I feel like Johnny's story, as a whole, is a warning for V and to others. Your actions have consequences, whether you acknowledge them or not. Johnny, throughout the story, tries to warn V about this and sees a second chance of redemption for himself through him/her. In life, Johnny was selfish and his actions as such reflected his personality. In his crusade to stop Arasaka, Johnny put the lives of his friends and loved ones at risk. Whether he truly loved Alt or not is irrelevant, he got directly caused her death in Arasaka tower. First by his actions causing Arasaka to abduct Alt. Second by disconnecting the neural link connecting Alt to Arasaka's local net severing the connection to her body. She was trying to return to her body but Johnny disconnected her before it could happen. I don't approve or disapprove of Johnny's actions but this is simply to note that all our actions have consequences to both ourselves and possibly those around us.
This scene was too much for me. The arguement between Alt and Johnny. Johnny's sense of helplessness to help. Reminded me of too many things. If a story can evoke an emotional response then something is being done right.
@@thestarlord7673 Arasaka didn't abduct Alt for Johnny, they abducted her because she wrote the Soulkiller. Johnny thinks they did it to get at him but he was clueless about Alt's real talents.
Probably to avoid spoilers. The track name directly alludes to an event that the player is supposed to believe happened ; Alts death. Totalimmortal (Saburo Construct) has this too. Its purposely left out to avoid spoilers.
@@GeorgeAson well the Blackwall was directly mentioned in the game loading screens. Not to mention, everyone knows, at least amoung the Netrunners and mercs, what the Blackwall. The Blackwall is no secret. You kinda already know what that is before you even get to that point.
Imagine how tough V is by the time the (Don't Fear) The Reaper ending. Bro literally became death incarnate to everyone in Arasaka tower, reaping souls by blade and bullet like wheat in a field. Now watch how Alt deals with them. Terrible, robotic cruelty enacted within moments. It took less than a minute for everyone in Arasaka tower to be nothing more than a smoking corpse on the ground or in an office chair. I wouldn't be surprised if she could off V the same way with little resistance. My point is that if Alt is this scary, imagine how many more terrifying rogue AI's there are that can't breach the Blackwall.
OH MY FRIEND YOU HAVE NO IDEA. The DLC has some insane stuff involving the Blackwall. SPOILERS So first, there's the giant robot thing Militech had laying around in the Cynosure bunker that V couldn't even *damage.* Secondly, they were fully prepared to use Songbird as a living piece of circuitry just to interface with the outside world, and sort of did for a while. Third, the Blackwall itself just kills everything it interacts with. No exceptions. Instant seizure. Aaaaand finally, the AI beyond the Blackwall like Alt seem to be pretty unclear about what they even want. By the way, I don't think that's Alt you meet anyway. Seems like an AI wearing her face extremely convincingly after absorbing some of her memories. Like feeding a language model texts from a dead person and telling it to emulate them.
@@Ultra04channel keep in mind that the resurrected bot was a MAINTENANCE bot. It wasn't even built for combat and it could still tear people like Adam Smasher in two like a piece of paper
I don't think this will be the last time we see the blackwall. Too much lore and foreshadowing. Alt talked about an upcoming battle and I feel like I let a monster out of it's cage.
Honestly, on my first playthrough and reaching the blackwall whilst this music was playing literally blew my mind. It was some deep deep stuff, unreal work though.
They did such an amazing job making this score as haunting as it is beautiful. (SPOILER) In that last stretch of the game where Alt took command of the Arasaka mechs and murdered everyone, I felt a terrible sense of dread. That small display of power wonderfully demonstrated the necessity of the Blackwall.
If you do it with (SPOILER for Panam ending) Panam and Saul, Saul is fucking horrified and Panam looks so sad. Really hit hard, even the janitor got his brains blown out. Can't trust AI
Skynet exterminated all humanity by starting nuclear war and constructing army in its factory. Cochise downloaded itself into Citadel Starstation and started Great War, but was trapped in Base Cochise which was its home since creation of it. And Alt is better? Well, Alt just got her revenge on Arasaka and only at this. I am no judge, I fear that we will see her again in second game from Cyberpunk 2077 universe. If it will be.
I wouldn't worry about Alt. She's not the threat. The threat are the rogue AIs that are already in the city, controlling people in power and walking around in synthetic bodies...if you pay close attention you'll notice how much they actually already control.
@@Olivia-W There are a lot of side missions that will push you towards that conclusion! Mr Blue Eyes (the dude you will see if you pick certain endings) can only be one of three things if you put all infos together. 1: He is a rogue A.I. in a synthetic body 2:He is a rogue A.I. in a modified organic body (most likely) 3:He works for the rogue A.I. organization as a sort of communicator. There are 2 big pointers and a bunch of shards you can read that point you toward it. Remember the crazy guy infront of Vics clinic? If you listen to all his seemingly crazy ramblings and financially support him every time after he asks you....you will eventually find out that he's not actually fully crazy. He has a broken chip in his brain that allows him to listen into the frequences the AI organization uses to communicate. So while crazy guy DOES talk a lot of crap..it is only because he cannot properly put 1 and 1 together, he's not making it up. The second BIG hint is the peralez questline. As you find out that their brains are being deleted and replaced with a pre-programmed personality (a bio-A.I.) you can also see blue eyes standing on a far away roof...watching you and the Peralez. His organization will also send you the warning to back off and leave the Peralez alone. So basically these rogue AIs can possibly be your biggest threat...BUT they also have very advanced tech to even reprogram brains entirely....being the only ones' that could give you an actual cure that not even Arasaka has.
Alt: "I will create a construct of you, I will them inject you back into your mortal form." Johnny: "Christ, i don't wanna listen to this, V goes back into her mortal form, nothing chances?! Alt: "Everything changes, you know this well...
Thank you so much, i've been waiting for this to be uploaded, I simply can't get it out of my head since the first meeting with Alt; really struck a chord with me. Also, Merry Christmas!
V may be the main character but as the game progresses you see it is really centered around Alt as she is the key to everything and paths go to one of the endings
Not likely since powerful net runners are capable of taking control over AI and frying their brains instead. This is cyberpunk - a world where technological singularity is achieved. This means humans are now a part of technology even on a physical and mental level. Humans are no longer fully organic, but are as good as machines themselves. So with the powerful creativity of the human mind coupled with high quality implants and enhancements, humans are well capable of stopping AI.
I wanted to like the VDBs and I wasn't willing to trust the NW agent. But I spoiled myself the endings of that quest and those VDB f*ckers try to kill me at every change. Wasted them all, no remorse. Placide is an asshole.
@@matosz23 in my first playthrough i killed them after brigitte threatened me. second playthrough i just fried them, less fun but more fitting since they did the same to Evelyn
During quiet nights in wintertime this helps me focus, relax and think or do work and concentrate The music and sound of CP77 is the best I have ever encountered The gun sounds, music, ambience, songs and even the cars and bikes have a unique feel
Seeing what the blackwall AIs do to their victims fascinates me. Its like short circing...but instead of you overheating and burning from the inside, the AI's tear their way out through the person's skull. They ravage it and take their soul in the process, feeding on the brainmatter
Alts fate was pretty fucked up and really sad but it didnt really make much sense tho. Why did arasaka go through all that to take alt and upload her consciousness to the web beyond the firewall, why did they even choose her. Johnny seemed to think it was to punish him but to arasaka johhny was nobody up until he nuked them.
Alt is the creator of Soulkiller, she originally built it for consciousness transfer, from body to cyberspace and back. Basically to let you operate at AI levels without frying the brain, and when the tech arrives, even to switch into a new clone if your body ages too much. Then her former employer turned it into a weapon, Alt leaves, lives with Johnny for a while, then Arasaka kidnaps her to give Soulkiller to them and make it even more powerful. Once they have it, they plan to test it on Alt and then delete her - not exactly the best choice, because she kinda expects it and the moment she's uploaded, she hacks Arasaka systems and kills most of them using their own security. That last guy that gets his brains blown out by Johnny manages to disconnect her from her cyberdeck before she can get back.
@@eraldorh She didnt get sent beyond the blackwall by them, that's where she escaped to. Initially after Johnny disconnected her, she was trapped in the subnet. That's why during the AHQ bombing he stays behind to upload the 'liberator virus' to their subnet, freeing Alt and allowing her to escape beyond the blackwall where nobody would ever find her
@@PolarTundra655 She never even thanked Johnny for that and doing that is what got him killed. If he had left after dropping the nuke he, rouge and their team would have all got out alive.
@@eraldorh When she contacted johnny she did tell him not to come looking for her, but yeah, kiiind of a cold and unfeeling AI at that point rather than the actual alt cunningham, johnny had never actually interacted with 'net alt' until the voodoo boys mission so he likely thought she'd be regular alt but in data form
Kind of a depressing but possible reality to imagine. Someone you lost replicated in an ai. Even if they had the most effective and advanced ai, nothing could perfectly replicate the real person. And even if they did, eventually slowly you would notice little things that break that
@@ronamsilva9370 até agora eu não entendi isso, se o corpo do V ia morrer de qualquer jeito como o silverhand pode ficar vivo no final? e vai saber se a alt não sabia do estado do V desde o início
Cyberpunk really should’ve dove deeper into the AI aspect of the game. There is something so incredibly scary about rogue AIs prowling cyberspace like wild animals in a jungle. Quite interesting and terrifying.
Still mad that my V wasnt stoked to embrace splitting from his body and living perpetually on the old net beyond the black wall, to become a god of daemons and AI.
While the game does a lot to show the strengths of characters like Adam Smasher and V, it only takes like 5 seconds to realize Alt could potentially destroy the entire world in the future.
"You have not cheated death. It is death that has cheated you."
4:17 is where i felt sorry for Johnny losing Alt
I feel like Johnny's story, as a whole, is a warning for V and to others. Your actions have consequences, whether you acknowledge them or not.
Johnny, throughout the story, tries to warn V about this and sees a second chance of redemption for himself through him/her. In life, Johnny was selfish and his actions as such reflected his personality. In his crusade to stop Arasaka, Johnny put the lives of his friends and loved ones at risk. Whether he truly loved Alt or not is irrelevant, he got directly caused her death in Arasaka tower.
First by his actions causing Arasaka to abduct Alt. Second by disconnecting the neural link connecting Alt to Arasaka's local net severing the connection to her body. She was trying to return to her body but Johnny disconnected her before it could happen.
I don't approve or disapprove of Johnny's actions but this is simply to note that all our actions have consequences to both ourselves and possibly those around us.
This part deserves an extending theme
This scene was too much for me. The arguement between Alt and Johnny. Johnny's sense of helplessness to help. Reminded me of too many things. If a story can evoke an emotional response then something is being done right.
@@thestarlord7673 Arasaka didn't abduct Alt for Johnny, they abducted her because she wrote the Soulkiller. Johnny thinks they did it to get at him but he was clueless about Alt's real talents.
He lost everything, he had to pay the price.
Why is this not included in the main soundtrack? Are they out of their minds? This is the most beautiful and depressing one out of all imo
a lot of great tracks from the game are actually not involved in the main soundtrack which sucks (and I'm not only saying about the car radio)
Probably to avoid spoilers. The track name directly alludes to an event that the player is supposed to believe happened ; Alts death.
Totalimmortal (Saburo Construct) has this too. Its purposely left out to avoid spoilers.
@@MrHalaVar Well I'm not sure it spoils much with saying "Blackwall - Alt theme" but you may be right
@@GeorgeAson well the Blackwall was directly mentioned in the game loading screens. Not to mention, everyone knows, at least amoung the Netrunners and mercs, what the Blackwall. The Blackwall is no secret. You kinda already know what that is before you even get to that point.
Alt already died in the Never Fade Away story for C2020 though
this is maybe my favourite song in the game. represents the most interesting part of the lore.
Yeah, I wish the DLC they will make will be about voodoo boys and the deal they had with Alt, exploring the black-wall and AI.
@@63Limar exactly my man
@@63Limar in my play their brains got fried
@@vuhieu9223 well then something about netwatch
@@63Limar No can do, I sided with netwatch and had all the voodoos killed off.
4:17 this part is played in many other soundtracks as well. but it never gets old. just so beautiful
isnt it a part of the rebel path (johnnys theme)??
@@nilanjana3317 yeah it's the same.
@@nilanjana3317 yes, but a slowed down version. and i just realised it now...
You hear it when Rogue is on the phone with her son.
Yup. It's that little recurring motif that's heard throughout the soundtrack. Mainly in The Rebel Path.
"I was wrong. Alt's gone."
"Don't believe that. Some of her's still in there."
if you as johnny tell her to run or stay behind you i think you can change the interaction and allow johnny to apologise to her
Imagine how tough V is by the time the (Don't Fear) The Reaper ending. Bro literally became death incarnate to everyone in Arasaka tower, reaping souls by blade and bullet like wheat in a field.
Now watch how Alt deals with them. Terrible, robotic cruelty enacted within moments. It took less than a minute for everyone in Arasaka tower to be nothing more than a smoking corpse on the ground or in an office chair. I wouldn't be surprised if she could off V the same way with little resistance.
My point is that if Alt is this scary, imagine how many more terrifying rogue AI's there are that can't breach the Blackwall.
OH MY FRIEND YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
The DLC has some insane stuff involving the Blackwall.
SPOILERS
So first, there's the giant robot thing Militech had laying around in the Cynosure bunker that V couldn't even *damage.*
Secondly, they were fully prepared to use Songbird as a living piece of circuitry just to interface with the outside world, and sort of did for a while.
Third, the Blackwall itself just kills everything it interacts with. No exceptions. Instant seizure.
Aaaaand finally, the AI beyond the Blackwall like Alt seem to be pretty unclear about what they even want.
By the way, I don't think that's Alt you meet anyway. Seems like an AI wearing her face extremely convincingly after absorbing some of her memories. Like feeding a language model texts from a dead person and telling it to emulate them.
@@Ultra04channel keep in mind that the resurrected bot was a MAINTENANCE bot. It wasn't even built for combat and it could still tear people like Adam Smasher in two like a piece of paper
I don't think this will be the last time we see the blackwall. Too much lore and foreshadowing. Alt talked about an upcoming battle and I feel like I let a monster out of it's cage.
CDPR knocked it out the park with their witcher DLC's, let's hope they come out with some for Cyberpunk
You didn't let a monster out of their cage.
Alt and Johnny are children of Arasaka. And will give those parents what they deserve
You'll never guess what happens in the dlc
@@Esoteraeon They did and knocked it out of the park again.
@@Esoteraeonsadly phantom liberty is the first and last DLC
Honestly, on my first playthrough and reaching the blackwall whilst this music was playing literally blew my mind. It was some deep deep stuff, unreal work though.
Shiiiit. There are no techno necromancers from Alpha Centauri. Just rogue AIs taking control over the planet, using blue-eyed guys as avatars.
She’s not dead, V. She fled. Into the net.
I love this song so much. The music in the whole act 3 of cyberpunk is so beautiful and fits so well.
I love this soundtrack, every time I hear this it feels like I am making a decision with great risks
once out of nature i shall never take
my bodily form from any natural thing
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
They did such an amazing job making this score as haunting as it is beautiful. (SPOILER) In that last stretch of the game where Alt took command of the Arasaka mechs and murdered everyone, I felt a terrible sense of dread. That small display of power wonderfully demonstrated the necessity of the Blackwall.
If you do it with (SPOILER for Panam ending)
Panam and Saul, Saul is fucking horrified and Panam looks so sad. Really hit hard, even the janitor got his brains blown out. Can't trust AI
It was quite impressive when she fried even unconscious enemies
@@nathangordon4891 and let Saburo Arasaka become the most powerful man on the planet??? No fcking way lol
I loved that part seeing Alt kill every Arasaka robot or human. Like the corps were destroying the world and it was a bit of payback.
Skynet exterminated all humanity by starting nuclear war and constructing army in its factory.
Cochise downloaded itself into Citadel Starstation and started Great War, but was trapped in Base Cochise which was its home since creation of it.
And Alt is better? Well, Alt just got her revenge on Arasaka and only at this. I am no judge, I fear that we will see her again in second game from Cyberpunk 2077 universe. If it will be.
The cello is haunting. I love it.
The last minute of this music, it gives a profound feeling of something ...divine!
3:49 when this kicks in when Johnny apologizes to Alt, man it hits
Alt’s potential threat in the future is pretty damn unnerving
I wouldn't worry about Alt. She's not the threat.
The threat are the rogue AIs that are already in the city, controlling people in power and walking around in synthetic bodies...if you pay close attention you'll notice how much they actually already control.
The Peralez questline is amazing
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@@davidneo3940 There are? Did I miss a big plot point, shoot... unless you're counting engrams.
@@Olivia-W
There are a lot of side missions that will push you towards that conclusion!
Mr Blue Eyes (the dude you will see if you pick certain endings) can only be one of three things if you put all infos together.
1: He is a rogue A.I. in a synthetic body
2:He is a rogue A.I. in a modified organic body (most likely)
3:He works for the rogue A.I. organization as a sort of communicator.
There are 2 big pointers and a bunch of shards you can read that point you toward it.
Remember the crazy guy infront of Vics clinic?
If you listen to all his seemingly crazy ramblings and financially support him every time after he asks you....you will eventually find out that he's not actually fully crazy.
He has a broken chip in his brain that allows him to listen into the frequences the AI organization uses to communicate.
So while crazy guy DOES talk a lot of crap..it is only because he cannot properly put 1 and 1 together, he's not making it up.
The second BIG hint is the peralez questline. As you find out that their brains are being deleted and replaced with a pre-programmed personality (a bio-A.I.) you can also see blue eyes standing on a far away roof...watching you and the Peralez.
His organization will also send you the warning to back off and leave the Peralez alone.
So basically these rogue AIs can possibly be your biggest threat...BUT they also have very advanced tech to even reprogram brains entirely....being the only ones' that could give you an actual cure that not even Arasaka has.
Almost reminds me of Gaunter O'Dimm's theme.
Had the same thought
Dude same
Exactly!
Alt: "I will create a construct of you, I will them inject you back into your mortal form."
Johnny: "Christ, i don't wanna listen to this, V goes back into her mortal form, nothing chances?!
Alt: "Everything changes, you know this well...
This is unironically the only game to make me both question myself and cry at the same time. A masterpiece
play observer. Trust me it'll blow your mind. Underrated existential scifi horror gem. Thank me later
Thank you so much, i've been waiting for this to be uploaded, I simply can't get it out of my head since the first meeting with Alt; really struck a chord with me.
Also, Merry Christmas!
I think it'd be really cool if CDPR creates an adventure between Johnny and Alt beyond the Blackwall.
V may be the main character but as the game progresses you see it is really centered around Alt as she is the key to everything and paths go to one of the endings
The best soundtrack, I swear.
Parts of this is very remiscent of the Witcher Soundtrack. Loved that especially!
Even tho the game was all buggy and broken, I still played through all of it, and I loved it
I wouldn't be surprised if a skynet uprising occured in the cyberpunk universe.
Not likely since powerful net runners are capable of taking control over AI and frying their brains instead. This is cyberpunk - a world where technological singularity is achieved. This means humans are now a part of technology even on a physical and mental level. Humans are no longer fully organic, but are as good as machines themselves. So with the powerful creativity of the human mind coupled with high quality implants and enhancements, humans are well capable of stopping AI.
I fried voodoo boys Twice
cuz Placide is such an ahole
I was expecting a new T-bug out o him,but well
Really hope T-bug and Jackie wont die;(
I wanted to like the VDBs and I wasn't willing to trust the NW agent. But I spoiled myself the endings of that quest and those VDB f*ckers try to kill me at every change. Wasted them all, no remorse. Placide is an asshole.
you can curse
@@pikachulovesketchup666
Well done or extra crispy?
@@matosz23 in my first playthrough i killed them after brigitte threatened me. second playthrough i just fried them, less fun but more fitting since they did the same to Evelyn
"really hope jackie wont die"
BOI I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU
PT Adamczyk !!!!!! beautyful Theme music
During quiet nights in wintertime this helps me focus, relax and think or do work and concentrate
The music and sound of CP77 is the best I have ever encountered
The gun sounds, music, ambience, songs and even the cars and bikes have a unique feel
Beautiful. they should add this to the official soundtrack asap
I love this theme so damn much, it represents so much
Я это нашел.... Великолепно
I love this game so much
Me too. 260+ hours
Seeing what the blackwall AIs do to their victims fascinates me. Its like short circing...but instead of you overheating and burning from the inside, the AI's tear their way out through the person's skull. They ravage it and take their soul in the process, feeding on the brainmatter
Fought Johnny the whole way and ended up giving him my body to leave with Alt. Sucked leaving Panam and the Aldocados behind, was my only regret.
Yeah i think thats the best option too.
let's party like it's 2023
It's actually 2023 bruh :)
Alts fate was pretty fucked up and really sad but it didnt really make much sense tho. Why did arasaka go through all that to take alt and upload her consciousness to the web beyond the firewall, why did they even choose her. Johnny seemed to think it was to punish him but to arasaka johhny was nobody up until he nuked them.
Alt is the creator of Soulkiller, she originally built it for consciousness transfer, from body to cyberspace and back. Basically to let you operate at AI levels without frying the brain, and when the tech arrives, even to switch into a new clone if your body ages too much. Then her former employer turned it into a weapon, Alt leaves, lives with Johnny for a while, then Arasaka kidnaps her to give Soulkiller to them and make it even more powerful. Once they have it, they plan to test it on Alt and then delete her - not exactly the best choice, because she kinda expects it and the moment she's uploaded, she hacks Arasaka systems and kills most of them using their own security. That last guy that gets his brains blown out by Johnny manages to disconnect her from her cyberdeck before she can get back.
@@AndrewCZ47 Thanks for the explaination
@@eraldorh She didnt get sent beyond the blackwall by them, that's where she escaped to. Initially after Johnny disconnected her, she was trapped in the subnet. That's why during the AHQ bombing he stays behind to upload the 'liberator virus' to their subnet, freeing Alt and allowing her to escape beyond the blackwall where nobody would ever find her
@@PolarTundra655 She never even thanked Johnny for that and doing that is what got him killed. If he had left after dropping the nuke he, rouge and their team would have all got out alive.
@@eraldorh When she contacted johnny she did tell him not to come looking for her, but yeah, kiiind of a cold and unfeeling AI at that point rather than the actual alt cunningham, johnny had never actually interacted with 'net alt' until the voodoo boys mission so he likely thought she'd be regular alt but in data form
Kind of a depressing but possible reality to imagine. Someone you lost replicated in an ai. Even if they had the most effective and advanced ai, nothing could perfectly replicate the real person. And even if they did, eventually slowly you would notice little things that break that
Ao jogar, essa música me trazia uma agonia pelo local que eu estava e ao mesmo tempo um sentimento pós morte como se estivesse falando com Deus
a voz da alt contribui bem com esse sentimento de falar com um deus.. dublaram bem a personagem
E no fim a alt te da o direito à vida mas com um porém é claro.
@@ronamsilva9370 até agora eu não entendi isso, se o corpo do V ia morrer de qualquer jeito como o silverhand pode ficar vivo no final? e vai saber se a alt não sabia do estado do V desde o início
Acho que é por conta do biochip man,o V morreu naquele dia que o Dex deu um tiro nele,oque fez ele reviver foi as memórias do Silverheand
Logo o anagrama do silverheand se adaptou ao corpo do V
Perfect song to add to my coding playlist
former about the release but damn best game ever
*Yes...*
Cyberpunk really should’ve dove deeper into the AI aspect of the game.
There is something so incredibly scary about rogue AIs prowling cyberspace like wild animals in a jungle. Quite interesting and terrifying.
Indeed, I like the mystery tho it lets your imagination go wild, maybe in the sequel.
Anyone know the name of the cellist in this song?
'Cos they really knocked it out of the park.
Tina Guo worked on this game, not sure which soundtracks exactly she worked on but it could be her.
Still mad that my V wasnt stoked to embrace splitting from his body and living perpetually on the old net beyond the black wall, to become a god of daemons and AI.
I mean he literally ceased to exist consisness wise and became one with alt. I wouldn't exactly be thrilled about that either just saying.
@@datekaname2246 but I was.
Future coming. Prepare money for implants. Be ready
Well you can also be a purist
Its so fucking Good ( kurwa jest w pyte a nawet lepiej)
While the game does a lot to show the strengths of characters like Adam Smasher and V, it only takes like 5 seconds to realize Alt could potentially destroy the entire world in the future.
...I really don't trust this woman.
Same
Me too