I had a guy in my company that got scared about being deployed to Iraq. He figured he’d smoke some weed, get busted and not have to go to Iraq. Well, he got busted, was sent to Iraq anyways, returned home, than got kicked out!
I got caught up when I was in the Navy 25 years ago...Got court martialled and had to do 45 days brig time because I was caught in a drug sting...Got an OTH Other Than Honorable discharge BUT. I got my life together...I'm 51 and now work for a government agency as a maintenance worker and doing very well. Married for 17 years, own my home and set to retire in 7 years...Hope you're doing alright brother. Life is just beginning for you
@@stn7172 I applied for the Housing Authority in 2008...I was already working at UPS but Housing Authority sounded better...I started as a temp... cutting grass and weed eating with the grounds crew all over the city. Got hired full time 5 months later. Learned high rise building maintenance. Plumbing, some electrical, waste management, grounds keeping...prep vacant apartment's for new residents. Worked my way up from a maint.1 to a maint. 3 been doing it 13 years.. $27 hr...I had so many jobs before this but you can't beat the benefits. I always put that I was in the Navy on all my applications but nobody ever asked how or why I got out and I ain't saying nothing either. I'm living a good life if I do say so myself
I’m in the Army too. But that’s crazy asf how he went from a whole specialist to a fuzzy just for pissing hot. Like daaaaamn it’s ppl who do shit way worse & go down like one rank.
I've seen Sgts busted down to fuzzy for the same shit. Seen CSMs brought to Sgt and kicked out for a DUI. Doesn't matter for them really. When they get put their paperwork will have the highest rank they've obtained.
I went through the same thing in 2017 at 26 years old after 6 years in. I had little boy mentality and now I'm a grown man with 2 kids and I wish I could go back and keep pushing. We just have to overcome and keep it going
new subscriber just found your channel watched a few videos.. you’re going to look back on these one day and remember it as the golden years.. you’re so down to earth !! All love keep them coming ❤️!!
This is why I’m glad I joined older, smoked and got drunk throughout all my younger years! It’s past me now, and I have no interest in drinking or smoking now!
I got kicked out a few weeks before my ETS date for pissing hot once. Still a huge future out there . Don’t be discouraged . Everyone messes up. Even if it was 10 years ago
A big lesson to take away from this is choose you hang around wisely. If people are bad influences and don’t care about their own consequences, they sure as hell don’t care about your consequences.
Booted out of the Navy for testing positive. To hell with them. Chief beats his wife to the point she has a miscarriage, moved to different ship. A petty officer gets 3 DUIs in 2 years, Reduction in rank. A Officer sexually assaults a civilian, give him a letter of reprimand. I get drugged, have witnesses, surveillance footage, and the people confess when arrested, The board gave me a General because I “Didn’t have to accept the Drink”.
I got kicked out of the Navy for weed too. The biggest deal is separating from comrades. I had 45 days emi too. The old military used to smoke hella weed. I had an officer pilot offer me coke at a club. Coke is done heavily in ranks yet weed is demonized. When I got kicked I went to school anyway... Was a web developer for 10yrs now I'm moving towards owning my own truck company. YOU STILL A VETERAN IN A CLUB THAT CIVILIANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. The hardest part is redefining who your sense of self is after service. Mental is the hard part. YOU STILL A VET AND CAN SHARE STORIES WITH OTHER VETS. SALUTE
Yeah but you gotta understand most hard drugs can get out the system in 2-3 days I smoked weed befofe I joined I would never do hard drugs but if we in a junkies mind it’s safer far as UAs to do harder drugs
Marijuana being demonized by the military is very dumb. There’s nothing wrong with smoking a joint after work, just as there’s nothing wrong with drinking a glass of wine after work
I’m sorry this happened... it’s not easy adjusting after making a selfish decision to smoke weed while serving.... I wish they would have put him in rehab or got him help before kicking him out... I came back from Iraq and I couldn’t adjust and smoked weed... a selfish decision I made... and regret to this day....but I realized that despite that mistake I learned a lesson... every job I had after the Army ... I was promoted very quickly due to my hard work and dedication... I am a truck driver now making over 65,000 a year...and I appreciate my blessings now and no longer take them for granted... and don’t worry about none of your battles who are about to ... if they haven’t already start acting shady... but whenever they decide to get out the service.... guess what... they will have to find a job just like you... they will have to adjust to no longer being in the army just like you... if you want I will do a video explaining my transition after the army... if I could offer any advice please let me know... but just know everything will be ok...
It really depends on your unit and battalion commander cause soldiers in my unit been popping hot hella and they retain them. A close friend of mine popped hot and he went from E4 to E3 and is in process to get a article 15. But looking like they gonna retain him. Update: they did not retain him
@@Punisher1830 it depends on the brigade commander. It’s essentially their choice. I know a guy who popped hot for cocaine and he was retained and another guy popped hot for weed and he got let go. Just depends.
Mine was a sharp incident my platoon in basic training tried to lie and get me kicked out I had to beg to stay in and thankfully my drill seargents and a letter I wrote to company commander vouched for me so I got to stay in.
I thank you for this But I knew it will be ok. I have 2 friends that are doing fine after getting kicked out. It eased my mind but this ease my mind more I know I can make money when I go back the military made me more money hungry and I'ma smoke out the bag ya feel me!
@@txskid1 come on man, Weed shouldn’t be considered a drug but yeah, as a military personnel u shouldn’t consume any intoxicating or impaired medications
wow seriously 3 years a little pot.. you’re a soldier for life.. society does a lot worse on an average day this could of happened to anyone.. you’re a great guy just be honest honest with future employers and i don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t give you an opportunity. best of luck !!
If my man got kicked out for that I wouldn’t know what to say to him...I would still love him yes but I’ve been with him the entire way. I’m talking going to his UTAs (every single one of them). Seeing him graduate while going months without him that would be heart breaking for me. It’s a privilege honestly. I feel bad for him but like cmon now do better but you’re not a failure.
Bro thought his name wasn’t gnna be called. Bro was in formation and they was like miles hahahahaha hahahahaha. He almost sweated all the THc outta his body when he heard his name... musta been gassssss
You don’t get the GI bill with a general under honorable conditions. You need a straight up honorable. That’s the only benefit you lose with a general discharge.
I had a trouble when I was in service, my punishment was as; report to orderly room hourly until 11:PM and by the time I go to the bed I had to change my tig uniform to class A uniform n had to be inspected by Battalion staff duty officer, duration of that punishment was 3 months, weekend was same shit as normal as regular duty day as well. Now it’s a one of my good ....memories as well now I am 71 years old jackass man
Enlisted 2001... first article 15 was just after Iraq in 2004 for weed but my home girl who was on extra duty hooked it up and threw away my paperwork ..... second article 15 was in Korea for drunk on duty but I got fucked over cuz I was supposed to go clear and not be in formation but top hated me for no reason ..... 3rd article 15 was for drunk on duty 8 months after I got my article 15 for drunk in duty lol ..... went from E-5 to E-1 in 8 months .....STILL GOT AN HONORABLE lol
I’m in the same situation as him right now and I’m praying to god right now because they haven’t decided on what’s going to happen..... myself and 5 other people got caught the same night. I’m pretty sure that I’m not going to make it and this is the absolute worse feeling that you could have. Anyone that’s in, please do not risk everything that you love and have worked so hard for.
Update: I was admin separated from the marines with a general discharge (under honorable conditions) but I still feel horrible for abandoning my brothers over a stupid decision. I tired to go to a court martial but my battalion denied the request. I’m currently going through the process to have my RE code changed so I can possibly get back in. I feel like I have a hole in my chest.
T Will I’m trying brother. I’ve been working doing welding and fabrication but it still feels like I lost my identity. I was supposed to be a marine and I lost what made me myself.
An article 15 is nonjudicial punishment. It is administered by hour commanding officer. You give him your side and usually your First Sgt gives the government's side. The punishment is limited by your rank and the commanders rank. If they really want to burn you they have your 2nd or higher level give the article 15. If you decline a article 15 they will convene a summary courts martial which is a officer listening to the two sides. The punishment is about the same, but it's a felony conviction.
@@stevenhierro4729 oh yes. Everyone that fails a pee test claims they didn't know how it happened. It never gets them off! You can also go to jail for being late to work.
@@stevenhierro4729 there is a wide range of punishments available. From a verbal reprimand to serious jail time. In my 25 years I saw the whole range. A person might be offered an article 15 and refuses, then a summary courts, you can refuse that too, then they will go to special court martial. Their not dropping the matter. The punishment then is serious and there is a 95% conviction rate at court martial. Young soldiers/ airmen just don't think they will take it that far. I have seen a court martial for not wearing a hat, not getting a haircut, being late, over sleeping, sleeping at work, etc.
You got to be careful who you pick friends to be with. We had a four day weekend one time and we headed to Texas from Ft. Riley, Ks. and we had gone to a party. We had not submitted leave or requested to go past the mileage distance allowed. One of my friends who was a communications specialist, ended up doing cocaine which at the time I didn’t know he had done. Come Tuesday we had a UA to do and he tried everything to clean his system. At the end he got booted because he carried at security clearance. He lost everything like your friend their. But I was interrogated about his use and if I used drugs.
This exactly why I don't do drugs. Not throwing my career away just for some weed, cocaine, ect... People always trynna hustle the system. Wish you the best man.
I mean, there’s worse that could have happened to this guy. I have been in the Air Force for 9 years and have seen (depending on military judge) people get a slap on the wrist and reduced in rank *but not kicked out* and on the flip end I have seen people get reduced all the way down to E1 - confined in a military brig for 10 months and THEN once you’re out of jail you get kicked out 😂 the military isn’t fair. It was never meant to be
@Never lose sleep over the small stuff Im assuming navy then? You guys operate a bit differently than the Air Force.. At least from what I can tell with my experience in the AF. I agree with you on what you have said though, its all subject to who your case gets seen by.. If youre lucky to only get non-judicial punishment from your direct command thats much better than a court martial is but sometimes Non-judicial punishment is just a slower end to your career if you are reduced in rank.. I saw one guy that had 17 years in as an E-6 and he got in trouble for inappropriate relations with a subordinate (E-3 chick) and command got word of it - they did a full on investigation and afterwards the commander decided to just give him an Article 15, reduce him in rank from E6 down to E-5 and that was the kiss of death for this guy. He immediately High year tenured at that rank was no longer eligible for re-enlistment or even allowed to join the reserves with a bad record. lol. That commander was smart.. he knew what he could do to solve a problem, much faster than a Court martial would have been as well. RIP that guys retirement lol
@sts what is the process? Tested positives of weed, took a seminar for people who’s under investigation and who’s getting kicked out, and rank down from e-3 to e-2. We haven’t heard from anyone yet. And , was refused an appeal
I seen a video where they got to leave infantry training for a day on Thanksgiving or something n one guy took off n did hella Coke and came back the next day 😂😂
If you have done more than one contract you get all your benefits even if you get kicked out for anything.. so I’m guessing he’s re-enlisted at some point in his career and the benefits come from that first contract
Why do people feel bad for him? Dude did it to himself. A grown man knowing he's doing something that's going to get him kicked out. Actions have consequences.
you’re right, not like anyone should “feel bad” for anyone.. everyone has they’re own problems to deal with. butt it’s not the end of his life either, people that think that live life wayy too stiff.. not everything goes as planned.. shit happens... he’s still a soldier in my eyes
When i was in the Army someone that i know got busted for PCP. He was 17 years old, 18 perhaps. He ended up getting a Field Grade Article 15 and was happy to get that. It's a good thing that we had a Lt.Col. that had no desire to destroy a kids life forever because at that age he really didn't understand the gravity of the situation. Fortunately for him, The Colonel did understand.
@jkl8718 Lieutenant Colonel Felter. That was his name. The last I heard of him he was getting ready to be promoted to a full bird Colonel. I hope he made it to the rank of General, because he certainly deserved it.
Because for a lot of us the military is a shithole. I'm stationed at Fort Bliss Tx and I swear to god if they ever said to me "you can leave the army right now with no issues", I'd be outta here so fuckin fast.
Man I got caught with roaches in my car from a year ago a couple months ago . Got arrested and they charged me with felony drug possession . Recently I popped positive on a drug test . Now they bouta kick me out.
Hey, you made a dumb decision. You're human, we all make mistakes. I've done shit I'm not proud of too. You can dwell on it or you can learn from it. Not much else to it. All there is to it.
I was in the navy from 84-89 and drug use was crazy. Meth and cocaine was everywhere on base. I experimented during the time I was in but a soon as I got out I never did it again. I was never a smoker and weed wasn’t as popular as it is now. Ppl would be obviously tweeking but it was kinda accepted.
I would have smoked a lot sooner if I knew how small of a penalty it was. Make more money working a no skill factory job with 10-15 less hours of work per week than if you were an E-3. Just no free college, it's a fair trade off.
@@stevenhierro4729 I was never given a opportunity to speak about it. A few people in my unit tested positive as well and they said they weren’t going to use it against any of us. But once I wanted to get out from DV against me and I was also pregnant while dealing with that they tried to talk me into staying in and once I still rejected they used it against me.
@@stevenhierro4729 well in my case yes. I think it was just bad leadership in my unit and probably in my duty station as well. Because I know a lot of people that I was stationed with that talked negatively especially on my unit
Other Than Honorable (OTH) An OTH is a form of administrative discharge. ... Generally, in order to receive VA benefits and services, the Veteran's character of discharge or service must be under "other than dishonorable" conditions (e.g., honorable, under honorable conditions, general) as stated by VA policy.
Did he just pop hot once and they put him out??? I’m going through the same thing right now but I think they bullshittin me. I know a lot of people that got a second chance...
Going thru this right now... does anyone have any info If I can still get a career in the medical field after receiving a general discharge?? Will it pop up on a background check or something??? Figured I just wouldn't even bring up my military history hahaha let me know if anyone knows anything please
Me too. I’m so disappointed in myself but all you can do is live and learn. But yeah I’m pretty sure it comes up on a background check saying what kind of discharge
Sorry this happened to you. But you seem to be taking it in stride. Describe how often you smoked please. You did mention alot. You can get away with it from time to time but if you do it regularly its like you stated that its not a matter of if its a matter of when
I’m definitely a weed head but I stopped because of joining the army never let any drug or habit hinder your job or a career‼️
I had a guy in my company that got scared about being deployed to Iraq. He figured he’d smoke some weed, get busted and not have to go to Iraq. Well, he got busted, was sent to Iraq anyways, returned home, than got kicked out!
DAMN!
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Thats fked
Thats fucked lol
Lmfao !!!! Ayoooo
I got caught up when I was in the Navy 25 years ago...Got court martialled and had to do 45 days brig time because I was caught in a drug sting...Got an OTH Other Than Honorable discharge BUT. I got my life together...I'm 51 and now work for a government agency as a maintenance worker and doing very well. Married for 17 years, own my home and set to retire in 7 years...Hope you're doing alright brother. Life is just beginning for you
How'd you get into maintenance
Your story is similar to this guy I know.
@@stn7172 its pretty easy, just apply for a GOOD cleaning service in a good building or area.. i did it in LGA airport and it was cool
need advice
@@stn7172 I applied for the Housing Authority in 2008...I was already working at UPS but Housing Authority sounded better...I started as a temp... cutting grass and weed eating with the grounds crew all over the city. Got hired full time 5 months later. Learned high rise building maintenance. Plumbing, some electrical, waste management, grounds keeping...prep vacant apartment's for new residents. Worked my way up from a maint.1 to a maint. 3 been doing it 13 years.. $27 hr...I had so many jobs before this but you can't beat the benefits. I always put that I was in the Navy on all my applications but nobody ever asked how or why I got out and I ain't saying nothing either. I'm living a good life if I do say so myself
I’m in the Army too.
But that’s crazy asf how he went from a whole specialist to a fuzzy just for pissing hot. Like daaaaamn it’s ppl who do shit way worse & go down like one rank.
All Seeing EYE lmfao please stfu. I definitely could’ve gotten in the Air Force and/or Navy & chose not to.
All Seeing EYE okay goofy...
I've seen Sgts busted down to fuzzy for the same shit. Seen CSMs brought to Sgt and kicked out for a DUI. Doesn't matter for them really. When they get put their paperwork will have the highest rank they've obtained.
Very true so true it hurts
It’s all about not meeting the standard and following the fucking rules. Fucking idiot.
I went through the same thing in 2017 at 26 years old after 6 years in. I had little boy mentality and now I'm a grown man with 2 kids and I wish I could go back and keep pushing. We just have to overcome and keep it going
new subscriber just found your channel watched a few videos.. you’re going to look back on these one day and remember it as the golden years.. you’re so down to earth !! All love keep them coming ❤️!!
loopy thank you❤️
This is why I’m glad I joined older, smoked and got drunk throughout all my younger years! It’s past me now, and I have no interest in drinking or smoking now!
What age did you join?
I feel you.. all of that is in the past, I just turned 19 and about to deploy in January.
Tonya Hughes 30
Mirajane’ at 19 you ain’t lived a life, you’ve yet to have some real fun but good luck!
I am about to join airforce at age 28, I can agree! I wasnt ready for the commitment that young but I am so settled down now, its game time
I got kicked out a few weeks before my ETS date for pissing hot once. Still a huge future out there . Don’t be discouraged . Everyone messes up. Even if it was 10 years ago
Did you accept article 15?
I’ve seen a lot of ppl get chaptered and how long it takes depends on how Persistent your leadership is with pushing the chapter packet
A big lesson to take away from this is choose you hang around wisely. If people are bad influences and don’t care about their own consequences, they sure as hell don’t care about your consequences.
now he can smoke as much as he want. life goes on❤️
Booted out of the Navy for testing positive. To hell with them. Chief beats his wife to the point she has a miscarriage, moved to different ship. A petty officer gets 3 DUIs in 2 years, Reduction in rank. A Officer sexually assaults a civilian, give him a letter of reprimand. I get drugged, have witnesses, surveillance footage, and the people confess when arrested, The board gave me a General because I “Didn’t have to accept the Drink”.
Woaaahhh what a fuckin reality we live man
Damn that's tuff! Good luck to you brotha ✊
I got kicked out of the Navy for weed too. The biggest deal is separating from comrades. I had 45 days emi too. The old military used to smoke hella weed. I had an officer pilot offer me coke at a club. Coke is done heavily in ranks yet weed is demonized. When I got kicked I went to school anyway... Was a web developer for 10yrs now I'm moving towards owning my own truck company. YOU STILL A VETERAN IN A CLUB THAT CIVILIANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. The hardest part is redefining who your sense of self is after service. Mental is the hard part. YOU STILL A VET AND CAN SHARE STORIES WITH OTHER VETS. SALUTE
@@hjkl4153 its an ego death. False sense of self passing away
How long did the process take and what discharge
Nice to hear this
You should’ve got you some certo
Yeah but you gotta understand most hard drugs can get out the system in 2-3 days I smoked weed befofe I joined I would never do hard drugs but if we in a junkies mind it’s safer far as UAs to do harder drugs
Marijuana being demonized by the military is very dumb. There’s nothing wrong with smoking a joint after work, just as there’s nothing wrong with drinking a glass of wine after work
@@BV1180 Low IQ, How do you get that?
Back in the day, my roommate got court-martialed and did 8 months for stealing video game consoles while deployed.
@Joshua Layug broke ahh
I’m sorry this happened... it’s not easy adjusting after making a selfish decision to smoke weed while serving.... I wish they would have put him in rehab or got him help before kicking him out... I came back from Iraq and I couldn’t adjust and smoked weed... a selfish decision I made... and regret to this day....but I realized that despite that mistake I learned a lesson... every job I had after the Army ... I was promoted very quickly due to my hard work and dedication... I am a truck driver now making over 65,000 a year...and I appreciate my blessings now and no longer take them for granted... and don’t worry about none of your battles who are about to ... if they haven’t already start acting shady... but whenever they decide to get out the service.... guess what... they will have to find a job just like you... they will have to adjust to no longer being in the army just like you... if you want I will do a video explaining my transition after the army... if I could offer any advice please let me know... but just know everything will be ok...
Best of luck my man. Learn from your mistakes.
Hope things get better for him. Keep ya head up and dont back down.
Bruh the army is fking evil af
It really depends on your unit and battalion commander cause soldiers in my unit been popping hot hella and they retain them. A close friend of mine popped hot and he went from E4 to E3 and is in process to get a article 15. But looking like they gonna retain him.
Update: they did not retain him
@@hjkl4153 yea pretty much…
Really? I thought they just kick them out right then and there or atleast prevent them from reenlisting.
@@Punisher1830 it depends on the brigade commander. It’s essentially their choice. I know a guy who popped hot for cocaine and he was retained and another guy popped hot for weed and he got let go. Just depends.
@@onlyyaoiedits I see, if someone tested positive maybe they will let the soldier know I guess, I'm not sure it's never happened to me.
@@Punisher1830 yea man don’t join the army lol or the military in general
I stopped smoking the moment I decided to join. It’s not worth losing my families livelihood. Then again I’m married with kids.
Mine was a sharp incident my platoon in basic training tried to lie and get me kicked out I had to beg to stay in and thankfully my drill seargents and a letter I wrote to company commander vouched for me so I got to stay in.
Ngl she’s pissing me off. Let him talk.
I thank you for this
But I knew it will be ok. I have 2 friends that are doing fine after getting kicked out. It eased my mind but this ease my mind more I know I can make money when I go back the military made me more money hungry and I'ma smoke out the bag ya feel me!
same fuck the army
I’m in 82ND rn and they be doing a lot. Atleast your discharge wasn’t hella bad! But that shit hella sucks tho still...
I'm sorry to hear that. I will keep him in my prayers. I know He made a mistake but God still has a plan for him.
I feel sad for him because he kind of looks sad, to me, but honestly life goes on just like he said... God bless him ♥️ And you too ♥️
People who excuse criminal behavior are part of the problem and NOT the solution.
@@txskid1 shut up egg head
@@txskid1 come on man, Weed shouldn’t be considered a drug but yeah, as a military personnel u shouldn’t consume any intoxicating or impaired medications
@@txskid1 bruh shut up you sound so retarded😭
@@txskid1 All the sexual assault going on in the military is criminal as well...
wow seriously 3 years a little pot.. you’re a soldier for life.. society does a lot worse on an average day this could of happened to anyone.. you’re a great guy just be honest honest with future employers and i don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t give you an opportunity. best of luck !!
If my man got kicked out for that I wouldn’t know what to say to him...I would still love him yes but I’ve been with him the entire way. I’m talking going to his UTAs (every single one of them). Seeing him graduate while going months without him that would be heart breaking for me. It’s a privilege honestly. I feel bad for him but like cmon now do better but you’re not a failure.
Chill you acting like you the one that went through bootcamp 😂
Sergeant Alicia Keys.. tell him
People keep talking, they can say what they like
But all I know is everything's gonna be alrighttt
😂😂
loopy PERIODDD
My two buddies got kicked out in 1991. I've kept in touch with them . They still have general discharge and regret what happened in 2019
my brain during the whole video; Tryna find my way back way back 😂😂
Bro thought his name wasn’t gnna be called. Bro was in formation and they was like miles hahahahaha hahahahaha. He almost sweated all the THc outta his body when he heard his name... musta been gassssss
Lmaoooo
Damn keep ya head up and stay strong homie...... weed ain't no drug and I feel he deserves a second chance to 4real...
You don’t get the GI bill with a general under honorable conditions. You need a straight up honorable. That’s the only benefit you lose with a general discharge.
Not true, I served 2 yrs 7 months and I get 80% of my GI
@@jasonbentley4832u have other than honorable discharge?
@@jasonbentley4832did you upgrade via DRB or did the VA upgrade you?
@@jasonbentley4832how
Popped hot after my deployment. Separating my brothers and me was the hardest thing, ever.
She likes him and he doesn’t even realize. If a girl liked me like this, need I say more
Nah
@@itspennyduh yes, don’t be shy, tell him lol
Can you still purchase a pistol if you get a general discharge?
I got kickd before AIT n got the entry level separation back in 2017. Do you think I’d be able to reenlist now?
Yes you will its 6 months
You'll be ight bud. life may be harder at first, but it will all be a distant memory
This chick really giggling at everything like its a joke
Life update: he’s doing fine and he is still my dawg 💙💙💙 @ Tony if you see this just know I love you lmao.
U got kicked too?! I watched this every time I got called for a test was going thru it mentally my whole time in and finally caught up to me
I had a trouble when I was in service, my punishment was as; report to orderly room hourly until 11:PM and by the time I go to the bed I had to change my tig uniform to class A uniform n had to be inspected by Battalion staff duty officer, duration of that punishment was 3 months, weekend was same shit as normal as regular duty day as well. Now it’s a one of my good ....memories as well now I am 71 years old jackass man
I pissed hot for weed, drunk on duty, and a dui and still managed to finish my enlistment and get an honorable
Lmao when was this
Enlisted 2001... first article 15 was just after Iraq in 2004 for weed but my home girl who was on extra duty hooked it up and threw away my paperwork ..... second article 15 was in Korea for drunk on duty but I got fucked over cuz I was supposed to go clear and not be in formation but top hated me for no reason ..... 3rd article 15 was for drunk on duty 8 months after I got my article 15 for drunk in duty lol ..... went from E-5 to E-1 in 8 months .....STILL GOT AN HONORABLE lol
@@thehighofmusic82 you stupid fuck
@@Cappinasd your mother should have swallowed you
@@thehighofmusic82 man that’s crazy
God has other plans, praying for you and your future endeavors✨
That fact that you can persevere after this is strength. I've had associates that deleted themselves after getting in trouble
I’m in the same situation as him right now and I’m praying to god right now because they haven’t decided on what’s going to happen..... myself and 5 other people got caught the same night. I’m pretty sure that I’m not going to make it and this is the absolute worse feeling that you could have. Anyone that’s in, please do not risk everything that you love and have worked so hard for.
Noah Sharp any update on yo situation fam ?
How’d it go
Update: I was admin separated from the marines with a general discharge (under honorable conditions) but I still feel horrible for abandoning my brothers over a stupid decision. I tired to go to a court martial but my battalion denied the request. I’m currently going through the process to have my RE code changed so I can possibly get back in. I feel like I have a hole in my chest.
Kaleb 152001 Aw I’m sorry. Keep your head up
T Will I’m trying brother. I’ve been working doing welding and fabrication but it still feels like I lost my identity. I was supposed to be a marine and I lost what made me myself.
He looks like marcel from the originals😂
Attmanwart omg he actually does lmao XD
An article 15 is nonjudicial punishment. It is administered by hour commanding officer. You give him your side and usually your First Sgt gives the government's side. The punishment is limited by your rank and the commanders rank. If they really want to burn you they have your 2nd or higher level give the article 15. If you decline a article 15 they will convene a summary courts martial which is a officer listening to the two sides. The punishment is about the same, but it's a felony conviction.
So can you go to jail for popin hot if you ate and “edible” without knowing ?
@@stevenhierro4729 oh yes. Everyone that fails a pee test claims they didn't know how it happened. It never gets them off! You can also go to jail for being late to work.
@@terrydouglas5008 that’s crazy, jail it’s not 100% thou is just a possibility? Most likely they’ll be adm sep out ?
@@stevenhierro4729 there is a wide range of punishments available. From a verbal reprimand to serious jail time. In my 25 years I saw the whole range. A person might be offered an article 15 and refuses, then a summary courts, you can refuse that too, then they will go to special court martial. Their not dropping the matter. The punishment then is serious and there is a 95% conviction rate at court martial. Young soldiers/ airmen just don't think they will take it that far. I have seen a court martial for not wearing a hat, not getting a haircut, being late, over sleeping, sleeping at work, etc.
@@terrydouglas5008 sheesh in that case they should just accept article 15
Shorty just laughing at Nigga the whole video then continues to say “it’s not funny y’all.” Crazyyy
You got to be careful who you pick friends to be with. We had a four day weekend one time and we headed to Texas from Ft. Riley, Ks. and we had gone to a party. We had not submitted leave or requested to go past the mileage distance allowed. One of my friends who was a communications specialist, ended up doing cocaine which at the time I didn’t know he had done. Come Tuesday we had a UA to do and he tried everything to clean his system. At the end he got booted because he carried at security clearance. He lost everything like your friend their. But I was interrogated about his use and if I used drugs.
This exactly why I don't do drugs. Not throwing my career away just for some weed, cocaine, ect... People always trynna hustle the system. Wish you the best man.
Just weed homie
Smokin BIG OL' DOINKS
y she hatin on bru he did a good 3 billion intros at the end lmaooo
How long did it take for the drug test to come back
I mean, there’s worse that could have happened to this guy. I have been in the Air Force for 9 years and have seen (depending on military judge) people get a slap on the wrist and reduced in rank *but not kicked out* and on the flip end I have seen people get reduced all the way down to E1 - confined in a military brig for 10 months and THEN once you’re out of jail you get kicked out 😂 the military isn’t fair. It was never meant to be
@Never lose sleep over the small stuff Im assuming navy then? You guys operate a bit differently than the Air Force.. At least from what I can tell with my experience in the AF. I agree with you on what you have said though, its all subject to who your case gets seen by.. If youre lucky to only get non-judicial punishment from your direct command thats much better than a court martial is but sometimes Non-judicial punishment is just a slower end to your career if you are reduced in rank.. I saw one guy that had 17 years in as an E-6 and he got in trouble for inappropriate relations with a subordinate (E-3 chick) and command got word of it - they did a full on investigation and afterwards the commander decided to just give him an Article 15, reduce him in rank from E6 down to E-5 and that was the kiss of death for this guy. He immediately High year tenured at that rank was no longer eligible for re-enlistment or even allowed to join the reserves with a bad record. lol. That commander was smart.. he knew what he could do to solve a problem, much faster than a Court martial would have been as well. RIP that guys retirement lol
@sts what is the process? Tested positives of weed, took a seminar for people who’s under investigation and who’s getting kicked out, and rank down from e-3 to e-2. We haven’t heard from anyone yet. And , was refused an appeal
I seen a video where they got to leave infantry training for a day on Thanksgiving or something n one guy took off n did hella Coke and came back the next day 😂😂
Don’t smoke proceeds to hit a juul😂
Troydale ELLIS this comment is funny asf😂
lol
Explain how he still getting benefits , i failed a pt test and they trying to give me general discharge & have no benefits?
If you have done more than one contract you get all your benefits even if you get kicked out for anything.. so I’m guessing he’s re-enlisted at some point in his career and the benefits come from that first contract
General discharges you keep everything but the GI bill
Why do people feel bad for him? Dude did it to himself. A grown man knowing he's doing something that's going to get him kicked out. Actions have consequences.
Trudrew Roach agreed
You are correct
Relax typer we are all flawed who is anyone to pull the moral card.. he’s probably a good guy... i’m pretty sure he understands he fucked up lol
you’re right, not like anyone should “feel bad” for anyone.. everyone has they’re own problems to deal with. butt it’s not the end of his life either, people that think that live life wayy too stiff.. not everything goes as planned.. shit happens... he’s still a soldier in my eyes
You can always tell who the jealous men are in the room...no one must of felt bad for you before in life so you mad at others who get it huh?
I got an OTH and don’t get shit from the VA. I popped on a piss test back in 06.
How long did your process take getting out the army?
That's what I'm wondering
When i was in the Army someone that i know got busted for PCP. He was 17 years old, 18 perhaps. He ended up getting a Field Grade Article 15 and was happy to get that. It's a good thing that we had a Lt.Col. that had no desire to destroy a kids life forever because at that age he really didn't understand the gravity of the situation. Fortunately for him, The Colonel did understand.
That Lt.Col has a good heart❤.
@jkl8718
Lieutenant Colonel Felter. That was his name. The last I heard of him he was getting ready to be promoted to a full bird Colonel. I hope he made it to the rank of General, because he certainly deserved it.
Does this affect your civilian career path? Like trying to get a good job?
Amere Thomas depends on which discharge you get but in the case no.
@@itspennyduh he can’t be a cop, fbi etc. - MP
@@JcLazy1 that’s not true
Why did he do it , if the military is Zero tolerance .
He did it because he didn't have the personal motivation and direction to be a real soldier, its just an easy out for the lazy and inept these days.
Funny how they let alcohol in the army and it causes liver failure etc and marijuana is looked at like this smfh
Because for a lot of us the military is a shithole. I'm stationed at Fort Bliss Tx and I swear to god if they ever said to me "you can leave the army right now with no issues", I'd be outta here so fuckin fast.
@@Girthtacious your dumb
@@RyanSteele92 You're
Keep ya head up bra!
Man I got caught with roaches in my car from a year ago a couple months ago . Got arrested and they charged me with felony drug possession . Recently I popped positive on a drug test . Now they bouta kick me out.
Are you active or reserves
So do you get paid while waiting the 3-6months waiting to get out?
We got a similar story 😭😭
Fayetteville is a tough area. Drugs are always there and you have alot of Soldiers that come from the area.
James Conover I agree
Yea I’m from Fayetteville and I most def agree
Awwwww 🥺 All That Hard Work, Sorry Guy. Keep Yo Head Up And Be Great 💯
Sorry the rules be in effect since the 1980s. At some point you have to choose, your career, or the drugs.
Lol my guy 😭 you shoudda just took leave for a month or some mannnn I feel bad lol have a good one tho best of luck
Being a veteran is dope af, gi benefits and tons of work opportunity.
Not if you get tossed... Guys a future 10 time loser.... Not suprising though. Look at him...
AlanH82 wtf does that even mean
AlanH82 wow...
@@alanh8212 no hes not you dumbass. He got general discharge under honorable conditions hes fine. You even serve?
@@alanh8212 dude is solid af ik you couldnt say that to his face. Youd get corrected rq.
Alicia!! GIVE ME THEM DAMN KEYS!! But sis I don’t wanna blow your stuff up but I wanna join but I’m scared 🥺
damn bro i got kicked out of parris island for a failed drug test for weed too lmfao i wanna go back tho and earn the title marine
You will bounce back...
They both blazed rn fam
Probably
General sounds about right
Can you get back in the military after two years of getting out if you smoked ?
@@BV1180 so it’s really over with ? :/
I need a update on this man 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
He’s fine living his civilian life
@@itspennyduh was it easy for him to get a job?
OTH, just don't write it on your applications that you were in the military. I was only in for a year, and I was only 19.
Is there an appeals process?
Hey, you made a dumb decision. You're human, we all make mistakes. I've done shit I'm not proud of too. You can dwell on it or you can learn from it. Not much else to it. All there is to it.
In the navy you get extra duty and you can’t leave the ship which we call “restrictions”. Can he still have his phone and shit?
I was in the navy from 84-89 and drug use was crazy. Meth and cocaine was everywhere on base. I experimented during the time I was in but a soon as I got out I never did it again. I was never a smoker and weed wasn’t as popular as it is now. Ppl would be obviously tweeking but it was kinda accepted.
But weed isn’t as harmful as cocaine or meth so how does that make sense.
I really wish I could live in the era you were born.
So basically.... I can join the armed forces. Get a bag.. then fail a pissed test? And I’m free for life?
Pretty much
okay so how long did his test come back from the lab? mines taking over a month and i havent heard anything, is that normal?
Any update
@@JohnSmith-yr6je nope, nothing.
Takes 3 months usuallt
He could fight it if it's a first-time offense. Or get out and change your discharge to honorable.
Are you sure you’re getting you GI Bill with a General Discharge?
You dont get the gi bill he wrong about that look it up but you get your va benefits in my opinion the only thing that matters
damn this me rn also 3 years in shit happens but yea life goes on...
Shit is crazy bro I hope everything turns out good for you 💯🙏
Do you get paid waiting the 3-6 months of waiting in seperation?
I would have smoked a lot sooner if I knew how small of a penalty it was. Make more money working a no skill factory job with 10-15 less hours of work per week than if you were an E-3. Just no free college, it's a fair trade off.
exactly!!!
Did you do it yet
Crazy thing is I watched this and end up getting separated the same way. SMH
I went through the same thing. 😭 Shit sucksss
Did you lawyer up? What reason did you give the commander for popin positive ?
@@stevenhierro4729 I was never given a opportunity to speak about it. A few people in my unit tested positive as well and they said they weren’t going to use it against any of us. But once I wanted to get out from DV against me and I was also pregnant while dealing with that they tried to talk me into staying in and once I still rejected they used it against me.
@@MamaAsia okay I see so majority of the time they don’t ask why the just chose your punishment?
@@stevenhierro4729 well in my case yes. I think it was just bad leadership in my unit and probably in my duty station as well. Because I know a lot of people that I was stationed with that talked negatively especially on my unit
6 year contract with no bonuses or anything. He was probably a 25B 😅
Wait how did he keep his gi bill?
Always keep a certo
Stay up fam!
Other Than Honorable (OTH)
An OTH is a form of administrative discharge. ... Generally, in order to receive VA benefits and services, the Veteran's character of discharge or service must be under "other than dishonorable" conditions (e.g., honorable, under honorable conditions, general) as stated by VA policy.
What type of discharge did you get
Did he just pop hot once and they put him out??? I’m going through the same thing right now but I think they bullshittin me. I know a lot of people that got a second chance...
Going thru this right now... does anyone have any info If I can still get a career in the medical field after receiving a general discharge?? Will it pop up on a background check or something??? Figured I just wouldn't even bring up my military history hahaha let me know if anyone knows anything please
Me too. I’m so disappointed in myself but all you can do is live and learn. But yeah I’m pretty sure it comes up on a background check saying what kind of discharge
@@romansautodetails no it doesn’t pop up
Only if you tell them
It definitely pops up on a level 2 background check
Sorry this happened to you. But you seem to be taking it in stride. Describe how often you smoked please. You did mention alot. You can get away with it from time to time but if you do it regularly its like you stated that its not a matter of if its a matter of when