I wouldn't consider the flexibility a positive either bc it's a shitty one. Unlike trained flexibility, hypermobility just means you are more likely to sprain and dislocate things. 😅 Also depends on the kind and the person but even if you get hypermobile joints, you might still have stiff muscles.
It has much more down- then upsides. Also stretching isn't really a thing then, you spook doctors and generally do movements that are rather unsettling. But if you are aware of it then you are able to train your muscles in ranges where other people can't. You need to be careful and patient tho. I for example had very painful issues with my shoulder blades. Turns out my rotator cuff was completely sticky ie. muscles tissue sticking together. However after getting fixed and years of rotator cuff training im moving weights with my elbows aka my rotator cuff where other people scream in pain when only watching. Pain in that area definitely is long gone at this point.
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 yeah but then the next day you try to lift something heavy and your organs fall out your ass so thats a bit inconvenient
my mom has EDS & it also impacts healing! since it's a connective tissue disorder, the healing process of wounds can take longer (you may need stitches in twice as long, for example). Thank you for addressing this & bringing awareness :)
It does affect healing? My wounds are always a pain to heal, even the small ones, my fam always said it was because of high levels of sugar on the blood, but that didn't make as much sense. Thank you!, I'm off to research about it
My wife also has hyper mobile eds (type 3) and for her it is very debilitating. I get that this meant as a funny video but please talk to a actual fysical therapist and rehabilitation doctor. My wife has pulled tendens by moving wrong and dislocates her finger, toes, wrists and shoulder several times a day. She has even dislocated shoulders and ribs by laughing. This disease is not a joke and i really wish this disease would be taken seriously in stead of being seen as a funny party trick
I'm in the process of getting diagnosed with hypemobile EDS. Do you know what that process looks like? What happens to your body like what symptoms other then the normal ones? I'm 14 yr old girl btw
@@ConfusedAzaleaFlower-zg6vgFor my wife it took 5 years to finally get diagnosed by a specialist. His trick was to check for hypermobility in the hand bones. For my daughter, the diagnosis consisted of a brighton test to test hypermobility, genetic testing to rule out thing like vascular eds (type 4) regular eds (type 1 and 2) marfan syndrome and some other genetic defects. Where i live, another criteria is serious hindrence in daily live due to instability. Think of wheelchair use for long distances or dislocating shoulders getting dressed. Those kind of things. Without these severe hinderences, the diagnosis is usually hyper mobility disorder (hms). My daughter has been getting fysical therapy since she was 2 as strength training is important to prevent dislocation and provide stability normally given by connective tissue. Unfortunately, you wont know the severity of the disease after puberty as hormones (especially estrogen) are suspected to worsen sympoms significantly. This is thougt to be the reason for eds being a disease mainly found in women. Gope this help but feel free vro ask more questions if anything is unclear
@@ConfusedAzaleaFlower-zg6vg theres a lot of reported intense period cramp symptoms for ciswomen and afab trans people, a higher proportion of people with EDS have intense period symptoms compared to the general population. But theres certainly plenty of ways to manage such symptoms as well. Doctors and the EDS community are pretty great at finding solutions and coming up with home remedies and ways to personally manage symptoms of all kinds, not just this. Trans people who take testosterone generally find their flexibility and symptoms overall ease, while people taking estrogen as HRT end up with symptoms and mobility getting more intense. This is because estrogen is doing the exact same thing that hypermobility already does - it makes your collagen more stretchy and flexible. Theres lots of different kinds of symptoms, because there's different kinds of EDS, I can't recall quite how many. And then there's just general hypermobility. EDS in very simple (and not entirely accurate) terms could be 'hypermobility + other stuff.' Some of the EDS variations have issues with bad scarring, cardiovascular issues with the arteries and veins in general, issues with valves in the heart, problems with vision (there's collagen in the lens of the eye), and on and on. For the most part there's a genetic test that you can do for most of the EDS variations, but it can be difficult to get access to do the test for some people.
You should check out Jaxblade too, he's a great guy but more high energy. Not as calm as Hampton and David but definitely just as sweet :) (note: he is currently going through grief from the loss of his best friend, so he's taken a break from uploading.)
Being hyper mobile also makes it easier to dislocate or hyper extend a joint. I learned that the hard way 🤣 Edit: Thanks for giving me some fun stories to read, have a great day✌️
Yep I have a doctor that wants me to get tested for it because I for one fit the diagnostic criteria almost to a tea and 2 I have some rare issue with my Pancreas and they can't find a single reason why my Pancreas is damaged but anybody who knows about it doesn't take my insurance it's such a bummer 💀
can confirm, just diagnosed with eds, but too late, injured at work, I'm only 30, I'm in my 4th round of a 6-week physical therapy program, since last February I've gone from 256lbs to 165lbs. Because I'm now in constant pain from injury, combined with eds, this has made my recovery SLOW af because i have to really push myself to see results, (which is hard to due in constant pain lol)
@@Daphny0992welcome to adult hood in america. Where insurance costs an arm and a leg so that the greedy billionairs in the pharmaceutical companies get their money 😊
I already knew bro aint focused on no females after I seen that video with him working on his arch on all fours 😂 Aye bless his soul though hes just wanna be flexible 😂
@@tychodancermy smallest toes dislocate constantly, right at the ball of the foot. It used to hurt a lot, but after the first couple of times, it turned into more of a burning/itching sensation. That and the pressure is how I know the toe is out of place. Unfortunately I've worn down the end of the joint far enough that they slip out if my feet swell even slightly, and some days I have to hold it in place for ten to fifteen minutes until it'll stay on its own and not pop out as soon as I let go. And, I had a rheumatologist tell me I fit the minimum criteria for EDS, but never actually got tested for it, so I can't say for sure if it's just a random thing or if it's an actual disorder.
I've got hEDS too! I'm so happy to be seeing more people in fitness starting to talk about this disorder because it really does inflict how much(if any) of certain exercises you can do
Yessss I’ve been INSANELY flexible my whole life but with extremely bad joints 😭 the only thing that has helped is strength training! If I stop strength training (like I did during pandemic) I notice the pain returning to my joints immediately. I’ll be going to the gym forever, apparently
Same with me! But I also threw classical ballet in the mix (semi advanced level, so a lot of barre and floor, but nothing crazy. No points). There are a lot of static movements in there and a focus on balance. + the flexible movements helps loosening up the locked painful joints.
@@canwejustnot yes! I find Pilates & yoga help a lot in similar ways as you mentioned about ballet! Needless to say fitness is a huuuuge part of my life and I think it will have to stay that way. I also enjoy long distance walking and hiking in areas that aren’t super rocky (I’m scared for my ankles)
I'm like 20 and every time I kneel down to pick something up I immediately regret it for the rest of the day lol. My co-workers look at me weird when im walking funny for the rest of the day.
Wow.. my mum made me think our EDS Hypermobility was a reason to be super careful and afraid of hurting myself but i kinda wish i'd grown up with the confidence to push myself
for most people with eds, safe exercise is possible as long as you know what to do and what to avoid! funny enough I grew up undiagnosed and wish I was a lot more careful because I had many injuries that caused lifelong issues
My physio's main advice was to never push your joints into your hypermobility, only stretch into the healthy range, and work on strength and balance exercises to support the joints. If your knees and ankles give you trouble, it's also important to train your proprioception as well. She said a lot of ankle injuries come from a lack of spatial awareness rather than muscle/joint failure, which is definitely true for me. She had me on a regimen to stand on one foot with my eyes closed, which genuinely is some of the hardest training I've ever done. Haven't had an ankle injury since 🙏
A friend of mine from college has EDS. One time we were doing homework or something in her dormroom and she paused in the middle of talking and said quite casually, "I think my spine just dislocated." Thankfully, it had not. But apparently something like that had happened before. EDS is wild
lol i have it and theres actually some perks to it for some people. If your friend has super soft skin or just softer than normal it’s likely that they’ll have less wrinkles in the future. It’s definitely my favorite thing about having EDS 😂
@@Snailmash She hasn't mentioned much about her skin texture to me, but she does look young for her age to me. She's also Amazigh though so I'm not sure if they just typically visibly age more slowly, plus she had very round, doll-like features which look youthful ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We're in our early 20's so hard to know yet lol I hope you are doing well with your EDS! I know there are different types so I just hope everything is going as well for you as possible
My mother has Marfan's syndrome and I have it but I haven't been taken seriously by doctors yet but stretching is SO important to me. I have interstitial cystitis and I recently learned part of the reason why is I seem to have been born with pelvic floor dysfunction. I do yoga, stretching, and my PT does massages. I thought I had either endometriosis or Nutcracker syndrome, when my scans came up clean thank god and I spoke to the vein doctor about connective tissue disorder he said PT has helped patients like me and it did. I already have spider veins but no arterial issues. Also, when it comes to exercise I have to be so careful not to overdo it but to do it, so I tend to walk, bike, play with my nephew. My IC has been doing better and I have been in much less pain although the massages hurt for a while and the butterfly style stretches too. Also yoga helps with the scoliosis pain. Still working on my paperwork for the specialty clinic. The disease has taken much of my family, every step of it has been painful. An interesting little thing is I seem to be prone to costochondritis so I try not to overwork the muscles over the ribs. It hurts like hell and it's harmless but you worry you're dying and then worry you will be dying and think you're fine. I suppose yoga is both stretching and strength, but since not being put into pain olympics is PE anymore I have truly learned how good it is. I dunno if it's my connective tissue not knowing how to tissue particularly the joints but that touch your toes stuff is not for me.
I have EDS as well. I was diagnosed a couple years ago and after intense research by me and my mom (who is also diagnosed), we learned that swimming is an amazing way to teach muscles to support joints. And guys, these were some amazing ideas as well, thank you for bringing attention to a very unknown and unique disorder!!
Thank you for spreading awareness of EDS! Some of whay you mentioned sounds like POTS, and I'd recommwnd looking into it as it also affects your autonomic nervous system, which is pretty kuch anything your nerves affect. Happy EDS awareness month!
and hEDS does not automatically make you more flexible than the average person! for me it means i have some areas of my body that are extra flexible, while others are very very locked up. so it takes a lot more work to find balance than if i was an average person with average flexibility. it really manifests differently in each one of us :) i know someone with hEDS who breaks bones extremely easily, can’t even count how many at this point. whereas the one time i broke a toe, it healed in two days. i know someone whose hEDS causes them to have naturally bronze skin and a love for the sun, whereas i’m especially pale and i get rashes from the sun! we’re all so different.
Also your body might lock up some places to stabilize you in these areas because your hypermobile, but not strong enough to hold it in a healthy position.
It's ehlers danlos syndrome if you're wondering whay eds stands for, they're also more likely to dislocate their joints due to the laxity of the ligaments
Yoooo always great to see some rep about this disorder in fitness! I’ve been away about my EDS for years, severe enough I’m banned from competitive martial arts and contact sports and been on my own journey for strength for awhile, great to see!
I’ve started working out a lot. I’m down 15 pounds and I can nearly touch my toes for the first time. I don’t even do mobility work, I’m just lifting and walking. It’s just loosened up everything that got tight from not moving
yeah, not trying to be rude. But its really not an impressive feat. But when 60%+ of most western nations are overweight and then 15%+ lives a sedentary lifestyle it starts to seem outstanding. When I was a little kid I could do splits and all sorts of other crazy stuff. Now most of that is gone at 32, but still can touch my toes.
I have dysautonomia with POTS but not EDS and I started yoga at the YMCA today. After the teacher mentioned I was very limber and I explained my hypermobility cause I thought she might've been referring the flexy stuff I actually barely felt. At that, she advised me to next time focus on keeping my muscles engaged so I don't hurt myself 😅❤
@hazeld8016 Nah, I've looked into it thoroughly, but I appreciate that you were wanting to help. 💙 I've looked at all the EDS types, and I don't meet the criteria for any of them. My hypermobility is just in my joints and primarily my wrists, hands, ankles, and knees. But I don't have the other hypermobile stuff.
@me-he8vv in ngl, I don't really believe that those conditions aren't types of EDS. They have to be collagen disorders. They just seem to be mild enough in their symptoms to not count as EDS, which is dumb imo bc EDS means collagen disorder, regardless of the severity. I know those diagnoses exist but I think they're only given by lazy doctors or those who are trying to gatekeep the diagnosis of EDS because "its supposed to be rare"
My dad has EDS and he’ll tell you any time that it’s a curse. He played a lot of sports and because of his EDS, he was able to get inhumanely strong. Nowadays, he’s 50 years old and consistently has joints popping in and out of place. His shoulders and thumbs are the biggest problem, but he commonly has ribs that slip out in the night. It’s also kinda odd because mostly everyone that has EDS has different symptoms.
I have HEDS too and I actually use your videos for exercises that work with my body, because if you have the mobility and none of the muscles around the joists you just end up with dislocations and a whole lot of pain!
I'd like to point out that you can also be a bit prone to accidents on some gym machines. For legs push, bell curls, hip thrusts, etc. there is a risk when you do the full motion that you're joints will bend more and you can end up with muscles tearing or joints fractures.
I have both asthma and hyper mobility :D I’m happy that hypermobility is a bit more known hopefully now? Idk if it’s EDS or not though. I cannot think of what that means rn. Anyways, although I’m still more stretchy on average something my dad was taught by somebody (my dad is also hyper mobile) that he told me was if your gonna be more flexible than (I wanna say it’s 20% of the population?) then you have to be stronger than 20% of the population. And although you can still be flexible without that strength, it’s easier to be strong. Anyways, love the videos David!
I have mild EDS, and I am very prone to injury so I have to constantly see a chiropractor and physiotherapist. With EDS injuries are often overlooked and harder to be diagnosed due to the extreme range of motion of your limited movement being greater than the average healthy movements of other people. Because of this it took a few doctors before I found one that understood my condition and was able to help me.
I’m both!!! :D I actually was so freaked out when I had to take steroids for some really stubborn pneumonia. (At least I think… that or it was for asthma. I don’t remember, I stopped running after I kept feeling like I bent my knee backwards when I did…)
I've been tested for EDS repeatedly cause my doctors cant think of it as anywthing but EDS. double jointed shoulders and what no, stupid flexible, with the accompanied jount pain. Did go through a chronic pain clinic for a few years and feel much better. Now flexible with significantly lower pain!
DUDE. I HAD A FEELING HE HAD EDS BY SEEN HIM IN MOVE U VIDS. His movements and range of motion are so similar to mine. It's an inspiration that someone can have such a physique even witn this disease.
Hi, my daughter has EDS, diagnosed a couple years ago in her first year out of school. I would love to see more of this sort of content. Both the ‘hey it’s not all doom and gloom’ type content and the strength training aspects. All of our research has said the best treatment for EDS is strength training. I love this video.
I had a friend that had Ehlers Danlos, she couldn't even pick up a mug of coffee without her arm falling out of its socket. She needed 24hr care. Glad you're healthy despite it!
In my family just about everyone can twist their arms all the way around so out elbows bend the opposite way. We also have few other similar things, but bc of that it makes it harder when working out bc out how we bend
yeah because of my hypermobile joints, I always have joint pain especially if I've been walking after a while because if I'm not paying attention, my knees overextend when I walk.
Dude same , i am also on steroids , for my asthma , im currently on one of the strongest medical steroids and have to carey around a card to show any medical professionals in emergancues because i am not allowrd certain medications will react badly with the steroid , not anobolics
I don't have EDS but a lot of my main joints, especially the weight bearing ones are hypermobile. This has led to me requiring lots of physio due to my knees and hips dislocating and I'm no longer able to run. My hips have a full range of motion which helps a lot at pole dancing but my flexibility is limited by my hamstrings (improving thanks to training through pole dancing).
Most of my family has h-eds (me, my brother, our mum, and her mum we assume has it too) As children, me and my brother used to challenge each other who could bend and twist the strangest (he was always way more flexible in his hands and arms, while i beat him out in the legs, but i had an advantage there bc i did ballet for years) Nowdays, im and adult and hes and older teenager and we both have heart issues, as does our mum (although my brothers is way better controlled than mine or my mums), and me and my mum have chronic pain in our digestive tracts and reproductive tract issues too My hyperflexibility is always fun, but it tends to creep people out so i dont get to much But it is not worth the pain it brings
I’m going to get tested for HEDS soon…me and my sister have been researching it and wanting to get tested because we have a lot of the same symptoms…my sister was diagnosed but I haven’t yet but it’s basically implied that I have it and I must say the only thing about it that is cool is the hyper mobility..I am constantly in pain and constantly have joint pain…idk if there’s a joint in my body that doesn’t pop when I move it…so no you don’t want it
i have hypermobile eds too! it doesnt always look like that! im not naturally flexible but i do stretch, but i move my limbs in unnatural ways, like my elbows can stick forwards when i stretch my arms out, and the most comfortable way to sit is in the W sit thing. but i hate the downsides. i get migraines and terrible pains, i bruise very easily and its quite painful
I have hypermobile EDS, but the hypermobility varies greatly in my family. I'm the least hypermobile but I have the most comorbidities. I'm also the only male in my family with it (EDS is 6 times more common in females.) if you have hEDS be careful exercising don't push yourself, and focus on strengthening your stabilizing joints if you don't want to dislocate your joints.
I suspected having eds for a long time, also crack my hands very often and heard it might be a symptom. Got a lab test scheduled once but never really got arouns to it
I haven’t been diagnosis w anything but I’m hyper mobile in some ways and very much not flexible in others. Like I need to stretch my muscles for sure but my individual joints can move a lot. My hips hyperextend and dislocate pretty often but usually if I sit in odd positions, if my legs are stretched out it never happens. Like I can’t touch my toes anymore (partly from some weight gain and partly bc I don’t stretch often anymore) or do splits, but if my knees are bent I can tuck them behind my shoulders bc my hips just rotate a ton. It sucks it’s super painful when my hips aren’t where they’re supposed to be and I have some nerve entrapments in other joints bc of over extensions. :/
That man stomach movement was incredible 💀
Very uncomfortable
Reminds of that one episode of Gumball
That’s what I thought belly dancing was in 2nd grade…
He can bring it around town like spongebob
Way easier to do than you would think.
Positives: super flexibility
Negatives: a series of issues that outweigh the positives.
Conclusion: it is infact a disorder.
Idk man, if you ever get punch or fall from a high hight, you just splatter, then get back up 🗿
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 wait, nobody said it was toon logic!
I wouldn't consider the flexibility a positive either bc it's a shitty one. Unlike trained flexibility, hypermobility just means you are more likely to sprain and dislocate things. 😅 Also depends on the kind and the person but even if you get hypermobile joints, you might still have stiff muscles.
It has much more down- then upsides.
Also stretching isn't really a thing then, you spook doctors and generally do movements that are rather unsettling.
But if you are aware of it then you are able to train your muscles in ranges where other people can't. You need to be careful and patient tho.
I for example had very painful issues with my shoulder blades. Turns out my rotator cuff was completely sticky ie. muscles tissue sticking together. However after getting fixed and years of rotator cuff training im moving weights with my elbows aka my rotator cuff where other people scream in pain when only watching. Pain in that area definitely is long gone at this point.
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 yeah but then the next day you try to lift something heavy and your organs fall out your ass so thats a bit inconvenient
2 grown man stretching with each other
Dude 💀💀
So?
@@Vjmnn2 grown men stretching eachother?
@@IWontBuy-RP even better in that case
@@IWontBuy-RPI think I’ve seen that movie before
my mom has EDS & it also impacts healing! since it's a connective tissue disorder, the healing process of wounds can take longer (you may need stitches in twice as long, for example). Thank you for addressing this & bringing awareness :)
It does affect healing? My wounds are always a pain to heal, even the small ones, my fam always said it was because of high levels of sugar on the blood, but that didn't make as much sense. Thank you!, I'm off to research about it
My wife also has hyper mobile eds (type 3) and for her it is very debilitating. I get that this meant as a funny video but please talk to a actual fysical therapist and rehabilitation doctor. My wife has pulled tendens by moving wrong and dislocates her finger, toes, wrists and shoulder several times a day. She has even dislocated shoulders and ribs by laughing.
This disease is not a joke and i really wish this disease would be taken seriously in stead of being seen as a funny party trick
I'm in the process of getting diagnosed with hypemobile EDS. Do you know what that process looks like?
What happens to your body like what symptoms other then the normal ones?
I'm 14 yr old girl btw
@@ConfusedAzaleaFlower-zg6vgFor my wife it took 5 years to finally get diagnosed by a specialist. His trick was to check for hypermobility in the hand bones. For my daughter, the diagnosis consisted of a brighton test to test hypermobility, genetic testing to rule out thing like vascular eds (type 4) regular eds (type 1 and 2) marfan syndrome and some other genetic defects.
Where i live, another criteria is serious hindrence in daily live due to instability. Think of wheelchair use for long distances or dislocating shoulders getting dressed. Those kind of things. Without these severe hinderences, the diagnosis is usually hyper mobility disorder (hms).
My daughter has been getting fysical therapy since she was 2 as strength training is important to prevent dislocation and provide stability normally given by connective tissue. Unfortunately, you wont know the severity of the disease after puberty as hormones (especially estrogen) are suspected to worsen sympoms significantly. This is thougt to be the reason for eds being a disease mainly found in women.
Gope this help but feel free vro ask more questions if anything is unclear
@@ConfusedAzaleaFlower-zg6vg theres a lot of reported intense period cramp symptoms for ciswomen and afab trans people, a higher proportion of people with EDS have intense period symptoms compared to the general population. But theres certainly plenty of ways to manage such symptoms as well. Doctors and the EDS community are pretty great at finding solutions and coming up with home remedies and ways to personally manage symptoms of all kinds, not just this.
Trans people who take testosterone generally find their flexibility and symptoms overall ease, while people taking estrogen as HRT end up with symptoms and mobility getting more intense. This is because estrogen is doing the exact same thing that hypermobility already does - it makes your collagen more stretchy and flexible.
Theres lots of different kinds of symptoms, because there's different kinds of EDS, I can't recall quite how many. And then there's just general hypermobility. EDS in very simple (and not entirely accurate) terms could be 'hypermobility + other stuff.'
Some of the EDS variations have issues with bad scarring, cardiovascular issues with the arteries and veins in general, issues with valves in the heart, problems with vision (there's collagen in the lens of the eye), and on and on. For the most part there's a genetic test that you can do for most of the EDS variations, but it can be difficult to get access to do the test for some people.
You and that one guy that tells you how to do calisthenics at home while perched on stuff are the sweetest fitness people I've ever seen.
Hampton from Hybrid Calisthenics?
You should check out Jaxblade too, he's a great guy but more high energy. Not as calm as Hampton and David but definitely just as sweet :)
(note: he is currently going through grief from the loss of his best friend, so he's taken a break from uploading.)
That's... A surprisingly accurate description of Hampton lol
@@highTideWaves yeah him! What a sweet man.
@@RamenNoodle1985 yes! I couldn't remember his name but every time I see him he's climbing on stuff.
Being hyper mobile also makes it easier to dislocate or hyper extend a joint. I learned that the hard way 🤣
Edit: Thanks for giving me some fun stories to read, have a great day✌️
Also easier to put it back into place.
Yeah, rolled my ankle hard and walked it off after a few hours
@@ulogy rolled ankles is why I wear long tube socks. You can use them to make an ankle brace if you know how to tie them.
@@marcusthesharkfrancisyes, this is true, but I think it would be nicer to not have the issue in the first place 😭
Geen arrow is hyper mobile 🤯
I HAVE HYPERMOBILE EDS TOO!! It actually comes from a mutation in the gene that produces type 3 collagen, which is important in hair, skin, nails, etc
My dude packing the whole sausage factory 🏭
I was waiting for that😂
Everybody gets a sausage😊😊😊
I was looking for this comment😂
AINT NO WAY
😂😂😂😂
The problem with having a connective tissue disorder is that connective tissue is literally what holds you together
Yep I have a doctor that wants me to get tested for it because I for one fit the diagnostic criteria almost to a tea and 2 I have some rare issue with my Pancreas and they can't find a single reason why my Pancreas is damaged but anybody who knows about it doesn't take my insurance it's such a bummer 💀
Ye 😬
can confirm, just diagnosed with eds, but too late, injured at work, I'm only 30, I'm in my 4th round of a 6-week physical therapy program, since last February I've gone from 256lbs to 165lbs. Because I'm now in constant pain from injury, combined with eds, this has made my recovery SLOW af because i have to really push myself to see results, (which is hard to due in constant pain lol)
@@Daphny0992welcome to adult hood in america. Where insurance costs an arm and a leg so that the greedy billionairs in the pharmaceutical companies get their money 😊
@@Daphny0992time to move to Canada free
Love that you keep bringing awareness to those of us with EDS AND showcasing ways to strengthen joints to minimize the dislocations ❤
You're welcome!
I have EDS and the dislocations are half the fun. Like I have my arm dislocated right now using it has a pillow.
Fr and I also have EDS
These two definitely banging
Oh hell nah🥶💀
I already knew bro aint focused on no females after I seen that video with him working on his arch on all fours 😂 Aye bless his soul though hes just wanna be flexible 😂
The flexy guy is very cute, no wonders
😂😂
Seek help
That one episode of Amazing World of Gumball
YEAH
That's the first thing I thought
Holy shit i knew it look familiar
I have EDS too. Haven't had a dislocation in 3 years! It used to happen at least monthly until I really started training.
Thats wild considering it’s fairly rare in the general population. Couldn’t imagine dislocation monthly. Does it hurt?
@tychodancer yes it did at first, but less so after a couple times.
@@yummyjackalmeat Oh interesting.
@@tychodancermy smallest toes dislocate constantly, right at the ball of the foot. It used to hurt a lot, but after the first couple of times, it turned into more of a burning/itching sensation. That and the pressure is how I know the toe is out of place. Unfortunately I've worn down the end of the joint far enough that they slip out if my feet swell even slightly, and some days I have to hold it in place for ten to fifteen minutes until it'll stay on its own and not pop out as soon as I let go. And, I had a rheumatologist tell me I fit the minimum criteria for EDS, but never actually got tested for it, so I can't say for sure if it's just a random thing or if it's an actual disorder.
@@j.g.3453 you ever tape your toes in place? :D
Very important video, thank you!! Been loving all the collab videos recently. Thanks for putting in so much work for us!
I've got hEDS too! I'm so happy to be seeing more people in fitness starting to talk about this disorder because it really does inflict how much(if any) of certain exercises you can do
I have that disorder and that guys physique made me feel very motivated. Thank you guys.
Yessss I’ve been INSANELY flexible my whole life but with extremely bad joints 😭 the only thing that has helped is strength training! If I stop strength training (like I did during pandemic) I notice the pain returning to my joints immediately. I’ll be going to the gym forever, apparently
Same with me!
But I also threw classical ballet in the mix (semi advanced level, so a lot of barre and floor, but nothing crazy. No points). There are a lot of static movements in there and a focus on balance. + the flexible movements helps loosening up the locked painful joints.
@@canwejustnot yes! I find Pilates & yoga help a lot in similar ways as you mentioned about ballet! Needless to say fitness is a huuuuge part of my life and I think it will have to stay that way. I also enjoy long distance walking and hiking in areas that aren’t super rocky (I’m scared for my ankles)
👍
I'm like 20 and every time I kneel down to pick something up I immediately regret it for the rest of the day lol. My co-workers look at me weird when im walking funny for the rest of the day.
Do you stretch before workouts?
That man stomach = 🌊
Wow.. my mum made me think our EDS Hypermobility was a reason to be super careful and afraid of hurting myself but i kinda wish i'd grown up with the confidence to push myself
I mean you can still easily dislocate your joints
@@BluJay_Rx well, of course lol but I feel like I lost out on some experiences by choosing to be overly-cautious about my condition
atp i think it just seems different on afab and amab
hope if u want to push urself u can/gen, /pos
for most people with eds, safe exercise is possible as long as you know what to do and what to avoid! funny enough I grew up undiagnosed and wish I was a lot more careful because I had many injuries that caused lifelong issues
@@charadreemurr9256what are all these anagrams
Woah dude, doctor literaly told me i am hyper mobile 2 days ago. And now this video i see second time hahaha. Thanks to you i learnt more about it
Google is listening 👀
Also have hEDS and would love to see more content about training with it!!
My physio's main advice was to never push your joints into your hypermobility, only stretch into the healthy range, and work on strength and balance exercises to support the joints.
If your knees and ankles give you trouble, it's also important to train your proprioception as well. She said a lot of ankle injuries come from a lack of spatial awareness rather than muscle/joint failure, which is definitely true for me. She had me on a regimen to stand on one foot with my eyes closed, which genuinely is some of the hardest training I've ever done. Haven't had an ankle injury since 🙏
Jeannie Di Bon specializes in EDS and movement! I did her program a while back. It looked easy but wasn't. 😂
Yes. This please
Same
We have an entire playlist for this :)
A friend of mine from college has EDS. One time we were doing homework or something in her dormroom and she paused in the middle of talking and said quite casually, "I think my spine just dislocated."
Thankfully, it had not. But apparently something like that had happened before. EDS is wild
lol i have it and theres actually some perks to it for some people.
If your friend has super soft skin or just softer than normal it’s likely that they’ll have less wrinkles in the future. It’s definitely my favorite thing about having EDS 😂
@@Snailmash She hasn't mentioned much about her skin texture to me, but she does look young for her age to me. She's also Amazigh though so I'm not sure if they just typically visibly age more slowly, plus she had very round, doll-like features which look youthful ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We're in our early 20's so hard to know yet lol
I hope you are doing well with your EDS! I know there are different types so I just hope everything is going as well for you as possible
My mother has Marfan's syndrome and I have it but I haven't been taken seriously by doctors yet but stretching is SO important to me. I have interstitial cystitis and I recently learned part of the reason why is I seem to have been born with pelvic floor dysfunction. I do yoga, stretching, and my PT does massages. I thought I had either endometriosis or Nutcracker syndrome, when my scans came up clean thank god and I spoke to the vein doctor about connective tissue disorder he said PT has helped patients like me and it did. I already have spider veins but no arterial issues. Also, when it comes to exercise I have to be so careful not to overdo it but to do it, so I tend to walk, bike, play with my nephew.
My IC has been doing better and I have been in much less pain although the massages hurt for a while and the butterfly style stretches too. Also yoga helps with the scoliosis pain.
Still working on my paperwork for the specialty clinic. The disease has taken much of my family, every step of it has been painful.
An interesting little thing is I seem to be prone to costochondritis so I try not to overwork the muscles over the ribs. It hurts like hell and it's harmless but you worry you're dying and then worry you will be dying and think you're fine.
I suppose yoga is both stretching and strength, but since not being put into pain olympics is PE anymore I have truly learned how good it is. I dunno if it's my connective tissue not knowing how to tissue particularly the joints but that touch your toes stuff is not for me.
I have EDS as well. I was diagnosed a couple years ago and after intense research by me and my mom (who is also diagnosed), we learned that swimming is an amazing way to teach muscles to support joints. And guys, these were some amazing ideas as well, thank you for bringing attention to a very unknown and unique disorder!!
Thank you. I have EDS and was having trouble figuring out how to stretch a tight muscle. Much appreciated for the tip about activating the muscle.
Thank you for spreading awareness of EDS! Some of whay you mentioned sounds like POTS, and I'd recommwnd looking into it as it also affects your autonomic nervous system, which is pretty kuch anything your nerves affect.
Happy EDS awareness month!
Happy awareness month! We've done some videos on POTS as well :)
Holy shit, i have hEDS and its rare you see a well known influencer mention it, thank you for spreading awareness!
Best video ever! Never knew about this until now! 😮
I wish I knew about my EDS when I was still able to work out. Thanks for talking about it.
and hEDS does not automatically make you more flexible than the average person! for me it means i have some areas of my body that are extra flexible, while others are very very locked up. so it takes a lot more work to find balance than if i was an average person with average flexibility. it really manifests differently in each one of us :)
i know someone with hEDS who breaks bones extremely easily, can’t even count how many at this point. whereas the one time i broke a toe, it healed in two days. i know someone whose hEDS causes them to have naturally bronze skin and a love for the sun, whereas i’m especially pale and i get rashes from the sun! we’re all so different.
If you get rashes from the sun, you might have sun urticaria or you've touched something that is phototoxic before exposing yourself to the sun.
Also your body might lock up some places to stabilize you in these areas because your hypermobile, but not strong enough to hold it in a healthy position.
@@LaricDuke yes! very common thing with EDS
fr I'm hypermobile but mostly in my knees which just makes my walking not stable
I know EDS can cause stretchy skin and poor wound healing, but I've never heard of it causing darker skin. How does that work?
It's ehlers danlos syndrome if you're wondering whay eds stands for, they're also more likely to dislocate their joints due to the laxity of the ligaments
Awesome video! I had wondered if you had hEDS. Thanks for bringing awareness to this not-so-rare but yet still somehow not well known disorder!
Yoooo always great to see some rep about this disorder in fitness! I’ve been away about my EDS for years, severe enough I’m banned from competitive martial arts and contact sports and been on my own journey for strength for awhile, great to see!
Strengthening is so KEY! It just needs to be done in a way that doesn't cause injury in a hypermobile body. We have an entire playlist for this.
I’ve started working out a lot. I’m down 15 pounds and I can nearly touch my toes for the first time. I don’t even do mobility work, I’m just lifting and walking. It’s just loosened up everything that got tight from not moving
yeah, not trying to be rude. But its really not an impressive feat. But when 60%+ of most western nations are overweight and then 15%+ lives a sedentary lifestyle it starts to seem outstanding.
When I was a little kid I could do splits and all sorts of other crazy stuff. Now most of that is gone at 32, but still can touch my toes.
@Under-Kaoz nah making a big change in lifestyle is definitely a big deal. Congrats to bro for getting in shape
@@justinfleming675yeah i agree, there’s no need to put down someone for making progress!
I have hEDS as well. I mostly use a wheelchair. The range of symptoms and severity with EDS is ridiculous
omg i have hEDS and i love seeing other people online who have it because it makes me feel less alone
Hey, I have h-EDS too! Thanks for raising awareness, love the channel.
blud turned into gumball in that one episode mid explanation
Gomu gomu no.... Eww what's that?
My friend has hypermobile EDS and there are so few professionals who know how to help that moving is scary for her, i wish it was talled about more
Come on, this set up was the best idea for a RUclips Short, well done 👏
Having hEDS but also seeing others with hEDS make and be in videos like these helps so much and in so many ways
Glad it's helpful! I'm pretty passionate about it!
I have dysautonomia with POTS but not EDS and I started yoga at the YMCA today. After the teacher mentioned I was very limber and I explained my hypermobility cause I thought she might've been referring the flexy stuff I actually barely felt. At that, she advised me to next time focus on keeping my muscles engaged so I don't hurt myself 😅❤
Sounds like you might have EDS friend (someone with EDS and POTS)
@hazeld8016 Nah, I've looked into it thoroughly, but I appreciate that you were wanting to help. 💙 I've looked at all the EDS types, and I don't meet the criteria for any of them. My hypermobility is just in my joints and primarily my wrists, hands, ankles, and knees. But I don't have the other hypermobile stuff.
@hazeld8016 people can have benign hypermobility (30% of the population) or a very very mild form of HSD without it being EDS ❤
@me-he8vv in ngl, I don't really believe that those conditions aren't types of EDS. They have to be collagen disorders. They just seem to be mild enough in their symptoms to not count as EDS, which is dumb imo bc EDS means collagen disorder, regardless of the severity. I know those diagnoses exist but I think they're only given by lazy doctors or those who are trying to gatekeep the diagnosis of EDS because "its supposed to be rare"
I was NOT prepared for that
ty! i want to work out but im scared because of my EDS, this video boosted a lil of my spirit
My dad has EDS and he’ll tell you any time that it’s a curse. He played a lot of sports and because of his EDS, he was able to get inhumanely strong. Nowadays, he’s 50 years old and consistently has joints popping in and out of place. His shoulders and thumbs are the biggest problem, but he commonly has ribs that slip out in the night. It’s also kinda odd because mostly everyone that has EDS has different symptoms.
I have Eds! I can’t believe im seeing my diagnosis in the wild😂
Love your shorts. Very informative.
Man I love both of your personalities, you guys seem like so much fun to be around 🍀😄🤟
I have HEDS too and I actually use your videos for exercises that work with my body, because if you have the mobility and none of the muscles around the joists you just end up with dislocations and a whole lot of pain!
I'd like to point out that you can also be a bit prone to accidents on some gym machines. For legs push, bell curls, hip thrusts, etc. there is a risk when you do the full motion that you're joints will bend more and you can end up with muscles tearing or joints fractures.
This was such an incredible video. The collaboration in teamwork was perfect
That one short. I still can't unsee.
He definately did the deed
Bro got the gumball stomach 😂
As a person who used to do gymnastics(and is double jointed lol), even for me, some of this looks painful, you are incredible for being able to do it
Love your cooking channel man didn’t know you where so flexible 😮
I’m hypermobile. Standing hurts and I’m in pain on a daily basis lool
Moose knuckle unlocked 🔓
My brother has EDS. I am so glad that people are actually raising awareness to it. I feel like it’s often overlooked and not very well-known.
Thank you for brining awareness to hEDS it is really important to me
The streching is not the only thing you saw
Bros bricked up💀
I have both asthma and hyper mobility :D
I’m happy that hypermobility is a bit more known hopefully now? Idk if it’s EDS or not though. I cannot think of what that means rn. Anyways, although I’m still more stretchy on average something my dad was taught by somebody (my dad is also hyper mobile) that he told me was if your gonna be more flexible than (I wanna say it’s 20% of the population?) then you have to be stronger than 20% of the population. And although you can still be flexible without that strength, it’s easier to be strong. Anyways, love the videos David!
I thought gumball was lying with his tummy dance
You shockedme with the steroids part
Nice info btw
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE ELSE ABLE TO MOVE THEIR ARMs LIKE THAT!!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME!!!!! I'M NOT ALONE!!!!
Thank you for making the world better!
I watched this 5x to see his stomach waves 😯 idk why… but it made my inner child happy 😀
Wait, wait, wait, is being able to do turn in your elbows like that *not* normal?
Next month is EDS awareness month!
Why?
I have mild EDS, and I am very prone to injury so I have to constantly see a chiropractor and physiotherapist. With EDS injuries are often overlooked and harder to be diagnosed due to the extreme range of motion of your limited movement being greater than the average healthy movements of other people. Because of this it took a few doctors before I found one that understood my condition and was able to help me.
😭 I have that too and when I am in pain my friends look at me like I’m insane-
This dude just has the best energy with everyone he’s with
I’m both!!! :D
I actually was so freaked out when I had to take steroids for some really stubborn pneumonia. (At least I think… that or it was for asthma. I don’t remember, I stopped running after I kept feeling like I bent my knee backwards when I did…)
I've been tested for EDS repeatedly cause my doctors cant think of it as anywthing but EDS. double jointed shoulders and what no, stupid flexible, with the accompanied jount pain. Did go through a chronic pain clinic for a few years and feel much better. Now flexible with significantly lower pain!
DUDE. I HAD A FEELING HE HAD EDS BY SEEN HIM IN MOVE U VIDS. His movements and range of motion are so similar to mine. It's an inspiration that someone can have such a physique even witn this disease.
This guy would make a great dancer!
I have hypermobile Eds. Fun party trick when your not in constant pain 😊
Hi, my daughter has EDS, diagnosed a couple years ago in her first year out of school. I would love to see more of this sort of content. Both the ‘hey it’s not all doom and gloom’ type content and the strength training aspects. All of our research has said the best treatment for EDS is strength training.
I love this video.
I had a friend that had Ehlers Danlos, she couldn't even pick up a mug of coffee without her arm falling out of its socket. She needed 24hr care. Glad you're healthy despite it!
In my family just about everyone can twist their arms all the way around so out elbows bend the opposite way. We also have few other similar things, but bc of that it makes it harder when working out bc out how we bend
yeah because of my hypermobile joints, I always have joint pain especially if I've been walking after a while because if I'm not paying attention, my knees overextend when I walk.
Dude same , i am also on steroids , for my asthma , im currently on one of the strongest medical steroids and have to carey around a card to show any medical professionals in emergancues because i am not allowrd certain medications will react badly with the steroid , not anobolics
I might have this to some degree. It's helped my rock climbing immensely
I don't have EDS but a lot of my main joints, especially the weight bearing ones are hypermobile. This has led to me requiring lots of physio due to my knees and hips dislocating and I'm no longer able to run. My hips have a full range of motion which helps a lot at pole dancing but my flexibility is limited by my hamstrings (improving thanks to training through pole dancing).
I got EDS aswell man... Can be annoying but its more than manageable for me
Most of my family has h-eds (me, my brother, our mum, and her mum we assume has it too)
As children, me and my brother used to challenge each other who could bend and twist the strangest (he was always way more flexible in his hands and arms, while i beat him out in the legs, but i had an advantage there bc i did ballet for years)
Nowdays, im and adult and hes and older teenager and we both have heart issues, as does our mum (although my brothers is way better controlled than mine or my mums), and me and my mum have chronic pain in our digestive tracts and reproductive tract issues too
My hyperflexibility is always fun, but it tends to creep people out so i dont get to much
But it is not worth the pain it brings
I have EDS i believe. Dislocatable shoulder, thumbs, etc.
But none of the upside like natural flexibility lol
I’m going to get tested for HEDS soon…me and my sister have been researching it and wanting to get tested because we have a lot of the same symptoms…my sister was diagnosed but I haven’t yet but it’s basically implied that I have it and I must say the only thing about it that is cool is the hyper mobility..I am constantly in pain and constantly have joint pain…idk if there’s a joint in my body that doesn’t pop when I move it…so no you don’t want it
Please do a collab with Hybrid Calisthenics cos the two of you are my inspirations for fitness no lie 😩🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
i have hypermobile eds too! it doesnt always look like that! im not naturally flexible but i do stretch, but i move my limbs in unnatural ways, like my elbows can stick forwards when i stretch my arms out, and the most comfortable way to sit is in the W sit thing. but i hate the downsides. i get migraines and terrible pains, i bruise very easily and its quite painful
Get my boy on America's got talent
Thank you for being awareness EDS
I have EDS and I don’t care about it but I love it when I show someone about when I roll my stomach like what he did in the vid.
Yeah can’t do these but would love to watch more ❤
Yayyyy more positivity and collaboration!
I have hypermobile EDS, but the hypermobility varies greatly in my family. I'm the least hypermobile but I have the most comorbidities. I'm also the only male in my family with it (EDS is 6 times more common in females.) if you have hEDS be careful exercising don't push yourself, and focus on strengthening your stabilizing joints if you don't want to dislocate your joints.
I suspected having eds for a long time, also crack my hands very often and heard it might be a symptom. Got a lab test scheduled once but never really got arouns to it
No worries I also needed ster-oids due to my asthma I feel you
I haven’t been diagnosis w anything but I’m hyper mobile in some ways and very much not flexible in others. Like I need to stretch my muscles for sure but my individual joints can move a lot. My hips hyperextend and dislocate pretty often but usually if I sit in odd positions, if my legs are stretched out it never happens. Like I can’t touch my toes anymore (partly from some weight gain and partly bc I don’t stretch often anymore) or do splits, but if my knees are bent I can tuck them behind my shoulders bc my hips just rotate a ton. It sucks it’s super painful when my hips aren’t where they’re supposed to be and I have some nerve entrapments in other joints bc of over extensions. :/