When did millions of tons of steel and concrete perched on a waterway or beach become more appealing or better in any way opposed to a boat floating on the water ? Even if it’s an older boat !
Because they own the property. You just sound jelly. What if a bunch of van livers pulled in the park next door to your house and decided to take up residence and act a fool?
@@finscreenname I live in Florida slick , I own plenty of property . I also know this becomes more of a problem the more “Karen’s” male and female come here from other states. They complain about sharks , gators , snakes etc too 😂
@@JL-cn6nh First off I'm not your "slick" and also I don't live in your state. But we have the same issue where I live. I don't have waterfront but I do have plenty of properties and I wouldn't want it to happen to any of them. And I sure as hell dont want to have to wade through a homeless encampment every time I go to the boat ramp.
@@finscreenname It gets into the darker side of human nature also as in petty meanspirited . . ness , as on east coast of Australia posh beach front property residents were affronted by overseas backpackers in vans (few years back fruit pickers etc on farms doing work ozzies turned nose up at) . . taking a break & parked overnight in beach carparks . . enjoying the same views as they for (((FREE))) . . humans are c_nts basically
As a native Floridian, I can safely say this has happened for over 30 years in Florida. The issue is that the top 0.05% of the money in South Florida does not want the "little people" to be able to benefit from access in any way. They believe that the area is theirs and theirs alone. They believe that they should be able to come and go with their $10,000,000.00+ yachts without having to seethe "Scraps"
The super rich over here in SRQ bitch all the time.. Oh, I didn't pay 5 million dollars for my house so people can live for free in the bay. They try to say that we are dumping our blackwater in the bay, causing the red tides.. Yeah, they try to say it's our fault we have red tides..
I live in palm beach county and when you go over the bridge onto the island the police look for many reasons to pull you over. I don’t know how bad the rules are for boats but unless you’re driving a car that’s over 100k they will keep their eyes on you. There are some decent people there but many are a-holes.
@@oneamericanpatriot108 well I can hardly side with either of the groups the extremely rich or the extremely poor. I don't think it would be a good idea to have boat life like they have in Asia where everybody is in a boat they're bumping into each other constantly and every so often they make enough space to take a dump into the water. So if you let these people show up here just floating and don't make them follow any rules you're basically going to have sewage and nobody can enjoy it. You have people living under a bridge and they keep taking a dump where they live there's four or five hundred people dumping a loaf there every day and the next thing you know the system takes care of itself and they all get sick. same thing here if you want to point at the ridge and complain about the ridge of the rich rich rich rich rich rich rich. Well the problem is if we let all those poor people float on anything down there and promise to get a toilet someday it's going to be completely full of excrement and there won't be any fish or wildlife or anything we're seeing there for a long time.
PLENTY of SPACE FOR HOMELESS DRUG ADDICTS CIty commissioners have 100 LAWYERS fighting for more addicts to rob from local residents and create havoc for taxpayers in once beautiful parks. Somehow their 24 hour party , fires, smoke, pot smoking stink, open latrines, and fenty does not bother the birds. But a SAILBOAT OMG, the birds will all die Unless of course, you are a drug addict, and buying drugs from city commissioners
@@gobfranklin6759 overfilling won't get you more than a half a gallon. So even if he filled both to the very brim (and he did point out that he stopped at the 5gal line) there would still have been more than a single gallon in that can. That station is deliberately ripping people off. Also, the PRICES! Holy crap! That owner is a straight up THIEF.
@@Wearyman Wonder what the owner looks like considering all the other gas stations that aren't part of a major franchise have a particular demographic.
As a boater, I hate to say it, but there are a very few people out there who ruin things for the rest of us. Not saying there aren't stuck ups in the rich neighborhoods and towns who think they own the world but there are some boats and people who shouldn't be out there because they are a danger to themselves and others.
I have a friend who used to be a "live aboard" off Coconut Grove. So it makes me see this issue in a nuanced way. It seems like it's harder and harder for people with limited means to get by. 😢
Absolutely. However there is a tradition of Mariners that goes back to the founding if Miami. It seems like the city will cut off its own foot with ANA'S Not everyone out here is doing harm. We just wish to live and sail free.
@@sailingEV888 right, you just want to hit a port along the way, take on food and fuel and be on your way. Unfortunately the live aboard in a decrepit boat is a minority of owners, but persistent enough right in the residents faces to change everyone's opinion of boat people that don't dock or trailer. One stolen 10 horse outboard can change a neutral to an opponent for life if the thief took off in a RIB
If you go to a place overseas where a lot of poor people go on boats you will find the waters surrounding those boats to be full of diseases. Then there's some pathetic slob like you that thinks making it illegal for people to live on a boat and s*** in the water all day is somehow making it hard for the poor to get by? If you let them just dump raw sewage, it will be hard for everybody to stay alive and enjoy the water
It’s been that way since biblical times… life ain’t fair ..Nor is the world…it never will be fair…so tell em to go get a job…put some folding money in yer pocket and the world becomes nicer….
Derelict boats becoming floating RV parks is ruining it for responsible cruising boats. Easiest solution is to limit a particular anchorage to 14 days before requiring more than 5 miles away. These derelict boats are environmental hazards and safety hazards to responsible, seaworthy vessels nearby.
Pure politics. Getting a few votes from the rich on the backs of poor people that own property that they cannot tax. But they have NO PROBLEM with homeless camps. Probably because they are selling them the drugs/ Why doesnt the city help them with grants to fix their vessels. No, instead they SPEND A FORTUNE kicking people out of their homes. Everyone else gets free money and grants.
I live in St Augustine and I wouldn’t keep a boat anywhere outside a marina for any period of time if you want to keep your winches, electronics, rigging, etcetera. Unfortunately a significant number of meth head goons living on the hook in derelict immobile vessels (way worse since Covid) clearly have ruined it for the rest of the sailing community. Add to that dismasted boats sinking adjacent to the water way, with their rigging just below the waterline at high tide just waiting to sink someone. The county is not doing nearly enough about it. Someone is going to get seriously hurt. I’m all for visitors and travelers enjoying their rights to our waterways, but floating tent cities full of thieves and creating submerged unmarked hazards, and contaminating the river with black water and fuel indiscriminately has to end. The number of used syringes I’ve cleaned up on the beach used by a youth sailing program adjacent to one of the common anchorages is unacceptable evidence of what I’m talking about.
I disagree. Maybe those meth heads are just living with trauma in there lives and had to escape to sea.. (I have not seen a meth head ever) .. just men mis understood.. Living free away from tyranny. I don't get any meth head vibes from any of these Men. These people are traditional Mariners they are just trying to live with what they have free from the BS on the internet and cable news..
A few people ruining it for the rest that follow the rules even if they are unwritten. A free mooring ball maintained by the city isn’t and never was meant to be a permanent place to keep your boat. It’s for transient boaters to spend a week a month etc. it’s the honor system. Spend some time there and move on. I don’t care how nice your boat is or isn’t how rich you are or aren’t. It’s not permanent mooring. So now because of a few floating junkyards basically squatting on a free morning it’s going to ruin it for everyone else. Boats on a public mooring should absolutely be required to operate under their own power. Boats are expensive if you can’t maintain it and have permanent storage don’t own it.
Here in Alberta, we are only allowed to camp for free on Crown land up to 14 days after that you must relocate and you’re good again for another 14 days. It’s no big deal and it makes sense.
Yeah I think 45 days is too much for many areas. We want to keep it as free as possible but there is a hippie boat movement that youtube kinda got started. Its the source of a lot of the problems. People with just enough money to get a barely floating boat, and not enough money to fix it. People with not enough money to take care of themselves, can't afford a mooring ball much less a marina. Not saying you need either but if you can't move your boat onto the dry, into a slip, or fire up the motor reliably to leave then when we get a hurricane those boats end up on the bottom, in the mangroves, on the rocks, crashed up against bridges, ect. And those people learn it cost more to retrieve the boats than the boat is worth, or more than they have and leave them right where they are. They become an environmental hazard, navigation hazard, and are even uglier to look at than when they were floating. The taxpayer pays to remove them. The way Florida law works with derelict vessels there is little incentive to try to clean up your mess and some boats that can possibly be rescued by people with means can't because unless the owner signs it to you there is no salvage law that will allow you to legally take possession. I have seen very nice, easily salvageable sailing and power yachts left to rot when someone like me would have definitely saved them. One close by me has probably a few thousand dollars of scrap metal on the deck alone.
San Diego California got out of control with junk unseaworthy boats as well. The port kicked everyone out and installed moorings that they charge by the month for. The boats need to get a safety inspection by the Coast Guard before you are allowed to lease them. They also require a yearly inspection.
@@boristheamerican2938Republicans become down with the regulation as soon as the riff raff shows up. Why do you think Florida cities don't look like California cities with tranq zombies everywhere?
@@wahid-lg1kk Here in So Cal we have 24 hour temp moorings, or slips, for that exact purpose. We also have several places where you can anchor near facilities and shop at the fuel stations, or the Chandelery, and food mkt. I never have had a problem if I called ahead to harbor master, or took a short term rent on a mooring at Catalina, or Channels Islands where most of my ocean sailing is.
Pure politics. Getting a few votes from the rich on the backs of poor people that own property that they cannot tax. But they have NO PROBLEM with homeless camps. Probably because they are selling them the drugs/ Why doesnt the city help them with grants to fix their vessels. No, instead they SPEND A FORTUNE kicking people out of their homes. Everyone else gets free money and grants.
The derelict boats are the problem and with people living on them the problem gets worse . Usually without holding tanks they pump their sewage straight into the bay . The real sailors who maintain their boats properly and are respectful of the ocean end up with fewer and fewer places to anchor . Free anchorages will soon become a thing of the past .
Public seawalls are owned by the people, not the not the rich. SO address it individually. Its not right to prevent people from getting food. Pure politics. Getting a few votes from the rich on the backs of poor people that own property that they cannot tax. But they have NO PROBLEM with homeless camps. Probably because they are selling them the drugs/ Why doesnt the city help them with grants to fix their vessels. No, instead they SPEND A FORTUNE kicking people out of their homes. Everyone else gets free money and grants.
In the water silly goose, what do you think, does the garbage fairy come around and just pick it up. Bottom line is for every decent responsible boater there are 50 scum bags who life like pigs and do not car what damage they cause to the earth.
Most of the have dinghies and go to shore. The new laws make it so they have to go further out to where they will HAVE to dump all this stuff into the water.
It's called pumpouts, throw the trash in a dinghy and take it to the nearest trash bin, and the crabs eat the scraps. And Stakeholders don't own the water, the State does. Period.
The real issue is when storms come in and the boats break off there mooring and hit boats in the marina/clubs/homes and the owners have no insurance or funds to repair damage caused by their property. I am a member at a club where your video started and this happen to me a few years back. My boat was damaged and the owner of the boat that broke loose had no insurance or funds to pay my repairs. So I got stuck with the bill. There has to be a limit on the boats moored and they should pass laws to have a minimum of PIP insurance. If the boat doesn’t have a valid registration they should be removed all together from any waterway. This is a real issue and the transit boater will be affected must once laws are in place. Also it’s starting to affect the keys which needs to be stopped before it becomes an issue like in south Florida.
Do you think it would be better for these people to be homeless out in the elements? I myself was disabled from a Refinery chemical release so I live on my boat because I have no income and it's the cheapest way for me to survive. Not to mention I have life-threatening reactions to Everyday chemicals so I can't live in any existing buildings or with anybody at all. What was I supposed to do? I'm asking because everybody commenting seems to have all the answers
The instant you mandate insurance insurance rates. Increase by several orders of magnitude. Many can't get insurance because they have to come up with thousands to get the boat surveyed then it is only 250 a year for liability insurance but $5000 for haul out survey and then any repair deemed to be needed so yeah let's move these people off the boats and under the bridges, then we can make sleeping on public property illegal and spend millions more jailing these people talk about penny wise and dollar wasteful.
If a storm rips my boat off of its moorings and damages your boat my insurance company is going to claim act of God and fuck you over in the proverbial snow there buckwheat.
What you didn't have insurance on your boat ? Somebody else should pay for the damage of your neglect ? You believe those with money should have the ability to violate the rights of poor.. Then we should destroy the currency and put the shoe on the other foot
You should definitely call whatever state agency is in charge of gasoline weights and measuring. Kind of an ironic turn having to utilize a state agency to right a wrong.
I had a similar thing happen years ago when my Chevy Metro with a 7.8 gallon tank suddenly took over 10 gallons to fill up. I called and reported the station and they eventually got closed after several large fines for repeatedly doing the same thing. In my state (Washington), and other I am sure, they actually have unmarked cars with dummy measuring tanks that they use to check the rate at gas stations. The stations don't even know they are being checked. Still it is an understaffed part of the state government and they do depend on tips to know who they should be checking.
Yep there's a sticker on that pump with the date that it was checked (calibrated) and stickered/dated as such. Phone number* is on the sticker. If sticker is GONE, go to ANY other gas/fuel pump to get the phone nunber. If the sticker is missing, that's their first violation. REPORT THEM. ----- *It's actually called "weights & measures" so good call, really good call!
I live in South Florida, and the problem got really bad after Covid. It seems to have gotten worse with the derelict boats and the junk boats everywhere. Then when people decide they’re gonna abandon them, they pull the decals and the Vin number off so it can’t be traced back to them. They abandoned them they sink and the state has to pay to get them out and it seems like a lot of riffraff around Miami and Coconut Grove on those boats, that’s why people don’t want them around
@@Steve-ev6vx with the amount of pollution produced worldwide by all the manufacturing plants/facilities this is nothing but a drop in an ocean, literally
@@serggla924 no they still have fuel and oils cleaning supplies and people’s stuff in them not good for the marine environment plus it’s a navigation hazard
I served on the Miami Beach Marine Authority for many years. It all boils down to the gentrification of the coast line. The rich landowners do not want their views of the water obstructed. Others are paranoid of strangers in boats being so close to their homes. Almost 100% of the shoreline from Hollywood, Florida, down to Key Largo is now off limits to anyone going onhore with a dinghy. Years ago, there were areas where you could dinghy ashore and go shopping, etc. That's all gone now.
That's true. Got to be a middle ground. A screening process maybe. Maybe a check in process where you can determine cruisers and locals setting up shop on barely floating vessels.
Unfortunately, it’s the only affordable housing in the area. It’s pretty normal to see people living on a boat that hasn’t moved under its own power in years and is just a floating apartment. My advice for Mike is to watch his back. Those are pirate waters.
@ozarksailor2714 True but leaving South Florida should be the goal. South Florida is where I grew up. I doubt my quality of life would be what it is now if I tried to stay. I left with nothing but my car, clothes and the hope to find some work. It worked out. Knowing what I know now, I would have done it even easier today despite it being more expensive overall.
@@adamtedder1012 from what I’ve gathered the fwc is regularly boarding and checking boats in the more popular anchorage’s trying to keep the riffraff out.
This is an issue that was approached some years ago well before Desantis was governor. (just to give a time perspective) Its not new This issue was that there are (or were) THOUSANDS maybe tens of thousands of boats essentially abandoned on the various waterways all around Florida. Some had people living on them defecating into the water, washing clothes in the water. walking around naked playing loud music etc. People basically living in a tent a mere few feet from your home.(not a mansion just a normal house) If you want to live like that go to California etc where they not only support that lifestyle they embrace it! These boats wee not sailing or traveling it is a tenement on the water feet from your home. The bigger issue is hundreds boats that were simply rotting away, their owners died, or simply abandoned them. Repairs to make them "seaworthy' again far exceeded the value of boat when it was new much less in its current state. This is the heart of the problem. Envy is not the issue. Tax money is not the issue the "muh freedom" derp is not the issue. So the solution will be ( unfortunately) Paid moorings and short terms on those moorings. So the boats don't pile up, get abandoned and and rot away becoming someone elses problem. If you are going to be away for an extended time. Haul the boat and put it on the hard. ( its better for the boat any way.)
Blame the boaters for not policing themselves. Living in coastal Fla, we see the issue. Just homeless camps on the water. A lot of them end up washed onshore after a storm, leaving the taxpayers to haul their crap off. Plus, they have no insurance for any damages!😡
That’s a stupid statement. Boaters can’t arbitrarily police other boaters without legal authority. Even if they were granted the legal framework to do so, there would be violent confrontations and time/effort expense involved. Why would the legitimate cruisers do that? That’s why we have professional law enforcement.
As a lifelong Floridian born and raised in Miami. I now live in North Florida. The Anchorage and long time,, mooring balls, living in a designated Anchorage area. I believe all vessels will need to be fully insured, the derelict and sinking of these vessels, ends up being the burden of the taxpayers of the city and state. Wind up having to remove these at our cost. This is what created this special type of legislation in the first place. We have too many derelict and sunken boats all over the state that has created a massive environmental problem, navigational problems. All these costs fall back on the taxpayers of Florida. Has the taxpayer here in the State of Florida and someone who truly enjoys all the outdoors recreation that has to offer, I don't think I should have to pay for somebody else's poor seamanship skills, and there inability to acquire insurance for their vessel.
I have no dog in the fight because I neither live in Florida nor do i cruise anymore. But if you are incensed by this ask yourself this question. Why would anyone in south Florida want you to be there? It's not like you add anything to the economy. No fuel purchases, no mooring ball purchases, force bridge openings disrupting traffic, dinghy to shore to use free facilities, minimal restaurant visits etc. Many do anything they can to not even get their waste tanks pumped. Look at all the vessels with the yellow fuel tanks on the deck just to get an understanding. And 1 guess as to which country they are mostly from. Its all take and no give. The Bahamas figured this out and at least charges $300 or $600 balance it out a bit. Cry me a river but until you become a valuable and welcome contributor to the local economy and not just a mooch then this is what you get.
......What the hell is wrong with you? Marking sailors who love the easer & peaceful lifestyle...Nothing else to do with your free time?... ...Sailor & Artist, Old Naples Florida🌴🎨 Paradise Coast🌊
@@ozarksailor2714 - You Dumpster Commandos are all alike...Nothing else to do but watch other people...Get yourself a job in Walmart & bust poor people for taking food... ...Old Naples Florida 🌴🎨
I'm surprised that you didn't immediately call the state regulators when your pump delivered less than 15 gallons, it seems off by about 5%. You take pictures of the pump and your containers and send them too. Violations cost them money. And force them to repair their pumps.
Question: What is the capacity of your yellow diesel cans? When I first got mine, I bumped into the same issue. Puzzled, I read the side of the cans: Capacity - 6 US Gallons. Red gasoline cans are 5 US Gals.
I purchased these cans from home depot in Vero Beach. 100% new cans 5 gallons. Machine said 14.7 it pumped maybe 12 gallons. It's odd. Some one needs to go fill up and measure..
Rich stink-boaters never pump their blackwater into the harbor instead of burning $60 worth of gas to go to the nearest pump-out station. Even if that were true, one stink-boater dumps more oil and gas into the water than a hundred blow-boaters... and let's not even talk about the air pollution... and noise pollution. And what about little stink-powered jon-boats? Where do you suppose those fishermen empty their bladders? Why do most of them seem to carry black buckets that always come home empty?
Really well in a recent report where police raided a number of boats only one seemed flush overboard they did their tests by flushing due through the toilets.
Ain't done with you yet pumpkin how many blow boats are there in Biscayne bay a thousand live abroad 2000 how many it they all flush overboard would they put anywhere near as mush sewage into the water that the wastewater treatment plants dump ? Or as much feces as rain washes down storm sewers from the cities dogs please most of these people get pumped out and some have composting toilets instead of wasting millions trying to prevent these people from living aboard maybe free pump outs at all marinas or a pump out service boat for live aboard's that need it,? It will save money in the long run.
Soooooo y not go after those folks instead of everyone...... ohhhh ya that mite make the situation better cant have that....they just think its their shore...
Enjoyed boating in Miami very much back in the 90’s, however after 911 that city lost its mojo, the cool people left and the barbarians moved in. Now it’s just low class on money, sad thing really.
Did anyone notice I got ripped off? That gas station sold me 15 gallon s of diesel I only got 12!! WtF!? The people of Miami beach are being ripped off! The gas station is scam! Typically Miami beach I guess! IM OUTA HERE!! BAHAMAS BOUND!
Everyone would be floored if they saw what’s going on both sides of the highway entering into key west. There are at least 100 homeless pirates living in dinghies in and around key west.⛵️
We're not homeless. You try living down here with rent being $1600 a month for a ROOM. You have to have 2 full time jobs to live down here. It's cheaper to live on a boat.
The anchorages are so full of vessels that obviously haven’t moved in a long long time that visitors have little if any place to anchor. We’ve stopped going to KW as a result. It is a mess. I understand both sides of the issue so idk what to about it. Bigger controlling govt doesn’t sound right but people will take advantage of the system and ruin it for everyone otherwise.
Much like the policia and their ubiquitous "to protect and to serve" claims on their cruisers but they always leave off the more salient part "the wealthy and the propertied class". :(
There are no bums in Australia . . everyone is getting fleeced with the goods & services tax aka all a taxpayer . . whether you work or not . . from the cradle to the grave . . it all started around 1970 ish . . when Australia woke up one morning to discover the coat of arms changed & Australia had become a company registered in the district of Columbia Washington US aka a C_A quiet coup
Pay no fucking taxes except when you buy the boat and every year you register the boat, and on every dollar I've ever earned in my fucking life, or anything I buy from stores no I'm paying no taxes at all, no taxes at all. Meanwhile rich landowners that undervalue their property to dodge tax are getting $200,000,000, from Florida to offset the cost of hurricane insurance.
Teirny. The elites have spoken! Do not anchor infront of my home! I don't want you looking in! What are they hiding!? I was anchored ⚓️ in the venetian Islands for 30 mins and a police officer asked me to leave! I'm not spying! I was anchored for SAFETY purposes. WtF? I was wondering if I would drag ⚓️! The only shelter was the venetian fingers. Makes no sense..
Financial responsibility should be enforced upon every individual whether seaman or on land. Leaving a boat that may cause damage to a person or state without insurance or financial proof of payment is unfair to everyone. I don't like to make insurance companies rich or to have excessive laws but when people allow lower nature and negligence become an expense to others something needs to be done. We are better than a third world country.
What happens is the "bum boats" become hazards to navigation after the next big storm. Brevard County FL just cleaned up the Indian River & guess who gets to pay the bill ..
I can understand their concern for boats in disrepair. There should be a system for logging who is in the anchorage and how long they have been there so there is room for new boats coming in to stage for the trip to the Bahamas. I think they are killing income for the city by banning these transient boats.
This is AMERICA! no one cares! From the perspective of a Canadian... Rich people dont want Canadian cruisers looking into there windows! That's what this is about!
Sailors are notoriously the cheapest, no crowbar can open their wallet demographic on the water. Sure, there are plenty of sailors spending $$$ in Hylas63's and penny pincher powerboaters, but when you see a loner dude in a 1978 Catalina 30 with original sails, expect nothing.
Cheers mate this us a truth vlog. I love Catalina but EV is a 1979 Sceptre 36 build in BC Canada. She has pulled her weight and got me thru hell.. I love this vessel..
Times are gone when the abundant middle class could live on the Miami shoreline and while others could afford a nice sailboat and look after it in the bay. The middle class has grown much fewer in number while the very rich and very poor have increased in number. America no longer has the opportunity for a good living as it had decades ago. Government politicians are incapable of sustaining a healthy economic balance, but instead have let the economy go to ruin. It's a shame. The USA was the peak of human civilization until the government messed with it.
Blame the banning of new canal communities. Used to be developers would just dredge 5 miles of canals and create another 500 new waterfront lots. At that time living on the water was only 10% more than living on land nearby. But once the canal ban went into place, the prices of waterfront property skyrocketed. Now you'll see an EMPTY LOT with sailboat access sell for over a million, while an empty lot across the street that's landlocked might be $150k.
I think short term......one week or less would be enough time to provision and take a few days to rest would be fair......the long term stuff just brings in the riff Raff.
Honestly would you like people sleeping in cars in the public parking right next to your private property and within walking or swimming distance? Where do they throw out the trash if its a problem to come to shore and where do they refill water supply and dump sewage? Oh yeah thats right 200 feet from my dock so i can see all of it um brother i lived both lives on the water and on land but these people are absolutely within disturbing and video recording distance.. What if a pedo is living on the water next to my home skirting the law because hes/shes on water so yeah im with miami beach "phuc off" and live outside the bay like maybe tie to a Buoy about a mile away from civilization is more appropriate. I never anchored in-bay always out-bay so i feel nothing when i say what i said.. Its principle 👍
Hrmm what if that "junk" was somebody's home on water...... Not all are abandoned "junk" in your backyard, you sound like one of those rich people complaining about the boats....
@@SuperCitizen u woke people thinks that rich people shouldn't have right's however im a poor fisher man that live here and these boats are falling apart leaking toxics into the water way.
@@jeffcee9457 the solution isn't a broad one remove the direlec boats but your also restricting boaters who live full time on the waterway. Btw I'm not rich and we have same.problem in ft.myers bay
Super disapointing is what that is. I anchored in Biscayne Bay for 4 days coming up from the Keys. I understand not wanting derelict boats anchored about but come on! Headed to FL in the next couple months to put my boat back in the water and hopefully get her the hell out of Florida all together. Fair winds sir!
Call me pessimistic, I've already seen too much. I spent time in Hollywood North Lake, Lake Sylvia, and lived in South Beach, and Miami. The rich people don't want to see the poors. Florida is leading the way in criminalizing anyone not making 6 figures. This is a front in that war. I anticipate cruising will exclude more and more of Florida, and specifically the South. Crossing to The Bahamas from West Palm, Port Everglades, or No Name will become a thing of the past. West Palm Beach will become the new demarcation. You can expect many other places to follow.
Raised in West Palm Beach. It was on the Outskirts, Far West st the time. Was there in 2014; I see the Wealthy Devouring South Florida. Making it Suck.
That is truer than most realize & at core of current global problems stemming from push to globalism ideology false path which is against human nature & the critter kingdom also , came across this phenomena when researching yabby farming in Australia (fresh water crays) . . the water in farm ponds has to be turbid as in cloudy or else if clear the males can see each other across the way & spend all their time fighting with each other & not putting on weight for the table . . I believe this applies to humans & the internet is causing endless stress to an extent & squabbles
Tragedy of the commons, nobody was concerned about people anchoring short term, but legitimate cruisers got caught up in the attempt to run off the derelict boats dumping sewage overboard
The problem started 5 years ago in Seattle. These homeless have found they can get these boats at the recycle yards for free OR they find some idiot that took on a project boat that got out of control and snatch that for free. These boats have leaking holding tanks (sewer, black tank) generally no operational water tank(s) and incredibly unsafe cooking setups (they catch fire a lot). All their sewage goes directly into the water because of leaking tank or NONE OF THEM can afford a pump out service and then you and your kids swim in it. SMH disgusting people, so disgusting!
We use to have a squatter living next to our property here in Texas but I gave him plenty of grief over and over and finally the neighbors started the same and the creep moved on.
u called the florida department of standerds and messurments right their 800 number is on the pump they are required by law to test and make sure those pumps pump exactly the amount you pay for call the number and report the station
There are always some people who want to remove other people and limit their opportunities! More often than not, it's those with the most money who want some other people removed!
It was weird. I was told by an old salt to weather a storm in the venetian Islands. I anchored there in good weather and was immediately removed by police. Why? I was not looking into rich peoples yards! It just felt wrong and unconstitutional. However. I'm just a snowbird from Canada leaving the USA within days. I'm just worried about our future as Mariners. America is the land of freedom. With out that the rest of the world will suffer including Canada 🇨🇦
It's everywhere you have multimillionaire properties on the water. Doesn't matter where. The city will cater to their donors and largest contributors to taxes. Sane thing happened in San Fran. Same in cities all up and down the west coast. The wealthy paid good money not to have to see us. Only boats they want to see passing their windows is Mega yachts.
Thank you for the video. I am anchored at the Miami Marine Stadium and we are becoming to get harassed by the authorities as well. I can understand that because of the derelict boats and abuse of SOME of the vessel owners, the need to regulate anchorages but you can’t throw out the baby with the bath water. At least in the MMS anchorage I can assure you that the environmental impact is mostly from “weekend boaters” who come into the area and not the ones anchored there. BTW, that is not the “Miami River” those are the Miami Beach Canals. I grew up fishing those!! Smooth Seas and Fair Winds.
My family came to Miami in 1919 my Plan B if I ever lost all my money and didn't have a place to stay was to get a small boat and anchor out but as the years have gone by I can see that as less and less possible but years ago there were a lot of places you could anchor out beside the main anchorages I think there's still a liveaboard community at Coconut Grove at dinner key but I haven't been there in 10 years. For a long time I lived on a houseboat on the Miami river W 27th Ave. where Delaware Parkway goes over the river I subscribe to your channel good luck
I am a liveaboard over in SRQ, there are 7 of us. On the hook, we all work, none of us are drug addicts or drunk. Not all folks who don't want to or can't afford a 1900 a months slip, and with all the BS about getting in the MMF.. I wake up everyday at 5, row my ass ashore and go to work.. Some of us just want to save $$, not everybody who isn't in a slip is a druggie.
Great video. If your fuel containers are 20 litre each (looks like they are) and a US gal is 3.7 L the 15 US gallons you pumped would only fill 80% of the total 60 liter capacity of the three containers.
I anchored outside of No Name Harbor while waiting for good weather passage to Bahamas. Anchorage is also available across from Miami Beach municipal dock.
State of Hawaii makes you do a "Bouy run" periodically to prove your vessel isnt derelict. The main issue is that other than fines which people just ignore, there is no mechanism to remove vessels that have been at anchor for years for violations.
Those gas stations are supposed to be regulated but nope! I remember putting 12 gallons into my 10 gallon car tank. When I co fronted the manager he just shrugged. He was in on it.
This is WHY… it started in Seattle and has spread east. Homeless commandeer boats that barely float and make it their homeless camp which seems to be a “recycled home” and a good thing BUT there is some very serious problems with it. 1. No working black tank (sewage) so it goes directly into the water…. Massive environmental problems. 2. No money to have working black tanks pumped out so it gets dumped directly into the water. 3. They sink very often and that’s not only an environmental disaster but the state has to pay 6 figure money per boat to have them removed. It’s ironic that these are the same “save the planet” people that are doing this while destroying the water ways. SMH
Hey, I had the same situation recently in Colorado about a pump shorting me. I filed a complaint online with the state and the next day got a call from the department official who went on to tell me they appreciate the input and now this station on a "short list" meaning they are going to be checked regularly.
I'm Canadian. I've been hassled enough being here. My plan is to return to Canada fully NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS or stirring the pot. This is my mission..
thanks for the tip about the fuel pump fraud. i hope any on land or water can find a set of community resource regulations much better than the unfairness the people responsible for fuel sales in your area have allowed, etc.
It’s the same with the streets of our urban areas. Derelict vans line the streets. You think poor people on boats will pay for sewage pumping at marinas? Nope their waste is going in the water. We have a growing poverty problem in this nation and they are living on the streets, public lands and waterways. The nation is going to see more of this which is going to affect those of us who respect the rules.
I live in Jupiter and can honestly say that the most beautiful boating locations are up here - away from all the man made concrete and steel. I've been out in the bay of Miami and it was not for me at all. The best boating I've experienced is Stuart, FL. There are lots of gorgeous unmaned islands and a giant sand bar where you will always find dozens of other boats lined up.
Planning on leaving Florida after almost 3 decades. Sailing both boats up to a different state that appreciates workers and allows liveaboards. Florida has gotten greedy, hateful and doesn't appreciate their labor force.
In key largo at the jewfish creek bridge there are several liveaboard boats tied to the mangroves without power anchored with room air-conditioners. Monroe county does not seem to care. there are also derelict half sunken boats in the area. drive down US1 and you will see some of them. Drive to Gilberts and the blackwater Siren and you will see many more. some of these boats are actually in hurricane holes and they sit for years. to use the dinky dock you must be friends with the ramp owner. launching a power boat is 50 dollars.
It would be nice if some space was saved for cruisers who are only going to be around long enough to see some sights and to provision. Quite often, the popular spots are full or nearly full and anchoring, in high congestion areas, is always risky unless someone stays onboard.
It would be nice to see you interview people who live on boats in the area. Put a face on the invisible people that some may have misconceptions about. Share the video with local and state news orgs. You can make a difference that way i believe. Thanks for this video.
It is unfortunate that many municipalities are acting to restrict anchoring, (This is happening in places like Sausalito, CA) But, from what I observed at Key West, I can't say that I blame them. There are so many derelicts anchored permanently around Key West that it is virtually impossible for a cruiser to find a spot. Fantastically, Key West provides free moorings forever. The moorings as well are unavailable to cruisers passing through. The mooring field is full of derelicts. The derelicts are a general hazard to navigation as their rotten ground tackle often fail, causing the derelicts to cut loose. There's also a sanitary aspect as I suspect that many, many derelicts are direct discharging fecal matter into coastal waters. Perhaps a compromise would be allowing anchoring for 30-45 days, and require vessel inspections. Captains should be required to prove that their vessel is navigable and present servicable ground tackle. But all this would necessitate the hiring of marine peace officers.
Those "5 gallon" cans you have are actually 6 gallons mol. If you put 5 gallons in a 6 gallon can you then have room for expansion, and then you don't have fuel all over your decks. Read the labels on your cans, I think you will find I am right.
The fact is, there are FAR too many boaters who squat. You know who I am talking about. The barnacles who muck up the area with their dilapidated boats. They screw it up for everyone else.
It's a two way street with this sort of game. I was wrapped up in a floating boat problem up in Joisey once upon a time. It didn't end up too pretty. I was able to get out from under the consequences that were being set in place by the NJ Marine State Police though. It WAS my vessel in the past. Got a wrist slap for what took place. Sailing EV, if we can connect via a more direct way, I'll give you the fuller version. Best
Bums are everywhere so don’t feel to bad about it in Florida. Boats, campers or tents they aren’t too particular how or where they manage to find a comfy spot. Meanwhile some non-wealthy boater with a modest boat wants to drop anchor in a snooty area gets harassed what do you expect. My boating experience got me close to many yachtsman in New England and it wasn’t a warm and fuzzy time. However, what I know about Miami it might be worse there.
I am recreational boater.. Is easy to say, is rich folks don't want to see the poor. But they haven't navigated around floating pieces of garbage,, if you have a boat, and you don't have to be rich to take some pride in your vessel at a minimum even if is a junk keeping clean and not a hazard for folks on water and on land... and thats the bigger issue, folks mainly people with substance issues taking things way to far... ruining it for everyone else...
You overlooked the sewage pump out that gets dumped into that beautiful bay and anchors that aren't tethered to a ball just like you did, just drop anchor (where sea grass used to thrive). Also, sure the soap bought (if any) isn't biodegradable. Just bay salt soaked grease rinse over the side. Glad to see the free drop a loaders vacated.
While I dont agree with regulations against peoples lifestyle choices and how to live their lives leaving boats unattended for more then 5 months of movements are going to be a problem eventually. They have to be used and moved around. Sort of like RVS have a No more then 45 days of stay is good for free Then you move. Thats not a bad deal..But its also not a good deal to have to go to these hidden out of the way gasoline stations for gas to avoid a ticket. That should not be a issue. Everyone should be able to go to an gas station as they need.
Again this is about them catering to the rich. There are a dozen marinas you can get gas at without even leaving your boat. For double the price of a land based gas station.
There have always been people living on boats. They are just mad they are not sucking enough money from them. Not just Florida. just finding a legal way to kick people out.
When did millions of tons of steel and concrete perched on a waterway or beach become more appealing or better in any way opposed to a boat floating on the water ? Even if it’s an older boat !
Because they own the property. You just sound jelly. What if a bunch of van livers pulled in the park next door to your house and decided to take up residence and act a fool?
@@finscreenname I live in Florida slick , I own plenty of property . I also know this becomes more of a problem the more “Karen’s” male and female come here from other states. They complain about sharks , gators , snakes etc too 😂
@@JL-cn6nh First off I'm not your "slick" and also I don't live in your state. But we have the same issue where I live. I don't have waterfront but I do have plenty of properties and I wouldn't want it to happen to any of them. And I sure as hell dont want to have to wade through a homeless encampment every time I go to the boat ramp.
@@finscreenname It gets into the darker side of human nature also as in petty meanspirited . . ness , as on east coast of Australia posh beach front property residents were affronted by overseas backpackers in vans (few years back fruit pickers etc on farms doing work ozzies turned nose up at) . . taking a break & parked overnight in beach carparks . . enjoying the same views as they for (((FREE))) . . humans are c_nts basically
The deralic boat are a problem but just enforce license on boats .
As a native Floridian, I can safely say this has happened for over 30 years in Florida. The issue is that the top 0.05% of the money in South Florida does not want the "little people" to be able to benefit from access in any way. They believe that the area is theirs and theirs alone. They believe that they should be able to come and go with their $10,000,000.00+ yachts without having to seethe "Scraps"
The super rich over here in SRQ bitch all the time..
Oh, I didn't pay 5 million dollars for my house so people can live for free in the bay.
They try to say that we are dumping our blackwater in the bay, causing the red tides.. Yeah, they try to say it's our fault we have red tides..
I live in palm beach county and when you go over the bridge onto the island the police look for many reasons to pull you over. I don’t know how bad the rules are for boats but unless you’re driving a car that’s over 100k they will keep their eyes on you. There are some decent people there but many are a-holes.
@@EMan-cu5zoWe visited recently and wondered about this. We were definitely driving the humblest car there. 😅
@@oneamericanpatriot108 well I can hardly side with either of the groups the extremely rich or the extremely poor. I don't think it would be a good idea to have boat life like they have in Asia where everybody is in a boat they're bumping into each other constantly and every so often they make enough space to take a dump into the water. So if you let these people show up here just floating and don't make them follow any rules you're basically going to have sewage and nobody can enjoy it. You have people living under a bridge and they keep taking a dump where they live there's four or five hundred people dumping a loaf there every day and the next thing you know the system takes care of itself and they all get sick. same thing here if you want to point at the ridge and complain about the ridge of the rich rich rich rich rich rich rich. Well the problem is if we let all those poor people float on anything down there and promise to get a toilet someday it's going to be completely full of excrement and there won't be any fish or wildlife or anything we're seeing there for a long time.
PLENTY of SPACE FOR HOMELESS DRUG ADDICTS
CIty commissioners have 100 LAWYERS fighting for more addicts to rob from local residents and create havoc for taxpayers in once beautiful parks.
Somehow their 24 hour party , fires, smoke, pot smoking stink, open latrines, and fenty does not bother the birds. But a SAILBOAT
OMG, the birds will all die
Unless of course, you are a drug addict, and buying drugs from city commissioners
You should report that Valero gas station to the authorities. Ripping off customers with an improperly calibrated fuel pump is a felony.
It may be a case of him overfilling the can? They do hold more than 5gal in a lot of cases unless the pump is not calibrated correctly? Who knows.
@@gobfranklin6759 overfilling won't get you more than a half a gallon. So even if he filled both to the very brim (and he did point out that he stopped at the 5gal line) there would still have been more than a single gallon in that can.
That station is deliberately ripping people off. Also, the PRICES! Holy crap! That owner is a straight up THIEF.
@@Wearyman Wonder what the owner looks like considering all the other gas stations that aren't part of a major franchise have a particular demographic.
@@Wearyman Good points.
Funny, that part has not changed in Miami Beach, gas stations there always were for suckers.
They don’t like people living for free. Has nothing to do with crime
Agreed 100% battle between the haves and have nots we are just a people that chose a life at sea 🌊 Mariners and sailors..
Nah, they just don't like the type of people doing so.
... Living for free isn't a boat on the ocean.
Who wants to anchor next to a boat that is falling apart, and looks like trash all over the deck?
@@sena2fishing ur paying for your own shit not some bank or real estate goon. The real estate goons run Florida
As a boater, I hate to say it, but there are a very few people out there who ruin things for the rest of us. Not saying there aren't stuck ups in the rich neighborhoods and towns who think they own the world but there are some boats and people who shouldn't be out there because they are a danger to themselves and others.
I have a friend who used to be a "live aboard" off Coconut Grove. So it makes me see this issue in a nuanced way. It seems like it's harder and harder for people with limited means to get by. 😢
There always seem to be people that want to live in really expensive areas they can't really afford
Absolutely. However there is a tradition of Mariners that goes back to the founding if Miami. It seems like the city will cut off its own foot with ANA'S Not everyone out here is doing harm. We just wish to live and sail free.
@@sailingEV888 right, you just want to hit a port along the way, take on food and fuel and be on your way. Unfortunately the live aboard in a decrepit boat is a minority of owners, but persistent enough right in the residents faces to change everyone's opinion of boat people that don't dock or trailer. One stolen 10 horse outboard can change a neutral to an opponent for life if the thief took off in a RIB
If you go to a place overseas where a lot of poor people go on boats you will find the waters surrounding those boats to be full of diseases. Then there's some pathetic slob like you that thinks making it illegal for people to live on a boat and s*** in the water all day is somehow making it hard for the poor to get by? If you let them just dump raw sewage, it will be hard for everybody to stay alive and enjoy the water
It’s been that way since biblical times… life ain’t fair ..Nor is the world…it never will be fair…so tell em to go get a job…put some folding money in yer pocket and the world becomes nicer….
Derelict boats becoming floating RV parks is ruining it for responsible cruising boats. Easiest solution is to limit a particular anchorage to 14 days before requiring more than 5 miles away. These derelict boats are environmental hazards and safety hazards to responsible, seaworthy vessels nearby.
Thanks Karen.
@@RogerKomula-kl9lbIs that your response when you have no argument? Just call someone a Karen?
Pure politics. Getting a few votes from the rich on the backs of poor people that own property that they cannot tax. But they have NO PROBLEM with homeless camps. Probably because they are selling them the drugs/ Why doesnt the city help them with grants to fix their vessels. No, instead they SPEND A FORTUNE kicking people out of their homes. Everyone else gets free money and grants.
I think it's a great reply. What other word would you use for over entitled rich people?
I live in St Augustine and I wouldn’t keep a boat anywhere outside a marina for any period of time if you want to keep your winches, electronics, rigging, etcetera. Unfortunately a significant number of meth head goons living on the hook in derelict immobile vessels (way worse since Covid) clearly have ruined it for the rest of the sailing community. Add to that dismasted boats sinking adjacent to the water way, with their rigging just below the waterline at high tide just waiting to sink someone. The county is not doing nearly enough about it. Someone is going to get seriously hurt. I’m all for visitors and travelers enjoying their rights to our waterways, but floating tent cities full of thieves and creating submerged unmarked hazards, and contaminating the river with black water and fuel indiscriminately has to end. The number of used syringes I’ve cleaned up on the beach used by a youth sailing program adjacent to one of the common anchorages is unacceptable evidence of what I’m talking about.
I disagree. Maybe those meth heads are just living with trauma in there lives and had to escape to sea.. (I have not seen a meth head ever) .. just men mis understood.. Living free away from tyranny. I don't get any meth head vibes from any of these Men. These people are traditional Mariners they are just trying to live with what they have free from the BS on the internet and cable news..
That's method up
A few people ruining it for the rest that follow the rules even if they are unwritten. A free mooring ball maintained by the city isn’t and never was meant to be a permanent place to keep your boat. It’s for transient boaters to spend a week a month etc. it’s the honor system. Spend some time there and move on. I don’t care how nice your boat is or isn’t how rich you are or aren’t. It’s not permanent mooring. So now because of a few floating junkyards basically squatting on a free morning it’s going to ruin it for everyone else. Boats on a public mooring should absolutely be required to operate under their own power. Boats are expensive if you can’t maintain it and have permanent storage don’t own it.
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Rich Folks Ruling Poor Folks.
No Shame!
Here in Alberta, we are only allowed to camp for free on Crown land up to 14 days after that you must relocate and you’re good again for another 14 days. It’s no big deal and it makes sense.
Yeah I think 45 days is too much for many areas. We want to keep it as free as possible but there is a hippie boat movement that youtube kinda got started. Its the source of a lot of the problems. People with just enough money to get a barely floating boat, and not enough money to fix it. People with not enough money to take care of themselves, can't afford a mooring ball much less a marina. Not saying you need either but if you can't move your boat onto the dry, into a slip, or fire up the motor reliably to leave then when we get a hurricane those boats end up on the bottom, in the mangroves, on the rocks, crashed up against bridges, ect. And those people learn it cost more to retrieve the boats than the boat is worth, or more than they have and leave them right where they are. They become an environmental hazard, navigation hazard, and are even uglier to look at than when they were floating. The taxpayer pays to remove them. The way Florida law works with derelict vessels there is little incentive to try to clean up your mess and some boats that can possibly be rescued by people with means can't because unless the owner signs it to you there is no salvage law that will allow you to legally take possession. I have seen very nice, easily salvageable sailing and power yachts left to rot when someone like me would have definitely saved them. One close by me has probably a few thousand dollars of scrap metal on the deck alone.
Nobody care's about canada ......
Canadas socialist, here in America its all about freedom.
the crown wtf communist mofo to the north of us canada sucks
@@gkrebs6636 we're gonna close the northern border too.
San Diego California
got out of control with junk unseaworthy boats as well. The port kicked everyone out and installed moorings that they charge by the month for. The boats need to get a safety inspection by the Coast Guard before you are allowed to lease them. They also require a yearly inspection.
Thats regulation and as a republican I am against this!
Yepper...chaos is best@@boristheamerican2938
@@boristheamerican2938Republicans become down with the regulation as soon as the riff raff shows up. Why do you think Florida cities don't look like California cities with tranq zombies everywhere?
So if you are just passing through and need to anchor overnight, go ashore and buy supplies, how does that work?
@@wahid-lg1kk Here in So Cal we have 24 hour temp moorings, or slips, for that exact purpose. We also have several places where you can anchor near facilities and shop at the fuel stations, or the Chandelery, and food mkt. I never have had a problem if I called ahead to harbor master, or took a short term rent on a mooring at Catalina, or Channels Islands where most of my ocean sailing is.
There are so many abandoned and trash boats all around Miami and Miami Beach. It's awful.
Pure politics. Getting a few votes from the rich on the backs of poor people that own property that they cannot tax. But they have NO PROBLEM with homeless camps. Probably because they are selling them the drugs/ Why doesnt the city help them with grants to fix their vessels. No, instead they SPEND A FORTUNE kicking people out of their homes. Everyone else gets free money and grants.
Getting rid of abandoned vessels is different than towing away someone's home
The derelict boats are the problem and with people living on them the problem gets worse . Usually without holding tanks they pump their sewage straight into the bay . The real sailors who maintain their boats properly and are respectful of the ocean end up with fewer and fewer places to anchor . Free anchorages will soon become a thing of the past .
Sad but true. It's pur responsibility to take care. I promise to do my part and I try..
The other problem is when spend comme they lace their boats and then they sink. It become a hazards to other boaters and the tax players.
Public seawalls are owned by the people, not the not the rich. SO address it individually. Its not right to prevent people from getting food. Pure politics. Getting a few votes from the rich on the backs of poor people that own property that they cannot tax. But they have NO PROBLEM with homeless camps. Probably because they are selling them the drugs/ Why doesnt the city help them with grants to fix their vessels. No, instead they SPEND A FORTUNE kicking people out of their homes. Everyone else gets free money and grants.
Totally agree
Where does their sewerage go?
Where does their food scraps go?
Where does their garbage go?
In the water silly goose, what do you think, does the garbage fairy come around and just pick it up. Bottom line is for every decent responsible boater there are 50 scum bags who life like pigs and do not car what damage they cause to the earth.
Like in every other country on earth !
Most of the have dinghies and go to shore. The new laws make it so they have to go further out to where they will HAVE to dump all this stuff into the water.
Why not go after those nasty folks and let the responsable folks just do thr thing. Ohhh cause they want the shore to them selfs
It's called pumpouts, throw the trash in a dinghy and take it to the nearest trash bin, and the crabs eat the scraps. And Stakeholders don't own the water, the State does. Period.
The real issue is when storms come in and the boats break off there mooring and hit boats in the marina/clubs/homes and the owners have no insurance or funds to repair damage caused by their property. I am a member at a club where your video started and this happen to me a few years back. My boat was damaged and the owner of the boat that broke loose had no insurance or funds to pay my repairs. So I got stuck with the bill. There has to be a limit on the boats moored and they should pass laws to have a minimum of PIP insurance. If the boat doesn’t have a valid registration they should be removed all together from any waterway. This is a real issue and the transit boater will be affected must once laws are in place. Also it’s starting to affect the keys which needs to be stopped before it becomes an issue like in south Florida.
I agree with you
Do you think it would be better for these people to be homeless out in the elements? I myself was disabled from a Refinery chemical release so I live on my boat because I have no income and it's the cheapest way for me to survive. Not to mention I have life-threatening reactions to Everyday chemicals so I can't live in any existing buildings or with anybody at all. What was I supposed to do? I'm asking because everybody commenting seems to have all the answers
The instant you mandate insurance insurance rates. Increase by several orders of magnitude. Many can't get insurance because they have to come up with thousands to get the boat surveyed then it is only 250 a year for liability insurance but $5000 for haul out survey and then any repair deemed to be needed so yeah let's move these people off the boats and under the bridges, then we can make sleeping on public property illegal and spend millions more jailing these people talk about penny wise and dollar wasteful.
If a storm rips my boat off of its moorings and damages your boat my insurance company is going to claim act of God and fuck you over in the proverbial snow there buckwheat.
What you didn't have insurance on your boat ?
Somebody else should pay for the damage of your neglect ?
You believe those with money should have the ability to violate the rights of poor..
Then we should destroy the currency and put the shoe on the other foot
You should definitely call whatever state agency is in charge of gasoline weights and measuring. Kind of an ironic turn having to utilize a state agency to right a wrong.
I had a similar thing happen years ago when my Chevy Metro with a 7.8 gallon tank suddenly took over 10 gallons to fill up. I called and reported the station and they eventually got closed after several large fines for repeatedly doing the same thing. In my state (Washington), and other I am sure, they actually have unmarked cars with dummy measuring tanks that they use to check the rate at gas stations. The stations don't even know they are being checked. Still it is an understaffed part of the state government and they do depend on tips to know who they should be checking.
Yep there's a sticker on that pump with the date that it was checked (calibrated) and stickered/dated as such.
Phone number* is on the sticker. If sticker is GONE, go to ANY other gas/fuel pump to get the phone nunber.
If the sticker is missing, that's their first violation.
REPORT THEM.
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*It's actually called "weights & measures" so good call, really good call!
State inspects and regulates gas pumps. They'd love to hear about those pumps. Big fines!
Many boat gas pumps get ripped off by the boaters. I've seen people using the old pumps just flip and restart over and over and fill up with 10$
I live in South Florida, and the problem got really bad after Covid. It seems to have gotten worse with the derelict boats and the junk boats everywhere. Then when people decide they’re gonna abandon them, they pull the decals and the Vin number off so it can’t be traced back to them. They abandoned them they sink and the state has to pay to get them out and it seems like a lot of riffraff around Miami and Coconut Grove on those boats, that’s why people don’t want them around
Thats so smart, make the public clean up your mess. They have learned from the corporations.
Those sunk boats are good structure for fish to gather around so good for fishing 😂
@@serggla924 No, they still have fuel and oil onboard. The engines and tanks, among other things, need to be stripped first.
@@Steve-ev6vx with the amount of pollution produced worldwide by all the manufacturing plants/facilities this is nothing but a drop in an ocean, literally
@@serggla924 no they still have fuel and oils cleaning supplies and people’s stuff in them not good for the marine environment plus it’s a navigation hazard
Awesome video! Keep them coming! Working on my boat north Florida getting her ready for Bimini! Your videos inspire
I served on the Miami Beach Marine Authority for many years. It all boils down to the gentrification of the coast line. The rich landowners do not want their views of the water obstructed. Others are paranoid of strangers in boats being so close to their homes. Almost 100% of the shoreline from Hollywood, Florida, down to Key Largo is now off limits to anyone going onhore with a dinghy. Years ago, there were areas where you could dinghy ashore and go shopping, etc. That's all gone now.
The anchorage’s in southern Florida turn into trailer parks on the water without heavy enforcement.
That's true. Got to be a middle ground. A screening process maybe. Maybe a check in process where you can determine cruisers and locals setting up shop on barely floating vessels.
Unfortunately, it’s the only affordable housing in the area. It’s pretty normal to see people living on a boat that hasn’t moved under its own power in years and is just a floating apartment. My advice for Mike is to watch his back. Those are pirate waters.
@ozarksailor2714 True but leaving South Florida should be the goal. South Florida is where I grew up. I doubt my quality of life would be what it is now if I tried to stay. I left with nothing but my car, clothes and the hope to find some work. It worked out. Knowing what I know now, I would have done it even easier today despite it being more expensive overall.
@@adamtedder1012 from what I’ve gathered the fwc is regularly boarding and checking boats in the more popular anchorage’s trying to keep the riffraff out.
Yup. Too many “existaboards” who on land would be living under a bridge have ruined many places for the rest of us.
This is an issue that was approached some years ago well before Desantis was governor. (just to give a time perspective) Its not new This issue was that there are (or were) THOUSANDS maybe tens of thousands of boats essentially abandoned on the various waterways all around Florida. Some had people living on them defecating into the water, washing clothes in the water. walking around naked playing loud music etc. People basically living in a tent a mere few feet from your home.(not a mansion just a normal house) If you want to live like that go to California etc where they not only support that lifestyle they embrace it! These boats wee not sailing or traveling it is a tenement on the water feet from your home.
The bigger issue is hundreds boats that were simply rotting away, their owners died, or simply abandoned them. Repairs to make them "seaworthy' again far exceeded the value of boat when it was new much less in its current state.
This is the heart of the problem. Envy is not the issue. Tax money is not the issue the "muh freedom" derp is not the issue. So the solution will be ( unfortunately) Paid moorings and short terms on those moorings. So the boats don't pile up, get abandoned and and rot away becoming someone elses problem.
If you are going to be away for an extended time. Haul the boat and put it on the hard. ( its better for the boat any way.)
Which waterfront home is yours? We really want to know.
@@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958 WTF is wrong with you?
Yep.
Saved me a lot of typing!
Every word you said is true 👍
Hey there junior red states already send their poor undereducated people to California that's why Cali has such a homelessness problem.
The pink one
Blame the boaters for not policing themselves. Living in coastal Fla, we see the issue. Just homeless camps on the water. A lot of them end up washed onshore after a storm, leaving the taxpayers to haul their crap off. Plus, they have no insurance for any damages!😡
True. However, there are respectful Mariners out here. We need to take care. This issue will play out in years to come..
Will you start the petition to deputize me? I have my own firearms, and we don't even need to get a permit to CC anymore.
So true
Really? You're going to cry about taxpayers cleaning up after a disaster? Hahaha.
They just lost their boat!
That’s a stupid statement. Boaters can’t arbitrarily police other boaters without legal authority. Even if they were granted the legal framework to do so, there would be violent confrontations and time/effort expense involved. Why would the legitimate cruisers do that? That’s why we have professional law enforcement.
The problem is the pirates and the boat that are illegal
As a lifelong Floridian born and raised in Miami. I now live in North Florida. The Anchorage and long time,, mooring balls, living in a designated Anchorage area. I believe all vessels will need to be fully insured, the derelict and sinking of these vessels, ends up being the burden of the taxpayers of the city and state. Wind up having to remove these at our cost. This is what created this special type of legislation in the first place. We have too many derelict and sunken boats all over the state that has created a massive environmental problem, navigational problems. All these costs fall back on the taxpayers of Florida. Has the taxpayer here in the State of Florida and someone who truly enjoys all the outdoors recreation that has to offer, I don't think I should have to pay for somebody else's poor seamanship skills, and there inability to acquire insurance for their vessel.
Not to mention contaminating our beautiful earth.
The government does not like seeing a free person!
It's not the government, this is the elite HOA types. Asses that spend far to much time worrying about what others are doing.
100%. They fear if people all start checking out.
That’s a fact
And they want more and more taxes and more and more control
Freemasons/government (same thing). Everything is trash, and somehow government still finds people to work for them
Fascism and slavery is all that is legal
I have no dog in the fight because I neither live in Florida nor do i cruise anymore.
But if you are incensed by this ask yourself this question. Why would anyone in south Florida want you to be there?
It's not like you add anything to the economy. No fuel purchases, no mooring ball purchases, force bridge openings disrupting traffic, dinghy to shore to use free facilities, minimal restaurant visits etc.
Many do anything they can to not even get their waste tanks pumped.
Look at all the vessels with the yellow fuel tanks on the deck just to get an understanding. And 1 guess as to which country they are mostly from.
Its all take and no give. The Bahamas figured this out and at least charges $300 or $600 balance it out a bit.
Cry me a river but until you become a valuable and welcome contributor to the local economy and not just a mooch then this is what you get.
your freemason government is trash and you are basing your reasoning off of it
Buys 5 gallons of gas. Puts 6 bags of trash in the dumpster Gets a hundred gallons of water from the hose, uses the bathroom and leaves.
......What the hell is wrong with you? Marking sailors who love the easer & peaceful lifestyle...Nothing else to do with your free time?... ...Sailor & Artist, Old Naples Florida🌴🎨 Paradise Coast🌊
@@ozarksailor2714 - You Dumpster Commandos are all alike...Nothing else to do but watch other people...Get yourself a job in Walmart & bust poor people for taking food... ...Old Naples Florida 🌴🎨
@@ozarksailor2714 -- And that impacts you personally . . . how?
Watch your dingy like a hawk, in fact do not take your eye off it day or night in this area.
They have been fighting about bum boats and cruisers anchoring since I lived there in the 80’s..
Living on water and dumping sewage is awful, people used to swim there but dang if I would get in the water
The fish eat it! What about all the sunken boats Military ships with munitions and fuel and and other pollutants? Bums did that?
Not a bum or bomb and don't have to be around either
All the sewage from Miami ends up in the sea anyway.
I'm surprised that you didn't immediately call the state regulators when your pump delivered less than 15 gallons, it seems off by about 5%.
You take pictures of the pump and your containers and send them too.
Violations cost them money. And force them to repair their pumps.
Question:
What is the capacity of your yellow diesel cans? When I first got mine, I bumped into the same issue. Puzzled, I read the side of the cans: Capacity - 6 US Gallons. Red gasoline cans are 5 US Gals.
I purchased these cans from home depot in Vero Beach. 100% new cans 5 gallons. Machine said 14.7 it pumped maybe 12 gallons. It's odd. Some one needs to go fill up and measure..
The water quality around BLOW BOATERS is polluted with human waste.Yep,they dump their holding tanks.
Rich stink-boaters never pump their blackwater into the harbor instead of burning $60 worth of gas to go to the nearest pump-out station. Even if that were true, one stink-boater dumps more oil and gas into the water than a hundred blow-boaters... and let's not even talk about the air pollution... and noise pollution. And what about little stink-powered jon-boats? Where do you suppose those fishermen empty their bladders? Why do most of them seem to carry black buckets that always come home empty?
Really well in a recent report where police raided a number of boats only one seemed flush overboard they did their tests by flushing due through the toilets.
Ain't done with you yet pumpkin how many blow boats are there in Biscayne bay a thousand live abroad 2000 how many it they all flush overboard would they put anywhere near as mush sewage into the water that the wastewater treatment plants dump ? Or as much feces as rain washes down storm sewers from the cities dogs please most of these people get pumped out and some have composting toilets instead of wasting millions trying to prevent these people from living aboard maybe free pump outs at all marinas or a pump out service boat for live aboard's that need it,? It will save money in the long run.
@@edwardmyers8782 really well,that is coming from you,so,really well.
Soooooo y not go after those folks instead of everyone...... ohhhh ya that mite make the situation better cant have that....they just think its their shore...
Enjoyed boating in Miami very much back in the 90’s, however after 911 that city lost its mojo, the cool people left and the barbarians moved in. Now it’s just low class on money, sad thing really.
Did anyone notice I got ripped off? That gas station sold me 15 gallon s of diesel I only got 12!! WtF!? The people of Miami beach are being ripped off! The gas station is scam! Typically Miami beach I guess! IM OUTA HERE!! BAHAMAS BOUND!
@@sailingEV888 doubt it.
@@sailingEV888look up the number and report the station.
Everyone would be floored if they saw what’s going on both sides of the highway entering into key west. There are at least 100 homeless pirates living in dinghies in and around key west.⛵️
We're not homeless. You try living down here with rent being $1600 a month for a ROOM. You have to have 2 full time jobs to live down here. It's cheaper to live on a boat.
@@wingers69 ahh…. I do live down here.
The anchorages are so full of vessels that obviously haven’t moved in a long long time that visitors have little if any place to anchor. We’ve stopped going to KW as a result. It is a mess. I understand both sides of the issue so idk what to about it. Bigger controlling govt doesn’t sound right but people will take advantage of the system and ruin it for everyone otherwise.
@@loadedfun4764 liveaboards aren't the same as being homeless.
You pay no property taxes, and a self described "bum"..... so I wouldn't expect the City politicians to cater to your needs.
Because we are all slaves. The government wants us all to be paying them for whatever. Or else.
Much like the policia and their ubiquitous "to protect and to serve" claims on their cruisers but they always leave off the more salient part "the wealthy and the propertied class". :(
There are no bums in Australia . . everyone is getting fleeced with the goods & services tax aka all a taxpayer . . whether you work or not . . from the cradle to the grave . . it all started around 1970 ish . . when Australia woke up one morning to discover the coat of arms changed & Australia had become a company registered in the district of Columbia Washington US aka a C_A quiet coup
lmao
Pay no fucking taxes except when you buy the boat and every year you register the boat, and on every dollar I've ever earned in my fucking life, or anything I buy from stores no I'm paying no taxes at all, no taxes at all. Meanwhile rich landowners that undervalue their property to dodge tax are getting $200,000,000, from Florida to offset the cost of hurricane insurance.
They can't have you living property tax free. You are putting nothing into the system. And they can't keep jacking up your taxes.
Teirny. The elites have spoken! Do not anchor infront of my home! I don't want you looking in! What are they hiding!? I was anchored ⚓️ in the venetian Islands for 30 mins and a police officer asked me to leave! I'm not spying! I was anchored for SAFETY purposes. WtF? I was wondering if I would drag ⚓️! The only shelter was the venetian fingers. Makes no sense..
@@sailingEV888It really shows that the police only exist to cater to the wealthy and keep the poors out of sight and out of mind.
@@sailingEV888 Boat bums do pay State tax on anything they purchase.
@@sentenced2sail Called the goods and services tax in Australia . . everyone here is a tax payer getting hauled over the coals , no freeloaders
Financial responsibility should be enforced upon every individual whether seaman or on land. Leaving a boat that may cause damage to a person or state without insurance or financial proof of payment is unfair to everyone. I don't like to make insurance companies rich or to have excessive laws but when people allow lower nature and negligence become an expense to others something needs to be done. We are better than a third world country.
Great video ! Thank you for sharing the gas station tip down Miami River 😉
What happens is the "bum boats" become hazards to navigation after the next big storm. Brevard County FL just cleaned up the Indian River & guess who gets to pay the bill ..
I can understand their concern for boats in disrepair. There should be a system for logging who is in the anchorage and how long they have been there so there is room for new boats coming in to stage for the trip to the Bahamas. I think they are killing income for the city by banning these transient boats.
This is AMERICA! no one cares! From the perspective of a Canadian... Rich people dont want Canadian cruisers looking into there windows! That's what this is about!
I live in St Pete and the boat bums are fucking bad ,shit in the bay every am who would like that?
Here in the Keys, we give our boat bums a type of doggy bags, for when nature calls.
Sovereign man and civilized society will always be battling and will never agree on living.
Sailors are notoriously the cheapest, no crowbar can open their wallet demographic on the water. Sure, there are plenty of sailors spending $$$ in Hylas63's and penny pincher powerboaters, but when you see a loner dude in a 1978 Catalina 30 with original sails, expect nothing.
because he has nothing.
You got that right, hate to stereotype but from personal experience most sailors are cheapskates 🤔
Well sailboat racers not so much . . .
Cheers mate this us a truth vlog. I love Catalina but EV is a 1979 Sceptre 36 build in BC Canada. She has pulled her weight and got me thru hell.. I love this vessel..
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Times are gone when the abundant middle class could live on the Miami shoreline and while others could afford a nice sailboat and look after it in the bay. The middle class has grown much fewer in number while the very rich and very poor have increased in number. America no longer has the opportunity for a good living as it had decades ago. Government politicians are incapable of sustaining a healthy economic balance, but instead have let the economy go to ruin. It's a shame. The USA was the peak of human civilization until the government messed with it.
Blame the banning of new canal communities. Used to be developers would just dredge 5 miles of canals and create another 500 new waterfront lots. At that time living on the water was only 10% more than living on land nearby. But once the canal ban went into place, the prices of waterfront property skyrocketed. Now you'll see an EMPTY LOT with sailboat access sell for over a million, while an empty lot across the street that's landlocked might be $150k.
You get what you voted for. Now enjoy Brandon and his Gang.....
@@firetom911exactly
@07:28 what are you dumping out of your diesel can into the water?
I think short term......one week or less would be enough time to provision and take a few days to rest would be fair......the long term stuff just brings in the riff Raff.
Honestly would you like people sleeping in cars in the public parking right next to your private property and within walking or swimming distance? Where do they throw out the trash if its a problem to come to shore and where do they refill water supply and dump sewage? Oh yeah thats right 200 feet from my dock so i can see all of it um brother i lived both lives on the water and on land but these people are absolutely within disturbing and video recording distance.. What if a pedo is living on the water next to my home skirting the law because hes/shes on water so yeah im with miami beach "phuc off" and live outside the bay like maybe tie to a Buoy about a mile away from civilization is more appropriate. I never anchored in-bay always out-bay so i feel nothing when i say what i said.. Its principle 👍
We all have to be responsible boater's you can't leave your junk in someones back yard and think that's cool
Hrmm what if that "junk" was somebody's home on water...... Not all are abandoned "junk" in your backyard, you sound like one of those rich people complaining about the boats....
@@SuperCitizen I hv seen boats haven't move or attended to from before convid.
@@SuperCitizen u woke people thinks that rich people shouldn't have right's however im a poor fisher man that live here and these boats are falling apart leaking toxics into the water way.
@@jeffcee9457 the solution isn't a broad one remove the direlec boats but your also restricting boaters who live full time on the waterway. Btw I'm not rich and we have same.problem in ft.myers bay
@@jeffcee9457 I'm also not Woke I think for myself
Super disapointing is what that is. I anchored in Biscayne Bay for 4 days coming up from the Keys. I understand not wanting derelict boats anchored about but come on! Headed to FL in the next couple months to put my boat back in the water and hopefully get her the hell out of Florida all together. Fair winds sir!
This is south Florida. Not all of Florida is so unfriendly. Anywhere the rich have waterfront they will do this. Same happened in California.
To many people took advantage of a good opportunity now people have to pay the price
Call me pessimistic, I've already seen too much. I spent time in Hollywood North Lake, Lake Sylvia, and lived in South Beach, and Miami. The rich people don't want to see the poors. Florida is leading the way in criminalizing anyone not making 6 figures. This is a front in that war. I anticipate cruising will exclude more and more of Florida, and specifically the South. Crossing to The Bahamas from West Palm, Port Everglades, or No Name will become a thing of the past. West Palm Beach will become the new demarcation. You can expect many other places to follow.
I go down so will they
People have always hated their fellow man.
Raised in West Palm Beach. It was on the Outskirts, Far West st the time. Was there in 2014; I see the Wealthy Devouring South Florida. Making it Suck.
That is truer than most realize & at core of current global problems stemming from push to globalism ideology false path which is against human nature & the critter kingdom also , came across this phenomena when researching yabby farming in Australia (fresh water crays) . . the water in farm ponds has to be turbid as in cloudy or else if clear the males can see each other across the way & spend all their time fighting with each other & not putting on weight for the table . . I believe this applies to humans & the internet is causing endless stress to an extent & squabbles
Tragedy of the commons, nobody was concerned about people anchoring short term, but legitimate cruisers got caught up in the attempt to run off the derelict boats dumping sewage overboard
I live in North Carolina and here in Brunswick county you cant anchor anywhere for more than 10 days then you must leave the county.
Whoa WTF? You can't anchor your boat and go ashore in Miami? That's friggin insane.
That's the brave new world ol chap. Welcome. 😂🎉
@@SailingSarah#newworldorder.
The problem started 5 years ago in Seattle. These homeless have found they can get these boats at the recycle yards for free OR they find some idiot that took on a project boat that got out of control and snatch that for free. These boats have leaking holding tanks (sewer, black tank) generally no operational water tank(s) and incredibly unsafe cooking setups (they catch fire a lot).
All their sewage goes directly into the water because of leaking tank or NONE OF THEM can afford a pump out service and then you and your kids swim in it. SMH disgusting people, so disgusting!
People abandon boats all the time, then people squat on them, it becomes really gross
Eat the Rich. Are you sure they abandon those things?
We use to have a squatter living next to our property here in Texas but I gave him plenty of grief over and over and finally the neighbors started the same and the creep moved on.
Looks like your living a great life beats working well done.great vid. Inspiring.
I love the way you asked for patronage. You got class.
u called the florida department of standerds and messurments right their 800 number is on the pump they are required by law to test and make sure those pumps pump exactly the amount you pay for call the number and report the station
might be due to garbage in the water. and raw sewage in the water.
Just found your channel. Great sailing content. Thanks, living vicariously through you. 😂
Working everyday to untie. And sail away
Rich people are like politicians. Do as i say. Not as i do. Have to dictate their will on others.
I concur
There are always some people who want to remove other people and limit their opportunities!
More often than not, it's those with the most money who want some other people removed!
It was weird. I was told by an old salt to weather a storm in the venetian Islands. I anchored there in good weather and was immediately removed by police. Why? I was not looking into rich peoples yards! It just felt wrong and unconstitutional. However. I'm just a snowbird from Canada leaving the USA within days. I'm just worried about our future as Mariners. America is the land of freedom. With out that the rest of the world will suffer including Canada 🇨🇦
It's everywhere you have multimillionaire properties on the water. Doesn't matter where. The city will cater to their donors and largest contributors to taxes. Sane thing happened in San Fran. Same in cities all up and down the west coast. The wealthy paid good money not to have to see us. Only boats they want to see passing their windows is Mega yachts.
Mooching off our self funded freedoms actually sucks too,
parasites in general….suck.
I live on a boat also . The attack on the living aboard is a violation of our freedom!
In my area Va.
cheap 87 octane $3.25 a gallon
Propane a gallon $1.99
Diesel a gallon around $3.60
Too much junk in the water. Blame the deadbeat club.
Thank you for the video. I am anchored at the Miami Marine Stadium and we are becoming to get harassed by the authorities as well. I can understand that because of the derelict boats and abuse of SOME of the vessel owners, the need to regulate anchorages but you can’t throw out the baby with the bath water. At least in the MMS anchorage I can assure you that the environmental impact is mostly from “weekend boaters” who come into the area and not the ones anchored there. BTW, that is not the “Miami River” those are the Miami Beach Canals. I grew up fishing those!! Smooth Seas and Fair Winds.
Recycle the bathwater at least.
My family came to Miami in 1919 my Plan B if I ever lost all my money and didn't have a place to stay was to get a small boat and anchor out but as the years have gone by I can see that as less and less possible but years ago there were a lot of places you could anchor out beside the main anchorages I think there's still a liveaboard community at Coconut Grove at dinner key but I haven't been there in 10 years. For a long time I lived on a houseboat on the Miami river W 27th Ave. where Delaware Parkway goes over the river I subscribe to your channel good luck
My concern is about the future of the liveaboard community. In years to come will they out law us? Food for thought.
I am a liveaboard over in SRQ, there are 7 of us.
On the hook, we all work, none of us are drug addicts or drunk.
Not all folks who don't want to or can't afford a 1900 a months slip, and with all the BS about getting in the MMF..
I wake up everyday at 5, row my ass ashore and go to work..
Some of us just want to save $$, not everybody who isn't in a slip is a druggie.
unfortunately the people that have been abusing this privilege have been ruining it for all of us.
Great video. If your fuel containers are 20 litre each (looks like they are) and a US gal is 3.7 L the 15 US gallons you pumped would only fill 80% of the total 60 liter capacity of the three containers.
Some people would rather see other less fortunate people live on the street and have nothing. This is nothing to do with crime
I anchored outside of No Name Harbor while waiting for good weather passage to Bahamas. Anchorage is also available across from Miami Beach municipal dock.
State of Hawaii makes you do a "Bouy run" periodically to prove your vessel isnt derelict. The main issue is that other than fines which people just ignore, there is no mechanism to remove vessels that have been at anchor for years for violations.
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Call the Dept. Of Agriculture, they are in charge of gas station pumps. Major fine for them, and ask for the rest of your fill.
If I was on MY boat on any ocean water if Anybody stepped on it uninvited that would be the LAST thing they did.
Those gas stations are supposed to be regulated but nope! I remember putting 12 gallons into my 10 gallon car tank. When I co fronted the manager he just shrugged. He was in on it.
This is WHY… it started in Seattle and has spread east. Homeless commandeer boats that barely float and make it their homeless camp which seems to be a “recycled home” and a good thing BUT there is some very serious problems with it.
1. No working black tank (sewage) so it goes directly into the water…. Massive environmental problems.
2. No money to have working black tanks pumped out so it gets dumped directly into the water.
3. They sink very often and that’s not only an environmental disaster but the state has to pay 6 figure money per boat to have them removed.
It’s ironic that these are the same “save the planet” people that are doing this while destroying the water ways. SMH
Hey, I had the same situation recently in Colorado about a pump shorting me. I filed a complaint online with the state and the next day got a call from the department official who went on to tell me they appreciate the input and now this station on a "short list" meaning they are going to be checked regularly.
I'm Canadian. I've been hassled enough being here. My plan is to return to Canada fully NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS or stirring the pot. This is my mission..
thanks for the tip about the fuel pump fraud. i hope any on land or water can find a set of community resource regulations much better than the unfairness the people responsible for fuel sales in your area have allowed, etc.
It’s the same with the streets of our urban areas. Derelict vans line the streets. You think poor people on boats will pay for sewage pumping at marinas? Nope their waste is going in the water. We have a growing poverty problem in this nation and they are living on the streets, public lands and waterways. The nation is going to see more of this which is going to affect those of us who respect the rules.
Where to the fish go to the bathroom? In the water
I live in Jupiter and can honestly say that the most beautiful boating locations are up here - away from all the man made concrete and steel. I've been out in the bay of Miami and it was not for me at all. The best boating I've experienced is Stuart, FL. There are lots of gorgeous unmaned islands and a giant sand bar where you will always find dozens of other boats lined up.
Planning on leaving Florida after almost 3 decades. Sailing both boats up to a different state that appreciates workers and allows liveaboards. Florida has gotten greedy, hateful and doesn't appreciate their labor force.
In key largo at the jewfish creek bridge there are several liveaboard boats tied to the mangroves without power anchored with room air-conditioners. Monroe county does not seem to care. there are also derelict half sunken boats in the area. drive down US1 and you will see some of them. Drive to Gilberts and the blackwater Siren and you will see many more. some of these boats are actually in hurricane holes and they sit for years. to use the dinky dock you must be friends with the ramp owner. launching a power boat is 50 dollars.
8:01 glad you promote other youtubers like intoodeep instead of getting butt hurt, great videos man, i dream of sailing all day long in school😂😂
To all you people complaining about taxes in Florida. Try living in New York State!
It would be nice if some space was saved for cruisers who are only going to be around long enough to see some sights and to provision. Quite often, the popular spots are full or nearly full and anchoring, in high congestion areas, is always risky unless someone stays onboard.
It would be nice to see you interview people who live on boats in the area. Put a face on the invisible people that some may have misconceptions about. Share the video with local and state news orgs. You can make a difference that way i believe. Thanks for this video.
so did you notify d.o.t. weights and measures on the fuel station
It is unfortunate that many municipalities are acting to restrict anchoring, (This is happening in places like Sausalito, CA) But, from what I observed at Key West, I can't say that I blame them. There are so many derelicts anchored permanently around Key West that it is virtually impossible for a cruiser to find a spot. Fantastically, Key West provides free moorings forever. The moorings as well are unavailable to cruisers passing through. The mooring field is full of derelicts. The derelicts are a general hazard to navigation as their rotten ground tackle often fail, causing the derelicts to cut loose. There's also a sanitary aspect as I suspect that many, many derelicts are direct discharging fecal matter into coastal waters. Perhaps a compromise would be allowing anchoring for 30-45 days, and require vessel inspections. Captains should be required to prove that their vessel is navigable and present servicable ground tackle. But all this would necessitate the hiring of marine peace officers.
You need to REPORT that valero station to the state measurement department! 🤬
Those "5 gallon" cans you have are actually 6 gallons mol. If you put 5 gallons in a 6 gallon can you then have room for expansion, and then you don't have fuel all over your decks.
Read the labels on your cans, I think you will find I am right.
They do hold 6 gals, but the mark he showed is at 5 gals...
Exactly right! Last thing you need on deck is an overfilled fuel container leaking. My fives have Do Not Fill Past line on them.
@@jim2041-o9bI use skateboard grip tape for anti-skid 😏
I was thinking the same thing. You can put more in a can than the nominal listing.
In a world without gold we would have been heros.
The fact is, there are FAR too many boaters who squat. You know who I am talking about. The barnacles who muck up the area with their dilapidated boats. They screw it up for everyone else.
It's a two way street with this sort of game. I was wrapped up in a floating boat problem up in Joisey once upon a time. It didn't end up too pretty. I was able to get out from under the consequences that were being set in place by the NJ Marine State Police though. It WAS my vessel in the past. Got a wrist slap for what took place. Sailing EV, if we can connect via a more direct way, I'll give you the fuller version. Best
Bums are everywhere so don’t feel to bad about it in Florida. Boats, campers or tents they aren’t too particular how or where they manage to find a comfy spot. Meanwhile some non-wealthy boater with a modest boat wants to drop anchor in a snooty area gets harassed what do you expect. My boating experience got me close to many yachtsman in New England and it wasn’t a warm and fuzzy time. However, what I know about Miami it might be worse there.
I am recreational boater..
Is easy to say, is rich folks don't want to see the poor.
But they haven't navigated around floating pieces of garbage,, if you have a boat, and you don't have to be rich to take some pride in your vessel at a minimum even if is a junk keeping clean and not a hazard for folks on water and on land... and thats the bigger issue, folks mainly people with substance issues taking things way to far... ruining it for everyone else...
You overlooked the sewage pump out that gets dumped into that beautiful bay and anchors that aren't tethered to a ball just like you did, just drop anchor (where sea grass used to thrive). Also, sure the soap bought (if any) isn't biodegradable. Just bay salt soaked grease rinse over the side. Glad to see the free drop a loaders vacated.
While I dont agree with regulations against peoples lifestyle choices and how to live their lives leaving boats unattended for more then 5 months of movements are going to be a problem eventually. They have to be used and moved around. Sort of like RVS have a No more then 45 days of stay is good for free Then you move. Thats not a bad deal..But its also not a good deal to have to go to these hidden out of the way gasoline stations for gas to avoid a ticket. That should not be a issue. Everyone should be able to go to an gas station as they need.
Again this is about them catering to the rich. There are a dozen marinas you can get gas at without even leaving your boat. For double the price of a land based gas station.
There have always been people living on boats. They are just mad they are not sucking enough money from them. Not just Florida. just finding a legal way to kick people out.