The Number of Delta Force Cheaters Is Staggering ► Why We Need Kernel-Level Anti-Cheat

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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025

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  • @James-hu9nz
    @James-hu9nz День назад +27

    Not just DF the whole FPS scene is just full of Closet/credit card gamers theses days... just need a new law put in place so you can just put a lawsuit in place for theses companies or people that make the hacks and punish the shiters aka players who buy/fund them.

    • @Astrothunder_
      @Astrothunder_ День назад +3

      I like that term! Credit card gamers😂😂

    • @gdfsrgsdf
      @gdfsrgsdf 13 часов назад

      companies can sue cheat creators,
      most of the time it doesnt work is because the cheat devs hide their identity

  • @GwoppyTrai
    @GwoppyTrai День назад +18

    It's pretty sad that people suck so bad that they have to cheat in a FREE game. It's embarrassing.

    • @timkey87
      @timkey87 День назад +4

      actually most cheaters use cheats not because they are bad players, it's just fun for them to screw up other people's experience

    • @Minecraftassassin-b9f
      @Minecraftassassin-b9f День назад

      ​@@timkey87as well as pride ego and jealousy

    • @rythmrythm5623
      @rythmrythm5623 20 часов назад

      @@timkey87 They could have done it with pure skill too. But since they SUCK, they need to use Cheats.

    • @artkarounos816
      @artkarounos816 14 часов назад

      So true

    • @Wasa-x4w
      @Wasa-x4w 7 часов назад

      You realise this guys using anti recoil scripts right?...-.- morons supporting a cheater while complaining about them -.-

  • @PapitoQinn
    @PapitoQinn День назад +8

    I wonder if devs can implement features that can effectively be used for more accurate reporting from the player's side. For example, a killcam or spectating other players are basically tools that can be used for that exact purpose. I wonder if a dev studio has ever considered expanding on that side of things.

    • @chimera1767
      @chimera1767 19 часов назад

      I heard they are working on a kill cam

    • @jamesdomes8370
      @jamesdomes8370 17 часов назад

      Good..killcam will show how and why you died..it's annoying when you died from just two shoTs from 300 meters away from an SR while hidden

  • @Hellsing181er
    @Hellsing181er День назад +16

    It just astonishes me that they put all this work in to get rid of cheaters and then they turn around and give you character that can give you wall hacks. So illogical to me 😑😑😑

    • @francobuzzetti9424
      @francobuzzetti9424 День назад

      agreed! they should remove luna's arrow and hackclaw's scan

  • @melvinkohler4694
    @melvinkohler4694 День назад +12

    just sad that you need hacks to be good. stop hacking and enjoy the moments the game has to offer

    • @Minecraftassassin-b9f
      @Minecraftassassin-b9f День назад +1

      Yeah it saddens me to see and it all results of pride, ego, jealousy and toxicity personally back in cod WAW zombies I met 3 cheaters but they didn't ruin the experience they actually made it better and funnier
      and even though I haven't seen since then I actually made friends with them because I knew deep down they just wanted to make the game better and funnier for everyone not just themselves

  • @OGBRADASS
    @OGBRADASS День назад +7

    we need a gear cap in Easy mode, then worry about cheaters.

    • @rayemra
      @rayemra День назад

      Gear value cap below 200k. Max blue grade.

    • @sele4049
      @sele4049 23 часа назад

      @@rayemra Not gonna happen. it'll be purple armor with blue ammo like in the CN version.

    • @OGBRADASS
      @OGBRADASS 12 часов назад

      @ Yep, which I'm fine with.

  • @DeaD1te
    @DeaD1te День назад +3

    tbh i believe very little the devs of DF say, theres too many times they have shown they arent on the level, so much so that i have just stop playing the game, the SBMM in it makes every match a sweatfest, no matter how much they try to blow smoke up our arse

  • @Demy1970
    @Demy1970 День назад +5

    U need private servers like the old days in B2

  • @Soundmaster91
    @Soundmaster91 23 часа назад +1

    In OCE I can believe it, every match in operations I play, if I die from someone sus half the time I report them I get the immediate response that action was taken against the player and my kit returnee to me. That's right 50% of the time there is a cheater. Asia is massive and many players use the delta Force client direct outside steam.

  • @Astrothunder_
    @Astrothunder_ День назад +3

    Every other game now I’m running into some Chinese letters username dropping 60 bombs on my team. I think the bigger problem is matchmaking because hackers or no hackers, I’m at the top of the leaderboard getting kills, going positive, and most heals and revives for the team yet the rest of my team is playing with a Logitech wheel or something. This games sbmm is reaallyyyy starting to get reminiscent to CoD.

    • @ronniedow1139
      @ronniedow1139 День назад

      You forgot to add you can get all gold medals and still loose 20 merit with a win. This game is so biased to people buying skins and season 1 general tags. These 2 are always 80 plus kills a game and unkillable 1v4 lol

    • @Astrothunder_
      @Astrothunder_ День назад

      @@ronniedow1139 Oh God dont even get me started on the goofy merit ranked system that they like giving conflicting information on.

    • @onyachamp
      @onyachamp День назад

      @@ronniedow1139 better tighten that up then.

    • @sele4049
      @sele4049 23 часа назад

      60 kills isnt even a lot for warfare?! Let alone cheater level amount of kills...

  • @raysamu6747
    @raysamu6747 День назад +4

    a clear no. kernel level anticheat used to be the best thing against cheats. but with regard to the development that cheats have taken in the last 10 years, we see that kernel level anticheats or client base anticheats in general are less reliable. This is because the cheats/macors/etc are more based on running outside the main system. for example the cronos for controllers or the second PC cheats. these new cheats therefore mostly work outside the range of a client/kernel level anticheat and therefore have little qualitative use against modern cheats
    that means a new anticheat system needs to be implemented. and the best way to do this in my view would be a serverside anticheat with algorithmic evaluation.

    • @membranealpha5961
      @membranealpha5961 День назад +2

      at least you say why you disagree and give an actual example of an alternative. so many people/youtubers that are against kernel level anti cheat refuse to give alternatives and it pisses me off. so many just say "muh privacy" and don't go any further.

    • @klutch4198
      @klutch4198 День назад +2

      Problem is almost everything in games runs client side. Very little processing is done server side related to player actions because the latency would be atrocious.
      Everyone thinks they have the answers, but nobody else is picking learning code to solve it.
      - just a local friendly dev

    • @KarlRockSme
      @KarlRockSme 17 часов назад

      I see Valorant anti cheat system has a kernel level access to your computer, why no one complains about it?

    • @raysamu6747
      @raysamu6747 15 часов назад

      @@KarlRockSme one has nothing to do with the other. people get upset about every kernel level anticheat. sometimes with legitimate reasons, but sometimes with nonsense, of course. it's not about how to find the anticheat, but how useful an anticheat is that operates on a system level, where many modern cheats no longer work and are therefore difficult or even impossible to detect.
      I personly dohnt like any of the kernel level anticheats.

    • @KarlRockSme
      @KarlRockSme 11 часов назад

      @ You've already generalize all kernel level anti cheats are not to be trusted, so why bother playing a F2P game and ended up cheating anyways its just stupidity at this point. If you don't like it don't install it and since Steam approve the game, at least they made you aware that they have this system unlike other games who doesn't notifies users that their using Kernel level anti cheat software.

  • @halrichard1969
    @halrichard1969 День назад +2

    I have three Delta Accounts on Steam. I have been chat banned for one account a couple times. If I wanted to cheat I would already have two more accounts to move to. I play all three accounts and they are mature. Each one uses a different email address. I dont cheat as Im really only here for the challenging entertainment. Im just pointing out that cheats can easily move from one account to another.

    • @onyachamp
      @onyachamp День назад

      Dead set sounds like you have laid the groundwork to cheat TBH.
      Mouse scripts are still cheating too mate.

    • @membranealpha5961
      @membranealpha5961 День назад +4

      @@onyachamp no one has 3 separate accounts for a fps game unless they plan on cheating lmao

  • @DDPrzDDPrz
    @DDPrzDDPrz 23 часа назад +1

    I won’t lie I had amazing raids today bro. I haven’t had such organic gun fights in weeks you can tell the lobbies have changed for sure.

  • @W_I_C_K_Z
    @W_I_C_K_Z 19 часов назад

    Something to add:-players forced offline means they didn't banned they just kicked out from the match thats all

  • @double4iampoor
    @double4iampoor 8 часов назад

    if delta force is averaging 72000 concurrent players, and each play 1 hour on average, thats 1.7 million daily players

  • @BuzWeaver
    @BuzWeaver День назад

    Ghost, I noticed that you use Tactical Stance with your SMG and was wondering if you prefer your laser being on at all times? In Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Controls and Combat > Tactical Device, you can assign a Key to turn off the laser when you're not in Tactical Stance and will only come on when you're in Tactical Stance. Turning off the laser keeps your from easily being tracked, but its always available when your in Tactical Stance. Also, you get the benefit of a laser whether its on or off.

  • @Minecraftassassin-b9f
    @Minecraftassassin-b9f День назад +1

    That idea is the equivalent of cod's shadowbanning lobbies
    although I do have an idea (which might be a hilarious way to handle and ruin a cheater's experience)
    how about if the anti cheat
    Starts messing around with the cheater's controls in real time
    begins inverting the cheater's controls, messing with their ping and their in game mechanics, reducing the damage of their weapons and their health, making them move slower than anyone else or even messing around with their in game progress
    I can only imagine the cheater's reaction that one minute they're ruining everyone's experience then the next minute their controls are messed up, they somehow have less health than everyone else even though it doesn't look like it, they're moving slower than everyone else despite their ping being great and they lose all their in game progress really frustrating and hilariously messing around with the Cheater enough to make them rage

  • @codeblxc
    @codeblxc День назад +3

    No kernel level anti cheat should not be used imo the good old price for the game is the best anti cheat no cheater will buy the same game 20 times
    Why risk your privacy just to play a game and this also forces linux gamers / even mac gamers off the game

    • @MrKamikaze1337
      @MrKamikaze1337 День назад

      privacy isn't the main problem bc any Kernel AC can be bypassed with a driver. The only way to make it safe maybe is a complete virtualized game.

  • @Ozzmosis_Inc
    @Ozzmosis_Inc 18 часов назад

    Detecting cheaters would be a lot simpler if we didn't have to play against sweats EVERY SINGLE ROUND. Regardless of your skill you will face sweats every time with their version of sbmm. My gaming stress level instantly dropped after bailing a couple weeks ago lol.

  • @tonyk6233
    @tonyk6233 14 часов назад

    Okay, so I seem to be the only one that thinks this, but hear me out. The 40k player number, yeah there's no possible way that at any given time, HALF the playerbase is cheating. What that reads like to me is when players get the message of "inconsistent network traffic detected, you've been logged out, try again later". It says forced offline. If the devs/game knew someone was cheating, why would they simply "force them offline" and not ban the account or device they were using?

  • @Presgamegaming
    @Presgamegaming День назад +1

    Hackers can appear when players have frustrations unfairness in the game
    So how can we help new players?

  • @Feynt
    @Feynt 22 часа назад

    Kernel level isn't the answer. There are still games with kernel level anticheat that are being exploited. It just makes it less of a problem for a time. The better solution, one which will address more of the community without excluding Linux as a platform, is better player reporting tools like killer view kill cams, silent punishment where accused individuals are shunted into different tiers of game until they're in exclusively cheater populated lobbies, and greater server side authority so the game itself will ensure everything is in the up and up by observing a subset of players with greater scrutiny for a few minutes as they accomplish their feats.
    All of this supercedes anticheat, because it involves factors which the cheater has no influence over as the central mechanic: Other players, and the server itself.

  • @onyachamp
    @onyachamp День назад

    That was the best thing about 2042.
    Player base was low from the start and that kept the cheats to an all time low for a BF game.
    Played a few games of DF and it instantly felt suss for close to half my deaths.

    • @ShortHistory33
      @ShortHistory33 День назад

      Quick skill issue check. Delta force uses an ac called ace. Ace is even better and more invasive than valorant ac vgk. The only way you can cheat on delta force is with dma and some damm good fw hidding it. I would day that there is less than 300 total cheaters on delta force globally who cheat and dont get banned in less than a week

  • @n1kobg
    @n1kobg 8 часов назад

    On 6:20 The Virtual Machine is above Operating system. It operates in the OS. So your diagram is slightly wrong. Also its in paralel with the Anti-Cheat not over or under it.
    I agree about cheaters.

  • @jakey1995abc
    @jakey1995abc День назад

    Players forced offline has nothing to do with cheating. It's false positives for the most part. The only relevant numbers are confirmed cheaters (the first 3 stats).

  • @ronniedow1139
    @ronniedow1139 День назад +1

    explain how every single person that has a Blue season 1 tag can run in and take on 4/5 people and never die while being shot. Or how they always drop 90 plus kills a game. Same people can uzi you across the map in .1 second and when you ping them while downed there 650 meters away and down a mountain.

    • @baileymark3
      @baileymark3 21 час назад

      thems the cheaters Bro!!! I just keep reporting them. sadly they dont actually do anything about them.

  • @LucasSousa_66
    @LucasSousa_66 День назад +1

    Kernel anticheat is not a silver bullet mind you

  • @Sang-Je
    @Sang-Je День назад

    i wish it was written into a law it is actually hurting the companies and costing them money / players.

  • @shawnyscore6988
    @shawnyscore6988 День назад +1

    I just can’t understand were it’s the fun in cheating… its one thing to suck and be a low life but if at least it was fun! I don’t get it

  • @LinthusOriginal
    @LinthusOriginal День назад

    Huge forced offline number could mean from false positives or cheat probing, which would result in the player just reconnect not even realising, it also can be related to the fact that it have his own launcher independent of steam, and may where chinese or anywhere else that don't use steam.

  • @Pro4TLZZ
    @Pro4TLZZ День назад

    Just ban cheaters from servers instead and let communities maintain and implement banlists

  • @DAVE_WHITE
    @DAVE_WHITE День назад

    average of 14K per week is what they claim each week...

  • @WolfVdME
    @WolfVdME 23 часа назад

    Bans need to be on some sort of hardware ID. Be it MB, CPU, GPU, or SSD/HD. That way its more expensive/difficult for someone to circumvent.

    • @baileymark3
      @baileymark3 21 час назад

      thats what hwid spoofers are for. they use fake hardware id's so if their gpu gets hwid banned they just spoof a new id and off they go again.

  • @donnie5815
    @donnie5815 День назад

    Been playing king of the kill lately. They need to change the name to domination or conquest because that's what it is

  • @dawbra
    @dawbra День назад

    Even if they ban cheaters they ban idiots that balant cheaters, i notice with this game that cheaters are smarter in most cases they dont in top 10 in match and dont do high score.
    Other thing is the rummor of cheaters eating all better loot from containers.
    Its visible when you walk and half stuff is checked/open but you still can find blue crap there.

  • @darknetworld
    @darknetworld День назад

    Well game companies did try to make cheater to cheater map only. But will cost some server and money to do those things.

  • @Azur1200
    @Azur1200 День назад

    F2P FPS are giga fucked nowadays i would even say that they have no future

  • @Lead_Magnet_old
    @Lead_Magnet_old День назад

    Explain why there were not 40,479 10 year bans Delta Force?

  • @xn4px2
    @xn4px2 17 часов назад

    after friday i have 2-3 cheater every game... i have 500h in the game but i cant play the game longer... so sad

  • @klutch4198
    @klutch4198 День назад

    It also doesn't help having players who have 10 hours and don't know any better if someone is cheating. You need to learn the game and its mechanics first before you go calling cheater. Everyone isn't cheating - there are some sure, but let's learn how to play first before getting rolled and claiming cheats on literally everyone

  • @bubuasqw123
    @bubuasqw123 20 часов назад

    Dedicated servers rented by community clans that ban the cheaters on sight and the cheating problem is solved in 2 minutes

  • @fiuzzii
    @fiuzzii День назад

    Microsoft should not allow any application except the system one to access kernel level

  • @rickd6914
    @rickd6914 День назад

    The level these loosers go to cheat in a free to play game blows my mind. How does it not get boring?

    • @surge3158
      @surge3158 День назад

      I'm sure it's just the knowledge that they ruined someone else's day. They seem to get joy out of that.

  • @Gandy_cfw
    @Gandy_cfw 21 час назад

    Call of duty tried this system to let cheaters play in same matches and it’s really bad a lot of legit people are getting more shadow banned and put in these lobbies so really bad idea

  • @TheGreatMoonMoon
    @TheGreatMoonMoon День назад

    It still doesn't do much, it'll never do much as long as it's free to play and they can just make another account. It's the exact same with pubg.

  • @かんちょう-q9p
    @かんちょう-q9p День назад

    I bet it's more fun to fight against bot than hacking in pvp, perhaps they're just try to ruin the game

  • @GameControlYT
    @GameControlYT 8 часов назад

    Can you make a video about how its impossible to get rocket fuel in asian server.A gang of cheaters kill any one that tries to evac with rocket fuel. Only way to get it is now is to pay them

  • @beyondgreatness1861
    @beyondgreatness1861 День назад

    I have been forced offline 1 time in game. I have never cheated in a game before so was odd. So that 40k means shit

  • @JediCore
    @JediCore День назад

    if you think you need kernel anti cheat - you don't
    many games have the rootkit that acts like an anti cheat but does nothing. Including Delta Force. It gives hackers a backdoor for your PC. Just check out what happened with Marvel Rivals. Delete this video as it spreads misinformation

  • @brokenkeyboard2k326
    @brokenkeyboard2k326 День назад +1

    who would cheat in this shit game lmao

  • @artkarounos816
    @artkarounos816 14 часов назад

    I’ve always said for very one obvious cheater there are 10 more you don’t notice

  • @IllusiveMind7
    @IllusiveMind7 День назад

    Imagine a hacker spending thousands on VMWare ESXi licensing just to run multiple vms so they can cheat in this game. Pathetic. Something doesnt add up. I am sure 90% of the player population (hackers or not) doesnt know anything about vmware or hyper v or even proxmod. Most of their computers are running windows home which hyper-v is not enabled and in some cases not supported. So yeah TiMi is just making this shit up.

    • @evojezza221
      @evojezza221 18 часов назад

      VMware has a many free versions

  • @majmunmajmun5718
    @majmunmajmun5718 16 часов назад

    The same company that makes the game also sells the cheats, imagine passing up on all that extra money... There is corruption evrywhere in the world why would gaming be any diferent

  • @SomeDadGaming
    @SomeDadGaming День назад

    Damn been a minute since I seen one of you vids. Always good. 💯

  • @Sasha89SM
    @Sasha89SM День назад

    The amount of losers playing games and cheating is unbelievable.

  • @D1rtySanchezZ1
    @D1rtySanchezZ1 День назад

    ye a shadow ban on these hacking rats would be a great way to fix it, DF already say there is no SBMM, so adding a hacker only shadow banned queue wouldnt be that hard for them.

  • @lukemalic
    @lukemalic 23 часа назад

    The whole fun of gaming is getting good by learning off other good players i guess this is too much of a hit to there ego so you pay for cheats

  • @gerrysmith5597
    @gerrysmith5597 14 часов назад

    seeing this makes me worry for the new BF when it comes out Ghost - maybe I'll just play the campaign LOL

  • @swiza79
    @swiza79 День назад

    I played yesterday operations and guy headshot me being behind wall , honestly I haven't even seen him, disgusting but nothing I could do, just reported bustard

  • @alanvonify
    @alanvonify День назад

    It's strange, but they all seem to have Asian character names 🤔

    • @surge3158
      @surge3158 День назад

      I was downed today by an asian name, gun stolen by the guy who killed me. While I was down, the dude got kicked for cheating. I want my shit back 😭

  • @WarriorSoulsGaming-rs9zh
    @WarriorSoulsGaming-rs9zh 7 часов назад

    Cheaters will just keep coming back, I notice that they like 2 use the medic to keep topping up health, SOLUTION IDENTIFY CHEATERS AND SECRETLY PUT THEM IN THEIR OWN SERVER, CHEATER VS CHEATER 😂😂😭LET THEM HAVE FUN WITH THAT TILL THEY FIGURE IT OUT, IF THEY COME BACK WITH A NEW ACCOUNT THEY WILL NOT BE SURE IF THEY PLAYING WITH CHEATERS OR NOT, THIS COULD B AWAY TO TAKE THE FUN AWAY FROM THEM🤔

  • @sheepkashur3308
    @sheepkashur3308 День назад

    Hey ghost can you make a video about how you bought a property from delta force and what they do for you?

  • @TomTheSurgen1
    @TomTheSurgen1 День назад

    This is why I have yet to go pc

  • @Razuma
    @Razuma 14 часов назад

    Hope that I always have that hit reg you are having

  • @Demy1970
    @Demy1970 День назад

    Charge 10 bucks for game

  • @MacFFD09
    @MacFFD09 День назад

    I guess what your saying is that there will never be a way to counter any cheats in any game. It’s not worth buying or play these games anymore, prob why more people are just going for single player or co-op games. I’m sure when the new battlefield comes out you will prob be making the same video. I guess I just don’t understand the appeal to being a cheater. What do you really accomplish when you cheat?

    • @jesse76th96
      @jesse76th96 День назад

      Yeah i hardly play fps games anymore. It's frustrating not knowing if you died legit or not

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 День назад +1

      There is ways to do it, but must be built into the the games code. Valorant comes to mind, their anti cheat is baked into the games code. It knows what is possible in game and catches player by doing things the game itself knows cant happen. It knows what players can see and cant, how fast they are moving and so on.

  • @SynWOS
    @SynWOS День назад

    12:09 wrong. That is what ban wave system is meant to do. It clearly does not work. You are giving cheaters more time to use the cheats and cheat devs spend less time updating their code.
    Think of this way. If I was to fine you for speeding every 6 months. You would see it as 6 months worth of fast driving for 1 fine. If I was to put you on the sectioned off roads with the rest of the speeders I would have to spend resources to provide those roads. Both are not a big enough deterrent. Now if I was to fine you /ban you every time I catch you. Speeding /cheating will be a lot more costly for you and a less likely to occur. .

  • @Wasa-x4w
    @Wasa-x4w 7 часов назад

    Erm... you know anti recoil scripts are also cheating ... right ? Get them deleted ya scruffy cheat

  • @Mythbuster3808
    @Mythbuster3808 День назад

    As ilI have degree in hardware and cyber security I get what ur saying ghost. But ngl both delta force and u explained this not great. Tho tbh I don't think I could do much better.

  • @Dennyhamlin23XI
    @Dennyhamlin23XI День назад

    You think delta force is bad look at cod 😂

  • @LesPaulVOS
    @LesPaulVOS День назад

    Garbage game