The last seconds got me 😂 There is no question the RS660 is the obvious choice between the two due to price range. You were on point on everything. Regarding the RS660 being a slow bike.. well.. maybe it is.. maybe its not. But tell that to the liter bikes I smoke on the canyons with it lol. RS660 is a work of art.
Having watched you ride in your videos, it just proves that a good rider on a reasonably fast bike will beat a bad rider on a faster bike. Every. Single. Day. But yeah... 660's are more than enough bike for road riding. I've never felt like I needed more than my 660 Factory. Great how-to videos, btw.
@@JoshPhillips7781 Thank you man! Yeah for the street the 660 is perfect. Never felt the lack of power at the twisties. Sure I feel it on top speed and long straights when liter bikes pass me like Im stopped lol. But other than that, this bike is a do it all bike.
Head: RS660 all day long Heart: screw it enjoy bombing around the streets sounding like you’re in MOTOGP @ 50mph on a screaming inline 4. That soundtrack is just nearly priceless.
You hit the nail on the head with this one. The ZX4-RR gives you all the features of the ZX10, but in a bike that's not trying to kill you. I really like the Aprilia RS and Tuono 660, that's a feature and performance packed bike at an attainable price and frankly... Aprilia's finally making an Italian looking bike! My beef with them: it's only a two cylinder. Lame! At least give us a triple! Twins are pedestrian as fuck these days since that's where the market is heading. Sure, Ducati makes twins look good but just because KTM sells the least amount of cylinders per dollar doesn't mean Aprilia should. Sorry, twins are boring.
@@casualride I test rode a base Tuono 660 a month ago at a local Aprilia, KTM, and Piaggio dealer. I went in asking about the MV Agusta Dragster 800 since MV has just worked out an import deal with KTM. The Tuono is a fantastic bike that has nearly every modern feature you could want at an insane price. The motor is more than enough and might even be the best sounding twin on the market. It's still a twin though and they just don't do it for me. That's just my opinion though. Italians should sing, not grunt. I like my bikes to wail like 2000s era F1 cars, not these modern, emissions friendly blenders.
The ZX 4R has all the tech of the ZX 10R if you don't count launch control, cornering management, engine brake control, and electronic cruise control. But yeah otherwise exactly the same, since they both do quick shift up and down, TFT dash, and rider modes.
100% right with the anything below 11,000rpm is pretty boring. I've owned the zx25r, and for you to get any significant power you would have to go ham on the throttle and wait a second to two to get any amount of power from the bike. Had it for 2 months then decided to sell it, got myself a more torque oriented bike and haven't looked back since.
Really loved the RS660 when I took it out for a test drive here in the Philippines. Sad to say, the RS660 here costs way more than a Kawasaki ZX-6R. There is a 200,000php difference for the two. I hope the prices abroad would be the same here in the Philippines. Just like how the XSR900 is 125,000php way more expensive than the Z900RS 💔
I saw the ZX4RR has more than one big old catalytic converter to meet emissions, that will make a decent impact to weight, will be interesting to see how much
There isn’t a single aprillia dealer here in New Orleans so while I don’t think it’s unreliable it would probably be just as much of a pain to own and get serviced as my MV Agusta has been now that you mention it. That’s usually worth the cost of entry though
I work at an Aprilia dealer and trust me…the RS660 has a LOT of reliability issues right now. Until Aprilia sorts out the problems they’re having I would stay away. We have always had RS660s in the shop since their release.
@@Fee.1 I’d say yes. In 2021 Aprilia issued a large recall and replaced a lot of engines because of crankshaft connecting rod issues. We still get a lot in for gasket failures as well especially around the engine side cases. Some of them also experience electronic issues like lights not working. Just today our foreman was on the phone with Aprilia because of a dashboard issue on an RS660 and, like he guessed, Aprilia told us the dash is fucked and the owner needs a new one. I’m sure there are some reliable ones out there but I personally wouldn’t buy one until Aprilia gets their shit together.
@@iand.1752 it's a shame because the RS660 is such a fun bike to ride. I'm on my 4th defect this time the rotors front and rear, warped from the factory... 5 months been waiting for them to do something.
@@iand.1752 Preach man. What my buddy went through on his 22 RS660 was a straight nightmare for a rider. Down for months. Quick Shifter, then the infamous oil\water seal\pump. Definitely not ok.
I would have thought the display would factor very little into a purchasing decision. It's just a display, and except for the gear indicator and maybe the RPM you're not looking at the display.
This is what makes me upset they put an updated display on this bike because this bike should be cheap. At the price there are so many other better value bikes you can get.
Im afraid to buy anything with an Aprilia badge due to servicing costs and reliability. i have heard more than a few rs660s have blown up their engines whilst kawis are pretty unkillable.
Those were the first bikes and they've since been recalled and covered under warranties. Little to no issues since then. Brand new products always have problems when they come out but it does suck that it could be catastrophic engine failure. Still amazing bikes.
@@johnniejohnsonv But still kinda scary that they had that issue before on RS660. even though it's only happened on first edition rs660s yet still alarming to buy em. i love aprilia specially the RSV4 2019 model. but let's be honest if you heard news like that it still kinda scary to buy.
@@johnniejohnsonv No issues? So pissing oil on the regular is not an issue? And not to mention issues with the too sensitive sensors triggering check engine líghts or straight up cutting out the engine. I really want to buy a Tuono 660, but I am waiting until they get their s*** together. Colleague who races exclusively Aprilias told me to wait at least a couple more years.
Aprilia should sponsor this channel. God knows he does a great job of showing how great their bikes currently are. At a minimum they should give the man a coffee budget just for the glorious appreciation stops.
I love my RS660 and over the ZX4 it's just not in the same class so comparison is not really apples to apples. I'd really love to have both and the ZX4 I'm sure will be in fact more reliable than my RS660. Lol
I had a conversation with some racers about this. Funny enough, it was while he was working on an rs660 race bike. We concluded that the people track riding these don’t care about reliability 😂. But he gave me some tips on what they did to make the 660 bullet proof. Some rsv4 parts
@@adobomoto I've heard about the bulletproofing. I'm planning to track mine it's why I bought it but I'm still waiting on factory defects to get fixed. It's annoying. It's been 6 months now. I'm about ready to fix it myself lol
The zx4rr for the US does not make sense. But for other countries where you're restricted to certain cc depending on your license, the zx4rr is a game changer, especially in Europe. Even for Canada where the insurance here is a scam, it's $350 a month for the RS 660 VS $130 a month for the ZX4RR. Now the difference of $220 may not seem like a lot, but it can pile up over the years on what you end up paying for a motorcycle. Insurance here can significantly vary, it can be much higher for a younger rider.
so, I'm in the market to get into sport bikes, I've only ridden cruisers and my choice is split between rs660 and the zx6r, I like the sound, style, reliability, and power of the zx6r, but the tech, comfort, and bang for ur buck of the rs660.... I don't plan on tracking the bikes anytime soon, so It'd mainly be a fun commuter... any advice from you or anyone else in the comments? I'm trying to test ride each one but that's easier said than done.
hey man. I have been following you for a while. love your content. I was wondering if I can get your opinion on something. I currently ride a kawasaki ninja 650. it's my first bike and I love it, but I am looking into my next bike. what bike would you recommend as a second bike? thanks in advance
genuinely, what is with the end bit? Aprilia really is known for being not that reliable, especially compared to a big 4 bike. im not throwing shade, im seriously just asking, because ive never owned a kawi or an Aprilia. if you gotta take your rs660 to the shop every other month for some sort of leak or something not working, but only need to take a kawi in to get the tires balanced, then I think id go with the kawi.
Amazing video like always but I don’t see how these bikes are very comparable. Ones a 400 the others a 650. Right there I already think there to different to be comparing with each other. But I do see reasons to get both for the price you might as well get the aprilia. Bigger engine more power. But there’s also reasons you would want a 400. So then just get the zx4 rr
Definitely more of a value comparison rather than a direct competitor comparison. The r7 would be a better comparison, but I think I’d go zx4rr over the r7
@@adobomoto I agree for the price you might as well the the rs660 for the power but I do like the idea of a 400 with all that tech and the r7 is a more similar bike to the rs660
great video, I ow 3 aprilia's an RSV1000R, a Shiver 750 and an RS660, no reliability issues here my friend. I will always buy an aprilia - I also own a suzuki & kawasaki's
I've had the rs660 for about 6 months now. I love everything about it except the power. I've ridden a RSV4 and a V4S. both of those bike do the things I wish the 660 did. But that being said, there is a reason I bought the 660 as a beginner bike.
Honestly don't get the craze for TFT displays. My Husky 701 has a super basic speedo, not even showing the revs and it was the best I've had IMO. Learn when to shift properly and the tachometer becomes irrellevant. It's also really not that hard to remember what gear you are in. All you need is the freakin' speedometer. Maybe this is because I started riding on '60s motorcycles but I really don't see the added value for this,- unless you have no experience. I simply don't want a super bright ipad in front of me when riding, I think it's super distracting and often there's so much information on it it's quite hard to read in a quick glance. That's why manual speedometers are just way superior
The ZX4-RR is expected to be priced at around $20K here in New Zealand, the ZX6-R was $20K in 2019... it's now $25K 😢 The RS660 was $19,200 in 2021 its now $21,200. They are now all out of my price range!! Makes me angry! I feel I'll be stuck on my R3 for the rest of my life 🙄 My wages haven't gone up by any amount, so all the bikes are now just unobtainable for me.
I am struggling to choose btw these two here in U.K. only £1000 different in price. I like the reliability on kawa and the screaming engine, but the power and look of the RS660. I had a few ninja before, 2017 400r, 2019 636 and and 2024 300r …. Really not sure if I should go for another ninja or just get the RS660
@adobomoto Been watching some of your ZX-4RR content and one thing you don't compare is cost of ownership. Insurance costs here are a BIG jump between a sub 400cc bike and anything above the 400cc threshold. Are those 250cc worth more than double the insurance cost?
I think the technology can be a hindrance at times. I think most people don’t even realize what half that tech is. Although in 2023 wtf to any manufacturer who is still using old display systems. You can’t tell me it’s not just as cheap it put a new digital display on these bikes. Even my china bike as a colored display.
Man, it aint even close. That 4RR is a joke when compared to the RS660. And that you NEED to spend $$ to flash the 4RR to get what you paid for is even more BS. The only good thing the 4RR has is aftermarket support and cost. Insurance is even cheaper on the 660 (at least the Tuono660)
If you want a liter bike start with a 600 first. The zx6r was a bigger step than I thought when I first got on it. The bike feels like it is ready to run compared to the 400. A 1000cc bike will be a rocket ship in comparison to the 400. But you mostly get a liter bike for the tech more than the power. It has way more power than you need for the streets and your insurance will skyrocket. Get the RS 660 if you want the most amount of power you will actually need for the street and it will still feel really fast.
If only i had the freakin money to buy aprillas and maintain them. I love the look of the RS660 seen it for the first time sa event. Napaputangina ako. Its a middleweight class of its own but my wallet does not like it hahaha!
The rs660 is a great bike and tbh i don't think the zx4rr was ever meant to be an American Market bike to me it seems it was clearly made for the euro Market and to be A2 compliant (48 horsepower but you allowed to limit it to 48 if it doesn't have over 96 horsepower originally) and the steel frame is too save on costs
If you kept all the electronics and unnecessary bullshit off the Kawa and gave me an aluminum frame and better suspension I would consider it, my Honda CBR 400RR from 1990 came in at 360lbs.
RS660 has an incredibly wide seat. Feels like sitting on top of the bike vs inside. The quality on Aprilia is just poor all around. Buddies '22 RS660 spent more time in the shop after initially buying it than time spent riding. Started with the quick shifter, then was a water\oil pump needing replaced and that took months. Once finally up and running, mods are just insane cost wise. Want it tuned? You'll be piggy backing off Austin Racing for tune and the cost for exhaust and install if you're not doing it yourself is insane. For a low HP overpriced bike it's just ridiculous. There's also maintenance which exceeds Yamaha, Kawasaki, BMW, and Triumph. I would never buy an Aprilia. If you want to go down that path, do it right and get a Ducati.
The 660 is a twin - closer to a supertwin, not a supersport. If it was between the gsxr750 and the rs660, I’d go rs660 cuz it’s the bike I won’t see at a two wheel tuesday…not that I ever go to those, but you know what I mean. I ride an RSV4 because it’s not an s1k, or panigale 😂
Dumb pick. RS660s are hard and expensive to maintain. There's no real advantage. That said, I CAN understand people who go for the RSV4 over the ZX-10R...
"... what do you get with the RS660 that you don't get with the ZX4 RR?" (A.) Respect‼ The RS660's power to weight ratio, coupled with its 6 axis inertial sensor (IMU), and its more tunable suspension (front and rear), and more, just make it the more desirable bike on so many levels.
😂 I own both and that ain’t true unless your talking aftermarket parts but oem to oem not even close I’ve spent wayyyy more on the 400 even the insurance is more expensive. The price of one ninja 400 wheel alone is more than both rs660 wheels you can fact check me if you want
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Yezzir. Thats why i went for the Rs660 🙌💯 almost a year of ownership and its a blast to ride! It's more than enough for the street and track for me.
The last seconds got me 😂 There is no question the RS660 is the obvious choice between the two due to price range. You were on point on everything. Regarding the RS660 being a slow bike.. well.. maybe it is.. maybe its not. But tell that to the liter bikes I smoke on the canyons with it lol. RS660 is a work of art.
love your vides man
@@matthewroelofse Thank you brother ✌️
Having watched you ride in your videos, it just proves that a good rider on a reasonably fast bike will beat a bad rider on a faster bike. Every. Single. Day. But yeah... 660's are more than enough bike for road riding. I've never felt like I needed more than my 660 Factory. Great how-to videos, btw.
@@JoshPhillips7781 Thank you man! Yeah for the street the 660 is perfect. Never felt the lack of power at the twisties. Sure I feel it on top speed and long straights when liter bikes pass me like Im stopped lol. But other than that, this bike is a do it all bike.
Rs660 can easily go above 200kmh like what more do you need for daily riding
Head: RS660 all day long
Heart: screw it enjoy bombing around the streets sounding like you’re in MOTOGP @ 50mph on a screaming inline 4. That soundtrack is just nearly priceless.
You hit the nail on the head with this one. The ZX4-RR gives you all the features of the ZX10, but in a bike that's not trying to kill you. I really like the Aprilia RS and Tuono 660, that's a feature and performance packed bike at an attainable price and frankly... Aprilia's finally making an Italian looking bike! My beef with them: it's only a two cylinder. Lame! At least give us a triple! Twins are pedestrian as fuck these days since that's where the market is heading. Sure, Ducati makes twins look good but just because KTM sells the least amount of cylinders per dollar doesn't mean Aprilia should. Sorry, twins are boring.
did u ride one ?
@@casualride I test rode a base Tuono 660 a month ago at a local Aprilia, KTM, and Piaggio dealer. I went in asking about the MV Agusta Dragster 800 since MV has just worked out an import deal with KTM. The Tuono is a fantastic bike that has nearly every modern feature you could want at an insane price. The motor is more than enough and might even be the best sounding twin on the market. It's still a twin though and they just don't do it for me. That's just my opinion though. Italians should sing, not grunt. I like my bikes to wail like 2000s era F1 cars, not these modern, emissions friendly blenders.
My sxv450 isn't boring
The ZX 4R has all the tech of the ZX 10R if you don't count launch control, cornering management, engine brake control, and electronic cruise control. But yeah otherwise exactly the same, since they both do quick shift up and down, TFT dash, and rider modes.
100% right with the anything below 11,000rpm is pretty boring. I've owned the zx25r, and for you to get any significant power you would have to go ham on the throttle and wait a second to two to get any amount of power from the bike. Had it for 2 months then decided to sell it, got myself a more torque oriented bike and haven't looked back since.
Tbh I think people would get bored of the power of ZX4RR
Really loved the RS660 when I took it out for a test drive here in the Philippines. Sad to say, the RS660 here costs way more than a Kawasaki ZX-6R. There is a 200,000php difference for the two. I hope the prices abroad would be the same here in the Philippines. Just like how the XSR900 is 125,000php way more expensive than the Z900RS 💔
yeah same with Indonesia, i guess its time to move to america lol
In italy the price is "only" 11.699 EUR
I saw the ZX4RR has more than one big old catalytic converter to meet emissions, that will make a decent impact to weight, will be interesting to see how much
Yup. I just picked up the RS660 Extrema and it's frickin' amazing !!!
Good luck finding a local Aprila dealer lol
There isn’t a single aprillia dealer here in New Orleans so while I don’t think it’s unreliable it would probably be just as much of a pain to own and get serviced as my MV Agusta has been now that you mention it. That’s usually worth the cost of entry though
I work at an Aprilia dealer and trust me…the RS660 has a LOT of reliability issues right now. Until Aprilia sorts out the problems they’re having I would stay away. We have always had RS660s in the shop since their release.
@@iand.1752 more so than other Aprillia’s or less? What sort of issues ?
@@Fee.1 I’d say yes. In 2021 Aprilia issued a large recall and replaced a lot of engines because of crankshaft connecting rod issues. We still get a lot in for gasket failures as well especially around the engine side cases. Some of them also experience electronic issues like lights not working. Just today our foreman was on the phone with Aprilia because of a dashboard issue on an RS660 and, like he guessed, Aprilia told us the dash is fucked and the owner needs a new one. I’m sure there are some reliable ones out there but I personally wouldn’t buy one until Aprilia gets their shit together.
@@iand.1752 it's a shame because the RS660 is such a fun bike to ride.
I'm on my 4th defect this time the rotors front and rear, warped from the factory... 5 months been waiting for them to do something.
@@iand.1752 Preach man. What my buddy went through on his 22 RS660 was a straight nightmare for a rider. Down for months. Quick Shifter, then the infamous oil\water seal\pump. Definitely not ok.
I like this. Love my RS 660. Chose it over the 4r and a couple of other bikes. Absolute blast to ride.
I'm going with the zx4rr because I don't need all the power of a 600+cc bike, but I want the screamer and the tech doesn't hurt.
I would have thought the display would factor very little into a purchasing decision. It's just a display, and except for the gear indicator and maybe the RPM you're not looking at the display.
This is what makes me upset they put an updated display on this bike because this bike should be cheap. At the price there are so many other better value bikes you can get.
Im afraid to buy anything with an Aprilia badge due to servicing costs and reliability. i have heard more than a few rs660s have blown up their engines whilst kawis are pretty unkillable.
Those were the first bikes and they've since been recalled and covered under warranties. Little to no issues since then. Brand new products always have problems when they come out but it does suck that it could be catastrophic engine failure. Still amazing bikes.
@@johnniejohnsonv But still kinda scary that they had that issue before on RS660. even though it's only happened on first edition rs660s yet still alarming to buy em. i love aprilia specially the RSV4 2019 model. but let's be honest if you heard news like that it still kinda scary to buy.
@@johnniejohnsonv No issues? So pissing oil on the regular is not an issue? And not to mention issues with the too sensitive sensors triggering check engine líghts or straight up cutting out the engine. I really want to buy a Tuono 660, but I am waiting until they get their s*** together. Colleague who races exclusively Aprilias told me to wait at least a couple more years.
@amazing Andy forget about aprilia,get a kawi 636 or a gsxr 750 if you want something reliable
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Totally agree with you're recommendation 👍 👌 it's 💯 % sound advice and I love the whine at end 😀 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏
great vid as always!
btw it would help if you can input the weight in kilos in the video for non US people 👍
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Aprilia should sponsor this channel. God knows he does a great job of showing how great their bikes currently are. At a minimum they should give the man a coffee budget just for the glorious appreciation stops.
All your vids are informative and fun. Absolutely love the jabs.. Scammy Boob......Still Laughing 😂 😂
Lol thanks man
I love my RS660 and over the ZX4 it's just not in the same class so comparison is not really apples to apples.
I'd really love to have both and the ZX4 I'm sure will be in fact more reliable than my RS660. Lol
I had a conversation with some racers about this. Funny enough, it was while he was working on an rs660 race bike. We concluded that the people track riding these don’t care about reliability 😂. But he gave me some tips on what they did to make the 660 bullet proof. Some rsv4 parts
@@adobomoto I've heard about the bulletproofing.
I'm planning to track mine it's why I bought it but I'm still waiting on factory defects to get fixed. It's annoying.
It's been 6 months now. I'm about ready to fix it myself lol
Great video. I agree. I would take the RS 660 as well. 415 lbs, that's about the same heavier than my S1000RR is
i mean, as someone who actually ordered one, i kinda wish the zx4rr had an analog tach...
Yeah, I ordered mine with absolutely zero regard to the screen. It could have a ninja 300 gauge and I wouldn't bat an eye
How fo you like the zx4rr, also did you get it tuned and is it slow?
@@kevsimoes it's not slow but i also don't live in the US so i don't need to get it tuned
@babyfknblu nice I plan on maybe getting it as my second, tho I'll probably have to get it tuned
The zx4rr for the US does not make sense.
But for other countries where you're restricted to certain cc depending on your license, the zx4rr is a game changer, especially in Europe.
Even for Canada where the insurance here is a scam, it's $350 a month for the RS 660 VS $130 a month for the ZX4RR.
Now the difference of $220 may not seem like a lot, but it can pile up over the years on what you end up paying for a motorcycle.
Insurance here can significantly vary, it can be much higher for a younger rider.
so, I'm in the market to get into sport bikes, I've only ridden cruisers and my choice is split between rs660 and the zx6r, I like the sound, style, reliability, and power of the zx6r, but the tech, comfort, and bang for ur buck of the rs660.... I don't plan on tracking the bikes anytime soon, so It'd mainly be a fun commuter... any advice from you or anyone else in the comments? I'm trying to test ride each one but that's easier said than done.
Did u decide? Im in the same boat, but it feels like the zx6r is way to dank
RS 660 hands down.
also consider the parts availability
hey man. I have been following you for a while. love your content. I was wondering if I can get your opinion on something. I currently ride a kawasaki ninja 650. it's my first bike and I love it, but I am looking into my next bike. what bike would you recommend as a second bike? thanks in advance
genuinely, what is with the end bit? Aprilia really is known for being not that reliable, especially compared to a big 4 bike. im not throwing shade, im seriously just asking, because ive never owned a kawi or an Aprilia. if you gotta take your rs660 to the shop every other month for some sort of leak or something not working, but only need to take a kawi in to get the tires balanced, then I think id go with the kawi.
I wouldn’t pick either 1 of them. I’ll stay with my gen 2 R3 😂. I don’t need all them tech for backroads,cannons, and mountain rides.
Lol, the r3 is a great bike for the price
Yeah cannons are too explosive anyway, but I wouldnt call the rs660 a cannon despite their legit reputation of blowing up. 😂
i prefer a r6 without a tft display..
Amazing video like always but I don’t see how these bikes are very comparable. Ones a 400 the others a 650. Right there I already think there to different to be comparing with each other. But I do see reasons to get both for the price you might as well get the aprilia. Bigger engine more power. But there’s also reasons you would want a 400. So then just get the zx4 rr
Definitely more of a value comparison rather than a direct competitor comparison. The r7 would be a better comparison, but I think I’d go zx4rr over the r7
@@adobomoto I agree for the price you might as well the the rs660 for the power but I do like the idea of a 400 with all that tech and the r7 is a more similar bike to the rs660
Listen if it’s not an r6 I told you it’s trash dad
I have an R6 and an RS 660 and love them both!
I would never pay $10K for the 400RR
great video, I ow 3 aprilia's an RSV1000R, a Shiver 750 and an RS660, no reliability issues here my friend. I will always buy an aprilia - I also own a suzuki & kawasaki's
Sheeee I got both of these biked because my brain is smooth 😂
Nice
Parts availability is going to be my biggest argument for a Japanese motorcycle over any Euro brand.
The rsv4 is the exception. It’s been the same bike since 2009. It’s harder to get parts for the new s1000rr.
You are just a hardcore aprilia fan 🤣
I've had the rs660 for about 6 months now. I love everything about it except the power. I've ridden a RSV4 and a V4S. both of those bike do the things I wish the 660 did. But that being said, there is a reason I bought the 660 as a beginner bike.
What do you think about the new rs660 extrema as a beginner bike ?
Updates regarding reliability?
Honestly don't get the craze for TFT displays. My Husky 701 has a super basic speedo, not even showing the revs and it was the best I've had IMO. Learn when to shift properly and the tachometer becomes irrellevant. It's also really not that hard to remember what gear you are in. All you need is the freakin' speedometer. Maybe this is because I started riding on '60s motorcycles but I really don't see the added value for this,- unless you have no experience.
I simply don't want a super bright ipad in front of me when riding, I think it's super distracting and often there's so much information on it it's quite hard to read in a quick glance.
That's why manual speedometers are just way superior
The ZX4-RR is expected to be priced at around $20K here in New Zealand, the ZX6-R was $20K in 2019... it's now $25K 😢
The RS660 was $19,200 in 2021 its now $21,200.
They are now all out of my price range!!
Makes me angry! I feel I'll be stuck on my R3 for the rest of my life 🙄
My wages haven't gone up by any amount, so all the bikes are now just unobtainable for me.
I am struggling to choose btw these two here in U.K. only £1000 different in price. I like the reliability on kawa and the screaming engine, but the power and look of the RS660. I had a few ninja before, 2017 400r, 2019 636 and and 2024 300r …. Really not sure if I should go for another ninja or just get the RS660
Lol you called it an RSV4 at least three times
😂..damn
@adobomoto Been watching some of your ZX-4RR content and one thing you don't compare is cost of ownership. Insurance costs here are a BIG jump between a sub 400cc bike and anything above the 400cc threshold. Are those 250cc worth more than double the insurance cost?
Yeah, that definitely varies. That’s why i just stick to the numbers from the manufacturers. I pay $90/mo for my rsv4 full coverage
Hmmm, slow (lightweight) bike, super power/weight ratio. Superb suspension - designed to be a Tuono 1100 downsized. I love mine!
As a beginner I doubt that the 660 is the better choice for me
I don't get the tft hype, it just shows your speed and rpm brighter 🤨
😂😂😂 you ever seen the cbr600rr dash?
@@adobomoto oh hell nawww use any other example, the cbrs are the worst
I kinda agree but the sound is the one thing you will buy the zx4rr, 😅
This aprilia guy hates everything that is not aprilia😅
😂😂 i love all bikes
just out of curiosity why compare the zx4rr instead of just the base zx4r?
I think the technology can be a hindrance at times. I think most people don’t even realize what half that tech is. Although in 2023 wtf to any manufacturer who is still using old display systems. You can’t tell me it’s not just as cheap it put a new digital display on these bikes. Even my china bike as a colored display.
😂😂😂😂
Man, it aint even close. That 4RR is a joke when compared to the RS660. And that you NEED to spend $$ to flash the 4RR to get what you paid for is even more BS. The only good thing the 4RR has is aftermarket support and cost. Insurance is even cheaper on the 660 (at least the Tuono660)
Fact: Kawasaki made a better bike in 1995 with the ZXR400s. They kept those in Europe because the American market just wasn't going to buy them.
Yo I’m hopping off the ninja 400 after a year, it’ll probably be a track bike. Should I go RS660 or Liter bike?
If you want a liter bike start with a 600 first. The zx6r was a bigger step than I thought when I first got on it. The bike feels like it is ready to run compared to the 400. A 1000cc bike will be a rocket ship in comparison to the 400. But you mostly get a liter bike for the tech more than the power. It has way more power than you need for the streets and your insurance will skyrocket. Get the RS 660 if you want the most amount of power you will actually need for the street and it will still feel really fast.
Aprillia dominates on every category… those bikes are just amazing…
If only i had the freakin money to buy aprillas and maintain them. I love the look of the RS660 seen it for the first time sa event. Napaputangina ako. Its a middleweight class of its own but my wallet does not like it hahaha!
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@@adobomoto specially here in the PH. retails for 860,000
When will we see the 4RR's LCD dash through your gopro ? @adobomoto
The rs660 is a great bike and tbh i don't think the zx4rr was ever meant to be an American Market bike to me it seems it was clearly made for the euro Market and to be A2 compliant (48 horsepower but you allowed to limit it to 48 if it doesn't have over 96 horsepower originally) and the steel frame is too save on costs
the zx 4rr isn't for A2. i m from IT and here is only with 77 hp.
italy has shit laws tho im saying majority of eu @@maxduo4696
If you kept all the electronics and unnecessary bullshit off the Kawa and gave me an aluminum frame and better suspension I would consider it, my Honda CBR 400RR from 1990 came in at 360lbs.
RS660 has an incredibly wide seat. Feels like sitting on top of the bike vs inside. The quality on Aprilia is just poor all around. Buddies '22 RS660 spent more time in the shop after initially buying it than time spent riding. Started with the quick shifter, then was a water\oil pump needing replaced and that took months. Once finally up and running, mods are just insane cost wise. Want it tuned? You'll be piggy backing off Austin Racing for tune and the cost for exhaust and install if you're not doing it yourself is insane. For a low HP overpriced bike it's just ridiculous. There's also maintenance which exceeds Yamaha, Kawasaki, BMW, and Triumph. I would never buy an Aprilia. If you want to go down that path, do it right and get a Ducati.
Have a CBR600RR with only one MOD…starlane DAVINCI 2 X SERIES Dashboard …holy god thank you…for a 600 class you will never ever need other mods
literally everyone has been telling me not to get an Aprilia 😥 lol “its unreliable, its gonna burn a hole thru your wallet”
What if I'll buy an aprilia rs660 tomorrow? idk if this video was a sign lol
The zx4 rr would save me $2K /year in insurance because it's under 500cc and for a cheap guy like me that's good enough a reason.
An MT07 would also have as low insurance and has way more usable power. Insurance is only higher on sport bikes bikes people crash them often.
what category does the rs660 fit into for race organizations? like wmrra and motoamerica?
The rs660 is the reigning supertwin champion in motoamerica. The championship race finished with 3 rs660’s
the main reason is you're aprilia lover
Shit. If adobo goes for the 660 then I go for the 660
2:00 you called it a rsv4 lol
bro you said rsv4 is 11k WHERE THE FUCK CAN I GET THAT DEAL BBG
WTF!? That Ninja needed to be 350lbs or less!
You said if you could have any 600 it'd be thr gsxr750 does that hold up against the rs660
The 660 is a twin - closer to a supertwin, not a supersport. If it was between the gsxr750 and the rs660, I’d go rs660 cuz it’s the bike I won’t see at a two wheel tuesday…not that I ever go to those, but you know what I mean. I ride an RSV4 because it’s not an s1k, or panigale 😂
I don’t think I’d ever own a gsxr750 though..it’s the best in between, but I’d get an r6 long before a gsxr750
Dumb pick. RS660s are hard and expensive to maintain. There's no real advantage.
That said, I CAN understand people who go for the RSV4 over the ZX-10R...
What about upcoming 440
Yeah I'm picking the zx6r🤣
"... what do you get with the RS660 that you don't get with the ZX4 RR?" (A.) Respect‼
The RS660's power to weight ratio, coupled with its 6 axis inertial sensor (IMU), and its more tunable suspension (front and rear), and more, just make it the more desirable bike on so many levels.
Early af
I dub thee…earl E of As fk
I've tested RS660 a while ago. Great bike, just sounded sh!t.
400's price of ownership is better...
😂 I own both and that ain’t true unless your talking aftermarket parts but oem to oem not even close I’ve spent wayyyy more on the 400 even the insurance is more expensive. The price of one ninja 400 wheel alone is more than both rs660 wheels you can fact check me if you want
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I do not recommend buying new starter bikes. You’ll out grow them in months and definitely long before it’s paid off. Buy used for your first bike
I agree, the price is a 600. Just get a 600.