I forgot to duck after uploading this. It's ok tho you have every right to disagree! Tons of valid reasons as to why Soto's not worth 700 million, I just wanted to share my thoughts
Tell em'. People have forgotten that RUclips is an entertainment platform. And I find your opinion entertaining, so while I don't agree with you on this one, thank you. It was entertaining and now I have a new perspective to chew on.
Bro love your videos as always, but Ohtani’s worth is not solely based on his skills but the market he brings with. He brings the entire Asian baseball market behind him and especially the Japanese. Japanese will watch and buy everything that has Ohtani on it.
Soto is 7 years younger than Judge and his skillset/body type will probably age better than Judge, so he deserves far more. He's not getting $700m but a $600m contract with zero deferrals is within reason. I expect him to get the largest contract in North American pro sports in terms of present value.
I mean, Ohtani got his contract coming off of TJ surgery, and that's the second major I jury he suffered in his pitching arm. I'm not a Dodgers fan, but I hope he goes on to pitch at a high level again, but people need to prepare for the not unlikely scenario that Ohtani will be a perpetually injured player when he pitches. Given that, the age difference, and the fact he had zero playoff experience compared to Soto,who if not for Strasburg getting it, would have been a World Series MVP. I'm not saying Soto is better than Ohtani, he isn't. But he's a much, MUCH safer bet than Ohtani as far as a long term contract not being awful by the end. He has almost no injury history and consistently gets better, and has not really even entered his prime. He's going to get better the next 4-6 seasons.
That’s stupid. The contract isn’t based on performance alone, but how much revenue the player generates for the team. It’s business. Ohtani is pretty much paying for his own contract. It’s cheap. Merch, ad space and ticket prices have ballooned. They added a number of new sponsors from Japan and the viewership has skyrocketed. Ohtani is someone people from all over fly to see. Add to that the records he’s broken on his rehab year. Not even close.
This isn't about Pennie's and dollars for owners of teams in major media markets. Owning the team is a plaything for owners of Dodgers, Mets, Yankees. So it doesn't have to balance. If it was the DBacks or the Rangers, yes, you have to be able to pay for the contract with increased revenues, but this isn't the issue for the owners of the big three. For then, it's about pride and desire for championships. It's why Judge, a player who will not age well got the contest he got last year. Yes, Judge sells well globally (you see it here in Europe, Dutch and Germans wearing Judge jerseys). But it's not a good contract longterm. But it increases chance for WS in the next 5 years. Otani will always "out earn" Soto, but over the length of contract for both players, the increased chance of a WS is similar. And for Steinbrenners, Cohen, and such...that fact matters more than what they can sell since they have more money than god. Again, the business man says "no way." The prideful billionaire says, "I will dominate the world." It's why the Pads had to trade him and the Yanks just need to fill out the check.
I haven’t seen a minute of this video yet but I know that whatever he says won’t matter because Soto isn’t nearly as valuable as ohtani at fully healthy but I could see him setting a record for a position player contract, there’s just no universe that he gets $700 million without deferring a large amount of it
I have to disagree. I really don't think Juan Soto deserves Shohei Ohtani's contract. Don't get me wrong Soto is a hell of a player and come offseason, he will probably get a fat contract. I personally think Shohei is a better hitter, but even if I were to concede that Soto is a better hitter, he doesn't PITCH. Shohei's $700m is an evaluation of his talent as a hitter AND a pitcher. Even if Shohei wasn't a pitcher, he is still raking in cash for the Dodgers... an obscene amount of cash. He's served the Dodgers organization millions of Japanese ball fans on a silver platter. The Dodgers will make every penny back and some from Shohei's contract. No other player deserves Shohei's contract IMO.
Shohei makes money for the dodgers Soto don’t. See all the Japanese tourists came to dodgers stadium, does Soto brings Dominican to Yankees stadium ? Hell no, Soto only deserve same money as Judge
I am Dominican and to say Soto deserves Ohtani money is just ludicrous. Soto is a good hitter. Ohtani is a good hitter, base stealer and pitcher. There is no one playing or possibly that ever played ever like Ohtani. Give Soto Judge, Harper money. Maybe a little more cause of inflation 😂
I mean the only thing Soto has on Ohtani is age. Ohtani is a better hitter, better baserunner, and pulls more viewer. Oh and he is an elite starting pitcher who would pull a premier salary if that was all he did. Unless Soto can pull the some insane mindgames on the teams giving him offers, then they would be insane to give him an Ohtani deal.
I disagree for 3 main reasons 1) Ohtani is more productive as a position player than Soto 2) Ohtani also pitches at a Cy Young level when healthy (TJ surgery notwithstanding) 3) Ohtani brings in way more attention and especially money for whoever is employing him Soto is great, well on his way to a Hall of Fame career. But Ohtani transcends the game and is the closest thing to a real living legend society has seen since before the internet went mainstream
Both of u dummy’s above me never compare a ring less loser who never preforms in playoff to a top 5 lefty of all time get out of here remember sotos already a champion mike trout won’t even come close to the championship series 😂
@@tomoyakadoEven that's a big stretch. Trout was the most valuable player every single year for 10 straight seasons. Even if you remove Ohtani from the league, Soto still is not that.
@@skidrat55 true I am saying at best even if you want to argue that Soto is worth it the only way is that you could argue Soto is only 25 and at best his potential would at best be worth trouts but I do agree with you there
Judge was better than Soto in every single offensive category. People say he’s only 26, but I think they’re being too optimistic that he’ll be better than Judge in the future. Anything more than 500 mil for Soto is overvalued.
No no no. He should get 400 mil. Bread the record for a “one way” player. But to say he deserves Ohtani who IS THE BEST HITTER AND A TOP 10 PITCHER is hilarious
@@nickr3441 Not remotely in the same level as Shohei. Shohei was swarmed by the masses in Korea and Japan at the airport or during transportation. You won't see the same kind of attention to Soto outside USA.
Soto does NOT DESERVE Ohtani money. Ohtani transcends all of American baseball. He’s bigger than anyone in Japan. That’s a HUGE market. Biggest selling merch in baseball. Soto won’t ever come close to his sales, hence his contract shouldn’t be close to Ohtani for the business aspect alone.
I think Juan Soto will get a massive contract given how good he is and how young. But no way hell get a contract like Ohtani since he doesn't pitch, and for the fact he doesn't bring ANOTHER COUNTRY of viewership. More importantly though, hes going to sign with the Dodgers on a pretty big deal and defer a ton of it just like Ohtani so they can play together. My best guess hell get a 500mill for 12-13 years.
Soto can't field or run. He can barely play RF in Yankee Stadium. Put Soto on the mound, throw 100mph, and strikeout Mike Trout with a 91mph sweeper. Soto is a *hitter* and one of the best, but he's not in Shohei's league. To be fair, no one is.
No he doesn’t, Shohei besides the fact that he’s a two way player a two time MVP soon to be 3, he brings way more value off the field. He has an entire country rooting for him and a lot of Japanese money flowing into the Dodger organization just for Shohei. He’ll make the Dodgers that money back within a few years. Shohei makes $40+ million a year off endorsements alone, no one else in baseball can come close to that. He’s a world wide recognized athlete. Juan Soto is good very good but he’s not Ohtani. I see him getting $500 million no more than $600 tho. I see the Mets giving him that money tho
I think another factor that might be hard for him right now is name value, yes he’s a good player but I feel like the media doesn’t put him as a star player yet compared to Judge and Ohtani let alone sponsors they bring in so I would say if he is to get Ohtani money, he needs to be constant mvp or breaking multiple records. Maybe in the near future where he could be constant and possibly surpass Judge as a hitter but as for now I don’t think he’s worth as that much Respect your opinion though
Personally would disagree. Shohei Ohtani getting $700,000,000 wasn’t solely because he can win games. It was also because Shohei Ohtani gives the Dodgers and MLB as a whole a lot more revenue, so even if he bombs in LA, he’s still worth it. Juan Soto just doesn’t have that type of star power. Personally I would give him a 13-15 year contract worth 550-650mil (and before people say this is basically Ohtani money Ohtani is for 10 years. Technically 20 but the Dodgers are getting 10 years of production from him)
No way bro actually said Soto deserves 700m 💀. Look man, Yankees stadium field is like a Lego version of a real baseball field in comparison, his defense was average at best and tracking sucked, so you can write him up to be a DH by 2 season from now. No even as a 26 year old Soto does not deserve 700m, if anything on the high end is worth $490m because you paying for a glorified DH who on average will hit 3.2 times a game and can’t run bases to save his career (yanks don’t practice base running). I respect everything he’s been able to accomplish but Soto is literally Max muncy mixed Luis Arraez, and that’s Phenomenal for batting but everything else is mid at best. Yea he’s made good plays while fielding but his ball tracking is technically below average which is overkill to pay $500m for.
I made way too many grammatical errors 🤦🏻♂️, either way the video was still good and yeah honestly if Soto gets 700 he deserves it because his stats batting wise prove he’s elite and a unicorn, that’s exactly why I said he’s half Muncy and Arraez, bros eagle eye is insane and will definitely be a winner until his career is done.
I actually bought the kòse soap they advertised ohtani on, it’s literally like dove but it’s actually butter smooth on the face. 💀 it was $30 but honestly it’s worth it.
Dude... Shohei has the world's 4th largest economy and East Asian market behind him. the deals/popularity he brings, the markets he can appeal to guarantee a return on investment. Soto is from a poor Carribbean island. No corporations, no market. Nothing. He can only penetrate/represent a much smaller diaspora. The money coming in is galaxies apart.
I'm probably one of the few that agrees with you. When it comes to Soto, you're never going to see a pitcher or a 5 tool player like Ohtani, who I agree is the best player in baseball right now. However, you're getting an ascending, already elite hitter who's proven he elevates his play when it matters most. He's definitely the most electric player of this generation (More so than Ohtani and Elly) and he's shown it time and time again on the biggest stage, against the best pitchers. He's also right where he belongs in Nyc where Dominicans will gladly ride for him the way the Japanese ride for Ohtani in LA.
@@jaytone8134You just said more electric player than Ohtani😂 Soto is not electric, he dosent even sell Merch or jersey domestically despite Dominicans.. Seriously, people don’t know who he is and he wasn’t even popular in SD..maybe you never go anywhere from where you are…
@@mirikaku5811 You’re very weird going this hard on a comment made weeks ago. No one can currently do what Ohtani can, I’m not saying otherwise, but imo Soto is the most electrifying player at the plate and he’s proven it time and time again since he was 20 years old batting in the biggest stage. You can’t deny he’s a top 5 player right now and he’s certainly known as such. The value and marketability is there and can be maximized if you put him in New York, that’s all I’m saying. The MLB is gonna try its hardest to promote Ohtani as much as possible, especially with him being the first Japanese superstar since Ichiro. I’m simply saying you can justify that with Soto in NY
@@jaytone8134nahhhh Shohei's market is not just limited to Japanese fans. Like he's known (not as widely known as those popstars though) in Southeast Asia, South Korea, and China (even if they have different platforms) that's just in our demographics. Not sure about the other continents - I even have to pay for the MLB YT viewing to watch Dodger's games (and that's PER game) imagine the revenue he pulls. Soto? Nah
I love Juan Soto. I am a Nats fan, and we would not have beaten Houston in 2019 without Juan's MASSIVE bat. He hit two homers that have not landed yet, and against the best pitchers in the world. However, he does not toe the rubber every five days and throw 99-100 as a starting pitcher. It's really that simple. Shohei Ohtani is TWO players in one. The Unicorn. One of a kind. Mid-$500MiL+whatever happens against the Dodgers to spice it up.
He shouldn’t earn MORE than trout trout was a better player at every level (hitting, running, fielding) while winning 2 MVPs and having more higher finishes than Soto has when trout got his contract if trout is better than Soto with the same years he shouldn’t earn more
Experts are calculating that Othani will bring the mlb 770 million dollars in revenue this year. I’m sorry but Soto is a generational player but he does not deserve othani money. Also, othani pitches.
Already estimate by Forbes Japan end September, Ohtani has brought in to the Dodgers 700M in Japanese Multi year ad contracts. (Not including merch sales, tickets, tourism and Broadcasting proceeds from Japan)
Shohei is a one of a kind talent that makes him literally two baseball players! Soto is a generational talent but what are his chances of winning a batting title, mvp, and the Cy Young while hitting 40 home runs and stealing 40 bases...at least! Any team that would pay the same contract to Soto that Shohei earned needs to study the stats, they aren't even close!
Nah man, Soto is not getting $700 million. $500? Sure. I think a 10 year, $50 mil/year deal is definitely in the cards (with lots of deferred money of course). But Soto is ONLY a batter. He carries no fielding value and no pitching value.
To say Soto doesn't carry no fielding value is insane! Ohtani is just a DH doesn't even touch the field besides batting. Soto beats Ohtani in that category even on his worse day man.
I firmly believe that he will get a contract on the high 500m in 15 years. If he wins another WS and the MVP; its 100% sure that will be a 600m contract
@@chriisclutch8472 bait or mental retardation?. OHTANI FOUNDED 50/50 AS A REHABBING PITCHER. Hes going to pitch next year while still going to hit close to .300. Soto aint even better than judge LMAO
@@chriisclutch8472 Ohtani didn't touch the field because he's a rehabbing pitcher. Joe Musgrove just had a TJ. Imagine him (although Ohtani is a better pitcher than Musgrove) coming back next season with 50-50. Let that sink in.
From a business perspective, it's not even close. Ohtani is a cultural phenomenon in multiple cultures with cash and coverage pouring in from across the Pacific as well as immense popularity in the the United States while accomplishing multiple milestones that were thought impossible just a few years ago. Soto... isn't.
He doesn’t pitch and he doesn’t command the Global market like Ohtani. I bought Japanese Cat food because of Ohtani. Yeah that’s 700 milly. I will buy nothing because of Soto, but he deserves the 2nd highest MLB contract.
What does glazing mean ? I show them this video. Soto is a great player, but 700M is insanity. Shohei is way more valuable not only on court but off court is even more. You can debate the dodgers already made 500M + this season alone cuz of shohei. Soto is a great player but at most 500M. If he was a great defender i would pay him 600M because he doesnt disapear in post season. But hes not.
The Dodgers could've gave Shohei a billion dollar contract and they still would be able to get that money back. He's the most marketable player in the sport and he brings a lot of eyes to the team he's playing on. Japanese companies and their ads go wherever Shohei decides to go. The only thing you get from Soto is an amazing hitter and that's pretty much it. You can make an argument he deserves Judge's contract, even though Judge is still the better player, but no one else besides Shohei is worth anything near $500 mil, let alone $700 mil.
Forbes Japan published estimated Dodgers income from dozen Multi year Japanese advertising contract as of September generated S700M. (Not including Merch, tickets, tourism and Japanese LIVE Broadcasting rights)
You have NO IDEA how contract is offered. Contract money is determined not just based on on-the-field performance, but also based on off-the-field performance as well. The reason why Dodgers got to be able to offer Ohtani $700 million is two-fold: 1. Ohtani was willing defer $680 million out of $700 million for the period of 2034 to 2043 year, which brings down the value of contract to $480 million in present value. 2. Ohtani brings more than $70 million to Dodgers as additional revenue annually in a way of increased ad money, Japanese TV rights, increased merchandise revenue, increased stadium ticket revenue, e.t.c. Ohtani himself has the highest endorsement income of $65 million in 2024 while Bryce Harper $7 million as the second place. How much did Soto make on it ? He is nowhere to be seen on top 10 players list. He has insignificant star power to bring additional revenue to the ball club. No matter how talented Soto may be on the field of baseball, there’s NO WAY that Soto will be offered Ohtani money, therefore. At the end of the day baseball is business. Soto’s value will be determined based on his business value.
Biggest problem is when you give ONE single player that kind of money (except for Ohtani who BRINGS in real dollars - already 700M this year by Japanese multi year Ad contracts and paid his 10year contract in his first season), you will cripple and jeopardize the ability to add good players. Since Soto can’t field and baseball needs more than one star to win..
You know someone lives inside the baseball bubble when they claim Soto deserves Ohtani money. Step outside it and you realize Ohtani is the only global superstar in baseball, and generates exponentially more money for his team than someone like Soto. Not to mention Ohtani is just objectively more valuable on the field. Back to pitching next season, and even this year as just a DH he had more fWAR than Soto
In 2018 2 players started their MLB career. 1st player career stat line as of today: 36.5 WAR/3280 AB/934 H/201 HR/.285 BA 2nd player career stat line as of today: 43.8 WAR/3119 AB/878 H/225 HR/.282 BA Pretty similar numbers but notice how the 1st player has 161 more AB than the 2nd yet the 2nd player has more WAR and home runs while being slightly behind on hits and BA. Oh yea I forgot to mention that 2nd player is a starting cy young level pitcher in Shohei Ohtani and 1st player is Juan Soto. So in conclusion, NO. Juan Soto does not deserve Shohei Ohtani money. Dont even get me started on their market value to their franchises and to the league. But it's not a knock on Soto because NO ONE in MLB deserves Shohei Ohtani money but Shohei Ohtani
Bro I am a FULL blown Soto fan. I'm a Yankee and I am Dominican so I support him to and through, but there is no way he deserves Shoei money.. Soto is not a good fielder, not a good base runner, and bad at stealing. PLUS shoei pitches at a very high level, which Soto also doesn't do... Soto should get something like 515M at 13-14 years which would put him around 40M a year.. More than enough, more than fair
Finally, a sane youtuber speaks facts 👏👏👏. Yes, I 100% agree. In fact, we should pay EVERY player one billion dollars. Even the ones that are not free agents. That's right. Uno billiano. I said it. I said it cuz I ain't afraid of no owner. Any less and it wouldn't be fair, cuz, you know, they got expenses and sheet.
Umm, no. As good as Soto is, he's never won an MVP. Meanwhile, Judge will win his second MVP after this season. Are you saying Soto is worth more than Judge? If so, that's absolutely delusional.
Subscriber here. Generally love your videos, and even appreciate when you take a more controversial stance on a topic. But here? You’ve gone too far. I’d venture as far as to call this out as rage baiting. Aside from any of that, you’re just not even flirting with a valid point here. Soto has some talent, a lot of it. However, he’s setting a horrific example! He played a significant role in the selfish play in San Diego. If that’s too far of a reach, he’s been inconsistent. His flash any attitude are an unfortunate example. Taking to social media to air his laundry with the Nats is just gross. Shohei is class all the way around. He also is an exceptional, once in a generation player. To suggest that Soto deserves this is laughable. It’s just not true.
Been waiting for someone to make this vid. That moment was legendary. Soto was on every single pitch and thats what he was saying at bat. They just werent what he was looking for. He wanted that fastball. He forced him to throw it
The reason is because Ohtani's contract is maybe 50% based on ability and the other 50% is how many viewers he draws in. The MLB is probably averaging the highest viewership numbers ever because of Ohtani and its only Ohtani. Japan and most of America isnt tuning in to watch every Yankees game and they have Judge and Soto. Ohtani is on a different level of marketability. Its not even close. Im not even a dodgers fan. I hate them because i like the Padres. Theyre easily our biggest rival and even im watching ever Dodgers game just to watch Ohtani.
This is a stupid video. Juan is great and a 400 mil player. But the revenue he brings in pales in comparison to ohtani. The amount of ads Japanese companies bring the dodgers is insane...and their economy is far bigger than the Dominican Republic 's. Ohtani is the better player overall and brings in way more money because of his star power. Not even close. If Juan Soto gets 700 mil it would be over 17 years.
Shohei has 3 reasons why no one is worth even half that much. Top 3 hitter, top 3 pitcher, that alone is worth like 700mil for two players, but ADD ON the Japanese viewership and that adds like 200mil worth of revenue and fans and exposure, not even close. Literally not close and I hate when people say “not even close” but this is one of the few times I’ll say it
I'm a Yankee fan but I don't think he should get 600mill+ bc 1instead the banks could build up there bullpen 2 people just thing because teams are willingly giving players (dodgers) 700mill so the Yankees should also
What an incredible breakdown, it was painful because he’s no longer a national but at least he got away from those losers in San Diego. God bless this man and what he’s doing for baseball.
I would love to see either New York team offered that kind of contract with possibly no defferred money. Good if that contract worth for them but also the possibility it will shackle their payroll 😌
I remember Soto was in the audience of an episode of Desus & Mero right after the Nats championship run. They’re both Yankees fans. Soto was a Nat. I’m a Mets fan, I was sickened by the whole thing. Years later, he’s taking the Yanks to the World Series. I would love for Soto to become a Met next year but I don’t think it will happen. I think he’ll use Cohen to raise his price and remain with the Yanks or go elsewhere.
I'm a Lifetime Yankees fan and the way I see it if Soto produces what Reggie Jackson produce back in the 77-78 Series then we can talk Max Contract $$$$💵💰💵
Soto deserves a lot, but not as much as Ohtani. His contract isn't just based on performance alone, it was an investment on Ohtani the brand and all the international pull that comes with it. Which Soto just cant compete with, they're both stars but there's certainly levels to that.
Ohtani’s contract will never be matched by anyone ever again because only one player can be worth the price and have his contract paid off in the first year of it and he is going to bring more money into the team,city and the players country.
Dude, there's no amount of arguments, no amount of videos that could convince me that Soto deserves $700 Million. Shohei is on a league of his own, like it or not. Soto cannot pitch, especially not at an ace level, in addition to being a power hitter and able to play the outfield. Not only that, Shohei is not just a 2-way superstar, he's a BRAND, AN ICON! Casuals who rarely watch baseball are learning the name Shohei Ohtani! He's soon to become Major League Baseball's Michael Jordan. Not only that but he's also pulling MILLIONS of viewers from overseas. Half the population of Japan is now watching MLB games early in the morning because of him. When you think of Major League Baseball, you don't think of Juan Soto, you think of SHOHEI OHTANI and the Los Angeles Dodgers! And yes, Soto is a great player, he deserves a lot of money, just not $700 Million. And if you're willing to pay him that, then you might as well pay Shohei $1 Billion.
If anything, Sho is underpaid specially after his performance this season with literally zero mound appearance 😅 Dodgers is drowning with money from him alone.
Remember you never get what you deserve but what you have the leverage to negotiate, and Juan Soto has a lot of leverage to command a crazy contract akin to Ohtani.
I only know soto is better than judge, the guy us a beast since came in to the league. And his stats in regular season and play off don change, now othanis contract is a pitcher/hitter contract we might never see that contract again , also the guy come with 30m+ fans from japon.
I think he deserves Shohei money too; aside from his pure talent, and mental strength, he is still so young! He will be in his prime for like another 6 years! Yes he does not pitch, still... The first player since Shohei to get paid $700 mil should be Juan Soto.
If Ohtani was solely a position player like Soto, I’d say yes, OF COURSE… but the fact that Ohtani pitches too, and well, I should add, is why he deserves way more money than Soto. He’s automatically twice as valuable since he can do both, as long as it doesn’t affect him health-wise, all the better!
I still remember thinking to myself when Soto hit those bombs at Yankee Stadium before he ever became a Yankee(Both when he was with the Nats and the Padres) I was lowkey thinking... This dude is a future Yankee... And then the next thing yk he got traded to the Yankees
"Deserves" is always a tough thing to itemize when it comes to sports contracts. Otani will give the Dodgers the Japanese market they can exploit. And he's a great player on a HOF trajectory if he stays healthy (tears for Mike Trout's greatness). From a financial perceptive Otani will always be more valuable. Sadly the Latin market doesn't have the financial marketplace for exploitation like Japan. But, if you feel Soto will bring you 3-5 more WS wins, and you control the largest media market in the world...Soto is worth a billion dollars and the Yanks owners can pay it. So, if I'm the GM of the Yankees and I have a 26 year old who took a sad 2023 team and took them to the WS...I'd let Boras fill in the numbers. Financially it will pay likely but it will probably bring you more trips to October and that means you keep owning New York.
Soto has already won a world series, and got the Yanks over the hump and into the world series. Could possibly help the Yanks beat the Dodgers. Soto is a proven playoff performer.
I don't even know if Shohei deserves Shohei's contract... I mean, it's just insane amounts of money that all of these players are making. It's hard for someone like me to ever see why anyone needs that much money. But in any case, as a Jays fan, I hope the ownership is prepared to offer him whatever it takes! They need good players who can hit. It was painful to watch them this year, especially. They also need new management, though.
Shohei brought in according to Forbes estimate already 700M by end September dozen in multi year Japanese advertising contract to the Dodgers..YOU don’t think he is worth… The dude is playing for free since he already brought in entire 10 years salary in revenues.. He is GRAVELY UNDERPAID 😂
People don't understand that Soto is already legendary and still arguably has not hit his prime. You are going to pay him because you think he is still going to be better. Ohtani arm most likely won't hold up which would put him as DH for most of his career. Soto has always been available to play.
Ohtanis arm won’t hold…don’t you think Sotos fielding won’t hold up and he will NEED to be a DH..that’s a helluva price for DH. WHILE the other DH, Ohtani can pitch on upper echelon level..but if he can’t anymore, he WILL no longer be DH but a position player!!
I agree with 14yrs contract worth $570M, but not 700M. one way player don't deserve except in many years from 15yrs+. Sotto can't add up revenues that Ohtani could.
Ohtani deal is basically 460m with inflation. And he is 10times bigger and even a better player than Soto. Ohtani brings a billion dollars with ticket sales, views, merchandise and marketing while Soto brings penny compared to him
Soto is not 2 elite players in one like Shohei. He's a good hitter, sure, one of the best to play the game, but he does not deserve Shohei money. He's barely an average fielder. That dude looks like he's playing on ice sometimes in the outfield. OR even a basestealing threat.
Ohtani has much better slug. Soto has slightly higher OBP. Soto doesn't play much defense and isn't improving. Soto is slower. Soto can't pitch. Not sure how Soto gets more than the $46m AAV that Ohtani got. $42m max.
Can you imagine how many times Pedro Martinez would have hit him if they played at the same time? Verlander was telling Soto not to do those things, but Pedro wouldn't have said a word. He'd just nod back at Soto put one on his ribs
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I forgot to duck after uploading this. It's ok tho you have every right to disagree! Tons of valid reasons as to why Soto's not worth 700 million, I just wanted to share my thoughts
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Tell em'. People have forgotten that RUclips is an entertainment platform. And I find your opinion entertaining, so while I don't agree with you on this one, thank you. It was entertaining and now I have a new perspective to chew on.
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Tbh, they should pay Juan Soto a billion dollars he is the best hitter of all time.
Bro love your videos as always, but Ohtani’s worth is not solely based on his skills but the market he brings with.
He brings the entire Asian baseball market behind him and especially the Japanese.
Japanese will watch and buy everything that has Ohtani on it.
Soto deserves something like Judge's contract, not Ohtani's. Soto doesn't pitch like a cy young contender when healthy
i would say more than judge's contract, judge is good and all but sucks during post-season, soto is usually ALWAYS good
ohtanis contract isnt crazy considering its deferred. if yankees wanna win they should give him a similar contract or maybe more and just defer it.
Soto is 7 years younger than Judge and his skillset/body type will probably age better than Judge, so he deserves far more.
He's not getting $700m but a $600m contract with zero deferrals is within reason. I expect him to get the largest contract in North American pro sports in terms of present value.
Not to mention he's not good at defense
I mean, Ohtani got his contract coming off of TJ surgery, and that's the second major I jury he suffered in his pitching arm. I'm not a Dodgers fan, but I hope he goes on to pitch at a high level again, but people need to prepare for the not unlikely scenario that Ohtani will be a perpetually injured player when he pitches.
Given that, the age difference, and the fact he had zero playoff experience compared to Soto,who if not for Strasburg getting it, would have been a World Series MVP.
I'm not saying Soto is better than Ohtani, he isn't. But he's a much, MUCH safer bet than Ohtani as far as a long term contract not being awful by the end. He has almost no injury history and consistently gets better, and has not really even entered his prime. He's going to get better the next 4-6 seasons.
That’s stupid. The contract isn’t based on performance alone, but how much revenue the player generates for the team. It’s business. Ohtani is pretty much paying for his own contract. It’s cheap. Merch, ad space and ticket prices have ballooned. They added a number of new sponsors from Japan and the viewership has skyrocketed. Ohtani is someone people from all over fly to see. Add to that the records he’s broken on his rehab year. Not even close.
Otani is defer.so the contract value is not $700 million.
Otani is deferred, so the contract value is not $700 million.
Thank God that finally we have someone who understands finance 101 !
Someone who gets it
This isn't about Pennie's and dollars for owners of teams in major media markets. Owning the team is a plaything for owners of Dodgers, Mets, Yankees. So it doesn't have to balance. If it was the DBacks or the Rangers, yes, you have to be able to pay for the contract with increased revenues, but this isn't the issue for the owners of the big three. For then, it's about pride and desire for championships. It's why Judge, a player who will not age well got the contest he got last year. Yes, Judge sells well globally (you see it here in Europe, Dutch and Germans wearing Judge jerseys). But it's not a good contract longterm. But it increases chance for WS in the next 5 years.
Otani will always "out earn" Soto, but over the length of contract for both players, the increased chance of a WS is similar. And for Steinbrenners, Cohen, and such...that fact matters more than what they can sell since they have more money than god.
Again, the business man says "no way." The prideful billionaire says, "I will dominate the world." It's why the Pads had to trade him and the Yanks just need to fill out the check.
Soto deserves a lot. But can he strike out Mike Trout?
Damn! Imagine the man who strikes out Mike fucken Trout did a 50/50 🤯
He can take his team farther than Mike trout ever will. U sound dumb asf
Sadly given Trout's back and such...he probably can.
But...that was probably the best moment of any World Baseball Classic ever.
or hit 43 jacks in the angels lineup?lol
I haven’t seen a minute of this video yet but I know that whatever he says won’t matter because Soto isn’t nearly as valuable as ohtani at fully healthy but I could see him setting a record for a position player contract, there’s just no universe that he gets $700 million without deferring a large amount of it
Bro. Soto doesn’t have as much pull (aka money coming in) as Shohei, and doesn’t pitch
Didn’t ask 🤦🤷♂️ juan Soto 800 million for 5 years
@@tirepopper2969 The Dodgers will make more than $700M from Shohei alone, no team is going to make $600M from Soto alone
I think that the argument should be that Shohei was underpaid then
@@noodler5583 or it’s simply Soto is over valued. Yeah he has the intangibles, but he simply won’t generate $600M
@@noodler5583That I could get behind. If Sotos worth 700 mill then Ohtanis worth 1 bill+
I have to disagree. I really don't think Juan Soto deserves Shohei Ohtani's contract. Don't get me wrong Soto is a hell of a player and come offseason, he will probably get a fat contract. I personally think Shohei is a better hitter, but even if I were to concede that Soto is a better hitter, he doesn't PITCH. Shohei's $700m is an evaluation of his talent as a hitter AND a pitcher. Even if Shohei wasn't a pitcher, he is still raking in cash for the Dodgers... an obscene amount of cash. He's served the Dodgers organization millions of Japanese ball fans on a silver platter. The Dodgers will make every penny back and some from Shohei's contract. No other player deserves Shohei's contract IMO.
Stupid
Facts
@@dwaynehoward240how is this stupid
@@dwaynehoward240you are
@@Iverson8811 yo mom
Shohei makes money for the dodgers Soto don’t. See all the Japanese tourists came to dodgers stadium, does Soto brings Dominican to Yankees stadium ? Hell no, Soto only deserve same money as Judge
Every japoneses that travels 80% of them goes to dodgers stadium. Think about that 😂. Thats alot of money
Soto is not 30 years old with 2 major surgeries, so I think that's something you gotta take into consideration
I am Dominican and to say Soto deserves Ohtani money is just ludicrous. Soto is a good hitter. Ohtani is a good hitter, base stealer and pitcher. There is no one playing or possibly that ever played ever like Ohtani. Give Soto Judge, Harper money. Maybe a little more cause of inflation 😂
I mean the only thing Soto has on Ohtani is age. Ohtani is a better hitter, better baserunner, and pulls more viewer. Oh and he is an elite starting pitcher who would pull a premier salary if that was all he did.
Unless Soto can pull the some insane mindgames on the teams giving him offers, then they would be insane to give him an Ohtani deal.
Shohei is 54/59 + pitches + multi-national fan base. Soto is 41/7 + mid defense + most fans dislike him.
And people outside of the US and the DR dont even know him
I disagree for 3 main reasons
1) Ohtani is more productive as a position player than Soto
2) Ohtani also pitches at a Cy Young level when healthy (TJ surgery notwithstanding)
3) Ohtani brings in way more attention and especially money for whoever is employing him
Soto is great, well on his way to a Hall of Fame career. But Ohtani transcends the game and is the closest thing to a real living legend society has seen since before the internet went mainstream
Can’t forget trout was better than Soto when he got his contract vs Soto now
@@kurumauzamaki2731hundred percent agree at best Soto is the same value as trout
Both of u dummy’s above me never compare a ring less loser who never preforms in playoff to a top 5 lefty of all time get out of here remember sotos already a champion mike trout won’t even come close to the championship series 😂
@@tomoyakadoEven that's a big stretch. Trout was the most valuable player every single year for 10 straight seasons. Even if you remove Ohtani from the league, Soto still is not that.
@@skidrat55 true I am saying at best even if you want to argue that Soto is worth it the only way is that you could argue Soto is only 25 and at best his potential would at best be worth trouts but I do agree with you there
Judge was better than Soto in every single offensive category. People say he’s only 26, but I think they’re being too optimistic that he’ll be better than Judge in the future. Anything more than 500 mil for Soto is overvalued.
Even Ohtani was better than Soto in most offensive categories..😂..and he is a rehabbing pitcher..
@ exactly, not to mention the amount of revenue he brings through television and merchandise deals
No no no. He should get 400 mil. Bread the record for a “one way” player. But to say he deserves Ohtani who IS THE BEST HITTER AND A TOP 10 PITCHER is hilarious
Nah, Shohei is a global icon. Once in a century player
Soto is a global icon too.....
@@nickr3441 Not remotely in the same level as Shohei. Shohei was swarmed by the masses in Korea and Japan at the airport or during transportation. You won't see the same kind of attention to Soto outside USA.
NO shotani is useless in the WS!
Soto does NOT DESERVE Ohtani money. Ohtani transcends all of American baseball. He’s bigger than anyone in Japan. That’s a HUGE market. Biggest selling merch in baseball. Soto won’t ever come close to his sales, hence his contract shouldn’t be close to Ohtani for the business aspect alone.
I think Juan Soto will get a massive contract given how good he is and how young. But no way hell get a contract like Ohtani since he doesn't pitch, and for the fact he doesn't bring ANOTHER COUNTRY of viewership. More importantly though, hes going to sign with the Dodgers on a pretty big deal and defer a ton of it just like Ohtani so they can play together. My best guess hell get a 500mill for 12-13 years.
Soto can't field or run. He can barely play RF in Yankee Stadium. Put Soto on the mound, throw 100mph, and strikeout Mike Trout with a 91mph sweeper. Soto is a *hitter* and one of the best, but he's not in Shohei's league. To be fair, no one is.
Except Aaron Judge
@@Jackson77Officialcan’t pitch..
No he doesn’t, Shohei besides the fact that he’s a two way player a two time MVP soon to be 3, he brings way more value off the field. He has an entire country rooting for him and a lot of Japanese money flowing into the Dodger organization just for Shohei. He’ll make the Dodgers that money back within a few years. Shohei makes $40+ million a year off endorsements alone, no one else in baseball can come close to that. He’s a world wide recognized athlete. Juan Soto is good very good but he’s not Ohtani. I see him getting $500 million no more than $600 tho. I see the Mets giving him that money tho
So you are saying that Ohtani is underpaid…cool
This is a great way to put it.
with the amount of money Shohei generates for whoever employs him, yeah, he's probably underpaid and the Dodgers got a bargain lol
I think another factor that might be hard for him right now is name value, yes he’s a good player but I feel like the media doesn’t put him as a star player yet compared to Judge and Ohtani let alone sponsors they bring in so I would say if he is to get Ohtani money, he needs to be constant mvp or breaking multiple records. Maybe in the near future where he could be constant and possibly surpass Judge as a hitter but as for now I don’t think he’s worth as that much
Respect your opinion though
Soto at his best is never bringing in the money Shohei is lol
Personally would disagree. Shohei Ohtani getting $700,000,000 wasn’t solely because he can win games. It was also because Shohei Ohtani gives the Dodgers and MLB as a whole a lot more revenue, so even if he bombs in LA, he’s still worth it. Juan Soto just doesn’t have that type of star power. Personally I would give him a 13-15 year contract worth 550-650mil (and before people say this is basically Ohtani money Ohtani is for 10 years. Technically 20 but the Dodgers are getting 10 years of production from him)
Otani is defer.. so the contract value is not $700 million.
@@user-Ic7hx7wd9cThe contract value is 700M the ledger amount is 460M..no wonder Americans fail in math..
No way bro actually said Soto deserves 700m 💀. Look man, Yankees stadium field is like a Lego version of a real baseball field in comparison, his defense was average at best and tracking sucked, so you can write him up to be a DH by 2 season from now. No even as a 26 year old Soto does not deserve 700m, if anything on the high end is worth $490m because you paying for a glorified DH who on average will hit 3.2 times a game and can’t run bases to save his career (yanks don’t practice base running). I respect everything he’s been able to accomplish but Soto is literally Max muncy mixed Luis Arraez, and that’s Phenomenal for batting but everything else is mid at best. Yea he’s made good plays while fielding but his ball tracking is technically below average which is overkill to pay $500m for.
I made way too many grammatical errors 🤦🏻♂️, either way the video was still good and yeah honestly if Soto gets 700 he deserves it because his stats batting wise prove he’s elite and a unicorn, that’s exactly why I said he’s half Muncy and Arraez, bros eagle eye is insane and will definitely be a winner until his career is done.
Yankee stadium plays neutral. But a clown like you would never know that
Truth, and he doesn’t command the Global market. Bro I bought Japanese cat food because of this man…tf. Soto will sell me nothing.
I actually bought the kòse soap they advertised ohtani on, it’s literally like dove but it’s actually butter smooth on the face. 💀 it was $30 but honestly it’s worth it.
@@anonymousdogg1559 and the ladies love you for it. Be well.
Shohei brings alot on the table that Soto doesnt have!
1. CHARISMA and FANBASE
2. Pitching
3. Speed and more POWER!
Dude... Shohei has the world's 4th largest economy and East Asian market behind him. the deals/popularity he brings, the markets he can appeal to guarantee a return on investment.
Soto is from a poor Carribbean island. No corporations, no market. Nothing. He can only penetrate/represent a much smaller diaspora. The money coming in is galaxies apart.
I'm probably one of the few that agrees with you. When it comes to Soto, you're never going to see a pitcher or a 5 tool player like Ohtani, who I agree is the best player in baseball right now. However, you're getting an ascending, already elite hitter who's proven he elevates his play when it matters most. He's definitely the most electric player of this generation (More so than Ohtani and Elly) and he's shown it time and time again on the biggest stage, against the best pitchers. He's also right where he belongs in Nyc where Dominicans will gladly ride for him the way the Japanese ride for Ohtani in LA.
Are you comparing the Dominican market to the Japanese 😂
@ ?? I’m comparing the audience and filling up stadiums. There are more Dominicans in New York than there are Japanese in LA
@@jaytone8134You just said more electric player than Ohtani😂
Soto is not electric, he dosent even sell Merch or jersey domestically despite Dominicans..
Seriously, people don’t know who he is and he wasn’t even popular in SD..maybe you never go anywhere from where you are…
@@mirikaku5811 You’re very weird going this hard on a comment made weeks ago. No one can currently do what Ohtani can, I’m not saying otherwise, but imo Soto is the most electrifying player at the plate and he’s proven it time and time again since he was 20 years old batting in the biggest stage. You can’t deny he’s a top 5 player right now and he’s certainly known as such. The value and marketability is there and can be maximized if you put him in New York, that’s all I’m saying. The MLB is gonna try its hardest to promote Ohtani as much as possible, especially with him being the first Japanese superstar since Ichiro. I’m simply saying you can justify that with Soto in NY
@@jaytone8134nahhhh Shohei's market is not just limited to Japanese fans. Like he's known (not as widely known as those popstars though) in Southeast Asia, South Korea, and China (even if they have different platforms) that's just in our demographics. Not sure about the other continents - I even have to pay for the MLB YT viewing to watch Dodger's games (and that's PER game) imagine the revenue he pulls. Soto? Nah
I love Juan Soto. I am a Nats fan, and we would not have beaten Houston in 2019 without Juan's MASSIVE bat. He hit two homers that have not landed yet, and against the best pitchers in the world. However, he does not toe the rubber every five days and throw 99-100 as a starting pitcher. It's really that simple. Shohei Ohtani is TWO players in one. The Unicorn. One of a kind. Mid-$500MiL+whatever happens against the Dodgers to spice it up.
He shouldn’t earn MORE than trout trout was a better player at every level (hitting, running, fielding) while winning 2 MVPs and having more higher finishes than Soto has when trout got his contract if trout is better than Soto with the same years he shouldn’t earn more
Trout aside, is Soto really that much more valuable than Judge?? Even with age difference..
Experts are calculating that Othani will bring the mlb 770 million dollars in revenue this year. I’m sorry but Soto is a generational player but he does not deserve othani money. Also, othani pitches.
Already estimate by Forbes Japan end September, Ohtani has brought in to the Dodgers 700M in Japanese Multi year ad contracts. (Not including merch sales, tickets, tourism and Broadcasting proceeds from Japan)
If soto can play elite defense he can get 550mil
Shohei is a one of a kind talent that makes him literally two baseball players! Soto is a generational talent but what are his chances of winning a batting title, mvp, and the Cy Young while hitting 40 home runs and stealing 40 bases...at least! Any team that would pay the same contract to Soto that Shohei earned needs to study the stats, they aren't even close!
Nah man, Soto is not getting $700 million. $500? Sure. I think a 10 year, $50 mil/year deal is definitely in the cards (with lots of deferred money of course). But Soto is ONLY a batter. He carries no fielding value and no pitching value.
To say Soto doesn't carry no fielding value is insane! Ohtani is just a DH doesn't even touch the field besides batting. Soto beats Ohtani in that category even on his worse day man.
I firmly believe that he will get a contract on the high 500m in 15 years. If he wins another WS and the MVP; its 100% sure that will be a 600m contract
@@chriisclutch8472 bait or mental retardation?. OHTANI FOUNDED 50/50 AS A REHABBING PITCHER. Hes going to pitch next year while still going to hit close to .300. Soto aint even better than judge LMAO
@@chriisclutch8472 Ohtani didn't touch the field because he's a rehabbing pitcher. Joe Musgrove just had a TJ. Imagine him (although Ohtani is a better pitcher than Musgrove) coming back next season with 50-50. Let that sink in.
From a business perspective, it's not even close. Ohtani is a cultural phenomenon in multiple cultures with cash and coverage pouring in from across the Pacific as well as immense popularity in the the United States while accomplishing multiple milestones that were thought impossible just a few years ago.
Soto... isn't.
Nah Shohei brings way more fans/publicity. I think he should get a large contract but not equal to Shohei
He doesn’t pitch and he doesn’t command the Global market like Ohtani. I bought Japanese Cat food because of Ohtani. Yeah that’s 700 milly. I will buy nothing because of Soto, but he deserves the 2nd highest MLB contract.
Japanese cat food haha now that's selling power!
What does glazing mean ? I show them this video.
Soto is a great player, but 700M is insanity. Shohei is way more valuable not only on court but off court is even more. You can debate the dodgers already made 500M + this season alone cuz of shohei. Soto is a great player but at most 500M. If he was a great defender i would pay him 600M because he doesnt disapear in post season.
But hes not.
The Dodgers could've gave Shohei a billion dollar contract and they still would be able to get that money back. He's the most marketable player in the sport and he brings a lot of eyes to the team he's playing on. Japanese companies and their ads go wherever Shohei decides to go. The only thing you get from Soto is an amazing hitter and that's pretty much it. You can make an argument he deserves Judge's contract, even though Judge is still the better player, but no one else besides Shohei is worth anything near $500 mil, let alone $700 mil.
Forbes Japan published estimated Dodgers income from dozen Multi year Japanese advertising contract as of September generated S700M. (Not including Merch, tickets, tourism and Japanese LIVE Broadcasting rights)
You have NO IDEA how contract is offered. Contract money is determined not just based on on-the-field performance, but also based on off-the-field performance as well. The reason why Dodgers got to be able to offer Ohtani $700 million is two-fold: 1. Ohtani was willing defer $680 million out of $700 million for the period of 2034 to 2043 year, which brings down the value of contract to $480 million in present value. 2. Ohtani brings more than $70 million to Dodgers as additional revenue annually in a way of increased ad money, Japanese TV rights, increased merchandise revenue, increased stadium ticket revenue, e.t.c. Ohtani himself has the highest endorsement income of $65 million in 2024 while Bryce Harper $7 million as the second place. How much did Soto make on it ? He is nowhere to be seen on top 10 players list. He has insignificant star power to bring additional revenue to the ball club. No matter how talented Soto may be on the field of baseball, there’s NO WAY that Soto will be offered Ohtani money, therefore. At the end of the day baseball is business. Soto’s value will be determined based on his business value.
Off field performance? 😅
You're a moron
Biggest problem is when you give ONE single player that kind of money (except for Ohtani who BRINGS in real dollars - already 700M this year by Japanese multi year Ad contracts and paid his 10year contract in his first season), you will cripple and jeopardize the ability to add good players. Since Soto can’t field and baseball needs more than one star to win..
Dodgers winning for Fernando 💙💙💙
You know someone lives inside the baseball bubble when they claim Soto deserves Ohtani money. Step outside it and you realize Ohtani is the only global superstar in baseball, and generates exponentially more money for his team than someone like Soto.
Not to mention Ohtani is just objectively more valuable on the field. Back to pitching next season, and even this year as just a DH he had more fWAR than Soto
I get that the Mets, Dodgers, etc. might be in the bidding but if the Yankees don't give Soto a great contract to stay then that's a disgrace.
In 2018 2 players started their MLB career.
1st player career stat line as of today:
36.5 WAR/3280 AB/934 H/201 HR/.285 BA
2nd player career stat line as of today:
43.8 WAR/3119 AB/878 H/225 HR/.282 BA
Pretty similar numbers but notice how the 1st player has 161 more AB than the 2nd yet the 2nd player has more WAR and home runs while being slightly behind on hits and BA.
Oh yea I forgot to mention that 2nd player is a starting cy young level pitcher in Shohei Ohtani and 1st player is Juan Soto.
So in conclusion, NO. Juan Soto does not deserve Shohei Ohtani money. Dont even get me started on their market value to their franchises and to the league. But it's not a knock on Soto because NO ONE in MLB deserves Shohei Ohtani money but Shohei Ohtani
Did soto even get on any record book? He deserves a food stamp if compared to ohtani
It isn't just about talent. Solo just isn't bringing the eyeballs that Ohtani does. Ohtani is a worldwide superstar.
Bro I am a FULL blown Soto fan. I'm a Yankee and I am Dominican so I support him to and through, but there is no way he deserves Shoei money.. Soto is not a good fielder, not a good base runner, and bad at stealing. PLUS shoei pitches at a very high level, which Soto also doesn't do... Soto should get something like 515M at 13-14 years which would put him around 40M a year.. More than enough, more than fair
Bro I’m a massive braves fan but I’m not gonna lie about the fact sotos my fav player in the league. Everything about that guy
Finally, a sane youtuber speaks facts 👏👏👏. Yes, I 100% agree. In fact, we should pay EVERY player one billion dollars. Even the ones that are not free agents. That's right. Uno billiano. I said it. I said it cuz I ain't afraid of no owner. Any less and it wouldn't be fair, cuz, you know, they got expenses and sheet.
500mil at its best
italk: i love the channel but NO HE DOESNT
Umm, no. As good as Soto is, he's never won an MVP. Meanwhile, Judge will win his second MVP after this season. Are you saying Soto is worth more than Judge? If so, that's absolutely delusional.
Subscriber here. Generally love your videos, and even appreciate when you take a more controversial stance on a topic. But here? You’ve gone too far. I’d venture as far as to call this out as rage baiting. Aside from any of that, you’re just not even flirting with a valid point here. Soto has some talent, a lot of it. However, he’s setting a horrific example! He played a significant role in the selfish play in San Diego. If that’s too far of a reach, he’s been inconsistent. His flash any attitude are an unfortunate example. Taking to social media to air his laundry with the Nats is just gross. Shohei is class all the way around. He also is an exceptional, once in a generation player. To suggest that Soto deserves this is laughable. It’s just not true.
Been waiting for someone to make this vid. That moment was legendary. Soto was on every single pitch and thats what he was saying at bat. They just werent what he was looking for. He wanted that fastball. He forced him to throw it
Shohei hit like an mvp and is a top 10 pitcher when healty. No way
I love Trevor May! Him being a former MLB veteran pitcher provides such cool insights that many people can't catch.
Shohei is the goose that layeth the golden egg. Soto is just a great player. "Deserve" is a stupid idea though. He'll get what he negotiates.
The reason is because Ohtani's contract is maybe 50% based on ability and the other 50% is how many viewers he draws in. The MLB is probably averaging the highest viewership numbers ever because of Ohtani and its only Ohtani. Japan and most of America isnt tuning in to watch every Yankees game and they have Judge and Soto. Ohtani is on a different level of marketability. Its not even close. Im not even a dodgers fan. I hate them because i like the Padres. Theyre easily our biggest rival and even im watching ever Dodgers game just to watch Ohtani.
Thank you iTalk sir!
This is a stupid video. Juan is great and a 400 mil player. But the revenue he brings in pales in comparison to ohtani. The amount of ads Japanese companies bring the dodgers is insane...and their economy is far bigger than the Dominican Republic 's. Ohtani is the better player overall and brings in way more money because of his star power. Not even close. If Juan Soto gets 700 mil it would be over 17 years.
This is gold 🎉🎉🎉 I agree 100% with everything you said. Sotos mind is where his money is 💸💸💸
Shohei has 3 reasons why no one is worth even half that much.
Top 3 hitter, top 3 pitcher, that alone is worth like 700mil for two players, but ADD ON the Japanese viewership and that adds like 200mil worth of revenue and fans and exposure, not even close. Literally not close and I hate when people say “not even close” but this is one of the few times I’ll say it
WHAT UP!! ✌️😎
What's up!!
I'm a Yankee fan but I don't think he should get 600mill+ bc 1instead the banks could build up there bullpen 2 people just thing because teams are willingly giving players (dodgers) 700mill so the Yankees should also
What an incredible breakdown, it was painful because he’s no longer a national but at least he got away from those losers in San Diego. God bless this man and what he’s doing for baseball.
I would love to see either New York team offered that kind of contract with possibly no defferred money. Good if that contract worth for them but also the possibility it will shackle their payroll 😌
this is one of the only bad takes on this channel lol
As a Mets fan, delete this.
I remember Soto was in the audience of an episode of Desus & Mero right after the Nats championship run. They’re both Yankees fans. Soto was a Nat. I’m a Mets fan, I was sickened by the whole thing. Years later, he’s taking the Yanks to the World Series. I would love for Soto to become a Met next year but I don’t think it will happen. I think he’ll use Cohen to raise his price and remain with the Yanks or go elsewhere.
I don't know how much money they will give him. But I am very happy that his talent is recognized even more.
Great take. I agree with everything! Also, he can't pitch so he deserves just under Ohtani money but, WOW. He has been amazing from the start.
I'm a Lifetime Yankees fan and the way I see it if Soto produces what Reggie Jackson produce back in the 77-78 Series then we can talk Max Contract $$$$💵💰💵
This is genuinely one of the best most well though videos about baseball on this platform.
Imagine if he joined Ohtani after this year regardless of the WS outcome.
Soto deserves a lot, but not as much as Ohtani. His contract isn't just based on performance alone, it was an investment on Ohtani the brand and all the international pull that comes with it. Which Soto just cant compete with, they're both stars but there's certainly levels to that.
Thought this was rage bait. I stand corrected…
Sotos biggest fan here. I see him getting a 12-15 years contract worth somewehere around 550-650m. If hes world series MVP it might go up. Go Yanks!!
surprised no one has brought up that soto is like 5 years younger than ohtani
This might be simplistic, but have you forgotten that Shohei is also a cy young caliber pitcher? He's two players in one man.
Ohtani’s contract will never be matched by anyone ever again because only one player can be worth the price and have his contract paid off in the first year of it and he is going to bring more money into the team,city and the players country.
Not a f-ing chance, man. Soto had a good season, but 700 mil???
All that Yankees hate in his past videos, i see why only after watching this. Kid has long way to go, please like, comment and subscribe...!!!
Dude, there's no amount of arguments, no amount of videos that could convince me that Soto deserves $700 Million. Shohei is on a league of his own, like it or not. Soto cannot pitch, especially not at an ace level, in addition to being a power hitter and able to play the outfield. Not only that, Shohei is not just a 2-way superstar, he's a BRAND, AN ICON! Casuals who rarely watch baseball are learning the name Shohei Ohtani! He's soon to become Major League Baseball's Michael Jordan. Not only that but he's also pulling MILLIONS of viewers from overseas. Half the population of Japan is now watching MLB games early in the morning because of him. When you think of Major League Baseball, you don't think of Juan Soto, you think of SHOHEI OHTANI and the Los Angeles Dodgers! And yes, Soto is a great player, he deserves a lot of money, just not $700 Million. And if you're willing to pay him that, then you might as well pay Shohei $1 Billion.
If anything, Sho is underpaid specially after his performance this season with literally zero mound appearance 😅 Dodgers is drowning with money from him alone.
Remember you never get what you deserve but what you have the leverage to negotiate, and Juan Soto has a lot of leverage to command a crazy contract akin to Ohtani.
I only know soto is better than judge, the guy us a beast since came in to the league. And his stats in regular season and play off don change, now othanis contract is a pitcher/hitter contract we might never see that contract again , also the guy come with 30m+ fans from japon.
I think he deserves Shohei money too; aside from his pure talent, and mental strength, he is still so young! He will be in his prime for like another 6 years! Yes he does not pitch, still... The first player since Shohei to get paid $700 mil should be Juan Soto.
Soto could get that 5-550 million contact that nobody thought he would get….not +200 million more like Shohei’s
If Ohtani was solely a position player like Soto, I’d say yes, OF COURSE… but the fact that Ohtani pitches too, and well, I should add, is why he deserves way more money than Soto. He’s automatically twice as valuable since he can do both, as long as it doesn’t affect him health-wise, all the better!
Couldn’t agree more
I still remember thinking to myself when Soto hit those bombs at Yankee Stadium before he ever became a Yankee(Both when he was with the Nats and the Padres) I was lowkey thinking... This dude is a future Yankee... And then the next thing yk he got traded to the Yankees
"Deserves" is always a tough thing to itemize when it comes to sports contracts. Otani will give the Dodgers the Japanese market they can exploit. And he's a great player on a HOF trajectory if he stays healthy (tears for Mike Trout's greatness). From a financial perceptive Otani will always be more valuable. Sadly the Latin market doesn't have the financial marketplace for exploitation like Japan.
But, if you feel Soto will bring you 3-5 more WS wins, and you control the largest media market in the world...Soto is worth a billion dollars and the Yanks owners can pay it.
So, if I'm the GM of the Yankees and I have a 26 year old who took a sad 2023 team and took them to the WS...I'd let Boras fill in the numbers. Financially it will pay likely but it will probably bring you more trips to October and that means you keep owning New York.
Soto has already won a world series, and got the Yanks over the hump and into the world series. Could possibly help the Yanks beat the Dodgers. Soto is a proven playoff performer.
I don't even know if Shohei deserves Shohei's contract... I mean, it's just insane amounts of money that all of these players are making. It's hard for someone like me to ever see why anyone needs that much money. But in any case, as a Jays fan, I hope the ownership is prepared to offer him whatever it takes! They need good players who can hit. It was painful to watch them this year, especially. They also need new management, though.
Shohei brought in according to Forbes estimate already 700M by end September dozen in multi year Japanese advertising contract to the Dodgers..YOU don’t think he is worth…
The dude is playing for free since he already brought in entire 10 years salary in revenues..
He is GRAVELY UNDERPAID 😂
People don't understand that Soto is already legendary and still arguably has not hit his prime. You are going to pay him because you think he is still going to be better. Ohtani arm most likely won't hold up which would put him as DH for most of his career. Soto has always been available to play.
Ohtanis arm won’t hold…don’t you think Sotos fielding won’t hold up and he will NEED to be a DH..that’s a helluva price for DH.
WHILE the other DH, Ohtani can pitch on upper echelon level..but if he can’t anymore, he WILL no longer be DH but a position player!!
I agree with 14yrs contract worth $570M, but not 700M. one way player don't deserve except in many years from 15yrs+.
Sotto can't add up revenues that Ohtani could.
Ohtani deal is basically 460m with inflation. And he is 10times bigger and even a better player than Soto. Ohtani brings a billion dollars with ticket sales, views, merchandise and marketing while Soto brings penny compared to him
Soto is not 2 elite players in one like Shohei. He's a good hitter, sure, one of the best to play the game, but he does not deserve Shohei money. He's barely an average fielder. That dude looks like he's playing on ice sometimes in the outfield. OR even a basestealing threat.
Ohtani has much better slug. Soto has slightly higher OBP. Soto doesn't play much defense and isn't improving. Soto is slower. Soto can't pitch. Not sure how Soto gets more than the $46m AAV that Ohtani got. $42m max.
Can you imagine how many times Pedro Martinez would have hit him if they played at the same time? Verlander was telling Soto not to do those things, but Pedro wouldn't have said a word. He'd just nod back at Soto put one on his ribs
Ohtani is a different tier because 10% of Japan watches the playoffs at 9 am their time specifically to watch Shohei play