As a turkish who met with too many kangals, i can say that the foreign trainers have zero idea about kangal. If you socialize them well, they are the one of sweetist dog breeds.
I wasn't offended. In the most part you are right. Watching RUclips videos about them makes them look bad to most. Like any other Dogs they act right around people. Chows are the ones you got to count your fingers around. That breed has anger management issues. LOL.@@darkOmenGo
When dogs are playing well, they take turns in the dominant/submissive role. It's good that he lets the old-timer take a turn at the dominant. It shows good and healthy play. A very mentally healthy dog you have there.
I lost my 12 yr old male Kangal just before COVID. Smartest dog I've ever seen, bar none. Unfixed per the the seller's wishes. But I'd never even DREAM of letting him play at a dog park in a major U.S. city. He was, without exception, HIGHLY dog agressive. I also had a female Cane Corso who passed at 14 y.o., 2 yrs before him. Like yours, he could play with the female and me, but that was about it. At 14 mths he was, like your boy, beautiful. But he was a handful! He was close to 180lbs at his highest weight and could easily dislocate my shoulder with a powerful pull on the leash. But he was so damn easy to train as I look back on it. So smart! Amazing protector of property and an accutely sensitive family dog (I used to take him with me to Florida in the winter to visit my elderly parents). He could adjust and customize himself in an instant. His presence alone kept all other dogs, except those who wanted to try to challenge him, far away. As a responsible dog parent, I never let that happen, but God were there some scary moments in those 12 yrs. I live in an area of the city (pre-COVID) where a big dog like a Kangal is a preferred deterrent for break-ins, opportunity crime, etc. But for me, this was NOT the type of dog to take to a dog park with other dogs, imho, unless the owner is looking for a serious liability lawsuit for injury to another's animal.
I'm really happy you shared that. Sorry for your loss. A lot has changed since this video. My dog is now just over 2 and our dog park days are over for all the reasons you have mentioned. I just don't feel its fair to him or other new dogs he dose not know to take him there. We are ok with nature hikes and I'm sure there is lots more to learn as time goes on
Ash's behavior is spot-on what kangal should behave like - no unnecessary aggression or conflicts. These shepherd dogs always lived in packs and should not display hostility toward other dogs for no reason. Also, from my experience with 4 different shepherd dogs, some of the breads are very energy-conscious and simply try to conserve it for real guarding actions.
@@ashthekangal You shouldn't allow him to jump up on old dogs. Their hips and joints are or could be bad. That is common sense. But nice social dog. You lucky with that in a Kangal. ussual anything they don't know is the enemy.
Kangals are such a powerful and high energy breed which REQUIRE an experienced and committed owner, so many people get one just because they're "cool" in an aesthetic sense with no understanding of what it means to live with this breed. So awesome to see such a sharp and insightful owner who truly understands dog sociodynamics and is able to make this particular breed thrive.
Well thats an Casus you can sadly spread ony many many Pet breeds. We had Bobtails, GSD, and one Briad.All trained and socialized, as i learned it as pree teen already from an friend of my Dad, police K9 Officer. The only animal i really were cautions about were our old Male Cat Gregor. Grannys most beloved, and as She went, If He was upset or were endangered in his Mindset by any actual Event, you better stand off, or face 5 Weapons. And like any Cat, He did go straight for the Eyes. got 4 Cats now, one per/MC Mix, 3 Maine Coonies. biggest dog like fluffy Jerks i ever met. Its 99,5% not the Pet, its the upbrining and the owner.
I've just discovered your channel, and I want to express my gratitude for showcasing the positive aspects of Kangals. I happen to have one myself. It truly bothers me when people discuss Kangals as if they're nothing more than aggressive, strong, and dangerous dogs. While they are undeniably powerful, they're also incredibly gentle. Your videos resonate with me, and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with Ash. Thanks for spreading the love and understanding about these amazing dogs!
You've done a phenomenal job with Ash! I have a 3 year old Alibai, female, 190lbs, we can't take her to the dog park, she's aggressive with strange female dogs, she's same gender aggressive/dominant. She is good with other female dogs she was raised with, or knows. We have a male Newf as well, and they get along great. Great vid, great insight into dog behaviour, and what to watch for.
Thank you. Unfortunately I think it's a LGD thing this happens because Ash has developed these traits too now that he is 2 and a half (this video was made over a year ago).
My Anatolian does ok at the dog park, but she would rather be running in the woods. She is 124 pounds, so she is generally the biggest dog, and she tolerates small breeds really well. Sizes the bigger dogs up for threat level. Always on the job.
My 6 yr old Kangal Kentucky Rucus (Rook) is the smartest being I have ever met. He is the love of my life. They are not an animal that should be kept inside or in a smaller area like a back yard or house. They take 24 hr a day care if not out with a herd. They are misunderstood because of their intelligence. Not a pet. Thanks for posting, I appreciate seeing another kangal in a similar situation.
Kangals are seriously territorial and they consider these park as their territory and Kangals want other dogs to obey them as a result. Ash may start correcting other dogs more strenuously as he ages. Then he could be labeled dangerous. I'm not a fan of dog parks because of the unpredictability of other dogs and I never take my dog to them.
The biggest problem is people bringing their Dogs to the park as adults when they should start them as pups. When Dogs grow up around each other hardly ever a problem and turn into one big family. At my local Dog Park there is an Irish Wolfhound that hangs out that makes sure everybody plays nice. My Bull Mastiff that is looked at as a bad boy breed but loves other Dogs and has never had a problem with others or been a problem him self because he's been going there since he was a pup.
@@neganrex5693 Yes, all dog breeds should be socialized to other dogs early. I have seen so many owners bring dogs that have rarely left their own properties or haven't been around other dogs go to a park and the owner thinks dogs are like kids and will just know how to deal with the other dogs. Also the owner doesn't know their dogs limits or triggers and don't watch out for them. They spend their time chatting and forget they have the responsibility to watch over their dog.
Socializing helps very relatively with these dogs. As they mature, same sex aggression develops and sooner or later they will fight. Fights between two equal males are short without serious injuries, but small old dogs can be badly beaten. This is in their nature. You have to accept that the Kangal is not an ideal dog park breed.
@@neganrex5693 You're absolutely right. I would also add that these large powerful breeds should also have be properly trained to abide to commands on first call if they are brought to dog parks. I have a 135 pound Rottie who is definitely dominant, but he's been socialized constantly since he was 11 weeks old and had professional training at 11 months that i continued to apply with him for years. Somebody brought their 2 year old GSD (obviously first time large breed owners) to the dog park and that dog instantly attacked my Rottie as soon as they let him off the leash. My dog retaliated by taking it down and holding it by the side of his neck. The second I told him off he was back at my side but the GSD initiated by biting into his leg which resulted in me having to take him to the vet to get it cleaned out and we all know vets aren't cheap. I just wish people understood that dogs should have a level of socialization and training before going to the dog park, because it could be dangerous if not. I'm just glad that GSD attacked my Rottie and not a smaller dog that could have ended in something tragic.
The most sweet video, super intelligent how the Kangal relaizes his soze to get low, lay on ground to brimg himself to physical level of the other dogs... show desire to be social and inviting... just brilliant! His coat is beautiful...if you feed and run this guy hell tuen imto a beast!! Look at Ash allow the old time alpha have some upper hand by letting him get on top of aash as Ash puts his head down, hes clearly allowing it and then resumes dom posture...amazing intelligence ans awareness for the others age to quickly again to show hes non threatening but capable..
Ash was being corrected by the sheltie. The sheltie was alleviating some of the tension because the play between the mastiff and Ash was play but was also a dominance battle that can potentially get a bit too rough very quickly. The sheltie was just creating a distraction and was letting Ash know to not get too rough. If you watch it again you'll see that it worked and Ash became less dominant afterwards. Shelties are known to be one of the smartest dog breeds and they also have strong herding instincts which is another reason why they have that sort of "run in a nip" type play where they try and "herd" other dogs(which is something that needs to be corrected in them.) Shelties will even get to a point where they even try to herd people and that's when they've received no correction from their owners and they probably need behavioral intervention. Ash is a very calm dog and that's a great quality, however, he has some behaviors that will cause some issues in the future. Being overly dominant with new dogs to the point of pinning them is not good etiquette at a dog park and should get a correction from the owner(you.) Immediately approaching new dogs entering the dog park is also poor etiquette as that is when fights are most likely to occur because the new dog will feel overwhelmed especially with how Ash did it. Intact males in particular can cause an aggressive response in both neutered males, females, as well as other intact males. Ash is large so there's not much risk to Ash and with his calm demeanor I imagine if you keep socializing him he will receive enough corrections that he'll learn good manners and he'll become a great dog. The older male Ash was playing with had bad hind legs which is why they kept giving out. I don't think the play was causing him pain but if Ash was with me or if I was the owner of the other dog I'd have corrected the situation as I wouldn't want the older dog to get hurt. The older dog seemed fine but with a dog that age and in that condition you just don't want a hip to get hurt and, like you said, the older dog was clearly a dominant dog and when he was younger was probably an "alpha" type so he wasn't going to back down. Ash is just too big and it's not that he was being too rough but the other dog just clearly had bad hind legs and, personally, I wouldn't want to risk him being injured. I'd have looked at it as "Let the old dog keep his dignity and don't risk him accidentally getting hurt" and just put an end to it.
Excellent analysis. Ash seems a brilliant dog and the owner a lovely guy... but the owners biased analysis on some of these interactions, and failure to see what's going on and step in is a little disconcerting.
@@Denali1600yes agreed, im just watching him pin the pyranees now....this is a recipe for disaster with a more alpha dog. The trainer has good intentions but shouldn't be so comfortable with the overly dominant actions ash is doing.
And no I saw the part of the video with the mastiff and the sheltie. The owner failed to see the dog was jot causing trouble but was deescalating. Owner, you need to educate yourself more with dog socialization. There are great videos and channels even on yt. Your analysis was spotty at best. Im not surprised to see no more videos on your channel of him at the park. I must have been right that you were more intrigued how your dog shows dominance than the bad behaviour he was having at a dog park.
I agree with the comments above. I think the owner finds a lot of satisfaction with the fact that his dog could quite easily ‘dominate’ other dogs. No doubt this dog probably could. The problem I have is that the owner seems to be going to these parks to test his dog while inflating his own ego. Very odd thing to do.
I agree with this entire comment chain. I got to that point in the video and thought the exact same and kept scrolling the comments to find similar thoughts. Took a while but knew I wasn't the only one. There is often a bizarre bit of energy going on from dog owners like this that film all their dogs' encounters and narrate over them with supposed expertise. I see no difference in what that Sheltie was doing compared to the stuff his dog was doing and believe his dog was doing a lot worse than a playful nip or two from a sheltie known for that as a breed. I take my dog to the dog park and the moment I see certain breeds I am wary of... if I get any feeling that the owner has the slightest bit of incompetence, or some bizarre energy of getting enjoyment of sitting back to be entertained by their dog being "alpha", then I immediately leave. Usually that decision is made within seconds of them approaching the park or entering. At the end of the day, all these dogs coming to dog parks are house pets, including this kangal. It's not up in the mountains fending off wolves. I'd argue he needs to keep his dog in check way more than an owner with a Shetland Sheepdog... Lot of hypocrisy here. Some of these dog owners that seem to enjoy this type of dog park interaction and breakdowns of alpha behavior, staring contests, submissive positions, should probably just take up combat sports (kickboxing, grappling, etc.) as a hobby like the rest of us that want to test ourselves physically and mentally instead of living through their dog's assertiveness and checks/tests/mock challenges at the local dog park.
Our Kangal does great in public, people do like to try and pet him though and just like any dog if he isn't in the mood he will let ya know. We have a male that is currently between 200-225, incredible animal and my kids are his focus!
My former dog, and greatest friend, was a Corso. I now have a 20-month-old Presa. A year and a half is the maximum an unneutered male mastiff, or most powerful guard breeds, can visit a dog park. This applies to a heavily socialized dog with a calm demeanor. As they enter adulthood, they begin to realize who they are. After that, they'll usually just accept dogs they grew up with and get along with most new females, especially if they find them attractive. It's always wise to properly introduce new dogs. Keep in mind that not all dog owners tend to their dog in dog parks. Unlearning a bad behavior can affect training, especially a young pup. One bad experience won't be forgotten so easily. Since dogs really need to a lot of space to exercise, I found that pack walks, with dogs they really like, are very good. Plus, extra eyes from other good owners can be extremely helpful in spotting potential risks from a distance.
I don't know if you already mentioned this on your channel, but Kangals are very territorial. Once they get familiar with a territory, they claim it for themselves, and that's when it CAN get dangerous for other dogs/people. If they claim the park, for example, they will try to 'check' everyone who goes in. 'Check' as in the prison term. Their behaviour can change between territory they are not too familiar with, and the land they believe is theirs. So, for anyone considering owning a Kangal, know that these are working dogs, not pets, and their duty instincts are very strong. They have been bred for 6 thousand years for a very specific purpose, to protect their land and flock. These interactions that you have shown where other dogs aren't trying to assert their dominance are fine, but you get a lot of people who never properly train their dogs, who don't understand that you can't misbehave with Kangals like that. A well trained and socialised Kangal can behave very appropriately, but their patience should still not be tested. They are not aggressive dogs, just different personalities.
Doing a great job with the pup, keep up the socializing, with the odd human intervention, going to be a great team, thanks for sharing your big beast growing
I'm surprised how calm Ash is with the smaller male, rolling over is submissive bonding with how vulnerable the stomach is so that's a big trusting act for meeting a strange dog in play.
Ash is awesome, i have a 8 month old kangal and having trouble with socialization, he is super reactive. Working on that so he can stop being a danger for other dogs.
I’m very interested in getting a kangal dog. Watching these videos is really helpful in gauging whether or not they’re the right dog for me. I just want a big, healthy, friendly dog, that likes to be active and has the potential to be protective when need be. He reminds me so much of my Doberman/Great Dane mix that passed away last year. He was a bit of a dominant dog, but NEVER aggressive at all. He was always so gentle with small and old dogs too. I miss him so much 😢
ash is gorgus kangal . i have a 2.5 year old [anatolian , akbash , great pyrenees ]mix she found me up in the moutains of utah at 4 months old . i started socializating her as soon as i adopeded her . she loves all dogs and playes just like ash but olny for short times she likes to conserve her energy i like to say she is the oldest young dog you will ever meet. just love the breeds .
Kangal's are well aware of their sizes and an emotional dog which can chase down wolfs. Protects and tolerates every new born animal in the herds as well as children, I used to use my Kangal as a mount in the village and never seen him complain about it :D
Fantastic video as usual. I love how you see it all over the internet of how Kangals don't do well at dog parks. I'd imagine this is mostly people who didn't properly socialize their dogs at a young age and then expect their Kangal to behave at a dog park. Without early socialization a Kangal can be a big issue at a dog park. But a properly socialized Kangal can be surprisingly good at dog parks. Like your dog I have zero issues with my dog at dog parks. She's a bit over 2 years old, has been to dog parks 100s of times and has never run into a serious issue. A few times a few unruly dogs had a go at her but she nipped it in the bud quickly without hurting any of the dogs. I think if trained properly they're well aware of what is expected of them in those settings. They also tend to be a lot more patient with bad behavior from other dogs than my previous Dobermans and German Shepherds were. Usually a well trained Kangal can put a dog in their place simply with their size and strength without ever having to resort to a full blown fight or biting. Again I'm a huge fan of your videos and I'm also blown away by how beautiful your boy is. I wish you were here in NJ, we could have set up a playdate between my female and your male lol
William thanks so much for your continued support! You are spot on with your points on Kangals being socialized early on. They are the kindest dogs ever but their wrath can be scary if they are push over the edge. It would be awesome to get them together. Prehaps a summer U.S Kangal road trip is in order...
@@ashthekangal You're always welcome to visit New Jersey. My dog would get a huge kick out of meeting your dog as well. She isn't the biggest fan of humans but she loves dogs lol
@@AWwww55 As soon as she got all her shots and the vet said it was safe to have her around other dogs. Not sure exactly how many weeks old she was at this time but she was very young when I started socializing her at dog parks. When it comes to socializing the younger the better. Just not so young where they don't have all their vaccine shots yet.
What an absolutely gorgeous dog, beautifully patterned on the face. There's very clever micro-timing in his play - quick playbows and glances away to avoid being misinterpreted followed by strong wrestles with the front paws to assert dominance. The homosexual encounters made me laugh! 🤣
Ash was really reading his scent he is like your urine is giving off a high sugar intake, and a high blood pressure reading I recommend you relax more, and lay off scooby snacks for awhile.
Kangals kill wolves. and to do that they hide among the sheep herd. Ash is a very gentle and a smart dog. Total confidence. Thanks for raising such a good boy. Greetings from Turkiye.
i have a mix breed and this is exactly my dog at a dog park, except he learned that grabbing the collar was a superior strategy in play fighting which other dogs just cannot figure out how to counter
I have a female kangal, and she looks just like Ash! She is super friendly, probably because she grew up among children (students actually) instead of live stocks😄
Some Information: Kangal is a part of the turkish City Sivas in middle Anatolien, where this dog have his roots. His bite force is 721 psi- the highest of all dogs. He is a shepperd dog and he also fight against woolfs and bears.
Thanks for this video, I was curious how they are in a park. I've had two english mastiffs, a Doberman.. I currently have a Cane Corso female and a Saint bernard/lab male.. I really like the kangol, maybe my next dog.
Kangallar dostlarına güven, düşmanlarına korku veren köpeklerdir. İnanılmaz derecede zekidirler. Çok güçlü ve karakterli köpeklerdir. Sahibiyle telepati yoluyla bile anlaşabilir bunu müthiş içgüdüleri ile yapar. Tabiki bir Kangal’ın nasıl bir köpek olacağı onu yetiştiren sahibine bağlıdır. İyi insanlar elinde mükemmel bir dost ve koruyucu olurlarken. Kötü kişilerin elinde tam bir ölüm makinasına dönüşebilirler.
Cool dog!Ive been really looking for a kangal if I got some property for sheep,but man he’s really patient.lol I can watch dogs play all day if there not fighting.
Kangals are pack dogs and this doesn’t surprise me to see him being sweet with other dogs. We own a Boz Shepherd and a Malakli, as well as a Presa Canario. We don’t take any of them to dog parks. Our huge male Boz is 18 months, 170 lbs (and skinny since he hasn’t filled out yet), and is also a super sweet dog. However, he comes from old fighting lines. The only way he plays is play fighting. Our Malakli is gentle and sweet as well. Beautiful temperament. She’s 2 1/2 and 175 lbs. Both of them would be fine unless another dog challenged them…high happens at dog parks all the time and why we don’t go. That would go very bad for the other dog. You’ve never seen anything like a Malakli going off. Our Presa is just far too wary and takes no shit and when our Boz plays with her she grabs him by the collar and hauls him around. Dog parks are great until the moment they aren’t. Not worth the risk for us.
You can be proud of your Kangal. They are the only dogs that can drive the wolves away from the flock of sheep, and even hunt them. They are very easy to care for, loyal to their family and their relatives, small children even ride them and it doesn't bother them. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone too. They are the best animals a family with a large property can imagine, leave them outside and don't worry about dangers. BE PROUD OF YOUR KANGAL 👊💪
I have a kangal. Silly fun, to the point of annoyance dog. I HAD a Brindle kangal, which looked like a kangal, but was mixed w a Kars dog, and it was the meanest dog I've ever had. It had to be put down, it attacked everybody, including myself. But when it went after my daughter, that was the end. Attacked many more people before I got him, sometimes there's just a bad dog. But kangal and kars is usually not a great mix.
What a beautiful dog Ash. I love kangal dogs. You probably already know this but it might be a good idea to avoid a park if there is a strong alpha Dogo in there because they only look for sheer dominance specially towards other male alpha dogs and they are pretty powerful too. Thanks for sharing this!
Kangals are considered a type of Mastiff breed. I owned Cane Corsos (Roman Mastiff), and Great Danes (German Mastiff). At least in my experience, Mastiff breeds have great temperaments, sweet dispositions, if you socialize them at the proper age. They are very careful around children and smaller dogs.
The Kangal dog loves freedom and open spaces. If you live in a rural area and are looking for a friend who will protect and love you to death, there is no better option than the Kangal dog. He is smart, loyal, brave and his protective instinct is very developed.
Wow i have never seen a friendly Kangal like this before, most of the time they were a problem for us when we were riding our bikes in anatolia. Most of the time spherd saved us, very big and powerful dog used against wolves in Turkey as you may know..
As a person who has owned multiple pyrs, an Anatolian Pyrines mix and now a Kangal I can attest to these lgds as sweet loving protective animals. I'll never not have one. I won't get into the landrace argument on Kangal vs Anatolian. I'll go with akc and European equivalent personally. Each to there own. Sweet powerful dogs either way.
As a turkish who met with too many kangals, i can say that the foreign trainers have zero idea about kangal. If you socialize them well, they are the one of sweetist dog breeds.
As a Dog trainer we already knew this. LOL.
@@neganrex5693 Then, you're a great dog trainer and doing your job perfectly. Sorry if my comment offended you.
I wasn't offended. In the most part you are right. Watching RUclips videos about them makes them look bad to most. Like any other Dogs they act right around people. Chows are the ones you got to count your fingers around. That breed has anger management issues. LOL.@@darkOmenGo
Nothing wrong with socializing the Kangal at an early age. This one was not bred to guard against wolves or be a livestock guardian.
Isn't it the same with any dog breed?
very assertive without much violence, what an absolute gentleman
@@junglecat4480 thank you
When dogs are playing well, they take turns in the dominant/submissive role. It's good that he lets the old-timer take a turn at the dominant. It shows good and healthy play. A very mentally healthy dog you have there.
It's so funny how he just easily pushes every dog down with his paw. He's Andre the giant
I live in Canada and have only met a Kangal once before. He was a big male and he was honestly the nicest dog in the park.
I lost my 12 yr old male Kangal just before COVID. Smartest dog I've ever seen, bar none. Unfixed per the the seller's wishes. But I'd never even DREAM of letting him play at a dog park in a major U.S. city. He was, without exception, HIGHLY dog agressive. I also had a female Cane Corso who passed at 14 y.o., 2 yrs before him. Like yours, he could play with the female and me, but that was about it. At 14 mths he was, like your boy, beautiful. But he was a handful! He was close to 180lbs at his highest weight and could easily dislocate my shoulder with a powerful pull on the leash. But he was so damn easy to train as I look back on it. So smart! Amazing protector of property and an accutely sensitive family dog (I used to take him with me to Florida in the winter to visit my elderly parents). He could adjust and customize himself in an instant. His presence alone kept all other dogs, except those who wanted to try to challenge him, far away. As a responsible dog parent, I never let that happen, but God were there some scary moments in those 12 yrs. I live in an area of the city (pre-COVID) where a big dog like a Kangal is a preferred deterrent for break-ins, opportunity crime, etc. But for me, this was NOT the type of dog to take to a dog park with other dogs, imho, unless the owner is looking for a serious liability lawsuit for injury to another's animal.
I'm really happy you shared that. Sorry for your loss. A lot has changed since this video. My dog is now just over 2 and our dog park days are over for all the reasons you have mentioned. I just don't feel its fair to him or other new dogs he dose not know to take him there. We are ok with nature hikes and I'm sure there is lots more to learn as time goes on
Ash's behavior is spot-on what kangal should behave like - no unnecessary aggression or conflicts. These shepherd dogs always lived in packs and should not display hostility toward other dogs for no reason. Also, from my experience with 4 different shepherd dogs, some of the breads are very energy-conscious and simply try to conserve it for real guarding actions.
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@@ashthekangal You shouldn't allow him to jump up on old dogs. Their hips and joints are or could be bad. That is common sense. But nice social dog. You lucky with that in a Kangal. ussual anything they don't know is the enemy.
What a sweet boy. They are good at recognizing what’s dangerous and what isn’t
Turkish Kangals are so self confident, it's incredible how calm they are. That makes them ideal as protective family dogs! Calm & strong! ❤
I'm a Kangal dog breeder from Nigeria. Kangals are really awesome, protective and territorial dogs.
Got an Instagram?
Damn, Kangal's are like ambassadors for us 😂
Kangals are such a powerful and high energy breed which REQUIRE an experienced and committed owner, so many people get one just because they're "cool" in an aesthetic sense with no understanding of what it means to live with this breed. So awesome to see such a sharp and insightful owner who truly understands dog sociodynamics and is able to make this particular breed thrive.
Well thats an Casus you can sadly spread ony many many Pet breeds. We had Bobtails, GSD, and one Briad.All trained and socialized, as i learned it as pree teen already from an friend of my Dad, police K9 Officer. The only animal i really were cautions about were our old Male Cat Gregor. Grannys most beloved, and as She went, If He was upset or were endangered in his Mindset by any actual Event, you better stand off, or face 5 Weapons. And like any Cat, He did go straight for the Eyes. got 4 Cats now, one per/MC Mix, 3 Maine Coonies. biggest dog like fluffy Jerks i ever met.
Its 99,5% not the Pet, its the upbrining and the owner.
I've had 2 Kangals and yeah, they're magnificent and majestic.
Jesus that tiny beagle is a maniac! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol ole boy was getting it.
It’s really refreshing hearing your honest and real experience with owning a kangal.
I've just discovered your channel, and I want to express my gratitude for showcasing the positive aspects of Kangals. I happen to have one myself. It truly bothers me when people discuss Kangals as if they're nothing more than aggressive, strong, and dangerous dogs. While they are undeniably powerful, they're also incredibly gentle. Your videos resonate with me, and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with Ash. Thanks for spreading the love and understanding about these amazing dogs!
You've done a phenomenal job with Ash! I have a 3 year old Alibai, female, 190lbs, we can't take her to the dog park, she's aggressive with strange female dogs, she's same gender aggressive/dominant.
She is good with other female dogs she was raised with, or knows. We have a male Newf as well, and they get along great. Great vid, great insight into dog behaviour, and what to watch for.
Thank you. Unfortunately I think it's a LGD thing this happens because Ash has developed these traits too now that he is 2 and a half (this video was made over a year ago).
That is a beautiful Kangal! I've found interest in this breed for some time now and your video was informative. Thanks for sharing Ash.
He is absolutely stunning!! I love Kangals! 🥰
Ash seems so wise and well behaved for such a young doggo
i think dogs get more protective as thy grow up. territorial
My Anatolian does ok at the dog park, but she would rather be running in the woods. She is 124 pounds, so she is generally the biggest dog, and she tolerates small breeds really well. Sizes the bigger dogs up for threat level. Always on the job.
Fantastic, love your understanding of dogs behaviour in general, not just kangal. Great to see!
My 6 yr old Kangal Kentucky Rucus (Rook) is the smartest being I have ever met. He is the love of my life. They are not an animal that should be kept inside or in a smaller area like a back yard or house. They take 24 hr a day care if not out with a herd. They are misunderstood because of their intelligence. Not a pet. Thanks for posting, I appreciate seeing another kangal in a similar situation.
I love the way you think about dogs! You dont anthropromorphize them like so many people do.
A lot of people have a hard time accepting that their dog is going to behave like a dog.
@@ashthekangal You gotta let dogs be dogs.
He looks like he needs a huge hug
KANGAL THE KING OF THE DOGS.💪
Wow! It’s amazing how you see other videos and see Kangals act do vicious towards other dogs and people. I’m highly impressed.
Handsome boi, wish him a happy long healthy life
I love Ash so much ! What a great dog
Lovely Ash, he is just asserting himself, not at all aggressive, lovely dog!!!!
Kangals are seriously territorial and they consider these park as their territory and Kangals want other dogs to obey them as a result. Ash may start correcting other dogs more strenuously as he ages. Then he could be labeled dangerous. I'm not a fan of dog parks because of the unpredictability of other dogs and I never take my dog to them.
Your right
The biggest problem is people bringing their Dogs to the park as adults when they should start them as pups. When Dogs grow up around each other hardly ever a problem and turn into one big family. At my local Dog Park there is an Irish Wolfhound that hangs out that makes sure everybody plays nice. My Bull Mastiff that is looked at as a bad boy breed but loves other Dogs and has never had a problem with others or been a problem him self because he's been going there since he was a pup.
@@neganrex5693 Yes, all dog breeds should be socialized to other dogs early. I have seen so many owners bring dogs that have rarely left their own properties or haven't been around other dogs go to a park and the owner thinks dogs are like kids and will just know how to deal with the other dogs. Also the owner doesn't know their dogs limits or triggers and don't watch out for them. They spend their time chatting and forget they have the responsibility to watch over their dog.
Socializing helps very relatively with these dogs. As they mature, same sex aggression develops and sooner or later they will fight. Fights between two equal males are short without serious injuries, but small old dogs can be badly beaten. This is in their nature. You have to accept that the Kangal is not an ideal dog park breed.
@@neganrex5693 You're absolutely right. I would also add that these large powerful breeds should also have be properly trained to abide to commands on first call if they are brought to dog parks. I have a 135 pound Rottie who is definitely dominant, but he's been socialized constantly since he was 11 weeks old and had professional training at 11 months that i continued to apply with him for years. Somebody brought their 2 year old GSD (obviously first time large breed owners) to the dog park and that dog instantly attacked my Rottie as soon as they let him off the leash. My dog retaliated by taking it down and holding it by the side of his neck. The second I told him off he was back at my side but the GSD initiated by biting into his leg which resulted in me having to take him to the vet to get it cleaned out and we all know vets aren't cheap. I just wish people understood that dogs should have a level of socialization and training before going to the dog park, because it could be dangerous if not. I'm just glad that GSD attacked my Rottie and not a smaller dog that could have ended in something tragic.
The most sweet video, super intelligent how the Kangal relaizes his soze to get low, lay on ground to brimg himself to physical level of the other dogs... show desire to be social and inviting... just brilliant! His coat is beautiful...if you feed and run this guy hell tuen imto a beast!! Look at Ash allow the old time alpha have some upper hand by letting him get on top of aash as Ash puts his head down, hes clearly allowing it and then resumes dom posture...amazing intelligence ans awareness for the others age to quickly again to show hes non threatening but capable..
You give great commentary, you obviously know your Dog very well, great video and funny
I’m so in love with Ash, what a sweet strong big babyyyyy
He is like "great power comes great responsibility".
I love the kangal. ❤
Ash was being corrected by the sheltie. The sheltie was alleviating some of the tension because the play between the mastiff and Ash was play but was also a dominance battle that can potentially get a bit too rough very quickly. The sheltie was just creating a distraction and was letting Ash know to not get too rough. If you watch it again you'll see that it worked and Ash became less dominant afterwards. Shelties are known to be one of the smartest dog breeds and they also have strong herding instincts which is another reason why they have that sort of "run in a nip" type play where they try and "herd" other dogs(which is something that needs to be corrected in them.) Shelties will even get to a point where they even try to herd people and that's when they've received no correction from their owners and they probably need behavioral intervention. Ash is a very calm dog and that's a great quality, however, he has some behaviors that will cause some issues in the future. Being overly dominant with new dogs to the point of pinning them is not good etiquette at a dog park and should get a correction from the owner(you.) Immediately approaching new dogs entering the dog park is also poor etiquette as that is when fights are most likely to occur because the new dog will feel overwhelmed especially with how Ash did it. Intact males in particular can cause an aggressive response in both neutered males, females, as well as other intact males. Ash is large so there's not much risk to Ash and with his calm demeanor I imagine if you keep socializing him he will receive enough corrections that he'll learn good manners and he'll become a great dog. The older male Ash was playing with had bad hind legs which is why they kept giving out. I don't think the play was causing him pain but if Ash was with me or if I was the owner of the other dog I'd have corrected the situation as I wouldn't want the older dog to get hurt. The older dog seemed fine but with a dog that age and in that condition you just don't want a hip to get hurt and, like you said, the older dog was clearly a dominant dog and when he was younger was probably an "alpha" type so he wasn't going to back down. Ash is just too big and it's not that he was being too rough but the other dog just clearly had bad hind legs and, personally, I wouldn't want to risk him being injured. I'd have looked at it as "Let the old dog keep his dignity and don't risk him accidentally getting hurt" and just put an end to it.
Excellent analysis. Ash seems a brilliant dog and the owner a lovely guy... but the owners biased analysis on some of these interactions, and failure to see what's going on and step in is a little disconcerting.
@@Denali1600yes agreed, im just watching him pin the pyranees now....this is a recipe for disaster with a more alpha dog. The trainer has good intentions but shouldn't be so comfortable with the overly dominant actions ash is doing.
And no I saw the part of the video with the mastiff and the sheltie. The owner failed to see the dog was jot causing trouble but was deescalating.
Owner, you need to educate yourself more with dog socialization. There are great videos and channels even on yt. Your analysis was spotty at best.
Im not surprised to see no more videos on your channel of him at the park. I must have been right that you were more intrigued how your dog shows dominance than the bad behaviour he was having at a dog park.
I agree with the comments above. I think the owner finds a lot of satisfaction with the fact that his dog could quite easily ‘dominate’ other dogs. No doubt this dog probably could.
The problem I have is that the owner seems to be going to these parks to test his dog while inflating his own ego.
Very odd thing to do.
I agree with this entire comment chain. I got to that point in the video and thought the exact same and kept scrolling the comments to find similar thoughts. Took a while but knew I wasn't the only one. There is often a bizarre bit of energy going on from dog owners like this that film all their dogs' encounters and narrate over them with supposed expertise. I see no difference in what that Sheltie was doing compared to the stuff his dog was doing and believe his dog was doing a lot worse than a playful nip or two from a sheltie known for that as a breed. I take my dog to the dog park and the moment I see certain breeds I am wary of... if I get any feeling that the owner has the slightest bit of incompetence, or some bizarre energy of getting enjoyment of sitting back to be entertained by their dog being "alpha", then I immediately leave. Usually that decision is made within seconds of them approaching the park or entering.
At the end of the day, all these dogs coming to dog parks are house pets, including this kangal. It's not up in the mountains fending off wolves. I'd argue he needs to keep his dog in check way more than an owner with a Shetland Sheepdog... Lot of hypocrisy here. Some of these dog owners that seem to enjoy this type of dog park interaction and breakdowns of alpha behavior, staring contests, submissive positions, should probably just take up combat sports (kickboxing, grappling, etc.) as a hobby like the rest of us that want to test ourselves physically and mentally instead of living through their dog's assertiveness and checks/tests/mock challenges at the local dog park.
Our Kangal does great in public, people do like to try and pet him though and just like any dog if he isn't in the mood he will let ya know. We have a male that is currently between 200-225, incredible animal and my kids are his focus!
My former dog, and greatest friend, was a Corso. I now have a 20-month-old Presa. A year and a half is the maximum an unneutered male mastiff, or most powerful guard breeds, can visit a dog park. This applies to a heavily socialized dog with a calm demeanor. As they enter adulthood, they begin to realize who they are. After that, they'll usually just accept dogs they grew up with and get along with most new females, especially if they find them attractive. It's always wise to properly introduce new dogs.
Keep in mind that not all dog owners tend to their dog in dog parks. Unlearning a bad behavior can affect training, especially a young pup. One bad experience won't be forgotten so easily.
Since dogs really need to a lot of space to exercise, I found that pack walks, with dogs they really like, are very good. Plus, extra eyes from other good owners can be extremely helpful in spotting potential risks from a distance.
Really interesting. He is very well controlled.
Great looking friend you have .Enjoyed watching him
Beautiful dog
Thank you
I don't know if you already mentioned this on your channel, but Kangals are very territorial. Once they get familiar with a territory, they claim it for themselves, and that's when it CAN get dangerous for other dogs/people. If they claim the park, for example, they will try to 'check' everyone who goes in. 'Check' as in the prison term. Their behaviour can change between territory they are not too familiar with, and the land they believe is theirs. So, for anyone considering owning a Kangal, know that these are working dogs, not pets, and their duty instincts are very strong. They have been bred for 6 thousand years for a very specific purpose, to protect their land and flock. These interactions that you have shown where other dogs aren't trying to assert their dominance are fine, but you get a lot of people who never properly train their dogs, who don't understand that you can't misbehave with Kangals like that. A well trained and socialised Kangal can behave very appropriately, but their patience should still not be tested. They are not aggressive dogs, just different personalities.
Doing a great job with the pup, keep up the socializing, with the odd human intervention, going to be a great team, thanks for sharing your big beast growing
Love it! beautiful dog!
SUCH an interesting video! I could listen to you for hours explaining all these behaviors!
I fell in love with your dog, such a beauty!
I'm surprised how calm Ash is with the smaller male, rolling over is submissive bonding with how vulnerable the stomach is so that's a big trusting act for meeting a strange dog in play.
Beautiful dog. It's obvious he gets a ton of love at home. Gr8 post ✌️.
So interesting watching all the dog body language
Ash is awesome, i have a 8 month old kangal and having trouble with socialization, he is super reactive. Working on that so he can stop being a danger for other dogs.
It can be hard. 15 months is when it can get worse
Gurbette yavrum kolay gelsin paşam yolun açık olsun
Great dog and great observations.
I’m very interested in getting a kangal dog. Watching these videos is really helpful in gauging whether or not they’re the right dog for me. I just want a big, healthy, friendly dog, that likes to be active and has the potential to be protective when need be.
He reminds me so much of my Doberman/Great Dane mix that passed away last year. He was a bit of a dominant dog, but NEVER aggressive at all. He was always so gentle with small and old dogs too. I miss him so much 😢
ash is gorgus kangal . i have a 2.5 year old [anatolian , akbash , great pyrenees ]mix she found me up in the moutains of utah at 4 months old . i started socializating her as soon as i adopeded her . she loves all dogs and playes just like ash but olny for short times she likes to conserve her energy i like to say she is the oldest young dog you will ever meet. just love the breeds .
The Kangal has himself fully under control at all times and never becomes seriously aggressive, even though the other dogs sometimes challenge him
Onun Türkiyede bir adı da Anadolu aslanı. Çok güçlü, heybetli, merhametli, sadık, aslan yürekli, güzel bir cinstir.
this is a beautiful kangal
I watch another channel that features 3 beautiful Anatolian Shepherds thst guard their livestock. Such amazing animals.
Onlar nezaman ne yapacağını iyi sezgilerler 💯🧿
That male in the start of the vid is soo cute and gentle 😍
Dog is amazing kangals have me so impressed i love to see a kangal playing nice
Ash is Awesome
got to love beagle they always want to play doesnt matter what size of the dogs
Kangal's are well aware of their sizes and an emotional dog which can chase down wolfs. Protects and tolerates every new born animal in the herds as well as children, I used to use my Kangal as a mount in the village and never seen him complain about it :D
beautiful dog, I kind of with I got a Kangal instead of a GSD. Both very powerful but my GSD is neurotic and shrieks all the time with excitement
Fantastic video as usual.
I love how you see it all over the internet of how Kangals don't do well at dog parks. I'd imagine this is mostly people who didn't properly socialize their dogs at a young age and then expect their Kangal to behave at a dog park. Without early socialization a Kangal can be a big issue at a dog park.
But a properly socialized Kangal can be surprisingly good at dog parks. Like your dog I have zero issues with my dog at dog parks. She's a bit over 2 years old, has been to dog parks 100s of times and has never run into a serious issue.
A few times a few unruly dogs had a go at her but she nipped it in the bud quickly without hurting any of the dogs. I think if trained properly they're well aware of what is expected of them in those settings. They also tend to be a lot more patient with bad behavior from other dogs than my previous Dobermans and German Shepherds were. Usually a well trained Kangal can put a dog in their place simply with their size and strength without ever having to resort to a full blown fight or biting.
Again I'm a huge fan of your videos and I'm also blown away by how beautiful your boy is. I wish you were here in NJ, we could have set up a playdate between my female and your male lol
William thanks so much for your continued support! You are spot on with your points on Kangals being socialized early on. They are the kindest dogs ever but their wrath can be scary if they are push over the edge. It would be awesome to get them together.
Prehaps a summer U.S Kangal road trip is in order...
@@ashthekangal You're always welcome to visit New Jersey. My dog would get a huge kick out of meeting your dog as well.
She isn't the biggest fan of humans but she loves dogs lol
Wow. My dream dog. I have a German Shepherd and he is amazing but I would love a Kangal.
What age did you start socializing your dog at dog parks?
@@AWwww55 As soon as she got all her shots and the vet said it was safe to have her around other dogs.
Not sure exactly how many weeks old she was at this time but she was very young when I started socializing her at dog parks.
When it comes to socializing the younger the better. Just not so young where they don't have all their vaccine shots yet.
What an absolutely gorgeous dog, beautifully patterned on the face. There's very clever micro-timing in his play - quick playbows and glances away to avoid being misinterpreted followed by strong wrestles with the front paws to assert dominance. The homosexual encounters made me laugh! 🤣
Handsome dog
He is very well socialized and has great temperament
Ash was really reading his scent he is like your urine is giving off a high sugar intake, and a high blood pressure reading I recommend you relax more, and lay off scooby snacks for awhile.
he loves snow! :))
I never had a dog or knew about dog's life but listening your commentary from their actions was very interesting.
Kangals kill wolves. and to do that they hide among the sheep herd. Ash is a very gentle and a smart dog. Total confidence. Thanks for raising such a good boy. Greetings from Turkiye.
I had many breeds of dogs but Kangal is the best ever.
i have a mix breed and this is exactly my dog at a dog park, except he learned that grabbing the collar was a superior strategy in play fighting which other dogs just cannot figure out how to counter
I have a female kangal, and she looks just like Ash! She is super friendly, probably because she grew up among children (students actually) instead of live stocks😄
Some Information: Kangal is a part of the turkish City Sivas in middle Anatolien, where this dog have his roots. His bite force is 721 psi- the highest of all dogs. He is a shepperd dog and he also fight against woolfs and bears.
Thanks for this video, I was curious how they are in a park. I've had two english mastiffs, a Doberman.. I currently have a Cane Corso female and a Saint bernard/lab male.. I really like the kangol, maybe my next dog.
Kangallar dostlarına güven, düşmanlarına korku veren köpeklerdir. İnanılmaz derecede zekidirler. Çok güçlü ve karakterli köpeklerdir. Sahibiyle telepati yoluyla bile anlaşabilir bunu müthiş içgüdüleri ile yapar. Tabiki bir Kangal’ın nasıl bir köpek olacağı onu yetiştiren sahibine bağlıdır. İyi insanlar elinde mükemmel bir dost ve koruyucu olurlarken. Kötü kişilerin elinde tam bir ölüm makinasına dönüşebilirler.
Cool dog!Ive been really looking for a kangal if I got some property for sheep,but man he’s really patient.lol I can watch dogs play all day if there not fighting.
Kangals are pack dogs and this doesn’t surprise me to see him being sweet with other dogs. We own a Boz Shepherd and a Malakli, as well as a Presa Canario. We don’t take any of them to dog parks. Our huge male Boz is 18 months, 170 lbs (and skinny since he hasn’t filled out yet), and is also a super sweet dog. However, he comes from old fighting lines. The only way he plays is play fighting. Our Malakli is gentle and sweet as well. Beautiful temperament. She’s 2 1/2 and 175 lbs. Both of them would be fine unless another dog challenged them…high happens at dog parks all the time and why we don’t go. That would go very bad for the other dog. You’ve never seen anything like a Malakli going off. Our Presa is just far too wary and takes no shit and when our Boz plays with her she grabs him by the collar and hauls him around. Dog parks are great until the moment they aren’t. Not worth the risk for us.
You can be proud of your Kangal. They are the only dogs that can drive the wolves away from the flock of sheep, and even hunt them. They are very easy to care for, loyal to their family and their relatives, small children even ride them and it doesn't bother them. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone too. They are the best animals a family with a large property can imagine, leave them outside and don't worry about dangers. BE PROUD OF YOUR KANGAL 👊💪
I grew up with a working Kangal. They rarely bark, and if trained properly, they are the best dogs. However, I also find them territorial at times.
Very good footage thanks
Ash is a solid citizen. He acts like my Golden Doc
Why didn't you call him off of the pyraneese?
He should of. Seems a bit nonchalant about taking his Kangal to a dog park.
@@RotRot-jn9vk Agreed.
Very intelligent dog.
I have a kangal. Silly fun, to the point of annoyance dog. I HAD a Brindle kangal, which looked like a kangal, but was mixed w a Kars dog, and it was the meanest dog I've ever had. It had to be put down, it attacked everybody, including myself. But when it went after my daughter, that was the end. Attacked many more people before I got him, sometimes there's just a bad dog. But kangal and kars is usually not a great mix.
Dam, that's crazy. Sorry to hear about that.
What a beautiful dog Ash. I love kangal dogs. You probably already know this but it might be a good idea to avoid a park if there is a strong alpha Dogo in there because they only look for sheer dominance specially towards other male alpha dogs and they are pretty powerful too. Thanks for sharing this!
If these two fought, the dogo would be in a worse situation than the kangal
@@vcdrrjnot the point
Fair play man your dog is no problem to others thats what socialising at early age does especially with a breed like the Kangal.
Exactly
A few my favorite dogs. Kagan, or annatolian Shephard, beagle and it looks like a Redbone coonhound.❤
take a shot everytime he said dominance, you gonna have a interesting day
Kangals are considered a type of Mastiff breed. I owned Cane Corsos (Roman Mastiff), and Great Danes (German Mastiff). At least in my experience, Mastiff breeds have great temperaments, sweet dispositions, if you socialize them at the proper age. They are very careful around children and smaller dogs.
Kangals are not mastif breed. Not every big dogs are mastiff. You can check headshape, eyes, especially jowl form and body for it.
Mine was so handsome and so gentle. I really miss him.
The Kangal dog loves freedom and open spaces. If you live in a rural area and are looking for a friend who will protect and love you to death, there is no better option than the Kangal dog. He is smart, loyal, brave and his protective instinct is very developed.
A responsible dog owner is rare to find these days. Great job raising a good, humble dog.
Really appreciate the comment
Wow i have never seen a friendly Kangal like this before, most of the time they were a problem for us when we were riding our bikes in anatolia. Most of the time spherd saved us, very big and powerful dog used against wolves in Turkey as you may know..
As a person who has owned multiple pyrs, an Anatolian Pyrines mix and now a Kangal I can attest to these lgds as sweet loving protective animals. I'll never not have one. I won't get into the landrace argument on Kangal vs Anatolian. I'll go with akc and European equivalent personally. Each to there own. Sweet powerful dogs either way.
My compliments on this beautiful and very well educated big boy!!
I have a Kangal , he is a gentle boy , Mom has Schnauzers , they like him