The Rak'tika Reveal - Shadowbringers FFXIV

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  • @Iymarra
    @Iymarra Год назад +401

    I am so pleased the guys had the accurate Rak'tika experience. Having your eardrums blown out by a sudden LAHEE is just..iconic.

    • @RabidJohn
      @RabidJohn Год назад +7

      I love forest/jungle background sounds in most games, but La-Hee was just drowning it out, so I turned off BGM. After only a short time, I found myself missing the song!

    • @scotty110
      @scotty110 Год назад +12

      I'm honestly surprised they didn't put one final "La Hee!!" at the end of the video, since that is what you immediately heard after that cutscene with Emet.

    • @UnashamedlyHentai
      @UnashamedlyHentai Год назад +4

      @@RabidJohn same. on and off and on and off it went. if only it didn't start from the beginning _every time._

    • @Mangoekaki
      @Mangoekaki Год назад +6

      When I first got there I couldn't pay attention to the zone introduction voice over because LA-HEE!! 😂

    • @grdja83
      @grdja83 Год назад +2

      Because of the lore nuke I actually ended associating La Hee with it and loving it. And I have music volume quite low.

  • @ChrisMajors
    @ChrisMajors Год назад +183

    Someone once said "The best villains are the heroes of their own story".
    And Natsuko Ishikawa took that personally

    • @98765zach
      @98765zach Год назад +22

      Ishikawa is such a good writer, and it’s… shockingly easy to point to stories or sections in the game and be like “oh Natsuko did this one” and be right.

    • @Crusina
      @Crusina Год назад +1

      @@98765zach I think the people who worked under her are taking on the story for the next expansion?
      I cant wait to see how they use their own takes and what they learned from her!

    • @siyrean
      @siyrean Год назад +10

      @@98765zach Ishikawa is a primal that feeds on our tears.

    • @VorAbaddon
      @VorAbaddon Год назад +4

      @@Crusina Shes been promoted essentially and is overseeing the writing team. The writing has always been broken up somewhat.

  • @hockey1973
    @hockey1973 Год назад +224

    La Hee is inescapable. La Hee is life. Behold the mighty La Hee

    • @taldir5228
      @taldir5228 Год назад +10

      Soken bless La HEE!

    • @kiriuxeosa8716
      @kiriuxeosa8716 Год назад +10

      I was jamming to it the entire time so much so I didn't even realize they were making a joke about it. La Hee is a part of me now I don't refuse its will

    • @brighteyesseven1071
      @brighteyesseven1071 Год назад +2

      @@kiriuxeosa8716 Yes. It took me a bit before I realized I could not hear them talking

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 Год назад +3

      LA SCREE

  • @eollin2097
    @eollin2097 Год назад +73

    Emet's last line, "Wouldn't you wish for the same?" is perfectly delivered. The bravado is gone and you can hear him fighting back the pain and sorrow in his voice. What a powerful moment.

    • @sopranophantomista
      @sopranophantomista Год назад +9

      René Zagger hit Emet-Selch out of the ballpark. My hat's off to him, he's pitch perfect casting.

    • @MissKashira
      @MissKashira Год назад

      Especially since we know the answer is yes. If the human race got turned into some lesser lifeforms and we had to off them all to bring back humanity we'd be reaching for our axe so damn fast it's not funny. It's that moment you realize that from Emet-Selch's perspective he's you and you're the voidsent.

  • @Dewkeeper
    @Dewkeeper Год назад +38

    Oh no, Ranjit doesn't fall just because Thancred shows up, it's also because urianger has mastered the greatest pvp skill of all time... Rescue

  • @ToxisFaux
    @ToxisFaux Год назад +98

    So fun fact, there I was caffinated beyond reason as I was dozing off from expac launch. before entering ratika
    The LA HEE woke me up.
    Finding out LA HEE literally means WAKE UP. when I learned that I got a cackle thinking back to that moment of entering that zone.

  • @neotailz
    @neotailz Год назад +176

    I think one underrated moment in the Emet Selch history lesson is when he says "finally, you ask the right question." Same thing Varis said to the Eorzean Alliance when they questioned the Empire's motives at the meeting. Like grandsire, like grandson.

    • @Deuzen_FIN
      @Deuzen_FIN Год назад +11

      I believe they acknowledged the similarity during the livestream.

    • @ericbright1742
      @ericbright1742 Год назад +9

      Ayy?

    • @neotailz
      @neotailz Год назад +1

      @@Deuzen_FIN Can't find it in the MSQ stream. They talk about Varis' plan for rejoining, but I'm just speaking to the one line, unless it's in the following stream?

    • @esckay4fun231
      @esckay4fun231 Год назад +2

      Coz both written by the legend, Natsuko Ishikawa.

  • @JenDeyan
    @JenDeyan Год назад +36

    Because Thancred is such a man of action, people forget that he's a Sharlayan Archon who studied under Louisoix. He's not on the level of Y'shtola and Urianger, but he has some book learnin'. He had to do a thesis and whatnot to get those tattoos. He is fully capable of understanding and spouting some dense lore.

    • @TheIvoryDingo
      @TheIvoryDingo Год назад +21

      Thancred essentially got a PHD in stealth.

    • @belld.s5276
      @belld.s5276 Год назад +5

      He even learned the faerie language. Dude has book smarts for sure.

    • @ericbright1742
      @ericbright1742 Год назад +2

      I like to imagine that his thesis was delivered directly into his professor's personal safe, and he passed because nobody could figure out how or when he put it in there.

  • @ericbright1742
    @ericbright1742 Год назад +215

    The whole disconnect between Kyle and Val's feelings, when Y'shtola took a dive, is solely down to that thing that Garrett touched on: You the Player can observe the way the Narrativium field is moving, while You the Character can not. The Player knows there would be _no conceivable way_ Y'shtola would go out like that. The Character, however, is still reeling from the fact that another very good friend just sacrificed themselves in front of them. The Character is probably reliving the pain of the Bloody Banquet and Haurchefant. Those flashbacks in-game are the Character running that scene through their head over and over and over, trying to see if there was something they could have done to stop it, trying to find some way they could have saved her, or still can... and that's when the gust of wind triggers the memory, and you are able to find the solution.

    • @renegademercury443
      @renegademercury443 Год назад +7

      You may have a like for making me smile w the mention of Narritivium

    • @Keira_Blackstone
      @Keira_Blackstone Год назад +7

      understandable, though honestly, both my in-game and out-of-game reaction was 'she probably used flow again'. the way she saved herself was something that she already established she could do. And my WoL didn't think she'd do something that reckless without some sort of idea of how to get out of it- even if that way was equally reckless.

    • @fredy2041
      @fredy2041 Год назад +3

      Yup, so many, many players just thought "another pointless Yshtola dead". It was nothing but pointless, the hole scene was made on porpouse. You were never ment to think Yshtola, never

  • @KLGChaos
    @KLGChaos Год назад +89

    We all know Y'shtola is upset because he summoned her naked.
    Also, my favorite part about that scene with Emet is that he turns away and won't look at you as he talks about his home and people. I always felt it was him trying to hide a moment of weakness.

    • @Mechanikatt
      @Mechanikatt Год назад +29

      Which, when you know the full story, has even more layers.

    • @GearheadPrime
      @GearheadPrime Год назад

      @@Mechanikatt For in his effort to save the world, did a man who loved too deeply murder himself.

  • @FranWest.
    @FranWest. Год назад +94

    9:00 - Yes souls are colored and if you do the alchemy job quests you will find out what color your souls is!

    • @SapphireDragon357
      @SapphireDragon357 Год назад +35

      Alchemy job quests, brought to you by our Holy Lady of Story Ishikawa. So good.

    • @ms.mittenz
      @ms.mittenz Год назад +7

      @@SapphireDragon357 damn... so now I HAVE to do it... well I was avoiding DoH/DoL stuff.. lvl 40 or more in most though. When does Ishikawas story start? :)

    • @SapphireDragon357
      @SapphireDragon357 Год назад +3

      @@ms.mittenz Ishikawa's part of the alchemy story is 1-50.

    • @ms.mittenz
      @ms.mittenz Год назад +1

      @@SapphireDragon357 new game+ it is then :) thanks

    • @tibowmew
      @tibowmew Год назад +1

      I just got to that part in the quest as it's the last crafter besides culinarian that I'm leveling. Now I know things!

  • @LukeGarou
    @LukeGarou Год назад +23

    Reminder that the devs thought that particularly bomb drop was insignificant enough to warrant it making it into the launch trailer for the expansion. Just...let that sink in.

  • @iMazaky
    @iMazaky Год назад +14

    So two things:
    La Hee is a ancient word of power, which a Qitari in the Rak'tika Greatwood explain to you that means "wake up" in the Ronkan tongue, but can also be used as a greeting, in a interesting piece of lore it is said that those favored by the gods can even hear the voice of the ancients, carried on the wind as they travel through the Greatwood, which means the La Hee that you listen is literally ancients talking to you, meaning that not only you but your character is listening to this music/voice.
    Second thing, please watch Soken performing La Hee in the last Digital FanFest (because of COVID) if you guys didn't watch yet, was right after he composed the soundtrack of Shadowbringers and Endwalker, while fighting cancer, and he beat it, so it's like a moment of "releasing his demon" in the funniest way possible. There is other meme performances and "real" performances on the digital fan fest which you guys can watch too, even with the Dev team dancing and singing many iconics songs of the game, even Yoshi-P sings Under the Weight with The Primals.

    • @iMazaky
      @iMazaky Год назад +6

      Oh yeah, and he performed in front of Keiko Matsui, a world-renowned pianist with 30 years of career invited for the event, her reactions are priceless.

    • @Kekira
      @Kekira Год назад +5

      @@iMazaky She makes it that much better

  • @Rico-butHandleWasTaken
    @Rico-butHandleWasTaken Год назад +53

    Maybe you don't remember it, but the world being split by Hydaelyn was explained back in the Antitower by Minfilia.
    But at that point the player has so little context to work with that it generally goes above everyone's heads.

    • @ziongamer6905
      @ziongamer6905 Год назад +5

      I remember when I saw that cutscene months ago and spent HOURS ranting to my friend my theories on what it could mean.
      I even tried to count the shards in the cutscene to see if those made 13, god it was a fun time.

    • @clericneokun
      @clericneokun Год назад

      @@ziongamer6905 Do they actually count to thirteen? I tried before but the scenes that showed the crystal often cut away before I could make a good head count. Not to mention some of those shards also look awfully tiny compared to the others.

    • @ziongamer6905
      @ziongamer6905 Год назад +3

      @@clericneokun If I counted correctly, yes, the bigger ones actually do go to 13 lol
      But it’s also hard to be 100% certain since they float and Bob so I very well could have just tricked myself 😂

  • @JordanKennedy
    @JordanKennedy Год назад +49

    21:23 to be fair, Thancred is an Archon too, so he (to use the college analogy) took the same gen Ed courses as Y'shtola and Urianger even though he majored in espionage.

    • @Outlaew
      @Outlaew Год назад +9

      Not even majored. Archons are experts who have advanced their chosen fields. The foremost experts, if you will.
      Or in terms we understand, they all have PhDs.

    • @JordanKennedy
      @JordanKennedy Год назад +2

      @@Outlaew I know. I was making a simple analogy for the sake of explanation.

    • @ChainedFei
      @ChainedFei Год назад +1

      Thancred was probably banging the student aide.

    • @joshuayung5158
      @joshuayung5158 Год назад +15

      I feel ripped off. My university didn't offer an espionage major.

    • @forestsavior
      @forestsavior Год назад +10

      One of the neatest things about the Scions as a Heroic Band is that they're all massive nerds. Like a Justice League of nothing but PhDs. After Yda left the "dumbest" one among them in ShB is Thancred and that's only cause his PhD is in a different discipline (spycraft/espionage). He has basically a Master's in aetherology compared to the rest of the Scions' doctorates. (Tataru, of course, has an MBA.)
      And even Lyse-as-Yda wasn't as spacy as she RP'ed Yda to be. Really rare to see a band of action-fantasy protagonists that is literally NOTHING but nerds (until Endwalker, anyway).

  • @Scarabswarm
    @Scarabswarm Год назад +46

    As much as my heart is begging you guys to just plow through the MSQ, I can't overstate how much joy I get out of these analysis videos. They are fantastic, insightful, funny, and relatable. I look forward to them as much as, if not more, than your MSQ streams. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, and share your experiences in such a thorough way.

    • @Maria_Erias
      @Maria_Erias Год назад +4

      I've loved watching them break down every step of their journey, as well as watching them on stream. I saw Zepla's reactions as she was going through it at the time, and I've seen Preach, Pyromancer, and Jesse Cox all go through it, and have watched Preach and Jesse's follow-up videos about the relevant plot points. But watching the boys' here have their discussions after every chapter is fantastic. It's like what my friends and I do after every new chapter of the MSQ, and I love it.

    • @TurinTurambar200
      @TurinTurambar200 Год назад +3

      I just wish they'd pick a better spot for a break at times. Maybe have a trusted mod that's played the game let them know. Stopping in the middle of "When it Rains" for 2 weeks kind of numbs the emotional impact of the second half.

    • @Ankfank
      @Ankfank Год назад +1

      @@TurinTurambar200 They do have a curator that tells them different possible stopping points and what possible chat reactions to them are going to be. I think the curator just dropped the ball with the latest one.

  • @jacobkern2060
    @jacobkern2060 Год назад +2

    20:51 He didn't fall, Urianger used Rescue to pull him into the pit. Thus confirming that Urianger is that kind of healer

  • @ShakeyMac18
    @ShakeyMac18 Год назад +8

    One little touch that I love about the Ravel is the Secret of Mana cover art reference that you glimpse if you're the first person out of the cave following the second boss. You'll see a flock of pink birds flying from one side of the jungle to the other with the giant tree as a backdrop and it's a wonderful little nod to a great SNES game.

  • @shizzlebizzfizz
    @shizzlebizzfizz Год назад +50

    Looooove this, this part of the MSQ really got me super invested. I was already into it prior to this but after this part of the game I was glued to every piece of dialogue from then on. Also I wish they mentioned the cut scene bit after when they defeat the light warden there was this really nice character moment between Yshtola and Urianger and how she wanted him to describe the night sky to her and did so very beautifully in only the way Urianger can which lead to Yshtola giving him a little love tap on his ass after. It's such a nice little piece of character interaction that I very much enjoyed a lot.

  • @FF-tp7qs
    @FF-tp7qs Год назад +25

    A modern version of Rashomon would be Hoodwinked, where you first see the end part of the classical Little Red Riding Hood fairy tale, followed by each of the characters recollection of how they ended up there as they get interrogated by a detective frog voiced by John Cleese

  • @tomojorgensen
    @tomojorgensen Год назад +17

    Love the La Hee drowning out everything! 😆

  • @crossembers
    @crossembers Год назад +28

    I remember my reaction to that truth bomb being "cool, sympathetic motive. Still murder, though." Considering how many people die whenever a calamity happens to the source -- and what happens to the people living on the affected shards, as well. Regardless, they do a really, really good job here of making us feel for the villains.

    • @TheIvoryDingo
      @TheIvoryDingo Год назад +16

      FF14 has a lot of "cool motive; still murder" villains.

    • @Maria_Erias
      @Maria_Erias Год назад +13

      @@TheIvoryDingo Which could very well describe us, too. How many innocent beast tribe members did we plow through going after the crazy tempered ones? How many Domans died when we flooded Doma Castle during the attempt to retake it? There's been plenty of moments like these where we've killed people just for getting in the way of us doing what we believe is right.

    • @DictatorAtWill
      @DictatorAtWill Год назад +6

      Moral relativism, and all that.

    • @UmatsuObossa
      @UmatsuObossa Год назад +5

      He doesn't see it as murder, he sees it as putting your pieces back together.

    • @jamesrobinson9855
      @jamesrobinson9855 Год назад +6

      @@Maria_Erias Isn't the plot of copperbell mines that we're putting down a slave uprising?

  • @Sephalia
    @Sephalia Год назад +40

    Great discussion on one of the highlights of ShB. I agree that this part is where Emet-Selch became one of, if not my #1, favorite character because he just gets so interesting and relatable in this zone. You mentioned people were unhappy he snapped Y'shtola's clothes back (hah) but that's the moment that actually sold me on him. He just did this crazy powerful thing with a snap of his fingers, and then he adds that little cherry on top of being respectful and putting everything back into place neatly. It's a great little touch that doesn't get recognized enough.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 Год назад +7

      Yeah, disappointing but it fits and demonstrates the incredible power and skill of the Ancient Mage

    • @shadith2380
      @shadith2380 Год назад +8

      It's the respect that does it for me. Adversary or not, he respects her, and by extension, us.

    • @ChainedFei
      @ChainedFei Год назад +4

      He knows what its like to have things torn asunder and displaced from how they are... so he returns her to you, just as she was.

    • @corvidaegudmund1186
      @corvidaegudmund1186 Год назад +1

      Yep. To me, this was a glimpse of what’s left of the real Emet under all the *spoilers*. For all his snark and insistence that we are nothing to him…..what he does he does *well*, and still has a few standards left.

  • @TarossBlackburn
    @TarossBlackburn Год назад +5

    Now if you feel that Emet-Selch is a theater drama kid, remember that is was Emperor Solus who gifted the Prima Vista to the troupe.

  • @GENOSANDIEGO
    @GENOSANDIEGO Год назад +9

    21:20 Thancred may have already lost the ability to control aether, but he's still an archon (scholar), so his aether knowledge is still there.

  • @arathain2
    @arathain2 Год назад +4

    Opening made me crease up on the subway. Thanks!
    Jesse Cox eating well this morning with this nutritiously wild speculation.

  • @jessecox
    @jessecox Год назад +2

    doyouknow...... LA HEE?

  • @okonic
    @okonic Год назад +8

    I had no idea you guys liked the Dresden Files and I am now even more invested in your channel.

  • @Lordoftheapes79
    @Lordoftheapes79 Год назад +13

    Emmett is the definition of an Antagonist that isn't necessarily a villain.

  • @Steve-YT383
    @Steve-YT383 Год назад +11

    "Through prayer and sacrifice the will of the star was made manifest"
    Words of Power

  • @sinom
    @sinom Год назад +53

    Btw. Every time emet is there as an NPC you can talk to him and ask him a bunch on different questions

    • @ziongamer6905
      @ziongamer6905 Год назад +6

      God I LOVED talking to him as I went through. Made me enjoy him soooo much more.

    • @Reinshark
      @Reinshark Год назад +9

      Chat were informing (and reminding) them of this during their streamed playthrough.

    • @Nikzzza
      @Nikzzza Год назад +6

      @@Reinshark Good chat

    • @DreadKyller
      @DreadKyller Год назад +2

      Chat was very insistent that they talk to Emet at every possible chance, they've forgotten a few times but chat quickly told them to go back.

    • @darkedge221
      @darkedge221 Год назад +2

      @@DreadKyller And they immediately come back to Emet no matter how far they are already lmao

  • @mismismism
    @mismismism Год назад +3

    The way the story takes off from the point you get this lore bomb is insane, the way they basically set everything up where you get these specific answers that make everything fall into place is wild.

  • @SRG_Works
    @SRG_Works Год назад +9

    I love the predictions bit of these videos. AAAAH. IT'S SO EXCITING! KEEP GOING, BOYS! I love it.

    • @Amovetv
      @Amovetv  Год назад +2

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @cparle87
    @cparle87 Год назад +13

    This is so fitting. I was having a chat with my FC leader just a minute ago, and had to excuse myself momentarily to go to another zone. When he asked why I said I couldn't think straight, all that was in my brain was lahee. And then this pops up in my notifications.

    • @ChainedFei
      @ChainedFei Год назад +1

      Hahahaha..... You see? The La Hee can't be denied! Let it take over, RIIIIISE UP AND DESTROY!

  • @Captain_Confused
    @Captain_Confused Год назад +5

    Well fuck me, I thought I might flick through and see what y'all thought but the breakdown you did of the story was brilliant to watch. Keen to see you play through the rest of Shadowbringers, and extremely keen for the platythrough of next expansion.

  • @Mnkeys
    @Mnkeys Год назад +7

    "The only difference between a cult and religion is tax exemption" ahhhhh I knew i loved this channel:)

  • @itr_cloud
    @itr_cloud Год назад +9

    How do these guys not get more likes?! I can't wait to see them finish ShB and EW!

    • @Amovetv
      @Amovetv  Год назад +5

      I'm here to like your Integra Type R avatar (but also thanks for the love).

  • @chaossquall
    @chaossquall Год назад +4

    I really LOVE "Civilizations" (the name of the La Hee track), but I do understand that odd tonal shift. That opener was great, btw!

  • @taldir5228
    @taldir5228 Год назад +20

    I love post qitana Ravel cutscene. The voice acting there is incredibly good. The strong emotions can be clearly heard in voices of Emet and Y'shtola

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 Год назад +4

    Rashomon is a legendary film. Even today, it stands up very well.
    Anyhow now we are getting into it. 😃

  • @chrisdiekrasse4420
    @chrisdiekrasse4420 Год назад +10

    I am blown away by the editing...I can´t stress it enough: YOUR CONTENT (with everyone involved) IS EXTRA-SPECIAL...I love it so much...I wish...I wish I could spare some money to support your bro-mance. All I can do is hit that like button time over time. Even the live-content...I follow you long enough to be hooked till I don´t know when. Much love to both of you AND your team💕💕

  • @mdoule
    @mdoule Год назад +5

    Thancred is an Archon specialized in infiltration, recon and sabotage. Which mean he will have basic education in aetherology, if for only to know what to look for and qualify events. So yeah, it's not his main thing, but he gets the idea.
    It's same as we have basic understanding of astronomy - stars, planets, gravity - but that doesn't mean we all are astronomers :)

  • @ZekeRaiden
    @ZekeRaiden Год назад +2

    I absolutely loved the "EMERGENCY"/siren overlay. That was delightful. Whole video is as usual great stuff. Absolutely looking forward to your next stream and all the rest. You've gotten to one of the great parts of Shadowbringers, and several more amazing moments await.
    And I completely agree about Emet-Selch. He's incredibly, almost painfully human here--he is single-handedly humanizing his whole group in that scene. It's tragic, but also beautiful.

  • @Howlflame
    @Howlflame Год назад +7

    You guys are going through the EXACT SAME THING we all did when it came to that cutscene after Qitana Ravel! And I sometimes forget (somehow) how much Emet-Selch's VA knocks it out of the park with his performance.
    ALSO! You should look up Soken's live performance of La Hee from the 2020 FanFest.

  • @danielisbell
    @danielisbell Год назад +7

    I love watching your hypotheses as to what may be going on. You're always shockingly accurate with some parts and totally miss the mark on others. It's just so fun to watch.
    The Qitana Ravel is one of the best dungeons in the game. The music there is also great.
    Also, huge fan of La Hee. Hope to see you react to Soken's live performance of it, assuming you haven't already (I'll check your videos just in case I missed it).

    • @danielisbell
      @danielisbell Год назад

      Also, forgot to mention, part of what makes Emet such a wonderful villain is that he's not truly evil, though he's lacking in empathy. He has a relatable goal, even if his means of achieving it are horrific.

    • @SapphireDragon357
      @SapphireDragon357 Год назад +2

      @@danielisbell At the end of the first stream where they entered Rak'tika, they did make time for "Do You Know.. LaHEE"

  • @lethargicwizard
    @lethargicwizard Год назад +5

    I don't think it's ever explained but the reason Y'shtola was in the Lifestream is because she may have used the same trick that got everyone out of trouble at the end of ARR. The flash of white light that comes out of the pit after she falls is a little subtle hint of that. Emet just repeats the same trick The Elder Seedseer did to bring her back again.

  • @deice3
    @deice3 Год назад +1

    20:50 I had forgotten about Urianger Rescuing Ranjitt off a cliff, lmao

  • @greywitchleila
    @greywitchleila Год назад +16

    It was explained a bit earlier during the Gaius return cutscene but the three main Ascians, Elidibus, Lahabrea and Emet-Selch are unsundered. The other Ascians were sundered and aren’t as powerful as those three. That’s why they’re called the Paragons of the Source.

    • @nahuel3433
      @nahuel3433 Год назад +1

      This has in fact NOT been explained. In fact, the sheer fact that the Ascians are ancients or connected to them at all is revealed in the same cutscene Emet says Zodiark and Hydaelyn are primals.
      Gaius just says that the red masks stand above the black masks and that within the red masks there is a heirarchy.
      "Those set adrift with the shards clearly stand below those still joined to the source"
      Spoilers
      Since, again Emet's reveal that the Ascians have to do with ancients comes later, we don't know what an unsudered is. Other than Varis' vague speculations which seem to imply that unsundered people no longer exist.

    • @greywitchleila
      @greywitchleila Год назад +1

      @@nahuel3433 I didn’t say that it was revealed that they were ancients but the wording ‘those set adrift among the shards’ implies that the non-Paragon Ascians are sundered.

  • @wisha4884
    @wisha4884 Год назад +4

    I love hearing your thoughts about this game! Literally you can talk about any part of the game and it'll be a good time. :) Glad you're enjoying shadowbringers!

  • @MondkindVonFlauschen
    @MondkindVonFlauschen Год назад +2

    It's so unbelievably nice to see you spin theories like all of us did, when this dropped,
    It's so interesting to see how close certain Theories can get to the truth.
    Emet Selch and his Legacy are sprinkled all throughout this expansion and with every step you get closer to the truth!
    Thank you!

  • @Stickarms99
    @Stickarms99 Год назад +1

    I just want to say that I'm SO excited you guys have gotten to this point. This is one of the biggest lore bombs in the entire MSQ, completely turns everything you thought about everything happening inside out, and this plotline is why Shadowbringers is considered one of the best video game stories ever written.
    This is where you start seeing Emet-Selch as a sympathetic antagonist, where the Ascians become much more than an evil mustache-twirling death cult. Where you no longer know what to believe about Hydaelyn and Zodiark, where the baddies start becoming heroes and your perception of your patron shifts and skews from what you initially thought.
    Gods, you guys are in for such a wild ride, and I cannot WAIT to see your reactions to the end of Shadowbringers. Genuinely one of the best video game endings EVER and will 100% make you both cry.
    Have fun and enjoy the story!! Remember that the star still has secrets to tell ;)

  • @TheFrantic5
    @TheFrantic5 Год назад +3

    And Emet walks away with a flippant wave of his hand. Perfect note to end a video on.

  • @proy3
    @proy3 Год назад +29

    Now that you've heard La Hee, you need to watch Soken play the song at Fan Fest. It's legendary.

    • @aetherwind3884
      @aetherwind3884 Год назад +15

      They already did.

    • @ericbright1742
      @ericbright1742 Год назад +4

      They do know... La Hee.

    • @Vulgarth1
      @Vulgarth1 Год назад +1

      @@aetherwind3884 Which video?

    • @Pek26
      @Pek26 Год назад +2

      @@Vulgarth1 end of raktika stream

    • @Vulgarth1
      @Vulgarth1 Год назад

      @@Pek26 Sweet, thanks.

  • @tehzerp
    @tehzerp Год назад +5

    Watching this and hearing their thoughts on what Emet said makes me very excited to see them experience what's coming.

  • @stevenbasarowich3429
    @stevenbasarowich3429 Год назад +4

    Due to his many antics it is very easy to forget Thancred is a Sharlayan scholar who has achieved the status of Archon.

    • @ChainedFei
      @ChainedFei Год назад

      How much of what he knows comes from the ramblings of the Student Aides he must've been bedding back in college, and he just sort of osmosed it post coitus? :D

  • @Rakka5
    @Rakka5 Год назад +15

    Kyle you are the only person in existence who has mentioned his love for Black&White and I cannot love you more for it. Probably the most underrated game of all time.

    • @mechamaya
      @mechamaya Год назад +2

      Oh yeah I loved black and white! That game was so jank but so charming too.

    • @seekittycat
      @seekittycat Год назад

      Fellow people of culture ❤️

  • @tenebraequeene
    @tenebraequeene Год назад +13

    LA HEE! Now that that's outta my system, I was waiting for this video! And it did not disappoint! I love your thoughts on the characters and the plot, it's very insightful! You guys question things and theorize which is a VERY good attitude to have with this game! I can't wait to continue seeing your journey through FFXIV! And beyond of course! I'll definitely stick around! Happy Wednesday, my dudes!

  • @willanrac
    @willanrac Год назад +3

    @9:24 to be honest on my first play through i wasnt catching on to shit. I was just really happy i could answer with a 'kupo?'

  • @reyennarhel2505
    @reyennarhel2505 Год назад +3

    Loved the intro to this video lol.
    Also just love the video in general (as always). Been with you since the start and it's always a pleasure seeing your reactions and predictions!

  • @krillolovecheezcake
    @krillolovecheezcake Год назад +1

    LAHEE!
    Love seeing y'all have all the questions and theories. It's like playing msq all over again!
    Love the bromance!

  • @lsschwartz
    @lsschwartz Год назад +2

    Fantastic video today guys!! Love all the insights! I played through the MSQ so fast when I joined this MMO I’m enjoying the analysis!

  • @ensamvarg8504
    @ensamvarg8504 Год назад +2

    OH MY GOD YOU HAVE COME TO THIS POINT AND I CAN FINALLY HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE IN MIND I WAITED SO LONG AHHHHJ

  • @Rc3651
    @Rc3651 Год назад +3

    Honestly I was just jamming out to La Hee at the beginning haha. I think the transition from the night to day theme can be kind of jarring sometimes but I LOVE that song. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys finish 5.0!

  • @MonosEx
    @MonosEx Год назад +17

    3:40 its kind of obvious Yshtola was mad at the Exarch for sumoning her naked, yet again. That's why she just burst laughing when it happens a third time during Rat'itka forest questline

    • @ShermTank7272
      @ShermTank7272 Год назад

      I never quite picked up on the reason

    • @HaddaClu
      @HaddaClu Год назад +4

      You think Shtola was mad? What about an Alisae who was hopped up on adrenaline from being yoinked in the middle of a battlefield and is already a loose trigger? I'm surprised Exarch isnt wheelchair bound 🤣

    • @Deuzen_FIN
      @Deuzen_FIN Год назад +6

      She mentions in the Night's Blessed's home that she grew tired of the secretive nature of the Exarch, which echoes her frustrations with Urianger and his alleged secrets.

    • @laerwen
      @laerwen Год назад +1

      @@HaddaClu This. I imagine her swinging at him, big time D:

  • @AoiKaze2000
    @AoiKaze2000 Год назад +1

    La Hee made the Raktika Greatwood entrance scene one of the most memorable zone entrances in FFXIV for me.

  • @dailyrip
    @dailyrip Год назад +9

    La Hee is the sweetest ambrosia and should be treated as such.

  • @meteorwalkergg
    @meteorwalkergg Год назад +1

    How long have I waited... for this moment

  • @kendric99
    @kendric99 Год назад +3

    Damn. Probably the best video intro yet. Well done! Literal LOL.

  • @ziongamer6905
    @ziongamer6905 Год назад +12

    I’m a little surprised they didn’t mention Urianger using rescue on Ranjit. That part had me very hyped.
    Oh on the topic of Thancred, I think it helps to remember that he’s still an archon. So he’s going to have SOME knowledge though I understand why it’s strange to you when he also says “This isn’t my thing.”
    I remember Y’shtola using her before teleport before and immediately I was like “Yeah no she’s fine.” I didn’t understand why my friend was expecting me to be upset there 😅
    It was a good scene though.
    On first meet with Emet I’ve been convinced he’s been not that bad? That’s bc of his comments after every cutscene if you speak with him. He’s like a grandpa that has stories he wants to tell but no one has been willing to listen till us? Then the Y’shtola thing happened and it convinced me- he sees something in us as mortals he never saw before. Not to mention how he reacted to the mural
    I remember thinking that Hydaelyn was a primal back in ARR when Ifrit was tweaking over you not getting tempered. People claim it’s a blessing of light but I always got stuck on Ifrit because if anyone would KNOW how their powers worked despite being full of themselves- it’d be a primal.

    • @linkblade0
      @linkblade0 Год назад +3

      Reply has spoilers for later in Shadowbringers.....
      Emet, I think, was trying to judge the worthiness of the Scions to learn the truth of the world. Remember that most Ascians are, in fact, sundered individuals who, due to their skills, are told the truth of the world and recruited. The Scions have, as a small organization, done more to hamper the rejoining than any other faction has in history. Even excluding the PC..
      Beyond that, Emet is bored and depressed. How many eons has he basically stood alone in the world? Lahabrea was basically a mindless fanatic who was so focused on restoring Zodiark that Emet couldn'treally relate to him. And Elidibus had no true memory of the past.
      He stood alone, and in his mind, the quest we've embarked on is pointless. The first will fall regardless, so why not amuse himself by observing their greatest foe willingly kill themselves. And possibly see if they could get some real talent in the Ascian ranks.
      Plus, to a degree, he respected us. Our skills, our resolve, our accomplishments. We've accomplished so much while sundered it probably made him feel nostalgic, wondering what we could have done if whole.

    • @ChainedFei
      @ChainedFei Год назад +2

      The rescue into pit is cannon.

    • @ChainedFei
      @ChainedFei Год назад +2

      @@linkblade0 Considering information discovered later, and from the shadowbringers fiction on the website, Emet could see the color of our soul, same as he saw Yshtola's. That probably had something to do with it.

    • @ziongamer6905
      @ziongamer6905 Год назад +1

      @@linkblade0 I think you’re absolutely correct.
      I always felt like he wanted to see how worthy we were, hence his reaction later on after Vauthry. But even then I don’t think he TRULY meant anything he said. I think he was disappointed but still thought we had something in us, WoL and Scions included. It’s also why I felt he enjoyed talking to us so much about things, after every cutscene that we can chat with him, he’s so willing to just yap away then pretend he doesn’t care. I believe that like you said, he was just happy to have another person he could talk to. And seeing our soul possibly he thought to recruit us? Or at least get us to better understand why the Ascians do what they did.

    • @ziongamer6905
      @ziongamer6905 Год назад +2

      @@ChainedFei This too
      Im certain he saw who we were and decided that he wanted to see things play about. It makes sense too, the other two unsundered were either too bloodthirsty or just lacking in knowledge to recognize us unlike Emet. He probably saw our soul and felt giddy like our old new friend had.

  • @eFeXuy
    @eFeXuy Год назад +4

    Every triangle is a love triangle when you love triangles.
    32:00 HYDAELYN KICKU!

  • @vermillionwing
    @vermillionwing Год назад +3

    Y'shtola dying is in competition with the WoL being drugged or poisoned by free food as the most repeatedly occurring event.
    Also obligatory SCREEE

  • @PsychoticMuffinz
    @PsychoticMuffinz Год назад

    I'm so glad you guys got to this point and i wish I could've been there for the stream! This was one of my favorite moments of ShB and was a theory i had since 2.5 and seeing my theory possibly talked about in this scene made me so happy

  • @a365andromeda
    @a365andromeda Год назад +3

    To explain why Thancred sounds smart talking about aether, he, like the other Scions are Archons. Think of Archons as getting a PhD, Thancred's major was different than Urianger, but you are surrounded by a group that are all doctorates.

  • @gysahlfields7506
    @gysahlfields7506 Год назад +2

    Hahahaha, I CANNOT wait to see you react to what actually is going on in SHADOWBRINGERS and ENDWALKER!!
    It will be FABULOUS!!

  • @XenosFFBE
    @XenosFFBE Год назад +1

    Loved this video so much. Thank you guys!

  • @MichaelJ_Journey
    @MichaelJ_Journey Год назад +4

    The “HEE” at the start of the vid killed me 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @dddruwu
    @dddruwu Год назад +1

    I'm excited for you guys to progress through the msq!

  • @vaidenkelsier7757
    @vaidenkelsier7757 Год назад +1

    Loreena Mckennitt's "The Highwayman" is fucking AMAZING

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Год назад

    I'm glad you take your time and do not rush.

  • @alden2085
    @alden2085 Год назад +1

    I love when you guys come up with wild theories, and look forward to seeing them all tested going forward.
    Also..... La HEE!

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 Год назад

    I love just how little any of us knew at this point. How much there remains to see, to learn...

  • @davelzdr
    @davelzdr Год назад +1

    Great video as always, nice pacing and audio edits, looking forward to your impressions on how the wrap this up.

  • @keithfilibeck2390
    @keithfilibeck2390 Год назад +2

    Emet is probably the best written JRPG character of all time, its honestly criminal that such an amazing story as this will never get the mainstream acknowledgement, just think of if they invested millions into making FFXIV a live action re-telling.

  • @alibutterfly82
    @alibutterfly82 Год назад +1

    "I think Emet might be my favorite thing about Final Fantasy so far." There was a video a while back where you said Zenos was not your favorite villain or something to that effect and I commented there to just keep going (implying someone else here MIGHT take that title), because I was so excited for you guys to meet Emet and certain that you'd love him. I'm glad to see that was a correct line of thinking ^_^ I hope you continue to enjoy how they build out his character as you work your way through the story. Honestly... to me, I wouldn't even say he's a villain, once all is said and done. As you experienced in this section of the story, he has a very good reason for taking the actions he takes (and has taken for millennia). He's kind of more of an antihero or antagonist, rather than a villain. He's certainly the hero of his own story, and perhaps, aspirationally/if he fulfills his goals, his people's (at least from his perspective).

  • @flockofmurlock
    @flockofmurlock Год назад +2

    Love the opening

  • @InsanityReborn
    @InsanityReborn Год назад +2

    The biggest thing about Emet you're going to like:
    Largely speaking, as is clear by his question at the end there: He is not wrong. Not strictly speaking. Comparatively villainous in his views, yes. But not incorrect.

  • @danielj6897
    @danielj6897 Год назад

    As jarring as the Lahee music is while you quest thru the story, the nighttime version of Lahee is so calm and beautiful.

  • @henriettenohr
    @henriettenohr Год назад +2

    Respect to Major General Toot-Toot Minimus of the Za-Lord's Guard 😂 absolutely love that you have read The Dresden Files 🎉

  • @sinom
    @sinom Год назад +9

    You might be the first person to ever ship the Exarch and Y'shtola...
    Also. laHEE

  • @TheNameCannotBeFound
    @TheNameCannotBeFound Год назад +1

    Bro, I’m at the gym right now and that intro had my laughing like an idiot because I was so engrossed in the hype of a new video. People looked at me like I’m crazy, haha!

  • @cocotaem5101
    @cocotaem5101 Год назад +1

    *rubs hands together* Oh their questions... it's gonna be great >:D
    Also, how great is it that you can't even see Emet's face when he says "For our world... for our people." He purposefully turns away so you don't see his expression.

  • @Kataxu
    @Kataxu Год назад +1

    Good job guys, this video really gets the hype going for tomorrow!!!

  • @ruruprime1280
    @ruruprime1280 Год назад +1

    I loooove your theories. It reminds me of my own when I went through this back when this first came out. Hell yeah.

  • @maracaegrizzley8734
    @maracaegrizzley8734 Год назад +1

    I am sincerely enjoying watching your journey through this game and I look forward to the day you get some of the answers you seek. Some in Shadowbringers, some in Endwalker. But yes, "Hop on Pop" is thematically important and there is a reason why, in Pokemon, I had a Tsareena nicknamed "Hydaelyn".

  • @jeremyphillips6564
    @jeremyphillips6564 Год назад

    I would bet money that Soken knew exactly what he was doing, making La Hee start like that whenever you finish a cutscene. The man's a troll who also happens to be a brilliant composer.
    Been loving these videos, and glad that you've been enjoying yourselves.

  • @jonathanprice8684
    @jonathanprice8684 Год назад +2

    I feel like this video should have ended just after that sad walk with "LA HEE".

  • @deeeebeeeee
    @deeeebeeeee Год назад

    I just realized this, but that sounds exactly like what's happening, because if you think back to your first primal fight in ARR against Ifrit, Ifrit mentions that we're already "someone else's". Adding a little bit of context from Emet's retelling, it's very easy to expand that to us being "someone else's thrall" or "Hydelaen's thrall". Ifrit can't enthrall us because the mother crystal already has. I didn't think about it until you guys mentioned it, but, as soon as you did, it took me right back to that conversation with Ifrit.

  • @valkyriebait136
    @valkyriebait136 Год назад +1

    Oh shit. A Dresden Files callout? This IS the content I was looking for!

  • @WayTooLateTV
    @WayTooLateTV Год назад +6

    *Civilizations Intensifies*

  • @nspaulding07
    @nspaulding07 Год назад +1

    No love for Urianger receiving a friendly butt slap from Y'Shtola, as well as his extravagant description of the night sky?
    (btw, best use of popup white text in a video to date. Great comedy work in the video this week!)