One thing to also take note off (that a lot of people don't), is that you should set the 2.4GHz to be around 7dB *lower* than that of 5GHz. While not strictly necessary, a lot of client can be rather dumb and stick to 2.4GHz because it's significantly stronger than 5GHz (due to the dampening n such). Setting 2.4GHz to 7dB lower than 5GHz (eg. have 2.4GHz be 14dB and 5GHz on 21dB) makes them around equal strength (and clients should be more inclined to pick the 5GHz). Yes, it doesn't go with the whole "improve wifi range" aspect (since you lower the 2.4GHz band's range) but I'd rather have my clients be more inclined to move to 5GHz than maximize range.
That's good but I personally for homes, prefer to just create separate SSID's for each frequency band. Then choose at the device itself which band to connect. The 7dB thing is more for to encourage band steering but the downside is your now down 7dB on 2.4GHz. That extra 7dB on 2.4GHz can be very useful.
Number one overlooked thing that can easily improve some range is to mount the AP higher! Most attenuation is along the horizontal plane. Mount it higher means less attenuation, even on the same floor. Ideally mount it on the ceiling, or even in the attic if possible. If it's a two story home, have the AP on the second floor, in the center of the home.
I have on WapAC covering the entire house, mounted on the second floor more or less in the middle of the house. Covers three floors and the garden also sufficiently. After moving in I did have to make the effort running a cable to that location but it was worth it. I needed to run some other cables anyway hence the spot was wide open an it was a shame not to put a cable and socket in place. It aren't gigabit speeds, but more then enough for mobile devices including streaming video. The only cheat I had to make was using country 'korea republic' on my 5 GHz wireless because the Mikrotik DFS implementation clearly sucks.
@@feicodeboer Nice! Yes that cable run can be a hassle but once done, can pay off big time! One idea for others is to go buy a 100 ft CAT5E or CAT6A Ethernet cable and temporarily place the AP in potentially good locations and test. Then if/when you find a good spot, then run a permanent cable there for the AP to be there.
Behind a TV,... it is such a great place to hide it from plain sight and also daisy chain ethernet to TV. But I'm having issues, probably will relocate it.
@@user-vy4sf5fl3n 802.11 rkv isn't required for seamless roaming of adjacent layer 2 networks across APs with the same SSID, where the said SSID is tagged to the same layer 2 domains on all APs. I've been doing this for 10+ years.
This is ofc a more relevant comment for the upcoming additional AP video... but sometimes you may just need to run a wired connection past a barirrier and have an AP there. On the farm I ran a cat7 connection into the garage for this reason... even though I already have outdoor APs they just couldn't reliably penetrate with all the material in the garage... so wired connection into the garage and a separate AP... aaaaand done.
2.4ghz only has 3 clear channels (1,6,11) More than 3 devices will overlap channels on 2.4ghz. Cross channel interference. Use 5 ghz or 6 ghz to avoid cross channel interference
Why isn't "New Zealand" available as a country using the reg-info command? In fact under the interface there are 13 countries starting with N but under that command there are only 7.
@@user-vy4sf5fl3n excalty this is best way of using MikroTik as router (not as accesspoint) and then in every company all wifi works good. This is a corpo way, to not use a wifi who is not certyfied, a MikroTik is proof that wifi should be certyfied.
Curios, with the average global internet speed less then 100Mbs and devices sharing it the max Wi-Fi speed is far less. Even if you had 1000Mbs internet you cannot connect many devices to 5G due to physical radius limit, like 20 within 5 meters 😊. So, what is the point of 5G, well apart of profit?
what mean "0" in your command ? the interface number ? I have tried 0 ,1 but nothing.About mikrotik wi-fi , is ok only for a cheap usecase.If you have 30 an more client, and you need for wi-fi roaming ( 802.11 rkv ) or the density of clients is high - mikrotik isn't so good sollution.You need something like Unifi,Aruba and other vendors who have MU-MIMO 2x2 or 4x4.
Hello from Australia! I get a Snyax error for that command. Line 10. It seems to take issue with the first /. Using "Command ?" for help did not provide useful information. RouterOS v6.47.8 on a Hap AC Lite
Dynamic Frequency Selection: However, it is use is broader than the name implies, it is used to avoid colliding with weather radar systems. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_frequency_selection
I love Mikrotik but WiFi is not it's strongest area. Small travel router (ax) has much better range and stability in my appartment (compared to hap ac3). Not sure if it's ax vs ac. Already updated to new wifi driver with beam forming. Range is better not still not enough..
Actually, this video helped me choose a better/more powerful channel for 5G and my hAP ac3 now has better range than a small travel router. Thank you! :)
hAP AC3 has a 3dBi antenna gain for 2.4GHz and 5.5dBi for 5GHz. hAP AX2 has a 4dBI antenna gain for 2.4GHz but 4.5dBi for 5GHz. So the AX2 has better range (in theory) on 2.4GHz but worse on 5GHz. If you want more range, you will need bigger antennas (so would need to upgrade to a hAP AX3 or something). Make sure to check your local laws regarding your max EIRP (combination of TX power, cable loss and antenna gain) before just screwing on a bigger antenna.
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One thing to also take note off (that a lot of people don't), is that you should set the 2.4GHz to be around 7dB *lower* than that of 5GHz.
While not strictly necessary, a lot of client can be rather dumb and stick to 2.4GHz because it's significantly stronger than 5GHz (due to the dampening n such).
Setting 2.4GHz to 7dB lower than 5GHz (eg. have 2.4GHz be 14dB and 5GHz on 21dB) makes them around equal strength (and clients should be more inclined to pick the 5GHz).
Yes, it doesn't go with the whole "improve wifi range" aspect (since you lower the 2.4GHz band's range) but I'd rather have my clients be more inclined to move to 5GHz than maximize range.
That's good but I personally for homes, prefer to just create separate SSID's for each frequency band. Then choose at the device itself which band to connect. The 7dB thing is more for to encourage band steering but the downside is your now down 7dB on 2.4GHz. That extra 7dB on 2.4GHz can be very useful.
Number one overlooked thing that can easily improve some range is to mount the AP higher! Most attenuation is along the horizontal plane. Mount it higher means less attenuation, even on the same floor. Ideally mount it on the ceiling, or even in the attic if possible. If it's a two story home, have the AP on the second floor, in the center of the home.
Should they stand upside down?
I have on WapAC covering the entire house, mounted on the second floor more or less in the middle of the house. Covers three floors and the garden also sufficiently. After moving in I did have to make the effort running a cable to that location but it was worth it. I needed to run some other cables anyway hence the spot was wide open an it was a shame not to put a cable and socket in place. It aren't gigabit speeds, but more then enough for mobile devices including streaming video. The only cheat I had to make was using country 'korea republic' on my 5 GHz wireless because the Mikrotik DFS implementation clearly sucks.
@@feicodeboer Nice! Yes that cable run can be a hassle but once done, can pay off big time! One idea for others is to go buy a 100 ft CAT5E or CAT6A Ethernet cable and temporarily place the AP in potentially good locations and test. Then if/when you find a good spot, then run a permanent cable there for the AP to be there.
We need a new RB5009 router with wifi6/7 and an all-port 2.5Gbe configuration.
Knowing what Mikrotik is, in dreams)
OMG that would be cool, just those 2.5Gbe would be fantastic
Mikrotik is like a devil.. they will give you maybe one 2.5GB port and all wifi or 2.4wifi and all 2.5Gb ports.. never everything in one package
@@ussul6524 yes, you are right
And poe on all ports ;)
So are you saying that leaving my router inside of my metal made server rack isn't a good idea? I don't know how to process this information.
Yes, if you can't see it (Line of sight) the signal will be compromised
I keep mine in my microwave
Behind a TV,... it is such a great place to hide it from plain sight and also daisy chain ethernet to TV. But I'm having issues, probably will relocate it.
The SSID should be the same string on both bands to enable seamless roaming for the clients as you move around the property.
mikrotik not suport roaming , for that you need 802.11 rkv, for AP's and for user's too
@@user-vy4sf5fl3n of course they support 802.r for ac and ax products. It is placed in ft-* section of security config of wifi interface
@@user-vy4sf5fl3n 802.11 rkv isn't required for seamless roaming of adjacent layer 2 networks across APs with the same SSID, where the said SSID is tagged to the same layer 2 domains on all APs.
I've been doing this for 10+ years.
@@user-vy4sf5fl3n That's different, as long as layer 2 adjacency and mobility is done correctly, seamless roaming works on client side.
This is ofc a more relevant comment for the upcoming additional AP video... but sometimes you may just need to run a wired connection past a barirrier and have an AP there. On the farm I ran a cat7 connection into the garage for this reason... even though I already have outdoor APs they just couldn't reliably penetrate with all the material in the garage... so wired connection into the garage and a separate AP... aaaaand done.
Glad to see some attention given to WiFi. Any news about 6Ghz??
2.4ghz only has 3 clear channels (1,6,11) More than 3 devices will overlap channels on 2.4ghz.
Cross channel interference. Use 5 ghz or 6 ghz to avoid cross channel interference
Why isn't "New Zealand" available as a country using the reg-info command? In fact under the interface there are 13 countries starting with N but under that command there are only 7.
why on the screen tx power 8 , not 30
Where's WiFi7 from Mikrotik? :(
Never )
When a WiFi 8 will be standard in Laptop wifi cards - this is a MikroTik wifi way.
Sometime around whenever native Mac and Linux support for WinBox comes
just don't wait wi-fi and don't use wi-fi mikrotik
@@user-vy4sf5fl3n excalty this is best way of using MikroTik as router (not as accesspoint) and then in every company all wifi works good. This is a corpo way, to not use a wifi who is not certyfied, a MikroTik is proof that wifi should be certyfied.
disconnected, connection lost, signal strength -35
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disconnected, connection lost, signal strength -35
disconnected, connection lost, signal strength -35
disconnected, connection lost, signal strength -35
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Is there something like reg-info for the wireless(wlan) interfaces?
Curios, with the average global internet speed less then 100Mbs and devices sharing it the max Wi-Fi speed is far less. Even if you had 1000Mbs internet you cannot connect many devices to 5G due to physical radius limit, like 20 within 5 meters 😊. So, what is the point of 5G, well apart of profit?
all soho wireless router mikrotik most use antenna gain under 5dBi. mikrotik should, make minimal for ideal antenna gain 5dBi.
what mean "0" in your command ? the interface number ? I have tried 0 ,1 but nothing.About mikrotik wi-fi , is ok only for a cheap usecase.If you have 30 an more client, and you need for wi-fi roaming ( 802.11 rkv ) or the density of clients is high - mikrotik isn't so good sollution.You need something like Unifi,Aruba and other vendors who have MU-MIMO 2x2 or 4x4.
Roaming is supported as well as many clients. If you need help with optimizing your setup configuration, we have a helpful forum
reg-info country, why is there no Vietnam ???
Hello from Australia! I get a Snyax error for that command. Line 10. It seems to take issue with the first /.
Using "Command ?" for help did not provide useful information.
RouterOS v6.47.8 on a Hap AC Lite
He's using RouterOS v7. The commands are not directly compatible with v6
@@daraghnLol, my router os 7.8, i also get syntax error
@@daraghn TY
I don't know if AX3 has a front-end-module or not, but this is seriously bad wifi performance.
That command does not seem to work on router OS 6.
Same. I got a syntax error with the first / in the sequence
v6.47.8
Both of you update to 7.13 or higher
@@katsurokurosaki7230 TY
Q: 2:53 What does mean "dfs" in the "5490-5730/30/dfs"?
Google "WiFi DFS" :) enjoy
Dynamic Frequency Selection: However, it is use is broader than the name implies, it is used to avoid colliding with weather radar systems. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_frequency_selection
I love Mikrotik but WiFi is not it's strongest area. Small travel router (ax) has much better range and stability in my appartment (compared to hap ac3). Not sure if it's ax vs ac. Already updated to new wifi driver with beam forming. Range is better not still not enough..
Actually, this video helped me choose a better/more powerful channel for 5G and my hAP ac3 now has better range than a small travel router. Thank you! :)
hAP AC3 has a 3dBi antenna gain for 2.4GHz and 5.5dBi for 5GHz.
hAP AX2 has a 4dBI antenna gain for 2.4GHz but 4.5dBi for 5GHz.
So the AX2 has better range (in theory) on 2.4GHz but worse on 5GHz.
If you want more range, you will need bigger antennas (so would need to upgrade to a hAP AX3 or something).
Make sure to check your local laws regarding your max EIRP (combination of TX power, cable loss and antenna gain) before just screwing on a bigger antenna.