Donkey Kong Country Game Boy Ports | Punching Weight | SSFF
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- Donkey Kong Country ports. Funky forever, mine carts never.
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Derek: Hey, I'm Derek.
Me: Who's Derek?
Derek: It's me Derek.
Me: Ok, cool.
Its always so jarring, since my name is Derek too lol
I love how in the thumbnail Derek always looks like he's been given the gift from heaven or something lmao
DKC *is* a gift from heaven, so that’s fair
i love dony kong he is my faverite character he is A GRATE APE 🦍 🦍 🦍
The weird, ambitious or unnecessary is always a gift to Papa Derek.
Reminds me of the is this a pidgeon meme
Since he LOVES weird ports, this must be how he feels when playing them.
1:21 these are pretty cool bananas
*Screams of death following afterwards*
Aaaaagggghhhh
Quite a lovely bunch.
The amount of great classic we lost because they weren't correctly saved is quite astounding.
It always saddens me how few (if any) companies understand how important archivists truly are
With how limited and expensive storage was back then, it shouldn’t be of any surprise. Archival media, print aside, is still a relatively new thing.
Rena Lanford funnily the more modern media gets, the shorter it lasts. There are plenty of medieval books in almost perfect shape but CDs wont work anymore in 100 years
@@SuperMistertoast There's still companies that print emails because it's the best way to preserve them.
Technology just move up too fast. Whoever uses floppy disks anymore? We also have far more data than back in the past (a few books, some legal documents)
And the video game industry just makes all of this even harder.
It was more just the mentality of the past, sort of like with how TV show preservation used to be nonexistent (which speaking as a Doctor Who fan I'm painfully aware of).
Back in the day the concept of rereleases, remasters, and ports to later hardware wasn't really a thought people had (at least when it comes to console devs) so preserving source code and such wasn't really in their mind. The thought process was simply that once a game shipped, that was the end of it. Maybe there necessary bug fixes or revisions that would be patched into later copies, but that was again mainly a PC and Arcade thing.
With that said, it's all the more reason I support emulation, hacking, and "piracy". Because that was just the thought process for many companies of the past to no real fault of their own.
You mean what, DKC developement material that was never going to be publicly released, the loss of which ultimately ended up being little more than a mild inconvenience for the developers of the GBA port? Sorry, but I fail to see why anyone should care here.
"Hey, we're the audience, it's us, the audience!"
Uncle Audience
Yup, that was indeed a thing said in the video.
@@DCstar It's been a running goof in the comments since "Hey I'm derek, it's me derek" started. It's not "something that was said in the video."
This comment is a comment in the RUclips comments
@@DCstar way to be a dick lol
"The second level is an ice level. Who does that?"
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze?
Nah it's still tropical
*laughs in crash the wrath of cortex*
Boerka Sainte actually, Arctic Antics was the first level in Wrath of Cortex.
Donkey Kong Land
Now with Funky Mode!!!
@@Hyper_Drud The second level in Crash 2 is an ice level!
zak wojnar I wasn’t talking about Crash 2, I was talking about Wrath of Cortex.
Uncle Derek looks so tired from the move. We love you Uncle Derek, be well
moving sucks
You forgot to mention "Donkey Kong 5: The Journey of Over Time and Space"
Yeah, how could he?
The one where Donkey Kong endeavours to not be a starving monkey and instead eat enough to become a mighty ape capable of rescuing the fair maiden Sodoma?
@@kodybuffettwilson Yeah, that one!
Wut
@@tootsie_ You have not heard of Donkey Kong 5: The Journey of Over Time and Space? What a shame.
9:54 That’s just the rendition from DK Land. This port used quite a bit of music from Land, actually.
11:32 And that wasn’t Tim Stamper who said that. It was a former Rare dev who went under the pseudonym “Stamporz”.
"If you are a dev, save your progress!" Funny thing is the recent Nintendo leaks show Nintendo headquarters in Japan is super meticulous about making sure they keep their old stuff backed up, to the point I think they're probably one of the few big name Japanese companies that does that given there have been stories that companies like Square and Konami lost the source code for some of their biggest titles (Konami infamously lost the source codes for the old Silent Hill games and the poor devs they tasked with the infamous HD Collection had to work with buggy unfinished builds that they had no idea how the original devs fixed many of the issues, and Square admitted to losing the source code for Final Fantasy VIII, which is why the remaster actually rebuilt the game in Unity, and for Kingdom Hearts 1, meaning the HD version of KH1 is actually a recreation rather than a mostly straight port).
Not to mention that Collection of Mana is on Switch largely because while Square had long since lost the source code for Trials of Mana, Nintendo still had it.
@@MerelyAFan Oh neat. Kinda makes me wonder about Super Mario RPG given that game is known to have a bit of a rights issue as while Nintendo obviously retained all rights to their existing Mario characters, Square ended up retaining the rights to the character they created specifically for that game, which is why characters like Geno and Mallow are a case of "ask Square about getting them in Smash, not Nintendo, Nintendo doesn't own them." Did Nintendo retain the source code because it's Mario related, or did Square take it with them during the "late 90s divorce" between the two parties?
@@BloodRedFox2008 The recent leak uncovered an early version of Konami's Castlevania IV, and all sorts of source/beta elements of the SNES Star Fox titles, which were developed more by Argonaut than Nintendo proper. Between that and that SMRPG was fairly popular game, I'd venture to say its likely Nintendo does have it, both for potentially using the assets again and for the off chance of it ever being remade.
The leaks came from China, not Japan. It's quite likely Nintendo has none of those files anymore. And the tapes that were ripped to files (Data was stored on cassette tapes at one point in time) had a lot of read errors according to the logs included therein. We've lost quite a bit. Sure, we have quite a bit more than other companies... But not a lot, and not because of Nintendo- more because of iQue.
Didn't they use a rom from the internet for one of the virtual console releases of super Mario Bros?
"The second level is an ice level. Who does that?"
Yo! Noid did that.
But we've been taught to Avoid the Noid.
And now you know why.
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex had an ice level as it's first level.
So you're telling me that Donkey Kong Land is literally just DK saying "OK boomer, hold my beer"?
Basically
Kinda, but it's still DK playing. And you wind up going inside the computer.
Reading the manual in full... it almost sound like an "F You" to Shigeru when you read it. I get that feeling specifically because Cranky says that DKC only sold well because of the visuals and that if it were compressed onto a handheld nobody would play it, while DK and Diddy say the gameplay was what sold it.
And if you know what Miyamoto allegedly said about DKC during the development hell of Yoshi's Island, that seems a bit more heated than just "haha funny old man".
Yeah, but it does look horrible on an original game boy, everything blends in with each other, the sequels was a little better since the characters did stand out a bit from the backgrounds
“You should only play this Game Boy port of a Super Nintendo game on the Super Game Boy accessory for the Super Nintendo”
Bro
BRO
Hahaha
They’re not ports tho
wait,
Huh, when I was a kid, DKC for Game Boy Color was my first exposure to the series and I managed to beat it. It was lent to me by the older brother of one of my classmates and he was very impressed when I showed him, I had no notion of it being much harder than other versions.
Lol same i beat that game alot as a kid, pokemon blue and DKC kept me busy on car rides and even in my bedroom
I'm playing through it for the first time in RetroArch on my Android phone.
Had Donkey Kong Land when all I had was my OG Game Boy. There really are some cool concepts and level designs not found in the mainline console series. Loved this video!
I don’t think there’s anyone better than you at this. You’re so wholesome, and you play enough unique content that I either missed out on when younger, or just didn’t have my eye on- that you entertain me like nobodies business, my guy! I grew up with all 3 DKCs, my mom is still the champion of them. But I never got the ones for my Gameboys.... I might have to change that!
Breaks my heart to learn that the source material has been lost to time.
I always wanted them port the game to a modern system, without "down sampling" the models to sprites.
I would love to see those models running natively in 3D, at 16x9 in the hightest resolution possible.
I'd like to really get a good look under the hood.
If you'd like to try the Land trilogy, I'd recommend trying them on a GBA or Game Boy Player. The GBA can assess separate color pallets to the background tiles and foreground sprites, helping the characters be less lost in the busy graphics.
I guess the Gameboy Color would look similar to the Super Gameboy... and it is very close to OG hardware.
@@zeitgeist27 For games with custom Super Game Boy pallets programmed in, you are still only going to get 4 colors in any one playfield, though they can change from level to level. On Game Boy Advance, both the background and sprites get their own 4 color pallet, helping the sprites stand out from the background. You will lose custom Super Game Boy enhancements, like pallets selected specifically for each stage, or a separately palleted status bar, but you gain twice the color in the playfield where the game play is. It's certainly a bit of give and take. I wish I had a more clear example to show, but here is DKL played on Game Boy Player. ruclips.net/video/mUv4iSeM43A/видео.html
Also a good note that he was playing on the Gameboy Pocket which has awful motion blur that's not present if you play it on Gameboy Color/Advance
Hey, Derek! It’s me, Ryan! Always happy to see some more Punching Weight on the RUclips scene. I never played the DK games on the GameBoy myself and, seeing the footage, it is definitely impressive what they pulled off with the hardware! Also, congratulations on the big move! Hope the new space works out for you!
Fun fact: the GBA port of Donkey Kong Country 3 featured an entirely original soundtrack composed by David Wise, who wasn't involved in the music for the SNES original. They also added a new world with a few new levels as well.
The GBC port has an exclusive level and effectively 3 hard modes which take away DK and/or checkpoint barrels. I should know, I've beaten it many times. I never had a SNES.
Best way to play the Land series is on the GBA SP or GB Player, which have backlight and color the sprites to make them standout more.
And GBA County 3 got a new soundtrack.
yep, and as a zoomer who grew up with the GBA versions of DKC it was jarring as hell when I played the SNES version of DKC3 on NSO, lol.
Like, it's not "bad", it's just definitely not David Wise. I do like the bonus level theme from the original OST more than the GBA version's though.
It's Eveline Noviac who composed the SNES version@@warbossgegguz679
I felt the need to say "Hey I'm Derek it's me Derek" the other day even though I was alone and my name's not Derek.
What have you done to me?
Honestly one of my favorite intros.
You're Derek to me buddy
I never noticed until now the way Derek's tie in the thumbnail highlights the DK in his name. Beautiful! xD
11:12 you know, THAT'S funny. I remember when Pixar said that SAME thing with when attempting to remaster Toy Story for Blu-Ray. Technology is INDEED a harsh mistress...
Also at 0:49 you said "Advanced" when the title clearly shown "Advance". Not that I'm complaining, I'm just pointing that out there.
Thank you for making me feel like a badass for being good at the GBC port back when. It took a lot of blood sweat and tears as a kid but eventually I got the mine cart parts down and was able to even speed run some levels. I had this and no SNES at the time so I had to adapt in a brutal fashion
I played the crap out of the GBA DKC ports and had a lot of fun with them. Nice job with the video and good luck with the new place.
I like this video a lot. I didn’t miss you swinging your arms around all the time
I've so lost interest in being good at games anymore in my old age... I'm playing the Switch SNES release of DKC and making HEAVY use of the rewind! This looks maddening!
Perfect video topic. I like it. Love your channel and podcast guys!
I never had the original so playing the difficult gbc version definitely makes it so much easier to play the original version now on emulators. That gameboy color port was SO hard! The mine cart crap was insane.
Always great quality when Uncle Derek speaks and Producer Grace edits. Happy moving guys.
I really enjoyed this video! I wasn’t around yet when these games came out, so I’m wanting to try them and see what I missed out on. I’ll definitely be on the look out for these DK games!
5:54 The GBC Donkey Kong Country music has an awesome heavy metal resemblance that I as a metalhead just really enjoy.
Perfect dark game boy color is so much better than it’s given credit for. I loved that game. Completed it several times and the rumble cart wad bad ass
Holy cow, those GBA ports were a childhood staple of mine. I probably played and completed them as often as the SNES originals. The ports of the 1st 2 games also have a time attack mode that can actually be quite challenging. By the way, someone recently put out a color restoration patch for the GBA port of the first game that makes the game visually closer to the SNES original. Patches like that already exist for the Super Mario Advance series, and I hope someone makes ones for 2 and 3. I think I only played the GBC port once through emulation, and it was harder than anticipated.
I... I kinda love that the last 5 videos have had Uncle Derek's same silly "Oooh" Face and I kinda hope they just keep it for a while lol
Excited to watch a new video from you :D Exciting times getting a new office! Keep up the great videos :)
I was so happy the second you made this video public,donkey Kong country is my favorite platformer of all time, it takes everything from super Mario world that I liked, and not only made it look, sound, and play good, but it made for a difficult journey. I love you to the relation of the games, and I'm so happy somebody out there on RUclips is finally getting to these. Seriously, I've been waiting for Johnny to get to a donkey Kong Marathon for like ever.
Check out The Geek Critique's DKC videos, they are great.
@@19Szabolcs91 oh trust me I have, I'm very happy about him, and I've been following him for a while. If anything, he's one of the best reviewers I've ever followed. There's just something about his style of reviewing that I just love. it's the amount of passion in his words, and it's really inspiring.
The Motion Blur in DKLI makes me want to vomit. Now I know how my wife has felt ever since she got pregnant...
It was worse for those of us who still had the original grey brick GB. Green and yellow screen with pixelated ACM? It was a thing of beauty...at the time. My old copy still has my save in World 4, waiting for me to finally pass that one level.
Ghosting
Donkey Kong Land 2 was one of my first video games and will always have a special place in my heart.
You all merely adapted to the minecart levels, I was born in the minecart levels, I didn't see a SNES until I was already a man.
Cranky Kong: “You can’t really make this look good on a game boy”
Gameboy modding community: “Watch me.”
0:57 You know that George Wood loves those!
Derek at 9:38: *Talks about the GBC Aquatic Ambiance*
Me, a professional singer/pianist: *Obviously you've never heard me play it on my piano.*
Well, upload it then! If you’re gonna just talk that talk, back it up!
You gotta love that Donkey Kong Land was essentially the video-game port version of the Shaggy "Are you challenging me?" meme.
For real, Land 3 was amazing. We moved across the country at the end of 1999, I got a GBC for an early holiday gift, Land 3 was one of the few games I had for that week in the moving van. Between this and Pokemon Yellow, I was SET!
Wow, I had such a hard time with Donkey Kong Country on the GBC when I was a kid. This makes me feel so much better!
Oh, man, I had that yellow GameBoy Pocket, with DK Land. My first GB game, I remember sharing it around at school because I couldn't get past the stupid difficult levels. And having to play buried under a blanket on the backseat to see anything at all
The GBC port of DKC was my first GBC game, and my first Donkey Kong game. I love it still.
"Oh, these are pretty cool bananas."
"If you do not get this new generation of Donkey Kong madness, you are stupid! That may be insulting, but it's the truth!"
The GBA Ports adding a freaking Bestiary is a move i'll always hold dear to my heart, every game with creature design should have this!
And another neat little fun fact about DK Land:
The boss theme in that game was later reused in the N64 rare title "Blast Corps" for the Jade Plateau.
I got that DKC GameBoy color port with my GBC. It's so impressive that they got the whole game onto the tiny GameBoy cartridges to this day.
"All other games will have to live up to this one!" That hype was true, for once. Even Mario's platforming had to stand up to the Kong!
I grew up with the GB Color version, and as a result, that one's my favorite.
I own all the DK Land games on Gameboy and 2 is my favourite. The difference between actually being able to see your character in 1 and 2 is quite literally like night and day.
Also I remember the temple world stage music was pretty great, and also I think that was a music track that wasn't in the SNES version (kinda, it's more a music remix than a music port)
I've never heard of the GBC rendation of land 3. Strange that never came to the west. Also wasn't the OST of DKC3 changed for the GBA port due to the system speakers not being able to handle the original? Great video, btw.
I thought it was changed to be more ambiant like 1 and 2 because 3's OST wasnt liked.
A little of both. David Wise did the majority of 1and 2’s soundtracks, but was working on other projects during 3’s development. So he wanted both to do the series justice and make a soundtrack that worked better on the gba, especially as the first games’ soundtracks sound a little off on the gba’s mono channel tiny speaker.
The GBC version of Donkey Kong Land 3 didn't came to the USA cause Nintendo doesn't want to confuse player with the GB version of Donkey Kong Land 3 which was already released. Japanese only got it on GBC so to make up for it being a late release.
@@VOAN then explain links Awakening
I'm one of those weirdos that actually love every single GB Donkey Kong game, really enjoyed the video!
This is where the fun begins!
Donkey Kong Land 3 was my jam as a kid. Played it all the time on long car trips.
What a legendary series. Loved these portable versions.
Donkey Kong Land 2 is really nostalgic for me. I didn't have an SNES as a kid (My parents got me a Genesis), but I got a Game Boy Pocket and DKL2 was my first game on it. I was super happy to get it on 3DS a few years ago.
This makes me want a punching weight retrospective of SNES/genesis to GBA ports in general, and how different developers had different philosophies when it came to porting there works. I'm especially fascinated by how jRPGs were approached.
You look exhausted, dude!
That’s interesting, I played the GBC port of Donkey Kong Country many times when I was a kid, and I thought it did really well. That said, I never owned an SNES until January this year, so I could do a revisiting some time.
I personally feel a bit repelled from the GBA ports as there are too many cartoony sound effects for my personal taste, but all’s well.
Donkey Kong Land. Loved that yellow cart, and I played on a GBC so I never worried about the tearing and contrast issues.
DKC on GBC was one of the first video games I ever owned, so this video resonates with me.
Played right through Donkey Kong Land on the original Game Boy & loved every moment of it.
I started with the GBC Donkey Kong Country game and I remember feeling like it was close enough at the time... I have no idea how I could over look so much.
The Gamebou Advance port is the reasons I grew up with Donkey King Country despite growing up during the Xbox/PS2/GameCube generation. It was my first Gameboy game!
I vividly remember sitting in the backseat of a car, while at a dark grocery store parking lot, playing Donkey Kong Land. I don't even remember who's game it was. I never owned it and that's the only time I remember playing it.
Donkey Kong Country 2 for GBA also had an exclusive boss fight that were originally suppose to be in the Super NES original but was cut from that version due to lack of memory.
One important thing about DKC3 GBA is that soundtrack was redone by David Wise this time. However, I find that soundtrack one of his weakest works, songs have intros that last for minutes, so you only hear them when you're finishing the level or entering a bonus barrel, and the original atmosphere of DKC3 gets lost with those new tracks, because those are not remixes of the original.
I need one of those Clock Tower shirt.
Fr. If you find one lmk
The link is in the description
My biggest issue with the GBA port is the lack of the speedup you get when you roll through an enemy. I really like that mechanic, and I'm sad they didn't include it.
Also as a side note the SNES Version has warps too, just not the warp rooms.
Not a lie, I live this channel. I have my own and I have recorded audio pitching this channel. Keep up the great work! Hope to be a patron once money isn’t so tight. Thank you so much for the content.
No joke, this might actually be my fav youtube channel. Maybe next time you could do DK arcade ports
I had the DKC for GBC and when I was a kid my mom had to beat the mine cart levels for me.
Man, I played the hell out of the Game Boy Color port when I was a kid and loved it so much. It was DKC! One my favourite SNES games, and now I could play it anywhere! I recently went back for a revisit and suffice to say, it did not go well.
Man, I'm gonna miss that corner of the living room. I hope your new apartment ends up being awesome!
A lot of the music from DKC for the GBC was taken directly from the first Donkey Kong Land; most of the new music were actually songs from the original that didn't have remixes on DKL like the boss theme, since that was completely different on DKL, or the factory music since DKL didn't have factory levels.
I used to think GBA DKC was trash, but I never actually played it. Seeing it now I can appreciate it, the FOV isn't zoomed in like if they just strait up ported it. The DKland 2 and DKC 2 ports I've always loved though, they were just damn amazing.
The Virgin Daddy Derek vs. The Chad Uncle Derek
Me and my brother use to play DK Land 3 all the time when we were younger. We didn't have a SNES (and thus no Super Game Boy) so we just played the game on the GBA instead. Lots of fun times were had with that game.
DKC 3 for GBA has a custom David Wise soundtrack, different from SNES.
As well as the game included an exclusive new world in the game and added a new boss in one of the original worlds because of how one of the original bosses was the new world boss
I was so hoping for a George Wood reference every time you brought up Silicon Graphics Computers. Still, fascinating history this series had. I grew up on the GBC DKC1 and forgot how hard it is.
I used to own Donkey Kong Country on the GBC! It was super fun but hard to see. Nice video!
But....you are my favorite channel. You're one of the few I have the bell on for because I like watching your videos as soon as they come out. Keep up the fantastic work and stick it to the RUclips algorithm.
As someone who's so used to the jumping physics of DKC on gameboy SP, seeing the way it works in Land triggered my fight or flight response.
It just doesn't click with my brain, like the uncanny valley.
It LOOKS like my beloved childhood game... But something is just... Off.
My first experience with DKC was the GBC port, no wonder I couldn't beat it as a kid
I had the GBC port of DKC as a kid. Not only was it brutally hard, but it also caused me a lot of thumb pain due to how demanding it was; especially later levels.
I had a simple rule growing up: no new games until you beat the last one or Christmas comes. I got DKC GBC for Christmas '00, my next game was Castlevania CotM & a GBA for Xmas '01. That goddamn minecart level...
5:26 I'm offended that when you talked about most Mega Man GB titles paling in comparison to their console counter parts. You showed Mega Man GB 5 the one that definitely doesn't do that!
Heck, GB4 is great, too.
Mega Man GB4 and GB5 are great, I'd say they are better than 1, 5 and 6 on the NES for example.
GB4 is in my opinion one of the best megamans ever. The story was more flashed out and ballade man alone is awesome . Even the soundtrack rocks.
Agreed. The Game Boy Mega Mans in general don't get their due credit (except MMII, that game is legit not very good). On the surface they may look like mashed up rehashes of the NES games with similar level gimmicks, but the actual level design is different (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that) and if you're a fan who enjoys Mega Man games for the challenge, they can get pretty hard (I and III specifically are among the hardest games in the Classic series, but still fun). But yeah, MMIV is really good and MMV stands alongside the best of the NES games (and the Classic series in general) as far as I'm concerned. Mega Man V is the Mega Man 2 of the Game Boy series.
You can usually tell what kind of Mega Man fan a person is by which games are their favorites. Derek's is 2 and 3 on NES and 2 was his first Mega Man game. Fans that weren't introduced to Mega Man through the NES games tend to not hold them in as high regard as old school fans like him do. And while I love Derek as an internet personality, as a fellow Mega Man fan, at times he comes off as an unpleasable Mega Man fan that thinks any game that doesn't play like NES 2, 3, or X1 is only "not a terrible game" or "fine" at best (hence his gushing over and lack of criticism of MM9 back in his HVGN days and conversely feeling let down by MM10 despite it being a mostly solid game that may have had too much content, a criticism he leveled against it that I do agree with).
These are just minor criticisms from one Mega Man fan to another though. Again, Derek is generally awesome as an internet personality.
That Donkey Kong face on the DKC GBC menu is terrifying.
The GBC port was my first DKC experience. It frustrated me so much that I ended up accidentally hitting my mouth in anger with my GBC and my mom had to take me to the doctor because shit wouldn't stop bleeding. Fun times.
Congrats on the new place! Looking forward to seeing what you do with the office :)
The DKC Color version was the first DKC port I beat as a kid. I had no idea it was actually "harder" until much later.
My parents did not want me to hog the TV so a GameBoy was the only console I was allowed (also rationing batteries was a way for them to limit my screen exposure). That's why the Donkey Kong Land games where for the longest time the only way I interacted with Donkey Kong Country and I am nostalgic for them in a way I am not about the SNES games. I am really hoping Nintendo will publish a GameBoy Mini some day.