Recently got back into bmx biking and less then a week ago took a nasty fall that left my face all cut up and broke my collar bone. Stay safe out there and just because you used to be able to do it, does not mean you can definitely do it again after some time has passed.
So glad i found this, Currently restoring my first bike, a 2000 Mongoose Fuzz extreme and was gonna get it powder coated, Will remember to take every single thing apart and designate what not to powder coat
@@bmxscape Maybe, but BoltDepot also has stainless steel bolts available, and every bolt length possible, so you can get the exact bolt length needed to utilize all the threads in your stem. My factory stem bolts left about 1/2 of stem threads unused. I buy a ton of stuff from there, usually in stainless steel.
@@bmxscape Thanks for the heads up. It seems there is risk of corrosion in the presence of moisture, which shouldn't be a problem. I also applied a generous amount of Park Tool grease on both the stem threads and the bolt threads. Hopefully no issues!
Thanks for letting me know what to ask for, when getting a person to powder coat for me, I would have never known about the screws and the inside of the bike
Powder coaters.. In my experience, you have to remove every single bolt and cover parts you don't want to be painted. They'll never do it if you give them too many items to paint.
First off are the pedals 1/2 inch? Second, take a exacto knife and cut around all the crank bolts, I know it's a pain in the ass but if you take your time it will work and third , tell your customer not to ever just drop off parts to a powder coater with out having a talk with them first.
Yep yep and if you really want it take that another step you can take an exacto knife around the sprocket and chain wheel very carefully so it'll crack where you cut it oh yeah and they can't fool us he's b*********** us those are half inch pedals
It will get sorted out, but yes, while powdercoat is an outstanding product, thought must be put into when when and where it's used.. seatposts I just paint, and when they get scratches, I repaint them.. Sick bike tho, in its day, one of THE bikes to have.
T on the serial number means it's a chromoly frame. The Team Mongoose and Supergoose are the same chromoly frames. The difference is that the Supergoose were nickel plated and the team frames were candy apple red or blue.
This reminds me when I was back at School, a white bike, and Someone saying "guys" everysingle second. No offence. This videos are the best you can find about old School BMX education. Thanks. And keep it up.
Everything phu up tight about is all fixable other than the crank and he will have to deal with that if he ever takes the sproket apart. So hell it'll be fine. Tell him not to give himself a heart attack he getting to old to get excited lol. Great job guys Alfredo!
Your shop in the bomb man I just died at 12:20. He been better off buying the complete crank set. Wow looks good as a wall piece but a test drive cant happen.
You're welcome, I was one of the individuals that inform you guys it was a team model..... Also, the owner of the mongoose should of gone with a Dura Ace 3-piece crank keep it authentic.
I'm always amused by these customers that can't build their own bikes. I could understand having the wheels built but everything else is just bolting it together. Does Phu offer to do it for free if he can use it for the video?
The whole thing definitely seems weird to me. Who is into old school vintage bmx restoration if you didn’t grow up riding them? Why didn’t he ask the guy who was going to be assembling it about the process/design? One thing for sure: the bike is a disaster 😂
Here's a show idea, Phu; how do you remove Odyssey Thunderbolts? I'm playing hell trying to change my sprocket. I even greased it when I installed the cranks.
I’ve watched allot of your videos! Great videos👍but I’ve never seen this one? Great restore on this Team Mongoose! I had 3 mongoose bikes back in the day! Half Chromoly Mongoose, Team Mongoose which came in like almost like a candy Blue not that color blue but that is a nice blue, similar to the stock blue they came in, in the 70, early 80s My 3rd was a chrome supergoose! Keep up the great videos!!
The repop brakes are ok, but mine had a bent spring- had to use a generic, and the quick release doesn’t work… but then, the quick release on the originals was often stuck too. I like reusing the originals.
OMG.... ok I want to restore my bike now. I still have my Elf frame/fork from 1989. a pretty much everything else was GT, minus the Peregrine 3-piece cranks (even replaced the stripped bolts ) She's rough, Original mushroom grips are missing the ends (of course), donuts are peeling, The GT chain is missing, the hubs off the aluminum hubs are shot.
I’m a strong believer in original survivor condition. Powder coating makes the bike look new.. yes But in reality it’s not. It’s old school and should be kept as such. But that’s just my opinion. Different riderz different likes. Greetings from Oceanside California 😎 Stay RAD 🤙
Nice bike, at the end of the day it's the owners bike and how they want it. However unless they are 100% doing everything themselves they should consult with the person or people assembling the bike to see what works and doesn't work and figure out a solution to it.
The bicycle really does look totally amazing except for all of the white powder coated parts on it. The crankset really should be gold including the stem and everything else that got painted white.
Hey everyone I'm going to be purchasing a 1994 gt it has vertigo stickers but I'm not sure if it is a vertigo it's a good deal so I'm still getting it. But how can I figure out the bikes original paint color the paint that's on it is a darkish galaxy purple if you can picture than. Also the paint is in decent condition I don't see any missed spots showing a diffrent color or any paint runs. I looked all over google for a gt in this color and could not find it. I wish I could post a pic..
Ive owned mine sine new it doesn't have paint either. But except for tires andone side crank arm. It 100 percent original all black pads and swaed seat. I bought it at the shwin shop in Rockville MD. The same place i got my 5 speed
The feeling of having so many wrong things going with the paint and having it put together by an expert is so frustrating as each part is put together.
It's not that bad hopefully. What size are the cranks? An pedals. Can just get adapters for it. 9/16 to 1/2. If the pedals are the smaller ones. Hope it works out for you. I have faith in you Phu You Can Do It
I mean you should have just removed the bolts in the stem, replaced them with non coated parts and put a different crank on it... Wait for the parts to be corrected and then put the bike back together
I been into bmx building since the early 80s...cant believe how peeps turn gold into shit real fast cuz they dont know the rite way to do stuff correctly....99% 3 piece cranks have bigger pedal spindles...then reg 1 piece cranks..1/2"
Hey people, can anyone tell me if a chrome Mongoose Pro Sniper 1999/2000 is still a thing? Dudes on Vital BMX were losing their shit over a couple in 2020 calling it the Holy Grail. Epic all day, love from Wales. ❤️🏴🏴
Bro at the paint shop used his powder coat like it was a tube of loctite. Just stuck down those bolts for life under that paint. 😂 I have a blue and white powder coated Mafiabikes (same exact color) it’s only a 200$ bike and they managed to take the bolts out before they powder coated it 😂 that’s just pure laziness on the painters part. That’s not professional at all. The paint looks great but not when you paint over all the bolts…
Man last summer I had a tragedy I am the proud owner of the only aluminum Dyno bicycle ever built very limited and I freaking ran it over and I have a hairline crack all my frame and was hoping that someone could tell me how I go about getting it fixed
Thanks for all the support boys!
Prize ??
@@tonysheene6399I'm pretty sure That's a spam/scam comment,
There is no prize!
It was just somebody pretending to be Alfredo!
@@stevepunk1 Yeah your right something like that happened to Scotty Cranmer.
I think you meant to say "Thanks for all the support GUYS!"
😂😂 sorry, GUYSSSS
Recently got back into bmx biking and less then a week ago took a nasty fall that left my face all cut up and broke my collar bone. Stay safe out there and just because you used to be able to do it, does not mean you can definitely do it again after some time has passed.
Damn breh. But yes, so true.
I broke my collar bone many years ago... Wasn't a good time.
Be well.
I just broke my collar bone from a bmx crash last week still in a sling
So glad i found this, Currently restoring my first bike, a 2000 Mongoose Fuzz extreme and was gonna get it powder coated, Will remember to take every single thing apart and designate what not to powder coat
Run it up for Alf!
Porkchop rules! I've done a couple of mid skool restorations with stuff I ordered from them.
New stem bolts are about $5 @ BoltDepot, they have bolts for everything, including stainless steel bolts.
$5 for some bolts damn bruh you can get bolts much cheaper. every bike shop should have a stash of m6 bolts
@@bmxscape Maybe, but BoltDepot also has stainless steel bolts available, and every bolt length possible, so you can get the exact bolt length needed to utilize all the threads in your stem. My factory stem bolts left about 1/2 of stem threads unused. I buy a ton of stuff from there, usually in stainless steel.
@@AmazingChinaToday i wouldnt use stainless on stems since most are aluminum and stainless contacting aluminum creates galvanic corrosion
@@bmxscape Thanks for the heads up. It seems there is risk of corrosion in the presence of moisture, which shouldn't be a problem. I also applied a generous amount of Park Tool grease on both the stem threads and the bolt threads. Hopefully no issues!
@@AmazingChinaToday thats good, with grease or anti seize you should have no problem.
Thanks for letting me know what to ask for, when getting a person to powder coat for me, I would have never known about the screws and the inside of the bike
When it comes restoring old school BMX... And you want it done right, sometimes you gotta do it yourself.
Powder coaters.. In my experience, you have to remove every single bolt and cover parts you don't want to be painted. They'll never do it if you give them too many items to paint.
lazy cost money
Exactly. Most of these guys have no interest in, or knowledge of, the item you’re having powder coated. They’re just doing their job.
the landlord special. reminds me of the house i'm currently living in. so painful.
First off are the pedals 1/2 inch? Second, take a exacto knife and cut around all the crank bolts, I know it's a pain in the ass but if you take your time it will work and third , tell your customer not to ever just drop off parts to a powder coater with out having a talk with them first.
Yep yep and if you really want it take that another step you can take an exacto knife around the sprocket and chain wheel very carefully so it'll crack where you cut it oh yeah and they can't fool us he's b*********** us those are half inch pedals
Hell yea! Just got my old chrome Hutch Pro racer back in business and used a hell of a lot of elbow grease jajaja
It will get sorted out, but yes, while powdercoat is an outstanding product, thought must be put into when when and where it's used.. seatposts I just paint, and when they get scratches, I repaint them..
Sick bike tho, in its day, one of THE bikes to have.
STILL one of THE bikes to have. I still have my ‘81 Goose that I built in ‘82. 🤘🏼
Thanks for shouting out pork chop BMX from Georgia!
T on the serial number means it's a chromoly frame. The Team Mongoose and Supergoose are the same chromoly frames. The difference is that the Supergoose were nickel plated and the team frames were candy apple red or blue.
Damn, that’s awesome to know! Thank you!
Wrong. T is for Team. C is for chromoly
I had that framed blue bike with motomags...the ruff gray colored mags...got it new as a kid. So kewl.
This reminds me when I was back at School, a white bike, and Someone saying "guys" everysingle second. No offence. This videos are the best you can find about old School BMX education. Thanks. And keep it up.
Everything phu up tight about is all fixable other than the crank and he will have to deal with that if he ever takes the sproket apart. So hell it'll be fine. Tell him not to give himself a heart attack he getting to old to get excited lol. Great job guys Alfredo!
Your shop in the bomb man I just died at 12:20. He been better off buying the complete crank set. Wow looks good as a wall piece but a test drive cant happen.
Looks like you're going to be sanding and taking time as long as it takes 🎉
Powder coating the frame and forks was good but the rest of the parts should have been re anodized and chromed instead.
can you put a 3/8th axle on 14mm dropout???
they make adapters to go from 3/8 to 14 mm the pain in the but is going from 14mm to 3/8
A good static coat paint gun ca get in the hard to reach places.
We lit!! 🔥
You're welcome, I was one of the individuals that inform you guys it was a team model..... Also, the owner of the mongoose should of gone with a Dura Ace 3-piece crank keep it authentic.
I'm always amused by these customers that can't build their own bikes. I could understand having the wheels built but everything else is just bolting it together. Does Phu offer to do it for free if he can use it for the video?
Yeah, when you buy a department store bike.
@@Aod-kp2oz Whether you buy it from Walmart or get all the parts from Empire BMX, the process is still the same, and not super complicated.
Building it is the best bit!
The whole thing definitely seems weird to me.
Who is into old school vintage bmx restoration if you didn’t grow up riding them?
Why didn’t he ask the guy who was going to be assembling it about the process/design?
One thing for sure: the bike is a disaster 😂
Even if it’s not ours. I think it’s going to look awesome!
My boy was stressing on this build 😂😂
😂
So what does that mean? Is the peddle screws too small?
Here's a show idea, Phu; how do you remove Odyssey Thunderbolts? I'm playing hell trying to change my sprocket. I even greased it when I installed the cranks.
Isn't the Mongoose frame sticker supposed to go on the down tube?
That’s what i was thinking as well
I’ve watched allot of your videos! Great videos👍but I’ve never seen this one? Great restore on this Team Mongoose! I had 3 mongoose bikes back in the day! Half Chromoly Mongoose, Team Mongoose which came in like almost like a candy Blue not that color blue but that is a nice blue, similar to the stock blue they came in, in the 70, early 80s My 3rd was a chrome supergoose! Keep up the great videos!!
T model. Awesome sauce!
Tighten everything up and use a touch up pen inside the bolts if the customer is aware from the beginning then it shouldn’t be a problem
Solid
That is awesome 😎 great job bro 😎
Phus the man!
I love this man
You make it work like MacGyver
The repop brakes are ok, but mine had a bent spring- had to use a generic, and the quick release doesn’t work… but then, the quick release on the originals was often stuck too. I like reusing the originals.
WTF.!!!
That would piss me off to no end
Ohhh no! Polished aluminum would have been cool vs that toothpaste powdercoat
Should have just had them parts anodized instead of powder coating them. Frame and fork looks good though.
You’re totally right!
Lol bad powdercoating yeah .another great video.
Do all bolts chrome or black look nice both ways
Where a bouts is you shop in the USA THANK
I have those white repop brakes on my 83 predator
OMG.... ok I want to restore my bike now. I still have my Elf frame/fork from 1989. a pretty much everything else was GT, minus the Peregrine 3-piece cranks (even replaced the stripped bolts ) She's rough, Original mushroom grips are missing the ends (of course), donuts are peeling, The GT chain is missing, the hubs off the aluminum hubs are shot.
Should’ve pulled the powder coated bolts out and replaced them with fresh Grade 8 bolts. Non issue.
I’m a strong believer in original survivor condition. Powder coating makes the bike look new.. yes But in reality it’s not. It’s old school and should be kept as such. But that’s just my opinion. Different riderz different likes. Greetings from Oceanside California 😎 Stay RAD 🤙
Always send it to chip at C4 Labs! ;). He just matched allllll my trick star stuff and did it right!!
The jorts are a masterpiece
Nice bike, at the end of the day it's the owners bike and how they want it.
However unless they are 100% doing everything themselves they should consult with the person or people assembling the bike to see what works and doesn't work and figure out a solution to it.
Imprisoned cranks ~ n they been blown out
The bicycle really does look totally amazing except for all of the white powder coated parts on it. The crankset really should be gold including the stem and everything else that got painted white.
Yes, and sadly, the bolts on the stem look horrible painted white. :(
Yoo whats a good powercoat shop in oc
Put new bolts in it and my opinion I would change the crank set
There’s a good idea have your local bmx shop take it apart for prep for powder coating 🤔more cost but done right 🤔
Mite b C4 labs for powered coating...they do every thing if u like even decals
The mongoose decal is installed backwards!
The red is supposed to be in front and orange in back..
Hey everyone I'm going to be purchasing a 1994 gt it has vertigo stickers but I'm not sure if it is a vertigo it's a good deal so I'm still getting it. But how can I figure out the bikes original paint color the paint that's on it is a darkish galaxy purple if you can picture than. Also the paint is in decent condition I don't see any missed spots showing a diffrent color or any paint runs. I looked all over google for a gt in this color and could not find it. I wish I could post a pic..
EPIC! fAiL
Ive owned mine sine new it doesn't have paint either. But except for tires andone side crank arm. It 100 percent original all black pads and swaed seat. I bought it at the shwin shop in Rockville MD. The same place i got my 5 speed
Have another beer. Pedals are the wrong size treads
The feeling of having so many wrong things going with the paint and having it put together by an expert is so frustrating as each part is put together.
Parts that would have never been powder coated back then shouldn't be powder coated today. :(
Is there a part 2 was he mad ?
Use the re-pop!
Is it a cromoeole frame
Wuzup sir Alfredo sir...💪💪😁😁
Hey bud!
I’m sure someone has already mentioned that the top tube decal is on backwards.. Red goes forward.. Just saying 😂
Another episode of the alfredo mancuso fiasco Sounds good?
I wouldn't have touched the bike until I contacted the owner and informed him of everything that could go wrong due to the powder coating issues
Sheeeeesh!
It's not that bad hopefully. What size are the cranks? An pedals.
Can just get adapters for it. 9/16 to 1/2. If the pedals are the smaller ones. Hope it works out for you. I have faith in you Phu
You Can Do It
I mean you should have just removed the bolts in the stem, replaced them with non coated parts and put a different crank on it...
Wait for the parts to be corrected and then put the bike back together
John Redcorn. Funny.
shhh tip x them bolts
I had that same bike
I don't understand the whole powdercoating thing. These bikes were originally painted or anodized. Why not restore them that way.
I know what happened:
Can you powder coat my bike?
YUP!
How much?
Whatcha got we charge by the part.
Hmm.
Nice...
I been into bmx building since the early 80s...cant believe how peeps turn gold into shit real fast cuz they dont know the rite way to do stuff correctly....99% 3 piece cranks have bigger pedal spindles...then reg 1 piece cranks..1/2"
Hey people, can anyone tell me if a chrome Mongoose Pro Sniper 1999/2000 is still a thing? Dudes on Vital BMX were losing their shit over a couple in 2020 calling it the Holy Grail.
Epic all day, love from Wales. ❤️🏴🏴
Bro at the paint shop used his powder coat like it was a tube of loctite. Just stuck down those bolts for life under that paint. 😂 I have a blue and white powder coated Mafiabikes (same exact color) it’s only a 200$ bike and they managed to take the bolts out before they powder coated it 😂 that’s just pure laziness on the painters part. That’s not professional at all. The paint looks great but not when you paint over all the bolts…
Yer the chainwheel now looks like trash God i hope that isn't an Original 1979-80 Chainwheel.
lmfao come on bruh
Why go with white accessories? The Mongoose Team didn’t come with them.
This was authentically traumatic.
Gorgeous build…terrible customer/powder coating decision
Dam shame they ruined it with not taking the bolts out. Wow i cant believe the threads are done of them cranks also🤔🤔🤪😦😦
My old bikes from the 80's look like used bikes like they are supposedly to
John Redcorn?!😅
Please don't hang yourself. I'm learning a lot! Besides hanging doesn't always work.
Just jb weld those on!
hi
Yo
Looks like it was amateur hour when it came to the powder coating..
Bikes where less beefy back then, eh?
Man last summer I had a tragedy I am the proud owner of the only aluminum Dyno bicycle ever built very limited and I freaking ran it over and I have a hairline crack all my frame and was hoping that someone could tell me how I go about getting it fixed
I don’t like the paint of the handle bars & the white
The headtube sticker looks way too big
I am refurbing a RL now, free to me so I’m tryna sell it for more bike parts for my other bikes