Bitcoin Power Law Predicts $1M Bitcoin By 2030?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • The Bitcoin Power Law Says Bitcoin can hit $1M By 2033...
    Today we had the pleasure of interviewing Fred Kreguer to discuss this as well as:
    🔥Whether the Bitcoin power law will break
    🔥How will Bitcoin perform in a recession
    🔥How the Bitcoin multiplier goes when there is no Bitcoin on exchanges
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Комментарии • 72

  • @billpickford1988
    @billpickford1988 5 месяцев назад +16

    All you need is to is buy bitcoin yourself and put it on a cold storage wallet like cold card by yourself

    • @bitcoinnewscom
      @bitcoinnewscom  5 месяцев назад +3

      Couldn't agree more with you Bill, that's very sound advice!

  • @nick-oi1xf
    @nick-oi1xf 5 месяцев назад +12

    The power law is the most realistic and it's math based on actual data. People who are thinking it goes to millions in a year or two are deluding themselves with their emotions.
    If you believe bitcoin will be the foundation for the future financial system, then think 50 years plus. TCP/IP was invented in the 60's.

    • @bbcdsatoshi
      @bbcdsatoshi 5 месяцев назад +1

      Spot on

    • @marcsnow1888
      @marcsnow1888 5 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting view . I need to think more 🤔

    • @arbo3495
      @arbo3495 4 месяца назад +2

      The Power law model is just 4 years behind the s2f. 1 million in 2032

  • @Chris-PBTHOR
    @Chris-PBTHOR 5 месяцев назад +2

    Sounds crazy to think of a sat in terms of money but in my business we charge for prints as low as 1/1000 or .001 of a US dollar and we bill hundreds of millions of dollars

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 5 месяцев назад +4

    20:41. This is where he contradicts himself. An S-curve, definitionally, is NOT a power law. A power law maintains its expression within the scope of its log base. An S-curve changes expression twice. Clearly not the same thing. He also said we are at the knee of the curve, which means we haven't even hit the hockey-stick part of the graph yet. Right in the middle of the first knee of an S-curve adoption, is a space called the "chasm." That's where adoption slows way down, as you run out of early adopters, just before you break into the early "mainstream" part of the adoption curve. Last cycle was clearly running into the chasm, that means the next fifteen years of adoption are going to be more extreme than the first fifteen, as that will be the mainstream adoption phase.

    • @mbrasil4
      @mbrasil4 5 месяцев назад

      Is there a book or article you would recommend that talks about annual adoption growth rates before and after the chasm?
      I think about this all the time. The years after the chasm should have more explosive adoption.

    • @bujin5455
      @bujin5455 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mbrasil4 I'm not sure I do. I've known about this stuff for many years, so I don't have the S-Curve adoption literature I worked through fresh in mind, but I believe Geoffrey Moore popularized the idea of the chasm in his book "Crossing the Chasm." Generally speaking through, there are three phases to an S-Curve: the early adopters, the mainstream, and the laggers. Each phase usually takes about the same time as the other two phases, so if the first phase takes 15 years, so will the second phase, and the third, for a total of 45 years, to complete the adoption process.
      One of the problems with Fred's point of view is that he believes we've been in the "exponential" part of the adoption process for the past 15 years. That would be since the very beginning. That means he thinks we jumped over the early adoption phase altogether, and we went directly to mainstream adoption (the exponential part of the S-Curve). If that's what happened, then this is NOT an S-Curve adoption scenario, and it's unclear when the inflection point would be. Also, you're not entering mainstream adoption until 10-15% of the population has adopted the technology, which clearly isn't the case here. We're maybe just starting to scratch that sort of penetration, by "some" metrics.
      If we assume a 15 year phase segmentation, then this adoption process would be more drawn out than usual, as most recent technology adoption S-Curves have had 10 year phase segmentations. With that being the case, crossing the chasm may take longer as well. Crossing the chasm takes anywhere from a few months to several years (it took several years in the case of cell phones). If we look at last cycle's activity, it's pretty clear we were operating within the chasm for that period. Assuming we're in an S-Curve adoption process, which may or may not actually be the case.
      If we are following an S-Curve adoption process, "we ain't seen nut'n yet!" Because you go from 10-15% adoption to 85-90% adoption in the same period it took to get your first 10-15%. That is where things RAPIDLY evolve.
      Now if we're not following an S-Curve adoption, which may actually be the case, as this isn't "just" a technological migration (like horses to automobiles). Who knows?
      All things considered, I "think" this is probably an S-Curve adoption process, and if that's true, things are going to be EXCITING for the next 15 years.

  • @w924
    @w924 5 месяцев назад +4

    Fred always comes up with stuff that nobody else does..
    Like only 16 million people total in all types of ETFs

  • @bumblebeehive2399
    @bumblebeehive2399 5 месяцев назад +7

    You need to adjust for inflation. 1 million $ in 2033 will be worth less than that.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 2 месяца назад

      no but you have time to learn more

  • @Edgeofdavid
    @Edgeofdavid 2 месяца назад +1

    Time stamp comment guy, where are you?

  • @lolainma3218
    @lolainma3218 Месяц назад +1

    I’m 74 single Mom of 3. I opened a Fidelity FBTC today. I have a son who is low figure Millionaire… and I told him he was really dumb today. He doesn’t want to hear about Bitcoin .. 😂😂😂

  • @johndrake3472
    @johndrake3472 3 месяца назад +1

    Why not just perpetually borrow against your BTC. If Bitcoin grows faster than your debts, best of both worlds.

  • @larslarsheim1741
    @larslarsheim1741 5 месяцев назад +12

    Fred is the man

    • @etfbit
      @etfbit 5 месяцев назад

      he's not the man - he's a shitcoiner

    • @bbcdsatoshi
      @bbcdsatoshi 5 месяцев назад

      Yes!

  • @ofir111222
    @ofir111222 5 месяцев назад +14

    "in 30 years everyone will talk in Sats" - what a bear.

  • @_Pier72
    @_Pier72 5 месяцев назад +2

    The BTC Power Law tops are outliers from the price distribution. In other words price can go very high over the 2 standard deviations without any problem. The real problem is that it will come back to the Power Law bottom very rapidly during the Bear part of the Cycle.

  • @johngammon963
    @johngammon963 5 месяцев назад +5

    Fred says "everybody has a price" to Luke of all people - where BTC is concerned, if anyone does not have a price it's Luke 🤣

    • @bujin5455
      @bujin5455 5 месяцев назад

      @@_outofphase5480 borrowing against it is not a price. A price is where you're giving it up. Borrowing against it does not mean you're giving it up. It means you're leveraging it. That's a different action. There's a difference between using a tool, and you giving up a tool.

  • @hubsistupsi4868
    @hubsistupsi4868 4 месяца назад +1

    hey fred! is printing money out of thin air also a powerlaw?? what happens when nationstates start printing money like crazy to accumulate as much btc as possible as fast as possible?

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 5 месяцев назад +2

    52:04. You're not being fair to British HODL. He didn't say, "don't spend on conferences." He said, "don't spend on conferences, unless you already have one whole coin." I think that's fair. If the cost of the conference is a significant % of your stack, you should stack instead.

  • @aminromero8599
    @aminromero8599 5 месяцев назад +1

    Slow adoption is also the best thing for everyone, including Maximalists. More time to accumulate at discount prices.

  • @gigi_orangepilled
    @gigi_orangepilled 5 месяцев назад +6

    You two are the Bitcoin RUclipsrs I trust the most. I’m very happy to hear a conversation between you both!

  • @oliversulal6076
    @oliversulal6076 5 месяцев назад +1

    Buckle up
    We are going to the moon

  • @HoneyBadger80886
    @HoneyBadger80886 5 месяцев назад +1

    It's a community. And community is local. Bitcoin is central to Circular Economies.

  • @radicalexile
    @radicalexile 5 месяцев назад +4

    I actually believe I’ve reached modeling saturation point. Too many and no one knows.

  • @Chris-PBTHOR
    @Chris-PBTHOR 5 месяцев назад

    Up to the vanguard dialogue. All of my free cash is in vanguard and I have pulled out 20 percent in one month and bought Bitcoin directly. Also have put 5 percent of my Ira in Bitcoin via fidelity. Wake up boomer vanguard or I will move my kids and all my money out

  • @michaelcormier863
    @michaelcormier863 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video, thanks guys

  • @josephshatrowsky
    @josephshatrowsky 5 месяцев назад

    Meh i dont agree with him.

  • @ducatirottie
    @ducatirottie 5 месяцев назад

    yeah sure!!😂😂😂

  • @waihekefish
    @waihekefish 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Fred and Luke, a really wonderful conversation ❤

  • @zacharysullivan4522
    @zacharysullivan4522 5 месяцев назад

    As an interviewer, you should learn to be more firm and insist that you finish your points or questions before allowing the guest to respond. In an entire hour long "conversation" I don't think Fred let you finish your sentence one time. That's on him. But it's also on you to stop him and politely finish your point or inquiry.

    • @manubruyninckx9705
      @manubruyninckx9705 5 месяцев назад +2

      Mute him while you speak 😂
      It annoyed me too

  • @CHICOandtheVAN
    @CHICOandtheVAN 5 месяцев назад

    Holes in my socks and underwear. Spoken like a true van lifer.

  • @donTeo136
    @donTeo136 5 месяцев назад

    I dont know why btc cant continuely go up well beyoun 20 yrs out, as long as they are printing,,
    As long as fiat survives...
    How would we know who the buyers of BlackRock are? Is that public domain?

  • @danbryda3849
    @danbryda3849 5 месяцев назад

    I think a 10x increase in adoption is a “minimum” (hard quotes) 10x increase. That 10x could pump varying degrees of money in. In anmetcalfs law does a 10x jump to a 100x price jump? No idea.

  • @stevevandoom
    @stevevandoom 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great collaboration 🎉🎉

  • @oysterman962
    @oysterman962 5 месяцев назад

    Bitcoin presently used as the primary currency in developing countries. When bitcoin reaches 10 percent adoption in USA the govt will impose laws to restrict and regulate your profiteering. The price will go down as it becomes more popular and regulated. Probably treated same as capital gains on shares.

  • @Lucky_Red_Fish
    @Lucky_Red_Fish 5 месяцев назад

    Fred is selling his power law just like Plan B tried selling his chart, Fred's model is on a 5 year cycle when Bitcoin is a 4 year cycle.
    He will be wrong and he will fade away just like all the other pundits! Fred has just discovered Bitcoin and is here to fix it!

  • @paullever9219
    @paullever9219 5 месяцев назад

    Starting to doubt Fred’s ability to understand bitcoin, he seems to think NFTs and Runes are a smart decision to promote, clogging up the network and driving fees higher! Hmm not to sure…

  • @dancarter5727
    @dancarter5727 5 месяцев назад

    Isn't Vanguard the biggest holder of Microstrategy shares?

  • @w924
    @w924 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great interview🎉

  • @arifbaba5482
    @arifbaba5482 5 месяцев назад

    I know Bro. I know

  • @christopherstewart9874
    @christopherstewart9874 5 месяцев назад

    "What's a fax machine, dad?" "It's what replaced the Qwip machine, son."

    • @HoneyBadger80886
      @HoneyBadger80886 5 месяцев назад

      Whats a Casio watch? It's what replaced the Swiss Watch Industry overnight

  • @bbcdsatoshi
    @bbcdsatoshi 5 месяцев назад

    Lots of good quality information. Learned lots, thanks guys!

    • @bitcoinnewscom
      @bitcoinnewscom  13 дней назад

      Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @danbryda3849
    @danbryda3849 5 месяцев назад

    Very good session, gentlemen!

  • @johngammon963
    @johngammon963 5 месяцев назад

    I side with Luke on this one.

    • @nick-oi1xf
      @nick-oi1xf 5 месяцев назад

      He's wrong. A sound asset takes years to mature, if it didn't it would be a scam meme coin. With bitcoin, you have to look at the long term.

    • @jackcrook4435
      @jackcrook4435 5 месяцев назад

      The difference between the people who disagree with the power law, is they dont have the math background to explain why they think a power law will fail, are just running on a general feeling or cultural sentinement. They also disagree with the powerlaw because they dont understand the underlying math of why its important or just how its working.

  • @davidgarrett7673
    @davidgarrett7673 5 месяцев назад +1

    fred is the best in the space now

  •  5 месяцев назад

    Well 😊 now I know 😜 how a bullish bear sees Bitcoin future... Not bad 🤔👍 all though I don't agree! To start, do to World Countries adoption and it's Governments 🤔🌎 Don't get me started on inflation in America and Great loss of purchasing Power and money 🤑💰🇺🇲🤔💰 printed... You get my starting point 😜🇺🇲 Bitcoin Financial Freedom Baby 🍼🌎👍

  • @Throbbing_Erectionist
    @Throbbing_Erectionist 5 месяцев назад

    I have a 3pm to 3am job.

  • @thisplaceisnuts
    @thisplaceisnuts 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good stuff but waaaaay too long😮 This needs edit to 10 min. (max!)😮😨

    • @Charlie5225
      @Charlie5225 5 месяцев назад

      disagree. i like the long form