MrBNARick that track is owned by Southern California Regional Rail Association, otherwise known as Metrolink. Metro Rail is a separate organization that provides light rail service in the LA area.
@@mortensen1961 I never knew that. I had thought it was AT&SF trackage. My mistake - thanks for the correction! It being PE track does make a lot of sense.
I remember riding a bike path that ended up going between the freeway like that. Can’t remember where in California I was riding, scared the crap out of me for a moment because I thought it was about to merge me into traffic.
Metrolink (regional commuter rail in Southern California) and Metro Rail (subway/light rail in Los Angeles County) are two different systems. I have no connection to either. I just take my username after the closest rail line to where I live. You must be one of THOSE RUclips users who just troll the comments just to put people down because you have nothing else to do, huh?
metroredline Ok. l made an honest mistake. If you're a train enthusiast then your name has a meaning that was not apparent to me. Sorry. I really don't think l was putting you down by pointing out the exorbitant cost to the taxpaying public. I'll delete my comment if you like.
That engine made a record speed run of 101.3miles / hr. Or about 162km/hr which is faster than most of the diesel passenger trains. And way faster than metro. At the end of steam era .. these locos were pulling past 120miles / hr..
@@antonbruce1241 3751 just finished her 15 year tear apart update inspection and rebuilding/repairs! When covid-19 restrictions are lifted you can bet that were going to see the"51" back in service and hopefully sooner than later a double heading with kid sister Santa Fe 2926 in New Mexico/Albuquerque 😁.
I've been saying that needs to be done for years. Most of the freeways have a median down the middle, put electric commuter trains there and cut down traffic. I might put a more substantial barrier between the cars and tracks though. I had to take the bus a few years ago while my car was broke. What takes 20 minutes by car took two hours by bus with a swap in the middle. That's why they are mostly empty.
This line originally was the Pacific Electric line that went from Los Angeles, to San Bernardino. It was built in the early 1900’s. The Southern Pacific used this after its acquisition of PE in the late 1940’s I believe. The tracks remained there when the freeway opened in 1951. The line was used for freight service after PE shut the line down for trolley service. Over the years they added lanes which diminished the distance from the tracks considerably. Cool video.
Chicago and Washington DC and Atlanta we have subway lines running down the median, but nowhere do we have parts of the national rail network doing that....so this is kind of a special sight.
I was raised in Whittier, worked in El Monte, where this section of the old Pacific Electric/Southern Pacific branched off of the freeway, so I was quite familiar with it . . .
"Its lacking the billowing smoke" Oh it must have had its fuel converted "The reason is the fireman is firing the engine efficiently" Oh wow that's amazing "Also its fuel was converted" ...
Oh, my gosh! There is so much that in this video. I love the engine and the fact that there is a train running down the middle of a highway. A very entertaining video. I appreciate that you gave such a descriptive narration. Thanks for sharing.
One other reason no smoke-east bound is on a down hill where very little power is needed. But-you're correct that they are very careful about smoke on the 3751. Originally, I-10 was much narrower when built. I has been widened over the years-hence closer to the tracks.
Also: the railroad long predates the freeway. They didn't build the freeway with the idea of adding a track down the middle, they wanted to build a freeway and probably saw that there was a fair amount of unused right away available parallel to that line. So it's not an example of smart planning, rather: simple convenience. There is also an old freight line in Anaheim which parallels I-5 (off to the side), and then detours to run down the middle of a local street for a few blocks. As with the I-10 line, that one too long predates the freeway.
I mean, in reality there's about 12 feet of physical horizontal separation between the cars in the left lane and the train itself. But I guess 6 is close enough, right?
As those had conducted research when it was common to put down a rail line in the middle of a highway median or a freeway along with the main street of a small town when a track was laid in the middle of the I-10 when the only separation was no-posts between the lanes of traffic and the line when ATSF 3751 made an excursion.
You also have to remember...those rails were laid in the very early 1900's - LONG before someone ever thought of a "freeway". They basically built the freeway around the tracks.
*★★★ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIDEO ★★★* *1) There are a lot of trains in America that run down main streets & freeways* - Yes I read America has a lot of places like this with trains running down the middle of main streets & freeways etc, even came across some footage of a freight train running down the middle of a main street of what looked like a small town. but this footage really stood out and said do a story on me. *2) Reasons why the train hardly has any smoke* - One other reason no smoke, The train track east bound is on a down hill where very little power is needed. But-you're correct that they are very careful about smoke on the 3751 (Thanks Tom Christman) *3) It is a steam "locomotive", not "train"* - I know you are right but from a lamens point of view, when you look at a whole train you say it's a train, such as look at that steam train, but yes the engine is the Steam Locomotive, not Steam Train. *4) Perth, Australia has a train running down freeway like this* - I was not aware of that at the time I wrote the script + I had never seen it or heard about it, as Perth is one of the most remote cities on the planets, but I saw some youtube footage, as it's not really the same thing as it appear to have a much wider gap between the track and cars. *5) Two engines to transport 3 coaches!!* - many people seem to have answers for this, but I think it was only pulling 3 coaches because it is not a daily run train, it was a (promotional / exhibition) run. *6) I have never seen that train on that stretch of track before* - That stretch of track is not normally used by anything but commuter rail traffic it is owned by Metro rail. This train was a special trip.(Thanks MrBNARick) *7) The Train Track was their before the Freeway* - The reason the train runs down the Freeway is the Track was there long before the Interstate probably since the early 1900's like around WWI. The Freeway was built around it. I tried googling information on this stretch of interstate and could not find this information. (Thank you gnrdude for the info) *8) Forgive me for getting some facts & terms wrong* - I made this story to talk about a train going down the middle of a freeway, which I personally have never seen before, I thought it was something special. I called the train a Steam Train (as a lamen) not Steam Locomotive, I did not mention Perth Australia had a train like this (I did not know about and I live in Australia). I did not know the train track in the footage was on a downhill slope hence why so little smoke. so many things I may have gotten wrong in the eyes of Train Enthusiasts. *9) Google maps location of area in video* - www.google.com/maps/@34.0723379,-118.140357,16z it is dawning on me now how devoted you guys are to trains and how much you know about this stuff, I honestly do not know much at all, I just thought it was a cool story, I hope you still enjoyed it.
You might find it interesting that in Toronto a section of the Spadina subway runs in between the directions of a road called Allen road, which is a lot like a limited access freeway.
Sure you got some terminology wrong, but you made a great video. Don't be too hard on yourself, people are just correcting you for the sake of reliable information in the future. :)
Yeah I am fine with that, I find a story I research it, but I am not going to learn all of the terminology & history for a short story, but i do my best. Hence why i started adding FAQ for anything I missed or got wrong.
Yes very cool. Great vid. Ignore those who only criticize. We have tracks in the middle of a tollway here, meh. Only see freight, and, as you said, not as close to the autos. I would love to see a steamer run it.
Other spots are the Spring Garden station on the Market-Frankford Line (smack in the middle of I95) The Chicago L’s Red Line south of the Loop (the Dan Ryan branch, in the middle of I90/I94) and the Blue line in multiple areas.
I love seeing steam engines run super efficiently like this, while steam and smoke is cool and all, seeing one operate at it's peak operational potential is just awesome to see
Cool video! My friend said he saw something similar. Also btw other rapid transit/commuter trains do indeed run through the median of the freeway, an example being the Red and Blue lines of the Chicago L system.
I live in Los Angeles. That train track is part of the MetroLink commuter rail service from LA's Union Station to San Bernardino and usually, you only see diesel locomotives that belong to MetroLink on that track, but occasionally, trackage rights are allowed to get locomotives like this from one place to another.
i rode this train on a special excursion from L.A. to Williams, AZ. back in '02... it was a great ride & one of the last things i did with my dad before he passed away..
magnificent - every bit as fantastic as the first shuttle launch or the Saturn V - certainly a pinnacle of human mind creation and steel, this simple & perfect video correctly places all of that in it's rightful perspective.
It's Emmett Lathrop "Doc" Brown and Carla with his Fandom powered time machine! They must be headed to meet up with Marty to fix the flux capacitor in the DeLorean.
You are very correct about the appearance of very little smoke. My grandfather was an engineer for the C&O . He always told me that when you see a steam engine pouring out a lot of black and grey smoke, that the fireman and engineer basically didn't know what they were doing. He said the only time you should see any measurable amount of grey ,not black smoke is during a big transition in the grade, or when you are blowing out the tubing. Getting rid of cinder and suet buildup. The diesel engine behind the steamer is there basically for only one purpose, in this configuration. That's if the steamer breaks down. All of the larger steam locomotives have an electric generator, and with it only pulling 7 or 8 cars ,you should never need a dynamic brake. Great video. That is a neat experience. I'm not exactly sure, but I don't think metrolink purchases dynamic brake units on any of their locomotives.
Gene Hall, short trains need braking on the locomotive more than long trains do. On long trains the head end loco brakes aren't used. Only the cars' brakes are used. It keeps the train stretched out.
My Uncle was hired by AT&SF back in the early 1930's and the days of steam was all he talked about. He retired about 1977. I wonder what year that locomotive was built?
By the way, thanks for a cool video of a steam train. Yes, _train_. It was a train, and it was a steam engine pulling it so it was a steam train. And you do put a lot of work into keeping this up to date with the FAQ and all. Thumbs up!
There are at least three kinds of diesel fueled locomotive engines: Direct drive (very rare as I understand it). diesel electric (the most common modern diesel engine) steam locomotives using diesel fuel. Steam engines (stationary or moving) are external combustion engines, where heat is applied to a water tank, creating steam that drives the pistons that create motion. Diesel engines are internal combustion engines, where the fuel is burned inside the cylinder. The distinction between external and internal combustion is the major key to what kind of engine it is, the fuel is of less importance.
This is right near my house (Alhambra/Rosemead). This rail line used to be part of the old trolley system. During that time the rail line ran in between a four lane highway (two lanes each way). The freeway was an enlargement of the highway that previously existed.
Wish we still had the trolleys -- at least then the weirdly-tilted roads/humps all through Alhambra/San Gabriel would have a purpose, and not just serve as ramps for dinguses blowing through the lights.
That's cool! If you're out west you can go to Durango CO. The D&SNG is there. Authentic late 19th century train. It'll take you up to Silverton. I've ridden it. Burned cinders in the hair and everything. Amazing scenery. I'd LOVE to be on a highway and have one of these pull up next to me like that.
It is so cool to see a steam train in the middle of highway,. I am a Chinese, when I was a kid, there was a narrow gauge railway right in the center of the main road in the city, the best part was a steam locomotive hauling some coal carts pass the gate of local police department. This scene has gone for 15 years and I miss it so much.
Black smoke means the fireman could do better, but many crews will smoke the engine on purpose for the camera because it looks impressive. Makes me want to hit the fireman with the shovel too for giving the engines a reputation for pollution. White smoke is not really smoke- its exhaust steam, cooling off and condensing as it leaves the engine. This is a good thing to see, because it means so much of the energy in the fuel made it into the locomotive that the exhaust gas is cold when it comes out. I usually fire coal, and when I do I aim for a faint haze of black so that I know I am not injuring the boiler by giving it excess air. With a few exceptions, I can usually keep the engine burning hot and efficient so that as much of the energy in the coal is captured by the boiler as possible.
It’s a awesome stretch of rail!!! I grew up in Cheyenne Wyoming even abated asbestos from a steam locomotive long ago in the Cheyenne UP Roundhouse ,yes my family has a history of rail! My Beloved Brother in Law ,William” Bill “ Riley operated UPRR 8444 long before he received posthumously the rare and prestigious Golden Spike Award..which sits at Bailey Yard in the Golden Spike Museum, North Platte Nebraska! I live in California now and have driven this stretch of Freeway! The Grapevine is pretty cool to for rail fans! Happy Rails To You, Until We Meet Again!! The Wild Wild West! Live The Legend! Cheyenne! Sherman Pass! Ames Monument! Tie Siding...don’t get me going on about the UP Creasote ponds we where sent in for chemical remediation! It was a incredible project that again changed with the times! The WyoColo rail out of Laramie was awesome too ,long gone!
"Use the CC to translate from British to American." heh? I know Americans spell words differently to English words, but other than it's the same thing.
English is english...fuck sakes. As an American, our “English” may be modernized, but it’s still English. We spell “ise” spellings with Z to form “ize” and we don’t use “colour” we use “color”. really there’s not much difference.
@@WonderWorldYTC As Mark Twain said: It is no longer correct to speak of the Queen's English; the property had become a common stock organization, and we Americans own the majority of the shares.
A little correction that many (even die-hard train enthusiasts) get wrong is the reason the diesel locomotive is there actually isn't because the steam locomotive can't run without it, or because they are worried about it breaking down. It's actually because most modern rail lines use GPS and other more modern technologies to determine the location of the trains, switch the tracks and flip the signals accordingly. However because steam locomotives don't have GPS or even a source of electrical power to run a GPS they are effectively invisible to the rail networks, and can't trigger the rail signals, which can create major issues when running the steam trains, especially through areas that have lots of rail traffic. So a simple solution around this is to just attach a train that does have those features to the steam locomotive so the rail network can see the train just fine. In the Summer of 2024 the BIG BOY another steam locomotive (not this one) became the first steam locomotive ever to be upgraded to be able to use satellite and GPS navigation. In order to make the train work it was upgraded with a small piston system that converts some of the train's steam into electrical power that feeds electricity into batteries that run the train's computer and navigation system. As a result in July 2024, the Big Boy went from Wyoming to Califonia and back without a diesel locomotive on its back. With the success of the Big Boy upgrade it's quite likely many trains including this one may receive upgrades in the future allowing them to run on modern rails without a diesel locomotive. Very cool video thanks for sharing!
Wonder World steam train video That was amazing! CHARMING! Excellent quirky subject, well told, merging of disparate ideas into a low key comfortable respite for a few moments! Thanks! I'm coming back for more!
My dad grew up in the prime steam locomotive era (early 1900's) and told me those pictures with huge plumes of black smoke coming out of them were mostly for show. He said that a coal fired, and later, the oil fired steam locomotives, wouldn't make hardly any smoke if they were running "just right." Smoke was a sign of wasted fuel and effort. A steam locomotive on a expressway does make a unique sight.
Your father knew his business. If I remember correctly, the fireman would try to keep the smoke a very light grey, as black smoke indicates too much fuel and a cold fire, whereas no smoke at all means the fire is burning too hot and too fast, which is again, a waste of fuel.
@@jeredhersh789 Almost forgot I made this comment. My dad was from mining country in northern Minnesota, so was very familiar with railroad activity of that area/era. Plus, he worked for the Great Northern RR on summer break from university (construction/maintenance.. not trains). He had many interesting stories - railroad & others!! - to tell. And now that I'm an old man I've lots boring stories to tell about the good old days!!
For all the thomas fans,this is a tender engine,thomas was a tank engine,there are literally hundreds of steam engine types,every steam engine is not thomas.Call it Henry or Gordon for example.
You're so wrong the modern diesel locomotive can go months without being touched but a steam engine needed maintenance Everytime it came in from a run How do I know this well I'm a locomotive engineer with 39 yrs of experience and when I was younger I worked with my father on a lot of different steam engines like the 614 ,587 rode thee American Freedom train plus many other steam trains.
Rodney Sunderland You're correct. And too gotta keep the Wheels very maintained oiled if you get what I'm saying. That's 1 of the most critical parts of the train.
Rodney Sunderland frequent maintenance is exactly what makes that old girl reliable, doesn't really matter the vehicle, its never any better than its maintenance regimen, in my opinion anyway :-)
While they may be considerably mechanically simpler, steam locomotives consume huge amounts of lubricant oil to keep things going smoothly. Locomotives prior to the 1940's typically use fluid bearings, instead of roller bearings. These bearings leak oil, and every hundred or so miles, they have to be topped up with new oil or they'll run dry. The N&W J class was revolutionary in its heavy use of roller bearings, and French engineer Andre Chapelon made special note of converting every single bearing on the SNCF locomotives he redesigned to roller bearings. Steam locomotives needed much more maintenance that modern diesels, partly down to their age, but most of it was designed in, and only alleviated in very late locomotive designs. Every day the firebox needs cleaning, the smokebox needs to be emptied of ashes, the firetubes swept with a brush as long as the boiler of the locomotive. Very hot, sweaty, and cumbersome work.
Actually.. they are looking at what it would take to get locomotives off of Oil. One designer is thinking about automated coke (refined coal), that is cleaner than diesel. At higher speed (above 40mph), Steam Engines are more energy efficient than diesel. The biggest issue is reliability of high pressure water vessels.
Like hook car transporters so commuters can ride the rail and make better time. Or let people whose cars have aftermarket rail wheel add ons enter the hov/rail lane and set their car on cruise for an autosteer experience.
This is a former Pacific Electric Interurban (tram line) and I-10 used to be a much smaller road, hence why the rail line was down the middle. Now the PE line is a mainline and the dual carriageway road is now I-10. Fuel oil can out out just as much smoke, either overfiring (Hollywood always did that with No 3 (BTF III, Petticoat Jct, etc), or by sanding the flues. The car on the end is the CARITAS and it has an open back Vestibule, or back porch. It is possible to stand on it out in the open as the train travels along the interstate.
We have a couple of freeways out here like that. The tracks on the I-210 have been converted to light rail transit, the I-10 is still heavy rail, and on I-5 going to San Diego there is a section where the train runs center of the highway as well. Frankly someone once said we should have built them all like that. And I agree. It's efficient use of space, but many rail lines were all ready in place before the highway system was built.
Have you ever been to perth Australia? we have 2 high speed lines that runs within the freeway median for 110km at speeds of up to 130km/h do some research
[Driving along] "wow that train is so awesome it's just 6 feet away from my car look at it go I can't beliv**SMASH!!!!!** ....... [Not drving along anymore] "Wow that stopped traffic I just rear ended really came out of nowhere!"
Diesel-electric and electric locomotives are geared for maximum speeds that they must not exceed even coasting downgrade as the electric driving motors will be wrecked by excessive speed. The same diesel or electric locomotive that is geared for 90 mph max can be geared for 120 mph max. It then cannot pull with as much force. Rod steam locomotives likewise have maximum allowable speeds. A reciprocating mass (piston, piston rod, crosshead, main rod) cannot be perfectly balanced with a rotating mass (counterweight). Too much speed and the main driver will lift from the rail and slam down, denting the rail, possibly breaking the driver tire. A general rule is that the diameter of the driving wheels in inches +10% is the maximum permitted speed. 50" driver: 55 mph; 70" driver: 80 (77) mph; 80" driver: 90 (88) mph.
wonder world just north of woodland,Washington these the BNSF SEATTLE SUB DOWN MIDDLE OF I5 BNSF UNION PACIFIC RR'S AMTRAK TALGO TRAINS COAST STARLIGHT AMAZING RIGHT can you do of this rail line down middle i5 ?
it was look at footage at 0:30 onwards those cars keeping pace with the train have their hazard lights on, maybe to look at the train, maybe to film the train, but clearly because of the train.
Not true. Rail in the US is mostly used for freight, which is one of the best freight systems in the world. However, commercial rail is very inefficient, that I do agree with.
Not, Even, Close. Just because North American(let's not leave Canada out on this, we basically have the exact same railway network but north of the 49th parallel.) Railroads in the US were constructed, and continue to be used, as long-distance freight and heavy passenger hauling. It's really easy to shit all over American railroads when you just look at speed, when you guys over in Europe are hauling millions of tons of freight, across an entire continent faster than we are, then you can talk to me about being more effecient. Trains in Europe are basically glorified busses, the distances you travel are so short, you don't need powerful locomotives or long trains, of course a train from Paris to Berlin only takes a few minutes while a train from Chicago to LA takes two days, there is a difference of several thousand miles.
The Arctic Gamer - European railroads are heavily subsidized by the governments. Most USA RRs are operated as businesses that are expected to turn a profit. Amtrak is not a railroad except for some routes in the northeast corridor. Amtrak trains run on the tracks of (freight) railroads.
Even in the northeast corridor, NS still operates most of the lines for freight service occasionally. That's another good point, America doesn't even really have a "rail network" the railroads here were built by businesses or by very ambitious and wealthy individuals, it's not like Europe where the vast majority of the rail lines were built, and continue to be operated by the government. A Union Pacific train can't just take a manifest to Miami, they can only operate on their own tracks that they either built or purchased, or in some cases(like in the Mojave Desert) have trackage rights on other railroads, therefore UP would have to transfer the train to NS, which would take it south and transfer it to CSX who would then take it to Miami. American rail systems vary widely in quality too, for example Southern Pacific prided itself on keeping their rails well maintained, meanwhile Penn Central trains over in the east looked like they had parkinson's, you try running a train at 120mph on tracks that haven't been repaired in 35 years, see how that goes.
You need glasses kid if you think this Santa Fe Class locomotive is Thomas. Thomas is an E2 Tank engine. This train is literally a tender engine you stupid fuck.
Just a bit more of insight to this portion of the line that runs down the middle of the I-10: As already established, and is usually the case, the tracks were there first. It was part of the Los Angeles interurban trolley system called the Pacific Electric, with this being their San Bernardino line, which ran between LA and San Bernardino to the east, and completed around 1914. Between 1933 to 1935, an express thoroughfare called Ramona Boulevard (or the Ramona Parkway) was constructed alongside a portion of this line to serve road traffic for the eastern Los Angeles communities in the San Gabriel valley (the area you see in the video). This thoroughfare became one of the precursors to the modern freeway system in LA. In 1941, the Pacific Electric closed operations on the line, and the overhead power lines were torn down, as demand for road traffic increased and ridership decreased. The Pacific Electric was absorbed into the Southern Pacific railroad, and the track within the freeway portion was used as a secondary line to the Southern Pacific's main transcontinental line the "Sunset Route," running freight trains. Overtime, the Ramona Parkway grew wider, slowly encroaching over the rail line's right of way, and became the modern freeway with the narrow space for tracks we see today. In the early 90's, the Southern California Regional Rail Authority (SCAA, aka Metrolink) bought the line, and between 1992 to 1993, established the Metrolink commuter train service between Los Angeles and San Bernardino we see today. Here's a picture of what it looked like in 1970 -- There's a better picture from the 1950's that I annoyingly can't find at the moment: i.pinimg.com/736x/52/00/98/520098e09a041aef1a932f9284909811--long-beach-mustang.jpg In the background of the last picture, you can see a curve in the track. Here is that same curve taken from the opposite direction at an earlier date, when the trolley cars were still active: www.pacificelectric.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AW-PERY-Car-1210-Valley-Jct.jpg And here's a blog article about the history of the Ramona Parkway, since you mentioned that you could not find information on this stretch of interstate: losangelespast.blogspot.com/2010/12/ramona-boulevard-las-first-expressway.html I hope you find this tidbit of historical information interesting, as I know you have already found interest in the footage enough to do a video article about it. Have a wonderful day!
There is a passenger rail line like this one right in the middle of I-25 in central NM just south of Santa Fe. Currently, there are no steam trains on the line, but AT&SF 2926 was just restored and is being readied for service, so stay tuned!
Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe 3751 is a class 3751 4-8-4 "Northern" type steam locomotive built in May 1927 by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in Eddystone (Philadelphia), Pennsylvania for the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railway (ATSF). No. 3751 was the first 4-8-4 steam locomotive built for the Santa Fe and was referenced in documentation as type: "Heavy Mountain", "New Mountain", or "Mountain 4-wheel trailer". No. 3751 served in passenger duties until being retired in 1953. The locomotive was then placed on display in San Bernardino until it was restored to operating condition in 1991. It is currently located in the Central City East neighborhood of Los Angeles and has been listed on the National Register of Historic Places since 2000. It holds the distinction of being the oldest surviving 4-8-4 type steam locomotive in the world. The locomotive is currently owned and operated by the San Bernardino Railroad Historical Society, which uses the locomotive to haul occasional mainline excursion trains. However, a federally mandated 15-year inspection put it out of service for three to four years. No. 3751's overhaul was completed in September 2022, and it returned to service that month.
A had a great uncle that was a steam engineer on the ATSF line. The last steam train he ran is now on display at the Texas railroad museum in Temple, Texas. When I was a boy, Uncle Pike told me that he could get her up to 110 mph.
The 210 freeway (which is paralel to I-10 and about 5 miles to the north) also has a rail line running down the median for several miles. This track used to be the Santa Fe main line out of LA through Pasadena but it was closed in the 90s and now hosts the Gold Line light rail service.
That is the State Street line of the old Southern Pacific RR. It starts in East LA and exits in El Monte. As a former engineer on the SP i have taken many freight trains on this track. It was especially fun during rush hour passing all the cars in bumper to bumper traffic and waving to the pissed off commuters!
You should come to Brno, Czech Republic for the next industrial fair. Each year a steam train is dispatched from Prague straight to the fair grounds. The final approach (two or three kilometers, if I recall correctly) is through the streets, crossing tram tracks. Not going next to a road, going dead center a major roadway.
Steam locomotives were quite literally the closest we've ever come to building a "living" machine. They could be said to eat and drink, they expended the energy from doing so, they very audibly breathed, even the whistle, powered by it's own steam and air, could be described as a mechanical facsimile to a natural voice. They couldn't do any of these things without man's direction, but they're the only thing we've ever made that DOES do them.
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That stretch of track is not normally used by anything but commuter rail traffic it is owned by Metro rail. This train was a special trip.
MrBNARick that track is owned by Southern California Regional Rail Association, otherwise known as Metrolink. Metro Rail is a separate organization that provides light rail service in the LA area.
Ah, but many years ago, that WAS AT&SF trackage! It was "bought" (basically, seized) by SCRRA/Metrolink for the use of Metrolink commuter trains.
@@antonbruce1241: Actually, it is ex-Pacific Electric trackage, part of their original L.A.-San Bernardino line.
@@mortensen1961 I never knew that. I had thought it was AT&SF trackage. My mistake - thanks for the correction! It being PE track does make a lot of sense.
I remember riding a bike path that ended up going between the freeway like that. Can’t remember where in California I was riding, scared the crap out of me for a moment because I thought it was about to merge me into traffic.
The railroad line was actually there for many years before there was a freeway. When they built the freeway, they only slightly re-aligned the track.
metroredline The Metrolink system has an operating cost of $243 million per year but only $100 million in revenue.
Did I ask about Metrolink? The track was built by the Pacific Electric, later Southern Pacific Railroad.
metroredline this video is of the metro train that goes between LA and San Bernardino. Your name suggests a connection to the metro system.
Metrolink (regional commuter rail in Southern California) and Metro Rail (subway/light rail in Los Angeles County) are two different systems. I have no connection to either. I just take my username after the closest rail line to where I live. You must be one of THOSE RUclips users who just troll the comments just to put people down because you have nothing else to do, huh?
metroredline Ok. l made an honest mistake. If you're a train enthusiast then your name has a meaning that was not apparent to me. Sorry. I really don't think l was putting you down by pointing out the exorbitant cost to the taxpaying public. I'll delete my comment if you like.
that moment when a 93 year old steam engine beats your prius in a race.
That engine made a record speed run of 101.3miles / hr. Or about 162km/hr which is faster than most of the diesel passenger trains. And way faster than metro. At the end of steam era .. these locos were pulling past 120miles / hr..
We were on that stretch of the 10, a few years ago.
I had hoped to see her.
Maybe next time.
I that loco can't beat out a Prius...it REALLY needs to be overhauled!!!!
Well they are on a highway so
@@antonbruce1241 3751 just finished her 15 year tear apart update inspection and rebuilding/repairs! When covid-19 restrictions are lifted you can bet that were going to see the"51" back in service and hopefully sooner than later a double heading with kid sister Santa Fe 2926 in New Mexico/Albuquerque 😁.
Kids must be like: Daddy faster, faster! Train is gonna win.
Lol good one
I'll Use Audi R8 ETRON
With possibly the exception of an ocean liner, train always wins
Hell, I'd root for my truckdrivng dad to do that... and I'm a grown ass man! Ok, I'd just say dad.
In terms of land transportation - TRAIN ALWAYS WINS
I'm very glad that this was in my recommended. Brought back memories of my Polar Express train set as a kid
Wonder if u know polar express is real somewhere in Michigan the real name a is Pere Marqutte 1225
ME TO!
Funny, but the memories this brought to me as a kid was seeing the same locomotive featured in the kid's film "There Goes a Train."
@Axel Screws Around 1225 and PE are the same
@AXEL KAULBARS santa fe 3751 doesn't count
I've been saying that needs to be done for years. Most of the freeways have a median down the middle, put electric commuter trains there and cut down traffic. I might put a more substantial barrier between the cars and tracks though.
I had to take the bus a few years ago while my car was broke. What takes 20 minutes by car took two hours by bus with a swap in the middle. That's why they are mostly empty.
Nobody wants or will ride in the same space with other humans . Not the way they act today.
Looks like the traffic was enjoying the spectacle as well. Cars were moving slowly to take in the unusual sight of this steam engine. Nice.....
This line originally was the Pacific Electric line that went from Los Angeles, to San Bernardino. It was built in the early 1900’s. The Southern Pacific used this after its acquisition of PE in the late 1940’s I believe. The tracks remained there when the freeway opened in 1951. The line was used for freight service after PE shut the line down for trolley service. Over the years they added lanes which diminished the distance from the tracks considerably. Cool video.
Love this. I am rail fan especially engines. Steam engines are my favorite. Brings back the good old times. Thanks for sharing this.
I actually like how there's a relic driving down the free way (well chugging)
Jay Leno's steam cars can easily fit the context of this comment, and I like it.
Having lived in California for 23 years I had no idea that the fact our trains run down the middle of the highway was a spectacle.
Chicago and Washington DC and Atlanta we have subway lines running down the median, but nowhere do we have parts of the national rail network doing that....so this is kind of a special sight.
I was raised in Whittier, worked in El Monte, where this section of the old Pacific Electric/Southern Pacific branched off of the freeway, so I was quite familiar with it . . .
CTA runs L trains down the middle of 94 and 290
In the San Francisco bay we have the BART that runs down the middle of most of our highways
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"Its lacking the billowing smoke"
Oh it must have had its fuel converted
"The reason is the fireman is firing the engine efficiently"
Oh wow that's amazing
"Also its fuel was converted"
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Oh, my gosh! There is so much that in this video. I love the engine and the fact that there is a train running down the middle of a highway. A very entertaining video. I appreciate that you gave such a descriptive narration. Thanks for sharing.
Looks epic
Nicely shot! Seeing that huge black engine come charging up right next to your car…goosebumps!
One other reason no smoke-east bound is on a down hill where very little power is needed. But-you're correct that they are very careful about smoke on the 3751. Originally, I-10 was much narrower when built. I has been widened over the years-hence closer to the tracks.
Thanks for the extra info, I will pin that. :)
It should be a subway train not a locomotive
Also: the railroad long predates the freeway. They didn't build the freeway with the idea of adding a track down the middle, they wanted to build a freeway and probably saw that there was a fair amount of unused right away available parallel to that line. So it's not an example of smart planning, rather: simple convenience. There is also an old freight line in Anaheim which parallels I-5 (off to the side), and then detours to run down the middle of a local street for a few blocks. As with the I-10 line, that one too long predates the freeway.
Yes. It is a downgrade as they are heading east in the video.
Anon Nomas WTF are you talking about? This isn't a subway FFS.
That is quite a sight seeing a beautiful steam engine chugging down the freeway
“With six feet separating the cars from the train” *at least trains are social distancing*
also probably no-one wants to get covered in soot or grease
But They're not wearing masks!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!! {sarc off}
I mean, in reality there's about 12 feet of physical horizontal separation between the cars in the left lane and the train itself. But I guess 6 is close enough, right?
Holy cow, that is too cool! I would love to drive alongside that big steam loco at freeway speed!
Video was very informative! I have thought the diesel train was there to push the steam locomotive but now everything makes sense.
As those had conducted research when it was common to put down a rail line in the middle of a highway median or a freeway along with the main street of a small town when a track was laid in the middle of the I-10 when the only separation was no-posts between the lanes of traffic and the line when ATSF 3751 made an excursion.
You also have to remember...those rails were laid in the very early 1900's - LONG before someone ever thought of a "freeway". They basically built the freeway around the tracks.
*★★★ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIDEO ★★★*
*1) There are a lot of trains in America that run down main streets & freeways* - Yes I read America has a lot of places like this with trains running down the middle of main streets & freeways etc, even came across some footage of a freight train running down the middle of a main street of what looked like a small town. but this footage really stood out and said do a story on me.
*2) Reasons why the train hardly has any smoke* - One other reason no smoke, The train track east bound is on a down hill where very little power is needed. But-you're correct that they are very careful about smoke on the 3751 (Thanks Tom Christman)
*3) It is a steam "locomotive", not "train"* - I know you are right but from a lamens point of view, when you look at a whole train you say it's a train, such as look at that steam train, but yes the engine is the Steam Locomotive, not Steam Train.
*4) Perth, Australia has a train running down freeway like this* - I was not aware of that at the time I wrote the script + I had never seen it or heard about it, as Perth is one of the most remote cities on the planets, but I saw some youtube footage, as it's not really the same thing as it appear to have a much wider gap between the track and cars.
*5) Two engines to transport 3 coaches!!* - many people seem to have answers for this, but I think it was only pulling 3 coaches because it is not a daily run train, it was a (promotional / exhibition) run.
*6) I have never seen that train on that stretch of track before* - That stretch of track is not normally used by anything but commuter rail traffic it is owned by Metro rail. This train was a special trip.(Thanks MrBNARick)
*7) The Train Track was their before the Freeway* - The reason the train runs down the Freeway is the Track was there long before the Interstate probably since the early 1900's like around WWI. The Freeway was built around it. I tried googling information on this stretch of interstate and could not find this information. (Thank you gnrdude for the info)
*8) Forgive me for getting some facts & terms wrong* - I made this story to talk about a train going down the middle of a freeway, which I personally have never seen before, I thought it was something special. I called the train a Steam Train (as a lamen) not Steam Locomotive, I did not mention Perth Australia had a train like this (I did not know about and I live in Australia). I did not know the train track in the footage was on a downhill slope hence why so little smoke. so many things I may have gotten wrong in the eyes of Train Enthusiasts.
*9) Google maps location of area in video* - www.google.com/maps/@34.0723379,-118.140357,16z
it is dawning on me now how devoted you guys are to trains and how much you know about this stuff, I honestly do not know much at all, I just thought it was a cool story, I hope you still enjoyed it.
You might find it interesting that in Toronto a section of the Spadina subway runs in between the directions of a road called Allen road, which is a lot like a limited access freeway.
Sure you got some terminology wrong, but you made a great video. Don't be too hard on yourself, people are just correcting you for the sake of reliable information in the future. :)
Yeah I am fine with that, I find a story I research it, but I am not going to learn all of the terminology & history for a short story, but i do my best. Hence why i started adding FAQ for anything I missed or got wrong.
Subway trains travel along the I-90/I-94 in Chicago all the time
puxorb, wasn't it nice that no trolls took the time to call him insulting names?
Yes very cool. Great vid. Ignore those who only criticize. We have tracks in the middle of a tollway here, meh. Only see freight, and, as you said, not as close to the autos. I would love to see a steamer run it.
Beautiful train! and a good use for the median strip
This video just made my day, thank you so much my good sir for uploading this video..👍👍👍
you are welcome, I am quickly realizing the train community love their trains.
@@WonderWorldYTC no shiz sherlock
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3751 is a 4-8-4 Northern built in 1927 by the Baldwin Locomotive Works and retired in 1957.
Other spots are the Spring Garden station on the Market-Frankford Line (smack in the middle of I95)
The Chicago L’s Red Line south of the Loop (the Dan Ryan branch, in the middle of I90/I94) and the Blue line in multiple areas.
I love seeing steam engines run super efficiently like this, while steam and smoke is cool and all, seeing one operate at it's peak operational potential is just awesome to see
Cool video! My friend said he saw something similar. Also btw other rapid transit/commuter trains do indeed run through the median of the freeway, an example being the Red and Blue lines of the Chicago L system.
I live in Los Angeles. That train track is part of the MetroLink commuter rail service from LA's Union Station to San Bernardino and usually, you only see diesel locomotives that belong to MetroLink on that track, but occasionally, trackage rights are allowed to get locomotives like this from one place to another.
Very nice video. Great work!
Super grawesome video indeed! I totally agree.
I see what you did there.
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i rode this train on a special excursion from L.A. to Williams, AZ. back in '02... it was a great ride & one of the last things i did with my dad before he passed away..
This is so awesome!!!
This is grawesome!
THIS IS THE FUTURE!
This is definitely the future!
Coggler Angie yea these were the trains I liked as a kid.
IKR?
Very impressive, it must be a delight for the motorist's to be up close to a piece of history in action.
WE LOVE STEAM TRAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FREEWAY RUclips VIDEOS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
at first glance you would think this is a troll comment, but seriously I am seeing just how much people love train videos.
+Biker Boiy; my irrrs!!!1
magnificent - every bit as fantastic as the first shuttle launch or the Saturn V - certainly a pinnacle of human mind creation and steel, this simple & perfect video correctly places all of that in it's rightful perspective.
It's Emmett Lathrop "Doc" Brown and Carla with his Fandom powered time machine! They must be headed to meet up with Marty to fix the flux capacitor in the DeLorean.
gonna be hard with the DeLorean smashed into a thousand pieces!
You are very correct about the appearance of very little smoke. My grandfather was an engineer for the C&O . He always told me that when you see a steam engine pouring out a lot of black and grey smoke, that the fireman and engineer basically didn't know what they were doing. He said the only time you should see any measurable amount of grey ,not black smoke is during a big transition in the grade, or when you are blowing out the tubing. Getting rid of cinder and suet buildup. The diesel engine behind the steamer is there basically for only one purpose, in this configuration. That's if the steamer breaks down. All of the larger steam locomotives have an electric generator, and with it only pulling 7 or 8 cars ,you should never need a dynamic brake. Great video. That is a neat experience. I'm not exactly sure, but I don't think metrolink purchases dynamic brake units on any of their locomotives.
Gene Hall, short trains need braking on the locomotive more than long trains do. On long trains the head end loco brakes aren't used. Only the cars' brakes are used. It keeps the train stretched out.
Steam trains locomotives, we're most beautiful trains of al time ,as compare nowdays trains
@Izumi Culture I dunno, the 0 series Shinkansen is pretty memorable (and groundbreaking), IMO.
My Uncle was hired by AT&SF back in the early 1930's and the days of steam was all he talked about. He retired about 1977. I wonder what year that locomotive was built?
1927 by Baldwin
By the way, thanks for a cool video of a steam train. Yes, _train_. It was a train, and it was a steam engine pulling it so it was a steam train.
And you do put a lot of work into keeping this up to date with the FAQ and all. Thumbs up!
Thankyou Steam Train is a normal thing to say when you see a steam engine pulling a train. :)
57thorns Does this mean that from now on we should call them "Diesel Trains"? Since the locomotive/s are "Diesel" powered.
There are at least three kinds of diesel fueled locomotive engines:
Direct drive (very rare as I understand it).
diesel electric (the most common modern diesel engine)
steam locomotives using diesel fuel.
Steam engines (stationary or moving) are external combustion engines, where heat is applied to a water tank, creating steam that drives the pistons that create motion.
Diesel engines are internal combustion engines, where the fuel is burned inside the cylinder.
The distinction between external and internal combustion is the major key to what kind of engine it is, the fuel is of less importance.
This is right near my house (Alhambra/Rosemead). This rail line used to be part of the old trolley system. During that time the rail line ran in between a four lane highway (two lanes each way). The freeway was an enlargement of the highway that previously existed.
Wish we still had the trolleys -- at least then the weirdly-tilted roads/humps all through Alhambra/San Gabriel would have a purpose, and not just serve as ramps for dinguses blowing through the lights.
All we had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!
That's cool! If you're out west you can go to Durango CO. The D&SNG is there. Authentic late 19th century train. It'll take you up to Silverton. I've ridden it. Burned cinders in the hair and everything. Amazing scenery. I'd LOVE to be on a highway and have one of these pull up next to me like that.
I’m going to California for winter break.... I hope I see this
It is so cool to see a steam train in the middle of highway,.
I am a Chinese, when I was a kid, there was a narrow gauge railway right in the center of the main road in the city, the best part was a steam locomotive hauling some coal carts pass the gate of local police department. This scene has gone for 15 years and I miss it so much.
Those train tracks parallel to the road exist in Calgary Alberta except the train is just a usual city train
A Beautiful beatiful of machinery. An absolute work of immaculate restoration & definitely a piece of art Chugging away so gracefully.
Black smoke means the fireman could do better, but many crews will smoke the engine on purpose for the camera because it looks impressive. Makes me want to hit the fireman with the shovel too for giving the engines a reputation for pollution.
White smoke is not really smoke- its exhaust steam, cooling off and condensing as it leaves the engine. This is a good thing to see, because it means so much of the energy in the fuel made it into the locomotive that the exhaust gas is cold when it comes out.
I usually fire coal, and when I do I aim for a faint haze of black so that I know I am not injuring the boiler by giving it excess air. With a few exceptions, I can usually keep the engine burning hot and efficient so that as much of the energy in the coal is captured by the boiler as possible.
it might make people think they pollute heavily but no matter how hard you try, you can't satisfy everyone. I like to see it occasionally for pics
It’s a awesome stretch of rail!!! I grew up in Cheyenne Wyoming even abated asbestos from a steam locomotive long ago in the Cheyenne UP Roundhouse ,yes my family has a history of rail! My Beloved Brother in Law ,William” Bill “ Riley operated UPRR 8444 long before he received posthumously the rare and prestigious Golden Spike Award..which sits at Bailey Yard in the Golden Spike Museum, North Platte Nebraska! I live in California now and have driven this stretch of Freeway! The Grapevine is pretty cool to for rail fans! Happy Rails To You, Until We Meet Again!! The Wild Wild West! Live The Legend! Cheyenne! Sherman Pass! Ames Monument! Tie Siding...don’t get me going on about the UP Creasote ponds we where sent in for chemical remediation! It was a incredible project that again changed with the times! The WyoColo rail out of Laramie was awesome too ,long gone!
Love this. Thumbs up.
Use the CC to translate from British to American.
"Use the CC to translate from British to American." heh? I know Americans spell words differently to English words, but other than it's the same thing.
Wonder World YOU NEED TO LEARN AMERICANISH
What's wrong with proper English?
English is english...fuck sakes. As an American, our “English” may be modernized, but it’s still English. We spell “ise” spellings with Z to form “ize” and we don’t use “colour” we use “color”. really there’s not much difference.
@@WonderWorldYTC As Mark Twain said: It is no longer correct to speak of the Queen's English; the property had become a common stock organization, and we Americans own the majority of the shares.
Not sure when the video was actually taken but that steam locomotive was almost a hundred years old and running strong absolutely amazing
I love steam locomotives
You can see in the video that a LOT of the cars had slowed down to match the speed of the train because it was such an impressive sight.
2:16 *GARFIELD AVE*
*GARFIELD AVENUE YOOOOO*
And The Hat just up the road!!!
A little correction that many (even die-hard train enthusiasts) get wrong is the reason the diesel locomotive is there actually isn't because the steam locomotive can't run without it, or because they are worried about it breaking down. It's actually because most modern rail lines use GPS and other more modern technologies to determine the location of the trains, switch the tracks and flip the signals accordingly. However because steam locomotives don't have GPS or even a source of electrical power to run a GPS they are effectively invisible to the rail networks, and can't trigger the rail signals, which can create major issues when running the steam trains, especially through areas that have lots of rail traffic. So a simple solution around this is to just attach a train that does have those features to the steam locomotive so the rail network can see the train just fine.
In the Summer of 2024 the BIG BOY another steam locomotive (not this one) became the first steam locomotive ever to be upgraded to be able to use satellite and GPS navigation. In order to make the train work it was upgraded with a small piston system that converts some of the train's steam into electrical power that feeds electricity into batteries that run the train's computer and navigation system. As a result in July 2024, the Big Boy went from Wyoming to Califonia and back without a diesel locomotive on its back. With the success of the Big Boy upgrade it's quite likely many trains including this one may receive upgrades in the future allowing them to run on modern rails without a diesel locomotive.
Very cool video thanks for sharing!
0:50 - 6 feet? Umm, no. They miscalculated a bit there for dramatic effect.
lol
Social distancing.
Wonder World steam train video
That was amazing! CHARMING!
Excellent quirky subject, well told, merging of disparate ideas into a low key comfortable respite for a few moments!
Thanks! I'm coming back for more!
Great stuff! I know that freeway well.
it's in your home city?
My dad grew up in the prime steam locomotive era (early 1900's) and told me those pictures with huge plumes of black smoke coming out of them were mostly for show. He said that a coal fired, and later, the oil fired steam locomotives, wouldn't make hardly any smoke if they were running "just right." Smoke was a sign of wasted fuel and effort.
A steam locomotive on a expressway does make a unique sight.
Your father knew his business. If I remember correctly, the fireman would try to keep the smoke a very light grey, as black smoke indicates too much fuel and a cold fire, whereas no smoke at all means the fire is burning too hot and too fast, which is again, a waste of fuel.
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Almost forgot I made this comment.
My dad was from mining country in northern Minnesota, so was very familiar with railroad activity of that area/era. Plus, he worked for the Great Northern RR on summer break from university (construction/maintenance.. not trains). He had many interesting stories - railroad & others!! - to tell.
And now that I'm an old man I've lots boring stories to tell about the good old days!!
That's very interesting! I've always been interested in the old ways of doing things. Its unfortunate that I was born about a hundred years late, haha
For all the thomas fans,this is a tender engine,thomas was a tank engine,there are literally hundreds of steam engine types,every steam engine is not thomas.Call it Henry or Gordon for example.
without audio it's no where near as neat to see. Hearing that thing next to you is amazing
A diesel in case the steamer fails; what a laught! They are more reliable then todays diesels!!!
You're so wrong the modern diesel locomotive can go months without being touched but a steam engine needed maintenance Everytime it came in from a run How do I know this well I'm a locomotive engineer with 39 yrs of experience and when I was younger I worked with my father on a lot of different steam engines
like the 614 ,587 rode thee American Freedom train plus many other steam trains.
Rodney Sunderland You're correct. And too gotta keep the Wheels very maintained oiled if you get what I'm saying. That's 1 of the most critical parts of the train.
Rodney Sunderland frequent maintenance is exactly what makes that old girl reliable, doesn't really matter the vehicle, its never any better than its maintenance regimen, in my opinion anyway :-)
While they may be considerably mechanically simpler, steam locomotives consume huge amounts of lubricant oil to keep things going smoothly. Locomotives prior to the 1940's typically use fluid bearings, instead of roller bearings. These bearings leak oil, and every hundred or so miles, they have to be topped up with new oil or they'll run dry. The N&W J class was revolutionary in its heavy use of roller bearings, and French engineer Andre Chapelon made special note of converting every single bearing on the SNCF locomotives he redesigned to roller bearings.
Steam locomotives needed much more maintenance that modern diesels, partly down to their age, but most of it was designed in, and only alleviated in very late locomotive designs. Every day the firebox needs cleaning, the smokebox needs to be emptied of ashes, the firetubes swept with a brush as long as the boiler of the locomotive. Very hot, sweaty, and cumbersome work.
And modern diesel locomotives need much less maintenance than earlier generations.
Really nice video and commentary, for which thanks!
:)
THIS IS THE FUTURE!
TheRManProds technically speaking it's the past...
Actually.. they are looking at what it would take to get locomotives off of Oil. One designer is thinking about automated coke (refined coal), that is cleaner than diesel. At higher speed (above 40mph), Steam Engines are more energy efficient than diesel. The biggest issue is reliability of high pressure water vessels.
Check out Brightline in Florida
UM NO RMAN IS RIGHT! :P
Rman Nayr Oh look it’s the Kids little brother, Have you had a nap yet? Do you need a timeout?
We have that same arrangement in Perth Western Australia. Tracks down centre of freeway and very close to cars. Never been an issue.
They need to put more cars behind it
number 1 n&w 1218 fan, sell more tickets. Donate more money. Volunteer.
Like hook car transporters so commuters can ride the rail and make better time. Or let people whose cars have aftermarket rail wheel add ons enter the hov/rail lane and set their car on cruise for an autosteer experience.
At first i thought this was the MoPac Freeway in Austin TX which has UP trains running down the center . Cool to see a Santa
Fe train like this one!
THE FUTURE IS NOW!
This is a former Pacific Electric Interurban (tram line) and I-10 used to be a much smaller road, hence why the rail line was down the middle. Now the PE line is a mainline and the dual carriageway road is now I-10. Fuel oil can out out just as much smoke, either overfiring (Hollywood always did that with No 3 (BTF III, Petticoat Jct, etc), or by sanding the flues. The car on the end is the CARITAS and it has an open back Vestibule, or back porch. It is possible to stand on it out in the open as the train travels along the interstate.
TGV Train: All Had to Do was Follow The Damn Steam Train BNSF!!!
Lol
We have a couple of freeways out here like that. The tracks on the I-210 have been converted to light rail transit, the I-10 is still heavy rail, and on I-5 going to San Diego there is a section where the train runs center of the highway as well. Frankly someone once said we should have built them all like that. And I agree. It's efficient use of space, but many rail lines were all ready in place before the highway system was built.
Have you ever been to perth Australia? we have 2 high speed lines that runs within the freeway median for 110km at speeds of up to 130km/h do some research
I did find a video showing that train, it is sort of the same thing but still a huge gap between the train & cars.
Chicago too!
Not at all points. In some places it does get pretty close
you consider 130km/h highspeed?
jayyy092 130km/h is snail speed. But for aussies who live in la la land. It is
Love that. Wish they could do that more often in more places.
[Driving along] "wow that train is so awesome it's just 6 feet away from my car look at it go I can't beliv**SMASH!!!!!** .......
[Not drving along anymore] "Wow that stopped traffic I just rear ended really came out of nowhere!"
Very cool video. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
Thanks you too
The funny thing is that that outdated dinosaur can outrun most of the shit we got on American rails today
Hell the diesel probably would just slow it down
Diesel-electric and electric locomotives are geared for maximum speeds that they must not exceed even coasting downgrade as the electric driving motors will be wrecked by excessive speed.
The same diesel or electric locomotive that is geared for 90 mph max can be geared for 120 mph max. It then cannot pull with as much force.
Rod steam locomotives likewise have maximum allowable speeds. A reciprocating mass (piston, piston rod, crosshead, main rod) cannot be perfectly balanced with a rotating mass (counterweight). Too much speed and the main driver will lift from the rail and slam down, denting the rail, possibly breaking the driver tire. A general rule is that the diameter of the driving wheels in inches +10% is the maximum permitted speed. 50" driver: 55 mph; 70" driver: 80 (77) mph; 80" driver: 90 (88) mph.
Wow I've never seen any steam locomotives in the middle of the motorway before in my entire life.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
wonder world just north of woodland,Washington these the BNSF SEATTLE SUB DOWN MIDDLE OF I5 BNSF UNION PACIFIC RR'S AMTRAK TALGO TRAINS COAST STARLIGHT AMAZING RIGHT can you do of this rail line down middle i5 ?
What a beautiful machine. Those old steamers are almost alive.
That’s gotta be a distraction.
it was look at footage at 0:30 onwards those cars keeping pace with the train have their hazard lights on, maybe to look at the train, maybe to film the train, but clearly because of the train.
Wonder World -those were metrolink workers and some people that's why there is is a slight congestion
What a gorgeous looking engine. greetings from UK ,thanks.
That’s beautiful... but don’t forget that the US railway network is one of the most inefficient of the 1st world countries.
Not true. Rail in the US is mostly used for freight, which is one of the best freight systems in the world. However, commercial rail is very inefficient, that I do agree with.
Not, Even, Close.
Just because North American(let's not leave Canada out on this, we basically have the exact same railway network but north of the 49th parallel.)
Railroads in the US were constructed, and continue to be used, as long-distance freight and heavy passenger hauling.
It's really easy to shit all over American railroads when you just look at speed, when you guys over in Europe are hauling millions of tons of freight, across an entire continent faster than we are, then you can talk to me about being more effecient.
Trains in Europe are basically glorified busses, the distances you travel are so short, you don't need powerful locomotives or long trains, of course a train from Paris to Berlin only takes a few minutes while a train from Chicago to LA takes two days, there is a difference of several thousand miles.
Someones uninformed...
The Arctic Gamer - European railroads are heavily subsidized by the governments. Most USA RRs are operated as businesses that are expected to turn a profit.
Amtrak is not a railroad except for some routes in the northeast corridor. Amtrak trains run on the tracks of (freight) railroads.
Even in the northeast corridor, NS still operates most of the lines for freight service occasionally.
That's another good point, America doesn't even really have a "rail network" the railroads here were built by businesses or by very ambitious and wealthy individuals, it's not like Europe where the vast majority of the rail lines were built, and continue to be operated by the government.
A Union Pacific train can't just take a manifest to Miami, they can only operate on their own tracks that they either built or purchased, or in some cases(like in the Mojave Desert) have trackage rights on other railroads, therefore UP would have to transfer the train to NS, which would take it south and transfer it to CSX who would then take it to Miami.
American rail systems vary widely in quality too, for example Southern Pacific prided itself on keeping their rails well maintained, meanwhile Penn Central trains over in the east looked like they had parkinson's, you try running a train at 120mph on tracks that haven't been repaired in 35 years, see how that goes.
Awesome! Thanks for leading me to such awe! On Google Maps, I even found a crazy station along this line, just down the road!
There's also a place like this in Richmond, Virginia, along route 76!
IT'S THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE! (I KNOW IT'S NOT A TANK ENGINE, BUT THIS LITERALLY THOMAS IN RL)!
TheRManProds Thomas the Dank Engline
Kristian Myhre-Bjerkenes because it's a steam engine with the circular facial facade that Thomas the Dank Engine has!
STFU!
You need glasses kid if you think this Santa Fe Class locomotive is Thomas. Thomas is an E2 Tank engine. This train is literally a tender engine you stupid fuck.
Russian Vodka Indeed. He is on Walter White's crystal meth and sees Thomas everywhere.
Just a bit more of insight to this portion of the line that runs down the middle of the I-10:
As already established, and is usually the case, the tracks were there first. It was part of the Los Angeles interurban trolley system called the Pacific Electric, with this being their San Bernardino line, which ran between LA and San Bernardino to the east, and completed around 1914. Between 1933 to 1935, an express thoroughfare called Ramona Boulevard (or the Ramona Parkway) was constructed alongside a portion of this line to serve road traffic for the eastern Los Angeles communities in the San Gabriel valley (the area you see in the video). This thoroughfare became one of the precursors to the modern freeway system in LA.
In 1941, the Pacific Electric closed operations on the line, and the overhead power lines were torn down, as demand for road traffic increased and ridership decreased. The Pacific Electric was absorbed into the Southern Pacific railroad, and the track within the freeway portion was used as a secondary line to the Southern Pacific's main transcontinental line the "Sunset Route," running freight trains. Overtime, the Ramona Parkway grew wider, slowly encroaching over the rail line's right of way, and became the modern freeway with the narrow space for tracks we see today.
In the early 90's, the Southern California Regional Rail Authority (SCAA, aka Metrolink) bought the line, and between 1992 to 1993, established the Metrolink commuter train service between Los Angeles and San Bernardino we see today.
Here's a picture of what it looked like in 1970 -- There's a better picture from the 1950's that I annoyingly can't find at the moment:
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In the background of the last picture, you can see a curve in the track. Here is that same curve taken from the opposite direction at an earlier date, when the trolley cars were still active:
www.pacificelectric.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AW-PERY-Car-1210-Valley-Jct.jpg
And here's a blog article about the history of the Ramona Parkway, since you mentioned that you could not find information on this stretch of interstate:
losangelespast.blogspot.com/2010/12/ramona-boulevard-las-first-expressway.html
I hope you find this tidbit of historical information interesting, as I know you have already found interest in the footage enough to do a video article about it. Have a wonderful day!
THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE IN REAL LIFE!!!!
umm no, a tank engine is a real thing, this is way bigger than one.
UM NO THIS WOULD BE THOMAS IN REAL LIFE IF HE EXISTED! He's a Cartoon Character.
umm no, look up the definition of "tank engine", Dumbass.
NOPE YOU STFU THE FUCK DUMBASS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THOMAS!
WTF happened to my New Year's resolution not to argue with morons on YT? ;-) Still, I now have new insights into the nuances of the English language.
There is a passenger rail line like this one right in the middle of I-25 in central NM just south of Santa Fe. Currently, there are no steam trains on the line, but AT&SF 2926 was just restored and is being readied for service, so stay tuned!
great video mate very big like and sub.
Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe 3751 is a class 3751 4-8-4 "Northern" type steam locomotive built in May 1927 by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in Eddystone (Philadelphia), Pennsylvania for the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railway (ATSF). No. 3751 was the first 4-8-4 steam locomotive built for the Santa Fe and was referenced in documentation as type: "Heavy Mountain", "New Mountain", or "Mountain 4-wheel trailer". No. 3751 served in passenger duties until being retired in 1953.
The locomotive was then placed on display in San Bernardino until it was restored to operating condition in 1991. It is currently located in the Central City East neighborhood of Los Angeles and has been listed on the National Register of Historic Places since 2000. It holds the distinction of being the oldest surviving 4-8-4 type steam locomotive in the world.
The locomotive is currently owned and operated by the San Bernardino Railroad Historical Society, which uses the locomotive to haul occasional mainline excursion trains. However, a federally mandated 15-year inspection put it out of service for three to four years. No. 3751's overhaul was completed in September 2022, and it returned to service that month.
Absolute amazing rail work & therapy
I feel proud that steam engine is keeping up with the traffic. It will always beat la traffic
I've yet to see that train, the steam engine that is. That looks so cool, driving near my home.
It's laid up in Downtown L.A. for maintenance. . .
A had a great uncle that was a steam engineer on the ATSF line. The last steam train he ran is now on display at the Texas railroad museum in Temple, Texas. When I was a boy, Uncle Pike told me that he could get her up to 110 mph.
Living in hawaii, I visted cali and saw that exact train. It was definetley memorable.
The 210 freeway (which is paralel to I-10 and about 5 miles to the north) also has a rail line running down the median for several miles. This track used to be the Santa Fe main line out of LA through Pasadena but it was closed in the 90s and now hosts the Gold Line light rail service.
Martin Usher plus the I-105 with the Green line going from Norwalk to LAX to Redondo.
That is the State Street line of the old Southern Pacific RR. It starts in East LA and exits in El Monte. As a former engineer on the SP i have taken many freight trains on this track. It was especially fun during rush hour passing all the cars in bumper to bumper traffic and waving to the pissed off commuters!
That was very cool and interesting to watch a train on the freeway.
You should come to Brno, Czech Republic for the next industrial fair. Each year a steam train is dispatched from Prague straight to the fair grounds. The final approach (two or three kilometers, if I recall correctly) is through the streets, crossing tram tracks. Not going next to a road, going dead center a major roadway.
Steam locomotives were quite literally the closest we've ever come to building a "living" machine. They could be said to eat and drink, they expended the energy from doing so, they very audibly breathed, even the whistle, powered by it's own steam and air, could be described as a mechanical facsimile to a natural voice. They couldn't do any of these things without man's direction, but they're the only thing we've ever made that DOES do them.