Great video as usual Terry, I have a thermotec heat source pump on my 3000gal pond and last winter it cost me approx £250 from November through to March to maintain 14.5c , they are a bit if an outlay but the returns in seeing fish active and feeding is wellworth it take care and look forward to seeing it when its fitted.
Hi Andy, thanks mate, Mine should be here in the next few days. Can't wait to get it in and working. They seem to sell them quicker than they can get them. I have now registered as a seller with HeatPumps4Pools, so if you know anybody wanting one, I might be able to help mate. I've not heard a bad word about them yet. Must admit, they are really helpful. The heaters do look a cracking bit of kit. I've got the 9kw coming, which I think will be plenty big enough for my 2500 gallon. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
This is a really nice setup! I just went through a big heater problem and lost a lot of fish last week during a temperature plummet during a hurricane, when I lost my heaters. I'm in Maine, USA, I ended up bringing the fish inside today. It's too cold here in the winter anyway, but I don't generally lose the heaters before I'm quite ready in the fall!
Hi Sirena, and thank you, very much appreciated. Sorry to hear you lost your fish and heating. Thank goodness we don't get the hurricanes here in the UK, but I have to say, our weather here is changing, and not for the good. We've had a rubbish summer here this season, and now we are getting toward winter 🙄🙄thanks again, and take care, Terry.
Air source heat pump will be nice looking forward to see that video something I have been looking at when I get the new pond so can’t wait to see how you get on terry
Hi mate, yes, I always wanted one, but didn't want to spend the money lol. Must admit, it did make my eyes water when I had to pay for it lol. I can't wait to get it in now. If you ever think of getting one, give me a shout. I might be able to get you a deal. I'm registered with the company now. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Hi Marty, thanks mate. Were battening down the hatches here as Thursday and Friday are going to be really cold and windy down this east side of the country. Take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
Nice video. I live in Buffalo n.y. gets real cold here. Kio injoy the cold no problems with parasites here. I use a small round heater that just keeps a hole in the ice. And a solar air pump.
Hi Josh, and thank you. I can't wait to get the new ashp in and fitted. It should be very interesting to see how it all goes. Thanks mate, take care and stay safe. Terry.
I want to say your pond and setup look very nice and beautiful. Here in Arizona southwest USA, in the summer I have to spend a few dollars to fan my pond.
Hi mate, and thank you for your kind comment. The air source heat pump I'm getting will also cool water which sounds like what you need. Give me a shout if your interested in one, I might be able to help. thanks again, Terry.
Hi Carol, thank you. The new heater is ordered and paid for (which did make my eyes water lol) so I can't wait to get it fitted. You take care and stay safe, Terry.
Good idea to get the Air Source Heat Pump! We took the plunge this year and fitted a Duratech Dura10+. Best thing we’ve done. Our pond is 7200 gal and currently being kept at 15.5 deg C. Costing about £1.45 per day at the moment which doesn’t seem too bad as the temps have been dropping pretty low overnight lately. Will be looking out for the next video! 👍🏻
Hi mate, I thought it was about time I stopped messing around with pond heaters and did the job properly lol. I was looking at the Duratech heaters but ended up going for the 9kw Thermotec Inverter Air Source heater. Can't get it until the end of the month as their sold out, so waiting for the next batch to come in. I will start the video as soon as it arrives. thanks mate take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Terry, blimey £7 per day and it's not that cold yet, be really interesting to see the difference when you install the air source, considerably cheaper I would expect. You stay safe mate and thanks for the update. Regards Andy
Hi Andy, and thank you. I think that would have gone up to £10.00+ when the weather comes cold. It was only holding the temp 1 degree above ambient temp. Mind you, I think it could be a lot different with a decent stat on it. It will be interesting to see just what the air source heat pump does. thanks mate. take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Terry, and thank you. I really don't put much salt in my pond at all. I normally run 8 good handfuls of salt. The koi will hardly know its there, and as winter prep comes I add another 8 handfuls. A hand full works out to around 100g so not much at all when you think some add 1lb per 100 gallon. You maybe know that salt is a very mild irritant to koi and this causes them to increase their slime coat. What you have to remember is salt wont disappear from the water with evaporation, It can only be removed by water changes. Hope this helps mate, thanks again and take care, Terry.
Another good video Terry. I must admit when you were fitting the heater I was thinking "That will be expensive". Only heard good things on Air Source heating so looking forward to that. Stay safe.
Hi mate, thank you. Always appreciated. I think the Cloverleaf heater would have ended up costing about £10.00 a day when the weather gets cold. Having said that, I think with a better external stat on it, it would be a lot different. thanks mate, take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Terry, it's now June 8th 2021 & I've not been getting any notifications from your RUclips channel, I love watching your videos, I think you're just the greatest guy ever with your hands on koi, back yard, info etc... videos and I was just wondering I haven't heard from Terry with notifications 🤷♀️ so I looked and seen and there not on (ALL) from you, so now I'm going to binge on all your videos for the next week and instead of loading up on all your comments, I'm going to write you at your Hotmail or Gmail but I will give a constant thumbs up on all your awesome hands on info Entertaining videos as I know every little bit helps and.... I can't forget... Hi to the misses... Hope all is well and going great! Deb!🤪👍
Hi Deb's, not seen you for a while, I was getting worried. Thank you for your kind comments, it's always very much appreciated. I'm not sure just what's going on with RUclips, Like you I don't get any notifications of new releases from channels I'm subscribe to, and they can't seem to sort it out either. Fiona says Hi and hopes your well. Were all well here thank you. I hope all's well with you and your family. Thanks for your support Deb's, you take care and stay safe, Terry.
Ouch that's expensive Terry🙁 you've made me buy one of them electricity plug in meters now to check mine ! Luckily mines in the shed and sheds insulated and so is the grow pond. Still think because you had the heater on a straight through pipe that may of caused the stat issues . Instructions do state to put pipework in a u shape. But there's always a silver lining mate !! Can't wait to see the air source pump would love to have one of them little gems 💎 ..
Hi Mark, fitting the heater in the U shape is to stop any chance of an airlock in the heater as you'll know. But I had plenty of flow through it, which would have pushed out any air. I must admit, I am looking forward to getting the new ashp. If you ever think of buying one, give me a shout. I am now registered with the company to sell ashp's so I could do you a deal. Have a look at this: www.heatpumps4pools.com/product/thermotec-inverter-horizontal-heat-pumps-9kw-to-24kw/ thanks, Terry.
Hi Richard, thank you, good to hear you enjoy the videos. I can't wait to get the heater and get it installed. I'm like a child at Christmas lol. take care mate, Terry.
Great show my friend.. Don't have heaters as you know but I don't miss your show. Everything looks great. Koi look excellent. Hope you stop in for a visit as I just uploaded a koi nursery video on Sunday. All the best my friend.
Hi Glenn, thanks mate. Hopefully the next video will be of the air source heat pump fitting. I can't wait to get it in now lol. Thanks again mate, Terry.
Thanks for sharing, really looking forward to seeing you install the Air Source Heat Pump and seeing the difference it makes. Such an interesting project you have, I was looking for something to watch and up pops a "Wrighty" video, perfect!
Hi mate, and thank you. I can't wait to get it now. It did make my eyes water a bit when I had to pay for it lol. I have gone for a good model. Should all be in the next video hopefully. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Thanks for filming Terry air heat pump or gas is the only way to go for heating look forward to seeing the fitting of it but happy to put the money into to heating the house and give the fish there winter down hear in Devon
Hi Martyn, I know what you mean mate, but every year I say I'm not heating the pond, but when I see the koi on the bottom in about 4c I feel real guilty lol. thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Know what you feel like Terry i do have this part of the Uk in hand down hear it has to be a bad winter to see water temps below 7 or 8 most of the time i can hold 9 to 10 near all winter
Great upload Terry, thanks for sharing. I hope you told the wife the truth and you spent £100 on that Air Source Heat Pump ??? 135 houses going up by me now on what used to be a farmers field, I share your pain. Take care, stay safe Terry & family.
Hi mate, and thank you. I don't tell her the truth to save her from getting upset, bless her, lol. Sounds like were in the same boat mate with the building work. We've got it bad at the moment as their putting the roads in, and have a big vibrating roller going up and down all day. Plus 2 big JCB diggers working away next to our fence. Will be glad when it's all over, but that wont be for quite some time yet. Keep you and yours safe mate, take care, Terry.
Great video Terry, was looking at buying that cloverleaf heater but will give a miss in view of your findings, can’t wait to see your installation of your new heater, have been considering air source heat pump myself, not cheap buy any means but will be the dogs, keep well and safe. 👍👌
Hi Anthony, thank you. Adam Julian had the same problem with his Cloverleaf heater. He fitted a separate stat to his and it sorted it out: ruclips.net/video/VOJfMP8H_lQ/видео.html But their not cheap to run mate. Be OK on a smaller pond I would think. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Hi Terry, look forward to watching you fit the air source heater. The fish look happy under the covers and feeding well. Where did you find the pipe insulation from? I need some 1.5 inch insulation.
Hi Dave, thank you mate. I got the insulation on eBay. I don't know if you can find cheaper elsewhere but I didn't bother looking lol. Here's where I got mine: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Climaflex-Foam-Pipe-Insulation-Pipe-Lagging-Wrap-Roll-Large-Stock-Range/324003259999?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var= hope this helps mate, Take care, Terry.
Hi Terry great video update as usual with you getting air source heat pump I wondered what is the unit you have under your kitchen window looking at the unit looks from a distance like heat pump !!l lol I will be interested how you get on with your new heat pump and what the running costs will be because I know it will be a honest opinion then maybe I might take the plunge and get one myself for my pond.thanks👍🥶
Hi Mark, thank you. Always appreciated mate. The air source heat pump I have for the house is a Mitsubishi it does the central heating and hot water. I had to pay for the one I've ordered today, and must admit it did make my eyes water lol. But I think it's one of the best on the market at the moment. I can't wait to get it fitted. They can't be too bad as they've completely sold out and I'm having to wait 2 weeks to get one lol. I hope to get the fitting in the next video, fingers crossed. take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
I bought a Dream ASHP last year (around the £600 mark). I put an external thermostat on it as the in built one doesn't go low enough and I wanted to give the fish a 'winter' but without letting the temp drop too low. I never had covers on the pond so the heater worked quite hard at times. My one is a 5kW version so it has an input of 1kW. This year I've managed to make some covers (finished them this sunday just gone) and I've been logging the daily electric usage. Over the last few weeks I've averaged between £3.50 -£4.50 a day for the whole house usage and the pond is set at 15.5c with a 0.5 drop before the heater kicks in. We are heavy electric users any way but this is way way better than your £12 a day just for the heater. I cant tell what the pond heater is using on it's own as it isn't wired in a way I can measure just that. The wife went out for the day the other week and the cost dropped to £2.88 for the day (that was before I had the covers on). My heater sits about 18" above the water level (My pond is fully sunk in the ground) and the one problem I have is air locks in the heater whenever I do any work on it or the filter that protects it. Mine is run on an independent circuit with it's own pump in the pond and its own filter. It doesn't have a by pass at all. If I were you I would put a one way valve between the bypass and the heater. That would stop the problem with air locks. I have one on mine but I put it before the filter so I still get the problem if I work on the filter. I really must get around to swapping it round or adding another one on the correct side. The heaters also have a flow switch on them so you have to make sure there is enough water passing through it to keep it triggered. I would also leave the other heater fitted just in case you have problems with the ASHP at any time.
Hi Jim, thanks for the info mate. very much appreciated. You'll find the covers make a big difference to your pond temp. I did look at the Dream heaters, but I wanted the inverter type heat pump, which meant I had to save up for a bit longer. Mine will be set the same as yours and sit above the pond water level, so I will look out for airlocks, thanks for letting me know mate. I do have a non-return valve just before where the heater will be fitted that stops any backflow. I'm hoping my sieve filter will take out most of the dirt before it gets to the heater. I will leave the Cloverleaf heater in the line as a backup like you say. Thanks for the info mate, it's been very helpful, take care, Terry.
@@Wrighty unfortunately the dream pump was the only one I could afford at the time. As and when this one packs up then hopefully I'll be able to afford a better one. But I must say I've had no issues with it so far apart from the air locks
Hi Jim, I have to say I've not herd of any problems with the dream heater and the way it works. The case can get a bit tatty if not looked after but that's about it. Everybody I've spoke to say they really work well. Terry.
Hi Terry Think I've deduced from comments section that you've bought the same make and size I'm interested in, I'm curious, we're you advised to run separate power supply, I thought they had a soft start system allowing it to run from 3 pin plug with 13 amp fuse? Major problem if I have to run separate power supply, Be interesting to see how it restricts flow, as I run 2" pipework? Great video as always and look forward to seeing you set it up.
Hi Marek, I've gone for the Thermotec Inverter 9kw. They are soft start like you say mate, but I had the breaker box in my shed and thought I'd use it and have the heater on it's own circuit. You don't need to have one. Drop me an email mate, I might be able to save you a pound or two on the heater. pondfilters@gmail.com Terry.
Great video, fish are looking good, bit of an eye opener the cost to run that heater ! Out of interest what percentage of salt do you have in your pond to help with their slime coat?
Hi Becks, and thank you. I had around 8 handfuls in there and as I run in my pond all the time, but I added another 8 hands full for the winter. I know it's a small amount and the koi will hardly know it's in there, but it must help a bit. Thanks again Terry.
Hi terry, cloverleaf recommend a maximum flow of 6000litres through the heater for best efficiency. Maybe that may improve things until you get your ASHP.
Hi Luke, thanks mate. I wouldn't think there's much more going through mine. I have a 20,000 lph pump reduced to about 80% then split into 2 x 1.5" pipes. Allow for head pressure and that sounds about right. I don't think there's a problem with the heater at all mate. I think the problem is with the stat that runs it. I know of 4 people now that have had problem and put there's on a separate stat, and say their working a lot better. Thanks for the info mate, always appreciated, Terry.
Hi Paul, heating a pond is not cheap to do mate I must admit. I just want to hold the temp above the 12c mark. My air source heat pump should be in my next video with a bit of luck, so it will give you some idea what's involved mate. Good to hear you enjoy the videos, thank you. Take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
Hi Martyn, that's just what I thought mate. The Cloverleaf heater is ok, but the stat on it's not up to scratch. Glad you've got yours sorted out mate. You take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Martyn, that's right mate. It will be well interesting to actually know the cost of the air source heat pumps. I have ordered the inverter type which should be even better. thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Fascinating stuff! I've always fancied one of the heat exchange pumps. I was toying with the idea of solar panels on my shed roof to power it. Obviously it would be a DIY installation. What do you think? The theory seems to work out. ~Alan ~
Hi Alan, Thank you. To be honest mate, I know nothing about solar power, sorry. It sounds good. Martyn from devonkoi ponds here on RUclips uses solar to power a lot of his pond pumps. He will know more than me mate, have a word with him. You can tell him I sent you. Sorry I can't help much. Terry.
@@Wrighty thanks for that Terry. I'll check that out. I'm no solar panel expert either, but like yourself, I can turn my hand at most things and I'm always up for a challenge. Just food for thought........ As you say, pond heating is an expensive business! I'm looking forward to see your updates.
@@MrAlgar2000 Just a tip or two, your first step in determining if solar would work for you is your budget. Solar has the ability to be expensive to purchase. You would need to know how many watts of power your heat pump would run at full load, including the startup surge, so that you can size your system adequately. After that, you would need a battery bank so that you could run through the night or if the day is overcast, and an inverter to take the low voltage from the system, and make it into mains for the machinery to use. Alternately, you could pipe in a solar roof bypass for when the sun is up to heat water directly. I hope this helps, at least a little. Best of luck on your project! Stay safe out there!
That heater sounds expensive to operate. I think if I was in a colder climate, I could only afford to toss a wool blanket in the pond and make them all snuggle until Spring.
hi i have the same heater cloverleaf 1kw on a 1000 gallon pond covered and insulated pipe work. and the same plug in meter thing off ebay about 13 -14 quid. just for the same reason that you have to keep track of the costs. i am turning the pond over about once an hour and find that the heater kicks in for a few seconds at at a time . from 30 - 60 seconds each time . this is more cost effective once you have reached the temp reqiered . i have been keeping a log of the costs daily plus high and low outside temps . like last week we had a first frost of the year were we had a -1 at 4.30 am and the cost was 1.12 pounds for 24 hours from 7pm to 7pm . the pond temp held at 14 but most days at the moment with the temp held at 14 the costs have been between 0 to 60p a day. and total cost for the last 28 days have been 24.32. i am planning on dropping the temp slowly over december to 10 deg over january and febuary and taking it back up in march to 14 un till ambient temp takes over . and keep feeding very small amounts of wheatgerm once a day while a 10 deg. i did this last year and the koi were happy and eating every day with no health issues at all. and a total cost of about 160 pound give or take a few pence . would cost more the replace one of my much loved koi. please note you will not gain much growth at all at these temps. its just to make them go through the winter and not struggle. and so i can see them every day and check on them and give them a hand full of food.. this bit of info might help some one with the costs of heating to a minimum . but you must be insulated regards terry
Hi Terry, Thanks for the info, but that's just what I though mate. My pond of 2500 UK gallon is too much for it. I still think the stat will do the heater harm keep cutting in and out like it does, plus it will use more electric when it's cutting in because of the power surge when it first connects. A friend on here has fitted an external stat to his, and he says it works loads better. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Just a thought but is your water flow through the heater enough? I believe those heaters have a flow detector built in so if the flow isn’t enough it will cur out as a safety measure. Might be that your flow is just on the minimum limit so any variation would cause it to cut out. Only a thought but may be worth checking?
Hi mate. I have a 20,000 lph pump running at 85% which should be ok, but I thought the same as you. So I turned the stat up full and it didn't cut out. If I try to run it close to the temperature I want, it starts cutting in and out every few seconds. I might get another stat and see how that works. Thanks for your suggestion mate, Terry.
Hi Alex, to be honest mate, I don't know for sure. I'm getting figures from people with ashp of £1.50 to £2.50 a day on average. It can't be any worse than the Cloverleaf lol. thanks mate, Terry.
@@Wrighty If that’s the case, working on a worst case scenario of £3 a day, that’s around £90 a month in a really cold year. 2 months £180. But then realistically no more than 4 weeks extreme cold, then 4 weeks average of around 7/8 degrees probably £45. My guess would be on average about £65 a month. What do you think? From what I have read, it’s more important to keep the water temperature stable than above 10dg C. My feeling is that if you can allow the water temperature to drop to 9dg C but then keep it there, your fish will still appreciate it. Mine dropped to around 7dg last year ( no heater)’ but the fish came out of winter just fine. The only issue is their immune system which takes a while to kick back in.
Hi Alex, The temp of between 8 and 12c is not good for the koi. Once the temp starts to drop below 12c the koi start to loose their immunity and the parasites and bacteria still thrive. Below 6c the bacteria and parasites die off. To heat 2500 gallon of water for around £60.00 a month is not to bad to avoid the sort of problems you could get with the koi. I have 30 koi in there which would take a lot of replacing. One bad bacterial infection could cause all sorts of problems for the rest of the year. I say each year, I'm not heating the pond, then when I see them in the 6 or 7c water I think, poor little devils lol. This year I've decided to go for it. I will see what keeping the pond at 15c costs, and if it's too much, I will drop it to 12c. thanks, Terry.
Hi wrighty looked at one of them heaters but my pond with covers on and insulated is holding at 11 degrees. Doesn't seem worth it to spend 7 quid a day to raise it 2 degrees. To be honest if it raised it to 19 degrees for 7 quid over 24 hrs I'd give it a miss. You need a second hand air source heat pump. Love your vids keep them coming
Hi John, I think just the same as you mate, and every year I say I'm not heating the pond. Then when the pond temp drops to 5 or 6c, I think poor devils, I should have heated the pond lol. My pond at 2500 UK gallon is too big for the Cloverleaf heater. They really shouldn't say it will heat that amount of water. God knows what it would cost when the weather comes cold. I have mine on order and paid for now, so can't wait to get it. take care mate and stay safe, Terry.
@@Wrighty thankyou you 2. Yes in my opinion either cover and show the fish all seasons or heat to 15 plus to feed throughout. Good luck air source are much cheaper 2.50 a day max rather than 7
Hi Stan. Koi can survive in very cold water, but it doesn't mean they like it. It does stress the koi. Below 12c a koi starts to lose it's immunity and bacteria and parasites are still thriving. Also our winters are too long, keeping koi in a stressed state. Terry.
Hi David, that's right mate. I think the heater is ok, it's the stat that's the problem. Can't wait to get the new ashp here, thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Hi Mate, Shame you having a head scratcher with your heater 🤔 looked at them myself but expensive running costs like all heaters for ponds Air Source are popular but buying them is a remortgage for most or argument with wife ☺️ Koi all look happy as always though mate hope you get to some sort of level with your heater takecare mate thanks for sharing
Hi Kev, and thanks mate. The cloverleaf heater might be ok on a smaller pond, but I still think they have a problem with the stat. I have solved the problem with the wife, don't tell her what it really cost lol. Every year I say, I'm not heating my pond, and every year when I see the poor devils in the cold on the bottom I feel really guilty lol. You take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
Hi mate, I know what you mean, but it's not the actual heater. I think the problem is the stat that's running it. I now know 4 people that have put this heater on a separate stat and say it's much much better. I'm looking forward to getting my ashp, it should be very interesting. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Hello mate great video as always, Adam Julian RUclips videos show him having the same problem, he upped the flow and it solved the problem, he had it fitted to a grow on tank, maybe worth a look, what the video was called I don’t know sorry, all the best Matt
Hi Matt, thanks mate. I did see one of Adam's videos where he fitted an external stat to his Cloverleaf heater ruclips.net/video/VOJfMP8H_lQ/видео.html as he had the same problem with the stat. If I turned the stat up full it worked fine. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Ive said it before Terry you need to lose that harbour build an inside pond so you can move your fish inside over winter. Grow some monster fish that way...and before you say it your wife will be fine and she will come round to the idea i promise 😅
Hi Khi, Lol, You've got more faith in her than I have lol. I suggested boarding it in as a summer house, thinking I could have the koi in there in the winter. She saw straight through me lol. The problem is, she knows me too well mate. take care, Terry.
Hi Glen, I hadn't really thought about it mate. I don't think I'll want it so, I can do. Not sure how I'd post it. I don't have anything to pack it in, and it would want packing well as there's a brand new bulb to go with it. Terry.
@@Wrighty Hi Terry yeah that’s not too far mate how much was you thinking of Terry for the UV ? And just off chance Terry going back awhile back now you had a hair pump for sale do you still have that for sale mate to?
Hi Terry, nive just fitter a thermotec inverter 9 kw , its a brilliant bit of kit, whatever heat pump you choose, please do not buy a dream ashp, they are absolutly rubbish. regards
Hi mate, I got exactly the same impression on the Dream heaters. I saw one 2 year old and it looked knackered. I have mine on order and paid for now, so can't wait to get it. I've gone for the same as you. Take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
I've had a Dream pump for the last year and it still looks as good as new. I know they are not the best but then they are less than half the price of the top brands. You have to go with what you can afford.
I love your channel but you don't need to heat the water for koi as they are cold water fish and will do much better if you let them have ice cold running water all winter. That will keep them healthy and fresh and free of parisites. I have been running my ponds all winter in Canada in -30 and -40 below Celsius and never ever had a sick or dead koi ever. Some of my fish are 30 years old. Get rid of heater and get your money back as you don't need a heater in the UK. Heating a pond will just allow more parisites to multiply. Trust me, been keeping koi in n Canada very healthy since 1991.
Hi Colleen, Good to hear you enjoy the channel and thank you for your support. I've been keeping koi since I was 21 years old and am now 70. Everybody has their own idea on koi keeping and how they should be kept. Did you know that below 4c, koi can actually get hyperthermic, and below 2c can actually freeze on the inside. Parasites only become a problem when their immune system becomes week. This starts below 13c down to 8c, after 8c the parasites begin to die. if the water temperature is kept above 13c, the koi keep their immune system and parasites are not a problem. Koi really don't like cold water, so if I can keep them happy I will. This is just my view on keeping koi. I will give them a winter and switch the heater off for 1 month, but I will keep the pond temperature above 4c. Thank you for your comment. Terry.
@@Wrighty not true. My pond water is always barely above freezing and koi are all healthy and fine. That's a myth and I know it. Koi will not freeze . Water of 2 degrees as that's about my pond temperature most all winter. You can go back seven years on my channel and see the same koi in ice cold water every Winter. You don't know because you never seen koi in ice cold running water. Koi will only freeze if you allow the pond to freeze over but running water keeps pond from freezing shut and keeps hole open in ice. I know you guys in UK all think the same, meanwhile in North America many of my koi friends keep there koi outside all year round too.
Great video as usual Terry, I have a thermotec heat source pump on my 3000gal pond and last winter it cost me approx £250 from November through to March to maintain 14.5c , they are a bit if an outlay but the returns in seeing fish active and feeding is wellworth it take care and look forward to seeing it when its fitted.
Hi Andy, thanks mate, Mine should be here in the next few days. Can't wait to get it in and working. They seem to sell them quicker than they can get them. I have now registered as a seller with HeatPumps4Pools, so if you know anybody wanting one, I might be able to help mate. I've not heard a bad word about them yet. Must admit, they are really helpful. The heaters do look a cracking bit of kit. I've got the 9kw coming, which I think will be plenty big enough for my 2500 gallon. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
This is a really nice setup! I just went through a big heater problem and lost a lot of fish last week during a temperature plummet during a hurricane, when I lost my heaters. I'm in Maine, USA, I ended up bringing the fish inside today. It's too cold here in the winter anyway, but I don't generally lose the heaters before I'm quite ready in the fall!
Hi Sirena, and thank you, very much appreciated. Sorry to hear you lost your fish and heating. Thank goodness we don't get the hurricanes here in the UK, but I have to say, our weather here is changing, and not for the good. We've had a rubbish summer here this season, and now we are getting toward winter 🙄🙄thanks again, and take care, Terry.
Air source heat pump will be nice looking forward to see that video something I have been looking at when I get the new pond so can’t wait to see how you get on terry
Hi mate, yes, I always wanted one, but didn't want to spend the money lol. Must admit, it did make my eyes water when I had to pay for it lol. I can't wait to get it in now. If you ever think of getting one, give me a shout. I might be able to get you a deal. I'm registered with the company now. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
@@Wrighty ok terry brilliant stuff mate thanks looking forward to the video mate
Excellent update Terry, the Koi are looking well. The weather is starting to get a bit miserable 😭 Stay safe
Hi Marty, thanks mate. Were battening down the hatches here as Thursday and Friday are going to be really cold and windy down this east side of the country. Take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
Nice video. I live in Buffalo n.y. gets real cold here. Kio injoy the cold no problems with parasites here. I use a small round heater that just keeps a hole in the ice. And a solar air pump.
Hi Kris, thank you. It's getting colder here, not as cold as you get there but it's cold enough for me lol. roll on spring, take care, Terry.
Thanks for posting Terry! Resistive heat is expensive, for sure. Definitely interested in seeing how your heat pump works for you! Stay safe!
Hi Josh, and thank you. I can't wait to get the new ashp in and fitted. It should be very interesting to see how it all goes. Thanks mate, take care and stay safe. Terry.
I want to say your pond and setup look very nice and beautiful. Here in Arizona southwest USA, in the summer I have to spend a few dollars to fan my pond.
Hi mate, and thank you for your kind comment. The air source heat pump I'm getting will also cool water which sounds like what you need. Give me a shout if your interested in one, I might be able to help. thanks again, Terry.
Nice update hope the new heater works well for you. Stay safe well Thanks 🐟 Carol 🐟
Hi Carol, thank you. The new heater is ordered and paid for (which did make my eyes water lol) so I can't wait to get it fitted. You take care and stay safe, Terry.
Good idea to get the Air Source Heat Pump! We took the plunge this year and fitted a Duratech Dura10+. Best thing we’ve done. Our pond is 7200 gal and currently being kept at 15.5 deg C. Costing about £1.45 per day at the moment which doesn’t seem too bad as the temps have been dropping pretty low overnight lately. Will be looking out for the next video! 👍🏻
Hi mate, I thought it was about time I stopped messing around with pond heaters and did the job properly lol. I was looking at the Duratech heaters but ended up going for the 9kw Thermotec Inverter Air Source heater. Can't get it until the end of the month as their sold out, so waiting for the next batch to come in. I will start the video as soon as it arrives. thanks mate take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Terry, blimey £7 per day and it's not that cold yet, be really interesting to see the difference when you install the air source, considerably cheaper I would expect. You stay safe mate and thanks for the update. Regards Andy
Hi Andy, and thank you. I think that would have gone up to £10.00+ when the weather comes cold. It was only holding the temp 1 degree above ambient temp. Mind you, I think it could be a lot different with a decent stat on it. It will be interesting to see just what the air source heat pump does. thanks mate. take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Terry maybe in your next video you could tell how you salt your pond . Love the videos,keep them coming
Hi Terry, and thank you. I really don't put much salt in my pond at all. I normally run 8 good handfuls of salt. The koi will hardly know its there, and as winter prep comes I add another 8 handfuls. A hand full works out to around 100g so not much at all when you think some add 1lb per 100 gallon. You maybe know that salt is a very mild irritant to koi and this causes them to increase their slime coat. What you have to remember is salt wont disappear from the water with evaporation, It can only be removed by water changes. Hope this helps mate, thanks again and take care, Terry.
Another good video Terry. I must admit when you were fitting the heater I was thinking "That will be expensive". Only heard good things on Air Source heating so looking forward to that. Stay safe.
Hi mate, thank you. Always appreciated. I think the Cloverleaf heater would have ended up costing about £10.00 a day when the weather gets cold. Having said that, I think with a better external stat on it, it would be a lot different. thanks mate, take care and stay safe, Terry.
Hi Terry, it's now June 8th 2021 & I've not been getting any notifications from your RUclips channel, I love watching your videos, I think you're just the greatest guy ever with your hands on koi, back yard, info etc... videos and I was just wondering I haven't heard from Terry with notifications 🤷♀️ so I looked and seen and there not on (ALL) from you, so now I'm going to binge on all your videos for the next week and instead of loading up on all your comments, I'm going to write you at your Hotmail or Gmail but I will give a constant thumbs up on all your awesome hands on info Entertaining videos as I know every little bit helps and.... I can't forget... Hi to the misses... Hope all is well and going great!
Deb!🤪👍
Hi Deb's, not seen you for a while, I was getting worried. Thank you for your kind comments, it's always very much appreciated. I'm not sure just what's going on with RUclips, Like you I don't get any notifications of new releases from channels I'm subscribe to, and they can't seem to sort it out either. Fiona says Hi and hopes your well. Were all well here thank you. I hope all's well with you and your family. Thanks for your support Deb's, you take care and stay safe, Terry.
Ouch that's expensive Terry🙁 you've made me buy one of them electricity plug in meters now to check mine ! Luckily mines in the shed and sheds insulated and so is the grow pond. Still think because you had the heater on a straight through pipe that may of caused the stat issues . Instructions do state to put pipework in a u shape. But there's always a silver lining mate !! Can't wait to see the air source pump would love to have one of them little gems 💎 ..
Hi Mark, fitting the heater in the U shape is to stop any chance of an airlock in the heater as you'll know. But I had plenty of flow through it, which would have pushed out any air. I must admit, I am looking forward to getting the new ashp. If you ever think of buying one, give me a shout. I am now registered with the company to sell ashp's so I could do you a deal. Have a look at this: www.heatpumps4pools.com/product/thermotec-inverter-horizontal-heat-pumps-9kw-to-24kw/ thanks, Terry.
@@Wrighty that's great 👍 nice one Terry
lovely vid thanxs for all your help looking forward to the heat pump x
Hi Richard, thank you, good to hear you enjoy the videos. I can't wait to get the heater and get it installed. I'm like a child at Christmas lol. take care mate, Terry.
Awesome updates my friend! ~Eric
Thanks mate, I can't wait to get the new heater. take care mate, Terry.
@@Wrighty well keep us updated!
Will do mate, Terry.
Great show my friend.. Don't have heaters as you know but I don't miss your show. Everything looks great. Koi look excellent.
Hope you stop in for a visit as I just uploaded a koi nursery video on Sunday.
All the best my friend.
Hi Chris, and thank you. Wow! that's a massive nursery. I just had a look at your video, nice one mate. Take care and stay safe, Terry
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Thanks pal.. You as well
You always interest me look forward to your next project Terry
Hi Glenn, thanks mate. Hopefully the next video will be of the air source heat pump fitting. I can't wait to get it in now lol. Thanks again mate, Terry.
Thanks for sharing, really looking forward to seeing you install the Air Source Heat Pump and seeing the difference it makes. Such an interesting project you have, I was looking for something to watch and up pops a "Wrighty" video, perfect!
Hi mate, and thank you. I can't wait to get it now. It did make my eyes water a bit when I had to pay for it lol. I have gone for a good model. Should all be in the next video hopefully. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Thanks for filming Terry air heat pump or gas is the only way to go for heating look forward to seeing the fitting of it but happy to put the money into to heating the house and give the fish there winter down hear in Devon
Hi Martyn, I know what you mean mate, but every year I say I'm not heating the pond, but when I see the koi on the bottom in about 4c I feel real guilty lol. thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Know what you feel like Terry i do have this part of the Uk in hand down hear it has to be a bad winter to see water temps below 7 or 8 most of the time i can hold 9 to 10 near all winter
That's right mate, think I'll have to move down your part of the world. It's getting costly here lol. Take care mate, Terry.
Great upload Terry, thanks for sharing. I hope you told the wife the truth and you spent £100 on that Air Source Heat Pump ???
135 houses going up by me now on what used to be a farmers field, I share your pain.
Take care, stay safe Terry & family.
Hi mate, and thank you. I don't tell her the truth to save her from getting upset, bless her, lol. Sounds like were in the same boat mate with the building work. We've got it bad at the moment as their putting the roads in, and have a big vibrating roller going up and down all day. Plus 2 big JCB diggers working away next to our fence. Will be glad when it's all over, but that wont be for quite some time yet. Keep you and yours safe mate, take care, Terry.
Good luck with that Wrighty. I really hope the heat pump is a much more cost-effective solution.
Thanks mate, it might be a while before I get my money back, but at lest the job will be sorted out. Thanks mate, Terry.
Great video Terry, was looking at buying that cloverleaf heater but will give a miss in view of your findings, can’t wait to see your installation of your new heater, have been considering air source heat pump myself, not cheap buy any means but will be the dogs, keep well and safe. 👍👌
Hi Anthony, thank you. Adam Julian had the same problem with his Cloverleaf heater. He fitted a separate stat to his and it sorted it out: ruclips.net/video/VOJfMP8H_lQ/видео.html But their not cheap to run mate. Be OK on a smaller pond I would think. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
PS. If you do decide to get an ASHP give me a shout, I might be able to help mate. Terry.
Hi Terry, look forward to watching you fit the air source heater. The fish look happy under the covers and feeding well. Where did you find the pipe insulation from? I need some 1.5 inch insulation.
Hi Dave, thank you mate. I got the insulation on eBay. I don't know if you can find cheaper elsewhere but I didn't bother looking lol. Here's where I got mine: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Climaflex-Foam-Pipe-Insulation-Pipe-Lagging-Wrap-Roll-Large-Stock-Range/324003259999?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var= hope this helps mate, Take care, Terry.
Hi Terry great video update as usual with you getting air source heat pump I wondered what is the unit you have under your kitchen window looking at the unit looks from a distance like heat pump !!l lol I will be interested how you get on with your new heat pump and what the running costs will be because I know it will be a honest opinion then maybe I might take the plunge and get one myself for my pond.thanks👍🥶
Hi Mark, thank you. Always appreciated mate. The air source heat pump I have for the house is a Mitsubishi it does the central heating and hot water. I had to pay for the one I've ordered today, and must admit it did make my eyes water lol. But I think it's one of the best on the market at the moment. I can't wait to get it fitted. They can't be too bad as they've completely sold out and I'm having to wait 2 weeks to get one lol. I hope to get the fitting in the next video, fingers crossed. take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
I bought a Dream ASHP last year (around the £600 mark). I put an external thermostat on it as the in built one doesn't go low enough and I wanted to give the fish a 'winter' but without letting the temp drop too low. I never had covers on the pond so the heater worked quite hard at times. My one is a 5kW version so it has an input of 1kW. This year I've managed to make some covers (finished them this sunday just gone) and I've been logging the daily electric usage. Over the last few weeks I've averaged between £3.50 -£4.50 a day for the whole house usage and the pond is set at 15.5c with a 0.5 drop before the heater kicks in. We are heavy electric users any way but this is way way better than your £12 a day just for the heater. I cant tell what the pond heater is using on it's own as it isn't wired in a way I can measure just that. The wife went out for the day the other week and the cost dropped to £2.88 for the day (that was before I had the covers on). My heater sits about 18" above the water level (My pond is fully sunk in the ground) and the one problem I have is air locks in the heater whenever I do any work on it or the filter that protects it. Mine is run on an independent circuit with it's own pump in the pond and its own filter. It doesn't have a by pass at all. If I were you I would put a one way valve between the bypass and the heater. That would stop the problem with air locks. I have one on mine but I put it before the filter so I still get the problem if I work on the filter. I really must get around to swapping it round or adding another one on the correct side. The heaters also have a flow switch on them so you have to make sure there is enough water passing through it to keep it triggered. I would also leave the other heater fitted just in case you have problems with the ASHP at any time.
Hi Jim, thanks for the info mate. very much appreciated. You'll find the covers make a big difference to your pond temp. I did look at the Dream heaters, but I wanted the inverter type heat pump, which meant I had to save up for a bit longer. Mine will be set the same as yours and sit above the pond water level, so I will look out for airlocks, thanks for letting me know mate. I do have a non-return valve just before where the heater will be fitted that stops any backflow. I'm hoping my sieve filter will take out most of the dirt before it gets to the heater. I will leave the Cloverleaf heater in the line as a backup like you say. Thanks for the info mate, it's been very helpful, take care, Terry.
@@Wrighty unfortunately the dream pump was the only one I could afford at the time. As and when this one packs up then hopefully I'll be able to afford a better one. But I must say I've had no issues with it so far apart from the air locks
Hi Jim, I have to say I've not herd of any problems with the dream heater and the way it works. The case can get a bit tatty if not looked after but that's about it. Everybody I've spoke to say they really work well. Terry.
Hi Terry
Think I've deduced from comments section that you've bought the same make and size I'm interested in, I'm curious, we're you advised to run separate power supply, I thought they had a soft start system allowing it to run from 3 pin plug with 13 amp fuse? Major problem if I have to run separate power supply,
Be interesting to see how it restricts flow, as I run 2" pipework?
Great video as always and look forward to seeing you set it up.
Hi Marek, I've gone for the Thermotec Inverter 9kw. They are soft start like you say mate, but I had the breaker box in my shed and thought I'd use it and have the heater on it's own circuit. You don't need to have one. Drop me an email mate, I might be able to save you a pound or two on the heater. pondfilters@gmail.com Terry.
Great video, fish are looking good, bit of an eye opener the cost to run that heater ! Out of interest what percentage of salt do you have in your pond to help with their slime coat?
Hi Becks, and thank you. I had around 8 handfuls in there and as I run in my pond all the time, but I added another 8 hands full for the winter. I know it's a small amount and the koi will hardly know it's in there, but it must help a bit. Thanks again Terry.
@@Wrighty thanks Terry 😊
Hi terry, cloverleaf recommend a maximum flow of 6000litres through the heater for best efficiency. Maybe that may improve things until you get your ASHP.
Hi Luke, thanks mate. I wouldn't think there's much more going through mine. I have a 20,000 lph pump reduced to about 80% then split into 2 x 1.5" pipes. Allow for head pressure and that sounds about right. I don't think there's a problem with the heater at all mate. I think the problem is with the stat that runs it. I know of 4 people now that have had problem and put there's on a separate stat, and say their working a lot better. Thanks for the info mate, always appreciated, Terry.
Hi l dont know weather to heat mine or not my pool is 6,000 gallons good luck to you hope that you can get is sorted enjoying your videos
Hi Paul, heating a pond is not cheap to do mate I must admit. I just want to hold the temp above the 12c mark. My air source heat pump should be in my next video with a bit of luck, so it will give you some idea what's involved mate. Good to hear you enjoy the videos, thank you. Take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
I am running off an inkbird stat terry with a differential set at 0.3c seems to make a big difference pond holding 15c.
Hi Martyn, that's just what I thought mate. The Cloverleaf heater is ok, but the stat on it's not up to scratch. Glad you've got yours sorted out mate. You take care and stay safe, Terry.
Be interesting to see running costs comparison with air source system. Stay safe Terry, roll on spring.
Hi Martyn, that's right mate. It will be well interesting to actually know the cost of the air source heat pumps. I have ordered the inverter type which should be even better. thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Fascinating stuff! I've always fancied one of the heat exchange pumps.
I was toying with the idea of solar panels on my shed roof to power it. Obviously it would be a DIY installation. What do you think? The theory seems to work out.
~Alan ~
Hi Alan, Thank you. To be honest mate, I know nothing about solar power, sorry. It sounds good. Martyn from devonkoi ponds here on RUclips uses solar to power a lot of his pond pumps. He will know more than me mate, have a word with him. You can tell him I sent you. Sorry I can't help much. Terry.
@@Wrighty thanks for that Terry.
I'll check that out. I'm no solar panel expert either, but like yourself, I can turn my hand at most things and I'm always up for a challenge.
Just food for thought........ As you say, pond heating is an expensive business!
I'm looking forward to see your updates.
@@MrAlgar2000 Just a tip or two, your first step in determining if solar would work for you is your budget. Solar has the ability to be expensive to purchase. You would need to know how many watts of power your heat pump would run at full load, including the startup surge, so that you can size your system adequately. After that, you would need a battery bank so that you could run through the night or if the day is overcast, and an inverter to take the low voltage from the system, and make it into mains for the machinery to use. Alternately, you could pipe in a solar roof bypass for when the sun is up to heat water directly. I hope this helps, at least a little. Best of luck on your project! Stay safe out there!
That heater sounds expensive to operate. I think if I was in a colder climate, I could only afford to toss a wool blanket in the pond and make them all snuggle until Spring.
Hi mate, It would be nice if we could do that lol. Only another 3 months and the weather should start to warm up lol. Terry.
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Thanks Matt. Terry.
hi i have the same heater cloverleaf 1kw on a 1000 gallon pond covered and insulated pipe work. and the same plug in meter thing off ebay about 13 -14 quid. just for the same reason that you have to keep track of the costs. i am turning the pond over about once an hour and find that the heater kicks in for a few seconds at at a time . from 30 - 60 seconds each time . this is more cost effective once you have reached the temp reqiered . i have been keeping a log of the costs daily plus high and low outside temps . like last week we had a first frost of the year were we had a -1 at 4.30 am and the cost was 1.12 pounds for 24 hours from 7pm to 7pm . the pond temp held at 14
but most days at the moment with the temp held at 14 the costs have been between 0 to 60p a day. and total cost for the last 28 days have been 24.32.
i am planning on dropping the temp slowly over december to 10 deg over january and febuary and taking it back up in march to 14 un till ambient temp takes over . and keep feeding very small amounts of wheatgerm once a day while a 10 deg.
i did this last year and the koi were happy and eating every day with no health issues at all.
and a total cost of about 160 pound give or take a few pence . would cost more the replace one of my much loved koi.
please note you will not gain much growth at all at these temps. its just to make them go through the winter and not struggle. and so i can see them every day and check on them and give them a hand full of food..
this bit of info might help some one with the costs of heating to a minimum .
but you must be insulated
regards terry
Hi Terry, Thanks for the info, but that's just what I though mate. My pond of 2500 UK gallon is too much for it. I still think the stat will do the heater harm keep cutting in and out like it does, plus it will use more electric when it's cutting in because of the power surge when it first connects. A friend on here has fitted an external stat to his, and he says it works loads better. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Just a thought but is your water flow through the heater enough? I believe those heaters have a flow detector built in so if the flow isn’t enough it will cur out as a safety measure. Might be that your flow is just on the minimum limit so any variation would cause it to cut out. Only a thought but may be worth checking?
Hi mate. I have a 20,000 lph pump running at 85% which should be ok, but I thought the same as you. So I turned the stat up full and it didn't cut out. If I try to run it close to the temperature I want, it starts cutting in and out every few seconds. I might get another stat and see how that works. Thanks for your suggestion mate, Terry.
Ideally, how much a day do you realistically believe the air source pump will cost to run on your pond on average through the cold months?
Hi Alex, to be honest mate, I don't know for sure. I'm getting figures from people with ashp of £1.50 to £2.50 a day on average. It can't be any worse than the Cloverleaf lol. thanks mate, Terry.
@@Wrighty If that’s the case, working on a worst case scenario of £3 a day, that’s around £90 a month in a really cold year. 2 months £180. But then realistically no more than 4 weeks extreme cold, then 4 weeks average of around 7/8 degrees probably £45. My guess would be on average about £65 a month. What do you think? From what I have read, it’s more important to keep the water temperature stable than above 10dg C. My feeling is that if you can allow the water temperature to drop to 9dg C but then keep it there, your fish will still appreciate it. Mine dropped to around 7dg last year ( no heater)’ but the fish came out of winter just fine. The only issue is their immune system which takes a while to kick back in.
Hi Alex, The temp of between 8 and 12c is not good for the koi. Once the temp starts to drop below 12c the koi start to loose their immunity and the parasites and bacteria still thrive. Below 6c the bacteria and parasites die off. To heat 2500 gallon of water for around £60.00 a month is not to bad to avoid the sort of problems you could get with the koi. I have 30 koi in there which would take a lot of replacing. One bad bacterial infection could cause all sorts of problems for the rest of the year. I say each year, I'm not heating the pond, then when I see them in the 6 or 7c water I think, poor little devils lol. This year I've decided to go for it. I will see what keeping the pond at 15c costs, and if it's too much, I will drop it to 12c. thanks, Terry.
@@Wrighty OK, that makes sense to me.
Hi wrighty looked at one of them heaters but my pond with covers on and insulated is holding at 11 degrees. Doesn't seem worth it to spend 7 quid a day to raise it 2 degrees. To be honest if it raised it to 19 degrees for 7 quid over 24 hrs I'd give it a miss. You need a second hand air source heat pump. Love your vids keep them coming
Hi John, I think just the same as you mate, and every year I say I'm not heating the pond. Then when the pond temp drops to 5 or 6c, I think poor devils, I should have heated the pond lol. My pond at 2500 UK gallon is too big for the Cloverleaf heater. They really shouldn't say it will heat that amount of water. God knows what it would cost when the weather comes cold. I have mine on order and paid for now, so can't wait to get it. take care mate and stay safe, Terry.
@@Wrighty thankyou you 2. Yes in my opinion either cover and show the fish all seasons or heat to 15 plus to feed throughout. Good luck air source are much cheaper 2.50 a day max rather than 7
Hi John, It should be cheaper as it's the inverter type as well. Thanks mate, Terry.
The UK gets too cold for Koi? Or you just want the fish to be more active in winter?
Hi Stan. Koi can survive in very cold water, but it doesn't mean they like it. It does stress the koi. Below 12c a koi starts to lose it's immunity and bacteria and parasites are still thriving. Also our winters are too long, keeping koi in a stressed state. Terry.
The cost to run that heater is ridiculous
Bet you can't wait to get the air source can't wait for the video of it been fitted
Hi David, that's right mate. I think the heater is ok, it's the stat that's the problem. Can't wait to get the new ashp here, thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Hi Mate, Shame you having a head scratcher with your heater 🤔 looked at them myself but expensive running costs like all heaters for ponds Air Source are popular but buying them is a remortgage for most or argument with wife ☺️ Koi all look happy as always though mate hope you get to some sort of level with your heater takecare mate thanks for sharing
Hi Kev, and thanks mate. The cloverleaf heater might be ok on a smaller pond, but I still think they have a problem with the stat. I have solved the problem with the wife, don't tell her what it really cost lol. Every year I say, I'm not heating my pond, and every year when I see the poor devils in the cold on the bottom I feel really guilty lol. You take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
i use the sun to heat mine stay well
that ways much cheaper lol. take care, Terry
Great Video Terry. Something doesn't seem right with the readings. It seems very expensive. Looking forward to the ASHP.
Hi mate, I know what you mean, but it's not the actual heater. I think the problem is the stat that's running it. I now know 4 people that have put this heater on a separate stat and say it's much much better. I'm looking forward to getting my ashp, it should be very interesting. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Hello mate great video as always, Adam Julian RUclips videos show him having the same problem, he upped the flow and it solved the problem, he had it fitted to a grow on tank, maybe worth a look, what the video was called I don’t know sorry, all the best Matt
Hi Matt, thanks mate. I did see one of Adam's videos where he fitted an external stat to his Cloverleaf heater ruclips.net/video/VOJfMP8H_lQ/видео.html
as he had the same problem with the stat. If I turned the stat up full it worked fine. Thanks mate and take care, Terry.
Ive said it before Terry you need to lose that harbour build an inside pond so you can move your fish inside over winter. Grow some monster fish that way...and before you say it your wife will be fine and she will come round to the idea i promise 😅
Hi Khi, Lol, You've got more faith in her than I have lol. I suggested boarding it in as a summer house, thinking I could have the koi in there in the winter. She saw straight through me lol. The problem is, she knows me too well mate. take care, Terry.
Lol, That's the problem mate. She knows I'd have it full of Japanese koi fry lol. take care mate, Terry.
Hi terry are you interested in sell you old uv?
Hi Glen, I hadn't really thought about it mate. I don't think I'll want it so, I can do. Not sure how I'd post it. I don't have anything to pack it in, and it would want packing well as there's a brand new bulb to go with it. Terry.
@@Wrighty are you towards kings lynn as I’m that way on Sunday
Hi mate, I'm 2 ml out of Spalding. PE12. Not too far from Kings lynn mate. Terry.
@@Wrighty Hi Terry yeah that’s not too far mate how much was you thinking of Terry for the UV ? And just off chance Terry going back awhile back now you had a hair pump for sale do you still have that for sale mate to?
Hi Glenn, drop me an email mate, pondfilters@gmail.com
Hi Terry, nive just fitter a thermotec inverter 9 kw , its a brilliant bit of kit, whatever heat pump you choose, please do not buy a dream ashp, they are absolutly rubbish. regards
Hi mate, I got exactly the same impression on the Dream heaters. I saw one 2 year old and it looked knackered. I have mine on order and paid for now, so can't wait to get it. I've gone for the same as you. Take care and stay safe mate, Terry.
I've had a Dream pump for the last year and it still looks as good as new. I know they are not the best but then they are less than half the price of the top brands. You have to go with what you can afford.
I love your channel but you don't need to heat the water for koi as they are cold water fish and will do much better if you let them have ice cold running water all winter. That will keep them healthy and fresh and free of parisites. I have been running my ponds all winter in Canada in -30 and -40 below Celsius and never ever had a sick or dead koi ever. Some of my fish are 30 years old. Get rid of heater and get your money back as you don't need a heater in the UK. Heating a pond will just allow more parisites to multiply. Trust me, been keeping koi in n Canada very healthy since 1991.
Hi Colleen, Good to hear you enjoy the channel and thank you for your support. I've been keeping koi since I was 21 years old and am now 70. Everybody has their own idea on koi keeping and how they should be kept. Did you know that below 4c, koi can actually get hyperthermic, and below 2c can actually freeze on the inside. Parasites only become a problem when their immune system becomes week. This starts below 13c down to 8c, after 8c the parasites begin to die. if the water temperature is kept above 13c, the koi keep their immune system and parasites are not a problem. Koi really don't like cold water, so if I can keep them happy I will. This is just my view on keeping koi. I will give them a winter and switch the heater off for 1 month, but I will keep the pond temperature above 4c. Thank you for your comment. Terry.
@@Wrighty not true. My pond water is always barely above freezing and koi are all healthy and fine. That's a myth and I know it. Koi will not freeze . Water of 2 degrees as that's about my pond temperature most all winter. You can go back seven years on my channel and see the same koi in ice cold water every Winter. You don't know because you never seen koi in ice cold running water. Koi will only freeze if you allow the pond to freeze over but running water keeps pond from freezing shut and keeps hole open in ice. I know you guys in UK all think the same, meanwhile in North America many of my koi friends keep there koi outside all year round too.
£7 a day! Think I'll leave my pond with no heater.
Hi mate, that's right mate, it's not cheap to heat a pond. Thanks, Terry.