@@connorobeirne934 a theory is based on observable facts, the video surmises every "fact" follow by "but what if" without confirming a single thing. His is a hypothesis in light of unconfirmed "facts".
@@orangecitrus8056 Reverse evidence, actually. Odin's father literally sealed the reality stone away in a pocket dimension. You don't need anything else to be able to tell that this idea holds no water.
@@SAITEJA-tr8cxThanos literally waited for Odin to die before making his big move. Matter of fact Thanos waited for Odin, The Ancient One, and Ego to be completely out of the picture before finally showing up in person in Infinity War.
You may have missed the part where the Sorcerer Supreme is the keeper of the Time stone, and the Reality stone was locked away by Odin's father deep within the earth.
I mean,he might have not gotten all the stones,and could have given the time stone to agamotto (in the comics they were teammates once,might have also been the case in the MCU after Odin's conquering days were over)while the reality stone would have been sealed by his father in fear of Odin's or anyone else's ambition causing ruin with it
Odin was a pre human civilisation being. There was no time stone keeper atleast until 7000 years ago, like in eternals. Odin is literally miliions of years old.
Some other theories say that odin got all stones except the soul stone. When he went to get the soul stone, he learned that he has to sacrifice someone he loved, means he had to sacrifice hela. That might have changed his heart. But hela didn't know this, so she went against him and he imprisoned her.
It's possible but unless the space stone took red a Skull back in time and on vormir it's unlikely because hela and Odin search for the stones would've been before the events of captain America the first avenger were the space stone took red Skull to vormir were he was a guide to all that seek the soul stone and if that's not the case then how would he have known he needed to Sacrafice someone for the stone unless at some point the soul stone was place on vormir and if so when so. The only way i can see this being true is if odin found it somewhere else and he him self hid it there. It's possible but more info is needed
@@aaronlogue6281 I was going to comment some other things on other posts, some people beat me to it though. It also makes no sense that he would put two stones on Earth, nor put the Power Stone of all things on Morag, instead of someplace it would be secure like his vault. He could have buried it under the vault so it would have never been found and no one would have ever known. The scepter also makes no sense.
If you pay close attention to it in Thor ragnarok you can see that it was right handed, but if you rewatch infinity war you can see that it is on thanos’s left hand.
And if you pay even more attention, you would have noticed that they aren't even the same gloves. Remember the scene where Thor asked the last Dwarven smith to make Stormbreaker? The Dwarf told Thor about how he made the left handed gauntlet for Thanos.
@@cosmicgigachad_ There is a guy who talked about neat little details in the MCU and every short he did where he talked about Tony Stark ended with "Because Tony learns from his mistakes" and he ended his shorts like that because Tony learns from his mistakes.
@@Ice_cube999nah you never seen the fandom of female fictional Characters specialy tall female fictional character full simps and wants to get dominated people
Hmmm. I'd be concerned Anthony Hopkins is too old to put in the physicality necessary unless they just CG his face on a stunt double ala Count Dooku from Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Otherwise they'd have to go with younger actors in which case they'd have to do the same with Hela and I dunno... it has potential but might be weird...
I’d like to see Thanos raising his kids. Show me that he loved Gamora, don’t just tell me. Would have made for the perfect money grab hour long special instead of Captain Marvek which had no bearing on End Game
Only problem I see with this logic is that the Reality Stone(Aether) was in the possession of the Dark Elves during Odin's father Bor's lifetime and hidden away on a secret planet before his death. If Odin sought the Reality Stone out to wield all of the Infinity Stones it would make for a wildly large plot hole that his father let him know this secret location.
Ok, Hear me out: the lore around the Stones' origins is mostly Odin lying to us and he hid them to prevent Ragnarok. In Nordic lore, Odin "sacrifices himself to himself" by hanging from Yggdrasil (the World Tree) to gain the knowledge of "the Runes" which are often represented as symbols (Elder Futhark) engraved on STONES that granted the wielder unimaginable power over reality. He does this, and plucks out his own eye and wanders the known world (in MCU, this would translate to "known universe"), to find the means of foreseeing and preventing Ragnarok (i.e. the Runes aka Infinity Stones). We might have "stories" of where the Stones (Runes) were kept, but remember that Odin is often associated with the Rune "Ansuz" for its association with the magic that comes from communication. Odin was a known story-teller, and liar. Like Socrates, Odin was not particularly trusted among men for his ability to weave tales and distort reality through speech (this is without the Runes, the dude was just great at telling tall-tales). So, I submit that almost everything we are told about the Stones is a lie- and actually told to us by Odin himself. Much of what you see on-screen in the MCU is real (or real illusions, like in Spider-Man: Homecoming), except the parts about the origins of the Stones themselves, which are a fabrication from Odin and perhaps the only illusion in the MCU never to be revealed as such, crafted by the master of deception himself. Further, Odin collected the Stones for the same reason he collected the Runes in Nordic lore: to prevent Ragnarok. The same outcome even occurs: in trying to prevent Ragnarok, Odin inadvertently causes it. In the lore, it is Odin and his two brothers who create the 9 (-ish) Realms. Very possible that they used the Stones for this purpose but this would be a reversal of the lore compared to the MCU; Odin didn't have the Runes/Stones when creating the Realms in the lore. But the MCU mashes stuff up and was written by an AI so I digress. P.S. Do we know how Odin lost his eye in the MCU? Because in the lore he sacrificed it on his quest for the Runes, in order to gain wisdom from Mimir's Well. If it's left ambiguous, then it's def a reference to his quest to find the Runes which further supports my thesis.
@@GMO_meme_cornerDisney isnt the issue, I think people forget that marvel isnt star wars, from Iron Man 1 disney was at the helm. The movies quality being rundown isnt just disney, its bad writers and rushed projects. If Disney takes the time to let the projects breathe, and hires better writers the quality will increase IE Loki Season 2
This is not really possible, because before Odin's conquest of the nine realms the aether a.k.a the reality stone was already lost courtesy to Odin's father Bor, when he hid it away from the dark elves
very true thats why this short vid really doesnt make any sense and just a wishful thinking, not even in the comics was it ever shown that odin had the power to take one celestial at all. odin force is strong but not enough to take down a celestial much more a celestial with a infinity stone
Odin tried to get them all but didn’t because he didn’t want to sacrifice a soul for the Soul Stone and didn’t know where the Reality Stone was. This video state he had them all but his info is wrong. Odin only had two of the stones and gave one of them to The Collector. Maker of this video is giving false info. You need them all and Odin didn’t have them all.
Actually it would make sense. Odin in Norse mythology killed Ymir, who basically created all of the nine realms except midgard, and then tore a piece of Ymir's dead flesh and turned it's primordial essence into Midgard. Now while marvel is known for not being accurate in the slightest to mythology they do sometimes actually get some stuff accurate, so Odin killing gods and using the stones could be a possibility
Odin also never had the Aether. Also Odin would have probably kept the Power Stone where he could keep an eye on it since it is so destructive. There is no reason why he would specifically put two infinity Stones on Earth, since that's the reason why they gave the Aether to the Collector, so there's not two in one location.
It is confirmed that Celestials are more powerful than Odin and if they are already more powerful than him there is no way he can beat one wielding the POWER STONE
@@ItalianStallion9790 the Time Stone has been with the Sorcerer Supreme’s for a long time. In Thor the Dark World Odin says that he has no idea where the Reality Stone was. He would’ve never sacrificed something he loved for the Soul Stone. The only Stones Odin would’ve had was the Space and Mind Stones but even then, the Celestial had the source of all power in the universe. Odin still stood no chance against it
If that gauntlet was real, Hela would have had it on her hand so damn fast. She was trying to conquer the 9 realms, if she had that easy if a win at her fingertips, it wouldn’t have been overlooked. There’s literally zero reason why you would ever think that was real.
@@Psychebane Did she know that the space stone was inside the Tesseract? If Odin was trying to hide the Infinity Stones to make them harder to obtain, and he imprisoned Hela as part of his way of trying to right his past, then I think it would make sense that she wouldn't necessarily know that as Odin presumably would not have told her or wanted her to know.
You remember Nidevallier? The star where all weapons of asguard are manufactured? Thanos went there to get another gauntlet made and then proceeded to cut off the hands of the dwarf who made it. How did its design came into being if Odin never had one made for himself? Odin has right hand gauntlet. Thanos has left one
@@achtungbaby91u26 OP might have meant that Odin imprisoned her to keep her around so that in the event where he might potentially decide to sacrifice her for the soul stone, he would be able to. It would be like keeping an animal in a cage for an animal sacrifice. The animal being kept in its cage is not currently being sacrificed, but it is being held captive so that when its owner decides to sacrifice it later, the animal is there for them to do so.
It was confirmed it was fake before thor ragnarock, and then Hella pushed it over saying it was a fake, and thats the joke. Everybody talked about it since the first thor movie because you could see it there. But when marvel changed plans with thanos and the story, mavel said it was fake to fix the plot of whyOdin had it there, and thats why/how we got this amazing joke Hella saying it's fake.
Did you know this happened, here is my theory. While I'm not saying what you said is completely devoid of merit, you said that this definitely happened, then just gave speculation. It also makes no sense why Odin would hide two infinity stones on Earth. Maybe he viewed it as such a primitive world, that he didn't think anyone would look there. But at the same time, he would have kept at least one of the Infinity Stones. You're also wrong because of the Aether, Odin never had it. It was lost after his father sealed it away, and it remained sealed until Jane found it.
Regarding how Steve Rogers/Captain America returned the six Infinity Stones at the conclusion of the _Endgame_ film, there’s an online FanFiction story entitled “The Infinity Stones Return: Captain America’s Final Adventure.” This story is written in the form of a heavily detailed plot-summary for an eight-episode mini-series. ¶ The first episode takes place before Captain America (hereafter called “Cap” for short) begins his journey, and shows Professor Hulk rebuilding the time machine and Scott Lang/Antman volunteering for the initial test run. This involves a return-trip to Clint Barton’s pre-snap home to put back the baseball glove that was taken during the original test-run. Afterward, Doctor Strange explains why the stones have been placed in the briefcase and reveals that the Tesseract, Orb, and Sceptre have been shrunken down to fit in Cap’s pockets and will be re-enlarged after he arrives in the past to re-contain their respective stones at the proper time. ¶ In the second episode, Cap visits the Ancient One in 2012 prior to the arrival of his earlier self in New York. There, she uses the combined power of the six stones in the briefcase to cast future-dated spells that will make the 2012-2014 timelines reset themselves once the heisted stones have been returned to their proper places. Afterwards, she transports to the roof of the New York sanctum where she gives Hulk the original version of the Time Stone after first putting on a performance-act of initial resistance and surprise to ensure he understands the importance of returning the stones afterward. She then reclaims the returned-version from Cap’s briefcase. ¶ In the third episode, the Ancient One continues to assist Cap by helping him recapture Loki and returning him into SHIELD custody along with the stolen 2012-Tesseract (after future-Tony and Scott have fled the scene of course). Afterwards, the re-enlarged Sceptre re-containing the Mind Stone is given back to the Hydra goons, thus triggering the first timeline-reboot spell which erases everyone’s memory of the wayward events. However, the final scene then reveals that since Loki misused the Space Stone’s power in the wayward timeline, a branch-timeline was nevertheless still created, thus requiring the TVA to intervene. ¶ In the fourth episode, Cap shoots forward to 2013 where he re-teams with the Ancient One for the journey to Asgard. There, they work together to neutralize Heimdall before putting the Reality Stone/Aether back into Jane Foster’s body and returning the enchanted hammer to a comically confused Thor. Afterward, the timeline is then likewise reset to erase everyone’s memories. ¶ The fifth episode has Cap shooting forward again to 2014 where he returns the re-enlarged Orb containing the Power Stone to the temple on Morag after he and the Ancient One first make a brief but necessary side-trip to delay Korath’s arrival and prevent his interference. The sixth episode then has Cap being sent to Vormir where, in order to return the Soul Stone, he must first contend with a temporarily freed Red Skull and a temporarily resurrected Natasha Romanoff. ¶ The start of the seventh episode then reveals that, with the two stones from 2014 returned, the timeline has also now been reset so that everyone’s memories have been erased and that exact duplicate/replacement versions of Thanos, Gamora, and Nebula have been created to take the place of their original counterparts who jumped forward to 2023. ¶ Before travelling back to 1970 and then further back to 1946 though, Cap first reveals to the Ancient One that Doctor Strange had previously placed a charmed spell over Cap’s aura so that no one in the past would be able to recognize who he really is unless he wants them to. Hence, Peggy would be able to see Cap in his true form when he returns to her whereas everyone else would see him as somebody different. This would then enable him to easily change his name and assume the identity of a former G.I. whose unit was rescued by Captain America during the war as per the reference in the _Winter Soldier_ film. This also then explains why the younger Cap didn't recognize his older self at Peggy's funeral during the _Civil War_ movie. ¶ In the last part of this seventh episode, Cap returns to 1970 and puts the re-enlarged Tesseract containing the Space Stone back in the vault, then proceeds up to Hank Pym’s lab to put back the four replenished vials of Pym Particles. Upon arriving in the lab however, he is unexpectedly intercepted by the TVA. The final episode then has Cap being recruited by the TVA to fight the Red Guardian in 1984 before being allowed to return to 1946 and live happily ever after. ¶ Hope you enjoy reading the story in full on the FanFiction website. Cheers!
I think he tried to collect them all, built asgard, gave Heimdall powers with the mind stone, but stopped as he realised it was wrong, and he didn't want to sacrifice his children for the mind stone, but Hela didn't care so Odin imprisoned her
there is roughly a 500-2000 year age difference between thor and hela and if my math is right there should not have been any overlap so there's no way Odin could have sacrificed any of his children plus if he hid the stone on vormir he wouldn't need to sacrifice anything to get it
@@brysonjames3816+ According to the latest canon (as the Asgardians in particular and magic as a whole concerning Deities specifically has been changed and retconned multiple times), Odin was in his likely in or near his prime something like 500,000 odd years ago when he battled Surtur. Consider that Odin's father Borr was in his Prime back when the universe had only recently had the concept of freaking LIGHT introduced to it as that's when the Dark Elves tried to use the next convergence (at most 5000 years after the introduction of light to the universe since convergences happen every 5000 years or so apparently) to try and return the universe to Darkness and the War with Asgard ensued. That would make Odin and Bor both LUDICROUSLY old. As we're talking about 2 being who, over the shared course of their lives, span from the dawn of light in the universe to present day. Think about that for a second.
We’ll see the thing is thanos already had the infinity gauntlet by the first avengers movie 💀 hella also found the real Tesseract and if the it hadn’t been broken yet then how did she get the stone 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
The soul stones law is eternal. It’s pretty well implied. Apart from the fact Odins dad hid the ether (reality stone) if the soul stones rules could just be changed, pretty sure hulk could have brought Natasha back considering he wielded them all. But yeah. The tesseract was once on Asgard. Also if he had all 6 I’m pretty sure they’d have conquered far more than 9 realms lol.
Instead of the garbage we get from Marvel we should get a Thor and Odin, father and son scene where Odin explains his story and "who he really was" to Thor in Thor movie ending.
They establish when and why Odin ends his conquest in the first Thor movie. He stopped after defeating the Frost Giants and “adopting” Loki. Hela is simply an additional, albeit omitted, layer on top of that. Chronologically, Hela and Odin would have had their falling out after Jotunheim was subjugated, at which point she was banished and Odin redecorated.
Why should that be the case? In comics Asgardians and Frost Giants are enemies. I think he has stopped his conquest and imprisoned Hella for some other reason. After some years down the line after Thor was born, there was another all-out war with Frost Giants for whatever reason, he defeated them and took Loki as his own, hoping this would end the generational conflict between them once Loki grows-up and takes his rightful place as the leader of frost giants (obviously he was wrong about that).
big flaw to this theory about odin getting the stones the reality stone was in a hidden vault and odin had no access to it and that stone was lost before odin was ever king and before hela was born
The gauntlet was specially forged to fit thanos. The gauntlet hadn't been forged yet so that gauntlet was fake and also failed writing since whoever created the fake gauntlet couldn't have known thanos would have one made
@@sarathchandhiran5660 There's multiple stories... In another, Knowhere was 1 of 2 celestial objects orbiting Battleworld and is the decapitated head of a celestial slain by god Emperor Doom.
the fact is oddin collected stones for some evil works but after thousand of years he realised ...and then he hide those stones by himself so taht no one can use it
@@crazysmartgaming except his father hid the ether. And Odin said he had no idea where it was. He might have even said it was destroyed. (Can’t remember).
@@Tronic_Rider-kl9cu pretty sure he’d mention it to Thor given it’s on earth “btw…the ether is here so…make sure no one fucks with it” lol. Especially given the up coming convergence. It’s also stated in infinity war no one has “ever had the might…neigh, the nobility to wield not one but two infinity stones” so… yeah. Sure it’s safe to say this theory’s wrong lol.
@@colinharris615It wasn't on Earth, only two stones were on Earth, the Time and Space Stones. Which makes no sense that Odin would hide two stones on Earth and not keep one, especially the Power Stone in his vault. Odin wouldn't have hidden it away on some random planet that's not connected to him. Vormir, sure, that could make sense, it's a dead planet away from everything and no one would ever go there.
Um it's fake cause it's on the wrong hand and while Odin did obtain the stones n used them he also threw them away after he saw his daughter Hella wanted them for herself for power so he got rid of them n imprison her
I think he can. The celestial did not seem like some unbeatable enteties and Odin was insanely powerful. The guardians defetaed one for instance. And there is a place build on the severed head of a celestial, someone had to have severed it.
In my opinion asguardians will beat any marvel characters simply since they are actual Norse gods. That's just to me though. In truth, these are simply the marvel versions of these gods and I just can't bring myself to accept that
@@mlgmeistros4278 The guardians were able to defeat not by their power but because Peter was also a half celestial(we don't even know if he was actually a celestial since he is extremely different from other Celestials and also in the Comics, he is just a planet that became conscious. Hence, Ego "the living planet") and they managed to bombard his brain.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 You do realise that Norse and other polytheistic gods/goddesses aren't omnipotent or extremely powerful? They range from beings with almost no powers to beings with a decent amount of powers but none are anything like the Monotheistic God and at the end of the day, they all have weaknesses and are getting their ass kicked every now and then.
I think when he placed the Soul Stone on Vormir, Odin enchanted in the same manner as he did Thor’s hammer: “Whosoever shall wield the Soul Stone, if they are willing to sacrifice the thing they love, shall possess the power of the Soul Stone.”
big flaw to this theory the reality stone was in a hidden vault and odin had no access to it and that stone was lost before odin was ever king and before hela was born
Something tells me Hella would NOT have casually so nonchalantly disregarded a fully complete infinity gauntlet. Also she helped in the war so she would be able to confirm the authenticity anyway right? and again i just can't see even her arrogant ass being stupid enough to undermine the ridiculous power that gauntlet has compared to her most powerful self i just cant see this theroy working, also technically this theroy falls apart when you consider the gauntlet was made for thanos in infinity war after Ragnarok where we first see the debut of the fake gauntlet, so its definitely a fake💯🗿
nah, impossible, although you think Odin and hela slayed the celestial for the stone, it was actually Null. Leader of the symbiotic army. Because he wanted to cull all good of the universe. 😂😂
I just couldn't believe he didnt keep the mind stone one ability of the mind stone that we dont see in the movies but is in an mcu comic explaining Thanos origins we learn you can use the mind stone to become all knowing know everything before it happens know every secret every piece of information the universe had to offer what advantage that would be to protect asgard and the nine realms
Wait I thought all his power being able to hold back hela went away when he died so wouldn't that make the magic holding back the soul stone disappear when he died?
No he didn’t it is just a theory cause if he did the eather would already be in stone form in Thor the dark world it would not be a liquid so this is a stupid theory
My personal theory was that Hela was what Odin sacrificed in order to get the Soul Stone. She's immune to death, so it had to be done by locking her away. For it to be a true sacrifice, she can't ever be retrieved by Odin, and so his death is what was required to release her. Sacrificing the one he was conquering the cosmos with gave him perspective, and he realized that seeking ultimate power wasn't worth it if it involved making those sacrifices, so he abandoned his conquest.
I was wondering the other day, why do we think hela is dead? If thor was able to live in outerspace and was near death, why wouldnt hela also be able to? Plus she had just got powered up by being at asgaurd.
I also see that the gauntlet infinity stone order is not like what we see in the mcu wehn thanos had it i stead its the comic book infinity gems order so its i cool little detail
Just because Odin theoretically could have obtained the infinity stones (which is only theoretical) that doesn't automatically mean he has the power to wield ALL of the infinity stones...
Hmm. So did he also infuse Wanda and Loki? Reality and time stones? Because they both have the power of those stones. There are probably others as well, i stopped watching after end game besides Loki. Or how does one come to naturally develop the power of these stones?
WRONG! These videos just hunt for our views and likes, but offer nothing true. Remember in Avengers 3 Infinity War, when Thanos attacked Thor's spaceship, his sorcerer said to Thanos that "no other being had the might or nobility to have not one, but two Infinity stones". That is a very clear statement.
Ok, Hear me out: the lore around the Stones' origins is mostly Odin lying to us and he hid them to prevent Ragnarok. In Nordic lore, Odin "sacrifices himself to himself" by hanging from Yggdrasil (the World Tree) to gain the knowledge of "the Runes" which are often represented as symbols (Elder Futhark) engraved on STONES that granted the wielder unimaginable power over reality. He does this, and plucks out his own eye and wanders the known world (in MCU, this would translate to "known universe"), to find the means of foreseeing and preventing Ragnarok (i.e. the Runes aka Infinity Stones). We might have "stories" of where the Stones (Runes) were kept, but remember that Odin is often associated with the Rune "Ansuz" for its association with the magic that comes from communication. Odin was a known story-teller, and liar. Like Socrates, Odin was not particularly trusted among men for his ability to weave tales and distort reality through speech (this is without the Runes, the dude was just great at telling tall-tales). So, I submit that almost everything we are told about the Stones is a lie- and actually told to us by Odin himself. Much of what you see on-screen in the MCU is real (or real illusions, like in Spider-Man: Homecoming), except the parts about the origins of the Stones themselves, which are a fabrication from Odin and perhaps the only illusion in the MCU never to be revealed as such, crafted by the master of deception himself. Further, Odin collected the Stones for the same reason he collected the Runes in Nordic lore: to prevent Ragnarok. The same outcome even occurs: in trying to prevent Ragnarok, Odin inadvertently causes it. In the lore, it is Odin and his two brothers who create the 9 (-ish) Realms. Very possible that they used the Stones for this purpose but this would be a reversal of the lore compared to the MCU; Odin didn't have the Runes/Stones when creating the Realms in the lore. But the MCU mashes stuff up and was written by an AI so I digress. P.S. Do we know how Odin lost his eye in the MCU? Because in the lore he sacrificed it on his quest for the Runes, in order to gain wisdom from Mimir's Well. If it's left ambiguous, then it's def a reference to his quest to find the Runes which further supports my thesis.
This is all cool and sounds plausible, but you can’t state something as fact and then say “what if” it’s either “did you know…” or “this is what I think” can’t have both
Knew an Infinity Stone was powerful So hid it on random planet... So Earth gets both Space and Time stone Power stone, random temple Soul stone, ritual sacrifice Mind... somewhere i guess Reality, actually breaks this logic because it stayed buried on the Dark Elves' world thanks to Odin's Father; Bor In short Sorry my guy This theory don't work
Odin did not collect all of the stones, Agamotto and his descendants held onto the Space Stone, The Dark Elves had the Aether/Reality Stone and Thanos already had the Mind Stone before the Avengers in 2012, and S.H.I.E.L.D. already had the Space Stone.
This expleints why Thor knew about every Stone in Infinity war
He knew abt them because he saw a vision about them in the second avengers movie with ultron
Bro can you recheck your comment if you don’t mind
@@anna_mpand he saw the vision bc he is the son of odin
@@therandomrobloxian5673and because he’s half giant (in mythology)
@@therandomrobloxian5673he saw the vision becasue of Wanda
"What if I told you I made all of this up"
Thats what a theory is dude...
@@connorobeirne934 a theory is based on observable facts, the video surmises every "fact" follow by "but what if" without confirming a single thing. His is a hypothesis in light of unconfirmed "facts".
@@GrugTheJust I just searched up synonyms for "hypothesis". Guess what came up?
Theory.
I was going to say that 😅😅😅😅
“What if I told you Marvel is fiction?”
lol.
"That's a pretty good argument. Why don't you back it up with a source?"
"My source is I made it the fuck up."
''My blood is red, White and blue jack, i wonder what color your's is''.
No funny stop hating and let him cook😂😂
@@therealY.J still no evidence
It’s a theory😭
@@orangecitrus8056 Reverse evidence, actually. Odin's father literally sealed the reality stone away in a pocket dimension. You don't need anything else to be able to tell that this idea holds no water.
"Did you know"
*proceeds to describe a theory*
Thank you, I was looking for a Comment like this so I could post it if I didn’t find one.
I thought it wad me alone recognizing thos shit trend
+1
guy thinks we cannot help but noticed
It’s thing called comics he’s basing it off half theory half facts
Thanos feared Odin
@@SAITEJA-tr8cxhe checked for odin under his bed before going to sleep.
@@superblue-Bc6reLmao 🤣
@@SAITEJA-tr8cxThanos literally waited for Odin to die before making his big move. Matter of fact Thanos waited for Odin, The Ancient One, and Ego to be completely out of the picture before finally showing up in person in Infinity War.
I would too if the guy could just speak laws of magic into existence
He didn't know we was an old man with one eye
You may have missed the part where the Sorcerer Supreme is the keeper of the Time stone, and the Reality stone was locked away by Odin's father deep within the earth.
I mean,he might have not gotten all the stones,and could have given the time stone to agamotto (in the comics they were teammates once,might have also been the case in the MCU after Odin's conquering days were over)while the reality stone would have been sealed by his father in fear of Odin's or anyone else's ambition causing ruin with it
Odin was a pre human civilisation being. There was no time stone keeper atleast until 7000 years ago, like in eternals. Odin is literally miliions of years old.
but odin is likely 10 thousands of years old so theres that
Ok one dude said hes millions of years old. Next dude says thousands. Thats not a small difference guys lol
@@LplusRatioLolin comics he is but in mcu he’s only a few thousand years old
Odin was like UK. First loot then play innocent
Odin is not that ugly cheap character
@@its999wrld4 my bad
Golden comment
hHahahaha, probably an idiot liberal
😂😂
Some other theories say that odin got all stones except the soul stone. When he went to get the soul stone, he learned that he has to sacrifice someone he loved, means he had to sacrifice hela. That might have changed his heart. But hela didn't know this, so she went against him and he imprisoned her.
It's possible but unless the space stone took red a Skull back in time and on vormir it's unlikely because hela and Odin search for the stones would've been before the events of captain America the first avenger were the space stone took red Skull to vormir were he was a guide to all that seek the soul stone and if that's not the case then how would he have known he needed to Sacrafice someone for the stone unless at some point the soul stone was place on vormir and if so when so. The only way i can see this being true is if odin found it somewhere else and he him self hid it there. It's possible but more info is needed
@@brysonjames3816it's not like red skull is required. There could have been many before red skull and many after.
He definitely never had the Aether, as shown in The Dark World.
@@Shadowgod1000was just gonna comment this
@@aaronlogue6281 I was going to comment some other things on other posts, some people beat me to it though. It also makes no sense that he would put two stones on Earth, nor put the Power Stone of all things on Morag, instead of someplace it would be secure like his vault. He could have buried it under the vault so it would have never been found and no one would have ever known. The scepter also makes no sense.
If you pay close attention to it in Thor ragnarok you can see that it was right handed, but if you rewatch infinity war you can see that it is on thanos’s left hand.
I think you mean it was on Thanos’ LEFT hand in Infinity War
@@arkking552 yes that is what I meant
And if you pay even more attention, you would have noticed that they aren't even the same gloves.
Remember the scene where Thor asked the last Dwarven smith to make Stormbreaker? The Dwarf told Thor about how he made the left handed gauntlet for Thanos.
And wasn't Odin right handed? He carried his spear in his right hand...
You are right about that
"" *Because Tony learns from his mistakes* ""
Wh what?
@@cosmicgigachad_
There is a guy who talked about neat little details in the MCU and every short he did where he talked about Tony Stark ended with "Because Tony learns from his mistakes" and he ended his shorts like that because Tony learns from his mistakes.
i do! i understood that reference
Did he learn to not to let someone steal a suit of his iron man armor no cause that was the last and only time it happened 😂😂
PJ NEVER DISAPPOINTS
I hope they canonize that in a future film. We should get another clip of Valhalla where Odin is telling the story.
Exactly
I could see loki season 2 time traveling to before Odin passed and he tells the story then
Except for it's not true, Odin very clearly never had the Aether
@@Shadowgod1000the glove is also right handed even though Thanos clearly has a left one
literally the first 2 clips debunked the theory 💀
@@localmilkman5698 that means nothing, more than one person could have a gauntlet.
There's click bait and then there's this reel.😅
We need a movie with adventures of Boar, Odin & Hela.
Yeah it will be the most powerful movie in the mcu
I have the biggest crush on Hela 😂 so I approve this message. Dont ask me why but mama can get it 🤷🏾♂️
Before become allfather, so his name is Odin Borson
@@iansimpson7775crushing on hela gotta be weird
@@Ice_cube999nah you never seen the fandom of female fictional Characters specialy tall female fictional character full simps and wants to get dominated people
We need an Odin origins. That would be cosmic 😂
They’d make Odin a woman tho.
@@tomthetit2419 Very true 😂
@@tomthetit2419f this woke bs.
It's called reading comics.
@@tomthetit2419nah more like non-binary trans 😂
A movie on odin would be great
Id like to see Odin and Hella movie back in time
Same
or variants!!
Hmmm. I'd be concerned Anthony Hopkins is too old to put in the physicality necessary unless they just CG his face on a stunt double ala Count Dooku from Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
Otherwise they'd have to go with younger actors in which case they'd have to do the same with Hela and I dunno... it has potential but might be weird...
I’d like to see Thanos raising his kids. Show me that he loved Gamora, don’t just tell me. Would have made for the perfect money grab hour long special instead of Captain Marvek which had no bearing on End Game
@@pop2522i'm not sure how they'd make Thanos raise Odin's kids, but yeah, I'd watch that!
Odin in mythology is a basically a collector of artifacts related to ragnarok
"If Odin tells ya the snow is white he's lying brother!"
Mimir
Only problem I see with this logic is that the Reality Stone(Aether) was in the possession of the Dark Elves during Odin's father Bor's lifetime and hidden away on a secret planet before his death. If Odin sought the Reality Stone out to wield all of the Infinity Stones it would make for a wildly large plot hole that his father let him know this secret location.
Ok, Hear me out: the lore around the Stones' origins is mostly Odin lying to us and he hid them to prevent Ragnarok.
In Nordic lore, Odin "sacrifices himself to himself" by hanging from Yggdrasil (the World Tree) to gain the knowledge of "the Runes" which are often represented as symbols (Elder Futhark) engraved on STONES that granted the wielder unimaginable power over reality.
He does this, and plucks out his own eye and wanders the known world (in MCU, this would translate to "known universe"), to find the means of foreseeing and preventing Ragnarok (i.e. the Runes aka Infinity Stones).
We might have "stories" of where the Stones (Runes) were kept, but remember that Odin is often associated with the Rune "Ansuz" for its association with the magic that comes from communication. Odin was a known story-teller, and liar. Like Socrates, Odin was not particularly trusted among men for his ability to weave tales and distort reality through speech (this is without the Runes, the dude was just great at telling tall-tales).
So, I submit that almost everything we are told about the Stones is a lie- and actually told to us by Odin himself. Much of what you see on-screen in the MCU is real (or real illusions, like in Spider-Man: Homecoming), except the parts about the origins of the Stones themselves, which are a fabrication from Odin and perhaps the only illusion in the MCU never to be revealed as such, crafted by the master of deception himself.
Further, Odin collected the Stones for the same reason he collected the Runes in Nordic lore: to prevent Ragnarok. The same outcome even occurs: in trying to prevent Ragnarok, Odin inadvertently causes it.
In the lore, it is Odin and his two brothers who create the 9 (-ish) Realms. Very possible that they used the Stones for this purpose but this would be a reversal of the lore compared to the MCU; Odin didn't have the Runes/Stones when creating the Realms in the lore. But the MCU mashes stuff up and was written by an AI so I digress.
P.S. Do we know how Odin lost his eye in the MCU? Because in the lore he sacrificed it on his quest for the Runes, in order to gain wisdom from Mimir's Well. If it's left ambiguous, then it's def a reference to his quest to find the Runes which further supports my thesis.
should have a tv siries for odin
Agree
With Disney handle it?...I think no....
Let the fans do it
Yes it is called American Gods
@@GMO_meme_cornerDisney isnt the issue, I think people forget that marvel isnt star wars, from Iron Man 1 disney was at the helm. The movies quality being rundown isnt just disney, its bad writers and rushed projects. If Disney takes the time to let the projects breathe, and hires better writers the quality will increase IE Loki Season 2
Honestly, if Odin and Hela had their own movies, it will be amazing
that would be epic
This is not really possible, because before Odin's conquest of the nine realms the aether a.k.a the reality stone was already lost courtesy to Odin's father Bor, when he hid it away from the dark elves
It is possible because what if he didnt use the reality stone I mean its Odin he wouldn't really need it
@@mcocldsr1509 then why have a gauntlet? Try thinking lol.
very true thats why this short vid really doesnt make any sense and just a wishful thinking, not even in the comics was it ever shown that odin had the power to take one celestial at all. odin force is strong but not enough to take down a celestial much more a celestial with a infinity stone
Odin tried to get them all but didn’t because he didn’t want to sacrifice a soul for the Soul Stone and didn’t know where the Reality Stone was. This video state he had them all but his info is wrong. Odin only had two of the stones and gave one of them to The Collector. Maker of this video is giving false info. You need them all and Odin didn’t have them all.
@@xdeath_slayer38x39 he never had two stones. No one has until thanos. It’s pretty well stated in infinity war by ebony maw
Odin needs his own movie!
So does Uranus
Even the directors wouldn’t have imagined that some people would be linking things like this 😭
There is no way in hell that Odin and Hela defeated the celestials.
They know their place in the food chain
Actually it would make sense. Odin in Norse mythology killed Ymir, who basically created all of the nine realms except midgard, and then tore a piece of Ymir's dead flesh and turned it's primordial essence into Midgard. Now while marvel is known for not being accurate in the slightest to mythology they do sometimes actually get some stuff accurate, so Odin killing gods and using the stones could be a possibility
Odin also never had the Aether. Also Odin would have probably kept the Power Stone where he could keep an eye on it since it is so destructive. There is no reason why he would specifically put two infinity Stones on Earth, since that's the reason why they gave the Aether to the Collector, so there's not two in one location.
It is confirmed that Celestials are more powerful than Odin and if they are already more powerful than him there is no way he can beat one wielding the POWER STONE
@@arkking552unless he had the other stones. Think before you speak.
@@ItalianStallion9790 the Time Stone has been with the Sorcerer Supreme’s for a long time. In Thor the Dark World Odin says that he has no idea where the Reality Stone was. He would’ve never sacrificed something he loved for the Soul Stone. The only Stones Odin would’ve had was the Space and Mind Stones but even then, the Celestial had the source of all power in the universe. Odin still stood no chance against it
If that gauntlet was real, Hela would have had it on her hand so damn fast. She was trying to conquer the 9 realms, if she had that easy if a win at her fingertips, it wouldn’t have been overlooked. There’s literally zero reason why you would ever think that was real.
I think she could’ve meant it was fake because it had no real stones in it, it had fake ones.
She would also have taken the tesseract knowing it was the space stone...
Fair enough
But she had asgard already. So she owned it.
@@Psychebane
Did she know that the space stone was inside the Tesseract? If Odin was trying to hide the Infinity Stones to make them harder to obtain, and he imprisoned Hela as part of his way of trying to right his past, then I think it would make sense that she wouldn't necessarily know that as Odin presumably would not have told her or wanted her to know.
This is easily disprovable:
The fake gauntlet in Odin's chamber is right handed. The real infinity gauntlet is left handed.
You remember Nidevallier? The star where all weapons of asguard are manufactured? Thanos went there to get another gauntlet made and then proceeded to cut off the hands of the dwarf who made it. How did its design came into being if Odin never had one made for himself? Odin has right hand gauntlet. Thanos has left one
Odin carries his spear in his right hand, so I am assuming he is right hand dominant.
It also has the stones on the wrong positions
Except Odin had no idea where the reality stone was located. He flat out says this in Dark World.
Could he have lie?
@@thefunguy5069ofc..heimdal knew
@@thefunguy5069his father Bor hid it so it may not have been a lie
He didn't want to know where it was sent
Just because you may not know where something is does not mean that they never possessed it. What an ignorant idea.
Ebony Maw says thanos is the first being to even hold 2 infinity stones at the same time
Is Ebony Maw omniscient? Or is it possible that stuff happens that Ebony doesn't know about
@@michaelsorensen7567 nah he definitely doesn’t know everything, I just wanted to point that out
You trust Squidward? Haha he was obviously a super boot licker
@@hitsfasholoki was the first, he had the tesseract(space gem) and the sceptre (mind stone)
@@manuellivanu9876 oh damn that’s technically true
That’s some deep logic.
Imagine that the reason he imprisoned Hela was cuz he loved her more than anything, and needed to sacrifice her to keep the soul stone away
Imagine how that’s not what sacrificing means. She was imprisoned, not killed
@@achtungbaby91u26😂😂😂 👌👌👌
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OP might have meant that Odin imprisoned her to keep her around so that in the event where he might potentially decide to sacrifice her for the soul stone, he would be able to.
It would be like keeping an animal in a cage for an animal sacrifice. The animal being kept in its cage is not currently being sacrificed, but it is being held captive so that when its owner decides to sacrifice it later, the animal is there for them to do so.
But we don't need to imagine. He got rid of her, and she says to Skurge, her father imprisoned her.
Smh he wanted to keep her from doing what Thanos did she probably would’ve wiped out more than 50%
Directors: damn bro i didn't even know that myself
To lazy to write your own script?
To lazy to read & record it?
No worries! AI is here for you!
I like this theory because it sounds like revisionist history.
"How'd the Celestials lose them?" "Look, Oden needs to be a symbol of good."
Please explain this more.
Odin is strong but not celestial level.
Odin is still one of the biggest mysteries in the MCU
If u read the comics you’d know he’s not
It was confirmed it was fake before thor ragnarock, and then Hella pushed it over saying it was a fake, and thats the joke. Everybody talked about it since the first thor movie because you could see it there.
But when marvel changed plans with thanos and the story, mavel said it was fake to fix the plot of whyOdin had it there, and thats why/how we got this amazing joke Hella saying it's fake.
Did you know this happened, here is my theory. While I'm not saying what you said is completely devoid of merit, you said that this definitely happened, then just gave speculation. It also makes no sense why Odin would hide two infinity stones on Earth. Maybe he viewed it as such a primitive world, that he didn't think anyone would look there. But at the same time, he would have kept at least one of the Infinity Stones. You're also wrong because of the Aether, Odin never had it. It was lost after his father sealed it away, and it remained sealed until Jane found it.
‘Something they love’ nikocado sacrificing his entire stock of food
Things have changed since this comment was made...
Regarding how Steve Rogers/Captain America returned the six Infinity Stones at the conclusion of the _Endgame_ film, there’s an online FanFiction story entitled “The Infinity Stones Return: Captain America’s Final Adventure.” This story is written in the form of a heavily detailed plot-summary for an eight-episode mini-series. ¶
The first episode takes place before Captain America (hereafter called “Cap” for short) begins his journey, and shows Professor Hulk rebuilding the time machine and Scott Lang/Antman volunteering for the initial test run. This involves a return-trip to Clint Barton’s pre-snap home to put back the baseball glove that was taken during the original test-run. Afterward, Doctor Strange explains why the stones have been placed in the briefcase and reveals that the Tesseract, Orb, and Sceptre have been shrunken down to fit in Cap’s pockets and will be re-enlarged after he arrives in the past to re-contain their respective stones at the proper time. ¶
In the second episode, Cap visits the Ancient One in 2012 prior to the arrival of his earlier self in New York. There, she uses the combined power of the six stones in the briefcase to cast future-dated spells that will make the 2012-2014 timelines reset themselves once the heisted stones have been returned to their proper places. Afterwards, she transports to the roof of the New York sanctum where she gives Hulk the original version of the Time Stone after first putting on a performance-act of initial resistance and surprise to ensure he understands the importance of returning the stones afterward. She then reclaims the returned-version from Cap’s briefcase. ¶
In the third episode, the Ancient One continues to assist Cap by helping him recapture Loki and returning him into SHIELD custody along with the stolen 2012-Tesseract (after future-Tony and Scott have fled the scene of course). Afterwards, the re-enlarged Sceptre re-containing the Mind Stone is given back to the Hydra goons, thus triggering the first timeline-reboot spell which erases everyone’s memory of the wayward events. However, the final scene then reveals that since Loki misused the Space Stone’s power in the wayward timeline, a branch-timeline was nevertheless still created, thus requiring the TVA to intervene. ¶
In the fourth episode, Cap shoots forward to 2013 where he re-teams with the Ancient One for the journey to Asgard. There, they work together to neutralize Heimdall before putting the Reality Stone/Aether back into Jane Foster’s body and returning the enchanted hammer to a comically confused Thor. Afterward, the timeline is then likewise reset to erase everyone’s memories. ¶
The fifth episode has Cap shooting forward again to 2014 where he returns the re-enlarged Orb containing the Power Stone to the temple on Morag after he and the Ancient One first make a brief but necessary side-trip to delay Korath’s arrival and prevent his interference. The sixth episode then has Cap being sent to Vormir where, in order to return the Soul Stone, he must first contend with a temporarily freed Red Skull and a temporarily resurrected Natasha Romanoff. ¶
The start of the seventh episode then reveals that, with the two stones from 2014 returned, the timeline has also now been reset so that everyone’s memories have been erased and that exact duplicate/replacement versions of Thanos, Gamora, and Nebula have been created to take the place of their original counterparts who jumped forward to 2023. ¶
Before travelling back to 1970 and then further back to 1946 though, Cap first reveals to the Ancient One that Doctor Strange had previously placed a charmed spell over Cap’s aura so that no one in the past would be able to recognize who he really is unless he wants them to. Hence, Peggy would be able to see Cap in his true form when he returns to her whereas everyone else would see him as somebody different. This would then enable him to easily change his name and assume the identity of a former G.I. whose unit was rescued by Captain America during the war as per the reference in the _Winter Soldier_ film. This also then explains why the younger Cap didn't recognize his older self at Peggy's funeral during the _Civil War_ movie. ¶
In the last part of this seventh episode, Cap returns to 1970 and puts the re-enlarged Tesseract containing the Space Stone back in the vault, then proceeds up to Hank Pym’s lab to put back the four replenished vials of Pym Particles. Upon arriving in the lab however, he is unexpectedly intercepted by the TVA. The final episode then has Cap being recruited by the TVA to fight the Red Guardian in 1984 before being allowed to return to 1946 and live happily ever after. ¶
Hope you enjoy reading the story in full on the FanFiction website. Cheers!
I think he tried to collect them all, built asgard, gave Heimdall powers with the mind stone, but stopped as he realised it was wrong, and he didn't want to sacrifice his children for the mind stone, but Hela didn't care so Odin imprisoned her
there is roughly a 500-2000 year age difference between thor and hela and if my math is right there should not have been any overlap so there's no way Odin could have sacrificed any of his children plus if he hid the stone on vormir he wouldn't need to sacrifice anything to get it
U mean the soul stone
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According to the latest canon (as the Asgardians in particular and magic as a whole concerning Deities specifically has been changed and retconned multiple times), Odin was in his likely in or near his prime something like 500,000 odd years ago when he battled Surtur.
Consider that Odin's father Borr was in his Prime back when the universe had only recently had the concept of freaking LIGHT introduced to it as that's when the Dark Elves tried to use the next convergence (at most 5000 years after the introduction of light to the universe since convergences happen every 5000 years or so apparently) to try and return the universe to Darkness and the War with Asgard ensued. That would make Odin and Bor both LUDICROUSLY old. As we're talking about 2 being who, over the shared course of their lives, span from the dawn of light in the universe to present day. Think about that for a second.
He might have also used the stones to improve the strength and lifespan of the Asguardians.
We’ll see the thing is thanos already had the infinity gauntlet by the first avengers movie 💀 hella also found the real Tesseract and if the it hadn’t been broken yet then how did she get the stone 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
The writers don't know this 😂😂😂
Then odin sacrificed who for the soul stone?
He didn't sacrifice anyone If he is the one who put it there
That one stone is white not yellow so it wouldn't be the soul stone. Plus the tesseract was not destroyed which held the space stone.
Red Skull specifically claimed that Odin once possessed the Tessaract in Captain America, The First Avenger.
@@kouzoukian oww yaa you are right
The soul stones law is eternal. It’s pretty well implied. Apart from the fact Odins dad hid the ether (reality stone) if the soul stones rules could just be changed, pretty sure hulk could have brought Natasha back considering he wielded them all.
But yeah. The tesseract was once on Asgard.
Also if he had all 6 I’m pretty sure they’d have conquered far more than 9 realms lol.
Instead of the garbage we get from Marvel we should get a Thor and Odin, father and son scene where Odin explains his story and "who he really was" to Thor in Thor movie ending.
They establish when and why Odin ends his conquest in the first Thor movie. He stopped after defeating the Frost Giants and “adopting” Loki. Hela is simply an additional, albeit omitted, layer on top of that. Chronologically, Hela and Odin would have had their falling out after Jotunheim was subjugated, at which point she was banished and Odin redecorated.
Unless the writers change it.... stupid
Why should that be the case? In comics Asgardians and Frost Giants are enemies.
I think he has stopped his conquest and imprisoned Hella for some other reason.
After some years down the line after Thor was born, there was another all-out war with Frost Giants for whatever reason, he defeated them and took Loki as his own, hoping this would end the generational conflict between them once Loki grows-up and takes his rightful place as the leader of frost giants (obviously he was wrong about that).
big flaw to this theory about odin getting the stones the reality stone was in a hidden vault and odin had no access to it and that stone was lost before odin was ever king and before hela was born
"Thauunose" 💀
😂😂
The gauntlet was specially forged to fit thanos. The gauntlet hadn't been forged yet so that gauntlet was fake and also failed writing since whoever created the fake gauntlet couldn't have known thanos would have one made
Knull killed that celestial, man
Bro there are somany celestial
@@caske77but knowhere is the planet which is the head of celestial who killed by knull
@@sarathchandhiran5660
There's multiple stories...
In another, Knowhere was 1 of 2 celestial objects orbiting Battleworld and is the decapitated head of a celestial slain by god Emperor Doom.
I want a solo movie on Odin ❤
Me too it would be cool to see 6 stones in 1 movie again
Frrr
This is all made up, but I could imagine Odin placing that enchantment on the Soul Stone. It's very poetic.
the fact is oddin collected stones for some evil works but after thousand of years he realised ...and then he hide those stones by himself so taht no one can use it
Exactly 💯
@@crazysmartgaming except his father hid the ether. And Odin said he had no idea where it was. He might have even said it was destroyed. (Can’t remember).
@@colinharris615maybe he wasn't being completely honest about not knowing the whereabouts of the stone, since he has so many secrets?
@@Tronic_Rider-kl9cu pretty sure he’d mention it to Thor given it’s on earth “btw…the ether is here so…make sure no one fucks with it” lol. Especially given the up coming convergence.
It’s also stated in infinity war no one has “ever had the might…neigh, the nobility to wield not one but two infinity stones” so… yeah. Sure it’s safe to say this theory’s wrong lol.
@@colinharris615It wasn't on Earth, only two stones were on Earth, the Time and Space Stones. Which makes no sense that Odin would hide two stones on Earth and not keep one, especially the Power Stone in his vault. Odin wouldn't have hidden it away on some random planet that's not connected to him. Vormir, sure, that could make sense, it's a dead planet away from everything and no one would ever go there.
An “Odin” MCU movie would be cool.
Um it's fake cause it's on the wrong hand and while Odin did obtain the stones n used them he also threw them away after he saw his daughter Hella wanted them for herself for power so he got rid of them n imprison her
One of the strongest character in mcu on his prime he's a monster
This why we need a Odin movie
No offense, but your voice sounds kinda like AI sometimes.
Odin cannot even think of defeating a fookin celestial dude 💀
I think he can. The celestial did not seem like some unbeatable enteties and Odin was insanely powerful. The guardians defetaed one for instance. And there is a place build on the severed head of a celestial, someone had to have severed it.
@@mlgmeistros4278they are powerful. They engulf previous civilization and create innumerable civilization from it. It already shown in eternals.
In my opinion asguardians will beat any marvel characters simply since they are actual Norse gods. That's just to me though. In truth, these are simply the marvel versions of these gods and I just can't bring myself to accept that
@@mlgmeistros4278
The guardians were able to defeat not by their power but because Peter was also a half celestial(we don't even know if he was actually a celestial since he is extremely different from other Celestials and also in the Comics, he is just a planet that became conscious. Hence, Ego "the living planet") and they managed to bombard his brain.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
You do realise that Norse and other polytheistic gods/goddesses aren't omnipotent or extremely powerful? They range from beings with almost no powers to beings with a decent amount of powers but none are anything like the Monotheistic God and at the end of the day, they all have weaknesses and are getting their ass kicked every now and then.
I think when he placed the Soul Stone on Vormir, Odin enchanted in the same manner as he did Thor’s hammer: “Whosoever shall wield the Soul Stone, if they are willing to sacrifice the thing they love, shall possess the power of the Soul Stone.”
If they had all the infinity stones then why didn’t Thanos just take them already
Sounds more like speculation than a fact?
This guy pays more attention to the script than the writer
Not even close, also it's false.
How his theory is completely ridiculous
big flaw to this theory the reality stone was in a hidden vault and odin had no access to it and that stone was lost before odin was ever king and before hela was born
Something tells me Hella would NOT have casually so nonchalantly disregarded a fully complete infinity gauntlet. Also she helped in the war so she would be able to confirm the authenticity anyway right? and again i just can't see even her arrogant ass being stupid enough to undermine the ridiculous power that gauntlet has compared to her most powerful self i just cant see this theroy working, also technically this theroy falls apart when you consider the gauntlet was made for thanos in infinity war after Ragnarok where we first see the debut of the fake gauntlet, so its definitely a fake💯🗿
We need a good web series on odin
nah, impossible, although you think Odin and hela slayed the celestial for the stone, it was actually Null. Leader of the symbiotic army. Because he wanted to cull all good of the universe. 😂😂
so it was fake because Odin father hid the reality stone and he never had the time stone but he might of had the others
Bro acts like Norse mythology just doesn’t exist 💀 in Norse mythology, the infinity stones aren’t a thing, and heimdal still had his powers
I just couldn't believe he didnt keep the mind stone one ability of the mind stone that we dont see in the movies but is in an mcu comic explaining Thanos origins we learn you can use the mind stone to become all knowing know everything before it happens know every secret every piece of information the universe had to offer what advantage that would be to protect asgard and the nine realms
What you think about green stone then. Because Loki's power color is green and color of time stone is green too. Now he had learnt time sleeping 🤯
Wouldn't it be smarter to set up the other stones based off Vormir system? I mean, how much can you really sacrifice?
this is such a dumb video i'll be real with you, just a random one-sentence theory with no supporting evidence
... Odin has the Odin-Force. Which is _more powerful_ than the stones. Why would Odin ever need them?
Wait I thought all his power being able to hold back hela went away when he died so wouldn't that make the magic holding back the soul stone disappear when he died?
No he didn’t it is just a theory cause if he did the eather would already be in stone form in Thor the dark world it would not be a liquid so this is a stupid theory
So Heimdall 9 times out of ten snorted some of the soul stone, good to know
Bro there is no way that’s real. There is a literal infinity stone IN THAT ROOM
If this was real then why weren't the infinity stones glowing, and in that same scene, the real tesseract was displayed, not in the gauntlet.
Bro should be stan lee and create his own superhero story instead making his own stupid theory
My personal theory was that Hela was what Odin sacrificed in order to get the Soul Stone. She's immune to death, so it had to be done by locking her away. For it to be a true sacrifice, she can't ever be retrieved by Odin, and so his death is what was required to release her. Sacrificing the one he was conquering the cosmos with gave him perspective, and he realized that seeking ultimate power wasn't worth it if it involved making those sacrifices, so he abandoned his conquest.
I was wondering the other day, why do we think hela is dead? If thor was able to live in outerspace and was near death, why wouldnt hela also be able to? Plus she had just got powered up by being at asgaurd.
I also see that the gauntlet infinity stone order is not like what we see in the mcu wehn thanos had it i stead its the comic book infinity gems order so its i cool little detail
The gauntlet was fake because at this point the gauntlet wasn’t even forged yet💀
Just because Odin theoretically could have obtained the infinity stones (which is only theoretical) that doesn't automatically mean he has the power to wield ALL of the infinity stones...
He never obtained them the gauntlet was a fake
Professionals: Odin conquered 9 realms.
Me: silence. God of war ragnarök.
Then how was the Terri there with the space stone in the infinity gauntlet at the same time?
Oh okay I'll sacrifice my ps5 😂 for the soul stone
it was fake because the blue stone was in the testaract and it shows the stone in the ganlet so it was fake
Did u know the gauntlet wasn’t fake but actually still fake?
If it was real she would have used it not just tossed it to the ground...
If you push them off a cliff…
Do you truly love them??
Hmm. So did he also infuse Wanda and Loki? Reality and time stones? Because they both have the power of those stones.
There are probably others as well, i stopped watching after end game besides Loki.
Or how does one come to naturally develop the power of these stones?
Oi sou brazileiro eu não entendi nada oque o homem falou
I think the stones in the gauntlet are fake but the gauntlet is real
WRONG! These videos just hunt for our views and likes, but offer nothing true.
Remember in Avengers 3 Infinity War, when Thanos attacked Thor's spaceship, his sorcerer said to Thanos that "no other being had the might or nobility to have not one, but two Infinity stones". That is a very clear statement.
Bro this is general knowledge we Dont need a video for it
Ok, Hear me out: the lore around the Stones' origins is mostly Odin lying to us and he hid them to prevent Ragnarok.
In Nordic lore, Odin "sacrifices himself to himself" by hanging from Yggdrasil (the World Tree) to gain the knowledge of "the Runes" which are often represented as symbols (Elder Futhark) engraved on STONES that granted the wielder unimaginable power over reality.
He does this, and plucks out his own eye and wanders the known world (in MCU, this would translate to "known universe"), to find the means of foreseeing and preventing Ragnarok (i.e. the Runes aka Infinity Stones).
We might have "stories" of where the Stones (Runes) were kept, but remember that Odin is often associated with the Rune "Ansuz" for its association with the magic that comes from communication. Odin was a known story-teller, and liar. Like Socrates, Odin was not particularly trusted among men for his ability to weave tales and distort reality through speech (this is without the Runes, the dude was just great at telling tall-tales).
So, I submit that almost everything we are told about the Stones is a lie- and actually told to us by Odin himself. Much of what you see on-screen in the MCU is real (or real illusions, like in Spider-Man: Homecoming), except the parts about the origins of the Stones themselves, which are a fabrication from Odin and perhaps the only illusion in the MCU never to be revealed as such, crafted by the master of deception himself.
Further, Odin collected the Stones for the same reason he collected the Runes in Nordic lore: to prevent Ragnarok. The same outcome even occurs: in trying to prevent Ragnarok, Odin inadvertently causes it.
In the lore, it is Odin and his two brothers who create the 9 (-ish) Realms. Very possible that they used the Stones for this purpose but this would be a reversal of the lore compared to the MCU; Odin didn't have the Runes/Stones when creating the Realms in the lore. But the MCU mashes stuff up and was written by an AI so I digress.
P.S. Do we know how Odin lost his eye in the MCU? Because in the lore he sacrificed it on his quest for the Runes, in order to gain wisdom from Mimir's Well. If it's left ambiguous, then it's def a reference to his quest to find the Runes which further supports my thesis.
This is all cool and sounds plausible, but you can’t state something as fact and then say “what if” it’s either “did you know…” or “this is what I think” can’t have both
That explains why Thanos waited for Odin to die so he could collect the Infinity stones
Knew an Infinity Stone was powerful
So hid it on random planet...
So Earth gets both Space and Time stone
Power stone, random temple
Soul stone, ritual sacrifice
Mind... somewhere i guess
Reality, actually breaks this logic because it stayed buried on the Dark Elves' world thanks to Odin's Father; Bor
In short
Sorry my guy
This theory don't work
Ai saying infinity stones 10 times per second is the most unsatisfying thing ever 💀
Odin did not collect all of the stones, Agamotto and his descendants held onto the Space Stone, The Dark Elves had the Aether/Reality Stone and Thanos already had the Mind Stone before the Avengers in 2012, and S.H.I.E.L.D. already had the Space Stone.