Let me just say that if you are one of those upset because I spoke out against the wrong being done here, against bullying and poor behavior, and in support of the Hayes... then the problem here isn't me. Until we all stand against horrible behavior and things like this being done to them it will continue. Silence in this case is agreement that the horrible things being done to them is ok.
Unfortunately social media has turn people into hurling accusations without ever knowing the origins of the source. People who live in glass houses like the throw rocks at others.
And it’s so ridiculous because they clearly state Malia has ALOPECIA not cancer and the ridiculous accusations of them shaving her head for money and stuff just make me so mad. Some TikTok-ers are so shitty. They wouldn’t even listen to the people they claim to defend when cast members defended the Hayes family.
Thank you for coming out in support of the Hayes Family. My daughter has a rare disability and she has identified so much with Malia. I am so sad for her, and angry for Malia and the Hayes Family. The messages of positivity and self-love were so empowering for a girl about Malia’a age, struggling to accept the challenges of her life. I want to fight for the Hayes family. They don’t deserve this.
The Hayes Family doesn’t even deserve this. I feel that the world is getting crazier and crazier each day. People have to show kindness to each other. I am visually impaired, I use a white cane to get around. My neighbor commented to me that, “Is Emily using a cane for a science fair project?” It was not nice.
What I find revolting is that that person attacking the Hayes on TikTok for using and abusing Malia and Disney for their own interest is actually doing the same thing, creating buzz and bad buzz over big names to push his own content out there and create views!
I hope the Hayes return someday (on their own terms of course). They've spread so much positivity & they've helped out so many people through their videos. It would be a shame to see them go. On the other hand, I understand becoming disillusioned by this whole ordeal & wanting to bow out. Just an unfortunate & distressing situation all around. It's also very sad that there are some people out there who apparently haven't grown out of the high school bullying phase & want to attack people without knowing the full story.
Thank you for voicing exactly how I'm feeling about this. I saw the Hayes Family video earlier, announcing that they were backing off from RUclips and why. I honestly was in tears for the family; I've always loved their videos.
I was wondering why I haven't seen the Hayes family videos lately. They were truly a blessing on RUclips, as you are as well. I hope they come back. May God bless you and yours.
We LOVE the Hayes family! Walt would be the 1st one to defend this family & would not want these heartless bullies anywhere near his beautiful parks. Thank you George for making us aware of this. 💔😢
My family and I have been watching the Hayes family for several years and we love them and all the videos they make. They have our full support and we hope this is not the end of their adventures.
poor Hayes family, they don't deserve that, poor kid she is probably scared of what has happened. my heart is breaking for them and wish that some people would just grow up and treat another person with respect and kindness. as a survivor of bullying and of both verbal and emotional, I really feel for them and love the few videos I have seen from them
I have never seen a video created by you sir. May I just say Bless you to whatever higher power you may believe in. The Hayes family is one of the last vestiges off wholesomeness I associate with Disney. The Characters and their interactions with Melia give me a touch of hope in this stressful world. You have my thanks!
Thank you for talking about this issue. It really needs to be brought more to light because I love the channel and the videos have helped me through college exams in terms of stress. And the family is the most amazing family that I have ever come across on RUclips. I hope that this issue will go away one day because they don’t deserve the unnecessary hate thrown at them. Thanks again.
Sir...Well said! I was absolutely shocked, saddened and quite frankly, absolutely as mad as I can get when I heard about this. The Hayes Family not only does not deserve this, but they brought joy & light through the darkness of these past couple years for myself. I wish beyond anything that there was something we could all do for them. A petition, anything! I for one would love to thank them personally as I'm sure many would, but I hope that somehow we the supporters can stand together and fight for them. This is is not right!!
Thank you for defending the Hayes family. It disgusted me too. Yeah I'm saddened by this too As a survivor of bullying and of both verbal and emotional abuse. I also have disabilities, too.
Thank you so much for the love, I have been a fan of the Hayes family for awhile and to know that there is still love in this world is awesome. I have already shared my love with them and will again.
I saw the Hayes Family Volg video earlier today it made me angry. I am disgusted that they of all people are the ones to be trashed on the internet. It's sickening and we need to do something about it. Sooner or later, things will NEED to change. They have my support 100%
I agree, sir. They just don't know what they really are. The Hayes family is a family who wants to spread the joy they have and Alopecia awareness. Idk what is going on with people these days, but I hope they would always dig deeper before saying bad things
I am sorry that the Hayes family went through all of that. I always loved seeing Malia on their videos and never thought that they were exploiting her. I hope they are able to come back and ignore the cyperbullying. May God bless them and you and yours.
Sad to hear about the Hayes family. I've seen a lot of their videos, and I've always enjoyed them. They've never come of as people who use/abuse their daughter for their own gain, or the Disney employees.
In all seriousness, the offending vid needs to be removed from TikTok ASAP! My opinion on TikTok was already negative before this but now it’s hit a whole new low. People suck. Especially when they flat out accuse you of something so ridiculous without providing insufficient proof.
I agree with you. They're an amazing family I love watching when they share their journey with everyone. I have a loved one who suffers from it. I love that family and what they stand for.
What an unfortunate story. People running their mouths, when they know nothing. This is unfortunately the way society is trending. It's so sad. The Hayes have always seemed like a beautiful, genuine family. If you actually watched their videos, you can see they don't take advantage and the cast members typically get more love and enjoyment from interactions with their daughter. Much love and good thoughts to the Hayes family 💜🙏
Thank you for this video. The problem is there are a lot of self appointed experts saying things online that they shouldn't. They need to do some research before they open their mouths. When they open their mouths they need to be respectful to others.
Honestly it’s crazy how much bullying happens in the Disney Community of all things. One this is a community of mostly adults, Disney promotes kindness and it’s just plain cruel and immature. It’s one thing to find humor in Disney, Vloggers etc, but another to attack Disney Vloggers. Just nasty spirited people! Really takes away one of the best parts of being apart of the Disney community... kindness!!!
These people need somebody to pray for them. Notice most haters are RARELY if ever, that aggressively mean in real life. It's much easier for them to be a "tough guy" behind a keyboard.
This Tiktoker is blaming Demand-side customers (Disney Vloggers) for a supply side issue (WDW's notoriously strict entertainment department) I think Disney should take some of the more wholesome vloggers under their wing and let them be official content creators for Disney's social media. its win/win.
You know to be honest I don't follow circles that you're in. So I'm really not sure exactly what happened. However I find it really difficult to believe that someone would actually have the nerve to ask you to promote a certain political value. I understand that they were supporting you financially but when you look at your channel you don't promote your own political beliefs. It's pretty presumptuous for them to insist that you promote their political beliefs. That's just rude. Hang in there sirwillow
I feel that one of the reasons for the bullying is that those that posted are jealous, plain and simple. They are jealous of the confidence, rapport, and popularity that Malia and her family has with the cast members. I have seen this happen quite a few times here on RUclips. Someone gets jealous of someone’s rise in popularity so to make themselves look good, they have to start rumors to knock the popularity down a notch or two. To really hit hard, they put it on a social platform where it will spread like wildfire knowing people will join in the band wagon and gain their own following. Karma will come back and kick the posters in the butt.
I was wondering what happened to them! I literally just found their RUclips page a few months ago and have been enjoying the videos and realise they haven’t uploaded anything recently. This sucks. I loved the Hayes Family!
It's sad. The Tik Tok video did NOT say the Hayes Family were bad people. She has a problem with ANY interaction video. She made it clear in the comments that she doesn't think they are bad people, she thinks that interaction videos, even ones made with no ill intent, are problematic. I disagree with her. The problem is the trolls that took her point of view, and made the Hayes family into monsters which she never said. She's actually turned off the comments because the trolls were attacking and doxing Malia. As I've said to her, although I don't know if she's seen it, part of HER problem is she is an ex WDW cast member. Disneyland is a different place, and is obviously not as petty and vindictive to their character performers as WDW. I've gone down a character/Disney rabbit hole the last several months after Viral Queen got recommended to me, and I've seen videos where DLR characters do things that apparently would get them fired at WDW. These characters still work at DLR to this day, one of them, the biggest "breaker" imo, has been there for YEARS, and she still works there. She's going to AGE out before she gets fired for breaking "character integrity". DLR clearly knows what she, and the other characters do in the Hayes videos, and they have NOT been fired. She's actually my 2nd favorite character performer after Viral Queen, she's pretty darn awesome! Going by what this Tik Toker has posted, WDW is still petty and vindictive to character performers, she is still friends with many. Her big blind spot, to me, is her not understanding her WDW experience is not as relevant as she thinks it is to DLR. I do think she can be very unfair.. Her calling out Keith Lapinig was not right, period. She is too laser focused on one issue, and doesn't take in the whole circumstance before spouting off sometimes.
I have a feeling there is a story there behind her notn working anymore. Because even what you've said here doesn't match up with my experiences working with the characters at WDW. :-)
@@SirWillow There does seem to be a common theme I've seen of WDW face characters quitting because of burnout or even quitting to avoid burnout, and I've seen many mentions of toxic management. I never see the same for DLR, as a matter of fact, I can't hardly even find ex DLR face characters at all. It's all WDW. It's even mentioned in the Reddit AMA's I've read about the difference in management style. WDW clearly has more toxic management than DLR. It doesn't mean ALL WDW management is toxic. My understanding is more if the WRONG WDW manager sees certain things you can get in trouble. WDW is such a big place that people like you can work there, and not have a terrible experience, while people like her do. Also, I think a face character would be more prone to be fired capriciously than a photo pass photographer. She basically quit because of burnout, iirc. . Both your experience, and her experience are valid, and obviously different. Her Tik Tok videos are interesting, and I think she is basically honest, but I don't think she is always fair. BTW, she was in a viral video, 17 million views so far. She became friends with the family, and the little girl is a teenager now. ruclips.net/video/5LgDNb4ApEs/видео.html Part of the problem for me is that the world is shades of gray, and she is a little too black and white in some of her opinions, and that's not how the world works. I fully admit I'm just giving an opinion based on me reading this and that, and seeing this and that on the internet. I myself not only have never worked for Disney, I haven't been to Disneyland or even California since I moved to St. Louis in 1980. I actually grew up near Disneyland, and even nearer Knotts Berry Farm.
I have to take back anything nice I said about her. She just blocked me on TikTok without ever addressing a single point I made to her, and I wasn't rude to her either. What a spineless villain. Trying to see how she's any better than the management she complains about.
@@drh3b I kind of had a feeling. There's a lot of what she's said in that video and a couple of others that just doesn't quite line up. She also doesn't seem to understand what the role of a character is in relation to the company, interacting with guests, and video and other footage. Hopefully she can work things through and come to a better place.
@@SirWillow I hope so. I've seen enough of her videos to know that she had some horrible things happen to her there. But, that doesn't justify closing your mind to other's opinions and just facts. She also worked at Universal, which she says was a much better place to work. Yet, she apparently can't comprehend that Disneyland is literally a different company than Disneyworld. Yes, they are obviously owned by the same larger corporation, but they are totally separate companies from each other, and aren't run the same. I have tons of thoughts, but I won't drag your channel down by posting them here. 🙂
I can't even find the Tiktok to know what everyone is even talking about. I hope it was removed and that's why! The Hayes Family have given such a wonderful platform for Alopecia Awareness, Positivity, and Self Love. I've been watching them for years and this is a very sad thing to have happened.
I’m glad someone spoke out about what’s going on with the Hayes family and that poor Malia getting so much hate 😞 it’s not fair they are suffering so much
I actually love Hayes Family because they share lots of positivities. I also happy to see Malia happy. I always rewatch their old videos. I hope they will be back because they are loved by so many people including me
They're now definitely afraid to go back to Disneyland because of all the threats they've been receiving even people have been showing up to their home
I feel so bad for Zach, Ash & Malia, they don't deserve such horrible treatment. Those who have been bullying need to stop and check their actions and should be ashamed of themselves. They need to GROW UP & GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Hayes Fam didn't do anything except try to bring awareness for an ACTUAL CONDITION that affects numerous people and have fun doing it.
I will always defend the Hayes family because alopecia is a very serious condition and that people need to take it serious. It’s sad to see them go through this. This is one of the reasons I dislike tik Tok because of the bullying
ya this world is more and more full of hate :( i feel bad for this family,there beautyful pepole i hope the bullies stop, because this family is the best family ive ever seen,i wanna be part of there family
i love the Hayes family i found their channel when they did all the charther meets at Disney and i just fell in love with their family _< i really hope they come back to youtube, as i dont go on instagram much where they said to keep following them so yeah.... :(
I personally cannot understand why people think they can do things like this to someone who’s never done anything wrong in the first place. I found their channel not too long after I had found yours, both in relation to find information about Disney and character interactions. Seeing their video’s always was a pleasure and to see how much fun they have in the parks. It angers me too that people are so willing to bully and say nasty things to this family, like they have no reason, no true fact to back up their harassment.
I follow the girl who posted the video on tick tok. She’s majorly against any character content being used for profit and views. She feels it takes away from the performers who are friends with the characters. I personally think she’s very jaded because she was a performer herself at one point and clearly seems to have had some rough experiences. I don’t believe that the Hayes Family have done anything wrong. I’ve watched many of their videos and I think they are a sweet family who love Disney and want their child to have normal experiences that every child should get. I hate that people felt the need to attack them. The video was her opinion (which she is allowed to have) but people are nasty and have to take it to the next level. It’s really sad honestly.
I agree. I think she is driven by her own toxic experience with WDW management. I also think the campaign to target vloggers is mainly because she is powerless to hold the source of her traumatic employment experience accountable, which is again WDW management. One of her videos openly admits her tiktok channel is for the processing of her own trauma.
It's Very Awful what that TikTok Video did & Done to the Hayes Family, I've Chatted with Zach from The Hayes Family Vlog at DCA in September which I am a Subscriber & They are So Nice plus Love Thier Content & I got a wristband Which I have on my Desk Right Now. Anyway, I Side with the Hayes Family Vlog & ANOTHER Reason I hate TikTok & Will Never Use it 😠
The Hayes family is not doing none of that they are spreading a beautiful awareness about alopecia my cousin is literally getting treatment and help and got a diagnosis for alopecia because of malia's mother spreading awareness so because of Malia and her family spreading awareness about malia's condition my cousin has the help and doctors she deserves and she's accepting treatment yes she can't do most things alopecia restricts her from a lot of things but she's going to keep on living and her parents are very proud of her and I'm very proud of her as her cousin so to the people hating on the Hayes family and throwing them off social media you people are sick and twisted a lot of you people are out there saying that they shave their own daughter's head and says she has cancer for sympathy which is so not true I hope Malia doesn't know what cyberbullies are I really hope the Hayes family comes back they don't deserve none of this Malia doesn't deserve any of this
Very unfortunate. But, sadly, I'm not surprised. It always fascinates me how much low people are willing to go. To quote Spider-Man villain Mysterio, played by actor Jake Gyllenhaal, in "Spider-Man: Far From Home": *"You see, Peter: people these days need to believe. And nowadays, they'll believe anything."* Fingers crossed they return to RUclips one day.
This is why I don't like Tik Tok. I considered using it, but now one video after another makes me never want to go near it if people are going to use that as their only source of information.
Okay but the TikTok creator did not talk poorly of them or degrade them in any shape or form. Someone asked her in a comment what she thought about the angle of the Hayes family channel and she simply replied w / a kind and respectful video saying she doesn’t agree with channels that cannot exist without character content. Simple as that. As for the Joe Shmoes who sent mean comments to the Hayes - no one is condoning that. And while it’s unfortunate, that is NOT what the creator did. Bullying is wrong period. But I’d think the Hayes - any RUclipsr surely knows that it comes w the internet territory from time to time unfortunately. No need to bow out. Heck, everyone who makes a video in the Hayes family defense has comments of people saying how they had no idea about the TikTok. It’s still not at 700k and btw 1 million views on TikTok is not really considered viral on that platform just saying. Even 7 million is minimal. Again, why else do you think all the commenters here on this video have not even heard of the TikTok video ?!
Its obserd how many times have you seen a video of someone going to Disneyland on RUclips or of there children and you see characters in there its actually kind of suspicious of what kind of a person they are that they only react when it's a girl with alopecia its a way of disguising disgrimintory veiws just another example of a bully on the school yard its time people grow up
I have no idea who the Hayes family is nor what their videos are about but there is NO EXCUSE for bullying. People have just become incredibly mean to one another. Why is it so hard to simply be kind?
I feel these times people like to be the social justice warrior Or do anything to do something right (even though they don't know the context or are even educated about the situation) This type of video's seem to me they are only guided by quantity, not quality. Doesn't matter if it's false or true, as long as it's information (whatever that means in their eyes. Gossip is technically information too.) There are indeed bad vlogfamilies out there. The hayes Family are not one of them. Reminds me of the quote: "words lie, actions can lie too. Consistency speaks the truth." How they vlog their disney trips all the time, it's consistent to us: they love going to disney, they love spreading positivity and above all love their daughter.
I hope they don’t let keyboard warriors that bully them win. Worse thing you can do is give them the power. These people have no idea who it is that actually harass characters at Disney. I saw it some but it seems to have really taken off as a game of sorts. I couldn’t find the tik Tok video you refer to. I did watch the Hayes video. It’s sad and the ex cast member who did his should be ashamed for their wrong assumptions that have caused these people such heartache. I’ll be honest that Disney seems quick to take the guests side in altercations with cast. I’m hoping that they see that with social media, cell phones etc. it becomes more of problem to control everything. Oh and that makes it even more important to have Photopass with the Characters.
TikTok is an evil social media. The Hayes family does not deserve this kind of treatment. They are the salt of the earth and they only wanted to bring positivity into the world when we are living in such dark times right now. The society crusaders need to shut up and get their facts straight. The Hayes are so nice and if the naysayers bother to watch any of their videos, you will see that they are good parents to their daughter and a genuinely nice family. I 100% agree with you sir.
I follow that tiktoker and I will say this she didn’t even know who they were! Someone asked about them by name! So she then talked about it. She only responds if they mention someone. Should the Hayes receive hate? Absolutely not no one should. Even the people who purposely film characters to “catch them” doing something. She’s upset because unfortunately there are aholes out there who do it solely to go viral. That needs to stop. She is simply spreading awareness for character performers and unfortunately someone mentioned the Hayes and they got caught in the crossfires. She cannot control what others do. She’s never encouraged hate. If the Hayes feel they are in the right I hope they come back and prove that. I haven’t seen anything from them only briefly heard of them
I don't think Tremaine meant for her followers to deplatform and dox the child, but when she found out and admitted that the child had been doxed by her followers, all she did was close the comments. She never spoke out against doxing the family even though it was unethical and illegal, but doubled down on not apologizing and said they had asked for it. 🙄
@@SirWillow just hoping to see some context. Hopefully the Hayes family is able to sue the user for slander, false statements, as well as mental damages.
I never did approve of TikTok. This revolting act has solidified my disdain for the platform, and those running it would have to be fools of elephantine proportions to not take the actions necessary to ensure that misinformation had no say in the matter.
I love the hayes family their videos are great I’m so mad that some idiot would bully & say such mean things about malia & her parents I hope they come back to RUclips
There's a link in the description to their video. They were accused of taking advantage of the characters at Disney and their child to "get rich on youtube" among other insanities
If you don’t like something move on. There is so much other content. Why go after someone you don’t agree with. As someone who spends entirely too much time on RUclips there is something else available. Civility goes a long way!
Wow... Just wow...AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY! Just some people who just want to go to Disney and do good in the world! People just see a tick toc and be like “oh bla bla people do 1 thing (THATS NOT BAD) and we will now scream be mad and cuss! With no evidence!!” I might be a kid (more pre-teen but I don’t care) I know that this sucks! And this should not be happening! 😾🙀😿
I tried looking up what "horrible crime" this family allegedly committed, and I can't really find anything about it. All I see is videos of a cute kid interacting with the characters.. Can someone fill me in?
supposedly it's "exploiting their child and the Disney characters without proper compensation and safety so that they can become rich millionaires", or at least along those ridiculous lines. And the worst part is the huge number watching it who don't bother to question any of the allegations made in the video or in the comments afterwards.
@@SirWillow Boy, if that doesn't prove people will complain about anything, I don't know what does. Hope those complainers never catch wind of some of those movies filmed in the park without permission, or their heads might explode.
The good old social media. Proving itself every day to be a source of garbage. Watching this style of bullying is why I don't use Facebook, all started when a certain event was cancelled close ish to me and people went nuts and I was ashamed to be associated with them
@@SirWillow You may not always be able to control the trolls, but you CERTAINLY control your reaction and exposure to them. People don’t realize when you make videos like the Hayes did, you just fed the trolls a juicy steak dinner.
I really don’t think it’s a huge issue. She keeps saying that she sure that Hayes family are nice people. All she is doing is trying to protect the cast members. It’s Hayes family fans that caused all this happen. She was never trying to “Bully” them. Nor is she. She is a former cast member speaking from her experience that’s all!
I'm seeing it from both sides really, saying that the hayes family are using their daughter and that they're terrible people and the other side harassing a former cast member who has had first hand experience in wdw. It's sad not to see both sides have an actual conversation about mistreatment of cast members and Disney's money hungry agenda
I do wonder if they are actually quitting, or just doing that thing that is much more common for popular RUclipsrs: to make an "I'm quitting" video to spike their view counts.
Let me just say that if you are one of those upset because I spoke out against the wrong being done here, against bullying and poor behavior, and in support of the Hayes... then the problem here isn't me.
Until we all stand against horrible behavior and things like this being done to them it will continue. Silence in this case is agreement that the horrible things being done to them is ok.
Unfortunately social media has turn people into hurling accusations without ever knowing the origins of the source. People who live in glass houses like the throw rocks at others.
And it’s so ridiculous because they clearly state Malia has ALOPECIA not cancer and the ridiculous accusations of them shaving her head for money and stuff just make me so mad. Some TikTok-ers are so shitty. They wouldn’t even listen to the people they claim to defend when cast members defended the Hayes family.
Thank you for coming out in support of the Hayes Family. My daughter has a rare disability and she has identified so much with Malia. I am so sad for her, and angry for Malia and the Hayes Family. The messages of positivity and self-love were so empowering for a girl about Malia’a age, struggling to accept the challenges of her life. I want to fight for the Hayes family. They don’t deserve this.
The TikTok creator never spoke out against the family. She just replied to a comment saying she did not agree w the angle of their content.
@@seasonseven422 "To express one's feelings or opinions frankly and publicly."
The Hayes Family doesn’t even deserve this. I feel that the world is getting crazier and crazier each day. People have to show kindness to each other. I am visually impaired, I use a white cane to get around. My neighbor commented to me that, “Is Emily using a cane for a science fair project?” It was not nice.
What I find revolting is that that person attacking the Hayes on TikTok for using and abusing Malia and Disney for their own interest is actually doing the same thing, creating buzz and bad buzz over big names to push his own content out there and create views!
I hope the Hayes return someday (on their own terms of course). They've spread so much positivity & they've helped out so many people through their videos. It would be a shame to see them go. On the other hand, I understand becoming disillusioned by this whole ordeal & wanting to bow out. Just an unfortunate & distressing situation all around. It's also very sad that there are some people out there who apparently haven't grown out of the high school bullying phase & want to attack people without knowing the full story.
Thank you for voicing exactly how I'm feeling about this. I saw the Hayes Family video earlier, announcing that they were backing off from RUclips and why.
I honestly was in tears for the family; I've always loved their videos.
I was wondering why I haven't seen the Hayes family videos lately. They were truly a blessing on RUclips, as you are as well. I hope they come back. May God bless you and yours.
Thank you for this. I just saw their video - it is wrong on many levels. Let's hope that it's get sorted ASAP. TikTok is poison, PERIOD.
We LOVE the Hayes family! Walt would be the 1st one to defend this family & would not want these heartless bullies anywhere near his beautiful parks. Thank you George for making us aware of this. 💔😢
My family and I have been watching the Hayes family for several years and we love them and all the videos they make. They have our full support and we hope this is not the end of their adventures.
poor Hayes family, they don't deserve that, poor kid she is probably scared of what has happened.
my heart is breaking for them and wish that some people would just grow up and treat another person with respect and kindness.
as a survivor of bullying and of both verbal and emotional, I really feel for them and love the few videos I have seen from them
I have never seen a video created by you sir. May I just say Bless you to whatever higher power you may believe in. The Hayes family is one of the last vestiges off wholesomeness I associate with Disney. The Characters and their interactions with Melia give me a touch of hope in this stressful world. You have my thanks!
Thank you. And I hope that will change about not having seen one of my videos. If you enjoy Disney, I've got a lot of it on my channel. :-)
Thank you for talking about this issue. It really needs to be brought more to light because I love the channel and the videos have helped me through college exams in terms of stress. And the family is the most amazing family that I have ever come across on RUclips. I hope that this issue will go away one day because they don’t deserve the unnecessary hate thrown at them. Thanks again.
Sir...Well said! I was absolutely shocked, saddened and quite frankly, absolutely as mad as I can get when I heard about this. The Hayes Family not only does not deserve this, but they brought joy & light through the darkness of these past couple years for myself. I wish beyond anything that there was something we could all do for them. A petition, anything! I for one would love to thank them personally as I'm sure many would, but I hope that somehow we the supporters can stand together and fight for them. This is is not right!!
Thank you for defending the Hayes family. It disgusted me too. Yeah I'm saddened by this too
As a survivor of bullying and of both verbal and emotional abuse. I also have disabilities, too.
I have been bullied by everyone too, and I too have disabilities
Thank you so much for the love, I have been a fan of the Hayes family for awhile and to know that there is still love in this world is awesome. I have already shared my love with them and will again.
I saw the Hayes Family Volg video earlier today it made me angry. I am disgusted that they of all people are the ones to be trashed on the internet. It's sickening and we need to do something about it. Sooner or later, things will NEED to change. They have my support 100%
I agree, sir. They just don't know what they really are. The Hayes family is a family who wants to spread the joy they have and Alopecia awareness. Idk what is going on with people these days, but I hope they would always dig deeper before saying bad things
I am sorry that the Hayes family went through all of that. I always loved seeing Malia on their videos and never thought that they were exploiting her. I hope they are able to come back and ignore the cyperbullying. May God bless them and you and yours.
Sad to hear about the Hayes family. I've seen a lot of their videos, and I've always enjoyed them. They've never come of as people who use/abuse their daughter for their own gain, or the Disney employees.
The TikTok video is at 4 million views! Hayes Family Blog doesn’t deserve this! I want to hug them so bad! I feel awful for them 😭
In all seriousness, the offending vid needs to be removed from TikTok ASAP! My opinion on TikTok was already negative before this but now it’s hit a whole new low.
People suck. Especially when they flat out accuse you of something so ridiculous without providing insufficient proof.
Word.
I agree with you. They're an amazing family I love watching when they share their journey with everyone. I have a loved one who suffers from it. I love that family and what they stand for.
What an unfortunate story. People running their mouths, when they know nothing. This is unfortunately the way society is trending. It's so sad. The Hayes have always seemed like a beautiful, genuine family. If you actually watched their videos, you can see they don't take advantage and the cast members typically get more love and enjoyment from interactions with their daughter. Much love and good thoughts to the Hayes family 💜🙏
Thank you for this video. The problem is there are a lot of self appointed experts saying things online that they shouldn't. They need to do some research before they open their mouths. When they open their mouths they need to be respectful to others.
Honestly it’s crazy how much bullying happens in the Disney Community of all things. One this is a community of mostly adults, Disney promotes kindness and it’s just plain cruel and immature. It’s one thing to find humor in Disney, Vloggers etc, but another to attack Disney Vloggers. Just nasty spirited people! Really takes away one of the best parts of being apart of the Disney community... kindness!!!
sadly it seems to be kind of the thing going recently
Wow I can't believe that this is happening tictok is a very toxic place. The whole situation is sad
These people need somebody to pray for them.
Notice most haters are RARELY if ever, that aggressively mean in real life. It's much easier for them to be a "tough guy" behind a keyboard.
This Tiktoker is blaming Demand-side customers (Disney Vloggers) for a supply side issue (WDW's notoriously strict entertainment department)
I think Disney should take some of the more wholesome vloggers under their wing and let them be official content creators for Disney's social media. its win/win.
You know to be honest I don't follow circles that you're in. So I'm really not sure exactly what happened. However I find it really difficult to believe that someone would actually have the nerve to ask you to promote a certain political value. I understand that they were supporting you financially but when you look at your channel you don't promote your own political beliefs. It's pretty presumptuous for them to insist that you promote their political beliefs. That's just rude. Hang in there sirwillow
that is not nice I have cerebral palsy. I'm very worried that is going to happen to me. I wish I could give them a hug. Thank you for making this
The Hayes Family are too pure for this world. 😭
I feel that one of the reasons for the bullying is that those that posted are jealous, plain and simple. They are jealous of the confidence, rapport, and popularity that Malia and her family has with the cast members. I have seen this happen quite a few times here on RUclips. Someone gets jealous of someone’s rise in popularity so to make themselves look good, they have to start rumors to knock the popularity down a notch or two. To really hit hard, they put it on a social platform where it will spread like wildfire knowing people will join in the band wagon and gain their own following. Karma will come back and kick the posters in the butt.
The Hayes Family are good people and anyone who says otherwise are bullies and need to go go get a
Life. I cannot and will not tolerate bullies.
Amen! I couldn't agree more. Let's start a "Be Nice" movement! ❤❤❤
I was wondering what happened to them! I literally just found their RUclips page a few months ago and have been enjoying the videos and realise they haven’t uploaded anything recently. This sucks. I loved the Hayes Family!
It's sad. The Tik Tok video did NOT say the Hayes Family were bad people. She has a problem with ANY interaction video. She made it clear in the comments that she doesn't think they are bad people, she thinks that interaction videos, even ones made with no ill intent, are problematic. I disagree with her. The problem is the trolls that took her point of view, and made the Hayes family into monsters which she never said. She's actually turned off the comments because the trolls were attacking and doxing Malia.
As I've said to her, although I don't know if she's seen it, part of HER problem is she is an ex WDW cast member. Disneyland is a different place, and is obviously not as petty and vindictive to their character performers as WDW. I've gone down a character/Disney rabbit hole the last several months after Viral Queen got recommended to me, and I've seen videos where DLR characters do things that apparently would get them fired at WDW. These characters still work at DLR to this day, one of them, the biggest "breaker" imo, has been there for YEARS, and she still works there. She's going to AGE out before she gets fired for breaking "character integrity". DLR clearly knows what she, and the other characters do in the Hayes videos, and they have NOT been fired. She's actually my 2nd favorite character performer after Viral Queen, she's pretty darn awesome!
Going by what this Tik Toker has posted, WDW is still petty and vindictive to character performers, she is still friends with many. Her big blind spot, to me, is her not understanding her WDW experience is not as relevant as she thinks it is to DLR.
I do think she can be very unfair.. Her calling out Keith Lapinig was not right, period. She is too laser focused on one issue, and doesn't take in the whole circumstance before spouting off sometimes.
I have a feeling there is a story there behind her notn working anymore. Because even what you've said here doesn't match up with my experiences working with the characters at WDW. :-)
@@SirWillow There does seem to be a common theme I've seen of WDW face characters quitting because of burnout or even quitting to avoid burnout, and I've seen many mentions of toxic management. I never see the same for DLR, as a matter of fact, I can't hardly even find ex DLR face characters at all. It's all WDW. It's even mentioned in the Reddit AMA's I've read about the difference in management style. WDW clearly has more toxic management than DLR. It doesn't mean ALL WDW management is toxic. My understanding is more if the WRONG WDW manager sees certain things you can get in trouble.
WDW is such a big place that people like you can work there, and not have a terrible experience, while people like her do. Also, I think a face character would be more prone to be fired capriciously than a photo pass photographer. She basically quit because of burnout, iirc. . Both your experience, and her experience are valid, and obviously different.
Her Tik Tok videos are interesting, and I think she is basically honest, but I don't think she is always fair.
BTW, she was in a viral video, 17 million views so far. She became friends with the family, and the little girl is a teenager now.
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Part of the problem for me is that the world is shades of gray, and she is a little too black and white in some of her opinions, and that's not how the world works.
I fully admit I'm just giving an opinion based on me reading this and that, and seeing this and that on the internet. I myself not only have never worked for Disney, I haven't been to Disneyland or even California since I moved to St. Louis in 1980. I actually grew up near Disneyland, and even nearer Knotts Berry Farm.
I have to take back anything nice I said about her. She just blocked me on TikTok without ever addressing a single point I made to her, and I wasn't rude to her either. What a spineless villain. Trying to see how she's any better than the management she complains about.
@@drh3b I kind of had a feeling. There's a lot of what she's said in that video and a couple of others that just doesn't quite line up. She also doesn't seem to understand what the role of a character is in relation to the company, interacting with guests, and video and other footage. Hopefully she can work things through and come to a better place.
@@SirWillow I hope so. I've seen enough of her videos to know that she had some horrible things happen to her there. But, that doesn't justify closing your mind to other's opinions and just facts.
She also worked at Universal, which she says was a much better place to work. Yet, she apparently can't comprehend that Disneyland is literally a different company than Disneyworld. Yes, they are obviously owned by the same larger corporation, but they are totally separate companies from each other, and aren't run the same. I have tons of thoughts, but I won't drag your channel down by posting them here. 🙂
I can't even find the Tiktok to know what everyone is even talking about. I hope it was removed and that's why! The Hayes Family have given such a wonderful platform for Alopecia Awareness, Positivity, and Self Love. I've been watching them for years and this is a very sad thing to have happened.
@ tremainetok. I think. Thats the only person i see that mentions them.
I’m glad someone spoke out about what’s going on with the Hayes family and that poor Malia getting so much hate 😞 it’s not fair they are suffering so much
I actually love Hayes Family because they share lots of positivities. I also happy to see Malia happy. I always rewatch their old videos. I hope they will be back because they are loved by so many people including me
Thank you for speaking out.
I love the Hayes family.
Thank you for making this vid. I just saw there's and it made me really upset. The hayes family doesn't deserve this.
I've never tolerated bullying and never will
They're now definitely afraid to go back to Disneyland because of all the threats they've been receiving even people have been showing up to their home
They're showing up to their home???? That's terrible!
I feel so bad for Zach, Ash & Malia, they don't deserve such horrible treatment. Those who have been bullying need to stop and check their actions and should be ashamed of themselves. They need to GROW UP & GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Hayes Fam didn't do anything except try to bring awareness for an ACTUAL CONDITION that affects numerous people and have fun doing it.
The Hayes family will be in my prayers for sure
I will always defend the Hayes family because alopecia is a very serious condition and that people need to take it serious. It’s sad to see them go through this. This is one of the reasons I dislike tik Tok because of the bullying
Preach because you ain't lying about how others treat others these days
ya this world is more and more full of hate :( i feel bad for this family,there beautyful pepole i hope the bullies stop, because this family is the best family ive ever seen,i wanna be part of there family
i love the Hayes family i found their channel when they did all the charther meets at Disney and i just fell in love with their family _< i really hope they come back to youtube, as i dont go on instagram much where they said to keep following them so yeah.... :(
I just watched their video and i feel the same way you do. I hope they come back they are a good family and make fun videos
I personally cannot understand why people think they can do things like this to someone who’s never done anything wrong in the first place. I found their channel not too long after I had found yours, both in relation to find information about Disney and character interactions. Seeing their video’s always was a pleasure and to see how much fun they have in the parks. It angers me too that people are so willing to bully and say nasty things to this family, like they have no reason, no true fact to back up their harassment.
I follow the girl who posted the video on tick tok. She’s majorly against any character content being used for profit and views. She feels it takes away from the performers who are friends with the characters. I personally think she’s very jaded because she was a performer herself at one point and clearly seems to have had some rough experiences. I don’t believe that the Hayes Family have done anything wrong. I’ve watched many of their videos and I think they are a sweet family who love Disney and want their child to have normal experiences that every child should get. I hate that people felt the need to attack them. The video was her opinion (which she is allowed to have) but people are nasty and have to take it to the next level. It’s really sad honestly.
I agree. I think she is driven by her own toxic experience with WDW management. I also think the campaign to target vloggers is mainly because she is powerless to hold the source of her traumatic employment experience accountable, which is again WDW management. One of her videos openly admits her tiktok channel is for the processing of her own trauma.
It's Very Awful what that TikTok Video did & Done to the Hayes Family, I've Chatted with Zach from The Hayes Family Vlog at DCA in September which I am a Subscriber & They are So Nice plus Love Thier Content & I got a wristband Which I have on my Desk Right Now. Anyway, I Side with the Hayes Family Vlog & ANOTHER Reason I hate TikTok & Will Never Use it 😠
I'm so jealous! :D
I love the Hayes family thank you for speaking up for them and others who are positive on RUclips
The Hayes family is not doing none of that they are spreading a beautiful awareness about alopecia my cousin is literally getting treatment and help and got a diagnosis for alopecia because of malia's mother spreading awareness so because of Malia and her family spreading awareness about malia's condition my cousin has the help and doctors she deserves and she's accepting treatment yes she can't do most things alopecia restricts her from a lot of things but she's going to keep on living and her parents are very proud of her and I'm very proud of her as her cousin so to the people hating on the Hayes family and throwing them off social media you people are sick and twisted a lot of you people are out there saying that they shave their own daughter's head and says she has cancer for sympathy which is so not true I hope Malia doesn't know what cyberbullies are I really hope the Hayes family comes back they don't deserve none of this Malia doesn't deserve any of this
Very unfortunate. But, sadly, I'm not surprised.
It always fascinates me how much low people are willing to go.
To quote Spider-Man villain Mysterio, played by actor Jake Gyllenhaal, in "Spider-Man: Far From Home": *"You see, Peter: people these days need to believe. And nowadays, they'll believe anything."*
Fingers crossed they return to RUclips one day.
This is why I don't like Tik Tok. I considered using it, but now one video after another makes me never want to go near it if people are going to use that as their only source of information.
Okay but the TikTok creator did not talk poorly of them or degrade them in any shape or form. Someone asked her in a comment what she thought about the angle of the Hayes family channel and she simply replied w / a kind and respectful video saying she doesn’t agree with channels that cannot exist without character content. Simple as that. As for the Joe Shmoes who sent mean comments to the Hayes - no one is condoning that. And while it’s unfortunate, that is NOT what the creator did. Bullying is wrong period. But I’d think the Hayes - any RUclipsr surely knows that it comes w the internet territory from time to time unfortunately. No need to bow out. Heck, everyone who makes a video in the Hayes family defense has comments of people saying how they had no idea about the TikTok. It’s still not at 700k and btw 1 million views on TikTok is not really considered viral on that platform just saying. Even 7 million is minimal. Again, why else do you think all the commenters here on this video have not even heard of the TikTok video ?!
Its obserd how many times have you seen a video of someone going to Disneyland on RUclips or of there children and you see characters in there its actually kind of suspicious of what kind of a person they are that they only react when it's a girl with alopecia its a way of disguising disgrimintory veiws just another example of a bully on the school yard its time people grow up
I have no idea who the Hayes family is nor what their videos are about but there is NO EXCUSE for bullying. People have just become incredibly mean to one another. Why is it so hard to simply be kind?
I feel these times people like to be the social justice warrior Or do anything to do something right (even though they don't know the context or are even educated about the situation)
This type of video's seem to me they are only guided by quantity, not quality. Doesn't matter if it's false or true, as long as it's information (whatever that means in their eyes. Gossip is technically information too.)
There are indeed bad vlogfamilies out there. The hayes Family are not one of them. Reminds me of the quote: "words lie, actions can lie too. Consistency speaks the truth." How they vlog their disney trips all the time, it's consistent to us: they love going to disney, they love spreading positivity and above all love their daughter.
I hope they don’t let keyboard warriors that bully them win. Worse thing you can do is give them the power. These people have no idea who it is that actually harass characters at Disney. I saw it some but it seems to have really taken off as a game of sorts. I couldn’t find the tik Tok video you refer to. I did watch the Hayes video. It’s sad and the ex cast member who did his should be ashamed for their wrong assumptions that have caused these people such heartache. I’ll be honest that Disney seems quick to take the guests side in altercations with cast.
I’m hoping that they see that with social media, cell phones etc. it becomes more of problem to control everything. Oh and that makes it even more important to have Photopass with the Characters.
I was always taught to Do unto others as you wish them to do unto you.
I totally understand your frustration 👍🏻
This makes me sick I did not know that I'm so sorry to hear about that the Hayes family actually my favorite Vloggers
TikTok is an evil social media. The Hayes family does not deserve this kind of treatment. They are the salt of the earth and they only wanted to bring positivity into the world when we are living in such dark times right now. The society crusaders need to shut up and get their facts straight. The Hayes are so nice and if the naysayers bother to watch any of their videos, you will see that they are good parents to their daughter and a genuinely nice family. I 100% agree with you sir.
What happed to them I miss them making vlogs and watching their daughter grow and interacting with the characters.
I have no idea what’s going on here. I’ve never heard of them.
There's a link in the description to their video talking about it
I follow that tiktoker and I will say this she didn’t even know who they were! Someone asked about them by name! So she then talked about it. She only responds if they mention someone. Should the Hayes receive hate? Absolutely not no one should. Even the people who purposely film characters to “catch them” doing something. She’s upset because unfortunately there are aholes out there who do it solely to go viral. That needs to stop. She is simply spreading awareness for character performers and unfortunately someone mentioned the Hayes and they got caught in the crossfires. She cannot control what others do. She’s never encouraged hate. If the Hayes feel they are in the right I hope they come back and prove that. I haven’t seen anything from them only briefly heard of them
I don't think Tremaine meant for her followers to deplatform and dox the child, but when she found out and admitted that the child had been doxed by her followers, all she did was close the comments. She never spoke out against doxing the family even though it was unethical and illegal, but doubled down on not apologizing and said they had asked for it. 🙄
I feel like I missed something. What was said?!
So I looked up the the Hayes family on RUclips and I have watched a few of there videos before and love them I have no clue what people are mad about?
What is this tik tok video called?
sorry if I don't want to point anyone to it. it's already gotten far more attention than it should have
@@SirWillow just hoping to see some context. Hopefully the Hayes family is able to sue the user for slander, false statements, as well as mental damages.
it's far more the commentators getting all worked up and doing stuff. The original video wasn't good to begin with, but it got much worse afterwards.
I never did approve of TikTok. This revolting act has solidified my disdain for the platform, and those running it would have to be fools of elephantine proportions to not take the actions necessary to ensure that misinformation had no say in the matter.
I agree with you
I agree with you as well.
I love the hayes family their videos are great I’m so mad that some idiot would bully & say such mean things about malia & her parents I hope they come back to RUclips
The people these days that go to have lost their marbles sometimes
Can someone please fill me in to what the tik tok was about because I am lost
There's a link in the description to their video. They were accused of taking advantage of the characters at Disney and their child to "get rich on youtube" among other insanities
@@SirWillow thank you
If you don’t like something move on. There is so much other content. Why go after someone you don’t agree with. As someone who spends entirely too much time on RUclips there is something else available. Civility goes a long way!
I agree 100 percent with you
Cancel culture back at it again
Someone should do a video about why TikTok is bad! ;)
hmm, I seem to recall having seen one at some point. :-P
Wow...
Just wow...AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY!
Just some people who just want to go to Disney and do good in the world!
People just see a tick toc and be like “oh bla bla people do 1 thing (THATS NOT BAD) and we will now scream be mad and cuss! With no evidence!!”
I might be a kid (more pre-teen but I don’t care) I know that this sucks! And this should not be happening!
😾🙀😿
I tried looking up what "horrible crime" this family allegedly committed, and I can't really find anything about it. All I see is videos of a cute kid interacting with the characters.. Can someone fill me in?
supposedly it's "exploiting their child and the Disney characters without proper compensation and safety so that they can become rich millionaires", or at least along those ridiculous lines. And the worst part is the huge number watching it who don't bother to question any of the allegations made in the video or in the comments afterwards.
@@SirWillow Boy, if that doesn't prove people will complain about anything, I don't know what does. Hope those complainers never catch wind of some of those movies filmed in the park without permission, or their heads might explode.
1.5 M for a kid is too much
The Internet is the worst thing that ever happened to humankind.
And in some ways the best. And all sorts of stuff in between. :-)
@@SirWillow You seem like a very nice person, so I will not pursue this topic any further.
I love them guy
this is so unfortunate for the hayes family
also a reason why i dont like tik tok
@@cateredtomato816 hi mate bullying can kill. Good on your stand
Maybe someday they might come back
I hate how people treat other people I just people would just act there age not their shoe size
The good old social media. Proving itself every day to be a source of garbage. Watching this style of bullying is why I don't use Facebook, all started when a certain event was cancelled close ish to me and people went nuts and I was ashamed to be associated with them
The internet is not a real place. If you can’t conceptualize that you probably shouldn’t have a platform there.
But the people who interact with it are very real and I think many forget that
@@SirWillow You may not always be able to control the trolls, but you CERTAINLY control your reaction and exposure to them. People don’t realize when you make videos like the Hayes did, you just fed the trolls a juicy steak dinner.
I like your Han Solo outfit.
Hehe not Han Solo. You'll see tomorrow what It is. :-)
#bantiktok
I really don’t think it’s a huge issue. She keeps saying that she sure that Hayes family are nice people. All she is doing is trying to protect the cast members. It’s Hayes family fans that caused all this happen. She was never trying to “Bully” them. Nor is she. She is a former cast member speaking from her experience that’s all!
I'm seeing it from both sides really, saying that the hayes family are using their daughter and that they're terrible people and the other side harassing a former cast member who has had first hand experience in wdw. It's sad not to see both sides have an actual conversation about mistreatment of cast members and Disney's money hungry agenda
I do wonder if they are actually quitting, or just doing that thing that is much more common for popular RUclipsrs: to make an "I'm quitting" video to spike their view counts.
I don't think their Quitting, More like taking a Break from Making Videos on RUclips
At the very least they are taking an extended break. But I don't know that they will be back to RUclips.