Great effort on the spending time to review the chairs! I have personally used a secretlab titan chair for 5 years and now just changed to the HINOMI H1 PRO. Have been using it for a few weeks now. takes awhile to get used to it as it "forces" me to sit in a certain ergonomic way, but overall it has helped improved my posture and less back pain.
With this chair you were like “everything is really good on this chair”… C tier. 😐 I’ve had Secret Lab Chairs for the past 5 years, as well, and have the current Titan Evo. It’s just… not comfortable. Even with the built in lumbar, there’s not much support, and the seat is like sitting on concrete pavement. Also, it’s extremely loud - everywhere it can squeak, it does. If you’re spending hours in a chair each day, quality shouldn’t be based on the different ways you can sit in it (sitting sideways in a chair is a one way ticket to skipping all the lines at Disney), it should be what chair keeps you from sitting permanently in the future.
I find mesh chairs more comfortable and require lower maintenance in this warm and humid SG weather. This is especially true for those who tend to perspire easily as fabric and leather chairs would require more frequent cleaning to keep the foam and material clean and in good shape. I'm using the Herman Miller Aeron in office and Ergotune Supreme V3 at home. I prefer the Ergotune chair more after a few days of adjusting the neck rest and lumbar support to the sweet spot. It's quite a good value mesh chair, maybe at the top range of C tier since Aeron is placed in the B tier. The Aeron mesh does feel firmer and more premium.
Thanks for sharing! Actually in my experience, mesh is even harder to clean. In the world of sofa, we commonly see leather and fabric sofa, just wondering why isnt there really a mesh sofa 🤔
IMO mesh is only good if you sweat profusely or live in the desert. They tend to be hard as seat pans, dig into your skin, and pull linen from your clothes covering them in lint.
Definitely agree with the Steelcase Leap... I managed to get a second hand one without the headrest for less than half the retail price and it's been serving well!
The shot at 1:23 convinced me to go with the embody ! I do console gaming with my feet on a footstool and I also work at a desk. Seems like it would fit both categories. I’m into just buying a really nice chair once
Just bought the Leap today and finding the lumbar very aggressive. I do like to alternate between standing, kneeing and sitting so I think overall I just need to give it a bit of time to get used to the Leap. Almost bought a second hand 6 year old Gesture for half the price. I really liked the armrests but it was missing lumbar. It also felt like there was a lot more empty space around my shoulders. Leap isn't perfect but it ticks enough boxes and I think it will grow on me over time. I did watch your review before buying the Leap and appreciate your honesty. The Ergotune was my first option, then the Leap then the Gesture. I think the Gesture would have been good too but seems to be a mixed bag online about people liking it.
I really agree with your assessment here. I love the embody, but can't get over the price, and am currently using the Steelcase Leap. I am seriously considering the Aeron as a second chair in the home and have used the original at my previous company. You're probably the first person to have mentioned the aggressiveness of the lumbar on the Ergotune and I have to agree. For the best ergonomics, we're supposed to sit with our bum as far back in the chair as possible, however, I find that doing so in the Ergotune forces excessive lumbar lordosis, which is very uncomfortable for me, and also result in me not having my whole back on the chair. If they manage to reduce the aggressiveness of the chair, I could really see the chair as a force in its price range, as while its quality is much lower than the Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs, so is its price.
i switched from Aeron Classic, to a Mirra 2. and Loving the Mirra ! i think it looks cooler, and its way more comfortable with the larger back rest, and more adjustment options, and better arm rests ! its the same tilt though
Steelcase has a new chair called the Karman, a mesh design which seems like it's designed to take on the Aeron while challenging the main downsides of the Aeron (i.e. hard frame and price). Can try when it comes out! I love my Leap V2s, but honestly it really takes in all the sweat throughout the day, unless my aircon is always on (i suppose that why it's better at the office). Always has this "ass" smell if I sit in it for many hours hahaha. The fabric also gradually wears down and gets "pulled" like an untucked shirt.
i just got a fern with the 11.11 sale for about $934 (std price $1.39k I think). Sadly they don't sell the digital knit version here. Before buying I tried Herman Miller Aeron, Embody, Steelcase Leap as well. Was torn between Leap and Fern but went with the Fern cause it felt more comfortable for me and i like the lumbar which most ppl seem to say is aggressive. and with discounts it was cheaper too. End of the day, its most important to try out all the chairs when you can and get one that is most comfy for your body. for me embody/leap/fern would have been A. i would put aeron at C cause I just dislike how full mesh feels and its very expensive too.
Very nice work mate, may i ask what desk are you using in the beginning of the video and what color is it? How did you manage to keep the cables nice and neat and not visible? 👏🏼
Im 175 & i find steelcase leap most suitable as well. Something about its back support that really stands out compared to other chairs. Also find that cushion seats are more comfortable over long hours, and some mesh chairs aren’t exactly breathable as they claim..
Steelcase Leap is really comfortable but the cushion backrest traps so much heat. I feel so hot when trying it. Would be better if you can use it in 24/7 air con room.
Hi I'm a pro video game player and - spend most of my day sitting in front of my computer. I'm looking for an ergonomic office chair that can help me maintain good posture and prevent back pain. I'm hoping you can recommend a few chairs that fit my needs.I have a budget of 300 euros, 500 euros, and 700 euros. Could you please suggest 2-3 chairs in each price range? Thank you so much
I got the HM logitech cyan version + Atlas headrest. Best chair for me too for sitting the whole day. My programmer friend recommends this too. I like to sit crosslegged, so the big and extendable seat is really good. But only 1 thing i don't like is that it's not really nice to lounge or nap, bcos the backrest don't have a large angle to adjust.
I feel like the aeron is a bit underranked here. Granted different people prefer different things. I went to a showroom with my buddy and we tried out both. He preferred the embody but i didn't find it comfortable and preferred the aeron so i bought that one. I really feel like if possibly people should go try them as they are very different and different people will prefer different ones. I will say with the aeron there is only one way to sit in it comfortably, the hard plastic rim around the seat makes it impossible to sit any other way. With that said it more or less forces you to sit properly but if you do you'll no longer have back pain like I did which is the whole reason i spent the money cuz the $400-$500 chairs weren't cutting it or would be okay for a while until my heavy ass flatten the cushion at which point they became unusable for me.
Only mesh chairs if non air con for me. Otherwise leather or cloth is too hot. I have the steelcase leap and also in office, don’t find it very good. Just decent, and great value if you can get a second hand one for cheap (below $300). I stop using it at home because it was so so hot after a while.
Hi Alex, big fan of your channel! I wanted to check with you which smart home OS system do you use and why? I'm currently using iPhone and homekit but thinking if I should switch over to Pixel and Google home
hey alex! thanks for the video im using the herman embody as well. if you need a 3rd party headrest canconsider 1 from atlas headrest (US store), it's great though takes awhile to ship.
Did you find that comfort also depended on the material and design of the back (whether there are "holes" for "breathing" and air circulation, especially if you are at home and don't wear a shirt?
I’m also a level 100 werenado Druid. Nice video man. I have the razor Iskur but it kills my ass-it’s super firm. Really thinking about the Herman Miller or secret lab. What’s the best chair for long gaming sessions?
the best chair is one that doesnt flick over , lol , that feeling of falling off the chair , horrendous , a must test when i look for a chair , think the base measurement matters , too short width probably cant sit with leg on table
The embody is underwhelming and makes too much noise, feels cheap. The arm rests are terrible and it doesn’t tilt far back enough and the butt pad lifts during tilt. I don’t understand the hype. The aeron felt premium and has the best arms rests in the game. It supports great posture without having to adjust the back every time and I can sit in it for hours.
@@AlexTeo i personally tried multiple brands as well. Before deciding on my martian gear. However this model no longer in production. Its a mix of mesh and leather. 🤣
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Finally someone who can speak truths about the chairs to cut through all the marketing fluff
Because its unsponsored :)
Great effort on the spending time to review the chairs! I have personally used a secretlab titan chair for 5 years and now just changed to the HINOMI H1 PRO. Have been using it for a few weeks now. takes awhile to get used to it as it "forces" me to sit in a certain ergonomic way, but overall it has helped improved my posture and less back pain.
Yeah i think the hinomi is a good choice for its price and if you like mesh chair with a lumbar support
With this chair you were like “everything is really good on this chair”… C tier. 😐
I’ve had Secret Lab Chairs for the past 5 years, as well, and have the current Titan Evo. It’s just… not comfortable. Even with the built in lumbar, there’s not much support, and the seat is like sitting on concrete pavement. Also, it’s extremely loud - everywhere it can squeak, it does.
If you’re spending hours in a chair each day, quality shouldn’t be based on the different ways you can sit in it (sitting sideways in a chair is a one way ticket to skipping all the lines at Disney), it should be what chair keeps you from sitting permanently in the future.
I find mesh chairs more comfortable and require lower maintenance in this warm and humid SG weather. This is especially true for those who tend to perspire easily as fabric and leather chairs would require more frequent cleaning to keep the foam and material clean and in good shape.
I'm using the Herman Miller Aeron in office and Ergotune Supreme V3 at home. I prefer the Ergotune chair more after a few days of adjusting the neck rest and lumbar support to the sweet spot. It's quite a good value mesh chair, maybe at the top range of C tier since Aeron is placed in the B tier. The Aeron mesh does feel firmer and more premium.
Thanks for sharing! Actually in my experience, mesh is even harder to clean. In the world of sofa, we commonly see leather and fabric sofa, just wondering why isnt there really a mesh sofa 🤔
IMO mesh is only good if you sweat profusely or live in the desert. They tend to be hard as seat pans, dig into your skin, and pull linen from your clothes covering them in lint.
Definitely agree with the Steelcase Leap... I managed to get a second hand one without the headrest for less than half the retail price and it's been serving well!
Nice!
Thank you for doing proper reviews that are actually helpful
thanks mate
this was a perfect video for me. was hoping to see the Hinomi rank higher but very happy for an honest comparison.
its actually a good chair and I can see why many people will get it, for me I just don't like those 2-piece mesh backrest
The shot at 1:23 convinced me to go with the embody ! I do console gaming with my feet on a footstool and I also work at a desk. Seems like it would fit both categories. I’m into just buying a really nice chair once
yup with a warranty of 12 yrs!
Just when i am searching for office desk / chair, your review came in clutch :) thanks!
Perfect timing as always!
@@AlexTeoI might have missed out.. but if it is on your agenda, can you also do a tier list for office desk please :)
Lv100 on Diablo 4, impressive. Interesting to see the review on our office chairs.
Haha thanks wallace
Just bought the Leap today and finding the lumbar very aggressive. I do like to alternate between standing, kneeing and sitting so I think overall I just need to give it a bit of time to get used to the Leap. Almost bought a second hand 6 year old Gesture for half the price. I really liked the armrests but it was missing lumbar. It also felt like there was a lot more empty space around my shoulders. Leap isn't perfect but it ticks enough boxes and I think it will grow on me over time. I did watch your review before buying the Leap and appreciate your honesty. The Ergotune was my first option, then the Leap then the Gesture. I think the Gesture would have been good too but seems to be a mixed bag online about people liking it.
curious to know why you didn't pick ergotune since its your first option?
I really agree with your assessment here.
I love the embody, but can't get over the price, and am currently using the Steelcase Leap. I am seriously considering the Aeron as a second chair in the home and have used the original at my previous company.
You're probably the first person to have mentioned the aggressiveness of the lumbar on the Ergotune and I have to agree. For the best ergonomics, we're supposed to sit with our bum as far back in the chair as possible, however, I find that doing so in the Ergotune forces excessive lumbar lordosis, which is very uncomfortable for me, and also result in me not having my whole back on the chair. If they manage to reduce the aggressiveness of the chair, I could really see the chair as a force in its price range, as while its quality is much lower than the Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs, so is its price.
i switched from Aeron Classic, to a Mirra 2. and Loving the Mirra ! i think it looks cooler, and its way more comfortable with the larger back rest, and more adjustment options, and better arm rests ! its the same tilt though
thanks for sharing!
Steelcase has a new chair called the Karman, a mesh design which seems like it's designed to take on the Aeron while challenging the main downsides of the Aeron (i.e. hard frame and price). Can try when it comes out! I love my Leap V2s, but honestly it really takes in all the sweat throughout the day, unless my aircon is always on (i suppose that why it's better at the office). Always has this "ass" smell if I sit in it for many hours hahaha. The fabric also gradually wears down and gets "pulled" like an untucked shirt.
yeah i just saw the karman (coming soon), but it's still quite expensive. Unlikely for me to go for mesh chairs especially using for console gaming
i just got a fern with the 11.11 sale for about $934 (std price $1.39k I think). Sadly they don't sell the digital knit version here. Before buying I tried Herman Miller Aeron, Embody, Steelcase Leap as well. Was torn between Leap and Fern but went with the Fern cause it felt more comfortable for me and i like the lumbar which most ppl seem to say is aggressive. and with discounts it was cheaper too. End of the day, its most important to try out all the chairs when you can and get one that is most comfy for your body. for me embody/leap/fern would have been A. i would put aeron at C cause I just dislike how full mesh feels and its very expensive too.
yeah i am not a fan of full mesh chair too, thanks for sharing your experience!
C tier Ergotune means don't trust sponsored influencers 😂
Give them the benefit of doubt, maybe they didnt try the other chairs before 😅
Very nice work mate, may i ask what desk are you using in the beginning of the video and what color is it? How did you manage to keep the cables nice and neat and not visible? 👏🏼
Im 175 & i find steelcase leap most suitable as well. Something about its back support that really stands out compared to other chairs. Also find that cushion seats are more comfortable over long hours, and some mesh chairs aren’t exactly breathable as they claim..
exactly 100%, mesh is also so much harder to clean imo. The touch and feel of the seat used for embody is still most comfort
Steelcase Leap is really comfortable but the cushion backrest traps so much heat. I feel so hot when trying it. Would be better if you can use it in 24/7 air con room.
Agree!
Hi
I'm a pro video game player and - spend most of my day sitting in front of my computer. I'm looking for an ergonomic office chair that can help me maintain good posture and prevent back pain.
I'm hoping you can recommend a few chairs that fit my needs.I have a budget of 300 euros, 500 euros, and 700 euros. Could you please suggest 2-3 chairs in each price range? Thank you so much
thanks a lot for this. amazing review as usual.
Thanks man!
I got the HM logitech cyan version + Atlas headrest. Best chair for me too for sitting the whole day. My programmer friend recommends this too. I like to sit crosslegged, so the big and extendable seat is really good. But only 1 thing i don't like is that it's not really nice to lounge or nap, bcos the backrest don't have a large angle to adjust.
thanks for sharing!
I feel like the aeron is a bit underranked here. Granted different people prefer different things. I went to a showroom with my buddy and we tried out both. He preferred the embody but i didn't find it comfortable and preferred the aeron so i bought that one. I really feel like if possibly people should go try them as they are very different and different people will prefer different ones. I will say with the aeron there is only one way to sit in it comfortably, the hard plastic rim around the seat makes it impossible to sit any other way. With that said it more or less forces you to sit properly but if you do you'll no longer have back pain like I did which is the whole reason i spent the money cuz the $400-$500 chairs weren't cutting it or would be okay for a while until my heavy ass flatten the cushion at which point they became unusable for me.
thanks for sharing your experience!
You've got a nice crib my guy 🔥👌
Only mesh chairs if non air con for me. Otherwise leather or cloth is too hot. I have the steelcase leap and also in office, don’t find it very good. Just decent, and great value if you can get a second hand one for cheap (below $300). I stop using it at home because it was so so hot after a while.
Thanks for sharing!
I've been using a Zody for a year now and I'm still love the experience so far
man, should have tried that at their showroom
had a zody. lumbar section always break after a while. very filmsy
@@mrfarmer8895 how many times have you replaced it? I haven't break mine yet. What chair are you sitting right now?
@@reevartang564 twice. Now using HM Mirra. Much more comfortable
Hi Alex, big fan of your channel! I wanted to check with you which smart home OS system do you use and why? I'm currently using iPhone and homekit but thinking if I should switch over to Pixel and Google home
stick to iphone and homekit, its better than google home
i am using a combi of smartthings and home assistant
My office uses Steelcase leaps, non headrest. Its a good chair, moderately comfortable, only problem is that the lumbar isnt strong enough for me.
Hey Alex! Love your videos! One random question, where did you get the tv console for your study/gaming room? Looks good!
Thanks for the loving my videos! Tv console bought from taobao, cheap cheap
Could you do a office adjustable height table tier list too? It seems like you have quite a few different types of height-adjustable tables
There isnt too much to talk about, as long as you got the dimensions including the thickness right, rest is mainly aesthetics
hey alex! thanks for the video im using the herman embody as well. if you need a 3rd party headrest canconsider 1 from atlas headrest (US store), it's great though takes awhile to ship.
Yeah aware of that, i actually dont need a headrest while its a must have for my other half haa
The real question is how long did you take before you got tempest roar to drop??
Stored in my stash till 80 and switched from pulverize to tornado, i probably seen at least 5 and kept 1 with max spirit roll 😂
What do you think about ergotune V2, it has a 1 piece backrest
Maybe better but most of the points i dont like about the chair still remains
my bro, where di u get the rug for ur desk? Thank you!
bought mine here, its like a wholesale carpet walk-in to buy
www.uacarpet.com.sg
whats that electric standing desk called?
Its insane the current prices of the leap, given the 20% off sale of Embody, should I just get one of those for $1500 or so?
insane as in high or low? i will still buy the embody for myself today
Did you use Herman Miller AD Xtra Office P/L to get their chairs? If not, can share where did you get it from? Thanks!
Shared in the video description
What tier would you put xchair x3 in?
i believe its only in US
thumbs up to the point where you consider putting your leg on the chair, coz i am quite sure more than 50% of us sits that way at home.
Yeah while sitting with the right posture is important but not 100% all the time!
hey for the pc mount, does it need to be drill in very deep?
Yeah anything that is heavy
It would be great if you can compare the OSIM uThrone with the others in your list. I would be interested to know. Thank you.
as mentioned not too keen to test out all those leather gaming chairs
Hey Alex, whats the breed of your dog? So cute
Dachshund mix!
Did you find that comfort also depended on the material and design of the back (whether there are "holes" for "breathing" and air circulation, especially if you are at home and don't wear a shirt?
Yup backrest and seat area material all matter, if sitting on a chair naked, then you might see the 'holes' 'printed' on your body after some time haa
@@AlexTeo I'm more concerned about air flow so it doesn't become hot or sweaty, not so much the "printing" on the skin.
Have you tried any chairs that are able to support feet? I like to recline with my feet up and am hoping to find one that accommodates my full body.
Hinomi h1 pro as shown in the video
I’m also a level 100 werenado Druid. Nice video man. I have the razor Iskur but it kills my ass-it’s super firm. Really thinking about the Herman Miller or secret lab. What’s the best chair for long gaming sessions?
well i love gaming with my embody, so goood. Ready to go minion necro for season 1!
wah... where do you work to get herman chairs in the whole office sia :O
Pretty common for tech companies :)
China brand - Sihoo is another affordable brand that can consider.
yeah the company did emailed me before
the market is huge there, ruclips.net/video/cist5QiK-yw/видео.html
May I ask how about the Osim uThrone massage chair etc?
Someone recommend to me etc
their differentiator is the massage, go try and see whether you like the massage. For me, i dont value this feature
bro did the gesture dirty
the best chair is one that doesnt flick over , lol , that feeling of falling off the chair , horrendous , a must test when i look for a chair , think the base measurement matters , too short width probably cant sit with leg on table
Haha i think most of the chair can adjust that 'falling' part, and how 'big' your legs will determine whether you have enough space
Asmongold is not using iskur. I think one of enki models ?
I am looking to replace my secretlab evo 2022 with something else. I am a big guy
Oh not iskur? I actually tried all their chair and none feel comfortable, so what you going to replace?
whats the S tier? i dont know those chairs without some sort of identification.
The embody is underwhelming and makes too much noise, feels cheap. The arm rests are terrible and it doesn’t tilt far back enough and the butt pad lifts during tilt. I don’t understand the hype. The aeron felt premium and has the best arms rests in the game. It supports great posture without having to adjust the back every time and I can sit in it for hours.
yeah comfort is very subjective down to individual, similarly the fern and aeron are not for me
Secretlab Titan is horrible, the seat is too hard and there is zero lumbar feel to it. It hurts just sitting in it for 30 mins.
thanks for sharing your experience!
chair tierlist uwu
Martian gear?
explained at 4:50
@@AlexTeo Not the secretlab type the mesh type ahaha
@@AdenPhua probably the same fate as secretlab's mesh chair then haa
@@AlexTeo i personally tried multiple brands as well. Before deciding on my martian gear. However this model no longer in production. Its a mix of mesh and leather. 🤣
@@AlexTeo ruclips.net/video/Uq7XDlEqEgw/видео.html
the gaming chair i have is the monobloc chair with christmas lights behind
Hello fellow Salesforce employee ....
hi there :)
I have the ikea chair and it’s hard lol
which ikea chair?
Secretlab it's super uncomfortable.. E tier
0:26 ight im out
Promo`SM
lol i use my stool
Nice!