From the Line of Fire team: For those who may have misunderstood Dr. Brown's comments, he does not believe Todd White uses parlor tricks and deception, otherwise he would call it out. When he said he could care less about leg growing, what he meant was that the phenomenon or claims of it are meaningless to him. His issue is whether people were genuinely healed by the Lord.
I Personally knew Evangelists that God used gold filling teeth. My mother had a tooth gold filled by another evangelist. My wife had stage four cancer. She went to the altar; not for healing. The guest speaker was used in word of knowledge, pointed to the affected area and said “that cancer leaves now”, she was healed.
I think that’s the issue that many people have with Dr. Brown’s stance on Todd White and other Charismatics. It has been demonstrably shown (certainly in Todd White’s case) that he is engaging in willful deception. And if you consider that along with some of his aberrant teachings, and troubling associations, it’s not hard to see why people would want to mark and avoid him and NOT defend him just because he SEEMS like a sincere guy. Also it should be noted that in Scripture we are warned of people bringing false signs and wonders. So yeah…real healings may take place, or real-looking healings may take place…but what is that person teaching and demonstrating? We need to be careful and in this case, as with others, I think Dr Brown could use a bit more discernment and wisdom. I know we would disagree on that account. Please know I’m not attacking Dr. Brown here, I do still find value in some of Dr. Browns other teachings, but on this issue of Todd White specifically and discernment more broadly, I think he has a huge blind spot.
I do not like how you handled the people that are criticizing you, by saying....oh...I feel so bad for you. It is patronizing and wrong. Also I do not like that you said Chrstns can't be Spiritual Jws, that is wrong because We are supposed to provoke the Jws to jealousy, not the other way around. I abbreviated to deal with YTube cnsrshp, no disrespect. God Bless you, I do love you and I think you are doing good work.
Anyone who supports, associates, and partners with Kenneth Copeland in ministry should be marked and avoided, and that is exactly what Todd White does. Kenneth Copeland is his mentor and spiritual father.
Dr. Brown, Has it ever occurred to you that being a preacher and teacher of the gospel is so important and so serious that people who are inexperienced and new to the Bible and prayer should be held back from leadership until they have educated themselves in the Word and practiced it for many, many years and proved themselves patient and actually listening to God? My point is this: When I get on a plane I want that pilot to follow all the safety rules, a check list, I want him to have a good record; I want experience when I have a surgery, and I want someone well practiced, perfectly practiced. Having someone teach and preach the gospel is as important as having an excellent pilot and a well practiced excellent physician. Todd White is someone with zeal, but do I want him to teach my children? NO! I don’t care how many hours one spends in prayer or Bible study, if your zeal drives you to have to be on top like Todd White you should not be in the ministry. Why can’t you see that? And as far as Todd having a right heart toward God. You don’t know his heart. I don’t know his heart. But I do know people like Todd, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and so on make me uncomfortable. And your inability to see through the man Mike Bickle of IHOPKC is case in point. There were red flags. Pay attention! And furthermore, a person’s soul is more important to God than anything we do on earth supposedly in His name. Todd is a showman and can’t help himself, he should not be an example of a good teacher or preacher. Let him humble himself for a few years. Even Paul, who was educated above and beyond any of you in the scripture took his time to really understand what God wanted him to do before beginning the ministry God gave him. Thank you for reading this, if you actually do. I hope you do read it.
I think the waters are muddy...because it can be a "false parlor trick" and it can also be a healing. So it's really a case by case. And even if some are faking things sometimes, does not mean some are not sometimes getting healed either. It makes it so difficult to be far away and call the shots on all of it. I've seen many prayed for and no immediate healings (of all different kinds) and I have seen many immediate healings (of all different kinds). I am not better than anyone else at determining when and why God will heal or why he won't in the moment or why he sometimes does the healing later that night or the next day. It's up to him (God) to heal or not. It's up to us to pray and ask him to heal. There is no burden or pressure on any of use to heal, because we cannot. The same name that is cursed over and over, that very same name spoken over an illness or injury can bring healing. Incredible. There's no formula or special prayer..there is just the power and person of God...and he has a will of his own.
Dr. Brown, I had a problem with my hip for over a year. It was painful and could not find relief. A visiting pastor at my church asked if anyone had a hip problem, my daughter pointed me out to him. I wasn’t sold on this healing ministry and words of knowledge. When he did the leg lengthening “trick”, I was embarrassed and extremely skeptical. I was not a faithful believer in this and felt as if it was all a show. The Lord healed me anyway. That has been four years ago and have never experienced hip issues since. I was a reluctant recipient of God’s grace. If God can help someone who exhibited no faith or expectancy what can He do for someone a little faith? I have been a charismatic believer for over 50 years but I thought some of these healers were fake and sensationalist.
I was once very skeptical of the whole leg growing thing. Then one morning after I had finished preaching, I asked if anyone needed prayer for anything. A couple said that their daughter had been suffering and had one leg shorter than the other. She came up front and sat in a chair. Indeed, one leg was an inch or so shorter. I said (inside myself) " OK Lord, I'm going to pray for this". I held both feet up and prayed. The leg grew out right before my eyes! I have since come to understand that many times it is simply a rotated hip. Funny thing is, God knows what the issue is and how to fix it, no matter how we address the issue in our prayer of faith.
Why not show Todd the videos exposing his schemes and allow him to irrefutably rebuke them? Why not ask why he preaches Jesus was child porn on the cross? Was it also Todd who said he has reached sinless perfection? ( the last one i think was him, but cant remember for sure). I have some of Dr. Browns books and think he writes well on some topics, but his discernment is almost nonexistent. With limited funding and space for a personal library, i cant say he is someone i would continue to collect books from. Todd's caricature of cessationism, also, is completely false. Of course we believe miracles still occur and the Spirit is active, please research before you misrepresent another view.
From the Line of Fire team: We encourage you to look more carefully at some of the statements attributed to Todd White, since he is often quoted inaccurately.
God healed my back at the Brownsville Revival while John Bevere was on the platform. He wasn't even praying for people. My first service was a Wednesday night Brownsville School Of Ministry service with Dr. Michael Brown. A rushing wind blew through the church that night. People were yelling Jesus, Jesus. It was absolutely mind blowing!!!
When are people going to understand it’s not about man but God receiving His glory, The Father doesn’t bring glory to man but His Son Jesus. Beautiful Testimony. 🙏🏼
Dr. Brown, why hasn't Todd White gone to St Jude Children's Hospital and do his miraculous healings there? I believe people would be convinced then that he has truly healed others.
I'm not endorsing Todd White but with all due respect it would depend on God. I had a relative that was a believer that was sick for almost 2 decades but one time they were in fellowship when they were prayed for and miraculously healed by God. Could God have healed them in the first year of their sickness instead of almost 2 decades later? Of course but only God knows all things. Perhaps certain people's faith became stronger because of it or someone actually came to true faith in Jesus because of it or both. Even someone else in their job was telling others about the miracle that the Lord had done. God knows and He is the one that determines things not us and we are to try to align to His will. He is the one that searches our hearts. Praise God.
That’s quit silly Jesus healed all those that believed…you can’t walk into a hospital with people full of doubt. Mark 6:4-13 King James Version (KJV) But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief.
@@newworldgrover8588There's a lot of Scripture, including that very important one you referenced, that clue in why not all people are healed. James 1 about asking in faith with no doubting, otherwise you won't receive anything is a repeat of what Jesus said in Matthew about the mountain. You must speak to the mountain in faith AND have no doubt on your heart, and it will be moved. That's why it's harder to see miracles on the United States than desperate places like in South America and Africa. They don't have an unbelief problem.
Brother, you can try to cover for why you platform Todd white all you want… but he is still a false teacher. A man that says “God is not in control, the Bible doesn’t teach that” is someone you support? A man who has been proven to trick and lie to people is someone you platform? I’m sure he’s a loving and nice man and seems as such. But you have to be a pastor and a leader and a “discerner” as you claim and call it what it is. The Bible doesn’t call us to do everything as pastor but it does tell us to call out false teaching… not promote it. Love you brother, but this one isn’t wise
God doesn’t control everything that happens is what he means. The scripture doesn’t support extreme sovereignty teaching. Todd hasn’t been proven to trick anyone. Just skepticism and accusations 😂
@@austindeborn1111there is video evidence of him over and over and over talking out of both sides of his mouth deceptively. And there has been video evidence showing him using the leg lengthening in a deceptive manner. And how about him saying “God became sex trafficking on a tree”? There’s a difference in being imperfect versus unqualified to teach. He is the latter.
@@Reader234 Did you see the roundtable w/ Michael Brown and Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett on the American Gospel u tube channel? Michael Brown was so condescending. I was embarrassed for him.
@@eeg0415i did. It was horrible and yes i agree he was beyond condescending. The one with Peter’s and Osman was worse imo. He seriously thinks people believe him that he has never seen Sid Roth’s show? So he went on a show he has never watched to host for his friend… not knowing how any of it works? That makes no sense at all. Also love how he says “i didn’t come to debate” then debates them and tries to “win”
No need to explain as far as I am concerned. That interview was a powerhouse. I'd never heard Todd White speak and was blown away by his testimony and evident love for Jesus. If every person professing to be a Christian had even one tenth of the zeal for Jesus that Todd White has, this world would look quite different. Love you brother!
BTW… it’s pretty easy to put an end to the leg growing controversy. Dr. Brown, ask Todd to keep his hands off of the leg he’s “growing” and see if it grows on its own from prayer alone. Pretty easy way to end the debate in my opinion..
You would have to ask him. From my experiences...some have "gifts of healing" where they see a larger amount of people healed than most others that pray for healing...sometimes they see a lot of healing only in a specific area or ailment....if that is the case, they may then keep praying for the area(s) they have seen things happen....But of course, it could also be trying to show healings when they don't see healings and maybe it's easier to publicly demonstrate... Or perhaps some other reason. For all of us, we are accountable for what we do, what we don't do. God will judge. If they are serving God, they will have rewards from God..if they are serving themselves, the glory they get on Earth will be all they get from it.
"Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother, and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?" James 4:11-12
@LFTV Dr. Brown, as a fellow messianic Jew, and a fellow Charismatic Christian, I learn so much from you on how to handle that endless criticism and division in the Church of Jesus Christ! I pray our Father to bless your ministry and give you strength, patience and wisdom. In Jesus name! 🙏
I can understand people can think its fake, but last night I saw it happen over 10 times. You could see it in their faces who received prayer that their leg got an extension. I use to be skeptical, but its clear to me now that although some may fake it, this is indeed real.
I really needed to hear Todd's testimony today. I was in a mall passively waiting for God to make something happen so I could share Jesus and nothing happened. I see clearly that God wants us to take the initiative as the Spirit leads.
I love Dr. Michael Brown and The Line of Fire, I try to listen every chance I get and it has taught me so much! BUT this is just ridiculous Dr. Brown! How can you say for example that you don’t care whether someone uses deliberate deception and fools people into thinking their leg grew?! It only matters to you whether the person was then subsequently healed? God can use anything to heal someone but that doesn’t excuse the sin of the person God may have used. For example Judas went out with the disciples and performed miracles, but he is not excused for his own betrayal. And then you say stuff like I had a friend that testified that Todd White is always preaching the Gospel and practices what he preaches. That’s not the issue! Again, I’m sure if you asked the other disciples about Judas before his betrayal they would say the same sorts of things “Yeah he’s great, he’s been with us for 3 years travelling, he’s healed with us, cast out demons with us, spreads Jesus message always”. But just because outward appearances are all good doesn’t make the inside clean. Same with Heidi Baker, you say I know she has a charity in Mozambique. Ok, what does that have to do with anything? There are muslim charities, atheist charities, very nice kind loving generous people all over the world, but that has nothing to do with doctrinal issues! The issue with the interview with Todd White was not the title of the video! It was the fact that you even just said your intention was to question him about the specific accusations that the leg lengthening being intentionally deceptive, but you did not do that. And you have failed to address it again in this video!
From the Line of Fire team: You appear to have misunderstood Dr. Brown's comments, he does not believe Todd White uses parlor tricks and deception, otherwise he would call it out. When he said he could care less about leg growing, what he meant was that the phenomenon or claims of it are meaningless to him. His issue is whether people were genuinely healed by the Lord. As for Heidi Baker, who has a Ph.D. in Systematic Theology, she preaches Jesus and lives by the Word and leads many people to Jesus. Dr. Brown encourages those who challenge the validity of her ministry to see it first hand in Mozambique.
@@LFTVfyi, academic titles do not prove anything about the state of a soul or the accuracy of theology. Even your ministry would affirm that, so don't be hypocritical
Michael, I was baptized in the Holy Spirit at Beth Messiah as a 13 or 14 years old by Sid Roth privately in the hallway. My life has never been the same, I have seen with my own eyes so many miracles my whole life the leg thing seems like no big deal. Anyway Sid as u already know is the real deal along with yourself. Thank you for all you do. Proud to be a Torch Bearer
A pastor said to me that unless I speak in tongues I'm not full of the Holy Spirit. That said I'm 67 and now suddenly reading scriptures and understanding them more than ever before. My eyes were opened up just this year and now I speak Boldly the words of God. I asked a pastor a question at a men's breakfast and he refused to answer it. However, all other questions he answered from everyone else. I got in his face and asked him what he was afraid of and why is he afraid of the Words of God. He got a bit flushed in the face and gave me a silly excuse.
I am embarrassed by the way the Charismatic movement has degenerated. When I first encountered it I was thrilled and encouraged that God was still active in tangible ways with his followers. But look at the extremes to which it has fallen! Sid Roth who made a good start has descended into some crazy teachings. Look how this legitimate movement, at first, has given way to the frightful Prosperity gospel. It is tempting to become a Cessationist!
I thank God,for you,Dr Brown. I love your teaching. And I feel sad I can't afford to bless you but I do pray for God's wisdom and protection over your life and family. We need to pray for one another. I thank Jesus for giving me the strength and heart to pray for genuine ministers for God. I need prayers too for our ministry too. To me,God's healings are real ,and God can send angels to be an urgent technician too. Today I do share my testimony how God appeared and have touched me,and healed me too. Many miracles,it's nothing to make up stories about Jesus,but it's really true. I've seen Sid Rod's, supernatural are true. I will agree and God do visit. I've experienced. I thank God for his shows too. God is presence in your show,I don't understand why people complained of faith ministers. We are answerable for every speech n deeds we do,to God. We need to fear and reverand God in all our ways. I pray for believers to have an encounter with Jesus for time is short. And I believe,if they experience God they will stop criticizing those whom God using them to do His supernatural. I'm blessed with your teaching,I'm truly thankful God ,God bless you,Dr. Priscilla Ong from Malaysia. Shaom
I'm tired of Pentecostals pulling people's legs. I mean that both as a figure of speech, and unfortunately.. literally. There is a serious lack of discernment in our camp right now. Its hard to hold onto Pentecostal distinctives when I'm seeing so much none-sense. Still love y'all dearly.
@@garfunkle37 For Jesus to “become” sin, even for a moment, would mean He ceased to be God. God made him . . . to be sin for us” means that Jesus, although sinless, was treated as if He were not. Although He remained holy, He was regarded as guilty of all the sin in the world. Through imputation of our sin to Him, He became our substitute and the recipient of God’s judgment against sin. Having saved those who believe, He is now “our righteousness, holiness and redemption” (1 Corinthians 1:30)
@@stevedrummin nice exegesis but I got a question: When's the last time you prayed for someone random on the street like Todd does every day? And what's your heart's intention in trying to slander Todd as a heretic or false teacher (which I assume you are doing from your initial comment)? Are you dealing with the log in your own eye? Are you criticising out of love or out of self-righteousness?
@@garfunkle37slander is when something is not true. Todd white is a false prophet and false teacher, this has been proven over and over and over. What’s ironic is you don’t seem to have a problem being slanderous as you claim toward this brother, yet accuse him of such? So it’s okay to be slanderous when it benefits you?
@@garfunkle37you’re also trying to deflect in an accusatory way of Todd whites bad theology. Jesus did not become sex trafficking on a tree as the brother corrected. Todd white also said that “Jesus is in bed watching pornography with you” that’s a very disgusting heresy. Do you have a problem with him saying that? You’re assuming nobody prays for Todd White just because we call out his false teaching? The Bible commands us to call out false teaching. Dr. Brown seems to think it’s not a big deal but pastors are held to call out and protect their sheep. Not protect false teachers
I love you brother Michael, however there is somthing not right about you putting statutes of limitations on heresy, which is sin. IF there is any heresy that Todd White has comitted in his ministry, and IF he has not repented publicly then that wrong doing, it is still outstanding and we are commanded not to fellowship with such an one until they are restored through repentance. Also since Todd holds the office of a pastor he is held to a much higher standard, so if he has sinned greviously (which I am not accusing him of), then he would potentially be disqualified from ministry and not to be given a platform or recognised as a church leader. This comment is written in love to help you see how we must discern who to associate with, who to tacitly endorse, or fully endorse. God bless, & keep fighting the good fight
From the Line of Fire team: Of course, if a heresy was preached 10 years ago and never repented of, it must be called out. Dr. Brown's point was that Todd has corrected some of his earlier theology, so he wanted to be sure if there was an error, it remained so before addressing it. Thanks for your concerns!
Why is it we are more comfortable with words than with the overt power of the Holy Spirit in practice? Jesus seemed to walk in constant overt miracles, and said those who followed would do even greater works. About 5 years ago a stranger came up to me unannounced, identified a physical problem I had rarely shared with anyone, prayed a simple prayer in Jesus name, and I was instantly and permanently healed of that. I don't know who he was, never saw him again, although he had a toddler on his hip so I suppose he was a family man close 30 yrs old.
I saw someone doing leg growing twenty years ago and it was obviously false then. He may have believed what he was doing, it doesn't matter, we need to be more discerning. What he would have people do is sit in a chair and he would pull on their legs and one would lengthen. But it was obvious that all that was happening is that the persons pelvis would rotate so that one leg would go forward and the other back. None of them were ever actually healed.
Todd White's "little gods" teaching seems wrong to me. I used to really like him, but the more I understand the Bible the further I've gotten away from him and the Bethel crowd who teaches the same thing.
@@LFTV He doesn't outright say "little gods" like Paula White or Kenneth Copeland have BUT he teaches what amounts to the same idea, for instance that it is possible to live without sin on the level Jesus did and that we can heal every single sick person like Jesus did. He takes it to such an extreme as if there was no difference between us (believers) and Jesus. Surely any human would have a moment of pride, accidentally not give someone the correct change, not be perfectly accurate in their words even a fleeting sinful thought - we can't be perfect to the level Jesus is because He is God. And as someone who believes in praying for the sick and that God still heals - surely there are moments God isn't going to heal someone for His purposes. It seems Todd is quite unyielding in his teaching on this - if Jesus healed every person who crossed His path so should we. However it's been thousands of years, and have we ever heard of any human being able to do that? It's still only been and ever has been Jesus who has done that so completely, so perfectly.
I understand what Dr. Michael Brown is going through. He believes in God's power, he has grace for the charismatic, he wants God's gifts... but he can read.😂 Man, we can READ so we KNOW a lot of this stuff is BADLY misunderstood. Lord help us.
Dr. Brown I love your youtube channel and I highly respect you and I love that you teach that scripture should interpret scripture, however I must agree with the crowd, you should stay away from Todd White.
I feel so bad for us as believers, Jesus follows, people that are just hateful & mean …. Where is The Fruit of the Spirit? And if you don’t have the Spirit are we his ?
Lord GOD HOLY SPIRIT PLZ help us all plz help us my spirit hurts over this can YOU GOD talk speak to your children, let us know this ain’t right, teach us to LOVE one another even if we don’t agree on lesser things
@LFTV Firstly, I have been edified by your ministry for many years! My love for Jesus, for people and for the Scriptures have grown and my hatred for sin has grown as a result of your ministry. As a matter of fact, I ordered your new book "Hearts of Compassion, Backbones of Steel" and it arrived in the mail today!! Secondly, for the leg-growing controversy, I know it's impossible to cater to all critics, but in order to give thought to do what's honorable in the sight of all (Rom. 12:17) and pursue what makes for peace and mutual upbuilding (Romans 14:19), I'm wondering if an easy fix would be to recommend Todd White pray for the leg-healing by simply placing a hand on the shoulder rather than holding both feet. This way, White can continue praying for people's legs to grow out, the miracle can still occur, and the whole appearance of evil (parlor-trick foot-pulling) can be avoided. I heard Joshua Lewis from the Remnant Radio suggest this as a possible solution a while ago (I'm sorry, I can't remember which video I heard him say this). I understand that even Jesus seemed to require unique ways of doing miracles sometimes like rubbing mud on a guy's eyes, but this foot-holding doesn't seem like a unique, one-time, spirit-led type of miracle. The foot-holding just seems to be a default position that can easily be swapped with a position that doesn't have the appearance of parlor-trickery. I think we would make a similar suggestion to a person who looks like they are pushing people down during ministry time to make it look like people are getting slain in the spirit. The way we would probably recommend a person slay someone in the spirit is by, if anything, barely touching the person and, obviously, allowing God to do the heavy-lifting of overpowering someone if He wants to. It seems like that same principle of demonstrating that God is doing the heavy-lifting could be applied to the Todd White leg growing controversy. Also, I know one of White's points in your interview was that, regardless of what it looks like, the end result is that people involved received an actual healing. If Todd White could just do a little extra work and collect the medical documents from those actual healings and ask for permission to share some of those documents, that might make some of the critics be quiet. It seems like they respond more to hard evidence and less to hearsay.
Todd White literally said he hasnt sinned in the 20 years since hes been saved. What more do you need to hear about him? The embodiment of a false teacher
Did he say he never sinned or that he just didn’t sin intentionally/ deliberately? Or that he didn’t lust after a woman? I thought I saw a video about that and that was the context.
@@fineartbymattphilleo Yes, it was the one where he said he hasn't lusted after a woman in 2 decades. If a man hasn't lusted after a woman for 2 decades, then he also hasn't committed any other sins. The context was that he was so radically changed by the holy spirit that he became a sinless man.
From the Line of Fire team: We encourage you not to bear false witness on our platform. Thanks! Yes, Todd claims that God supernaturally delivered him from sexual temptation, as He has delivered others from other temptations. He does NOT claim to be sinless and has apologized publicly and privately for sinning in other ways. (We won't respond further here, but unless you can back your claims with documented evidence from unedited videos, we remind you that bearing false witness is a sin itself.)
@@LFTVI hope that I didn’t speak anything against Todd. That certainly wasn’t my intent. Rather, the opposite. I hold him in high regard for what appears to me as a great passion for Jesus and helping people through healing. I was trying to give context as a reply to the person who wrote about him on the top. Perhaps my memory doesn’t serve me correctly. If I did anything wrong please forgive me and may the Lord forgive me as well! Let the Lord be the ultimate judge of His people-and have mercy on all of us through Jesus Christ!
@@ijclnl48men can get victory of lust. My husband really struggled with it and no longer is. Finding a woman attractive isn’t lusting. You can in fact be delivered from lust.
@ the line of fire….. what about the whole perfectionism, do yall believe we can be sinlessly perfect on this side, like we can have fellowship with Jesus if we sin ( Christian perfection ?? What is that??)
Mark 6:4-13 King James Version (KJV) But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief.
I truly wish anyone of Todd’s critics would take the time and break down Justin Peter’s videos. Find the original video of Todd’s. Find the full context. You will always… key words always find deeper meaning for why Todd says and preaches the message. Some of what he says is cringe… but his heart was trying to teach on something that is cringe. Sin is very cringe and gross. Both of Justin Peters videos broken apart where was Jesus in your sin.. did he not take our sins..(individualized each sin) so take each sin and truly place on him your sin. One sin at a time… truly look into His eyes and listen to what Jesus says to you. Todd absolutely loves Jesus with his whole heart and loves people the same way. Ask yourself with all this scrutiny not one ounce of true scandalous picture. Just horrific photoshop thumbnails for clickbait that can’t even get his mentor right. Two videos of where Todd says KC is his mentor. Okay when does teach in Todd’s school. Even Dr Michael has more time in his school. KC has no direct influence in Todd’s teachings. No one can ever produce KC says this Todd says this the same way. Todd’s mentor is Dan Mohler. Listen to Dan Mohler preach prior to listening to Todd preach. It will help you to understand who Todd truly is. A man that loves Jesus. And a man that loves people.
Brother Michael Brown and brother Ray Comfort have blessed my walk with Jesus. They get attacked and it is sad. Personally I think Todd White should not be a leader or teacher
I Love You Dr. Brown! Even if I were to believe you’re being misled, that is NOT your fault (which I do not). Your love for Our Lord is second to none sir 🙏
Leg growing is the most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard or seen. It’s made up and that’s why it has stopped. People started calling it out so the power left? SMH! Disgusting!
Todd White makes me uncomfortable. Isn’t it possible our gut feelings about someone’s ministry should be listened to. I am glad Todd White is saved from a horrible life, but I just can’t consider him a serious teacher of the Bible. And don’t you think it is possible that people like me have something instructive to say when we critique someone like Todd White. And you do confuse me. I remember when you were defending Mike Bickle. You could be wrong. Todd is smart. He is sincere. But I can’t stand listening to him preach. I sense something wrong.
Justin Peters did Todd White dirty!!!! Todd White absolutely loves Jesus with his whole heart… and doesn’t come from a theological background who tries to teach in such a way that you are convicted of your sin. Sometimes it’s cringe but isn’t sin??? Sin is gross but we have to deal with it… First off Dan Mohler is his real mentor… ask yourself why you don’t know that?? Maybe because KC is clickbait??? Let’s go through his videos… First off in his alligator head room… He starts off humble… looking to only expose truth however he “needs” to share how Todd’s a really bad preacher… he then explains that he needs to step down… (sets the tone and gets you the audience in a frenzy) Then plays a clip… Quickly misinterprets what Todd says and reinforces how Todd needs to step down… (To continue your focus on the misinterpretation). I even fell for it. Example… Jesus was p* on a tree.. Todd clearly states that.. “Jesus never did that.” He took it.. Justin says he metamorphed.. Todd’s mistake he individualized sins.. to make it more personal. Todd never mentions how Jesus actually turned into the sin. Because of how your brain was so focused on what Justin says you never truly listened to what Todd says or doesn’t say… 2nd video… Jesus was watching *^%%% with you .. video. What is Todd saying.. Jesus is omnipresent. Todd is Not saying He is holding a Kleenex with a bowl of popcorn the way Justin presents. This video you can find for full context.. where Todd was trying to get you understand where Jesus is (was) so that you would stop living in sin…. Clear REPENTANCE!!! Where was Jesus in your most embarrassing sin??? It’s gross and cringe… but where was Jesus and what was He saying??? This broke my condemnation!!! When I truly thought about it. Both of these very cringe wordings… yes very cringe and weird. But highly impactful.. maybe that’s why the attack. Instead of dealing with the grossness of your own sin it’s way easier to attack Todd. It’s easier to attack Todd actually talking about how He loves Jesus. Does Justin?? Any 5 minute clip will outperform Justin full length.. Todd talks more about Jesus in those 5 minutes than Justin ever has. Todd lives out what Jesus commands us to do. Todd’s video never sinned… Todd only says he doesn’t look lustfully at a woman. His very next line that isn’t mentioned.. Todd says 2nd thought. It’s possible especially if you spend 2 1/2 hours every morning… all day teaching on Jesus.. Todd only mentions Kenneth Copeland twice!!!! Why?? maybe KC is generous and donated money to help Todd start that building school… KC as far as I know has never taught in his school or conferences!!! Dan Mohler is his mentor… hundreds if not thousands of videos. Todd mirrors his teachings!!!! Watch Dan preach for a video or two… to regain how you view Todd. Now if you were true to criticize Todd. His gospel message is upside down… meaning he teaches from Gods perspective in the future tense… Like if I stepped in front of my daughter as a bullet was heading her way. I did it because of who she was to become… She might be young and sinful… but I saved her because I know she is worth saving!!
How does any Messianic Jew believe in healings when it isn't in the Tanach? If it's because of sin, no one can heal us but God. If Jesus died for our sins & we're free from the results, Paul & the rest of us wouldn't be struggling with continuing in them. We're all broken until we die. Sorry people. It's called aging. Grow old gracefully, short leg, long leg, no leg. Actually, if someone has 2 different leg lengths, who are we to say which one is actually shorter when the other can just be longer? It's all perspective. Except Paul's teaching. As we see, it's caused continuing debates on who's right - & it ain't Paul.
Look, Todd White is a great lover of our Lord Jesus. If he says that a leg grew, so be it-that’s his testimony of faith. If he says someone he prayed for got healed, then again, that’s his testimony of faith in Christ. His goal is not to get rich, for goodness' sake, but to simply be obedient to the Word of God! To you critics, what have you done to spread the gospel? If we believe that miracles are for today, then that’s our belief. If you don’t, then don’t-but at least preach the gospel to the lost. If you believe people will get healed, pray with them. If not, just share the Word. Todd White has been doing this even before he was full-time; he’s doing it out of his love for God.
I had the privilege of praying for somebody's left to grow out. Before my eyes God healed somebody. Was most amazing thing to experience. God is amazing
Dr. Brown, you are gracious as ever! Even apologizing for something I did not even find necessary. You are a great example to everyone, not only for your knowledge, but also for this humble side you are showing. Let's learn from him, folks, and don't be so confronting - even though you may feel you are right.
@LFTV I saw the video I personally heard him say it are you saying it's a edited clip going around I wouldn't doubt it with all the hate he get but I will look into it
@@LFTVyou’re bearing false witness. He has said this numerous times. Or either you’re not doing your research and then claiming it as though you know for a fact when you obviously don’t. Either way… you’re being dishonest. Please correct this.
At one point Todd White said..."there's a time for everyone to be born again" 😳😳😳 Where does he find that in Scripture exactly? Because not everyone will be born again. Also, how can it be that after 20 years of being born again he still uses God's name in vain???
“For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.” I Timothy 4:10 NKJV Todd believing for everyone’s salvation doesn’t necessarily say it will absolutely happen(Universalism). Similar to his examples that he believes for every healing, even knowing that not everyone will be healed. “Deliver me from my enemies, O my God; Defend me from those who rise up against me.” Psalms 59:1 NKJV I don’t get the impression that he’s trying to be disrespectful when saying, “OMG”, particularly when people are literally exclaiming to God about a healing they are witnessing from God. Exclaiming in praise and astonishment at our amazing God can clearly be reverent and not in vain when judging the heart. If you feel strongly about it, I suggest you speak directly to Todd in private about it. ““Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.” Matthew 18:15-17 NKJV “Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For each one shall bear his own load.” Galatians 6:1-5 NKJV
@@KoLecnac 1 Timothy 4:10 "For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe." It starts off by saying, "we have our hope set on the living God," so this means that ALL people have hope in the living God? Are you panthiest? Soooo, then you also interpret John 3:16 in the same way then? Because many, many, many believe in Jesus...so does that mean they're all born again? Including all catholics? 20 years after being born again and still uses God's name in vain just like the world does? I find it also alarming that he hardly picks up the Bible while preaching and doesn't do any expository teaching from what I know. My friend, we should be able to discern rightly if we're in the Spirit, and not try to explain things away. Just because someone loves Jesus and and teach what they know, does not necessarily mean they've received the Holy Spirit. Not saying if he has or not...I'm just speaking in general and that some things he says and does are very questionable. We need to pray for Todd. ❤️
He preach that jesus did his miracles as a man, layed down his divinity. He preach that jesus went to hell to be born again. Both horrible heresy. Not fit to preach, doesn't know the gospel. Open your eyes and your ears. 1:03:20 1:03:20
Ipso Facto. ALWAYS. Yahshua heals. He restores. He sets free. He grows legs, pillars of His temple: us! (Yachin and Boaz as pillars in Solomon's temple mean: YHWH Establishes Strength) His Ruach haQ'Dosh in us moves mountains of sickness, sin, despair, hopelessness, penury, unequal legs/balance and horror. HE sets us free - with no charge except to love and obey His Father's Commandments and to love our neighbour as our self. When we obey and heal the sick; raise the dead, cast out demons and cleanse the leper, as He commands, we are doing just That. The Two Sticks, The Two Houses, The Two Witnesses truly have been coming together as One New Man in these "last days" (2000 years) as we see in the Parable of the Good Samaritan: Joseph and Judah: Together ~ Ezekiel 37:16 and it is marvelous in our eyes!
From the Line of Fire team: For those who may have misunderstood Dr. Brown's comments, he does not believe Todd White uses parlor tricks and deception, otherwise he would call it out. When he said he could care less about leg growing, what he meant was that the phenomenon or claims of it are meaningless to him. His issue is whether people were genuinely healed by the Lord.
I Personally knew Evangelists that God used gold filling teeth. My mother had a tooth gold filled by another evangelist. My wife had stage four cancer. She went to the altar; not for healing. The guest speaker was used in word of knowledge, pointed to the affected area and said “that cancer leaves now”, she was healed.
I think that’s the issue that many people have with Dr. Brown’s stance on Todd White and other Charismatics. It has been demonstrably shown (certainly in Todd White’s case) that he is engaging in willful deception. And if you consider that along with some of his aberrant teachings, and troubling associations, it’s not hard to see why people would want to mark and avoid him and NOT defend him just because he SEEMS like a sincere guy. Also it should be noted that in Scripture we are warned of people bringing false signs and wonders. So yeah…real healings may take place, or real-looking healings may take place…but what is that person teaching and demonstrating? We need to be careful and in this case, as with others, I think Dr Brown could use a bit more discernment and wisdom. I know we would disagree on that account. Please know I’m not attacking Dr. Brown here, I do still find value in some of Dr. Browns other teachings, but on this issue of Todd White specifically and discernment more broadly, I think he has a huge blind spot.
I do not like how you handled the people that are criticizing you, by saying....oh...I feel so bad for you. It is patronizing and wrong. Also I do not like that you said Chrstns can't be Spiritual Jws, that is wrong because We are supposed to provoke the Jws to jealousy, not the other way around. I abbreviated to deal with YTube cnsrshp, no disrespect. God Bless you, I do love you and I think you are doing good work.
Dr. Brown is in desperate need for the gift of discernment. I feel sorry for him. I pray for the very thing.
@@bcm1621 He is working from the point Jesus made, that if vessel is not against us he is for us.
Anyone who supports, associates, and partners with Kenneth Copeland in ministry should be marked and avoided, and that is exactly what Todd White does. Kenneth Copeland is his mentor and spiritual father.
Agreed
The subject is not that simple. Please don't be fooled. ❤
I have a question for you. Do you think evangelist Reinhard Bonnke is a servant of God or a wolf?
Dr. Brown, Has it ever occurred to you that being a preacher and teacher of the gospel is so important and so serious that people who are inexperienced and new to the Bible and prayer should be held back from leadership until they have educated themselves in the Word and practiced it for many, many years and proved themselves patient and actually listening to God? My point is this: When I get on a plane I want that pilot to follow all the safety rules, a check list, I want him to have a good record; I want experience when I have a surgery, and I want someone well practiced, perfectly practiced. Having someone teach and preach the gospel is as important as having an excellent pilot and a well practiced excellent physician. Todd White is someone with zeal, but do I want him to teach my children? NO! I don’t care how many hours one spends in prayer or Bible study, if your zeal drives you to have to be on top like Todd White you should not be in the ministry. Why can’t you see that? And as far as Todd having a right heart toward God. You don’t know his heart. I don’t know his heart. But I do know people like Todd, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and so on make me uncomfortable. And your inability to see through the man Mike Bickle of IHOPKC is case in point. There were red flags. Pay attention! And furthermore, a person’s soul is more important to God than anything we do on earth supposedly in His name. Todd is a showman and can’t help himself, he should not be an example of a good teacher or preacher. Let him humble himself for a few years. Even Paul, who was educated above and beyond any of you in the scripture took his time to really understand what God wanted him to do before beginning the ministry God gave him. Thank you for reading this, if you actually do. I hope you do read it.
Cheap parlor trick from a false teacher.
a cheap reply from a false believer
I think the waters are muddy...because it can be a "false parlor trick" and it can also be a healing. So it's really a case by case. And even if some are faking things sometimes, does not mean some are not sometimes getting healed either. It makes it so difficult to be far away and call the shots on all of it. I've seen many prayed for and no immediate healings (of all different kinds) and I have seen many immediate healings (of all different kinds). I am not better than anyone else at determining when and why God will heal or why he won't in the moment or why he sometimes does the healing later that night or the next day. It's up to him (God) to heal or not. It's up to us to pray and ask him to heal. There is no burden or pressure on any of use to heal, because we cannot. The same name that is cursed over and over, that very same name spoken over an illness or injury can bring healing. Incredible. There's no formula or special prayer..there is just the power and person of God...and he has a will of his own.
Dr. Brown, I had a problem with my hip for over a year. It was painful and could not find relief. A visiting pastor at my church asked if anyone had a hip problem, my daughter pointed me out to him. I wasn’t sold on this healing ministry and words of knowledge. When he did the leg lengthening “trick”, I was embarrassed and extremely skeptical. I was not a faithful believer in this and felt as if it was all a show. The Lord healed me anyway. That has been four years ago and have never experienced hip issues since. I was a reluctant recipient of God’s grace. If God can help someone who exhibited no faith or expectancy what can He do for someone a little faith? I have been a charismatic believer for over 50 years but I thought some of these healers were fake and sensationalist.
Some of them are.
I was once very skeptical of the whole leg growing thing.
Then one morning after I had finished preaching, I asked if anyone needed prayer for anything.
A couple said that their daughter had been suffering and had one leg shorter than the other.
She came up front and sat in a chair. Indeed, one leg was an inch or so shorter.
I said (inside myself) " OK Lord, I'm going to pray for this".
I held both feet up and prayed. The leg grew out right before my eyes!
I have since come to understand that many times it is simply a rotated hip. Funny thing is, God knows what the issue is and how to fix it, no matter how we address the issue in our prayer of faith.
Why not show Todd the videos exposing his schemes and allow him to irrefutably rebuke them? Why not ask why he preaches Jesus was child porn on the cross? Was it also Todd who said he has reached sinless perfection? ( the last one i think was him, but cant remember for sure). I have some of Dr. Browns books and think he writes well on some topics, but his discernment is almost nonexistent. With limited funding and space for a personal library, i cant say he is someone i would continue to collect books from. Todd's caricature of cessationism, also, is completely false. Of course we believe miracles still occur and the Spirit is active, please research before you misrepresent another view.
From the Line of Fire team: We encourage you to look more carefully at some of the statements attributed to Todd White, since he is often quoted inaccurately.
God healed my back at the Brownsville Revival while John Bevere was on the platform. He wasn't even praying for people. My first service was a Wednesday night Brownsville School Of Ministry service with Dr. Michael Brown. A rushing wind blew through the church that night. People were yelling Jesus, Jesus. It was absolutely mind blowing!!!
When are people going to understand it’s not about man but God receiving His glory, The Father doesn’t bring glory to man but His Son Jesus. Beautiful Testimony. 🙏🏼
@@Pablo.S3 Amen! God deserves all the glory!
Dr. Brown, why hasn't Todd White gone to St Jude Children's Hospital and do his miraculous healings there? I believe people would be convinced then that he has truly healed others.
Why didn’t Paul heal Timothy?
Why didn’t Jesus heal everyone in John 5:2 where there lay a multitude of sick people around the pool of Bethesda? Only one got healed.
I'm not endorsing Todd White but with all due respect it would depend on God. I had a relative that was a believer that was sick for almost 2 decades but one time they were in fellowship when they were prayed for and miraculously healed by God. Could God have healed them in the first year of their sickness instead of almost 2 decades later? Of course but only God knows all things. Perhaps certain people's faith became stronger because of it or someone actually came to true faith in Jesus because of it or both. Even someone else in their job was telling others about the miracle that the Lord had done. God knows and He is the one that determines things not us and we are to try to align to His will. He is the one that searches our hearts. Praise God.
That’s quit silly Jesus healed all those that believed…you can’t walk into a hospital with people full of doubt.
Mark 6:4-13 King James Version (KJV)
But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief.
@@newworldgrover8588There's a lot of Scripture, including that very important one you referenced, that clue in why not all people are healed. James 1 about asking in faith with no doubting, otherwise you won't receive anything is a repeat of what Jesus said in Matthew about the mountain. You must speak to the mountain in faith AND have no doubt on your heart, and it will be moved.
That's why it's harder to see miracles on the United States than desperate places like in South America and Africa. They don't have an unbelief problem.
Love you Dr. Brown. It's refreshing to see you so strong in the faith. You encourage us all.
Brother, you can try to cover for why you platform Todd white all you want… but he is still a false teacher.
A man that says “God is not in control, the Bible doesn’t teach that” is someone you support?
A man who has been proven to trick and lie to people is someone you platform?
I’m sure he’s a loving and nice man and seems as such. But you have to be a pastor and a leader and a “discerner” as you claim and call it what it is.
The Bible doesn’t call us to do everything as pastor but it does tell us to call out false teaching… not promote it.
Love you brother, but this one isn’t wise
God doesn’t control everything that happens is what he means. The scripture doesn’t support extreme sovereignty teaching. Todd hasn’t been proven to trick anyone. Just skepticism and accusations 😂
@@austindeborn1111there is video evidence of him over and over and over talking out of both sides of his mouth deceptively. And there has been video evidence showing him using the leg lengthening in a deceptive manner.
And how about him saying “God became sex trafficking on a tree”? There’s a difference in being imperfect versus unqualified to teach. He is the latter.
@@Reader234 Did you see the roundtable w/ Michael Brown and Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett on the American Gospel u tube channel? Michael Brown was so condescending. I was embarrassed for him.
@@eeg0415i did. It was horrible and yes i agree he was beyond condescending.
The one with Peter’s and Osman was worse imo. He seriously thinks people believe him that he has never seen Sid Roth’s show? So he went on a show he has never watched to host for his friend… not knowing how any of it works? That makes no sense at all.
Also love how he says “i didn’t come to debate” then debates them and tries to “win”
No need to explain as far as I am concerned. That interview was a powerhouse. I'd never heard Todd White speak and was blown away by his testimony and evident love for Jesus. If every person professing to be a Christian had even one tenth of the zeal for Jesus that Todd White has, this world would look quite different. Love you brother!
BTW… it’s pretty easy to put an end to the leg growing controversy. Dr. Brown, ask Todd to keep his hands off of the leg he’s “growing” and see if it grows on its own from prayer alone. Pretty easy way to end the debate in my opinion..
When I was younger we had someone who claimed to grow legs come to our church, my trouble with this is why didn't he ask to heal other ailments.
You would have to ask him. From my experiences...some have "gifts of healing" where they see a larger amount of people healed than most others that pray for healing...sometimes they see a lot of healing only in a specific area or ailment....if that is the case, they may then keep praying for the area(s) they have seen things happen....But of course, it could also be trying to show healings when they don't see healings and maybe it's easier to publicly demonstrate... Or perhaps some other reason. For all of us, we are accountable for what we do, what we don't do. God will judge. If they are serving God, they will have rewards from God..if they are serving themselves, the glory they get on Earth will be all they get from it.
"Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother, and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?"
James 4:11-12
@LFTV Dr. Brown, as a fellow messianic Jew, and a fellow Charismatic Christian, I learn so much from you on how to handle that endless criticism and division in the Church of Jesus Christ!
I pray our Father to bless your ministry and give you strength, patience and wisdom. In Jesus name! 🙏
I can understand people can think its fake, but last night I saw it happen over 10 times. You could see it in their faces who received prayer that their leg got an extension. I use to be skeptical, but its clear to me now that although some may fake it, this is indeed real.
I really needed to hear Todd's testimony today. I was in a mall passively waiting for God to make something happen so I could share Jesus and nothing happened. I see clearly that God wants us to take the initiative as the Spirit leads.
I love Dr. Michael Brown and The Line of Fire, I try to listen every chance I get and it has taught me so much!
BUT this is just ridiculous Dr. Brown! How can you say for example that you don’t care whether someone uses deliberate deception and fools people into thinking their leg grew?! It only matters to you whether the person was then subsequently healed? God can use anything to heal someone but that doesn’t excuse the sin of the person God may have used. For example Judas went out with the disciples and performed miracles, but he is not excused for his own betrayal.
And then you say stuff like I had a friend that testified that Todd White is always preaching the Gospel and practices what he preaches. That’s not the issue! Again, I’m sure if you asked the other disciples about Judas before his betrayal they would say the same sorts of things “Yeah he’s great, he’s been with us for 3 years travelling, he’s healed with us, cast out demons with us, spreads Jesus message always”. But just because outward appearances are all good doesn’t make the inside clean.
Same with Heidi Baker, you say I know she has a charity in Mozambique. Ok, what does that have to do with anything? There are muslim charities, atheist charities, very nice kind loving generous people all over the world, but that has nothing to do with doctrinal issues!
The issue with the interview with Todd White was not the title of the video! It was the fact that you even just said your intention was to question him about the specific accusations that the leg lengthening being intentionally deceptive, but you did not do that. And you have failed to address it again in this video!
From the Line of Fire team: You appear to have misunderstood Dr. Brown's comments, he does not believe Todd White uses parlor tricks and deception, otherwise he would call it out. When he said he could care less about leg growing, what he meant was that the phenomenon or claims of it are meaningless to him. His issue is whether people were genuinely healed by the Lord. As for Heidi Baker, who has a Ph.D. in Systematic Theology, she preaches Jesus and lives by the Word and leads many people to Jesus. Dr. Brown encourages those who challenge the validity of her ministry to see it first hand in Mozambique.
@@LFTVfyi, academic titles do not prove anything about the state of a soul or the accuracy of theology. Even your ministry would affirm that, so don't be hypocritical
Jesus is considered 'controversial' by some, but to me, Jesus is the Messiah!
Michael, I was baptized in the Holy Spirit at Beth Messiah as a 13 or 14 years old by Sid Roth privately in the hallway. My life has never been the same, I have seen with my own eyes so many miracles my whole life the leg thing seems like no big deal. Anyway Sid as u already know is the real deal along with yourself.
Thank you for all you do. Proud to be a Torch Bearer
Keep giving Todd a platform. It was a good interview.
Todd should have prayed for Dr. Brown’s eyes to be healed so he wouldn’t need glasses anymore…
A pastor said to me that unless I speak in tongues I'm not full of the Holy Spirit. That said I'm 67 and now suddenly reading scriptures and understanding them more than ever before. My eyes were opened up just this year and now I speak Boldly the words of God. I asked a pastor a question at a men's breakfast and he refused to answer it. However, all other questions he answered from everyone else. I got in his face and asked him what he was afraid of and why is he afraid of the Words of God. He got a bit flushed in the face and gave me a silly excuse.
I am embarrassed by the way the Charismatic movement has degenerated. When I first encountered it I was thrilled and encouraged that God was still active in tangible ways with his followers. But look at the extremes to which it has fallen! Sid Roth who made a good start has descended into some crazy teachings. Look how this legitimate movement, at first, has given way to the frightful Prosperity gospel. It is tempting to become a Cessationist!
I thank God,for you,Dr Brown. I love your teaching. And I feel sad I can't afford to bless you but I do pray for God's wisdom and protection over your life and family. We need to pray for one another. I thank Jesus for giving me the strength and heart to pray for genuine ministers for God. I need prayers too for our ministry too. To me,God's healings are real ,and God can send angels to be an urgent technician too. Today I do share my testimony how God appeared and have touched me,and healed me too. Many miracles,it's nothing to make up stories about Jesus,but it's really true. I've seen Sid Rod's, supernatural are true. I will agree and God do visit. I've experienced. I thank God for his shows too. God is presence in your show,I don't understand why people complained of faith ministers. We are answerable for every speech n deeds we do,to God. We need to fear and reverand God in all our ways. I pray for believers to have an encounter with Jesus for time is short. And I believe,if they experience God they will stop criticizing those whom God using them to do His supernatural. I'm blessed with your teaching,I'm truly thankful God ,God bless you,Dr. Priscilla Ong from Malaysia. Shaom
I'm tired of Pentecostals pulling people's legs. I mean that both as a figure of speech, and unfortunately.. literally. There is a serious lack of discernment in our camp right now. Its hard to hold onto Pentecostal distinctives when I'm seeing so much none-sense. Still love y'all dearly.
“Jesus became child pornography on the cross” - Todd White
Yes because Child Pornography is sin and Christ became sin. Is there an issue?
@@garfunkle37 For Jesus to “become” sin, even for a moment, would mean He ceased to be God. God made him . . . to be sin for us” means that Jesus, although sinless, was treated as if He were not. Although He remained holy, He was regarded as guilty of all the sin in the world. Through imputation of our sin to Him, He became our substitute and the recipient of God’s judgment against sin. Having saved those who believe, He is now “our righteousness, holiness and redemption” (1 Corinthians 1:30)
@@stevedrummin nice exegesis but I got a question: When's the last time you prayed for someone random on the street like Todd does every day? And what's your heart's intention in trying to slander Todd as a heretic or false teacher (which I assume you are doing from your initial comment)? Are you dealing with the log in your own eye? Are you criticising out of love or out of self-righteousness?
@@garfunkle37slander is when something is not true. Todd white is a false prophet and false teacher, this has been proven over and over and over. What’s ironic is you don’t seem to have a problem being slanderous as you claim toward this brother, yet accuse him of such? So it’s okay to be slanderous when it benefits you?
@@garfunkle37you’re also trying to deflect in an accusatory way of Todd whites bad theology. Jesus did not become sex trafficking on a tree as the brother corrected. Todd white also said that “Jesus is in bed watching pornography with you” that’s a very disgusting heresy. Do you have a problem with him saying that?
You’re assuming nobody prays for Todd White just because we call out his false teaching? The Bible commands us to call out false teaching. Dr. Brown seems to think it’s not a big deal but pastors are held to call out and protect their sheep. Not protect false teachers
Cant listen to every troll. They always have their biases. Trust yourself and God
I love you brother Michael, however there is somthing not right about you putting statutes of limitations on heresy, which is sin. IF there is any heresy that Todd White has comitted in his ministry, and IF he has not repented publicly then that wrong doing, it is still outstanding and we are commanded not to fellowship with such an one until they are restored through repentance. Also since Todd holds the office of a pastor he is held to a much higher standard, so if he has sinned greviously (which I am not accusing him of), then he would potentially be disqualified from ministry and not to be given a platform or recognised as a church leader.
This comment is written in love to help you see how we must discern who to associate with, who to tacitly endorse, or fully endorse.
God bless, & keep fighting the good fight
From the Line of Fire team: Of course, if a heresy was preached 10 years ago and never repented of, it must be called out. Dr. Brown's point was that Todd has corrected some of his earlier theology, so he wanted to be sure if there was an error, it remained so before addressing it. Thanks for your concerns!
Why is it we are more comfortable with words than with the overt power of the Holy Spirit in practice? Jesus seemed to walk in constant overt miracles, and said those who followed would do even greater works. About 5 years ago a stranger came up to me unannounced, identified a physical problem I had rarely shared with anyone, prayed a simple prayer in Jesus name, and I was instantly and permanently healed of that. I don't know who he was, never saw him again, although he had a toddler on his hip so I suppose he was a family man close 30 yrs old.
I saw someone doing leg growing twenty years ago and it was obviously false then. He may have believed what he was doing, it doesn't matter, we need to be more discerning. What he would have people do is sit in a chair and he would pull on their legs and one would lengthen. But it was obvious that all that was happening is that the persons pelvis would rotate so that one leg would go forward and the other back. None of them were ever actually healed.
If believers start being rationally sceptical all religions will disappear.
@@davethebrahman9870is that your belief?
None of us can claim omniscience; we need to pray for one another in these days of confusion & search the Word on issues of belief
Todd White's "little gods" teaching seems wrong to me. I used to really like him, but the more I understand the Bible the further I've gotten away from him and the Bethel crowd who teaches the same thing.
From the Line of Fire team: Thanks for your comment. Can you let us know when Todd has taught that?
@@LFTV He doesn't outright say "little gods" like Paula White or Kenneth Copeland have BUT he teaches what amounts to the same idea, for instance that it is possible to live without sin on the level Jesus did and that we can heal every single sick person like Jesus did. He takes it to such an extreme as if there was no difference between us (believers) and Jesus. Surely any human would have a moment of pride, accidentally not give someone the correct change, not be perfectly accurate in their words even a fleeting sinful thought - we can't be perfect to the level Jesus is because He is God. And as someone who believes in praying for the sick and that God still heals - surely there are moments God isn't going to heal someone for His purposes. It seems Todd is quite unyielding in his teaching on this - if Jesus healed every person who crossed His path so should we. However it's been thousands of years, and have we ever heard of any human being able to do that? It's still only been and ever has been Jesus who has done that so completely, so perfectly.
I understand what Dr. Michael Brown is going through. He believes in God's power, he has grace for the charismatic, he wants God's gifts... but he can read.😂
Man, we can READ so we KNOW a lot of this stuff is BADLY misunderstood.
Lord help us.
Dr. Brown I love your youtube channel and I highly respect you and I love that you teach that scripture should interpret scripture, however I must agree with the crowd, you should stay away from Todd White.
Yes. I do stand with Israel,never forget to pray the peace of Jerusalem too. Salvation is God's desire for the Jews. Amen
I feel so bad for us as believers, Jesus follows, people that are just hateful & mean …. Where is The Fruit of the Spirit? And if you don’t have the Spirit are we his ?
Lord GOD HOLY SPIRIT PLZ help us all plz help us my spirit hurts over this can YOU GOD talk speak to your children, let us know this ain’t right, teach us to LOVE one another even if we don’t agree on lesser things
@LFTV Firstly, I have been edified by your ministry for many years! My love for Jesus, for people and for the Scriptures have grown and my hatred for sin has grown as a result of your ministry. As a matter of fact, I ordered your new book "Hearts of Compassion, Backbones of Steel" and it arrived in the mail today!! Secondly, for the leg-growing controversy, I know it's impossible to cater to all critics, but in order to give thought to do what's honorable in the sight of all (Rom. 12:17) and pursue what makes for peace and mutual upbuilding (Romans 14:19), I'm wondering if an easy fix would be to recommend Todd White pray for the leg-healing by simply placing a hand on the shoulder rather than holding both feet. This way, White can continue praying for people's legs to grow out, the miracle can still occur, and the whole appearance of evil (parlor-trick foot-pulling) can be avoided. I heard Joshua Lewis from the Remnant Radio suggest this as a possible solution a while ago (I'm sorry, I can't remember which video I heard him say this). I understand that even Jesus seemed to require unique ways of doing miracles sometimes like rubbing mud on a guy's eyes, but this foot-holding doesn't seem like a unique, one-time, spirit-led type of miracle. The foot-holding just seems to be a default position that can easily be swapped with a position that doesn't have the appearance of parlor-trickery. I think we would make a similar suggestion to a person who looks like they are pushing people down during ministry time to make it look like people are getting slain in the spirit. The way we would probably recommend a person slay someone in the spirit is by, if anything, barely touching the person and, obviously, allowing God to do the heavy-lifting of overpowering someone if He wants to. It seems like that same principle of demonstrating that God is doing the heavy-lifting could be applied to the Todd White leg growing controversy. Also, I know one of White's points in your interview was that, regardless of what it looks like, the end result is that people involved received an actual healing. If Todd White could just do a little extra work and collect the medical documents from those actual healings and ask for permission to share some of those documents, that might make some of the critics be quiet. It seems like they respond more to hard evidence and less to hearsay.
Todd White literally said he hasnt sinned in the 20 years since hes been saved. What more do you need to hear about him? The embodiment of a false teacher
Did he say he never sinned or that he just didn’t sin intentionally/ deliberately? Or that he didn’t lust after a woman? I thought I saw a video about that and that was the context.
@@fineartbymattphilleo Yes, it was the one where he said he hasn't lusted after a woman in 2 decades. If a man hasn't lusted after a woman for 2 decades, then he also hasn't committed any other sins. The context was that he was so radically changed by the holy spirit that he became a sinless man.
From the Line of Fire team: We encourage you not to bear false witness on our platform. Thanks! Yes, Todd claims that God supernaturally delivered him from sexual temptation, as He has delivered others from other temptations. He does NOT claim to be sinless and has apologized publicly and privately for sinning in other ways. (We won't respond further here, but unless you can back your claims with documented evidence from unedited videos, we remind you that bearing false witness is a sin itself.)
@@LFTVI hope that I didn’t speak anything against Todd. That certainly wasn’t my intent. Rather, the opposite. I hold him in high regard for what appears to me as a great passion for Jesus and helping people through healing. I was trying to give context as a reply to the person who wrote about him on the top. Perhaps my memory doesn’t serve me correctly. If I did anything wrong please forgive me and may the Lord forgive me as well! Let the Lord be the ultimate judge of His people-and have mercy on all of us through Jesus Christ!
@@ijclnl48men can get victory of lust. My husband really struggled with it and no longer is. Finding a woman attractive isn’t lusting. You can in fact be delivered from lust.
@ the line of fire….. what about the whole perfectionism, do yall believe we can be sinlessly perfect on this side, like we can have fellowship with Jesus if we sin ( Christian perfection ?? What is that??)
Mark 6:4-13 King James Version (KJV)
But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief.
I truly wish anyone of Todd’s critics would take the time and break down Justin Peter’s videos. Find the original video of Todd’s. Find the full context. You will always… key words always find deeper meaning for why Todd says and preaches the message. Some of what he says is cringe… but his heart was trying to teach on something that is cringe. Sin is very cringe and gross. Both of Justin Peters videos broken apart where was Jesus in your sin.. did he not take our sins..(individualized each sin) so take each sin and truly place on him your sin. One sin at a time… truly look into His eyes and listen to what Jesus says to you.
Todd absolutely loves Jesus with his whole heart and loves people the same way. Ask yourself with all this scrutiny not one ounce of true scandalous picture. Just horrific photoshop thumbnails for clickbait that can’t even get his mentor right.
Two videos of where Todd says KC is his mentor. Okay when does teach in Todd’s school. Even Dr Michael has more time in his school.
KC has no direct influence in Todd’s teachings. No one can ever produce KC says this Todd says this the same way.
Todd’s mentor is Dan Mohler.
Listen to Dan Mohler preach prior to listening to Todd preach. It will help you to understand who Todd truly is. A man that loves Jesus. And a man that loves people.
Brother Michael Brown and brother Ray Comfort have blessed my walk with Jesus. They get attacked and it is sad. Personally I think Todd White should not be a leader or teacher
I Love You Dr. Brown!
Even if I were to believe you’re being misled, that is NOT your fault (which I do not).
Your love for Our Lord is second to none sir 🙏
Leg growing is the most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard or seen. It’s made up and that’s why it has stopped. People started calling it out so the power left? SMH!
Disgusting!
@drmichaelbrown be encouraged, Jesus came performed marvelous phenomenal miracles and was shunned, mocked, and crucified.
Dr. Brown, the fact that you promote Todd White reveals to me that you are not trustworthy
Todd White makes me uncomfortable. Isn’t it possible our gut feelings about someone’s ministry should be listened to. I am glad Todd White is saved from a horrible life, but I just can’t consider him a serious teacher of the Bible. And don’t you think it is possible that people like me have something instructive to say when we critique someone like Todd White. And you do confuse me. I remember when you were defending Mike Bickle. You could be wrong. Todd is smart. He is sincere. But I can’t stand listening to him preach. I sense something wrong.
Are we 😊serious here. With sll going on Todds leg thing. Jesus help us focus on you 😢😢
It’s insane why legs
Justin Peters did Todd White dirty!!!!
Todd White absolutely loves Jesus with his whole heart… and doesn’t come from a theological background who tries to teach in such a way that you are convicted of your sin. Sometimes it’s cringe but isn’t sin??? Sin is gross but we have to deal with it…
First off Dan Mohler is his real mentor… ask yourself why you don’t know that?? Maybe because KC is clickbait???
Let’s go through his videos…
First off in his alligator head room…
He starts off humble… looking to only expose truth however he “needs” to share how Todd’s a really bad preacher… he then explains that he needs to step down… (sets the tone and gets you the audience in a frenzy)
Then plays a clip…
Quickly misinterprets what Todd says and reinforces how Todd needs to step down…
(To continue your focus on the misinterpretation). I even fell for it.
Example… Jesus was p* on a tree.. Todd clearly states that..
“Jesus never did that.” He took it..
Justin says he metamorphed..
Todd’s mistake he individualized sins.. to make it more personal.
Todd never mentions how Jesus actually turned into the sin. Because of how your brain was so focused on what Justin says you never truly listened to what Todd says or doesn’t say…
2nd video… Jesus was watching *^%%% with you .. video.
What is Todd saying.. Jesus is omnipresent. Todd is Not saying He is holding a Kleenex with a bowl of popcorn the way Justin presents. This video you can find for full context.. where Todd was trying to get you understand where Jesus is (was) so that you would stop living in sin…. Clear REPENTANCE!!!
Where was Jesus in your most embarrassing sin??? It’s gross and cringe… but where was Jesus and what was He saying???
This broke my condemnation!!!
When I truly thought about it.
Both of these very cringe wordings… yes very cringe and weird. But highly impactful.. maybe that’s why the attack. Instead of dealing with the grossness of your own sin it’s way easier to attack Todd.
It’s easier to attack Todd actually talking about how He loves Jesus.
Does Justin??
Any 5 minute clip will outperform Justin full length.. Todd talks more about Jesus in those 5 minutes than Justin ever has.
Todd lives out what Jesus commands us to do.
Todd’s video never sinned…
Todd only says he doesn’t look lustfully at a woman.
His very next line that isn’t mentioned.. Todd says 2nd thought.
It’s possible especially if you spend 2 1/2 hours every morning… all day teaching on Jesus..
Todd only mentions Kenneth Copeland twice!!!! Why?? maybe KC is generous and donated money to help Todd start that building school…
KC as far as I know has never taught in his school or conferences!!!
Dan Mohler is his mentor… hundreds if not thousands of videos.
Todd mirrors his teachings!!!!
Watch Dan preach for a video or two… to regain how you view Todd.
Now if you were true to criticize Todd. His gospel message is upside down… meaning he teaches from Gods perspective in the future tense…
Like if I stepped in front of my daughter as a bullet was heading her way. I did it because of who she was to become…
She might be young and sinful… but I saved her because I know she is worth saving!!
If God can miraculously pour out His Spirit in Revival, surely He can heal. “These signs shall follow them….”
How does any Messianic Jew believe in healings when it isn't in the Tanach? If it's because of sin, no one can heal us but God. If Jesus died for our sins & we're free from the results, Paul & the rest of us wouldn't be struggling with continuing in them. We're all broken until we die. Sorry people. It's called aging. Grow old gracefully, short leg, long leg, no leg. Actually, if someone has 2 different leg lengths, who are we to say which one is actually shorter when the other can just be longer? It's all perspective. Except Paul's teaching. As we see, it's caused continuing debates on who's right - & it ain't Paul.
Look, Todd White is a great lover of our Lord Jesus. If he says that a leg grew, so be it-that’s his testimony of faith. If he says someone he prayed for got healed, then again, that’s his testimony of faith in Christ. His goal is not to get rich, for goodness' sake, but to simply be obedient to the Word of God! To you critics, what have you done to spread the gospel? If we believe that miracles are for today, then that’s our belief. If you don’t, then don’t-but at least preach the gospel to the lost. If you believe people will get healed, pray with them. If not, just share the Word. Todd White has been doing this even before he was full-time; he’s doing it out of his love for God.
I had the privilege of praying for somebody's left to grow out. Before my eyes God healed somebody. Was most amazing thing to experience. God is amazing
Dr. Brown, you are gracious as ever! Even apologizing for something I did not even find necessary. You are a great example to everyone, not only for your knowledge, but also for this humble side you are showing.
Let's learn from him, folks, and don't be so confronting - even though you may feel you are right.
Call tod out for saying he doesn't sin anymore
From the Line of Fire team: He doesn't say that. Be careful not to bear false witness.
@LFTV I saw the video I personally heard him say it are you saying it's a edited clip going around I wouldn't doubt it with all the hate he get but I will look into it
@@LFTVyou’re bearing false witness. He has said this numerous times. Or either you’re not doing your research and then claiming it as though you know for a fact when you obviously don’t.
Either way… you’re being dishonest. Please correct this.
At one point Todd White said..."there's a time for everyone to be born again" 😳😳😳 Where does he find that in Scripture exactly? Because not everyone will be born again. Also, how can it be that after 20 years of being born again he still uses God's name in vain???
“For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.”
I Timothy 4:10 NKJV
Todd believing for everyone’s salvation doesn’t necessarily say it will absolutely happen(Universalism). Similar to his examples that he believes for every healing, even knowing that not everyone will be healed.
“Deliver me from my enemies, O my God; Defend me from those who rise up against me.”
Psalms 59:1 NKJV
I don’t get the impression that he’s trying to be disrespectful when saying, “OMG”, particularly when people are literally exclaiming to God about a healing they are witnessing from God. Exclaiming in praise and astonishment at our amazing God can clearly be reverent and not in vain when judging the heart.
If you feel strongly about it, I suggest you speak directly to Todd in private about it.
““Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.”
Matthew 18:15-17 NKJV
“Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For each one shall bear his own load.”
Galatians 6:1-5 NKJV
@@KoLecnac
1 Timothy 4:10
"For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe."
It starts off by saying, "we have our hope set on the living God," so this means that ALL people have hope in the living God? Are you panthiest?
Soooo, then you also interpret John 3:16 in the same way then? Because many, many, many believe in Jesus...so does that mean they're all born again? Including all catholics?
20 years after being born again and still uses God's name in vain just like the world does? I find it also alarming that he hardly picks up the Bible while preaching and doesn't do any expository teaching from what I know.
My friend, we should be able to discern rightly if we're in the Spirit, and not try to explain things away.
Just because someone loves Jesus and and teach what they know, does not necessarily mean they've received the Holy Spirit. Not saying if he has or not...I'm just speaking in general and that some things he says and does are very questionable. We need to pray for Todd. ❤️
Cherry picked quotes with no context always sound bad. Find the video where he says that so you can listen to what he said before and after.
He preach that jesus did his miracles as a man, layed down his divinity. He preach that jesus went to hell to be born again. Both horrible heresy. Not fit to preach, doesn't know the gospel. Open your eyes and your ears. 1:03:20 1:03:20
From the Line of Fire team: As Dr. Brown requested, please send us relevant links so they can be addressed. Thanks!
Great work Dr Brown! Thank you for your patient response to all of the antagonists and critics.
Thank you Dr. Brown...
Ipso Facto. ALWAYS. Yahshua heals. He restores. He sets free. He grows legs, pillars of His temple: us! (Yachin and Boaz as pillars in Solomon's temple mean: YHWH Establishes Strength) His Ruach haQ'Dosh in us moves mountains of sickness, sin, despair, hopelessness, penury, unequal legs/balance and horror. HE sets us free - with no charge except to love and obey His Father's Commandments and to love our neighbour as our self. When we obey and heal the sick; raise the dead, cast out demons and cleanse the leper, as He commands, we are doing just That.
The Two Sticks, The Two Houses, The Two Witnesses truly have been coming together as One New Man in these "last days" (2000 years) as we see in the Parable of the Good Samaritan: Joseph and Judah: Together ~ Ezekiel 37:16 and it is marvelous in our eyes!
God uses the basest of men
Ve heee mently
@lineoffire. The Reverend Leroy Jenkins?
Dr. Mike will not get the 20 year old World of Warcraft meme reference.