Child Of The Cold War Vs Soviet Star | How Does F-16 Compare To Russia's MiG-29? | Ukraine War
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Speculation is building that Ukraine has begun receiving the F-16s promised by its Western allies. On December 22, the Netherlands PM announced that it would deliver 18 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine to fight Russian forces. Ukraine’s deployment of F-16s paves the way for a faceoff between the F-16 and the Russian MiG-29. The clash will be closely watched around the world, to see how the similarities and differences between the jets play out on the battlefield. Watch the video to find out more.
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0:00 - INTRODUCTION
1:07 - MiG-29 Vs F-16
2:52 - SIMILARITIES BETWEEN F-16 AND MIG-29
4:36 - CAN F-16s GIVE UKRAINE THE EDGE IN THE BATTLEFIELD?
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They wont be seeing Mig29, they will be seeing Su35s.
Su35 is a joke tho
There's barely 130 serviceable Su-35 and 130 early 1980s Mig-31 fast, rugged interceptors... and they need to protect a land roughly 90% of the COMBINED lands of the USA and China (3rd & 4th largest lands on earth, respectively)... so even the Su-35s & Mig-31's aren't going to be heavily used near Ukraine, much less INSIDE it against F-16s, which are well integrated with NATO grade anti-aircraft/anti-missile systems like the Patriot.
There's only 15 or so Su-57s, so they really are just advanced prototypes. Fewer still Mig-30.
In comparison, the US Air Force alone has over 10,000 very serviceable aircraft, with THOUSANDS of well maintained and/or new aircraft (like the F-35: currently there are over 450 F-35s, A & B & C variants).
Both Ukraine and Russia are STRAINING big times.... but Russia is pushing the very limits, despite starting out with many times more resources from the 1950s - 80s. Russia and Putin are wrong on most major things; but they are not wrong, when they say Ukraine still is standing only because of the US and Western Europe/NATO.
Fighting a war of attrition when you KNOW the country you're fighting against is supported by NATO, because it borders NATO nations.... that's one stupid finger-crossing tactical warring act you're engaging in... a war that has killed and wounded over 500,000 on both sides combined so far, in less than 2 years... with half of Ukraine by turned into rubble.
Russia, people need to understand, has a GDP that is reduced to being just 50% fo the GDP of illiterate California.
There is NO MAGIC around some hard facts:
when your nation is 90% of the lands of the US and China combined --- meaning you MUST use tons of resources to secure its GIANT perimeters ---- when your economy is ~50% of the economy of California, and when you're being cut off from trade and finance with 95% of the world's most advanced and richest nations.... saying you're willing and able to revert to eating just potatoes and grasses and barks, like your grandparents did in WW3... THAT isn't the most assuring way to engage in such a big, mostly war, in Europe... "if all the evil West would stop supporting Nazi Zelensky..."
No they will see MIG 31,S400 and su 57 felon.
Ukraine wont try to go head to head
@@verdebusterAP of course, we only have 18 F-16 for an entire country. We will have to use them wisely.
S-400 left the chat.
S400 sleeping with the rest of Russians over hyped wepaons, victims of an FPV drone or Storm Shadow/Scalp EG, fact!!
The thing about the f-16 that makes all these comparisons and predictions difficult is that it's been around for so long and has so many variants. It makes a very big difference *which* f-16 you are taking about. The capabilities of different versions can be as much as several generations apart, in certain areas like radar etc.
Upgraded A variant. Light years behind Su-35.
@@tomk3732 How many F-16's have the SU-35 shot down? They've encountered each other over Syria.
they've encountered each other but only at the level of of some 'saber rattling' no actual combat engagements. @@pogo1140
If you're talking about the MLU (mid life upgrade) models that have been promised so far, they are more like an upgraded C/D (block 50/52). So not as good as SU-35 one-on-one, sure. But they're not *that* far behind either. Plus, the mere possibility of losing SU-35s might make Russia scale back patrols, as they only have a very few of them, nor are they likely to get more anytime soon. @@tomk3732
@@pogo1140 And how many did Su-35s have F-16s shot down?
Dude you are comparing modern airframe to old junk that is 40 years old.
Who has the better trained pilots, best doctrine, missiles, radar, ground crew, co-operation, logistics, etc. will win. There are no wonder weapons like we saw with the Leopards, this is not a video game, boys.
Russia had the better navy too and they've lost a dozen warships in the last 2 years so maybe it looks better on paper but not in reality.
@@nicocrestmere9688but Russia has a navy, Ukraine lost theirs already
@dosa2990 precisely and Russia is still losing warships left and right to a country with no navy in a land war. Russia absolutely sucks at war.
@@nicocrestmere9688 Russia sucking at war against a near peer adversary (Europe's largest armed forces after Russia itself) due to them being funded by NATO isn't actually saying much about Russia's military capabilities. It's like if America went to war in Iraq by itself but Iraq was funded by everyone else. Would America do that well against an Iraq armed by Europe and every other big bad militarized nation on the planet? Not really.
@P3RF3CTD3ATH yes, yes we would. Russia funded Afghanistan and we still killed Osama and Saddam, all their sons, top generals and stayed twice as long as Russia did against JUST Afghanistan. Russia is losing to our 2nd rate hand me down weapons in the hands of farmers and old men after they bragged they could rival NATO. They can't even handle our hand me downs so that's why this loss is so embarrassing for them.
You will never see Mig29 vs F16, because Russian do not deploy Mig29 anymore. Probably this would be SU27, SU30.
Same russian garbage
MiG 35s too
I've just read some Russian military magazine for 2023. They said that Mig 35 have not yet entered mass production. They are primary for export. Russia itself actually prefer heavy fighters, like SU.
MiG29 came out as secondary solution. Like T72M compared to T72B@@RegulusVi
My guess is F16 will be used to launch anti radiation and long range cruise missiles
and will probably never see a Russian jet up close.
F16 nu are cum să fie văzut în aer de ruși pentru că vor fi distruse la sol înainte de a decola 🤣🪦🤣
În Irak au fost distruse câteva f16 de mitraliere ak47🤣
În realitate, din 10 f16, 8 cad singure doar la antrenamente 🤣🪦🤣
They've already been using AGM-88's against Russian radars. They're outdated and no match for modern ECM and AAA systems. The U.S. is proceeding from the assumption that the Russians are still using systems from the 1980's, like, they are. But those old Soviet analog radars are in museums now. Or scrapped. Ukraine ain't North Vietnam, circa 1969-70.
Yeah they are replacement for old Su-24 - which Ukraine now has like 4 left or maybe 2. Still Ukraine did loose these to Russian long range attacks. We know in last three weeks at least two UA aircraft were lost as 2 pilots were reported dead... well I guess it could also be on the ground.
They've been using AGM-88s but not with anything like their full functionality. You can jury rig them onto a Mig or a Sukhoi but it does not allow access to all their operating modes like it would on a NATO aircraft.@@jamesowen4938
Yes! This comparison is to the MIG-29 for a reason: the F-16s Ukraine is getting are better than what they have *now* and better suited to the jobs their aircraft need to do.
READ ONLY IF U WANNA KNOW FACTS...
U got the F-16's range wrong... MiG-29 has a range of 1500km without fuel tanks and f-16 has about the same range without fuel tanks also BUT 4,220km is with fuel tanks!! .... Also u got the seat's wrong both F-16s and MiG-29s are available in both a twin seat (tandem configuration) and a single seat configuration... Also as F-16 was developed from the Ground UP, SO was THE MIG-29 (it is not a derivative of a MIG-17!!!).
Now, from the photos which are being circulated it can be seen that the F-16s are from Romania, that is... they are F-16MLU variants (price per unit : 38million usd) vs MiG-29S (price per unit : 20-25 million usd)... nice nice BUT ill tell you the INTERESTING prat... Russia isn't using any MiG-29s in the war only 😆 . So, what even is the point of this video... the F-16s will only help Ukraine defend their skies (not establish air dominance) the only edge of F-16 against a Su-35S (their actual enemy) is their AIM-120s, not their radar (unlike any other conflict involving F-16s, this time the APG-68 (range : 297 Km)wont be the best fighter radar in the conflict as the Russian N035 Irbis-E (range :400 Km) simply out preforms the reputed APG-68 BUT WAIT!!! this is more to it 🖐. The F-16s which Ukraine is getting are F-16MLUs, They don't even have the APG-68 radars, they have even older APG-66(v2)s (range : 55.6 Km)... this means that the Russians will be detecting them about 344 Km before the F-16s getting to know about their presence (Note: no data link ha been used in this scenario). So even the advantage of AIM-120 goes away (not entirely but a significant portion does).
SO, my final conclusion of the the question " CAN F-16s GIVE UKRAINE THE EDGE IN THE BATTLEFIELD ? " is... NO (at lest F-16 MLUs wont as they'll be 4th gen fighters going up against 4++ gen fighters)
AGREED!!!!!!!!!! the analysis is on point though the F-16s offer defense, but face challenges against superior Russian jets like those you mentioned 🛡✈
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Agreed
F-16s will not face old Mig-29s in Ukraine, but Su-35s and Mig-35s as well as Sukhoi 57s!
Correct. CRUX fishing for mouse clicks and monetization return
Ain't no damn 57s in Ukraine 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
57 does not exist
@@o_k9211 Because it is not visible on NATO radars? That's its feature. It is out there destroying whatever is left of the Ukro AF
It will likely more in danger to surface to air missiles.
It's not about the jet It's about the pilot
Then whats the point will take 6 months before they know what all the buttons do :P
These days i think its more about the radar and munitions than either pilot or plane. Lets send the best!
Wasn't that line from Top Gun Maverick 😂😂
Finally a showdown we been waiting for since the cold war❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Speak for yourself please. Not everyone derives fun from war.
@@fresh6993 not everyone but so many like me
All you are going to hear is propaganda 😂
If you think that's a game, go to the trenches and fight.
@@einmensch4040 there are Ukranians and Russians doing that already, I am just a spectator & no side I am taking
F - 16 will be same like Leopards tanks.
Every piece of equipment has vulnerabilities, and the Leopard is no exception. I had no illusions that there would be Leopard losses. They are however better protected than the T72/80/90. The Abram’s will eventually fall as well. That’s war, it’s not a fucking game.
@patrickday1816 I know bro it's war not game, just western media says this tank is super and very protective smth smth smth like this shit talkings like Merkava they always said that Merkava is no1 tank and said some unbelievable things, but we are seeing that 1 rpg rocket is enough to blow them up, bro just remember that f - 16 will be the same like other Western equipments.
Ukraine's air space has the right to defend itself
Certainly. But with their own resources. If they don't have them, then why have they entered into this conflict when they could have come to an agreement?
@@martinskorepa798 how can Ukraine enter a conflict when Ukraine was violently invaded by a neighbouring country ???
@@thevoiceofingratesby going against the neighborhood! If your decision brings a threat to my existence; you are my target for sure.
@@thevoiceofingrates Well just like Syria, Cuba, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia etc never "Directly" entered into the war with US but in the name of freedom they were got dragged into the war yeah just like that Russia has full right to protect their national interest.
@@Aj-vj9ezbut finland and Sweden get a pass 😂👍
Ah yes finally, the showdown they were both made for...in a sense.
The Viper should be able to hold its own. But it’s only as deadly as the pilot is.
😆 thinking about what's left of Russia's airforce
Who are you kidding buddy Russia has plenty of aircraft still in stock.18 F16's is not going to change anything in this war
@zaccaria9769 Then why have they done such a piss poor job throughout the entire war?
Have you looked at a map or a calendar the last 2 years?
@@rogerwilco5918 You have no idea what you are talking about. Firstly the Russian AF was deadly to the Ukromaniacs in the past 6 months. Secondly, the only real threat to the Russian AF in this war was ground to air, not the Ukromaniacal airplanes. Inform yourself before you comment
@gdiwolverinemale4th have you looked at a map or a calendar lately???
Remember the time we went to the opposite side of the planet and whipped the 4th largest army in the world in just a few weeks because we has air superiority?
I would think the biggest issue will be to keep the planes from being hit and destroyed on the ground.
F-16 would win against Mig-29 every time…
depending what MiG version and what missile setup
The Russians won't be using Mig29s to shoot the F16s out of the sky lol
The Russians will be hiding from F16s, like they do in Syria
The Russians don't have anything to shoot down those incoming F-16's. It certainly won't be any of their jets. It won't be any of their air-defense systems either. Those F-16's will first fly with HARM missiles to take out any SAMS. Two years and Russia still couldn't achieve air superiority. Once those F-16's arrive Russia will stop flying any of their jets all together.
Don't spoil the propaganda. These people genuinely believe that there will be air to air combat and F-16's will be shooting Russian air assets out of the sky. When in reality the majority of Ukrainian and Russian jets have been downed by ground to air AA systems. People literally think reality is like Top Gun. When it's not. It's ok though, reality will kick in eventually.
They won't even be using Su-34s. They'll be using a conjunction of air defense and AWACS.
F16>>>>>>>>Su57
😂
Joke of the year 😂
It will be in a scenario between the Leopard tanks and the T-90M battle tanks
Lenski will pilot F16 himself with the member he plays the piano...
Who?
Ukraine said MiG 29 is flying coffin😅😅😅
Ukraine says many things... when instructed to
@@esQmothe F16 is the most purchased fighter in the world
@@corvanna4438 sold by a non-stop warring nation that survives via selling war things.
@@corvanna4438your point is?
@@esQmoukraine said that bz Ukraine lost 33 mig 29👍
Hope those blokes take good care of them, dont do no dumb risky missions
It will depend on what missiles they are equipped with
If its true, then the parts will be coming from Japan and could be the most main value for the F-16 fighter jets..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
There is not a Russian built fighter able to match the F16.
Say we sit back and watch the show, instead of pulling bs from the rear end🍿
Best comment ever @@Findout66
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Bro seems like still under the TOP GUN movie effect....LOL...Dude this isn't movie anymore get back to the real world
@@Findout66 the F16 has numerous kills against Russian built fighters.
Error at 4:25… Russia hasn’t operated MiG-19’s since 1972 and doubt they were armed with tactical nukes. 👎
Mig-29 operated recently from Russians only aircraft carrier
@@dosa2990 pay attention. Video indicated “MiG-19” not MiG-29.
@@dosa2990irrelevant to HollywoodMarine0351’s observation on CRUX’s error stating MiG-19’s.
With a skilled pilot, the F16 is potent. This will give valuable insights for both Russia and USA. Both sides will then adapt and improve.
Anything to say about the latest generation of air to air missiles that both airframes would use?
they won"t have skilled pilots, they will have hastily trained pilots that have had minimum training on F16's (unless you think NATO pilots are going to be in those jets)
problem is that i consider russian pilot in general better than american....
L'armée de défense russe avec les s-500 triomphe et leurs mobilités correctement déployés,feront la différence face à l'agresseur occidental.
@@RDAMASIOsure, but it takes years, hell even decades to truly master the aircraft and fully understand what it is and isn’t capable of.
A 2010 study reported an F16 kill ratio of 92 :13 vs Mig 29 of 16:28. Pretty clear which is top dog
3:11 Germany doesn't have their Mig 29s anymore that it inherited from the former East Germany. It was all sold to Poland during the 2000s.
Poland sent the German MIG-29's to Ukraine in 2022 and 2023
Let’s take it like this, as competent as the f16 is Ukrainian pilots only have less than a year to train and master everything, experience still counts Russia has pilots that have been flying these S-U fighter jets for years decades I will say and that’s got to be considered
It’s like a bringing a motogp racer to come drive the redBull formula 1 racing car against the rest of the field and only has a couple of months to prepare, Yh the RB19 is dominant but it will still take more than the car to beat the other drivers in the other cars because they have more experience about driving a formula 1 car. Does it make sense?
If US or Nato fighter pilots are the ones piloting them then it will be a different game all together
The Russian Fighter pilots have been drilling holes in the sky, meanwhile the Ukrainians have been actually working down on the deck for over a year with just what, 7-9 losses this past year?
@@linusa2996Most of Ukrainian Air Force was destroyed in March 2022. READ! LEARN! Then speak.
@duchovicius5520 most of the Ukrainian Air Force moved a day before the first bombs arrived. Almost all of the planes that were destroyed were those that were being used for spare parts and the few that were being repaired. We know this because of where and how they were parked. Learn then speak.
Lol, why would you assume they would only face one type of fighter if they ever actually got deployed?
Seems the versions received from the Netherlands are a/b. Not the newer ones say c/d. But these could be delivered at a later stage.
The MLU (mid-life upgrade) that the older Dutch planes has received makes them very close to Block 50/52 standards.
F-16s have a huge advantage, Ukraine's C/D Block52UGs are JTAC (Joint Terminal Attack Controller) enabled, and can draw upon any NATO missile system in Ukraine to facilitate its mission
F16s don't fly themselves and will be vulnerable in the hands of inexperienced pilots
@@radovan739Shouldn’t you be fighting the Bosnians?
@@user-om1rb2ig8z Everyone concludes Ukrainian pilots are just average guys plucked off the street and told they will now be F-16 pilots and sent to train. A naive assumption, nobody should make, the least off all Russia, but will anyway, much to their own peril.
they not getting C/D Block52 F16s they get A/B F16
@@jetfighter200 The MLU designation denotes a build out to F-16 C/D Block 50/52 capabilities, for all intents and purpose these are C/D block 52s
Mig29 is not in production 😅😅
But F16 ,still producing🤩🇺🇸
lol .... Mig 29 has been upgraded and is now produced as Mig 35. Inform yourself
@@gdiwolverinemale4th 😹😹😹only 6 mig 35 built
@@RipHamasIslamicTerrorists So what? Those 6 Mig 35s are sufficient to take out all of the 18 F16s the Ukromaniacs are going to get
@@gdiwolverinemale4th 😹😹😹😹nice joke😹😹😹
1 F16 can down all 6 mig 35😹
russia is producing mig-35 ever heard of that..??
It's not always the plane, but the pilot.
They should compare the SU-34 to the F-16. You should compare the escort to the fusion.
The F16 will not fight any Russian fighter jet or plane. With its excellent radar capabilities it will execute long range missile fights against helicopters, artillery, ships etc.
Question is, even with it's long range can it survive against longer ranged SAM systems?
@@dosa2990 Down low (below 1000 ft) the radars of the long range SAM's can only see out to 85km, (45.6 Nautical Miles). At 500ft it's 63.4km (34.2NM), at 100ft it's down to 35.2km or 19.2NM. And since it can't shoot what it can't see....
forget about ships because I really doubt about that F16 can't get close to Crimea because of AD systems
@@dosa2990you haven’t had any answers yet!?😆😆Your S400 missile defense complex in Crimea was been destroyed by a modest long range standoff weapons like Storm Shadow by UK and France Scalp-EG taahahahaaa 😆😆
@@gerard02700you’re so clueless ignorant oblivious about its capabilities and how western weapons operates
Russias black sea fleet doesn’t stand a chance against an F16 with longer range standoff weapons mostly South Korea do have this weapons coming from old US Air Force stockpiles
Never seen such wrong information...
❤❤❤ it also depends on the " Aviator " and his or her experience ❤❤❤
When comparing two aircraft do the pilots do their training and experience make any difference.?
Don't underestimate a Flanker, especially some of the latest variants
Same russian garbage
Don't underestimate a MIG, especially some of the latest variants
they're getting outdated crap, only the US has the latest versions
@@hatty101 they should be underestimated. Would drop like flies against any modern western airforce
@@liamartinproductions they (The Flankers ) should be underestimated. Would drop like flies against any modern Russian/Chinese airforce
everything in this is over 2 years old, rofl wtf. crux just get a new song or person???
Most of it boils down to who got the best pilots
I wonder if pilots trained for a few months on a new aircraft can beat pilots training for years on their airframe.
Pilots skill is what counts here.
I think dogfights are rare. F-16 will be used in attacking high value ground and naval targets. I doubt if Ukraine will risk F-16 against Russian Migs when Ukraine anti-air system is doing a good job.
😂😂😂😂😂Which good job? You must be a comedian.
The F16 will be caught on radar, what comes next will be a bloodbath .
@@paschalchidozie5823yes 2 years of wars z army still can’t control the sky wat a shame for the second best army in the world 😂😂😂
Pootin declared that patriot system will be legitimate target but already give up after failed to destroy not one bit last year and now he's declared that F-16 will be legitimate target lmao 😂😂😂
How many Patriot systems are there in Ukraine? Perhaps you need to know that the US has asked Japan to make some ... cause there are not any available to send to Ukraine
@@gdiwolverinemale4th ruzzia tried to warn and threaten japan for transfer patriots system but in exchange, just give back some northern islands for japan as good deals and won’t transfer them to ukraine,right? nice try,ruzzia bots lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@@indrahaseo Well, since Japan is a US vassal state nobody in Russia had any expectations the Patriot deal would not go ahead. Equally, Russia will keep the islands. They are slightly more valuable than the Patriot trash, aren't they? Poor Japan, so close to the nuclear armed NK and so far from its master, the US
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Ruzzia afraid that patriots system will be increased more than before and ruzzia have lost 200+ aircraft since invasion of ukraine lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Ukraine's air space has the right to defend itself
There is necessary to add technical parameters and not just data from the general description.
It's not Plane that makes difference its the pilot...and his experience
And thats why Australia > India in cricket. Lol.
And the Ukraine pilots have very little training on these airframes vs the highly experienced RF pilots .
Unless the SU-35 has some type of Stealth Radar, the F-16 RWR will alert the F-16 Pilot, and he'll take action, the Ukrainians know how the russians will fight, if the Ukrainian Pilots get Western Training, their knowledge of russian Tactics may give the F-16 Pilot an advantage, but it's always up to the training of the pilot and the use of Tactics.
No dude in the red flag exercises between India and Us, India and Uk India's su 30 mki outdid their counterparts in an embarrassing scoreline. The jets the American used were f16, f 15 and the UK their typhoon..
@@user-pn8nc8pr3z That was Cope India
dude what year was this ?@@user-pn8nc8pr3z
@@user-pn8nc8pr3z The US weren't using their classified radars in that exercise.
@@dennisp.2147and they'll offer such classified radar to Ukraine?? Lol
The F-16 are all going to get an update from the manufacturer itself. So related to radar and other parts they would be far more capable then the F-16s variant. I guess they've done this to fight against the latest SU-35 variant and still be able to reach air superiority... I personally don't think that they are going to fight mainly against MiG-29 even if they have roughly the same size.
With this latest updates, the needed weaponry and trained pilots I bet on F-16.
Happy new year.
No matter how many jets will the UrkNazi regime gets, their country is continuing to be the #1 SHITHOLE country in the world... dethroning Afghanistan after 20 years... their land is being used a weapons testing site.
Good for you
which hollywood movie is that..??
If you believe they are going to send a block 70 f16 to Ukraine you're fooling yourself.
It all sounds really good to have the F-16s in this war until the last statement popped up.
Wonderful air battle
How the F-16 does will depend on the variant they are given. If they've recieved all but the very latest upgrades, it's easily on par to the Su-35 radar & missiles as well.
If it had the most advanced upgrades,(pretty sure only the U.S. has this) it would be superior to the Su-35 and possibly even the Su-57.
Anyway, with the latest upgrades, it then falls to pilot skills. Of which ruZZia has lost the majority of it's best pilots at this time.
Note all the comparisons in RUclips videos, most seem to compare the original non upgraded F-16 A.
All European countries that promised F-16 have the MLU model, so block 20. Modernization took place in the 2000s. They are machines at the limit of their useful life. Belgium has already refused to deliver F-16s because they are no longer safe to operate. Against them is a generation newer SU aircraft with a much better radar and AA missiles.
@omegaz3393 ucraina va trimite tractoriști la arat pentru că nu vor mai ara pământul cu tractoarele, le va ara cu f16🤣🪦🤣
Well, you're still a connoisseur if you compare the f-16 with the Su-35 and Su-57
@@uplifting777uplifting9 I am comparing it with what they can meet in Ukraine, they will not meet MIG-29 there, Russia does not use them in the war in Ukraine. they use there SU-30/35 and marginally SU-57. These are the adversaries that will stand against the F-16 MLU.
@@KorbenDalasCZ
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The F16 has a better radar system so in essence it will see the approaching enemy before they are aware, depending on the missiles deployed be it AMRAAM or AIM9 the latter has a very good range to intercept ratio.
Кого он там увидит? МиГ 29, 35? Они не участвуют на фронте. А радары Су 35с, и Су-30см2 сами увидят кого угодно, к тому же там Су 57 и а50 со своим радаром
This might have been true in 1985, but it's not true now. Furthermore, the F-16s will be forgotten, when everybody moves on to the next flash in the pan.
@@Vadim-gi4sg The SU-35's don't seem to like to come to the front, preferring to snipe from afar.
Wonder how much more cautious they are given the Ukrainian's habit of sneaking a Patriot system into missile range to take a shot at the Russian air assets
What? Su-35 has massive advantage in radar - we are talking here about old radar on F-16s vs. actual digital radar on Su-35s or an actual super modern array on Su-57. Both Su also have longer ranged missiles - and have support from both ground and airborne radars.
@@tomk3732 The model they are getting has a range of 60-80km during heavy jamming. the RWR and radar are mated to an IFF module with a range of 100nm.
The question is "What block is in the F-16"???
These fighters will likely not engage in dogfights but will engage beyond visual range.
Military expert sean penn said one squadron of F-16s will beat Russia. The actor has watched too many Hollywood movies.
Copy and paste number 34568. Can't wait till the next Hindustan video to read it yet again!
@@beaur252 Shut up dude! You have better thing to do with your life than being a RUclips warrior
Putin said that to ur mommy😂😂
He hasn't watched too many Hollywood movies he's done waaaaay to much alcohol and drugs. His face and body looks like it doesn't know where it's at, what's it doing and why it's still alive.
@@RipHamasIslamicTerrorists Wise people speak because they have something to say, you speak because you have to say something stupid.
Some F16s already destroyed even before taking a flight
What the kremlin already saying probably.
Nonsense. Firstly no Mig 29s will be used for this purpose and secondly even if they are the fight would be beyond visual range. Missiles decide, not the delivery platforms
It got alot to do with how good the Pilots are.
Only Pakistan Air Force PAF know the art of flying F-16❤
But indian old mig-21s shot down Pakistani F-16. How was that possible 🤔
@@prabalkumarsamanta8333 because the Indian pilot is skilled and took the advantage when the F-16s withdrew, and possibly shot down one, but was shot down by another F-16, but for SU-30MKI, the SU-30MKI were targeted in BVR, but the main differences is that the SU-30MKI had a large rcs in the F-16 MLU’s radar, while the MiG 21 bison which was upgraded, possibly had a smaller rcs than the SU-30MKI.
@@danielxiong7227 The comment about the MiG-21 was that it was hard to pick out when head on.
@@prabalkumarsamanta8333 It's in Indian media only
@@prabalkumarsamanta8333 The whole world has seen Indian pilot Abhi Nandan and his crashed jet.... rest are stories...
Remember Flight MH17 sir Putin? Here is our answer. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱👌🏻
Migs? What is this Top Gun circa 1986 lol 😂
The only relevant question here is who is gonna be piloting the f16s and where are they gonna be taking off from
Russian pilot are battle tested! the fly there jet fighter for decade! Ukraine pilot doesn't know how to fly those plane given by the U.S it takes a year to manipulate those plane and they only took one month of training! REST IN PEACE for the Ukrainian Pilot.
They've been training for about 3 months, roughly the length of time for a conversion course for a pilot going from one jet to the F-16.
Ahem: The amount that America has spent so far to help Ukraine defend itself (spilling THEIR blood) is TRIVIAL, a small rounding error on the yearly military budget, perhaps 3% for the last two years, almost all of which is spent on paying American defense contractors who themselves are paying high salaries to American workers to backfill America’s still-bulging weapons stores with the latest & greatest of America’s newest military innovations. For that tiny cost, Ukraine has virtually smashed huge quantities of Russian military equipment which is otherwise a standing threat against Europe & regions all around Russia’s massive exterior borders. The Republicans who are entirely standing in the way of us helping Ukraine now (and in even greater amounts) are literally traitors against America’s most vital geopolitical interests. Ronald Reagan, the standard bearer of the Republican Party for the last 4 plus decades, would throw these schmucks under the bus so hard for what they’re doing to help KGB-controlled Russia that many of them would immediately resign. I say this as someone who studied Government & Politics of the Soviet Union/Russia as my collegiate major along with history (which so many people know almost none of and/or simply ignore to their detriment). Please call your Congresspeople & Senators & feel free to say what I said above.
probably not both sides have a substantial anti air defenses
Thats how i can trust over the Crux news
The F16s will be able to see a Su30,34,35 at about 190km away if it has the new radar.
With the AMD 120d longe range missiles that hit a target up to 180km away.
The F16 will be able to take full advantage of the Harm Anti Radiation missiles and destroy S400, S300 radars from 90km away. It will be able to carry the 4 Harpoon for anti ship warfare with a 180km range.
The only missile that it won't fire would be the JASSMS unless the US gives Ukraine these stealthy missiles
with a 350km to 1000km range!
We already saw that in 30 August 2021,invincible farmers and Goatherders beat the almighty Nato in 20 years of war.
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@@mdbadrulalam9787but ussr collapsed after they lost in Afghanistan with more casualties. 😅
@@JLMoto999and USA already lost to Vietnam n Afghanistan also..it seems all comment here talk about supremacy f16 fighter jet n once again the Russian can wipe out that jet
@@mohdizzulasmawimusa1342 russia lost more soldiers in 1 year in ukraine then the u.s in Vietnam. Lmao weak ahs country😂🤣😂🤣😂
Im affraid not for myself because i always will be ok with my resources but for people that were ok with escalation of this war . Happy newyear to the thousands to wich this will be not easy year this year .
Its the pilots experience. F-16 is reliable and agile, the mig-29 is not a joke.
Those overhyped so called F16 got shot down over Serbia by old generation SAM systems.
They must be kidding by thinking to come out alive after flying against S400
F-16 from 1980s is better than any new Russian planes made in 2020s
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Only air to air and ground to air combat will determine that. Stay tuned. If the F-16 is anything like the other western imported weapons it isn't super-powered and can be easily destroyed. Just like any other piece of equipment.
Its better in hollywood only
@fadhilamour836 nah, Russian airplanes were always bad. Where did they even see action? Russian newest 2020s weapons, have quality of the western weapons of the 1970-80s.
Got any facts to back that up? Or are you just shit talking
The way I see it, it’s not the plane that makes the pilot, it’s what the pilot can do with the plane
F16 🙏💪🇺🇦🇺🇲♥️👍👏
The aim will not be a fight in the sky, it will be dropping bombs on enemy targets. Thats why they requested SCALP, Stormshadow and Taurus missiles. Ukraine intends to use them as bombers. If they wanted dogfights, they would have requested F22s which can drop MiGs from the sky like pigeons.
F16 as bombers? It is equip to carry a small nuclear weapon. That's the only bomb they can carry. The Su24 is a better bomber than the F16 can ever be and Ukraine already lost all of what thet had. The F22 is only good at shooting down weather balloon. Don't even mention those fat ass f35. Only good when they fighting third world countries.
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Like every other failed gsme changer the Russion Federation will show the F16’s whos got the best pilots behind the best weapons.
@@ctherats6023 F16s are not game changers, but they will drastically improve Ukraines airpower. If they can drop enough bombs on the front line to cause the Russians to retreat or take out missiles in the air to avoid them hitting their targets, then they would have been used well. If its airpower NATO wanted to project on Russia, they would have given Ukraine F35s and B2 bombers.
Yes, general
LMAO, there are only about 80 functional F22s left, and it's a hangar queen anyway.
Maybe 300 F-16 combined with few F-22, global hawks, reapers, awacs and AH-64's would be making some difference. Dozen of F-16 definitely will not. Closer to global thermonuclear war.
Just a reminder, the USAF has requested that 124 of it's F-16's be "retired" to reduce maintenance, support and operating cost. I wonder if someone, somewhere is looking for some F-16's with the latest RCS reduction coatings
We will never know the outcome until those super duper coated f-16 in those numbers start flying over UKR. My believe is that someone with good integrated aerial defense should not worry about any number of planes. It is much much cheaper to produce a SAM then fighter jet or a bomber. If you have enough resources and manpower it's much easier to defend themselves then attack. So far US attacked weak opponents in their direct and proxy wars, no one even close to RU. I am not military expert but RU have a pretty large stockpile of SAM's at their disposal.
F-16 and Mig-29 already faced each other several times before and the F-16 always came out as winner. End of the story.
Cope. mig best
I would have thought the weapons the F16 fires (built-in guidance and AI) would play a bigger role than the plane which releases the weapon.
And F-16s that belonged to Scandinavian countries don't have the longest-range and latest missiles integrated.
Some errors here. Germany sold all Mig-29s to Poland. It is pilot skill more than the jets. The F-16 is better in many ways to the MiG-29 in terms of range, missiles, radar, etc. The F-16s can 'see' the SU-35 far off and need not engage in a dog fight. The MiG-29s have long stopped production while Lockheed still manufactures the F-16s. No Russian jet can ever match US aircraft like the F-22 Raptor, F-35 Lightning, etc.
Yank technology always prevails !
Tanks beg to differ
lol .... all the Yank technology has been defeated in this war. Ukromaniacs are fighting mostly with Russian weapons as it is more reliable. The talk about the US supremacy in anything but money printing or public brainwashing is becoming more ridiculous by the day
Imagine still thinking that all westoid things are better just because they are westoid 😂
lol,,su-35 would see f-16 before f-16 could ever realize there is a russian flanker in the air,secondly they are armed with the longest rane air-to-air missile which outranges anything us has of the same type by far
LOL, the F35 is a bad joke
The F-16 is way more susceptible to fod damage and the air frame is not as resilient as the MiG-29 which would actually be the 35 now. Also the 35 would have dual power plants another thing that Ukraine would benefit from as opposed to using the American platform.
In this war it's going to come down to more than what's on the paper. It's going to come down to actual maintenance and resilience of the air frame and the f-16 is completely lacking in this regard
FOD damage yes, but the F16 airframe is just as resilient as the MIGs, it has to be to be able to do what it does. The US tends to make really reliable and tough equipment. We also place a priority on maintaining said equipment so we don’t run into the same problems the Russian equipment had in the first year of the war which was poorly maintained trucks and other stuff. The big question is whether the ground crews will be able to properly execute western level maintenance in a short period of time.
@@patrickday1816 That's what I'm talking about as far as air frame resilience. It's a single engine fighter jet and so if it sucks up something off of a dirty runway which Ukraine doesn't have very many clean runways or if they have to operate off of improvised runways that jet is screwed. If it picks up even a single rock you cannot take off the MiG-29 had flaps over the intake, That's why it has the lovers at the top above the intake. It breathes through those when it's operating on dirty air strips also if one engine were fouled and a modern warfare she could at least get the missiles airborne.
F16 landing gear is not as robust as the mig-29s or the mid 35s. It's just simply not
Fuel capacity and range are not on par with the mig 29s.
Compatibility with the equipment that they have again is something that the F-16 is defeated on in a country such as Ukraine.
The air frame as far as the wings spar. Yes, I mean it can pull the g's and everything else that's required and structurally component wise, as far as the ribs and all the other components of the air frame, they're in there quite well. She did meet military standard in the USA. I will give you that but as far as being a resilient good to go air frame for a country that surrounded by an enemy that doesn't really have maintained airstrips or well trained ground crew.
You couldn't get worse of an aircraft to send to them in a modern airframe.
Proof of point is that who owned the F-16, the US Air Force or the US Marine corps??
Operational differences between the two force as far as NATO doctrine and military doctrine of the United States?? What air frame do you think they should have sent? Ukraine I'll give you a hint. It has a twin engine. It was just recently redesigned into a super h@rn3t?? Lmfao
Also, I'm glad they didn't get that bir because she's one of my personal favorites right behind the f4
And we haven't even gotten into the maintenance hours required per hour of flight into the equation nor some of the other time to get components
And also what the Russians did in one year is simply remarkable. It took the USA since Blackhawk down halfway into the Iraqi war to even upgrade the Hummer 15 years later
I forgot to mention their operational budget also allowed for this, which is just quite remarkable. They were able to get the whole Air Force back online. Put new aircraft into production, revitalize their bombing fleet and everything within one year. Spending about a 10th on the defense budget and without politicians picking fights with every small sheep herding country in the world
I also forgot to add the NATO billionaires that were raping and murdering the children of Ukraine prior to the Russians going in there. So to me it's a rescue mission and I don't care who's performing it
The USA could have, but when those girls would be knocking on the gates when we were overseas we were told to turn them away because they didn't have their passport. But I can't recall too many kidnapping victims. That said they grabbed their paperwork right before the man grabs them
The cooperation between F16 and Patriot make the difference.
@@maritaschweizer1117 in this conflict it won't make the least bit of difference is not 1980. It's not even 2003. The world of first person drones that the patriot cannot shoot down the overwhelming air superiority that Russia has over. Ukraine and hypersonics are going to basically mitigate any advantage that the patriot missile system used to have.
With the Patriot missile system, you don't have to get in there with a full-size missile to blow it up. The first person drone was just enough charge and altitude next to the main charge of the tubes of the missiles. The patriot holds will yield enough ballistic response to wipe out the Patriot missile system and everything on the battlefield in Ukraine is known. Russian intelligence has come online and has come online big time rivaling that of the USA.
@@gsc512 I also watch Russian TV from time to time and listen that nonsens but in opposite to you I only belive in facts. With the small drones you mentioned you can have only short range effects. UKraine also increses the drone production to more than a million in 2024.
Lee Trevino said “It’s not the arrow, it’s the Indian”. He was talking about golf clubs but is appropriate here.
Depend on pilot skill
The SU 35 ‘may be able to target and destroy an F16 before its pilot even knows it’s there’.
That might be a problem!
Keyword here is "May". Doesn't mean it "can" for sure. And we know how Russia exaggerates its claims.
Su35s have not done well in the war. The combat record of the F16 is much better.
Su 35 can't even safely fly in its own occupied areas of Ukraine
@@corvanna4438the combat record of the f86 during the Korean war was very good that means it is best the US sends them to Ukraine 👍😉
@@emmanuelatiegha9049 then in Vietnam the F4 dominated, plus it dominated for Israel against Egypt and Syria. The F15 is 104 to 0. The F14 dominated Libya and Iraq, even those used by Iran. No Russian built fighter has performed well against American built fighters in real combat.
Ukraine clearly has the right to defend itself
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Ukraine as the right to defend it self point is day will never win again Russia people should stop dreaming just wasting soldier lives all for the sake of America and it Western countries
block 72 F-16 and the newest MiG29 upgrade (called 35) are pretty even, but SU-35,57 def not
The Block 72 has the new fuel tanks and AESA radar right?
"it's the pilot not the plane..don't think ...just do it !" ...Top Gun Maverick...
Actually, that does not hold true anymore. It is the radars and rockets that decide the outcome of a dogfight
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Pilot's skill has a say in determining if he/she can evade the missile (yes, you can evade missiles, they are not magic "I win" weapons), how well you can use the terrain to mask themselves, how they employ their own weapons.
That has not changed since Manfred von Richthofen told his pilots, "The quality of the box matters little. Success depends upon the man who sits in it".
@@pogo1140 Cut down on watching DCS. If the missile does not hit, there were advantageous circumstances for the target. Automation does everything. The only person that can screw up is the attacker if he launches outside the optimal parameters
@gdiwolverinemale4th that's not from watching DCS. The fact that the effective range of the inbound missile changes depending on your direction of travel should tell you that math, angles, line of sight, drag all have a say. The pilot's skill in using that and his aircraft can determine the outcome.
@@pogo1140 Sure thing. Except, the human brain cannot calculate any of what you talk about. Pilots do not even know what direction the missile comes from. Also, there are not any real combat scenarios where such calculations are required. Yes, pilots are told about the possibilities but then instructed to use simplistic maneuvers to hopefully avoid being hit. Nothing beyond that. Luck plays a crucial role in avoiding missiles, which does not mean there are many happy endings. One side usually has a significant technological advantage. In all, Top Gun is fiction and DCS is just a simulator.
SU 35 and S 400 are going to have an easy kill without even entering Ukranian airspace
5 su-35 already destroyed by ukrainian air defense for first time in ukraine since invasion of ukraine lol 🤣🤣🤣
@@indrahaseosource: ukranian mod
@@madanbisht6 ruzzian media completely controlled by pootin's dictatorship throughout Ruzzia🤣🤣🤣
@@indrahaseoit is su 34,not su35 lmao..su34 operate low altitude n their functions like a small bomber..that's why it easy to attack from ground..n once again the Russian will eliminate f16
@@mohdizzulasmawimusa1342 yeah yeah nice try, ruzzian bots lmao
If it wasn’t for Russia 🇷🇺 everyone would be speaking German by now. The least you could say is thank you
Those were the Soviets
@@againstviralmisinformation510 which was mostly consisted of Russians commanded by Russia????
@@timminh468 it was commanded by the Soviets and yes most of the people in the army were ethnic Russians because get this, the majority of the population was ethnic Russian. Why do you think still Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and etc celebrate victory day
@@againstviralmisinformation510 I thought Ukraine stopped celebrating victory day after the war began.
Would be much richer, but poor like Russia and its former satellite states
Let the battle start. Who will win? I already know who's the winner.
Israeli F-16 have no problem getting past Russian/Syrian anti aircraft systems like the S-300/400.
Though I do not believe Ukraine will not have enough F-16s to actually make a difference.
Российский истребитель собъет его, пилот Ф16 даже не поймёт что произошло.
Something bot would say
An F-16 with AIM 120’s are a deadly threat to SU-35 and SU-30, even with American pilots that are volunteers, Russian pilots would be toast, because they don’t have an exercise or training skills like American pilots because western pilots trained in red flag.
Zelensky didn't try to prevent this conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity.
In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas.
If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy.
Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements.
Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time.
Russia's national security was compromised once nato began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining nato was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns.
20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and nato.
NATO is not a defensive alliance. Nato illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter).
We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.
Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster?
Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest.
Zelensky also tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland.
Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed.
Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”.
Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it.
Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country.
Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. (13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list.)
Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list.
There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas. (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence).
The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave.
Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) RIP.
The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims).
The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter.
I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion.
I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written.
Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.
Copy and paste number 34568. Can't wait till the next Hindustan video to read it yet again!
I hope you're getting well paid for spreading this around - or at least you get a free pass from not being forced into a meat wave attack.
The number of ethnic Russians fighting for Ukraine against Russia proves these claims false.
@@corvanna4438 Everything I said has been fact checked and verified.
@@JulianGlynn-dg1oc Wise people speak because they have something to say, you speak because you have to say something stupid.
Click bait. There's no F16 deployed yet.
Sources?
Except MiG-29 wasn't used by Russia in Ukraine at all. For fighter duties they use Flankers and Foxhounds. Su-35S and MiG-31BM are plain scary, Su-30SM is dangerous as hell. And possibly might get blown out of the sky by a Su-57. And Russians are supported by A-50U Mainstay which were upgraded to a very high standard.
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Russia will come on top no matter what..❤
F-16 against Flanker variants. Not Mig29
....when your gift planes are so old you cant compare them to modern planes.....
it's not the plane or fighter jets, it's the pilots who will handle these aircraft in the air battle. what's the use if you have a great fighter plane, but if the pilot doesn't know how to handle it?
It nearly always comes down to the pilot. An experienced vet can take out a jet generations ahead of someone who's more inexperienced
F16s gon have a ball with those Migs n SUs