SEGA 32x Doom Network Multiplayer: Doom 32x Resurrection v2.0

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

Комментарии • 66

  • @RetroSegaDev
    @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +7

    Huge thanks to Barone for providing the network game footage!

  • @AdamWilliams-kz4pf
    @AdamWilliams-kz4pf 2 года назад +18

    This is amazing! I was playing the 1.5 version yesterday and was thinking this would be amazing with the zero tolerance link cable but figured it was impossible. The widescreen option and image improvements are incredible. You guys are truly making the impossible possible, thank you so much!

    • @SCIN
      @SCIN 2 года назад +4

      One thing that would be good would be to be able to open the map with a fast click on the Mode button, unfortunately the game has this deficiency, version 2.0 for min does not work, I get the message after the introduction "P_grouplines: miscoubted" Does not leave this screen

  • @orderofmagnitude-TPATP
    @orderofmagnitude-TPATP Год назад +2

    I knew doing was rushed to 32x!!! I knew it!! This is awesome

  • @jbmaru
    @jbmaru 2 года назад +5

    2-player DooM is such fun. It's awesome that 32X owners can have it too.

  • @RetroBytesUK
    @RetroBytesUK 2 года назад +4

    It's really nice to see a port of doom still being worked on for the 32x. It great to see what the HW can really do when someone spends the time needed to push it.

  • @DaveVoyles
    @DaveVoyles 2 года назад +4

    DOOM 32X was the main version I played as a kid. Holds a special place in my heart

  • @metalslayergameplays6089
    @metalslayergameplays6089 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff. Could be great to see more games with link cable, Rock n Roll Racing for example.

  • @SgtCrispy
    @SgtCrispy 2 года назад +7

    Awesome! Every update to this just makes my younger self happier. Truly happy seeing the 32X port get the love it deserved.

  • @AmaroqStarwind
    @AmaroqStarwind 2 года назад +4

    And of course, the 32X CPUs are basically underclocked Saturn CPUs. I wonder if overclocking the 32X to match the Saturn would break too many things.

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 2 года назад +2

    The only option I would love to see Resurrection would be to add an NTFS version. It's slow compared to the release here in the states. I've ever determined it controls differently between the PAL and NTFS version by upping the clock speed of the PAL version and simply running, turning, and firing. On the NTFS version I can make tighter turns and shoot faster. I know it's nitpicking but I so enjoy 32x DOOM that it's almost second nature to my muscle memory! Great video by the way!

  • @madmax2069
    @madmax2069 9 месяцев назад +1

    I would love for a game like this to support online multiplayer using the mega everdrive, but it might be too much for it to handle.

  • @WhatHoSnorkers
    @WhatHoSnorkers 2 года назад +2

    Zero tolerance! I AM THE LAW! Good job!

  • @Larry
    @Larry 2 года назад +7

    Can you buy these link up cables anywhere?

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +5

      You can indeed! www.tototek.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_6_12&products_id=84

  • @gamecomparisons
    @gamecomparisons 2 года назад +1

    According to the internet interviews the Saturn version was down ported to exclude the VDP-1 in particular. Leaving the game to run only on the Saturn's SH-2's and presumably the VDP-2 for output. So, Doom 32X Resurrection is a fair comparison to the Saturn version, which was gimped due to unrealistic corporate demands.

  • @adropher
    @adropher 2 года назад +3

    The game looks absolutely incredible on a crt with the new color mode and higher resolution, unfortunately I can’t switch to cd audio from my mega cd 2 anymore with this new version
    Other than that this update is just insane

    • @abaroners
      @abaroners 2 года назад +2

      A bugfix release will be available soon. We're aware of the Audio CD bug and Vic has already fixed it.
      Thanks for the feedback and for playing it! Stay tuned!

    • @adropher
      @adropher 2 года назад +3

      @@abaroners Awesome stuff! Thank you guys for doing such an incredible mod, finally something nice to play on the 32x 😄

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +3

      Psssttt it's not a mod 😉 it's a complete rewrite

    • @adropher
      @adropher 2 года назад +1

      @@RetroSegaDev My bad🥲 Thank you guys for doing such an incredible complete rewrite!

  • @garrettspencer3887
    @garrettspencer3887 2 года назад +1

    Good gameplay just supported you

  • @BushidoBrownSama
    @BushidoBrownSama 2 года назад +2

    Absolutely nuts, i love it lol

  • @Genesis814
    @Genesis814 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @DenofWonder
    @DenofWonder 2 года назад

    Love this! I didn’t even realise this was possible!

  • @axelguzman8432
    @axelguzman8432 Год назад +2

    Señor
    Quake o hexen versión 32X lo soportaría el 32X si no ocupará el sega Génesis sino que fuera el proyecto Neptuno completo desde zero exclusivo sin recortes

  • @BryanTruong
    @BryanTruong 2 года назад +1

    Wow you made a video on this straight away!

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +2

      I'm part of the team and felt this was a substantial upgrade that needed speaking about ASAP! 😁

    • @BryanTruong
      @BryanTruong 2 года назад

      @@RetroSegaDev I forgot that lol

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      @@BryanTruong in fairness I tested in the early days. Didn't do anything for this release it involved A LOT of network testing between two 32xs!

    • @TheJLF65
      @TheJLF65 2 года назад +2

      @@RetroSegaDev Barone and I did most of the network testing. Vic handled the new network setup menus, making it easy to start and join a network game. I've got a CDX + 32X as well as my old Genesis Model 2 + SCD Model 2 + 32X. At one point, the 32X on my CDX quit working, and I had to disassemble the 32X and clean the ribbon cables to get it working again so we could finish the network coding. A lot of effort by the three of us and networking turned out pretty nice. Then Vic dropped that bombshell that he got 320 mode working. Yeah, it was time for a major version number bump. :)

  • @SCIN
    @SCIN 2 года назад +3

    You can help me, this version doom resurrection 2.0 after Intro I get the message on the P_grouplines: miscoubted, I've tried several Doom (E) all of this problem, could post a link with ROM ready please

  • @AlexvrbX
    @AlexvrbX 2 года назад +7

    To be fair to the Saturn, I don't think the Saturn Doom port taxes the VDPs in any meaningful manner - and I don't know how long they had to slap together a close-to-PC-as-possible version. The SH2's are still doing the brunt of the work. If Vic's better-optimized codebase was ported to the Saturn that would be interesting. Even without leaning on the VDPs for anything (except maybe simple backgrounds), the even-larger pallette and faster SH2's would potentially make it the most faithful 32-bit port ever. Oh and the beefier audio subsystem hardware opens more options for audio. Plus if any additional optimizations are made to the SH2 code (not sure there's any headroom) it could apply to both versions.
    Then again, it could be possible to lean on the Sega CD's ASIC to handle the sprites. So in that regard there would be a path for a 32X CD version to compete for the title of best 32-bit port. Then again it would probably be STUPID hard to get everything running in sync, and I've heard the ASIC was a bitch to get running as-intended. See Sonic CD's 3D levels for an example of flawed ASIC code running like dogshit.

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      The ASIC only does 16 colours and the frame rate would tank the more sprites were on screen. It would hinder the game and not help it unfortunately!

    • @AlexvrbX
      @AlexvrbX 2 года назад

      @@RetroSegaDev More than Thunderstrike, Formula One, Joe Montana, etc? Not sure what's it's limits are, and can it handle more stamps at a good framerate if you're not using it for a scaled BG? Do all onscreen stamps share the same 16 color palette?

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      One palette unfortunately! Everything shares the same Bus. Which makes timing a nightmare. You'd have to transfer tiles from the word RAM to the VDP and that's where the bottleneck would get you.

  • @gojohnniegogo
    @gojohnniegogo 2 года назад

    Exciting times!

  • @sogero2
    @sogero2 2 года назад

    I love this so much!

  • @axelguzman8432
    @axelguzman8432 Год назад +2

    Señor
    Si ese juego saliera más pulido todavía u otro motor gráfico en físico con cartucho de +128mb de memoria para el 32X estaría más optimizado o aún no

  • @RetrogradeScene
    @RetrogradeScene 2 года назад

    Hot off the press!! Impressive update

  • @axelguzman8432
    @axelguzman8432 Год назад +1

    Señor
    ¿Ese juego lo podría ejecutar mejor el Génesis con chip svp?

  • @axelguzman8432
    @axelguzman8432 Год назад

    Señor
    Por qué no se puede ver a 320x224 de resolución y 30 fps que le falta al 32X o al cartucho para que llegue a esos parámetros

  • @AlexvrbX
    @AlexvrbX 2 года назад

    o.O Wow

  • @tigheklory
    @tigheklory 2 года назад +2

    Do you need a higher end Everdrive to play this on the 32x? I have the X3.

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      Good question! It's not using the extended mapper so in theory you should be good to go with it

    • @KanonZombie
      @KanonZombie 2 года назад +1

      @@RetroSegaDev I just tested it with the X3, it works. For some reason it took forever to start, for a moment I thought I had made a mistake applying the patch. Other than that, it's awesome!

  • @athos5359
    @athos5359 2 года назад

    how is this possible with only 256 kb of ram? extra ram in casette ,realtime decrompession of assets killing cpus?

  • @axelguzman8432
    @axelguzman8432 Год назад +1

    Señor
    El sega cd lo podría hacer igual pero con marco y disminución de resolución como la de Game Gear de 160x144 estaría compensada la fluidez obvio para sega cd más estable sin caídas de FPS

  • @GhostCorpsGenesis
    @GhostCorpsGenesis 2 года назад

    Wooooo! Someone help me develop a Episode patch; The Real Ghost Corps: Episode XII "DOOM'sDay"! We'll run around with the ability to stream Slipknot & Rob Zombie CDs as BGM, and roast a giant Candy Man as we hunt down Dr. D. and his Putz Patrol.

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад

      Haha! Are you just a fan of Ghostbusters or other things? 😂

    • @GhostCorpsGenesis
      @GhostCorpsGenesis 2 года назад +1

      @@RetroSegaDev Many things. Own the brand name The Real Ghost Corps. Tried pitching to SONY a Ghostbusters expansion to it, but they turned me down. So I'm making the expansion just around the public domain 1930's Radio show; K.C. & The Ghost Corps and various Sega related worlds. Like El Vientio: Annet Futatabi.

  • @zombiekilldemon
    @zombiekilldemon 2 года назад

    Okay so to use the Sega mouse for Doom Resurrection you need to have it in port 2 and a normal controller in port 1. To use zero tolerance link cable it needs to be in port 2. Is it still possible to system link and still play with a controller and mouse? Would you need the Sega Genesis multitap 4 player adapter and if so how would you wire it???

    • @zombiekilldemon
      @zombiekilldemon 2 года назад

      I wanna have 2 full tower of power set ups with the CD audio linked together outputting to 2 Retrotinks and have both with controller and mouse. All to bring to life that PC style system link Doom party with mouse controls on a Genesis. Something console gamers of the time could only dream of.

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      I wouldn't rule out this not becoming a thing ... 😂

    • @victorluchitz7907
      @victorluchitz7907 2 года назад +1

      Unfortnately it's not possible to use both the Sega Mouse and the link cable simultaneously

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      This is something I didn't know!

    • @zombiekilldemon
      @zombiekilldemon 2 года назад

      @@victorluchitz7907 even with the Multitap? And would it be possible to add that support with an update?

  • @axelguzman8432
    @axelguzman8432 2 года назад +1

    Como es esto posible

  • @toronaldaris
    @toronaldaris 2 года назад

    32x kind of looks like a kidney don't it? Maybe we shouldn't be so surprised when they cost the same. LUL. Just need to know if it will filter my blood too.

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev  2 года назад +1

      🤣 not sure if the two CPUs are up to that