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How to Quickly Detect Motherboard Short Circuit with the Rosin Dispenser
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2021
- The Rosin Dispenser is designed to detect PCB short circuits. Compared with soldering iron to dispense rosin, the Rosin Dispenser is easy to operate and can improve repair efficiency tremendously.
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I was gonna “quickly detect motherboard short with rosin dispenser”, but then i got high.
The motherboard is still shorted and I know why
@@andreyknyazev5560 hey hey!!! Because I got hiiiggghhhhh!!!!
Bararat dat dat dat!
Cách kiểm tra của bạn rất hay, còn kiểm tra mạch 2 lớp báo lỗi kiểm tra sao
Thank you for this comment.
FOR ANYONE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT , you coat the board with a film of rosin , apply voltage to the board/circuit , the short will heat up and create a spot on the board . Cheap way of finding a short . Sometimes very useful! Ty for sharing!
Sir can you share with me what is that dice if u use what name me I like that ok
@shofikislam4140 it's called a rosin flux atomiser but lol , most of the sellers just send you a vape or a e cigarette 😂
Thanks for explaining this because the video didn't
No officer, that's my rosin dispenser
Why use something as expensive as rosin when a quick spray of alcohol Will do the same thing?
@@DEGENEBABA Because with alcohol its hard to notice
@@DEGENEBABArosin is cheap wdym ?
I often use receipts from thermopaper to detect increasing temperature on the board
That's a great Idea
Oh shit thats a great idea, how do you use it?
@@joakoagui you can tightly attach the thermal paper to the board (you can fix it with a thermal pad so that it does not move). after that, try to turn on the board. if any element causes a short circuit, then it will heat up more than the others. as a result, a black trace of this element will remain on the thermal paper.
Вы не слышали про тепловизор?
@@arbimerzuevوان لم تمتلك كيمره التصوير الحراري كيف ستنحل المشكلة ؟
انا الان لا امتلكها وليس لدي المال الكافي لشرائها هل سمعت عن فكرةً بديله ؟
"So to repair this board, we'll start by preparing our rosin crack pipe."
Lol, slow down hunter.
Crack rosin? Hmm... I wonder if.. 🤔
Hahah crack pipe?? Not close to crack haha
😂😂😂😂😂😂
💀💀💀💀
Lmao so you just give the board a fat dab and then it spills all the information?
Essentially, yeah 😆
Gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣
OMFG 💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha nice!!!
You can also use freeze spray, duster or even just isopropyl alcohol. Thermal cameras work too.
How sensitive are flir cams
@@sargera1extremely sensitive, many factors greater than these other methods
Thermal cameras are fucking expensive tho. I can't wait for that recent advance in thermal sensor manufacturing that'll supposedly make them cheaper, making it possible for any consumer level smartphone to include a thermal camera.
How you can use isopropyl
@@user-iw6dr9rb3bjust put alcohol on suspected area and then inject a small current in the area and watch what evaporates quickly.
“First, you take a fat dab..” I like this video. 😂
Bruh that's a crack pipe not an e-banger lmao
For those who don't know, that's an e-cig battery. This has the absolute perfect mix of "janky diy solution" and "a trick only known to those in the industry"
Yuup
Just smart
What does vapor have to do with shorts?? I'm curious
@@johnathanfowlds7587 do you mean short circuit?
@@johnathanfowlds7587 the vapor is actually rosin it’s used as a flux to help solder flow in between two connections, in room temperature it feels almost like rock or hard candy, but when it heats up it turns to a liquid which aids in the flow of solder
Rosin by its self is not electricity conductive
this guy took it a step further and turned it to vapor and covered the board in it, when the vapor cooled it became almost like a dust coating on top of the board
when he ran a current threw, the heat generated from the short melted the rosin in that area, allowing him to find exactly what’s causing the problem
This technique is used in all sorts of stuff, dentists have a blue tablet that they’ll have you chew on, and under UV light it’ll make plaque glow, allowing them to find where you haven’t been brushing well
Doctor have a similar thing with blood, they’ll put a contrast in your blood and it’ll show problem areas in an X-Ray
Engineers will use a dye to color metal parts and that dye (or sometimes just a sharpie) will rub off in areas that are make to much contact, and will stay on the material in places that aren’t making enough contact, one scenario for this is mating two vary high tolerance parts together to make a seal; like valves in an engine
It’s all for quick identification of a problem and it’s a really neat practice
Just DONT take a hit by mistake.. hot rosin looks exactly like THC lmao
😂
I thought this dude was going to rip a fat dab. That's how I start fixing my electronics.
Fr tho
@@_sticks_ you made my day
@@antkoos have a good one!
Let me see if understood this right……. So when you get the MB stoned…… shit, I forgot where I was going with this.
"can you fix my phone?"
"Yes. I just need a table, a hash vape, and a violin."
"I'm going somewhere else..."
Top 10 underrated comment
😂
Lmao for a sec I thought this man was gonna take a hit of some THC dab out of that pen and show us how to detect a Mobo short circuit.. What a legend he would've been if that were the case!
Wait so that's not what was happening???
@@KendallHall nah the only thing taking fat dab hits here is that Mobo there with all that Rosin. Shit tho I needa get on that Mobo's level.
@@robertg8996 I think it's not actual THC bro 🤣🤣
@@TheTicassShow lmao I know bro it was a joke 😂
Edit: shit tho Rosin, Resin, same thing really 🤷
"THC dab" reading that hurt my soul
the algorithm is finally starting to figure out what I like
All hail the algo
Are you trying to say your a pothead? Or do you like electronics repair?
@@DM-uk3dp I would go with the joke and not the actual electronic fault finding
The algorithm just really like you.
Снять конденсатор, покрошив кристалл чипа...ГЕНИАЛЬНО!!!
Не, там по ходу грязь между ними была. Это она вылезла. Но все равно вандально снимал упираясь в чип.
Там компаунд все будет работать
@@useRrrrrr2022какой компаунд, там конкретно взял и глупо сколол кристалл. Тут смотря как трещина пошла, скорее всего уже труп.
@@denisyegorov5109 Да покрошил немного, верхний слой - не фатально. Работать будет. "погрыз" немного пластиковый корпус. Но снял да, вандально, не прогрел как следует...
Во времена когда процессоры для компа были с открытыми кристаллами для настольных ПК, криворукие сборщики буквально откалывали уголки у кристаллов, и ничего работало. Там главное что-бы нижний слой кристалла не был задет, там в очень тонком слое вся логика чипа, а вся остальная масса чипа 99.99% просто болванка для теплоотвода и как основа для формирования схемы.
It's Like Crystal Magical Portion ✌🏻😁
What about a IR Heat sensing camera?
Cleaning all of that rosin flux off of that MB is too much work imo.
Thermal cameras are really pricey, and not that great resolution, wise.
@@Zaniahiononzenbei why not a great solution?
@@AntonySimkin the cameras have low resolution, which prevents you from seeing exactly what caused the issue. They also can't use standard optics, because standard optics are opaque in the IR range.
@@Zaniahiononzenbei sounds pretty accurate. Indeed, you can't use optics. Composed cameras may be a good choice (as in Caterpillar cellphone, where posprocessing adds low res thermal on high res and you get more decent image). What do you think? I used one of those but not for electronics but for small friction pairs in mechanics and worked out pretty well
@@Zaniahiononzenbei I mean you can pay more for high resolution and macro lenses. The thermal camera at my work can identify individual hot 0402s with ease.
Heads up- replacing a shorted chip might not prevent the replacement from shorting, but it's worth a shot
In this case it was a capacitor, they are the most faulty parts in any circuit i believe. Changing it should do the trick
@@kcalbxof not very likely, SMD capacitors are extremely reliable, this one might be getting shorted and overheating due to another more complex and power hungry device such as an IC being actually shorted.
@@TuxraGamer nah, smd ceramic caps can crack and short between their layers
@@TuxraGamer i was RMA solderer and ive resoldered many connections on SMD resistors and replaced them frequently. Mainly videowalls.
Problem is, depending on the product they go through many heat cycles and the consensus seems to be that these connections start cracking, raising the resistance/fudging everything up. Thats why most times just adding more solder (mass production uses lead free, brittle solder) fixes such issues :)
@TuxraGamer if that's the case you will still see a short or low impedance across the pads of where the cap used to be. Most of the time, it's failed caps.
As a fellow stoner I can confirm dabs are always the solution
Mom it's okay it's for circuit board repair I swear
Now i know earwax is usable 👍🏼
So disgusting wtf lol
Lol I did not know that myself
Thats a rosin flux
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I have serviced circuitry for 40-years, used a similar method from the bag of tricks by using freeze spray to lightly mist the board. A warm component is detected much more quickly than by the touch method. Also, IR viewing is useful, if available.
What's the name of this products
Who else thought this was dabs? 😂😂😂
Был ремонт на копейки - стал на тысячи ))
В чем причина, можете объяснить незнающему
@@Otkisylin при снятии конденсатора повредил чип пинцетом
This is the first time a YT "How to Do Stuff" video actually has content.
Underrated comment
Seriously.
Fr fr but this is still really stupid.
The board short circuits and gets hot from all the electrons taking a shortcut though the board. He's putting a bunch of rosin on the bored and watching it melt to determine where the hot spots are. Which is weird and not what rosin is for.
You could literally do the same shit by just touching it with your fingers or just buy a cheap thermal camera..
@@fission1110 I would rather call it ingenious than stupid, because those Vapes are like five dollars it's definitely cheaper than buying a thermal camera, and he found a new use for two things. Can't really be hating on that can we?
@@AnonMedic I mean I guess. It's a janky solution to a problem where there's already a free janky solution.
Touching it with your hand is free, much faster, much more sensitive and doesn't leave your entire bored with sticky residue you have to rinse off with isopropyl after this is done.
Am I supposed to smoke or inhale it?
I guess than I gain the super power to detect sc.
@Dat Boii oh... it'll never work on me then.
Its soldering flux I think, you'd probably get super cancer from it
And THAT is how you get "Rosin Lung", boys and girls!
“Dont forget to bring a towel!”
Pouring alcohol works too, you just have to see it evaporate
That seems like the better choice because your going to have to clean the thing after the rosin anyway, probably with alcohol
@@ImBUNT you right
Most alcohols you can buy have some water in them. It's best not to apply power to a wet board.
It's also a flamible liquid on a board with a short circuit that's about to have powered probes touched to it...
@@charmio I'm pretty sure there's no water mixed with alcohol(I'm talking about rubbing alcohol/Isopropyl) but I could be wrong. Also, it's a phone/laptop motherboard and the highest voltages there would be around 30, so no sparks to ignite. Besides, I've seen this trick on Louis Rossmann, he said it worked just fine if you couldn't afford a Thermal Camera
@@roughshaf7321 True, you're right that IPA is available at 100%. Even so, if left open to air it rapidly absorbs moisture until it reaches an equilibrium of 65% IPA to 35% water. And I do mean rapidly! One study suggested an open container gains 7% water in as little as 15 minutes.
You can test your IPA by seeing if it dissolves table salt.
I know from experience that you can ignite it with a lab power supply too (I was bored one day). From memory the supply was set at 12v and it took a few sparks but ignited easily enough. The size of the sparks are determined by the current supplied (in practice the important factors are the output capacitance of the supply and the voltage it's set too).
If you really want to use this technique then I'd recommend connecting power first and then spraying the alcohol. Also set your supply to 0.8v, if you're looking for a short then this is higher than the supply will provide anyway.
With that all said, while it can work I wouldn't try this on anything high value.
That is awesome I definitely have a new trick in my bag thank you
At first I thought dude was gonna take a big dab before he got started lol
"I'm High"
"Look at dis Vape"
Maybe just spray isopropyl alcohol over this motherboard. No need of vaporizer, just atomizer
No
@@clayton9136 why not? It's already shorted. Lol
@@NinjaSushi2 No
IPA 100% or thermal gun
@@NinjaSushi2 I have no idea why shorted circuit would change this case. Shorted or not - IPA wouldn't affect this
You lifted the pads on that component by tugging it before the solder was properly melted
I dont think the pads on the logic board lifted tho
Nah, not even close you can still see the solder still on the traces. I can maybe guess and see why he thought that happened, it's just the water proofing epoxy he didn't bother to scrape off.
If the pads were gone it be like a whatever color the layers of fiberglass were so a black spot or if it was a multilevel board even show it'll show copper.
That component looks like a capacitor.
When i use this ,i feel my mind circuit will become shorted as well
Khub help hole vai .. thank you vhai jaan
Я думал он сейчас затянется ))
Осталось за кадром
I was over here thinking that's the wildest dab mod I've ever seen 😂😂😂
the heat from the over current shows its face because you put a coating over it so the heat will make it boil in a sense.
You could use an infrared sensor as well
A method we had 30 years ago for repairing shorts...and Cooling spray had the same effect.
Damn! This dude get his cpu stoned. Lol
That is new on me dude. That's some seriously clever shit. I will have to try this out now.
Way better than the 'ouchy' test.
@@Aethelbeorn I dunno. Sometimes you need that reminder that your alive.
Can you elaborate what he using and what is the device that he use to make it smoke?
Thought dude was about to get baked 😂
Lol for a second it looked like a crack rock vape 😂😂😂
Так вот для чего эта хрень нужна?😵🤔
А я думал чтобы гашик курить 🚬 🤣👍
Реально
Pretty sure you could do the same thing with a thermal imaging camera.
Thermal imaging implies supplying power to the damaged components a lot longer than this method. This could lead to damaging even more parts in circuit.
Yo Mr. White!!!! Smokin those glass shards!!!
I thought he was gonna smoke that dab lol 😆
Or use a thermal camera without any fuss
and then lighten your wallet by $500
@@ariewijaya1679 get a seek thermal camera and app system. It's much cheaper.
the cheap thermal cam is waste of money because the low res lepton sensor
@@ariewijaya1679 works for me. You don't need high res. Just find the hot spots or components along with troubleshooting. And an open mind.
@@ariewijaya1679 just to add .. i am nothing against this fancy smoke and magical melt .. just that its messy and possessing such equipment and inhaling rosin smoke is very shady topic ;) ...
In the laptop world the method of putting 1v through the board has a 50/50 chance of killing the cpu because the order in which cpu receives it’s power is wrong. I think it’s the same for a phone board. So the more traditional way of powering up the board normally and measuring the resistances and voltages across the board is safer imo.
True true.
Wise
I definitely agree with you even though I don't know anything about it. Because you sound wise and this is the internet.
You sound smart and that sounds natural. I agree
I'm tech nerd but I don't know much about the nitty gritty as u present, so correct if I'm wrong but maybe it doesn't affect phone boards in the same way since they may be dealing with smaller voltages? (Only my speculation)
you find indica or sativa better for shorts?
At the beginning i was like WOA. WOAA AN ELECTRIC METH PIPE like some sort of cyberpunk 2077 shιt
Or you could use alcohol and save your money.
@DragonHorze You can get 90-99% alcohol for a few dollars at your local store or even gas station, so the difference is quite allot. The cheaper price as well as it's massive availability still make it the better product for the job, not to mention it's use to clean up flux off boards so every board repair specialist already has it on his/her workstation.
@DragonHorze If you like that effect, there is also compressed air in a can. Freezes the area making it super easy to find. But at the end of the day it's up to you.
@@czpanama So you want to start building up condensation on your board when you power it up while looking for a short... Might find a couple.
@@tynewlin Hundred of experts use these products in the field. Most canned is specifically marketed to use with electronics, and alcohol does not cause shorts, it exposed them. It also breaks down and clean stuff that can cause short, and dries instantly.
@@czpanama They don't intend for you to create a layer of ice and then melting it directly on live circuits.
I thought he was about to smoke up 🤣 💨
can do the same thing with thermal camera even better but this one also works.
Cheena expertise in electronics is incredible
Also, wonderfully sticky work surface! 👍
Fabulous!!! Detecting the shortcut with a pipe of crack !!! I need to call a dealer!
Pipe of crack? That’s a battery
So that's what huntar used to detect shorts.
Im dead....🤣
Thank you for this vaping in vitro fertilization kit.
Снимал конденсатор и сорвал площадку))
И площадку сорвал и кристалл сколол. Но это видимо для демонстрации )
Looks exactly like shatter. I'm sitting here begging for it to not be shatter hahaha
Or use flir cam. Awesome and cheap idea. Thanks!
Flir cams are a few hundred dollars, rosin and a heater rod are a lot less expensive.
Flir cam is cheap???
Who is ur math teacher ?
Plz let us know...
Since when are flir cameras cheap? Are you looking at Wish knockoffs?
Flir Cameras cost hundreds of dollars, do you think it's cheap ? Alcohol trick also will do the job fine but method on the video makes it even easier.
When the local crackhead that offers to repair everything actually gets someone to entrust their device with him
The only thing missing is an outro with Jesse saying, "Yeah, Science!"
Mmm this is nice. Didn't realize they were making e-crack pipes.
Yea everything is going to electric.
Right but none of this video taught anyone anything... you didn't explain what you were looking for, you didn't tell us what you were repairing... so how to do what exactly? You should take more time
Yea it bugged me too. What he did was coat everything with a film of rosin. Then he applied voltage to the device and then it smoked where the short was. Look for the arrow. My only problem is that it leaves your board a hot sticky mess.
I was about to write say same thing
What part don't you understand?
1) Was looking for a short circuit.
2) Was working on a circuit board.
3) Applied a layer of rosin to circuit board.
4) Supplied the board with power and the short created heat, subsequently melting the rosin and giving away the location of the short circuit.
5) The culprit was a surface mount fuse.
just wanted to know how much voltage is injected
Wonderful, perfect work!
BRO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A DAB
Воу! Круто, возьму на заметку))
Что происходит, я не понял.. Напряжение дал и разрыв нагрелся? А почему отбалды напругу кинул
Вкус и запах гари егошки, даже через экран передался.
Not the Toke Buddy! 😂
Excellent
I’m using my rosin dispenser for shatter. The intended use. I was wondering how dabbing would help find a short.
А если элемент в обрыве, как искать будете? Да и тепловизор это выполнит и проще и быстрее.
Ты оказался настолько же умней других, насколько тепловизор дешевле этого инструмента. Согласись.
@@vladimirguboglo4017 противник убит наповал, лаконичней невозможно
Sir. connect ground and vcc with shortkiller? or ground and any + circuit?
Классная идея с канифолью! Еще с чековой лентой делают так но там хуже точность
Can someone explain to me how the hell did he found the short, just my smoking the board?
I'm assuming that he let the smoke settle on the board so it developed a light coating, similar to how if you're in a smoker's home and for whatever reason the walls get water/steam on the walls you would see yellow drops/streaks come down.
Here he's coating the board and letting it dry so that when he later ran power thru the board the short would show up by re-melting the rosin in the specific area the short is at because the area that has the short gets really hot.
@@dsandoval9396 wow! Thank you very much!!! Your explanation is well written.
@@jetfu400 👍
Как канифолят мозги...
Тем временем люди которые обзванивают всю плату чтобы не спалить что-то ещё кроме резистора .
Was anybody else confused at first on what he was bout too do with that pen lol
This one of the classics...
Vape time
The problem with this is now you have rosin on your motherboard. It is worse than getting gum in your hair.
Isopropyl alcohol
He's giving the mother board a dab to help it calm down
Ngl I though he was about to rip a fat dab
And today on "Crafts with Crackpipes": How to overclock your PC with Crystal 😅😅😉
First off. That has nothing to do with meth. Second. That's not a crack pipe. That's an atomizer. Rosen is made from thc.
Y'all nerds that don't get high kill me. I'm still a nerd, just one that gets high.
Никогда так не делайте !!!
Да не вопрос
Почему?
"Yes mom, I swear. This is for my computer"
Now I'm prewarned about using a DMM and being incorrectly called a boomer. Grandpa used a slide rule and a laser to measured the distance to the moon.
Thx for the handy tip to go puff anywhere haha
Yeah dunno if I like this method too much. I usually thermo cam then freeze spray. I try to eliminate smoke in the work area and you really gotta burn it to get it to lay down in the mist style. It’s almost easier just to dip a solder iron as long as it doesn’t drip on the board
i like it, repair is better than throwing it away.
Que brujería es esa 🤣🤣 broma buen video
Thanks!
Lool opening chromes gonna take 5 working days
Bro thought this was about a dab pen I was wrong
Wait has the smoke shop been selling me computer tools?
My man vaping gold
I really thought you were going somewhere else with this video for a minute😅
Almost all "shorts" turn into "opens" when enough power available, then you see smoke.
When someone hands me something and says "It's got a short somewhere", I go looking for an "Open " first.
Ignore the stoner's.i just want to know how it works you apply a current?? Resistance test??