The Invasion of Muscovite Russia & the Battle of Klushino 1610

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    An exhausting night march brought Stanisław Żółkiewski, the field crown hetman of Poland, and his men, mostly consisting of winged hussars, to a vast field near the village of Klushino. On his command, the Polish-Lithuanian winged hussars charged forward, ready to pierce any enemy unfortunate enough to get in their way. They were welcomed by musketry, sturdy pikes and eleven field guns. The hussars were about clash with a Russian army superior in numbers on a very challenging battlefield. The battle of Klushino 1610, one of the most famous battles of the winged hussars and one of the most controversial ones, had just begun.
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    00:00-00:37 Intro
    00:37-01:42 Babbel
    01:42-05:32 Chapter 1: False Dimitry
    05:35-11:43 Chapter 2: Counterstrike
    11:43-16:42 Chapter 3: Frontal Assault
    16:42-19:32 Chapter 4: Last Stand & Aftermath
    Bibliography
    Frost, R., Northern Wars, State and Society in Northeastern Europe 1558-1721, 2000.
    Oakley, S. P., War and Peace in the Baltic. 1560-1790, Oxford 1993.
    Przemysław Gawron, The Battle of Klushino, in: Grzegorz Jasiński, Wojciech Włodarkiewicz, Polish Battles and Campaigns in 13th-19th centuries, pp 77-79.
    Sajkowski, A., Introduction in Pamiętniki Samuela i Bogusława Kazimierza Maskiewiczów, Wrocław 1961.
    Sikora, R., Kłuszyn 1610, Warsaw 2010.

Комментарии • 639

  • @SandRhomanHistory
    @SandRhomanHistory  Год назад +37

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    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 Год назад

    • @Ciecior_95
      @Ciecior_95 Год назад +2

      I speak polish, and what's your superpower?

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Год назад

      @@Ciecior_95 0.000625% of human population process this insane ability

    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 Год назад

      @@Ciecior_95 i will never be able to speak Polish, i think your superpower is better

    • @adamradziwill
      @adamradziwill Год назад +1

      "russia" a made construction of the Peter I, I8s. why you didn´t use the original name - Muscovy ? book "The Beginning and Progress of the Muscovy War"

  • @gabrielvanhauten4169
    @gabrielvanhauten4169 Год назад +587

    So, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth fought the Swedes in the north, the Ottomans in the south, the Habsburgs in the west and the Russians in the east all at the same time?? Amazing.

    • @kosa9662
      @kosa9662 Год назад +113

      Habsburgs were pretty much allies of Commonwealth, although Commonwealth nobility disliked them fot being too tyranical. Poles and Austrian actually support each other in XVII century in their respective wars.

    • @kamilszadkowski8864
      @kamilszadkowski8864 Год назад +65

      @@kosa9662 Yes, however, the clashes with Habsburg troops did occur during the war for the succession after the death of King Stefan Batory.

    • @meghnilkalita5847
      @meghnilkalita5847 Год назад +20

      There was no out and out war with habsburgs but yes they used proxies against each other

    • @kamilszadkowski8864
      @kamilszadkowski8864 Год назад +85

      @@meghnilkalita5847 In 1588 Habsburg army literally besieged Karów (Polish capital). Following this event, the Polish army relieved Kraków and chased the invaders into Silesia effectively invading the territory of the Holy Roman Empire, and destroyed the Habsburg army in the Battle of Byczyna/Pitschen.
      As a result of this battle, Maximilian III Habsburg ended up in Polish captivity and part of Silesia went to Poland.
      I don't think this counts as "using proxies".

    • @meghnilkalita5847
      @meghnilkalita5847 Год назад +8

      @@kamilszadkowski8864 yes true, but these battles were part of the war of succesion, I was talking about direct wars for territory or influence

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 Год назад +342

    Fun fact: The Battle of Klushino was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sort of. When Stanisław Żółkiewski was young, a soothsayer prophesied to him that in the future he would become famous by winning a great battle. In his memoirs, Żółkiweski claimed that when marching with his army to the fields of Klushino he was convinced that this will be *the battle*

    • @ontheline3077
      @ontheline3077 Год назад +2

      good to know. Thank you for sharing.

    • @heofonfyr6000
      @heofonfyr6000 Год назад +5

      I mean........... you only ride into this sort of faitful battle once 😅 so it's not like there was another time to confuse the prophecy with 😆

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Год назад +20

      Make enough random predictions eventually you will be remembered for the one time you were right

    • @heofonfyr6000
      @heofonfyr6000 Год назад +13

      @@lolasdm6959 yep. it's not an unusual prediction to want to make when your client is of the knightly class.
      especially if he is rumoured to be the heir to a great thrown 😆

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +2

      Now I wish somebody else would win at Klushino. Then Żółkiewski might have believed his prophecy to become fulfilled at Cecora...

  • @vattghern257
    @vattghern257 Год назад +242

    As a Pole I must say you perfectly pronounce Żółkiewski

    • @grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic9906
      @grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic9906 Год назад +3

      Ale z tymi flagami czerwono czarnymi to zjebał po całości

    • @PhilippBrandAkatosh
      @PhilippBrandAkatosh 9 месяцев назад

      You should add the wings to your tanks to honor your ancestors, cause from what I know, no cavalry saved the day more often than the winged polish riders.

    • @jn1205
      @jn1205 3 месяца назад

      nie posraj się...

  • @clintmoor422
    @clintmoor422 Год назад +113

    .... basically:
    We had one False Dimitry, yes...
    but what about a second False Dimitry?
    and actually a Third False Dimitry?

    • @daviddechamplain5718
      @daviddechamplain5718 Год назад +27

      Always ask for ID from anyone claiming to be a Dimitry

    • @ontheline3077
      @ontheline3077 Год назад +9

      there were lots of them
      such were the times

    • @sammyclassicstarfoxfan9827
      @sammyclassicstarfoxfan9827 Год назад +9

      When the Dimitry is sus.

    • @electricink3908
      @electricink3908 Год назад

      The second one is drinking and posting outrageous content on social media.

    • @PotDylan
      @PotDylan Год назад

      @@daviddechamplain5718 Does this only count for slav Dimitrys' ? I'm Dimitris the Greek lol

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Год назад +70

    Polish, Welsh and Finnish make the linguistic section of my brain bluescreen.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +8

      It's not too bad, if you know how to pronounce those letters.

    • @Nostrama
      @Nostrama Год назад +2

      Hmmmm it depends. I'm Polish and I have rather easy surname to pronounce

    • @afgncap
      @afgncap Год назад +6

      Unlike in English once you learn the rules of pronunciation of letters and diacritics and digraphs you are good to go and can read any new word you see.

    • @Seba-jk9un
      @Seba-jk9un Год назад +6

      Polish is a phonetic language. Every letter is always pronounced the same way. Once you learn those simple rules you can read anything

    • @jozefkozon4520
      @jozefkozon4520 Год назад

      @@Seba-jk9un There is exactly one exeption for that rule.
      But witch one stands without one anyway.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Год назад +132

    There are several videos about this battle already, but this one is clearly the best.
    An interesting fact is that Hetman Stanisław Żółkiewski himself was an opponent of this whole war. He expressed it in his book "The Beginning and Progress of the Muscovy War" which was rather critical towards King Sigismund, and presented some of the nobles originally supporting the false Dmitri, particularly Jerzy Mniszech, very negatively. Żółkiewski was the one who, after capturing Moscow, negotiated the initial agreement with Russian boyars, according to which Polish prince Władysław was supposed to become the Tsar, after converting to Orthodoxy (which was something his father refused to allow).

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam Год назад +4

      To be fair to King Sigismund he already was into quite the quarrel with his kinsmen back Sweden due religious reasons doubt he was all too eager to further invite that sort of problems by allowing his son to convert to Orthodoxy, I doubt such a thing would had sit well among his polish and lithuanian subject on whom his real (and royal) power rested, that being said a less ambitious objective would had been way better in the long run.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +8

      @@Sealdeam " *convert to Orthodoxy, I doubt such a thing would had sit well among his polish and lithuanian subject* "
      First of all, there was freedom of religion in Rzeczpospolita. Polish nobility was primarily Roman Catholic, but in Lithuania the nobility switched from Orthodoxy to Arianism and Kalvinism.
      Then, they were *not subjects* of the king, they were citizens. The name here is misleading, since this guy was more like a prime minister than a king. He was considered to be the first among equals and could be dismissed at any time. Which did happen several times!
      Rzeczpospolita is a literal translation of Respublica, and that's how it should be translated into English too. It's just that they cry a river if there is a person called king at the head of the state. Regardless if he's an electoral king, not a hereditary one. Regardless if his power was very limited and he could be legally released from his office. It's all about the name itself, but it's their language, so we have to accept their choice, even if it's incorrect one.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. Год назад +2

      @bakters Regarding the translation of Rzeczpospolita, between the execution of Charles I and the Stuart Restoration (1649-1660), the English state was officially called the Commonwealth of England, which is most often translated in Polish historiography as "Republika Angielska" and sometimes "Rzeczpospolita".

    • @jerzyponimirski8541
      @jerzyponimirski8541 Год назад +4

      @@Artur_M. Interesting point, however we were Commonwealth in both meanings - as republic and as place where several nations with different religions live in one country i.e. kinda Commonwealth of Nations

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam Год назад +1

      @@bakters so I take then you disagree with my statement regarding the possible negative consequences of that convertion but your rebuttal mostly focuses on Lithuania and only about the nobility since I doubt that primus inter pares situation also placed the Grand Duke at the same level as the regular populous, were they, the people, his fellow citizens or were they his subjects both in reality as well as in paper? (This is BTW a genuine question not some backhanded remark) regardless of the religious freedom and the religious adherence of parts of the nobility to other forms of christianity the majority of the population was catholic and that was already a potential issue as they were then open to external influence from Rome or other nearby catholic powers to resist or rebel their ruler if he were to abandon their faith, all of this happening less than a decade before the start of the bloodiest religious war in the history of the continent when the religious tensions were at an all time high.
      You also mention the relative weakness of the King / Grand Duke and the existence of actual lawful ways that allowed his removal from power by the nobility as some sort of measure to ensure stability avoid conflict (religious or otherwise), to me that does not make logical sense and just a few decades after the events we talk about here, during the reign of Sigismund's other son, history showed the disastrous consequences this sort of situation had: powerful magantes at odds with the head of state, of different religious confession and all too willing to side with external powers to extend their own influence. And all of this just regarding Lithuania, who knows what sort of negative reaction would had provoked in Poland of the heir Władysław had converted to Orthodoxy.

  • @tylerclayton6081
    @tylerclayton6081 11 месяцев назад +12

    Poland has a long a great history. I’m glad it survived as country to the modern day

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 Год назад +137

    I am glad you made a video about this battle. The quality, especially the quality of the research is way, way better than in recent videos about Klushino from other RUclipsrs. The inclusion of newer research from Radosław Sikora is especially refreshing since other videos presented this battle according to the state of knowledge from 30 years ago. Lots of new sources were discovered since then.
    In short, great work SandRhoman!

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Год назад +14

      Glad you enjoyed it! Cool to see you stick around for the Polish-Lithuanian content every time!

    • @kamilszadkowski8864
      @kamilszadkowski8864 Год назад +10

      @@SandRhomanHistory Hey, I watch all your content. It's just that I tend to comment more often under videos about topics I am more familiar with.

    • @bosbanon3452
      @bosbanon3452 Год назад

      You are still active i am the one who once think Kamil is An Arabic name

    • @jannegrey593
      @jannegrey593 Год назад +1

      @@kamilszadkowski8864 Yes. And you're very credible commentator who has clearly studied the subject in-depth. Even if I sometimes disagree with some of your statements, it is good to see such perspective. I wish I had time and resources to update my history knowledge in such a great depth.

    • @emmaegede1262
      @emmaegede1262 Год назад

      @@SandRhomanHistory Why don't you do a video of the Russo-Polish war of 1654-1667 and the first partition of Poland 🇵🇱 in 1772?

  • @milabugtcher990
    @milabugtcher990 Год назад +19

    5:23 - you got me!:-)) I am from Czech but we are close to Poland and this is true sign:-)))

    • @werthor7083
      @werthor7083 Год назад +2

      You (or at least some of you) also use "kurwa" as comma in sentences. 😉

    • @metanoian965
      @metanoian965 Год назад

      @@werthor7083 lol

  • @somedude5951
    @somedude5951 Год назад +40

    Great, I didn't know any of this. So Moscow was once successfully conquered by an European army?
    Great graphics again, just as the historical aspects of the video are.

    • @DenisLyamets
      @DenisLyamets Год назад +14

      Twice. Napoleon also did it. But there was no combat, we just retreated.

    • @alder2460
      @alder2460 Год назад +2

      @@DenisLyamets Borodino

    • @DenisLyamets
      @DenisLyamets Год назад +4

      @@alder2460 Well, yes, we can count it as a battle for Moskow...

    • @ontheline3077
      @ontheline3077 Год назад +3

      @@DenisLyamets and burn it to the bits in the process. The brilliant image of Vereshagin painting just popped in my head

    • @DenisLyamets
      @DenisLyamets Год назад +2

      @@ontheline3077 yes, thats why people say "dont mess with the russians, they do crazy stuff" :D

  • @thcdreams654
    @thcdreams654 Год назад +16

    Masterful work as usual. Thanks for the great content. Always informative and entertaining.

  • @sillyduck5179
    @sillyduck5179 Год назад +16

    Absolutely love the animation of these videos, the mechanical movements is great. Don’t ever change it!

  • @mikenunz
    @mikenunz Год назад +18

    LOL at the "Kurwa" sign. Well done! 😂

  • @beniaminorzechowski9913
    @beniaminorzechowski9913 Год назад +7

    Finally. I have been waiting for a video like this

  • @CarthagoMike
    @CarthagoMike Год назад +10

    Great mini-documentary as always!

  • @gotbaka3
    @gotbaka3 Год назад +3

    Such a good battle, such insightful narration. Hats off

  • @Kierkergaarder
    @Kierkergaarder Год назад +4

    Amazing stuff as usual, thank you.

  • @apersonontheinternet595
    @apersonontheinternet595 Год назад +7

    I love your early modern history and late medieval period videos!

  • @paulrisk606
    @paulrisk606 Год назад +29

    Fascinating the level of training and coordination required to participate in the various battles throughout history. The dance of pike squares and hussar charges shows the differences between professional armies and conscripted rabble.

  • @Atomic866
    @Atomic866 Год назад +4

    Excellent video as always!

  • @philjohnson1744
    @philjohnson1744 Год назад +1

    I very much enjoy this. Thank you for citing yer sources.

  • @Grafzahl25
    @Grafzahl25 11 месяцев назад

    Just leaving a comment for the algorithm. I love your videos. Especially the topics and your visualization. Keep it up, I hope you will get more recognition.

  • @amtmannb.4627
    @amtmannb.4627 Год назад +1

    Excellent video. Very interesting battle and I suppose that the narration of the events was a challenge because of the different sources. Cheers!

  • @billhanna2148
    @billhanna2148 Год назад +2

    Thank you 🙏 again for your EXCELLENT work 🙏👏👏👏

  • @Catonius
    @Catonius Год назад +3

    Nice one, cheers.

  • @snapdragon6601
    @snapdragon6601 Год назад +7

    Great video!
    BTW- That was a nice little guitar lick with some Eastern European flavor right at the end of the video. 🎸 👍

  • @ydkaachillesa9353
    @ydkaachillesa9353 Год назад +2

    And that is one hell of a very well timed material, considering current context!

  • @StoicHistorian
    @StoicHistorian Год назад +7

    So interesting always wanted to know more about this, thank you

  • @jackswiatek5221
    @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +46

    It is worth mentioning some facts of the final negotiations as you mention Polish King failed to do so.
    Firstly,
    Hetman Zolkiewski entered into these negotiations without the King's approval. During this negotiations, Zolkiewski offered the Polish Prince, Wladyslaw 4 to become Tsar, but the Russian side demanded he converted into Ortodox.
    Secondly,
    Polish King refused such a deal and he offered himself to be the Tsar and he would not convert into Ortodox. But Boyars refused it.
    Thirdly...
    the Polish side reason.... Wladyslaw 4 was the only heir to the Polish throne and the only son of Polish King. Polish king did not want to send his only son to Moscow to became really "the hostage" of the boyars... who previously killed False Dimiti, loaded him into a cannon, and shot back to the West... that option for the Polish Kingdom was unacceptable.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +13

      " *Wladyslaw 4 was the only heir to the Polish throne* "
      The throne of Poland was not hereditary.
      " *the boyars... who previously killed False Dimiti* "
      They also killed a lot of wedding guests, which annoyed Polish nobility. It was practically a Red Wedding.

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +9

      @@bakters Correct, the throne was not hereditary, however, every king on the throne had the better chance to sit his son on it. From the point of view of the king as a father, he was preparing his son to get the throne... but, yes, the throne was not hereditary.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +2

      @@jackswiatek5221 " *every king on the throne had the better chance to sit his son on it* "
      Which happened exactly once?
      August II Saxon was not on the throne when his son was elected. I'm not sure he was even alive. I checked that he was dead when August III Saxon was crowned.
      BTW - Both August II Saxon and Stanisław Leszczyński were elected as kings *twice* .
      I mean, the crown was an electoral office, but since most of the world at the time wouldn't understand some weird newfangled names for it, our guys chose to stick with the title of the king.
      Be it in name only.
      (What of the right to an armed rebellion, in case you were treated unjustly? I love that one! This right *was* exercised many times, and from what I know, always rightfully.
      Remember that when you talk to Americans about their "freedums" ;-))

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +3

      @@bakters And in 1425 neminem captivabimus.

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 Год назад

      + Żółkiewski reportedly aceeded to very disadvantegous for the Commonwealth border with Russia.

  • @zetectic7968
    @zetectic7968 Год назад +22

    The battle before the rise of the Romanov's. Very interesting.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +1

      " *before the rise of the Romanov's* "
      There are good reasons to believe that Romanovs were behind Dmitri. It's easier to usurp the throne of a confirmed usurper, you see.

  • @user-xg2pd3ek9u
    @user-xg2pd3ek9u Год назад +3

    Nice animations! the characters look hilarious and fun.

  • @ontheline3077
    @ontheline3077 Год назад +14

    good video as always . Greetings from Russia)

  • @marcinszmuro537
    @marcinszmuro537 Год назад +4

    I like You always add subtitles.

  • @terry7907
    @terry7907 7 месяцев назад

    I am always impressed by your pronunciation of names/words in many languages.

  • @SpinachInfluenza
    @SpinachInfluenza Год назад +23

    Like a fine wine, Your video style has reached a thius far peak of greatness, playful , informative, concise & detailed. I do miss the style of your very first videos, that look like the product of time in a dorm and hope you start a 2nd.. less monetizable history channel, with more silly or absurd history. You have to be the one, others have tried...

  • @Jesse_Dawg
    @Jesse_Dawg Год назад +2

    I love your videos. I neeeeeeeed more please

  • @petrosguasos530
    @petrosguasos530 Год назад +4

    Nice material and nice pronunciation of Polish names, You are doing well.

  • @plrc4593
    @plrc4593 Год назад

    Excellent video.

  • @Smi3tankoweCjastko
    @Smi3tankoweCjastko Год назад +16

    You shoud absolutely cover the battle of Samosierra of 1808

    • @terry7907
      @terry7907 7 месяцев назад

      Those were far different Polish lancers, not Winged Hussars.

  • @Adrian-zn1eu
    @Adrian-zn1eu Год назад +1

    amazing!

  • @nonono5921
    @nonono5921 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing is said about the plot of Dmitry Shuisky who killed Mikhail Skopin Shuisky . Mikhail was a talented commander , like Maurice of orange , because he fought with tactics similar to him . he defeated the Poles 3 times together with delagardi. After that, he was killed by his brother Dmitry, who was an incompetent commander, which is why the battle of Klushin was lost. An amazing story : the army that under the command of Mikhail drove the Poles both in the tail and in the mane under the command of Dmitry ran away from the Poles . this proves once again how important the commander's personality is for soldiers.

  • @przemekflak7961
    @przemekflak7961 Год назад +10

    Few more tips about polish language: "W" is pronounce like english "V" - Vandal is polish Wandal. "Ż" and "RZ" polish pronounce the same and is sound like "J" in french name 'Jean' (Claude Van Damme) or word 'joli'. Letters "Ó" and "U" sounds also the same like "oo" in word "school". So combining hetman's name sounds kind of: Staniswav Joowkievski.

  • @Arturino_Burachelini
    @Arturino_Burachelini Год назад +7

    I made a competition thesis on this battle when I was in high school half a decade ago

  • @kukakis1446
    @kukakis1446 Год назад

    very good and quality video

  • @markgarrett3647
    @markgarrett3647 Год назад +43

    I think this is the battle and campaign that Napoleon studied and took heart from when he marched his troops towards Moscow centuries later.

    • @54032Zepol
      @54032Zepol Год назад +13

      The easy part is getting there the hard part is leaving

    • @markgarrett3647
      @markgarrett3647 Год назад

      @@54032Zepol You should tell that to the Kaisers Heer.

    • @ignacio4159
      @ignacio4159 Год назад +10

      @@54032Zepol getting there isn't easy either

    • @54032Zepol
      @54032Zepol Год назад

      @@ignacio4159 no they let you in, front door and mat.

    • @MrSamurajo
      @MrSamurajo Год назад +14

      Napoleon was advised by prince Poniatowski not to advance on Moscow but to take control over old Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth lands and crush Russian counterattacks there. Well, Napoleon rejected this advice and it ended how it ended 🤷‍♂

  • @jacekszczukocki5506
    @jacekszczukocki5506 Год назад +1

    1:05 yes !!! Your "Stanisław Żółkiewski" was awesome !!!

  • @ae-jo5gc
    @ae-jo5gc Год назад +8

    Jakob de la gardie would later be president of the Council of War in Sweden. He was governor of swedish Estonia and Livonia for a while to.

  • @kdubs9111
    @kdubs9111 Год назад +5

    When your enemy is willing to burn its own capital to the ground to prove a point you should learn to negotiate before conquest defeats you

  • @plrc4593
    @plrc4593 Год назад +4

    0:54 - Ł stood once for dark L. Dark L frequently shifts to /w/ in many languages - Portuguese, dialects of English, old French etc. etc. And it shifted also in Polish. Reportedly yet before the World War II Ł was pronounced as dark L in theaters in Poland, because such pronunciation was considered more correct.

  • @samdumaquis2033
    @samdumaquis2033 Год назад +1

    Very interesting

  • @jackswiatek5221
    @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +5

    It is also worth noting, that the Polish King officially did not support the False Dimiti after very strong opposition of many Polish senators claiming this is immoral and dirty politics not suitable to represent the Kingdom as well as its monarch.

  • @oguzkaganonder1331
    @oguzkaganonder1331 Год назад +1

    I would advice you to take a look at Siege of Nagykanizsa 1601, as it is probably the most succesfull and perfect siege defense in history, it would be a great content for your amazing channel

  • @MrAsarbs
    @MrAsarbs 7 месяцев назад

    You did very well in pronouncing difficult Polish sounds.

  • @maciejmaciaszek6429
    @maciejmaciaszek6429 Год назад +8

    a big thumb up for your pronounciation progress 👍

  • @Maus_Indahaus
    @Maus_Indahaus Год назад +4

    Video suggestion: The staggering sieges of Ceuta

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Год назад +6

    If I recall Czar Michael was able to bring about fifty years of Peace for Russia. Which is nice.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +1

      " *Czar Michael was able to bring about fifty years of Peace for Russia* "
      In which sense of the word? Moscow continued to war against Rzeczpospolita and against rebelling Cossacks in the south (incidentally, in part led by the wife of False Dmitri, who married their ataman).

    • @krzysztofmichniewicz6247
      @krzysztofmichniewicz6247 Год назад

      Yeah... he brought fifty years of peace... by making and loosing another war against Poland-Lithuania just 20 years later during Commonwealth inerregnum time.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Год назад +5

    Informative episode about that conflict based on political instabilities of (Moscow City State)... Military interventions of polish-Lithuania commonwealth in one side & Sweden 🇸🇪 military separately...what a bloodshed political businesses of Nobles at that times

  • @AntipaladinPedigri
    @AntipaladinPedigri 7 месяцев назад

    11:02 Przemysław is pronounced more luke Pshe-mee-suave.
    But your other pronounciations are either spot on like Żółkiewski, or a valiant effort.
    Also thanks for talking about Poland. We barely exist in people's consciousness.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Год назад +7

    Never underestimate the morale pip in EU4.

  • @Spiderfisch
    @Spiderfisch Год назад +10

    Imagine if we got the polish Lithuanian Russian Swedish commonwealth

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +12

      Impossible back then for one major reason.... religion. Both Russia and Sweden were fierce defendants of their own national religion. In Russia if I remember even for the next several centuries changing religion from Ortodox to any other (especially Catholic) was panelized by death.
      In Polish Lithuanian commonwealth religion was pretty much free.

    • @marcinbazucki6919
      @marcinbazucki6919 Год назад +2

      Rather Polish-Lithuanian-Hungarian-Ruthenian Commonwealth. Those were much more close to happend but by some mistakes it never happened. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hadiach

    • @OrdoStorm
      @OrdoStorm Год назад +4

      @@marcinbazucki6919 Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian-Bohemian-Hungarian Commonwealth that would be the superpower, instead central Europe was played and exploited by others.

  • @jackswiatek5221
    @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +12

    There are many interesting facts that would be great to tell.... for example.... recognizing Russian mentality and especially mentality towards the West. When False Dimitri was killed by Boyars, his body was dismembered, loaded into a cannon and shot back to the West from the Kremlin walls.

    • @kellyowens1868
      @kellyowens1868 Год назад

      Yikes! "Ok, do we have any volunteers,
      to give this imitation Dimitry scheme, one more "college" try. Any brave boys here, medium height, fellows who are a little too short for this ride will receive 2 extra issues of socks, some trimmed tree bark for inside your boots, and extra bark will add another inch to the souls of your boots, & you'll receive a free prince valiant hare schnitt, & a little make over, so you'll resemble someone
      hit in the face with a frying pan. The new face making, should heal by summer, mid-fall at the latest. Now we can't promise you some of that young nobel nookie, but some unholy fornication may be required to complete this delicate mission successfully."
      Hey hold up. Back I say! What's got into you guys. Not 3 minutes ago, there wasn't a brave soul amongst the lot of you. Are you ok? Now all this sudden pushing, & shoving like a pack of young boars after the first acorns in spring. Look! You've broken the adjutant's arm with your outrageous tumult. Wait! Back up all off you! You've trampled the regimental mascot dog damn you! Schwiene Hunde! Aus! Aus! I'll run the next man who pushes anyone through with my rusty training Sabre, I swear I will."

    • @Trotilov14-88
      @Trotilov14-88 8 месяцев назад +2

      What's wrong?

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 8 месяцев назад

      @@Trotilov14-88 What's wrong is that since at least Ivan the Terrible, Russia has observed everyone as their enemies without noticing that Russian itself is a very hostile country towards their neighbors.

  • @yourroyalchungusness
    @yourroyalchungusness Год назад +7

    This is one of the example where foreign power successfully invade Russia and occupied its capital without having need to withdraw after

    • @piotrczubryt1111
      @piotrczubryt1111 Год назад +8

      "occupied its capital without having need to withdraw after"
      No, there is no such example.

    • @laingarrison8966
      @laingarrison8966 Год назад +6

      Except that they withdrew right after

    • @piotrczubryt1111
      @piotrczubryt1111 Год назад +2

      @@laingarrison8966 "they withdrew right after"
      Or rather they were besieged and taken prisoners.

    • @MankindDiary
      @MankindDiary Год назад

      Polish squad guarding Moscow has been kicked out of the city by literal peasants.

  • @dwayneskinner6984
    @dwayneskinner6984 Год назад +1

    After a great victory it sounds like it was all thrown away

  • @marcinolek817
    @marcinolek817 Год назад +3

    I am watching it in a train heading to my home town. I almost loughed loudly when I saw "KURWA" inscription in the middle of Polish camp. 😂

    • @hubertkudyba2397
      @hubertkudyba2397 Год назад

      Funny fact , word "kurwa" oryginaly was a russian word , it came to Poland after Moscow sidge. Polish word was "przechodka".

  • @kosa9662
    @kosa9662 Год назад +7

    Its quite funny and ironic that between 1572-1601 there were serious talks about uniting Commonwealth and Tsardom into one state, given how much animosity and hatred will be born to this day

    • @alexanders.380
      @alexanders.380 Год назад +4

      And some of the Russian tsars tried to get elected as the king of the Commonwealth (the election of the king by the nobles was a real thing, not just Pro-forma, so gaining enough support could work out). But if you read the documents of the era, animosity was already present back in the XVI century. They had 6 major wars in XVI alone. So any attempts of a union were not exactly good-hearted, but rather an attempt ob subjection.

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +6

      And it is worth noting why Russians did not want to unify. There is a historical writing by one of the Polish senators who went to Moscow for these negotiations. And he wrote that (I am paraphrasing) "When we (Poles) offered them (Muscovites) to unify with us and live with our golden freedoms, they responded: ""We don't need your freedoms. We have one Tsar and one ruler and we all listen only to him. Your golden freedoms are not for us. Each is his own king and ruler, no one knows who should give orders and who should listen to them,""

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +4

      As a reflection.... you can take a slave out of a russian land, but you can't take a slave out of the russian mind.

    • @radovankekistanovic1342
      @radovankekistanovic1342 Год назад

      @@jackswiatek5221
      why would anyone want to have a dumb oligarchical system of the PLC?
      your aristocrats were prone to being bribed by foreign Monarchs, the serfdom as the harshest in Europe due to the Szlachta having all the power in the Sejm, they refused to serve in the military unless they were well-payed(thus leading to constant military failure)
      and if a single one of them vetoed a law, it was discarded(the Liberum Veto)
      to quote from Wikipedia
      "During the reign of John III Sobieski (1674-1696), half of Sejm proceedings were scuttled by the veto. The practice also spread from the national Sejm to local sejmik proceedings. In the first half of the 18th century, it became increasingly common for Sejm sessions to be broken up by the liberum veto, as the Commonwealth's neighbours, chiefly Russia and Prussia, found it to be a useful tool to frustrate attempts at reforming and strengthening the Commonwealth. By bribing deputies to exercise their vetoes, Poland's neighbours could derail any measures not to their liking. The Commonwealth deteriorated from a European power into a state of anarchy. Only a few Sejms were able to meet during the reign of the House of Saxony in Poland (1696-1763), the last one in 1736. Only 8 out of the 18 Sejm sessions during the reign of Augustus II (1697-1733) passed legislation. For a period of 30 years around the reign of Augustus III, only one session was able to pass legislation (1734-1763). The government was near collapse, giving rise to the term "Polish anarchy", and the country was managed by provincial assemblies and magnates."

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +3

      @@radovankekistanovic1342 Let me explain it:
      "your aristocrats were prone to being bribed by foreign Monarchs" - yes, that is true. however this is the nature of aristocracy in any country unless they are squashed by a monarch. Aristocrats back then were like nowadays corporations. Responding only to their own families and international chains of relations.
      "the serfdom as the harshest in Europe due to the Szlachta having all the power in the Sejm" - this is actually a myth and not true. Recently read a historical study of peasants in many countries including historical studies of the food calories they were taking. As a matter of fact, Polish peasants appear to be the best fed in entire Europe. The life of peasants was increasingly worse, and yes that is fact, but dont forget that Poland from early 18th century was really under Russian occupation.
      "and if a single one of them vetoed a law, it was discarded(the Liberum Veto)" - liberum veto worked very well until it stopped working. This is the historical fact that this law was the cause of many future problems. It was finally changed by the confederated parliament in 1791 by adoption the first in Europe (and second in the world after US) Constitution. The confederation of the parliament was actually a hoax... basically, confederated noblemen told everyone that the Parliament will be in rest for sometime thus sending unconfederated noblemen to their homes. And while then, the parliament met and signed the new law using the same principle "liberum veto". Meaning... there was no one who could opposed to it.

  • @bartangel4867
    @bartangel4867 Год назад

    interesting video.

  • @maganechikujoin2020
    @maganechikujoin2020 Год назад

    hello anybody know name of soundtrack used as background around 6:40 ????

  • @moritamikamikara3879
    @moritamikamikara3879 Год назад +1

    Can't wait for the sequel!

  • @PR_nick
    @PR_nick Год назад

    Amasing battle. It's funny that my childhood neighbor, was Mr. Wilkowski

  • @LarryCroft111
    @LarryCroft111 Год назад +6

    Funny stuff - back in the days "Ł" was pronounced almost like "L" but with a middle of a tongue touching your upper teeth rather than just a tip of it.

  • @alexanderchenf1
    @alexanderchenf1 9 месяцев назад

    18:00 question: how did the Commonwealth split the spoil among its soldiers? Given some of the hussars chased the fleeing enemies, did they get a promise to part of the spoil perhaps with extra bonus to chase the enemy?

  • @KermitPoznan89
    @KermitPoznan89 Год назад +22

    As Polish who’s watching your videos I’m grateful that you’re taking effort in even pronunciation of the names and surnames ❤ I’m pleased watching videos about my country in the past as sadly nowadays none of the leaders could even tie a strap in these historical warriors and kings sword belt 😢
    Anyway- much appreciated and keep it up Lad 🥳💪🏼

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Год назад +5

      Thank you! Will do!

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +2

      I think, Michal, that you are mistaken because the current conservative government built a number of new museums dedicated to the Polish History. Recently, I watch a tube by the guy from the channel "Forgotten Weapons" who visited some of the museums and harvested a nice pack of Polish artefacts to show to the international public.

    • @KermitPoznan89
      @KermitPoznan89 Год назад

      @@jackswiatek5221 m8, I’m talking about who the leaders are now. How they act and what they do. Hence why they couldn’t even kiss feet of the old ones as these anty Polish government we have from 1999 is unbelievable bad for our country. So sorry but few museum build from our money not government is nothing and definitely not an argument about how crappy they are.

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад

      @@KermitPoznan89 There is a tube by prof. Tomasz Panfil: Prof. Tomasz Panfil : Dlaczego przestaliśmy być mocarstwem? (1608- 1648). Listen to it.

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад

      @@KermitPoznan89 ruclips.net/video/yLF-C7neghw/видео.html

  • @iseeyou5061
    @iseeyou5061 7 дней назад

    @SandRhomanHistory I must be missing something but how Jakob recruit more army when he wouldn't or couldn't pay the last one? Edit : 4:18 Is this the aftermath of battle of Tver? Because they didn't desert due to lack of pay but because of high casualties inflicted. Confimation?

  • @artem2435
    @artem2435 Год назад

    5:26 very nice

  • @praetorian3902
    @praetorian3902 Год назад

    1:43 lol for the surprise opening music.

  • @joellaz9836
    @joellaz9836 Год назад

    Do some videos on English civil war sieges (including the ones in Ireland by Cromwell).

  • @shanebattles6132
    @shanebattles6132 Год назад +2

    Great show

  • @TrainmakerPL
    @TrainmakerPL 10 месяцев назад

    You are almost Wi-Fi-password fluent. As a Pole I can say only one thing. Job well done.

  • @wiwersewindemer4437
    @wiwersewindemer4437 Год назад +1

    the map at 2:05 is incorrect. At the time, Sweden had Älvholm, a town and fortress located at the place of modern Gothenburg.

  • @rubz1390
    @rubz1390 Год назад +2

    The false Dmitri situation is like of those "if I had a nickel" memes lol.

  • @Resegy
    @Resegy Год назад

    Ciao, Sandro

  • @AntipaladinPedigri
    @AntipaladinPedigri 7 месяцев назад

    12:30 the surname Struś literally means Ostrich, like the bird that in popular fantasy hides his head in the sand when scared.

  • @menoflowicz
    @menoflowicz Год назад +3

    In 2020 Foundation Instytut Hetmana Żółkiewskiego has published new edition of Sikora's bokk "Kłuszyn 1610", I highly recommend buying it to everyone fluent in Polish!

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад

      Did you read the saga Samozwaniec by Jacek Komuda? He's a trained historian and it's really well written.

    • @cetus4449
      @cetus4449 Год назад

      @@bakters Czytałeś po polsku?

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад

      @@cetus4449 Tak. Jestem Polakiem.

    • @cetus4449
      @cetus4449 Год назад

      @@bakters No to się trochę rozpiszę. Komuda jest wprawdzie magistrem historii, ale jest wyedukowany powierzchownie, a
      pisarz z niego nader przeciętny. Jednak to dobrze, że pisze - im więcej takiej pisaniny, tym prędzej może powstanie nowy literacki gatunek -takie swoiste "easterny" osadzone na Dzikich Polach, czy w ogóle dawnej Rzeczypospolitej. Temat powoli znajduje sobie globalną niszę, nie tylko dzięki memom o Skrzydlatej Husarii, ale nawet dzięki grom - "Hellish Quart" Kubolda robi w świecie robotę, promując specyficzną polską historię, dla której przez długi czas nie było w światowej recepcji miejsca, a przecież wyrazista postać polskiego szlachcica w czym gorsza jest od wikinga, samuraja, muszkietera, pirata z Karaibów, kowboja?
      Pomyśleć, że Amerykanie z tego, że się dwóch pastuchów na Dzikim Zachodzie postrzelało potrafili zrobić cały Western i motyw kowbojski! Tymczasem istna kopalnia opowieści leży nadal niewyeksploatowana. Jeden Sienkiewicz pokazał jej prawdziwy potencjał.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад

      @@cetus4449 " *jest wyedukowany powierzchownie* "
      Poznał warsztat i go codziennie używa. Biegle czyta staropolski, czyli musi mieć pojęcie o Łacinie, poza tym rosyjski i staroruski. Siedzi cięgiem w bibliotece, gdzie zdobył głęboką wiedzę o epoce, co można zobaczyć na kanale Ostoja Tradycji, gdzie go poznałem.
      Tak wygląda powierzchowne wykształcenie? Wie że dzwonią, tylko nie wie w którym kościele?
      Nie sądzę.
      Poza tym ma *praktyczne* doświadczenie w szermierce, jeździe konnej, zbroi, rozmaitych flintach i armatach, czego żaden dr poza Sikorą nie posiada.
      Swoją drogą, Sikora jest z wykształcenia inżynierem. Doktorat z historii zrobił chyba zaocznie. Niewiele to zmienia.
      " *pisarz z niego nader przeciętny* "
      Przeciętny w porównaniu z kim? Poza tym, zbudował sobie dworek szlachecki z tych książek, więc coś mu się chyba udaje...
      " *promując specyficzną polską historię, dla której przez długi czas nie było w światowej recepcji miejsca* "
      Miejsce to było, tyle że kiedyś nie było wolno tego robić, a nawet teraz nie bardzo to w smak polskojęzycznym władzom.
      Mimo to się przebijamy.
      " *Jeden Sienkiewicz pokazał jej prawdziwy potencjał.* "
      Nie da się już pisać jak Sienkiewicz. Zrozumiałem to, gdy mój siostrzeniec z obrzydzeniem odrzucił W Pustyni I W Puszczy, bo Staś był tam absolutnym wzorem wszystkich zalet, więc jak w końcu przeczytał, że nawet pływał lepiej niż poławiacze pereł, to cisną tą książką w kąt i więcej po nią nie sięgnął.
      Paradoksalnie, Sapkowski lepiej wypromował polską kulturę niż Sienkiewicz. Komuda też ma szanse, choć pisze od Sapkowskiego gorzej, bo Komuda ma szanse trafić w niszę zainteresowanych historią. Mimo że nie jest ich wielu, to ich opinia ma nieproporcjonalnie duże znaczenie.

  • @Deailon
    @Deailon Год назад +5

    This battle is mythologised a lot. It was nice to see a recapitulation that shows blunders on both sides.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Год назад +6

      " *This battle is mythologised a lot.* "
      No, it's not. The more research we do, the more crazy it all looks.
      " *blunders on both sides* "
      Which blunders on the Polish side? The fact that they walked past the sleeping enemy camps? It was pitched dark, they traveled through narrow roads, no wonder they couldn't see anything and the forward units managed to miss the enemy.
      People seem to forget that those nice tidy rectangles represent 100 or 200 horsemen. Most of the roads were a single wagon roads, which means only two guys could ride side-by-side, so that's 50 horses long column. That's one "tidy square" only, and there were many of those.

    • @Deailon
      @Deailon Год назад +1

      @@bakters
      Ad 1. It is, as historical politics of many sides of this battle interfere with how it is presented in text books and political pamphlets.
      Research is mostly inconsequential to the national myths.
      Ad 2. The blunders shown in the movie.

    • @Deailon
      @Deailon Год назад

      > incoherent nationalistic rambling of some stranger on the internet.
      Sure dude, whatever you say.

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад

      @@Deailon The only thing I have never seen on any tube is to show polish hussar cavalry tactics on a battlefield. It is found in Polish historical books, but no one else really has access to it.
      Tactics from the point how a horseman was trained, to the point how the horse itself was trained, how hussars could attack in a number of formations, how these formations on horses could be spread or unified, If you read these... if you have time, please dig these. And we can discuss it.

  • @iorvethx5758
    @iorvethx5758 Год назад +1

    I'm Polish and I found this random "Kurwa" on de sign in 5:22 very funny 😅

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Год назад +9

    Speaking of Tsardom of Russia, how did the Tsarist government sponsored the colonization beyond the Ural Mountains? Will there be a video about this?

    • @ontheline3077
      @ontheline3077 Год назад +9

      by allowing private initiative of wealthy merchants, utilizing cossacks and military serfs (boyevye kholopy) , allying with local nobles and tribes , and imposing a taxation of local population. Nothing out of the ordinary, but still interesting. The most fresh source I think would be works of Dmitry Verkhoturov, who is very critical of prevo=ious biased research

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад +3

      @@ontheline3077 And obviously forced deportations from conquered territories which greatly intensified after building railroads and carried well into 20th century... mostly stopped in 1953 after Stalin's death.

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam Год назад +1

      There is a good one from a channel called Pike and Shot IIRC that was about that very same subject, is a couple of years old already but but be good enough although I would love to see that and other related subjects to also covered by SandRhoman.

    • @ontheline3077
      @ontheline3077 Год назад

      @@jackswiatek5221 it was important fir Caucasus, as for Siberia, there were almost no people there, so I can't say we had any major displacement. Unlike Poland with their German population.

    • @jackswiatek5221
      @jackswiatek5221 Год назад

      @@ontheline3077 BTW...My grandfather, who lived in nowadays Belarus, was sent with thousands of others for Siberia in 1939 - only because they were Poles. Later after Soviets were attacked by Germany, due to the Sikorski-Mayski agreement most of the Polish people were allowed to form armies there. One army went through Iran and fought on the ally side, and the second army under Soviet command went from Lenino to Berlin.

  • @marcinmerchel832
    @marcinmerchel832 Год назад

    You pronounce 'Żółkiewski' pretty good😃

  • @vladislavnazarov3378
    @vladislavnazarov3378 Год назад +1

    Shuisky like she and then й like the sound right after ñ, novogorod is novgorod without O and Lavra, not larva. Also it's klUshino, btw Gagarin is from there
    Great video as always!

  • @rodjarrow6575
    @rodjarrow6575 8 месяцев назад +1

    The truth that is missing in this video is: The historical period of the papal policy of the Counter-Reformation in Europe of the 16th and 17th centuries, which obliged the royal power of the Catholic world to fight against all countries with non-Catholic Christian power. I remind you that the royal power of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was Catholic in the highest degree of this sense... (Recalling that St. Bartholomew's Night in Paris (the bloody massacre of Huguenot Christians by the hands of the Catholic authorities of Paris) it was a historical period of the Counter-Reformation) Therefore, the events in the north-east of Europe were not an internecine conflict between the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Russia, but, in fact, it was a continuation of the ancient era of the Northern Catholic Crusades against Orthodox Russia. We are seeing the same thing in our time in relations between Russia and NATO... I remind all those who suffer from historical amnesia, Russia in history has never been the initiator of military clashes with Western Europe, on the contrary, the initiator (provocateur) of the war against Russia has always been Western Europe! In contrast to the propaganda of lies about "insidious and bloodthirsty Russia", which is spread by politicians in Western Europe from ancient times to this day.

  • @beczkabrowca304
    @beczkabrowca304 Год назад +1

    5:26 you can see most famous polish word

  • @user-ev3mv8oq6g
    @user-ev3mv8oq6g 11 месяцев назад

    The lover of False Dmitriy I, named Marina Mnishek, supported False Dmitriy II's claims and became his lover as well. What a devoteded woman. Her faithfulness to the Throne claimiants is undeniable.

  • @RobotsEverywhereVideos
    @RobotsEverywhereVideos 11 месяцев назад

    I'm impressed at the relative lack of Sabaton memes

  • @mesjaszyk
    @mesjaszyk Год назад

    interesting

  • @Arashmickey
    @Arashmickey Год назад +1

    Dimitry II. AKA, Definitely Not a Different Dimity. AKA, The Third and Only Dimitri.

  • @mykelas531
    @mykelas531 13 дней назад +2

    What does "Muscovite Russia" even mean? It was called Tsardom of Russia at the time.

  • @ZS-rw4qq
    @ZS-rw4qq 17 дней назад

    Question for my East Slavic brethren:
    Tsarevo Zaimishche, that's like "Emperor's fair"?

  • @AntipaladinPedigri
    @AntipaladinPedigri 7 месяцев назад

    5:25 lol. There is the Polish for for "fvck" or "fvck yeah!" on the sign

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. Год назад +4

    Another false Dimitri?
    Comrade, we've got false Dimitris for days.

  • @moiseseliasramostorres5062
    @moiseseliasramostorres5062 22 дня назад

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