore. You'd be better off getting a datejust which is more versatile or something like that

    • @Nudel-nc1cp
      @Nudel-nc1cp 18 дней назад +1

      That's not really affordable to be honest 😅
      This is My take of perfect 3 watch collection:
      g-shock 5600 (reliable everyday beater and substitute to chrongraph)
      Orient Bambino v4 (elegant, low key, dressy watch)
      for a diver I would choose some microbrand like titanium Zelos Hammerhead :)

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H 17 дней назад

      Thats still close to/over 10.000 usd. 😂 affordable to who?

    • @derekbrettell8121
      @derekbrettell8121 17 дней назад

      Ok it's not affordable but it's more achievable than a Patek Calatrava.

  • @davidr2802
    @davidr2802 18 дней назад +2

    "It's absolutely gorgeous but I have never seen one in the wild." Spoken like a true online watch seller!

  • @sailgears
    @sailgears 18 дней назад

    only idiots can pay such a money for a just 3 hands watch as Rolex ! no complication, no personality, no flash…nothing ! and this Nothing is a Rolex :)

  • @Kogemate
    @Kogemate 18 дней назад

    8:42 If you see the infrastructure that rolex is currently building in Romandie, we can easily imagine that they are planning to produce volume for the mass and to increase the quality and volume of more exclusive models (enameling, stones, metiers d'art, etc). As an ex. they recently opened manufacturing spaces dedicated to dials... This long play will solve many current issues.

  • @adams733
    @adams733 18 дней назад

    I love these chats. More please.

  • @marklevites9053
    @marklevites9053 16 дней назад

    Great video! Lots of fun)))

  • @robertsullivan4773
    @robertsullivan4773 18 дней назад +2

    Your right about not wearing a watch much better than the interviewer.

  • @joshn.5625
    @joshn.5625 17 дней назад +2

    The Tudor snowflake hand is absolutely hideous. Would never buy one as a result. Possible exception is the Pelagos due to the square dial indices.

    • @Chrono24Official
      @Chrono24Official  17 дней назад

      Agreed. It can look a little out of place with circular hour markers, but I’ve grown to love it on the Pelagos. It’s got a charming, 8-bit effect going on.

    • @VectorSearch
      @VectorSearch 15 дней назад +1

      Agree. I hate the snowflake except when paired with square indices. Currently thinking about getting the black fxd but kind of torn with the seaQ 39.5.

    • @joshn.5625
      @joshn.5625 15 дней назад

      @@VectorSearch Tough choice! I think the GO is more “special” but I don’t find the design all that inspiring (Arabic numerals on a dive watch don’t really speak to me). The FXD is very cool but tool-ish and not all that versatile. If I was looking in that price range I’d probably go with an SLA017 or the No Time To Die Seamaster.

    • @VectorSearch
      @VectorSearch 15 дней назад

      @@joshn.5625 yes the NTTD was also on my mind and I would purchase especially because it has no date and I love that. But the skeleton hands I’m not a big fan of. If Omega brought back the sword hands on their divers I would be all over it! The FXD would be my beater and wear it to Hawaii watch. As for the SLA017 are they hard to come by? I’m hesitant to spend that much on a Seiko diver. I’ve heard accuracy issues with it as well?

    • @joshn.5625
      @joshn.5625 15 дней назад

      @@VectorSearch I agree on the Seamaster hands too! I guess nobody makes the perfect watch. Yes Seiko is known for quality control issues, though I don’t know if it’s prevalent in their higher range models. There are a number of SLA017’s on Watchrecon now ranging from $2500 - $3500

  • @benmoore7946
    @benmoore7946 18 дней назад +2

    Here's why it's called a SNOWFLAKE hand: it looks liek the *tip* of one of the six branches of a snowflake ❄

  • @fabulousfab5287
    @fabulousfab5287 17 дней назад

    I have a couple of dive watches, the one with the best legibility at 40 feet is the Panerai! So, point proven wrong..

  • @Watchthisspace-zz1hc
    @Watchthisspace-zz1hc 17 дней назад +1

    Surely every dive watch is the worst diver. How many people ever wear a watch for diving?

  • @justingalore123
    @justingalore123 15 дней назад

    The snowflake is literally the best handset! So cool and legible! Stick hands are awful.

  • @axelr9378
    @axelr9378 18 дней назад +1

    It seems those regrets are coming from the heat you received.
    Well, it's ok to have your own opinion but please don't be wokes like everyone else regarding other topic. I know it's trendy in the US but freedom is not about having the same opinion as everyone. Freedom is not a cult.

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H 17 дней назад

      Regrets? 😂 buddy they could care less about negative comments. The youtube algorithm sees a comment as a comment, negative or not.