just some constructive feedback about the video from an umpire's point of view and what we are looking for as an umpire. 1:18 "wait for the sound of the stick check". Ok, you are never supposed to judge a stick check by sound, there are some factors into it such as did the player touch the ball BEFORE hitting the stick, was it a stick obstruction by the person with the ball, and more factors and it was still like that in the 2017 update. 3:00 it is not an offence to run between the person taking the ball and another player, it is only an offence if that player prevents the other player from going in and making a legitimate tackle or play at the ball 4:26 "when the ball gets injected it MUST leave the circle before you can ". that statement is false, the ball needs to go outside the circle before you can score a goal, it is not an offence to trap the ball inside the circle. and if this gets updated id love to see something on penalty strokes and pc upgrades as they are a huge part of the game too.
@@bames5028 what makes you think I'm a nerd? you will probably find that most umpires know the rules like this too so it isn't just me. I am not smart, I have just been umpiring the game for 4+ years and my knowledge of the rules has grown. about 2 years ago if I was told this I would believe it.
Don't trust the videos info, refer to my comment for more info or check out the videos made by the FIH which is official information and simple to understand just search: how to hockey fih. FH umpires are another credible source too.
@Luca Laberinti what makes you think I'm a nerd? you will probably find that most umpires know the rules like this too so it isn't just me. I am not smart, I have just been umpiring the game for 5+ years and my knowledge of the rules has grown. i don't suppose that you even play the game now do you??
During a penalty corner there is no requirement that the attackers allow the ball to come out of the circle before playing it - but they cannot score from any shot made at the goal before the ball has left the circle and then been played back in, before being propelled at the goal. Ball-body(foot) contact is NOT an offence unless the player hit with the ball clearly intended to use the body to stop or deflect the ball or her team gain an advantage from the contact. The forcing of ball -body contact (deliberately playing the ball into the feet or legs of an opponent) is an offence, although most umpires appear not to realize this, because the stand alone Forcing Rule was deleted in 2011. At the time of the Rule deletion the FIH RC stated that the Rule was deleted "because any action of this sort can be dealt with under other Rules" - so the Rule was deleted the offence was not (a bizarre deletion). Obstruction is the illegal prevention of a legitimate tackle attempt, usually due to a ball shielding foul by a player in possession of the ball.
Hi Coach: I'm a fairly new fan of the sport. One thing I'm wondering is this: why wouldn't the offensive side immediately try to flick the ball onto a defender's foot/leg as soon as they enter the arc? I wouldn’t like to see the game played like that, but it seems an easy way to get a penalty corner... Thanks for the excellent video!
That's pretty good insight because that's exactly what players do when they get in the circle. I don't love it about the game either but unless you have a really good scoring chance, if you get in the circle you are as likely to be looking to create a corner as you are to try to score a goal. Watch some high level college hockey and you see it all the time.
@@brucemcnutt8292 Thanks! So, it's like how soccer players tumble over at the slightest touch in the penalty area. Does field hockey have any similar rules to deter going for the feet, like soccer has with players diving...or is the subject even debated?
@@nokumbaya It's not debated and it's not considered "bad sportsmanship" like it is in soccer. (At least I consider faking a foul bad sportsmanship.) Trying to draw a corner by lifting the ball into a defenders foot or drawing an obstruction call is just part of the game, if you want to love the sport you'll need to embrace it.
@@nokumbaya There actually is a deterent to this - but it is subtle. It used to be more explicit in the rules - refered to as 'manufacturing a foul' but that didn't quite capture the subtlety either so it was done away with. Basically, it's not actually a penalty just because a ball hits a foot or other body part - it is only a penalty if that rule is broken AND the other team is disadvantaged by it. So, you can play for a foot in the arc by trying (or at least looking like you're trying) to get the ball past an opposing player by either passing it or running through where they are and into a more advantageous position (e.g. towards the goal, or into a better goal shooting spot etc.). However, if you just seek a foot for the sake of seeking a foot, then since you're not attempting to score or gain better field position etc., it's not possible that you were disadvantaged (i.e., you are not stopped from doing something when you are not trying to do it). In practice, most of the time a foot in the arc disadvantages players, but not always!
because for an foul to be able to be called the player needs to "gain an unfair advantage by conceding a foul" so if you were to enter the D and just plant it on the players foot and then just stop playing then no foul should be called as the player has wasted their advantage by not continuing to play the ball.
just some constructive feedback about the video from an umpire's point of view and what we are looking for as an umpire.
1:18 "wait for the sound of the stick check". Ok, you are never supposed to judge a stick check by sound, there are some factors into it such as did the player touch the ball BEFORE hitting the stick, was it a stick obstruction by the person with the ball, and more factors and it was still like that in the 2017 update.
3:00 it is not an offence to run between the person taking the ball and another player, it is only an offence if that player prevents the other player from going in and making a legitimate tackle or play at the ball
4:26 "when the ball gets injected it MUST leave the circle before you can ". that statement is false, the ball needs to go outside the circle before you can score a goal, it is not an offence to trap the ball inside the circle.
and if this gets updated id love to see something on penalty strokes and pc upgrades as they are a huge part of the game too.
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@@bames5028 what makes you think I'm a nerd? you will probably find that most umpires know the rules like this too so it isn't just me. I am not smart, I have just been umpiring the game for 4+ years and my knowledge of the rules has grown. about 2 years ago if I was told this I would believe it.
I'm a broadcaster and I've never really broadcast Field Hockey before... this was tremendously helpful. Thank you!!
Don't trust the videos info, refer to my comment for more info or check out the videos made by the FIH which is official information and simple to understand just search: how to hockey fih. FH umpires are another credible source too.
@Luca Laberinti what makes you think I'm a nerd? you will probably find that most umpires know the rules like this too so it isn't just me. I am not smart, I have just been umpiring the game for 5+ years and my knowledge of the rules has grown.
i don't suppose that you even play the game now do you??
Working Hockey at the olympics this year and had never seen it before so this helped a lot!
During a penalty corner there is no requirement that the attackers allow the ball to come out of the circle before playing it - but they cannot score from any shot made at the goal before the ball has left the circle and then been played back in, before being propelled at the goal.
Ball-body(foot) contact is NOT an offence unless the player hit with the ball clearly intended to use the body to stop or deflect the ball or her team gain an advantage from the contact. The forcing of ball -body contact (deliberately playing the ball into the feet or legs of an opponent) is an offence, although most umpires appear not to realize this, because the stand alone Forcing Rule was deleted in 2011. At the time of the Rule deletion the FIH RC stated that the Rule was deleted "because any action of this sort can be dealt with under other Rules" - so the Rule was deleted the offence was not (a bizarre deletion).
Obstruction is the illegal prevention of a legitimate tackle attempt, usually due to a ball shielding foul by a player in possession of the ball.
This is my first time playing field hockey this year and I did not know how some rules worked so this really helped
The ball CAN hit the body as long as there is no advantage gained by the offender or disadvantaged to the other team.
Hi Coach: I'm a fairly new fan of the sport. One thing I'm wondering is this: why wouldn't the offensive side immediately try to flick the ball onto a defender's foot/leg as soon as they enter the arc? I wouldn’t like to see the game played like that, but it seems an easy way to get a penalty corner...
Thanks for the excellent video!
That's pretty good insight because that's exactly what players do when they get in the circle. I don't love it about the game either but unless you have a really good scoring chance, if you get in the circle you are as likely to be looking to create a corner as you are to try to score a goal. Watch some high level college hockey and you see it all the time.
@@brucemcnutt8292 Thanks! So, it's like how soccer players tumble over at the slightest touch in the penalty area. Does field hockey have any similar rules to deter going for the feet, like soccer has with players diving...or is the subject even debated?
@@nokumbaya It's not debated and it's not considered "bad sportsmanship" like it is in soccer. (At least I consider faking a foul bad sportsmanship.) Trying to draw a corner by lifting the ball into a defenders foot or drawing an obstruction call is just part of the game, if you want to love the sport you'll need to embrace it.
@@nokumbaya There actually is a deterent to this - but it is subtle. It used to be more explicit in the rules - refered to as 'manufacturing a foul' but that didn't quite capture the subtlety either so it was done away with. Basically, it's not actually a penalty just because a ball hits a foot or other body part - it is only a penalty if that rule is broken AND the other team is disadvantaged by it. So, you can play for a foot in the arc by trying (or at least looking like you're trying) to get the ball past an opposing player by either passing it or running through where they are and into a more advantageous position (e.g. towards the goal, or into a better goal shooting spot etc.). However, if you just seek a foot for the sake of seeking a foot, then since you're not attempting to score or gain better field position etc., it's not possible that you were disadvantaged (i.e., you are not stopped from doing something when you are not trying to do it). In practice, most of the time a foot in the arc disadvantages players, but not always!
because for an foul to be able to be called the player needs to "gain an unfair advantage by conceding a foul" so if you were to enter the D and just plant it on the players foot and then just stop playing then no foul should be called as the player has wasted their advantage by not continuing to play the ball.
Some good examples of hockey infringements. 🏑