ummmm no. Either gwt lucky or just play smart. You can easilly clear while of chapter 5 in VC with a fricking B tier Vulcan so no. A tiers aren't necessary for everyone. It would be nice but would make the game booring and devs would design new encounters with "everyone has giant killer" in mind so it wouldn't even do anything.
As you said, this is a curious solution to an issue that they ignored (or even promoted!) for well over a year now. And honestly as f2p I am concerned about if they do get rid of all the farmers, then all the cheap CSG conversion will disappear. I don't trust DH at all to change the structure of their events and not being able to do 7500 csg on an event will slow things down *so* much, and the game is already far too slow for end-game f2p.
I am pretty certain that they are gonna screw it up but we will see. Right now the entire economy of the AH with all the S Tiers etc is largely only there because of the farmers. Without farmers everything above A- will be rare again and even A- severely limited
I'm not sure why they just don't remove the ability to gift starry. The number of people who are legitimately gifting starry must be miniscule, so if they want to stop the black market they could do it that way without really negatively affecting people following their rules. Yes, it would probably annoy some whales who want to make "safe" sales of really good copies, or just swap copies between friends, but for the sake of fair gameplay I don't think that's a bad thing to get rid of either.
I actually borrowed sg to friends that I know for a long time through this feature. Well the problem with removing gifting is that it will impact the economy. Its a major change to it and would have negative effects on it. I think people often forget that cheap A- heroes are a result of sg farmers. Without sg farmers we would likely go back to the time where A- heroes cost like 70k+ sg and everything above that barely exists
@@WraecGacha the value of copies would go up for sure, but so would the value of starry itself. For non spenders super cheap a- heroes don't really matter if they're collecting regular starry by selling super cheap c- to b+ heroes anyway. And for spenders whether a copy costs $300 worth or starry at black mark prices or $300 worth at actual shop prices doesn't matter either. The one place it would be a big benefit for players would be soul awakening sessions if the higher value of starry meant fewer awakenings to reach the top ranks, and fewer copies needed to be collected as well. The downside of increased starry value would be CSG packs becoming more expensive, but that is something DH could adjust as well if they wanted to
As a low spender i really miss the B / B+ stones we used to get in galas :( I would love account bound B+ / A- stones. I still dont have an A- hero and it's so difficult to get F2P / low spender!
Question who should I build i have LFA, SQH, PDE, TBB, HHA. And I’m looking for a hero to help with void campaign I’m stuck on a valk flame strike sig wave.
DHGames had several ads showcasing earning money from playing the game. These came shortly after the introduction of the AH, so they haven't been quiet about the intent of luring people with the option to make money from playing.
Unless i get this today, i havent got it yet. The night before last i did i have to update the game in the play store. The update was so big i had to uninstall 9 apps from my phone for it to update!
You're not wrong that in some countries this sort of EULA is not fully valid, that only works if the company has a presence in that country, or will accept the decision of a lawsuit in that country. China is unlikely do that. If DH Games bans you, for any reason "legitimate" or not, you're very likely not going to have any recourse at all. But, if DH Games says "here is a rule, follow it or lose access to our servers", and you break the rule, most countries will say "too bad, you didn't follow the rules." So, good luck to anyone who tempts fate. YMMV
They won't fuck around with big spenders buying sgs, cc refunds are easy to get and there'd be basically no recourse for dh. Sg sellers could be more vulnerable depending on if they're selling from a few or many accounts
@@sinistril CC refunds don't affect DH Games. There is no recourse for players, big spenders or not, if DH Games decides to not care. Personally, I think the black market is bad for the game. But, also the current system for awakenings is bad for longevity. The best solution would be for awakening tiers to be changed to make E to S a more smooth transition. As someone who has played games like Diablo 3, which nearly killed itself with the real money auction house, and large MMORPGs which ban farming, DH Games should take those things into consideration to make a better game. But, that doesn't maximize their profit. In the end, the company is based in China, so the laws of Europe or the US are irrelevant.
I just don't see how ever removing the black market would actually make the game better. Time and time again throughout this you mention making the early game harder for new players to use the AH. As someone with multiple accounts, I have seen it clear through. My main account has reached Nirvana, done almost everything we can without buying better copies in the AH. If we get rid of black market, copies like you said go back to astronomical prices. While I haven't/don't know how do use the black market, it still makes it within my capabilities to get an A- copy now. A year ago or even less there is no chance I ever would have been. Even though I don't "directly" benefit from it, we all do passively. I hope if they are successful the ah goes unused tbh. Another money grab hurt by a greedy company. Shocker.
So now you can get banned if someone gifted you starry gems…. They created the monster, and at current prices. It would cost me roughly 1000-1100 Australian dollars to buy an a-. Yet if I went to the black market it would cost me $180-200. I know what I’m more comfortable with…
😅 the game already dead but now they are banned people for the stuff they create ,game less F2P players only whales play this game IH always making worst decision
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We need an account-bound A- core for everyone at some point😭🙏
ummmm no. Either gwt lucky or just play smart. You can easilly clear while of chapter 5 in VC with a fricking B tier Vulcan so no. A tiers aren't necessary for everyone.
It would be nice but would make the game booring and devs would design new encounters with "everyone has giant killer" in mind so it wouldn't even do anything.
🤤i want more than 1😂😂
Lovely and well articulated rant✔️❤️
Thanks mate :-)
As you said, this is a curious solution to an issue that they ignored (or even promoted!) for well over a year now. And honestly as f2p I am concerned about if they do get rid of all the farmers, then all the cheap CSG conversion will disappear. I don't trust DH at all to change the structure of their events and not being able to do 7500 csg on an event will slow things down *so* much, and the game is already far too slow for end-game f2p.
I am pretty certain that they are gonna screw it up but we will see. Right now the entire economy of the AH with all the S Tiers etc is largely only there because of the farmers. Without farmers everything above A- will be rare again and even A- severely limited
I love your rants wraec
Happy that you enjoy them :-)
fun vid, i dont play IH anymore but always nice to hear you talk ;3
Thanks mate :-)
I'm not sure why they just don't remove the ability to gift starry. The number of people who are legitimately gifting starry must be miniscule, so if they want to stop the black market they could do it that way without really negatively affecting people following their rules. Yes, it would probably annoy some whales who want to make "safe" sales of really good copies, or just swap copies between friends, but for the sake of fair gameplay I don't think that's a bad thing to get rid of either.
I actually borrowed sg to friends that I know for a long time through this feature. Well the problem with removing gifting is that it will impact the economy. Its a major change to it and would have negative effects on it. I think people often forget that cheap A- heroes are a result of sg farmers. Without sg farmers we would likely go back to the time where A- heroes cost like 70k+ sg and everything above that barely exists
@@WraecGacha the value of copies would go up for sure, but so would the value of starry itself. For non spenders super cheap a- heroes don't really matter if they're collecting regular starry by selling super cheap c- to b+ heroes anyway. And for spenders whether a copy costs $300 worth or starry at black mark prices or $300 worth at actual shop prices doesn't matter either.
The one place it would be a big benefit for players would be soul awakening sessions if the higher value of starry meant fewer awakenings to reach the top ranks, and fewer copies needed to be collected as well.
The downside of increased starry value would be CSG packs becoming more expensive, but that is something DH could adjust as well if they wanted to
As a low spender i really miss the B / B+ stones we used to get in galas :( I would love account bound B+ / A- stones. I still dont have an A- hero and it's so difficult to get F2P / low spender!
IH stuff goes hard
Is still watched a lot. I like that people still appreciate IH content
@@WraecGachaI love the your videos
Question who should I build i have LFA, SQH, PDE, TBB, HHA. And I’m looking for a hero to help with void campaign I’m stuck on a valk flame strike sig wave.
DHGames had several ads showcasing earning money from playing the game. These came shortly after the introduction of the AH, so they haven't been quiet about the intent of luring people with the option to make money from playing.
Wraec always the best in explaining what happen in ih 🤓
The best decision ever, black market destroyed game economy, not all people have access to it to buy sg for 1/4 of their real price
Blackmarket is still there and will not be ended by these measures
@@WraecGacha I just hope any activity like this now will be immediately, permanently banned.
Need somebody to sacrifice a throwaway account for science.
Scared to swap SG through b- copies at max buyout on the same email.
dope
Wait so can I still sell copies for max price using an alt account to buy it?
Their customers should request a refund from google if they are booted for this.
Unless i get this today, i havent got it yet. The night before last i did i have to update the game in the play store. The update was so big i had to uninstall 9 apps from my phone for it to update!
I also had to download the whole app again.
I really want to buy 10,000 stary gems from the black market to buy my first -A, but I don't know how, I have no connections with anyone😔
Whats your discord?
@@bernietalibong6104Ronniecoleman22
You're not wrong that in some countries this sort of EULA is not fully valid, that only works if the company has a presence in that country, or will accept the decision of a lawsuit in that country. China is unlikely do that. If DH Games bans you, for any reason "legitimate" or not, you're very likely not going to have any recourse at all.
But, if DH Games says "here is a rule, follow it or lose access to our servers", and you break the rule, most countries will say "too bad, you didn't follow the rules." So, good luck to anyone who tempts fate. YMMV
True to an extend but DH is vulnerable in that regard to google being their payment provider and the app being on the playstore.
@@WraecGacha I think that's overly optimistic. Google is not a major player in China. Google isn't even likely to press on China, push comes to shove.
They won't fuck around with big spenders buying sgs, cc refunds are easy to get and there'd be basically no recourse for dh. Sg sellers could be more vulnerable depending on if they're selling from a few or many accounts
@@sinistril CC refunds don't affect DH Games. There is no recourse for players, big spenders or not, if DH Games decides to not care. Personally, I think the black market is bad for the game. But, also the current system for awakenings is bad for longevity. The best solution would be for awakening tiers to be changed to make E to S a more smooth transition. As someone who has played games like Diablo 3, which nearly killed itself with the real money auction house, and large MMORPGs which ban farming, DH Games should take those things into consideration to make a better game. But, that doesn't maximize their profit.
In the end, the company is based in China, so the laws of Europe or the US are irrelevant.
Where I can find the black market?
Mostly on Discord. Maybe I will make a video about it
I just don't see how ever removing the black market would actually make the game better. Time and time again throughout this you mention making the early game harder for new players to use the AH. As someone with multiple accounts, I have seen it clear through. My main account has reached Nirvana, done almost everything we can without buying better copies in the AH. If we get rid of black market, copies like you said go back to astronomical prices. While I haven't/don't know how do use the black market, it still makes it within my capabilities to get an A- copy now. A year ago or even less there is no chance I ever would have been. Even though I don't "directly" benefit from it, we all do passively. I hope if they are successful the ah goes unused tbh. Another money grab hurt by a greedy company. Shocker.
Chinese farmers and Russian farmers are laughing.
DH doesnt even know they exist it seems :D
Wow
So now you can get banned if someone gifted you starry gems…. They created the monster, and at current prices. It would cost me roughly 1000-1100 Australian dollars to buy an a-.
Yet if I went to the black market it would cost me $180-200. I know what I’m more comfortable with…
I assume they are not gonna ban any normal players for it. That would just hurt themself
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Hey :-)
man its just so simple? just get rid of starry gifting ... why would anyone farm SG if they cant sell!?!?!?!? omfg DH stop hurting f2p and low spender
😅 the game already dead but now they are banned people for the stuff they create ,game less F2P players only whales play this game IH always making worst decision