The Limits of American Power - Sarah Paine
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From Episode 3 of my lecture series with Sarah Paine!
Enjoy!
I love listening to Sarah talk. Her delivery is informative, easily digested, and entertaining
And above all... Propagandized. She's good at making sound excuses and plausible rationales to justify warmongering Western empires.
@TheRealUsername how so? She's very upfront that what she's saying are her opinions and ideas. She admits when she doesn't know something and doesn't claim everything she says is gospel
@@TheRealUsername You totally misunderstand her. She advocates rule based international trade and she is against war. Only went war is forced upon us such as Pearl Harbor, she said that we have no choice but to respond. She lectures repeatedly on war as a wealth destroyer and rule based trade is beneficial for participants.
@@TheRealUsername ......what???
@@LtColShingSides Well, despite writing a book on WW2 Japan she blamed the vietnam famine during Japanese occupation on communism. And the literacy rate for China is 99.8% when Japan is only 99%.
She says communism doesn't lead to prosperity when, you know, China. She claimed the atomic bombs saved lives. She teaches history to American generals. She throws out shit like 'Mao was a pedo' and doesn't say where this information comes from (spoiler: no evidence for this). She says a lot of shit with no source and calls herself a historian.
Sarah, is blessed with near endless patience.
So is Mr. Patel.
I love seeing her in stuff. Shes a proper, fair expert who knows her field. Shes so respectful as she makes and reiterates her points.
Yeah really well informed. Not often you get to listen to a female historian like this.
I had a college professor in the 1980s who had been OSS/CIA in the 1940s . He agreed with her that China was already lost at the end of WWII.
And Marxist disinformers in the State Dept didnt help.
Did you go back in time and ask the question or reference you notes from 50 years ago
Love when experienced, older educates younger/ aggressive/ fast talking without thought. Love this woman.
Expert meets amateur with a personal agenda.
@@PMMagro Yeah I feel this dude listens to her but isn't learning shit.
He comes across as a wannabe "gotcha!" Interviewer where each attempt fell flat on its face with an actual historian who's happy to both give facts and say "I don't know."
It's his job to ask questions that gets good answers, which is exactly what he does. Like, watch whatever else video he makes, he does this all the time. His questions isn't his opinion.
@PMMagro what's the agenda, so this guy could have a RUclips channel?! She is a professor 😂😂😂😂
I could listen to her talk from when the roosters crow until the cows come home. She is so eloquent, and just soooo knowledgeable. I'm totally enamored with Mrs Paine.
The thing she gets close to explicitly saying is that it is a fundamental flaw of American thinking (and therefore American foreign policy) that we think everyone wants the same thing we want. They don't. Somehow we think, "Oh, if we just go in there and set up Western style democracy, they'll just realize how wonderful it is, and our job will be done." That's not how it works, and it seems that nearly every 10 to 20 years the American people convince their politicians to attempt it again.
That's not the reason. If you don't spread your philosophy the other person will subsume you. Look at the hold socialism had on America. Now imagine if they never even tried to change ppls minds. You would've been enslaved a long time ago
Freedom isn't free
Babe- it’s the government convincing the people they need it. Did you learn nothing from Sarah?
It has worked before but in Western countries.
@@JordanbobbaI was going to say just about the same thing. Average Americans don’t have much to gain from these excursions.
Why have i only met this woman recently. She's freakin awesome.
She has a few presentations on the U S Naval War College RUclips.
There are thousands of people like her in our gov't institutions. They toil constantly, with great thought, seriously trying to make a better world (there's shitty people too ofc)
I’m really enjoying Sarah Paine, great speaker. I wish more people cared about history.
This woman is such a joy to watch and listen to. She inspires me to read and think more about the world as it is and how it came to be this way.
Sarah and Patel are a great example of the sublime and the ridiculous. She is brilliant and completely on top of the subject. Patel is profoundly ignorant but convinced his inane, propagandistic questions are worth asking again and again despite being politely and repeatedly demolished.
It's an interview... Push and pull is the whole point. He got her to justify her ideas pretty thoroughly, concede that she might be wrong anyway, and present alternative viewpoints that other academics have raised. How boring and short would this be if he just went "Wow what a brilliant response. Anyway, let's move on..."
@@coooseeeit is the arrogance he has about being right when he has such limited knowledge that people are reacting to. There are ways to ask questions that come from a place of curiosity instead of arrogance. On the other hand I so appreciate him interviewing her.
Ridiculous? He used her book as a reference for his counter argument.
I would recommend that Dwarkesh read the first few chapters of the Gravel version of the Pentagon papers. When speaking with Sarah here, he doesn't even hint at the US efforts to help France maintain it's empire holdings in Indo-China.
Ho Chi Minh wanted a democratic Vietnam modeled on the US Constitution. I would become communist too after getting snubbed like that.
@@pugilist102 if you’re an American sir, I worry you’re about to get your wish. From the outside, looking in as a foreigner, when Sarah says “If you have parties that want to exterminate each other, the idea of getting them to cooperate is impossible. So don’t try it!” all appearances are that what’s left of the republicans are hell bent on exterminating everyone but them, and very sadly, the democrats haven’t realized it yet, and are still trying to preserve democracy. The autocratic coup and decapitation from within of America as the world has known it for the last century seems very clear to any of us who have lived in other countries where it has happened. 8:40
SARAH PAINE featuring Dwarkesh Patel's occasional interjections.
If they skipped the part where Dwarkesh talks it would be such a great short video ❤❤❤
Please let her talk!
Yes more training is needed for asking questions.
Just hypothetical after hypothetical.
Patel drones on and on with the counterfactuals. No way, in 1945-46 could someone look ahead to North Korea, Vietnam, and Pol Pot / Cambodia and the Cultural Revolution and say "we have to absolutely be sure Chiang Kai Shek wins." Just not possible to look ahead like that (and awfully hard to help Chiang win when the KMT had little support in China's vast rural, and economically important areas. Patel reminds me some of my smarter undergraduate students, who know some facts but get carried away by "why are / were they so stupid compared to me, and couldn't see all this?"
And Chiang Kai-shek wasn't a particularly 'Good' person at the time anyway. The KMT were not benign force to start with. We like the way Taiwan is Governed now, but there's no guarantee that was going to be the resulting Government back in 1946.
On top of this, there were people in the Unites States who didn't like the Marshall Plan. We can look back at the Marshall Plan today and see what a huge success it was, but that doesn't mean it had universal support when it was created and put into effect. Now imagine trying to increase the Marshall Plan to include China, which is a pretty huge country.
Opposition can grow, not just against a single idea, but against the Administration that proposed it. Presidents and their advisors have to calculate what they can accomplish before political pushback not only makes an individual goal impossible to achieve, but also weakens their ability to do the rest of their job. Counterfactuals often ignore likely political complications as if they didn't matter at all, when they can be a key element to understanding why events played out in the manner that they did.
Sarah Paine is good at pointing out that "winning" often means horrific human suffering. It's easy to look at Mao and say, "well, things would have been better if Chiang Kai Shek was leader", forgetting the 43 years of White Terror under the KMT in Taiwan and the Shanghai massacre. I'd wager that post-Chinese-Civil-War societal rebuilding would have been very brutal regardless of who was in charge.
Plus, the mass of China meant that nobody has the power to dictate Chinese domestic policy from outside. There was no way a country of 140M could steer the outcome of a civil war in a country of 525M
If you also include his AI episodes, the pattern that emerges is that Patel is overly invested in intellect as a magic wand. But it doesn't work that way. Life is both political and experimental. Most people won't buy into your "better" ideas until they see the proof in the pudding. The pudding is experimental. Very often, the social experiment is risky, and you won't be given free reign to even try the experiment. And when you do have latitude to try the experiment, there are often so many extraneous constraints added on, that the person behind the social experiment, which typically fails as burdened, can reasonably say "but we didn't do this social experiment the _right way", and you have finally proved nothing at all, in either direction. Patel seems completely blind to how intellect alone can not break human politics out of this particular dysfunction loop. When I'm in a good mood, I find it in myself to enjoy Patel as a 12-year-old Socrates. When I'm not in a good mood, I find his Slipstick Libby juvenalia annoying.
The American west ignored Pol Pot until it was way too late.
My boy Kim getting strays here. 🤣
He is honestly one of the worst Allies to have.
@@amnesiacorner Russia dont seem to mind currently.. they get both weapons and soldiers.
@@wtfucrazy Russia /can't/ mind. It is desperate.
@ Russia is a special case.
They're in a middle of a war, and an ally like North Korea is nice to have.
China isnt.
They prefer stability, and a nuclear mad man is not good for regional stability.
@@graybonesau Kim jong un suggested it himself lmfao to send troops into ukraine. Russia's' economically failing. Not population wise.
I could listen to Sarah Paine and Stephen Kotkin talk history all day. Dwarkesh, not so much. If your guest has definitively refuted your take on a question (for example, on the Marshall plan and China) you need to move on to the next question and not continue badgering them with your erroneous ideas. You're the host, not the expert.
He is so grating. 🫠
I see what you're saying but in him doing so by offering a rebuttal to the counter argument, we get an even deeper breakdown of the situation.
Plus, I love Professor Paine's voice and how she provides a quick response.
Exactly
She must be used to dealing with knuckleheaded grad students.
@@donaldelfreth553
Now. THIS is witty.
One comment I would make, I lived in China for ten years, Chiang Kai-Shek is very honored in China. I visited one of his homes once and there were literally hundreds of people walking through the house and grounds. I asked my guide what the deal was and she told me he was venerated because he and Sun Yat-Sen had freed China from the Monarchy and serfdom. Yes, Mao had fought him but the people still liked him. During his final years Mao and especially his last wife were viewed as tyrants by the people. Our world is truly an interesting place !!
Sun Yat-Sen is very much honored and seen as the father of the country. Chiang Kai-Shek on the other hand is much more controversial on the mainland, even if you can visit his home in Nanjing.
I would qualify that pre-50's Mao was a different beast from post-great leap forwards Mao. One was still trying to legitimize his government with hundreds of millions of people and the other realized his position was secure and subsequently went off the rails
Shes an expert and a professional.
War is an abhorrent act that leads to senseless destruction, yet leaders continue to wage it for personal gain. To justify their actions and rally blind followers, they glorify war as righteous, masking its true horror. Such is the nature of humanity-violent and self-destructive.
That’s why I appreciate Professor Paine’s perspective. She doesn’t let anyone romanticize one side over the other. Instead, she cuts through the illusion, pointing out that in the end, everyone involved is both a fool and a victim.
Personal gain is a sense-based, rational view of mans life as a whole, not short-range pleasures. Emotions are the indirect product of free will choices, not a product of an inmpossible Original Sin.
Atlas Shrugged-Ayn Rand
It's about time someone speaks common sense.
Well said Sarah. You totally nailed.
“some of you will die. It’s a sacrifice I am willing to make” Lord Farquad
Mr. Patel and Ms. Paine bring out the best of each other in the conversation. Facinating and enjoyable. They'd make a great comedy team.
I double majored in History and Political Sciences. I always loved history and studied it independently as well. I really would have loved to have Sarah Paine as a history professor in college. She has a way of simplifying issues. Thanks for posting..
Here is an example that blew my mind, the word ""POLICE"" is a modern concept introduced by Japan 警察 (Keisatsu) to China 警察 (Jing Cha) same writing.
"Don't try it" (c) Obi-Wan Kenobi and Sarah Paine
Facts!!! Trump will never listen to anyone like this woman.
@@tygressblade as evidenced by...? Are you speaking from experience being a fellow multibillionaire leader in capitalist America? Or are you a pathetic youtube commenter who thinks they know Trump better than everyone else on the planet?
Well done. Thank you for a great interview.
So I read The Best and the Brightest right out of high school(1976), and that's how I first learned about John Paton Davies and the old China Hands. An early 1977 issue of Foreign Affairs was the first of that journal I ever read, and lo and behold one of its articles was by Davies. I still have it somewhere. Talk about an article being cogent, no nonsense, wise, and highly readable. My word. No better model of prose and logic, IMO.
Saah Paine for President
How it's possible I discovered her so late
I love listening to her and I am going to buy her book too .
Great hearing her talk. It is a shame Dwark kept interrupting and talking over her while repeating the same points and not adding anything to the interview.
Finally a nuanced and accurate account of geopolitics with no ideological bias.
Ideology is a need of the mind. The alternative is mental disintegration, eg, Trumps Pragmatism, Leftist nihilism,modern art, the Democratic Party, The Republican Party...
This lady is brilliant.
You know one thing is always hear and see if fear the numbers they've got so much more they can overwhelm. but time and time again it seems the lesser more powerful side prevails more than not. So much so im convinced it will always go that way especially when it comes to American warring powers.
Why oh WHY does Sarah allow this idiot Patel interview and present her? In sooo many of these "interviews' he sounds so incredibly immature and uninformed! Seriously,....it dilutes her effectiveness. She is an obvious and serious scholar with a truly objective pint of view. This guy always sounds like the junior varsity VP of the high school John Birch Society of the late 1960's and 70's with stupid and naive questions!
BUT WHAT IF HITLER HAD WON???? 😂
I like the counter arguments because it gives her more items to talk about
I love her! ❤
Why does it feel like Trump is doing everything opposite of what Sarah said in this video?
because that is how willfully igorant you are
He is a Russian stooge
Sadly, because he is. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we had an intelligent, thoughtful president. A president who surrounds himself with an administration composed of qualified personnel who are experts in their fields! Just imagine 😳
I love her. She's great.
Sarah is exceptional well educated with real common sense. Great insight.
she is so fascinating ❤
What is this about Dwarkesh's questions? There is no such thing as a stupid question. He asked why Truman stopped aid to Chiang while Stalin sent aid to Mao. She replied that the US did not want to send troop to fight in China. That is not what he asked, so he asked a very valid question again. In her lecture on why Mao won, she mentioned Mao needed a big sponsor in order to win. Mao got his sponsor in Stalin while Chiang was abandoned by his sponsor, the US. The bottom line is the US gave up on Chiang, the result is we have to deal with a rather unpleasant China today.
My respectful counterpoint: Tuchman's "Stillwell and the American Experience in China."
His "questions" are more like statements he wants her to confirm. When she does not he comes back to them over and over fishing for the answer he looks for but the expert does not agree with. USA could have helped Kuomintnag in the 1920s already or in the 1930s but 1945 The communists in China was way stronger than before and had their backing solved.
China is a vast continental territory that at that time had incredibly limited infrastructure compared to the Islands of Japan. You cannot compare the two.
What has China done that is so unpleasant to you? Do you not know how unpleasant the US has been since ww2? Korean war, Gulf War, Iraqi invasion, Afghanistan, fueling Israel with weapons, deposing the Sha of Iran, the Vietnam war and numerous bombings of civilian targets in places like Syria and Cambodia. And what has China done, again?
There were American troops in China unloading military supplies for the Nationalists with great shame. Chiang's troops ruthlessly taxed starving peasants who represented the vast majority of the population. These troops saw for themselves the corruption and cruelty of the Nationalists. They didn't see public support for Chiang.
brilliant!!!
The video is 9 minutes long and you posted 1 minute after it posted.
I am skeptical that you even watched... even using 2x speed.
@@ThatGuyz82This is a clip of a video released on January 30th…it’s still brilliant for people who saw it
This dwarkesh fella speaks english so fast im curious as to where hes from that they speak the language at such a brisk cadence. Im from new york and i cant keep up with this guy.
Presentations are very well done.
He reads for a week before the interview and tries to argue on the level of someone who has spent a lifetime studying. Wow.
We are not going to have those alliances soon with the way we are treating our allies now.
They are junior allies
I don't know if anyone can say for sure that the KMT could or couldn't have beaten the Communists, but I think one important point to consider is that it's not at all clear _at that time_ that it would be a good thing for Chiang to have won. As mentioned in the video, Chiang was a brutal dictator, and he would continue being one when he escaped Taiwan.
I love her combination of talking mad S@#$ and deep geopolitical analysis.
Could you please request an audience with King Donald, Sarah? Explain to him the importance of Allies, the UN, NATO?
Sarah Paine would probably tell you that autocrats don't act in the interest of their nation, they act in their personal interest. If Mattis couldn't get the importance of allies through to donny, no way will he listen to anyone else.
Though for now, Rubio and Hegseth are both making the right mouth noises with respect to allies. I'm watching Gabbard though.
Well said.🎉@@TheStrangeBloke
Biden approached the very worst people in the world with transparency, honesty, and compassion. He was an arrogant idiot.
DT AT LEAST knows that diplomacy is transactional, but you idiots think American ideals are the greatest defense against the depredations of the world’s worst leaders. You put young American lives at risk for your arrogance. Bad people could not give a sh@t for your ideals and moral absolutes.
World's worst leaders? Including Canada and Greenland?
The unipolar era and the hegemony of the US had started declining after the 9/11 attack and a disastrous response to it. 2008 financial crisis abruptly ended it. But the transition to a multipolar world will be chaotic and messy. The current state of the globe is symbolic of it.
Thank you 🙏🙏🌷
We need to get the IDW back together and invite this woman to the discussion.
Sarah is a gem!
So what if we do the exact opposite of all that then you get America currently
Please know that the Marshall plan was a loan. Germany repaid that loan before due and created a Marshall germany plan ( located in washington dc) to help America. It was a way to show gratitude to Americans. Google.
West Germany was a junior ally. The plan really benefited America by providing American products to Germany, boosting political influence
I want the NATO and UN to be challenged and actually innovate. I don’t ever wanna underestimate our enemies but I wanna do the same for our friends. We need to expect better from our friends and especially ourselves. At the same time I’m very aware of the issues and many mistakes both organizations and the US itself has done
The narrator is pontificating nonsense. Please stop trying to force speculating "what if" or "what about" and spend time listening. The interviewer is speculating the past. Dr Paine is analyzing the past. Sorry but it's difficult to follow.
Sarah throwing shade at Kim is hilarious and true! 😂 @1:00
would love to hear her take on the single tax movement and henry george's views on land monopoly being the underlying cause of all the economic injustice in the world.
She's a historian, not an economist
@@joshuaknallay282 right, so i can't ask a historian an opinion on a significant political movement? especially when lloyd george was pushing for the "people's budget" immediately before the onset of world war 1? could the political environment of a main actor of a world war possibly be of interest to a historian?
Allies. Let me get back to you on that one.
Junior allies
You have to let her finish my man, please just ask the questions and wait for the answer lol
In 1968 I got my draft notice to report. Nobody at the government seemed particularly concerned about my welfare.
The Nationalists were prevailed upon by the Americans to stop their advances because it could have brought the Soviets into the fighting directly.
After the war in Europe had ended, the last thing the western allies wanted was to give the Soviets a reason to become hostile. The allies were in no position to oppose them in the east and the situation was hardly any better in Europe.
When she says it wasn't feasible she is right, but she omitted that very important point there.
Well this is a timely video, looks like the US is desperate to re-learn this lesson........
If anyone is interested, please read Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-45 by Barbara W. Tuchman and you will understand why it's impossible to save China prior and post 1945.
Bravo 👏
How I’m feeling about Trump threatening all our allies and now wanting to colonize Gaza
I'm proud to be an American........
Dwarkesh, slow the hell down when you talk.
So annoying, right?
skill issue, I watched this at 2x
Indians almost always talk way too fast. It is because their own language is inefficient and linguists have proven that every language tries to give the same information in the same time. Which means that Indians talk fast. Unfortunately also in other languages.
Mr Patel should read “The Coldest Winter” …
The question for Patel is what did he expect would have been saved in China and who was going to pay for it. I believe General Stilwell reported it would take 10 million men over 10 years.
Why cant we have people like this making policy
Imagine Sarah Paine working with Fiona Hill.
@Brynmawrhill--
Yes. I can imagine Fiona Hill and Dr Paine interacting. Hill is by many metrics right-wing, yet balanced and analytical. She has genuine political credentials and has been a spearhead for women's achievements. Did I mention that she is right-wing politically? Dr Paine is multilingual, measured, and mature in her utterances. Her political stance is unknown to me. Both warn about the march into fascism in the USA.
Their conversations would be fascinating, as long as there is a third person in the mix, one neither British nor American, to add even more cosmopolitan experience, flavour, and insight.
" if you have party's that want to exterminate each other the chances of getting them to corporate is impossible" - this is Hamas's mindset, therefore the peace wont last.
And professor Paine if I might ask you a question?
What would you say was the greatest error made in the 20th century by any country?
The disastrous inflitration campaigns by Eisenhower. One in cuba and the other one in Sumatra. When Americans failed to whack sukarno led indonesia, they bullied Netherlands into giving up west guinea/papua. Sukarno is the Indonesia version of donald john trump
Notice the difference in the quality of develiry of this youtuber/Podcaster. US is slowly waking up to the excellence Indian Americans bring to education and educated dialogue. I have to point this out since many lazy armchair politicking Americans think of Indians as cheap labor. 😅
I'm from central NJ. Edison is basically the Indian capital of America. All my Indian friends are doctors, scientists, engineers...
Even the ones who weren't as naturally gifted did far better than average because they took education seriously.
And when they didnt you could hear their mom shouting from the next block over, lol.
The Sikhs in particular are insanely high achieving, and usually serving the public in the toughest jobs like ER docs.
We're blessed to have Indians here in America. They embody everything this country is supposed to be about.
The goat
It's been a long time since I heard someone in politics talk about some common sense.
It is like the interviewer does not want to understand
I think that corporate errands like the Gulf war are an excellent example of that! For for any extended period of time you do need boots on the ground! The whole Gulf war was done on the behest of the Saudi royal family! The area was not was not stabilized and a lot of US funds we're squandered
!! There were some allies in Vietnam the South Koreans the Philippines and Australians but unlike the Korean conflict you did not have the numerous allies ! Well it can be undoubtedly questioned the need for the atomic bomb in Hiroshima since the Soviets were acting like a steamroller in Asia!
This clip did not age well
That would be really great, except how many of those allies are going to be standing behind him if he sends his troops into Gaza, I’d like to know?
It’s funny to say “who does theocracies anymore” to undermine china’s aliance with Iran, but may I remind that another theocracy is Saudi Arabia, and they’re a US ally 🤝🏻🤣
Saudi Arabia is not a theocracy, except insofar as the House of Saud likes having someone to blame their excesses on.
Saudi Arabia isn't a theocracy, because they're not covered by a priest. Priest. The king of Saudi Arabia doesn't exercise power over the Islamic religion in the same way the Ayatollah as any wrong
The USA is downhill into becoming an Americhristian/Jewish theocracy. (Republican) Supreme Court Justices spearhead the movement.
@@zacharyhenderson2902 I’ll let you Google whether Saudi Arabia is a theocracy - and you’ll find that it is. Given that a theocracy is any system of government that has its legal, social, and political institutions, determined by absolutist religious beliefs. The constitution is based on Islamic law, the courts are based on sharia law, the monarchical rule is legitimised by religious authority,there is control over social institutions through religious policy, and there is very limited religious freedom - ergo, a theocracy.
@echokilo1442 The UK is more of a theocracy than Saudi Arabia is. By your logic Jordan would be a theocracy,
Look at what happened to Rome - Conquering Greece bringing in slaves -> plebian yeoman became urban proletariat -> Marius funded UBI with war -> Caesar crossed the Rubicon -> Nerva dynasty fell and senate lose power -> Rome became a playground for Emesenes and Illyrians -> Foederati like Germans and Arabs proved to be more powerful and then Rome fell
dwarkesh yapping some nonesense while Sarah being nice as possible
Ohio Class Submarines help to dissuade any tomfoolery.
Your tariffs wont work.
She is not putting out any tariffs😂😂😂😂 if you're talking about Donnie dumpster we don't want him to do it either but he is dumber than a rock
They literally already have. If you don’t examine anything outside your own biases, why have any confidence that you know what you’re talking about?
@@humantwist-offcap9514 LOL
No one reads in China? Huh? Google "china literacy rate" then "US literacy rate..." wtf is this lady on
She was talking bout then
1. In 1950, the Chinese literacy rate was about 20%, with 95% of the peasants being illierate. By 1900, even the poor Japanese were literate.
2. In 1977, I was in Afghanistan. There were no democratic institutions. There were at least 5 different cultures. Everyone knew his or her place. My late wife carried 3 knives and I carried 5!
Iran supported the shiite group, the northern alliance. Pakistan supported the sunnis, Taliban. Even when the 09/1l/2001 action started a few weeks after the incidents, it was known that the Arabs had made a deal. It would assassinate an effective Northern Alliance leader if the Taliban would give them traditional hospitality/protection.
The US intervened on behalf of the Shiites. Eventually the fighting came down to one town. A deal was made. The Taliban would stack arms and be allowed to leave. The Pakistani volunteers were taken out by the Pakistani military flying C47s. Some 2000 Arabs were surrendered. They were taken out to the desert in 18 wheelers with cargo units and left to die of thirst - just like the Northern Alliance had done the previous year to Taliban prisoners. And somebody thinks that Afghanistan can be transformed into a democracy?
Patel ruins this. He doesn't listen and respect or respect what Sarah is saying
The kim jong un strays lmfaoooo
She's very mainstream in her contemporary thought I'm afraid
Isn't her name Sally though?
It's one of her names that is a nickname.
Make this lady president.
General Cash My Check
lmao the audacity of this host to think he's an expert on foreign policy because he read a wikipedia page
i disagree about what she said about china, it is more or less about comunisium not china